Latest / Millennial Mustard Seed / S4 65. Mr. Pete & The Rodman – Bizarre Bible bonus Questions!
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- 0:06Hi. My name is Anita, and I'm coming
- 0:08to you from Idaho and you're listening to the millennial
- 0:11mustardseed. All right, so you live in
- 0:16Rolling, we got Rod Smith here from Millennial Mustard Seed.
- 0:22Yeah, Pete from the days of Noah podcast, we're just hanging out
- 0:26in the online, recording studio world and it's cool.
- 0:30Cool, it is cool. So what is the weirdest Bible
- 0:34verse for you to deal with? What is linghu?
- 0:37One verse that your old was like, what do I do with this?
- 0:41Well, there's probably a few, I would say the ones where if you
- 0:45take them at face value, you become like a Word of Faith
- 0:50person. You know, you look at that and
- 0:53you go, hey anything you ask, you know, or I was going through
- 0:58James. Over and over with a friend.
- 1:02And we were just reading it, like, repeatedly over a week or
- 1:07two. And there's you know if anyone
- 1:10is sick anoint call the Elders, anoint them with oil and the
- 1:16prayer of faith will save them. It's doesn't say may save them
- 1:20or could save them. And like what is that mean?
- 1:25Talking about salvation is talking about healing.
- 1:28So some of those where it's like, you almost wish Jesus
- 1:33would have had a little disclaimer because there's times
- 1:37where it was Right? Yeah, there's times where James
- 1:39will have a disclaimer. He'll be like you know, when
- 1:43he's talking about works and Faith, like he'll kind of
- 1:45explain it and you go, oh, that's what he means.
- 1:48Then, there's other times where like, Jesus will be hogging.
- 1:50Like, if you ask anything in my name, like okay, you know, James
- 1:56gives the disclaimer you, you don't receive because you, you
- 2:00want to spend it on your, on your desires, you know, hmm.
- 2:04Yes, like that. Where it's like, I wish they
- 2:07didn't say it like that. You know, that something will
- 2:10happen. Because I And why people take
- 2:13that and run with it? Wow.
- 2:17Yeah, I love when there's verses that were just wrestling into
- 2:22like, what is going on here, because it really keeps the fire
- 2:25lit in us to just keep digging the gems out of God's word.
- 2:29That's what keeps us. Interested the mystery.
- 2:30There's some mystery to it. So that's awesome, man.
- 2:33Yep, yeah, super cool. Well, it's his glory to conceal
- 2:37a matter and we're supposed to seek it out.
- 2:39Right. So that's a good one.
- 2:41That's a good one. Well, maybe I'll ask the reverse
- 2:44for you because I don't want to. I don't think I can top.
- 2:47Up that question off the top of my head.
- 2:48So, Okay, well, this changes for me.
- 2:53So yeah, this is like, what's the weirdest one right now?
- 2:57But really happened. I've been stuck on when the
- 3:01Apostle Paul says, I wish, the Saints knew the lank, the depth,
- 3:05the breadth, and the height. And I've asked a few different
- 3:08people and I don't ask like, as in, I'm sold on exactly what
- 3:12your input is. I ask because I'm really
- 3:14genuinely curious about the perspectives of what each person
- 3:18is thinks about that. Because there's, there's a
- 3:20spectrum, there's a Broadband of different, you know, insights to
- 3:25what I've heard people say. But I keep kind of getting
- 3:29tugged that it is so much deeper, more beautiful and
- 3:34stranger than everybody, I would like to kind of admit it this
- 3:41point. Yeah.
- 3:42And that's kind of the verse right now that I just it just
- 3:44keeps hitting me back. The bag was like every other
- 3:46day, or I'm thinking about I'm like what is going on here?
- 3:51It's not as cute and innocent as it seems like, oh, I wish they'd
- 3:55under now, it's the Saints, specifically, interesting and
- 4:01the length, the depth and the breadth and the height.
- 4:03Now, I know that there was an artist Geez, what was the name?
- 4:07Was it Salvador Dali? As I hope I'm not getting the
- 4:11name wrong. Sounds like an artist.
- 4:12I think so. Need a four-dimensional
- 4:14depiction of Christ on the cross.
- 4:16So if I have that right, you can you can look it up, I think I
- 4:21forget the name for it. But anyway, it's a famous
- 4:23painting and it's a four-dimensional depiction of
- 4:25Christ on the cross like talking about he like when he raised up
- 4:31like Not only was he dethroning these lowercase G gods that all
- 4:34have chips on their shoulders and they're trying to to kick
- 4:36and scream as they're getting pretty much zip-tied and thrown
- 4:40in the hole but help so much more than that.
- 4:42Like like a level restoration that we as a church at least,
- 4:46don't we don't sit around like to ponder on that stuff.
- 4:50So that's kind of my verse right now where it's just like there's
- 4:53so much more here and you think it's a level of friendship that
- 4:58Paul had with the Lord that he wished others to have.
- 5:03Well yeah I mean that's a Inside because another verse that
- 5:08strange for me, is Paul says, I was in the spirit on the day of
- 5:13the Lord, and he's dealing with massive Revelation and insights
- 5:17stuff that like, the guy next door would be like, Zip him up
- 5:20in a, you know, one of those whites had it, right?
- 5:23And put it in the powder room, but, yeah, Paul who's fearing
- 5:27God giving up his life walking in Holiness.
- 5:30Fulfilling the calling running the race of Faith.
- 5:33There, he says, once again, I I was in the spirit on the day of
- 5:38the Lord. So he's accessing a world is
- 5:40kind of like Chronicles of Narnia.
- 5:42Right? Is like he had his little
- 5:44wardrobe. He had his key and he's yeah,
- 5:47it's cool. It's cool Rod.
- 5:48So you got me going here. So Have you listened to have you
- 5:52listen to our episodes with Tim Ben's, you know what?
- 5:56I got halfway through one of them.
- 5:58I got halfway through one of them and I you know, hearing him
- 6:02talk. I already told you.
- 6:03I think last time we were on the phone, the other week, he real
- 6:06I'm very interested in a lotting.
- 6:08Some time to listen to him speak more because he has just some
- 6:12wisdom and compassion in the way he was laying out.
- 6:14At least what I heard, I don't have enough to, like, remember
- 6:17his bullet points and his style. But I know that I was agreeing
- 6:21in a very deep spiritual place inside of myself with what I
- 6:24heard. Yeah.
- 6:25Like I'm like, okay, this is deep.
- 6:27I need a rainy weekend to just spins.
- 6:30Oh man, the one that I think I titled A titled.
- 6:34It the spiritual realm. So we split them up.
- 6:36Because because he can talk. So, so we get almost two hours
- 6:40in a sitting. I'm like, I'm turning this into
- 6:42two episodes or at least I did it for the last time we talked.
- 6:45It's a good idea, first one, I think I put, yeah, I know it's
- 6:48like, hey, Luke. We get the weekend off next
- 6:50week, right? Got two episodes in the bank,
- 6:54but he's talking about the spiritual realm and it's, it's
- 6:57wild. I mean, it's easy to get maybe
- 7:00jealous and say, well, I've been praying for experiences like
- 7:03that, why doesn't God give me that?
- 7:05But, you know, he gives us Differently and he's talking
- 7:08about like visually seeing Jesus since he was two years old and
- 7:13it's just this crazy unique relationship and going into the
- 7:16spirit realm and sitting with Jesus and strategizing about
- 7:21things on earth and it's like, wow.
- 7:24And but there are glimpses of that in the Bible, right?
- 7:27Like even Paul says, I know, a man, well, to the body or in the
- 7:31body, I don't know, right? Well, I'm wondering if Paul had
- 7:36Something like that and maybe he's saying.
- 7:38I wish everyone could know because Tim talked quite a bit
- 7:43about the friendship that he had has with God and how he had to.
- 7:50He was challenged by God to lay things down that he hadn't even
- 7:56done yet. He basically said, look, I'll
- 7:59take you and show you places in you that given the opportunity
- 8:04you would, you know, be at fault.
- 8:07And he said, that's what David was doing when he said search me
- 8:10and know me and well, yeah, it's it's defense team.
- 8:16So in my in my my prayer list that I have going, you know, for
- 8:22things that I wish were different things.
- 8:24I'm hoping for all of that stuff, I have a list going and
- 8:28in one of them, I put, I want to have one tenth of the
- 8:31Friendship, Tim has with God because it's just off the chart.
- 8:36That guy. Well you know as you were
- 8:38talking I'm thinking of the Mount of transfiguration like
- 8:42the disciples who walk with him, they see the Messiah do these
- 8:46Miracles, right? And they never worship him until
- 8:49after the resurrection like those three dead on
- 8:52Transfiguration, because immediately, what happens?
- 8:54We're going to build three, stat, Alters, or whatever, for
- 8:57you guys, what? They're losing the farm.
- 9:00Yeah. But, other than that, they're
- 9:01walking along with him kicking Stones Jesus.
- 9:02Why we going this way? That's where the Sumerians are
- 9:05at their always questioning. And right now you know they're
- 9:08complaining they're fighting. No, we want to set it aside in
- 9:10the Kingdom, can my son sit next to you and not right.
- 9:13And you see all this, like, Earthly stuff, but Jesus also
- 9:16says he's like, listen and think this is Jesus.
- 9:19I hope I'm not wrong and maybe one of the Apostles, I'm pretty
- 9:22sure it's the Christ but he says, if I can't explain to you
- 9:25and you don't believe me on the Earthly things.
- 9:27How can I depict you that which is of the Heavenly realm.
- 9:31Hmm. So one at one of them says that
- 9:34I know it's in there, I just have trouble over men.
- 9:36Remembering like verse and I know I was just going to say,
- 9:39we're spoiled with Google, we don't have to remember versus we
- 9:42just we just remember one word and we look it up and yeah boom.
- 9:46Yeah. And then you then you're you're
- 9:47you're a scholar. John 14, 18 I have three
- 9:52translations. Pulled up here side by side and
- 9:55is like years ago. You had to put her in that work,
- 9:57man. You had the yeah you yeah
- 10:01different times we live in now for sure Italy.
- 10:04Hey P. It was really cool just to take
- 10:06Like this little moment here to share a conversation really.
- 10:10I mean this is what conversations can look like,
- 10:12just over the phone, not being recorded and we challenged the
- 10:15listeners like call your buddy who's interested in the Bible
- 10:18and you guys start a conversation.
- 10:20Ask each other. What me and peaches as each
- 10:22other literally serendipitous we just are winging this little
- 10:26episode here and I think that makes sense to share it with you
- 10:29guys and encourage you guys to do the same thing.
- 10:32Pete last words and write on. That was great.
- 10:36Eight just off the cuff. I love it.
- 10:39Well, that's it for this little mini micro episode.
- 10:42Don't forget to show Pete and his brother.
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- 10:54That's how we reach more people like us and we will catch you on
- 10:59the next one. Goodbye.