Latest / The Folkestone & Hythe Sports Podcast / LEIGH FITCHIE,WILLIAM,PIPPA AND KATE FROM FOLKESTONE RUGBY CLUB TALK JUNIOR RUGBY.
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- 0:11Speaker 1: This is Kevin's Sports Very Daily, standing in for Ady
- 0:14Speaker 1: Dowks on the Saturday Sports Show.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Adie can't make it.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Today as he had a pleasant surprise last night when
- 0:20Speaker 1: some of his family suddenly descended upon him from far away,
- 0:24Speaker 1: so of course he wants to spend some time with them,
- 0:26Speaker 1: but I'm sure he'll be back next week. Meanwhile, we
- 0:35Speaker 1: have a busy show today as we welcome director of
- 0:38Speaker 1: Junior Rugby Lee Fichy.
- 0:40Speaker 2: And two of his undernines.
- 0:41Speaker 1: We've got William, we've got Pippa from the Folkston Rugby
- 0:44Speaker 1: Club and we've re chanted them very shortly.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Meanwhile, you may.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Have heard, you may have heard you veteran rockers. That
- 1:07Speaker 1: is that the Hollies have decided to call it a
- 1:10Speaker 1: day after would you believe it's sixty years of recording
- 1:14Speaker 1: and touring, So what better way to start the show
- 1:18Speaker 1: by playing this track?
- 1:20Speaker 2: Sit back and enjoy look through any Window by the
- 1:23Speaker 2: Hollies and the you go, that's the Hollies.
- 1:31Speaker 1: There from nineteen sixty five, and we played that one
- 1:35Speaker 1: because they've been touring for sixty years and they decided
- 1:40Speaker 1: to call it a day.
- 1:41Speaker 2: So anyway, we are joined.
- 1:43Speaker 1: In the studio now by lots of people from the
- 1:46Speaker 1: folks in rugby club, and so we're want to get
- 1:49Speaker 1: around and say hello to all of them. So let's
- 1:51Speaker 1: start with so the boss Lee, Good morning.
- 1:54Speaker 2: LEEO morning care are you yeah? Good? You go right,
- 1:57Speaker 2: you're right, very good, Thank you.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Okay, you've rounded up the troops this morning. Yeah, thanks
- 2:01Speaker 1: for coming in. Before we go any further, let's just
- 2:04Speaker 1: tell our listeners and what is your role at the club.
- 2:07Speaker 3: The role at the club of Junior Director of Rugby
- 2:09Speaker 3: is effectively the head of rugby, so sort of anything
- 2:12Speaker 3: that happens on the grass, player development, coach, and how
- 2:15Speaker 3: we play throughout the whole club from under fives up.
- 2:18Speaker 3: So the junior eighteens coordinate coaches which include seniors, but
- 2:23Speaker 3: my main roles is obviously all junior rugby before they
- 2:26Speaker 3: go into senior.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Right, okay, so we want to say hello to our guests.
- 2:31Speaker 1: Now we're going to start with ladies. First, Hello, Pipper,
- 2:34Speaker 1: how are you very good? Good, excellent? So and how
- 2:37Speaker 1: old are you, Pipper?
- 2:38Speaker 4: I'm eight years old.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Eight years old. And what school would you go to?
- 2:42Speaker 4: Saltwood School?
- 2:43Speaker 2: What school Saltwood?
- 2:45Speaker 4: Oh?
- 2:45Speaker 1: I know, yeah, Sort's school. And thanks for coming in. Now,
- 2:49Speaker 1: are there many girls at your age play rugby in
- 2:53Speaker 1: your team? Because it can be mixed. But is there
- 2:56Speaker 1: lots of girls.
- 2:57Speaker 5: To play rugby?
- 2:58Speaker 4: Quite a lot?
- 2:59Speaker 2: Yeah? Good? Good? And do you play against the boys?
- 3:03Speaker 4: Yes?
- 3:03Speaker 2: You do? I bet you beat them, don't you?
- 3:05Speaker 4: Yes?
- 3:05Speaker 2: All the time?
- 3:06Speaker 4: Yes?
- 3:07Speaker 2: Good?
- 3:07Speaker 1: Right, okay, so let's turn our attention to Will. Good morning, Will.
- 3:10Speaker 2: How are you good? Yeah, you're good. Good. So I
- 3:14Speaker 2: mean how old are you? Will?
- 3:15Speaker 4: Am I eight?
- 3:16Speaker 2: Are you right? And now do you.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Do you play and train with the girls or do
- 3:24Speaker 1: the boys train on their own?
- 3:26Speaker 4: The boys train a bit of both both?
- 3:31Speaker 2: Yeah, okay? Yeah, so is it I mean, are you
- 3:35Speaker 2: faster than the girls? Do you think?
- 3:37Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 3:37Speaker 1: Yeah, Well it's good to say there's lots of healthy competition.
- 3:43Speaker 2: I mean, what school do you go to, Will, I'll.
- 3:45Speaker 4: Go to a limb primary.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Do you Yeah? And I've seen you at the park run.
- 3:49Speaker 2: You've been up the park run lately?
- 3:51Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 3:52Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. It's a bit of a job getting out
- 3:54Speaker 2: of bed, is it.
- 3:55Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 3:56Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you're going to be there tomorrow if
- 3:59Speaker 1: your dad wakes you up. Yeah, yeah, that's not in
- 4:02Speaker 1: the background. Yes, you're going to be there. Okay, I
- 4:04Speaker 1: guess good right, Well, I mean it's good to get
- 4:07Speaker 1: you you guys speaking, so that you know, we kind
- 4:11Speaker 1: of just get the butterflies out the way, if you like.
- 4:16Speaker 1: So we've got some great music as well. So what
- 4:18Speaker 1: we're going to do now, we're going to play another
- 4:20Speaker 1: song and then we're going to come back to these
- 4:21Speaker 1: people because we've got loads to get through, and I
- 4:24Speaker 1: just wanted to get them on the microphone and get comfortable.
- 4:28Speaker 1: So this one is from nineteen eighty four, and do
- 4:30Speaker 1: you know what. I saw this one on the playlist
- 4:32Speaker 1: and I thought, I haven't heard this four years. So
- 4:35Speaker 1: I sit back and listen to Howard Jones like to
- 4:37Speaker 1: get to know you? Well, Well, there was Celine Dee
- 5:24Speaker 1: on there, and I made a schoolboy era. I meant
- 5:26Speaker 1: to have a gap in between Howard Jones and Celine
- 5:28Speaker 1: Dion because what I wanted to say was that Celine
- 5:32Speaker 1: Dion she's returning to the stage after a four year
- 5:35Speaker 1: absence due to illness. And anybody that listens to my
- 5:39Speaker 1: thirsty show knows that one thing I do like is
- 5:42Speaker 1: female strong vocalists, and I'm often playing Celine Dion's songs.
- 5:47Speaker 2: So it's good to see her back touring again.
- 5:50Speaker 1: Right, So we are now back chatting and I want
- 5:53Speaker 1: to bring in Lee now.
- 5:54Speaker 2: So Lee, now you've got a tough job there.
- 5:57Speaker 1: And I've got in front of me all the list
- 5:59Speaker 1: of for youngsters that you train right from under fives
- 6:04Speaker 1: almost to under twelves, under eighteens.
- 6:08Speaker 2: So what do you do with under fives? What do
- 6:11Speaker 2: you do with them?
- 6:12Speaker 3: Just make them have fun? Yep, that should be the
- 6:15Speaker 3: core for any age group.
- 6:16Speaker 5: But the number one thing is when.
- 6:17Speaker 3: We started Rutgers, unfortunately the clubs that the memberships free
- 6:21Speaker 3: is we just want kids active, having fun and obviously
- 6:25Speaker 3: rugby brings that element more than any other sport into
- 6:29Speaker 3: individual and becoming a team, making friends. But the course
- 6:33Speaker 3: just get up on a Sunday and have it, just
- 6:35Speaker 3: run around and be is fun. So then they just
- 6:37Speaker 3: use rugby out of all the other sports, so there
- 6:39Speaker 3: is there is a side product at the end of it,
- 6:41Speaker 3: but have fun.
- 6:42Speaker 1: So after that, I've got here, you've got tag rugby.
- 6:45Speaker 1: It's under fives to under eights.
- 6:47Speaker 3: What happens then, well, tag rugby is obviously I imagine with
- 6:50Speaker 3: most the majority of people they see rugby on TV,
- 6:52Speaker 3: they see contact tackling. Obviously before that it is tag rugby,
- 6:57Speaker 3: so there's no contact involved at all. And they were
- 7:00Speaker 3: a veltrow belt around their tummy and there's two tag
- 7:03Speaker 3: belts that hang off as if there's a left leg
- 7:05Speaker 3: and a right leg, and that is instead of actually
- 7:07Speaker 3: making contact, it's non contact fun it simulates a tackle.
- 7:11Speaker 5: So I tagged. They have to stop.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Because I've got that highlighted here tag belt. So describe
- 7:17Speaker 1: again what a tag belt is.
- 7:18Speaker 5: Yeah, imagine a belt goes around your waist.
- 7:20Speaker 3: Yes, but it's just velcrow and then there's two veltrow
- 7:23Speaker 3: belts tags that just go either side of the belt.
- 7:25Speaker 5: And they hang as if it's their left leg and
- 7:27Speaker 5: right leg.
- 7:28Speaker 2: So the aim is to just touch them or grab them.
- 7:30Speaker 3: You just grab the tag and you grab the tag
- 7:32Speaker 3: and if they hold it up, they've got to tag
- 7:33Speaker 3: in their hands. That acts like a tackle and that
- 7:36Speaker 3: and obviously then they have to pass the ball. That's
- 7:38Speaker 3: non contact for the first four years. But obviously you
- 7:42Speaker 3: can have tags all the way up to adults, and
- 7:44Speaker 3: especially the ground being hard recently, it's a very good
- 7:46Speaker 3: option to add in. Yeah, instead of tackling, right.
- 7:49Speaker 1: Yeah, Well we'll come on to the grounds later. But
- 7:52Speaker 1: it's a very important point actually, And so next up,
- 7:55Speaker 1: I've got tackling starts. You've got that undernines. So the
- 8:02Speaker 1: tag belts go out the window.
- 8:03Speaker 3: And not not entirely that you can use them now
- 8:06Speaker 3: and again, but when you've been doing tag rugby for
- 8:10Speaker 3: four years, like Pepper and William here the last six
- 8:12Speaker 3: months they have been itching to tackle, they're waiting to
- 8:16Speaker 3: make contacts. So yeah, not out the window entirely. They
- 8:20Speaker 3: have their place, but obviously now these guys that they're doing,
- 8:24Speaker 3: aren't they.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Yeah, So in you come. So did you used to
- 8:30Speaker 2: play tag rugby?
- 8:32Speaker 4: Yes? I did?
- 8:33Speaker 1: And was it difficult? You know, just when you started tackling?
- 8:37Speaker 1: Tell me about what that was like. It was a
- 8:39Speaker 1: change for you. Tell me about that.
- 8:41Speaker 4: Well, it was quite a big change, was.
- 8:45Speaker 2: It was it? I mean, was it painful? You know
- 8:49Speaker 2: if you're tackling some and you're falling over? No, you
- 8:53Speaker 2: bounced up again to that's good.
- 8:55Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 8:56Speaker 1: What about you, William? What was it when you started
- 8:58Speaker 1: actually tackling? Did you find it's tough for as you're
- 9:01Speaker 1: really looking forward to it.
- 9:02Speaker 4: I was looking forward to it. Yeah, and I met
- 9:06Speaker 4: new friends yes, yeah, and I miss rugby when we've
- 9:13Speaker 4: done truth e'sing me miss a bit.
- 9:16Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, well that's good. Yeah.
- 9:18Speaker 1: So you've got lots, you've got lots to learn yet,
- 9:20Speaker 1: so you're slowly going through the stages Lee, That's right,
- 9:23Speaker 1: isn't it so slowly bringing them you know from if
- 9:26Speaker 1: you like little ruggers moving up the age age groups,
- 9:29Speaker 1: then I've got down here a mini rugby under fives
- 9:32Speaker 1: too eleven's what exactly is that?
- 9:34Speaker 3: Is there any difference or it's just yeah, it's broken
- 9:36Speaker 3: down to effectively under fives? Under six is that's sort
- 9:40Speaker 3: of pre club rugby. We introduced it to obviously bring
- 9:43Speaker 3: more peak kids into it. Under sevens to under eleven's
- 9:47Speaker 3: it's non competitive. They still have festivals, they still have matches,
- 9:50Speaker 3: but there's no actual official leagues or tables, right, and
- 9:53Speaker 3: then that's minis. But when you go into under twelves,
- 9:56Speaker 3: that's official junior rugby. That's when league competitive rugby starts.
- 10:00Speaker 3: There's promotions and delegations and they actually play matches.
- 10:03Speaker 1: So you're so competitive earlier on. Is there no like
- 10:08Speaker 1: tries to score or anything.
- 10:10Speaker 3: Yeah, there's tries, but there's no sort of official winner recording.
- 10:13Speaker 2: No.
- 10:13Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no league tables to say who's top, who's
- 10:16Speaker 3: that you're going around? We go to Dover and Canterbury
- 10:19Speaker 3: and obviously the guy has gone to Saracen's festivals, et cetera.
- 10:22Speaker 5: So although they're always asking did we win? Did we lose?
- 10:26Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah we do, obviously we do.
- 10:28Speaker 5: We do keep scores, but there's no official tables.
- 10:31Speaker 3: But when you get to under twelves up, that's when
- 10:34Speaker 3: official tables and results come in. So that's the difference
- 10:37Speaker 3: between minis and juniors. Minis is uncompetitive, although it is.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they want to know if they won
- 10:44Speaker 2: or not, don't.
- 10:44Speaker 5: Yes, every single game. Yeah, they always ask how we
- 10:48Speaker 5: got on?
- 10:49Speaker 1: Okay, so next up, I've got juniors under twelves to
- 10:51Speaker 1: under eighteen. So that's when it starts getting to are
- 10:54Speaker 1: they playing the proper rules at this stage?
- 10:57Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 10:57Speaker 3: Effectively every sink from under seven's up to under fourteens,
- 11:01Speaker 3: the game gets, the pitches get a little bit bigger.
- 11:04Speaker 5: They introduced an extra.
- 11:05Speaker 3: Number so like six side, seven side eight a side,
- 11:07Speaker 3: there's an extra rule to scrums line outs to introduced
- 11:10Speaker 3: year on year. When they get to under fourteens, that's
- 11:14Speaker 3: when they're actually on the full size pitch, right, and
- 11:16Speaker 3: under fifteen's officially there's lineouts, there's scrums and everything is
- 11:21Speaker 3: pretty much the full size game as if you see
- 11:23Speaker 3: on TV.
- 11:24Speaker 5: That's when it officially starts.
- 11:25Speaker 4: Right.
- 11:26Speaker 1: So then we got the final category, which is a
- 11:29Speaker 1: senior rugby eighteen and upwards, right up to the vets
- 11:32Speaker 1: that play. So at one point, actually I must tell
- 11:37Speaker 1: you this, Lee, I was looking this morning on the
- 11:39Speaker 1: YouTube channel and I come across their interview of ten
- 11:42Speaker 1: years ago, and what struck me was that people like
- 11:46Speaker 1: yourself and Martin Murray who came in, they started under
- 11:50Speaker 1: fives or under sixes and they went right through the
- 11:53Speaker 1: rage age range.
- 11:55Speaker 2: Does that still happen.
- 11:56Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely.
- 11:57Speaker 3: Glassroots rugby could not survive with out the juniors going
- 12:01Speaker 3: into seniors. That's what it's really important. They call it
- 12:04Speaker 3: pathways to ensure that pay. They don't just stop once
- 12:08Speaker 3: they finished playing under eighteen's, they continue into senior rugby.
- 12:12Speaker 3: And that's the lifeboo of where senior rugby exists, especially
- 12:15Speaker 3: at Grassroot when there's no money involved and they're paying
- 12:17Speaker 3: to play rather than being paid to play at grassroots rugby.
- 12:21Speaker 3: The only survival of the senior section is the juniors
- 12:24Speaker 3: going up into the seniors.
- 12:26Speaker 1: Do you know what when I used to work for
- 12:28Speaker 1: your excuse me, I worked with a chap that played
- 12:31Speaker 1: for a Betsanger and he was telling me that the
- 12:36Speaker 1: team sheet went up one day and I don't know
- 12:39Speaker 1: how many, but there was like eighty percent of the
- 12:43Speaker 1: names their dads had all played in the first team.
- 12:47Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 12:47Speaker 3: Yeah, you get a lot of You see a lot,
- 12:49Speaker 3: especially more now social media, where you see the generation
- 12:52Speaker 3: still playing, where dad plays with some or that the
- 12:55Speaker 3: dad keeps on playing, keeps the body. He knows the
- 12:59Speaker 3: sun's going to come in to see you, so have
- 13:01Speaker 3: that final photo and play with him.
- 13:03Speaker 5: It's nice, you know.
- 13:05Speaker 2: That nearly happened to me. In football.
- 13:06Speaker 1: I played football down at Hive in the reserves till
- 13:09Speaker 1: I was fifty one, and I always wanted to play
- 13:13Speaker 1: in the same proper league side as my son, but
- 13:17Speaker 1: unfortunately it never happened. I mean, he went through under
- 13:19Speaker 1: eighteens in Victor and that, but he was kind of
- 13:22Speaker 1: an invictor and I was higher. I always wanted to
- 13:25Speaker 1: play on a Saturday afternoon at three o'clock you know,
- 13:28Speaker 1: kick off on the same team, but unfortunately it never happened.
- 13:31Speaker 1: But it must be a great feeling for the dads
- 13:32Speaker 1: when they've run out on the pitch for the first
- 13:35Speaker 1: time and their son is playing in the same side.
- 13:37Speaker 3: Oh absolutely yeah, I've watunate to coach some dad some
- 13:40Speaker 3: partners as they're coming through. I'm not sure my body
- 13:44Speaker 3: will be in any sort of condition when winning more
- 13:46Speaker 3: get there, but who knows. Who knows, I'll keep it
- 13:49Speaker 3: ticking over just on the off chance.
- 13:51Speaker 1: Right, Okay, so we're going to play some music now,
- 13:53Speaker 1: but when we come back, we're going to have a
- 13:54Speaker 1: chat with Pippa and William because I want to know
- 13:58Speaker 1: all about the Saracens and the who you went on
- 14:01Speaker 1: and you did a roll of honor, I do understand,
- 14:04Speaker 1: or a guard of honor, so I wanted you to
- 14:06Speaker 1: tell me all about that afterwards.
- 14:08Speaker 2: Right.
- 14:09Speaker 1: So this song, now, this one is always related to
- 14:12Speaker 1: a dirty dancing and I'll picked this one out because
- 14:17Speaker 1: this man is singing this song. Patrick Swayse would have
- 14:19Speaker 1: been seventy four last week. Now, sadly he died at
- 14:22Speaker 1: the young age of fifty seven, So sit back and enjoy.
- 14:26Speaker 1: Patrick Swaysey, She's like the wind.
- 14:34Speaker 4: She's gone the wind.
- 14:38Speaker 6: Too, madream.
- 14:42Speaker 5: She runs a night.
- 14:45Speaker 2: Next to me.
- 14:58Speaker 1: Patrick Swayse like the Wind from Dirty Dancing. And I
- 15:02Speaker 1: saw that up at London somewhere, you know, I mean
- 15:06Speaker 1: when it hit the West End stage.
- 15:07Speaker 2: It was massive, wasn't it.
- 15:09Speaker 1: And we went up on a coach tour from Euryton,
- 15:13Speaker 1: who I was working with, and most of the ladies,
- 15:17Speaker 1: the female section came home with a T shirt. Let
- 15:20Speaker 1: me think it said nobody puts baby in the corner.
- 15:23Speaker 2: I think that's what it was, right. So we're getting
- 15:25Speaker 2: back to it. O hear.
- 15:26Speaker 1: This is Kevin Sports very daily on radio Folks and
- 15:29Speaker 1: I am joined by Leifchi from the Folks in Rugby
- 15:32Speaker 1: Club and two under Nines and we're going to talk
- 15:34Speaker 1: to Pipper now.
- 15:36Speaker 2: Now, Pipper, come right into that microphone. Now.
- 15:39Speaker 1: We were talking just now about a tournament that you
- 15:42Speaker 1: went to. I put Saracen's Now tell me about that,
- 15:47Speaker 1: tell me all about it.
- 15:48Speaker 4: It was just really really fun.
- 15:53Speaker 2: Yeah. And did you did you play rugby at the
- 15:57Speaker 2: Big Stadium?
- 15:58Speaker 4: Yes, we played on the pictures. Did the Saracens.
- 16:03Speaker 2: People play on Okay?
- 16:05Speaker 1: And I understand you played before the game before the
- 16:09Speaker 1: main game, is that right?
- 16:10Speaker 4: Yes?
- 16:11Speaker 2: And how many games did you play? Can you remember.
- 16:16Speaker 4: Five?
- 16:17Speaker 2: Five games? Five or six games? Wow? And did you
- 16:21Speaker 2: score any tries?
- 16:22Speaker 4: Yes?
- 16:23Speaker 2: You did? Oh brilliant? How many did you score?
- 16:26Speaker 4: A couple?
- 16:27Speaker 2: Couple?
- 16:28Speaker 4: The way how he scored tries was because the girls
- 16:31Speaker 4: team was kind of working on passing quite a long time.
- 16:35Speaker 1: So okay, So that so you you was obviously practicing
- 16:39Speaker 1: a training for this. So it all paid off, all
- 16:42Speaker 1: that hard work paid off?
- 16:44Speaker 4: It?
- 16:44Speaker 2: Did it did?
- 16:45Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 16:45Speaker 2: Good?
- 16:46Speaker 1: And I mean were you were you totally a girl's
- 16:50Speaker 1: team when you was playing team?
- 16:52Speaker 2: Just the girls? And were there any other girls teams
- 16:55Speaker 2: up there? No? So you played against the boys, yes?
- 16:59Speaker 2: And you beat the boys? Yes? Wow?
- 17:01Speaker 1: I bet I bet your mum was pleased about that. Yes, right, okay,
- 17:05Speaker 1: so let's have a chat with you will. So what
- 17:08Speaker 1: was your day at the Sarah's is?
- 17:09Speaker 5: Like?
- 17:09Speaker 2: How many games did you play?
- 17:12Speaker 4: We did five games as well?
- 17:16Speaker 2: Was it five or six years? So it was a
- 17:19Speaker 2: long day for you. Did you Are you a try scorer?
- 17:23Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a try scorer? What the boys do? You
- 17:28Speaker 4: just run forwards and past?
- 17:31Speaker 2: You run as fast as you can yeah runs.
- 17:34Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 17:36Speaker 2: And did you play against any girls teams? No?
- 17:41Speaker 1: Because if from what I think your dad told me
- 17:44Speaker 1: that they were the only girls team up.
- 17:46Speaker 2: There, is that right?
- 17:48Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah?
- 17:49Speaker 1: Okay, So when you played against these other boys, was
- 17:53Speaker 1: it was it tough for they? You know, because you've
- 17:55Speaker 1: only been playing probably against boys that you know down
- 17:59Speaker 1: here all of us. You playing against strangers that you've
- 18:02Speaker 1: never seen before.
- 18:03Speaker 2: What was that like?
- 18:05Speaker 4: Some was a bit rough and not and the coach
- 18:12Speaker 4: was a bit bad, But most of them were quite
- 18:15Speaker 4: easy because Arthur Arland's the one who all so he
- 18:23Speaker 4: can pass long distance, so he can he's quite big,
- 18:30Speaker 4: so he can reach further to pass quicker.
- 18:35Speaker 2: And did you did you find that some of the
- 18:38Speaker 2: team they were really fast as well?
- 18:41Speaker 4: All? Yeah, one of them were really rough because the
- 18:47Speaker 4: coach wouldn't allow that. It was a turnover because they won.
- 18:55Speaker 4: When I tagged him, he put his hand on my Yeah,
- 19:01Speaker 4: push me away, and I said, I said nothing. I
- 19:06Speaker 4: just kept carrying.
- 19:07Speaker 2: Good, that's it. That's the discipline.
- 19:09Speaker 4: The end the whole thing. I scored at least twenty tries,
- 19:16Speaker 4: did they.
- 19:16Speaker 2: Yeah, through for the whole thing? Yeah? Yeah, great, And
- 19:20Speaker 2: that's brilliant.
- 19:21Speaker 1: So it's a good thing that. I mean, that's what
- 19:23Speaker 1: rugby is all about. I know your dad's a coach,
- 19:25Speaker 1: but the rugby is teaching you discipline, isn't it. You've
- 19:29Speaker 1: done very well not to smack him on the nose, really,
- 19:32Speaker 1: didn't you.
- 19:34Speaker 4: Yes. So in the end, the goal scored seven or
- 19:39Speaker 4: eight goals to win the cart and I got to
- 19:47Speaker 4: hold it and bring it with my friends and my
- 19:51Speaker 4: friends we got to do this celebration.
- 19:54Speaker 2: Great stuff.
- 19:55Speaker 1: Right now, coming back to you, Piper. You now, so
- 20:01Speaker 1: you stayed to watch the big game?
- 20:03Speaker 2: Was that right?
- 20:04Speaker 4: Very right?
- 20:05Speaker 2: Yeah? And I understand you were part of of like
- 20:10Speaker 2: a guard of honor, is that right?
- 20:12Speaker 4: Yeah? So we were weaving flags when they when the
- 20:16Speaker 4: Saracens team ran out.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Did you? Yeah? And I mean, what did it? What
- 20:21Speaker 2: did it feel like? I mean, was the stadium really
- 20:23Speaker 2: really packed?
- 20:25Speaker 4: It was really packed, and it felt quite.
- 20:29Speaker 2: Excited excited. I bet. Yeah.
- 20:31Speaker 1: That's good because I mean, I don't suppose you've ever
- 20:34Speaker 1: seen that many people together at one time, have you?
- 20:38Speaker 4: No?
- 20:38Speaker 6: No?
- 20:39Speaker 1: I mean I mean I have been doing some homework
- 20:43Speaker 1: and the Saracens. The ground holds over ten thousand people,
- 20:47Speaker 1: and I mean that is amazing, isn't it.
- 20:51Speaker 4: Yeah? The last time when it probably was about nine
- 20:55Speaker 4: thousand was there?
- 20:57Speaker 2: Yeah, that's brilliant. Yeah. And what about you? Was you
- 21:02Speaker 2: part of the Gold of Honor?
- 21:06Speaker 4: Yes? I was?
- 21:08Speaker 2: And and and did it? Did you wave the flag?
- 21:11Speaker 2: Did you?
- 21:12Speaker 4: Yeah? I waved the flag. I went through to celebrate
- 21:17Speaker 4: the Saracens and it was quite fun.
- 21:26Speaker 1: So did I mean when you saw the crowd did
- 21:30Speaker 1: that sort of excite you?
- 21:33Speaker 2: Did you think, oh my word, look at all those people?
- 21:36Speaker 4: Yes?
- 21:36Speaker 1: I bet you've never seen so many people either, have you?
- 21:39Speaker 1: Have you have you been to a big game before?
- 21:42Speaker 4: Yes, I've been to two, one at Twicklam, one at Saracens.
- 21:48Speaker 4: I think we No, we've watched two at Saracens. So
- 21:54Speaker 4: the the first one we did was when Bath went
- 22:01Speaker 4: against Saxons and Bath one did they come back and
- 22:08Speaker 4: they went against Harlequins the second one and sadly Harlequin's lost.
- 22:18Speaker 2: Yeah, that's putting the thumbs up there.
- 22:21Speaker 1: And what about you, Pippa? Have you been to a
- 22:24Speaker 1: big game apart from Saracens. Have you been to Twickenham?
- 22:27Speaker 4: Yeah? I've been to Tick quite a lot. Have you
- 22:30Speaker 4: watched the final?
- 22:31Speaker 2: Which final was that? Can you remember.
- 22:35Speaker 4: The Women's World's Cut.
- 22:36Speaker 2: The Women's World Cup?
- 22:37Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 22:38Speaker 2: Oh my word, fantastic as that.
- 22:41Speaker 1: And I don't know how did they get a twicken
- 22:43Speaker 1: and leaf sixty thou.
- 22:45Speaker 5: Full house for the ladies?
- 22:46Speaker 1: It was eighty thousand, eighty oh, eighty two thousand, and
- 22:51Speaker 1: you were one of them.
- 22:53Speaker 2: Yes, brilliant. That's a great experience, isn't it? So could
- 22:58Speaker 2: you imagine yourself out on that pitch, playing in front
- 23:03Speaker 2: of eighty thousand people? Would you like to have swapped
- 23:07Speaker 2: and been there on that pitch?
- 23:08Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 23:09Speaker 4: I really wanted to play on that pitch. I really
- 23:12Speaker 4: want to become a professional rugby player.
- 23:14Speaker 2: Oh that's good.
- 23:15Speaker 1: That's very ambitious of you, and I do hope your
- 23:17Speaker 1: dream comes true.
- 23:18Speaker 2: Piper.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to play a song now, and now
- 23:21Speaker 1: this is one that Pipper has asked for.
- 23:25Speaker 2: What's this one called? Then, Pip, do you know what
- 23:27Speaker 2: it's called?
- 23:29Speaker 4: Flashlight?
- 23:30Speaker 1: That's right, it's Jesse j and the Flashlights.
- 23:38Speaker 6: When's miracle, I'll be on my own feeling frightened up
- 23:43Speaker 6: the things that I don't know flat live live live,
- 23:54Speaker 6: You're a flash live live lie ye, there we go.
- 24:02Speaker 1: That's Jesse j and flashlight and that one it was
- 24:06Speaker 1: for Pip. Okay, now we're going to bring Pipper's mum in, Kate, Kate,
- 24:11Speaker 1: how are you?
- 24:12Speaker 2: Yeah? Good?
- 24:13Speaker 7: Thank you?
- 24:13Speaker 2: Yeah kay?
- 24:14Speaker 1: This is You've been sitting there quietly in the corner,
- 24:16Speaker 1: but it's so nice for you to come on. And
- 24:19Speaker 1: I mean, what is it like with a daughter that
- 24:21Speaker 1: loves playing rugby? I mean, obviously you support her because
- 24:25Speaker 1: you've been telling me that you, the pair of you
- 24:27Speaker 1: have been all over the place watching rugby.
- 24:29Speaker 2: Is that right.
- 24:30Speaker 7: Yeah, We've always come from sort of quite a rugby
- 24:33Speaker 7: family and we started both girls off in rugby tots
- 24:36Speaker 7: when they were two. And yeah, it's been great since
- 24:39Speaker 7: they've come to the club, and especially lovely in the
- 24:42Speaker 7: for Pipper's age group because I've just seen more and more,
- 24:45Speaker 7: more and more girls join the team. She's got some
- 24:47Speaker 7: really good friends in the team now and it's not
- 24:50Speaker 7: really nus family atmosphere.
- 24:51Speaker 2: Yeah club, Yeah, right, Sunday morning's up there.
- 24:54Speaker 1: And you were telling me off are that you've actually
- 24:57Speaker 1: been to some really big games. Just tell me again.
- 25:00Speaker 7: Yeah, it was great having the Women's World Cup last
- 25:02Speaker 7: year and there are a lot so for the big
- 25:04Speaker 7: games as well that girls games tend to be a
- 25:06Speaker 7: bit cheaper. So yeah, we managed to get to a few.
- 25:08Speaker 7: We went to Lee actually sorted tickets out for us
- 25:11Speaker 7: to go with the Folks and Ladies team, so Brighton.
- 25:15Speaker 7: We watched them play Australia and then we managed to
- 25:19Speaker 7: get tickets to go to the final twicken them like
- 25:21Speaker 7: people were saying, and yeah, just to be in stands
- 25:24Speaker 7: with complete full capacity for the.
- 25:26Speaker 2: Women's games have been awesome.
- 25:28Speaker 7: And they won, didn't they?
- 25:30Speaker 2: Yes? They did?
- 25:31Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 25:31Speaker 1: Okay, And what about about you? Will you've been to
- 25:36Speaker 1: some big games apart from Harlequins. You ever been to Twickenham.
- 25:40Speaker 4: Yes, I've been to Twicklem I think once or twice.
- 25:47Speaker 5: Yeah, it was once. And we's England France ladies.
- 25:50Speaker 2: You've watched England France ladies. We have brilliant sitting there.
- 25:56Speaker 4: My friends watching their game.
- 25:59Speaker 2: And did you go up on your own or was
- 26:01Speaker 2: it a crowd of you from the club.
- 26:02Speaker 4: There was a kind of us from the club a bit.
- 26:07Speaker 4: I have some of my best rugby friends.
- 26:10Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've made a lot of new friends at rugby,
- 26:13Speaker 2: have you, Yes, that's really good.
- 26:17Speaker 4: Past, there's been more and more people that been joining
- 26:21Speaker 4: the rugby club.
- 26:22Speaker 2: Great, it's brilliant.
- 26:23Speaker 1: That's really good because it's nice to have a friendly
- 26:27Speaker 1: family atmosphere and you're comfortable so that when you go
- 26:32Speaker 1: you look forward to it looks seeing forward to seeing
- 26:34Speaker 1: your friends.
- 26:35Speaker 2: Is that right?
- 26:36Speaker 3: Yes?
- 26:36Speaker 4: And we had the Saracen coaches come to us and
- 26:40Speaker 4: teach us for two days.
- 26:42Speaker 2: Right. Do you know what?
- 26:43Speaker 1: I don't think we've spoke about that yet, So Lee,
- 26:45Speaker 1: if you come in so luj I mean, tell us
- 26:48Speaker 1: about the connection that you've got with the Saracens.
- 26:50Speaker 5: Yeah. I've been lucky. It's sort off the back of
- 26:52Speaker 5: the under fifteens.
- 26:53Speaker 3: They've been going there the last couple of seasons and
- 26:55Speaker 3: we took the underrates there last year's playing a festival.
- 27:00Speaker 3: We were really really lucky and surprised on the day
- 27:02Speaker 3: that Saracens the first time we went, they actually came up,
- 27:05Speaker 3: tapped me on the shoulder and said, we love the
- 27:07Speaker 3: values of your kids when we watched them play.
- 27:10Speaker 5: Do you want to be guard of honor?
- 27:11Speaker 3: So they went and then off the back of that
- 27:14Speaker 3: they asked us to go up to the next one
- 27:16Speaker 3: where we did we took a takeover day and we
- 27:18Speaker 3: took four hundred folks to parents and players, took over
- 27:23Speaker 3: one wing, played in a festival, did the guard of honor,
- 27:27Speaker 3: played on the pitch at halftime, got to see the
- 27:29Speaker 3: players after and then they asked, can we hold a
- 27:33Speaker 3: Saracen's camp. So we held a rugby camp two weeks
- 27:35Speaker 3: ago for two days, so under sevens to under fourteens.
- 27:39Speaker 3: We had a full pitch of rugby being played for
- 27:41Speaker 3: two days and it's just growing. And it's nice because
- 27:44Speaker 3: they're actually asking us so in the background of everything
- 27:47Speaker 3: that we're and the parents and coaches and all the
- 27:49Speaker 3: volunteers are trying to achieve. When you've got premiership clubs contacting.
- 27:53Speaker 2: You, Yeah, that's great because everybody a.
- 27:55Speaker 5: Pat on the back that we're doing the right thing
- 27:56Speaker 5: in the right way.
- 27:57Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So Kate come back in, Kate.
- 28:00Speaker 1: I mean, do you do you think that that rugby
- 28:03Speaker 1: has kind of well changed Pipper, brought her out of
- 28:06Speaker 1: herself a little bit, added to a character, made new friends.
- 28:11Speaker 7: Yeah, she's made It's nice having it's nice for Pip
- 28:13Speaker 7: having a group of friends outside of school. And also,
- 28:18Speaker 7: what's your nickname? What does Lee call you Skipper, Piper Skipper,
- 28:22Speaker 7: and it has I think, yeah, it develops a few
- 28:25Speaker 7: like leadership qualities. Yeah, yeah, I think she Pip's been
- 28:28Speaker 7: one of the longest on the team and she's quite
- 28:30Speaker 7: good now sort of organizing her team and making making
- 28:34Speaker 7: sure everyone gets involved, everyone gets a chance to have,
- 28:37Speaker 7: you know, get Yeah.
- 28:40Speaker 2: Great, great.
- 28:42Speaker 1: I mean I've been kind of following from Afar if
- 28:45Speaker 1: you like the rugby club for many many years, and
- 28:48Speaker 1: I've just always found it so friendly and it's a
- 28:51Speaker 1: great thing that you're doing their Lee because, as Saracen said,
- 28:54Speaker 1: you're teaching them the right values. And we're seeing the
- 28:57Speaker 1: difference between the Rugby World Cup and the Football World Cup,
- 29:01Speaker 1: which was just embarrassing for the whole game really the
- 29:04Speaker 1: Football World Cup. And a good point that Shelley made
- 29:08Speaker 1: when we was in the Captain of the Ladies she said,
- 29:11Speaker 1: if the players have got a grief, any grief, they
- 29:14Speaker 1: have to go to the captain and the captain goes
- 29:16Speaker 1: to the referee.
- 29:17Speaker 2: And is that right?
- 29:19Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 29:19Speaker 3: No, absolutely, fatally agree. There's one focal point and what
- 29:22Speaker 3: the ref says goes. They're starting to understand it obviously,
- 29:26Speaker 3: Like you say, mixed messages. When the kids are watching
- 29:28Speaker 3: football a lot more that they see what the players
- 29:31Speaker 3: are mess but when the rugby comes, they know what says,
- 29:34Speaker 3: goes and yeah, the values of the game.
- 29:36Speaker 2: Yeah, and love.
- 29:38Speaker 1: I love watching the clips on Facebook and YouTube where
- 29:41Speaker 1: the referee is only a little five foot two Welsh
- 29:43Speaker 1: bloke and he's telling off, you know, a six foot
- 29:46Speaker 1: four a rugby player, and it looks the rugby player
- 29:50Speaker 1: looks like a little schoolboy being told of and absolutely
- 29:54Speaker 1: understands him. And if he says right off for twenty
- 29:57Speaker 1: ten minutes or whatever it.
- 29:58Speaker 2: Is, they just go. They just go. And I do
- 30:02Speaker 2: sympathize with football referees. Okay, a bit more music now.
- 30:05Speaker 1: Now, this one I've just dragged from the playlist because
- 30:08Speaker 1: I like it, really.
- 30:08Speaker 2: No other reason. This is Irim and the one I love.
- 30:23Speaker 4: This swine goes out to.
- 30:36Speaker 2: Irim nineteen eighty seven, The One I Love.
- 30:40Speaker 1: Okay, we're fast running out of time, so we're going
- 30:43Speaker 1: to have a chat with Lee now about some of
- 30:45Speaker 1: the things that are going on at the club. And
- 30:48Speaker 1: I understand you've got an open day coming up, Lee.
- 30:51Speaker 3: Yes, Seasons as Finally back Sunday, the sixth of September.
- 30:55Speaker 3: It's felled a long gap when obviously we worked hard
- 30:58Speaker 3: for nine months and then three months off these but
- 31:00Speaker 3: you know, we kick it back open day for the
- 31:02Speaker 3: public sick for September ten am and we've got inflatables,
- 31:07Speaker 3: bars open, food's open. Even if people just want to
- 31:10Speaker 3: come along watch and use inflatables, they're more than welcome.
- 31:13Speaker 3: It's just a complete community open day.
- 31:15Speaker 2: Okay, there be any games going on.
- 31:17Speaker 3: Is sort of like age group from fives right up
- 31:20Speaker 3: to fifteen's and it's just an open day, so they
- 31:23Speaker 3: come along play.
- 31:24Speaker 5: There's no commitment at all.
- 31:26Speaker 3: If people do want to come along and try rugby,
- 31:28Speaker 3: they do get two weeks completely free.
- 31:31Speaker 5: Just have a try.
- 31:32Speaker 3: Bide the pun But yeah, it's the sixth September. We're
- 31:36Speaker 3: officially back and can't wait to get right back on
- 31:38Speaker 3: the pitch.
- 31:38Speaker 1: But I do understand I picked up a few weeks
- 31:40Speaker 1: ago that because of the pitches that they put the
- 31:44Speaker 1: season back a couple of weeks.
- 31:45Speaker 2: Is that right?
- 31:46Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, Grassroots Rugby official.
- 31:48Speaker 3: The season was delayed a couple of weeks just because
- 31:50Speaker 3: obviously the ground's just been so hard, and then since then,
- 31:53Speaker 3: obviously the rains continuously started coming in, so obviously that'll
- 31:57Speaker 3: improve training. But it's the right thing on a safety aspect.
- 31:59Speaker 3: The grounds far too hard.
- 32:01Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right.
- 32:02Speaker 1: And you know what, I was looking at some Saracen's
- 32:05Speaker 1: doing a bit of research on Saracens and I picked
- 32:07Speaker 1: up that that is actually an artificial pitch.
- 32:09Speaker 2: Is that right?
- 32:10Speaker 5: Yes?
- 32:10Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a hybrid four G pitch. It has a
- 32:12Speaker 3: bit of grass in it. I mean, obviously all weather pitches.
- 32:15Speaker 3: If you've got anybody's got to spare a million pounds peace,
- 32:17Speaker 3: do get in contact because we'd.
- 32:19Speaker 5: Love to have a pitch. But yeah, it's the way
- 32:21Speaker 5: it's going.
- 32:22Speaker 3: But obviously it's a grassroots sports that I always look
- 32:24Speaker 3: at it as long as Twickenham's grass or hybrid than
- 32:27Speaker 3: wearby grass.
- 32:28Speaker 5: But yeah, certainly the way things are going.
- 32:30Speaker 1: Did I did, oh going back a number of years when,
- 32:34Speaker 1: if you like, more artificials were artificial pitches were coming
- 32:37Speaker 1: round and I saw that one of the grounds it
- 32:41Speaker 1: might have been Saracens have got artificial and I thought,
- 32:45Speaker 1: how can they play rugby on artificial surface?
- 32:47Speaker 2: But there's different.
- 32:48Speaker 1: Grades, isn't there there's different grades of artificial pitch. The
- 32:51Speaker 1: ones that footballers play on are different to the ones
- 32:53Speaker 1: that rugby players play on.
- 32:54Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely, it's just because the contact with the
- 32:57Speaker 3: pit players on the ground a little bit more.
- 32:58Speaker 5: It's sort of it's not just when people hear three
- 33:01Speaker 5: G four G.
- 33:03Speaker 3: Obviously, the rugby is a special hybrid where obviously it
- 33:06Speaker 3: is different. That's why it's a little bit more expensive,
- 33:08Speaker 3: but it's longer lasting. At the same time, I imagine
- 33:10Speaker 3: you can then use it for all sports, but rugby's
- 33:13Speaker 3: are specific type of turf.
- 33:15Speaker 1: Yes, Now, Pipper, you were shouting at Lee and saying
- 33:19Speaker 1: something about Wednesday.
- 33:20Speaker 2: What's going on Wednesday?
- 33:23Speaker 4: All girls chainings.
- 33:25Speaker 2: All girls training? Yes, yeah, okay, and I'll ask Lea
- 33:32Speaker 2: this one. Is that the first training session.
- 33:34Speaker 3: When we come back to the season. Yeah, basically at
- 33:37Speaker 3: the end of last year, off the back of obviously
- 33:40Speaker 3: the girls teams grow and we have just all girls
- 33:42Speaker 3: training on a Wednesday night six till seven.
- 33:45Speaker 5: Obviously, unfortunately got off.
- 33:47Speaker 3: When we had that bad spell, and when we came
- 33:49Speaker 3: back and got some momentum, the season stopped. But when
- 33:51Speaker 3: the season comes back and starts and sixth then every
- 33:53Speaker 3: Wednesday at the club six till seven it's girls only training.
- 33:57Speaker 1: Okay, so so Pipper girls only training, so no boys allowed.
- 34:03Speaker 1: And just about how many girls do you get.
- 34:09Speaker 2: Lou you might be able to help us in?
- 34:12Speaker 3: Ye, I mean it was about fifty sets between twenty
- 34:15Speaker 3: and forty girls.
- 34:16Speaker 2: We get to twenty to forty, yeah.
- 34:18Speaker 3: Every single and that ranges from under seven to sort
- 34:21Speaker 3: of under twelves.
- 34:22Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, that was just the first installment.
- 34:26Speaker 1: Of Oh great, I mean that must be amazing. And
- 34:29Speaker 1: is Lou your coach that day?
- 34:31Speaker 4: Well, we've got Lea's than head coach with like the girls,
- 34:35Speaker 4: but like other coaches from other age groups will come
- 34:39Speaker 4: in and help.
- 34:40Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh that's great.
- 34:41Speaker 1: Yeah, and do you enjoy that you look forward to
- 34:43Speaker 1: that thing? Oh, I've got rugby training tonight.
- 34:45Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 34:45Speaker 4: It's just a really happy feeling when you know you've
- 34:48Speaker 4: you're out, you've got you get the chance to go
- 34:52Speaker 4: play on the pitch and stuff.
- 34:54Speaker 1: And Kay is is Pipper sort of really honor tizes
- 34:57Speaker 1: when it's Wednesday and she's sort of jumping at the
- 35:00Speaker 1: bit to get out there.
- 35:01Speaker 7: Yeah, we're out of school and it's is it training?
- 35:04Speaker 2: Is it training?
- 35:05Speaker 7: And yeah, and it's been great actually from the all
- 35:06Speaker 7: girls sessions like we had some. Yeah, I remember the
- 35:09Speaker 7: first ones that started up sort of crazy weather and
- 35:13Speaker 7: if just girls slided about in the mud. Yeah, it
- 35:16Speaker 7: was a really good atmosphere up there.
- 35:17Speaker 2: Right.
- 35:17Speaker 1: Do you know what, I've really got to stop everybody
- 35:19Speaker 1: there because we've only got twenty seconds of the show left.
- 35:23Speaker 1: I can't believe this. I just want to thank you
- 35:25Speaker 1: everybody for coming in so much. You know, it's been
- 35:27Speaker 1: great fun. I haven't even got time to go around
- 35:29Speaker 1: because that's it from me for today. I won't be
- 35:32Speaker 1: here Next Saturday, Ad'll be flying solo. So I head
- 35:34Speaker 1: off to play some music and have a chat at
- 35:36Speaker 1: the five k your Way within a Dover Park run
- 35:39Speaker 1: that's to celebrate their first birthday.
- 35:42Speaker 2: So I'll be there, and I.
- 35:44Speaker 1: Can't believe we've only got five seconds left. Oh, it's
- 35:47Speaker 1: been great. Thank you so much for coming in online
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