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- 0:14Speaker 1: Oh man, so much. Update John.
- 0:16Speaker 2: As we roll into our nine o'clock hour here on
- 0:19Speaker 2: this Thursday, andrews hearst.
- 0:20Speaker 1: We'll be joining us a little bit later on in
- 0:22Speaker 1: the hour.
- 0:23Speaker 2: He's turned into a soccer expert right before our eyes.
- 0:26Speaker 2: So we'll chat with him.
- 0:27Speaker 3: He's all grown up.
- 0:28Speaker 1: I know, I know.
- 0:29Speaker 2: We'll chat with him. At nine thirty we got a
- 0:31Speaker 2: US opened. Day one. You probably woke up long after
- 0:35Speaker 2: the delay, the suspension of play because of fog earlier
- 0:39Speaker 2: this morning, if you're listening right now, well, yeah, they
- 0:42Speaker 2: stopped play for two hours. They started stopped. Fog was
- 0:46Speaker 2: too thick. Nobody could see their ball, couldn't see where
- 0:49Speaker 2: it was going. Have fun with golf.
- 0:51Speaker 3: Nobody could see their ball singular, by the way, should
- 0:56Speaker 3: just point that out.
- 0:58Speaker 2: No, Actually, the fog was so thick that players were complaining,
- 1:03Speaker 2: I can't see my balls.
- 1:05Speaker 4: That is thick fog, Yes, really, really, really thick.
- 1:10Speaker 2: I went out into the woods, took a look, took
- 1:14Speaker 2: a long extended look, and the fog was so thick,
- 1:18Speaker 2: gathered around my waistline, I could not see my balls.
- 1:23Speaker 4: Not a.
- 1:25Speaker 3: It's a bummer.
- 1:26Speaker 4: No, you never want that. I mean, at that point Yeah,
- 1:29Speaker 4: all things should be suspended. Everyone should stay home.
- 1:31Speaker 2: I tell you what, even without the fog, they're not
- 1:34Speaker 2: having a real good time out there at Shine.
- 1:37Speaker 1: They are not scoring low. We have what.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Eight golfers, yes, eight that are under par right now.
- 1:46Speaker 2: The leading score one under one under Sam Burns, Brooks
- 1:51Speaker 2: Koepka live albel Patrick Reid is in that group. So
- 1:57Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of you know, recognizable names,
- 2:00Speaker 2: big names in the sport. But it's been quite the
- 2:03Speaker 2: challenge so far there at Shinnecock. We're going to get
- 2:05Speaker 2: you a live update coming up at nine to twenty.
- 2:08Speaker 2: And of course I am keeping the eyes on my
- 2:11Speaker 2: golfers that we Green Jacket drafted yesterday with your friend
- 2:15Speaker 2: Alex Dunlop from PNW Golf Academy.
- 2:18Speaker 1: He was really mean about my team.
- 2:20Speaker 3: He said your team sucked.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Yeah, he said.
- 2:22Speaker 2: At one point he said, you should be so embarrassed
- 2:26Speaker 2: drafting a team that bad.
- 2:27Speaker 1: You should just move.
- 2:29Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, just out of the state radio, Yes,
- 2:33Speaker 4: where a hoodie pull the drawstring tight and walk around.
- 2:36Speaker 1: And I thought that was extreme.
- 2:37Speaker 3: Yeah, that seemed to mean.
- 2:38Speaker 2: I mean, we brought him on as a special picker
- 2:41Speaker 2: guest and he couldn't have been crueler.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Toward me and my team.
- 2:44Speaker 2: He at one point said, you should take your four
- 2:47Speaker 2: golfers that you drafted, put a blindfold on him, give
- 2:50Speaker 2: him a cigarette, and just shoot him behind a barn.
- 2:51Speaker 3: Oh wow, Yeah, that would be really mean to say.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean really, and.
- 2:56Speaker 3: Especially to your bad well, and especially think about that.
- 2:59Speaker 3: Those are the things he said to you. How about
- 3:01Speaker 3: the things he said when you weren't listening.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:04Speaker 2: At one point he said, and I am quoting that
- 3:08Speaker 2: team you drafted is so bad, I'm calling the cops.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Oh man.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:13Speaker 3: And did the cops show up at your house next night?
- 3:14Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 3:15Speaker 3: They did.
- 3:15Speaker 1: Oh sorry, they arrested me, beat me up for a
- 3:18Speaker 1: little while. I had ps had to post bail.
- 3:23Speaker 5: Ah.
- 3:24Speaker 3: That's nice of him to do though.
- 3:25Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he took time after dinner. All right, So
- 3:29Speaker 1: there you go. We'll get you a real update.
- 3:30Speaker 2: Coming up at nine twenty here this morning. Also, we
- 3:35Speaker 2: will talk about the World Cup with andrews Hurst as well,
- 3:38Speaker 2: which you can watch at it t lalap Resort Casino.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Maybe you don't want to be a part of all
- 3:43Speaker 2: the hype in the hubbub. Maybe it just breaks your
- 3:45Speaker 2: heart that I can't afford the ticket or I couldn't
- 3:47Speaker 2: get a ticket, And you know what, I'm not going
- 3:50Speaker 2: to come down there and just stand outside looking forlorn.
- 3:53Speaker 2: I'm going to watch the match at Beautiful to lalap
- 3:56Speaker 2: Resort Casino. That's where I'm going to take it in.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Maybe buy some Summer Concert Series tickets while I'm there.
- 4:02Speaker 2: With all the winnings that I get from what I
- 4:05Speaker 2: put on the line at.
- 4:06Speaker 3: Drafting Sports Bark, you are speaking my language.
- 4:09Speaker 2: Yeah, A lot of things to do there, oh man,
- 4:12Speaker 2: speaking of speaking your language.
- 4:14Speaker 3: I can't wait for this.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Yes?
- 4:16Speaker 2: Is it just us or did Jessmin McIntyre come back
- 4:21Speaker 2: from Australia with an Ausi accent?
- 4:24Speaker 4: I don't know what happened, but all of a sudden
- 4:26Speaker 4: she was like good day, mite, started eating shrimp on sticks.
- 4:32Speaker 3: And I'm certain there was a bird on her shoulder.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Yes. She apparently learned how to talk to birds yep
- 4:38Speaker 1: while she was there, bird lady.
- 4:40Speaker 2: Yeah, and then came back sounding like Ryan Rowland Smith's little.
- 4:45Speaker 3: Sister m h yeah.
- 4:47Speaker 4: And I'm fairly certain she's going to have him over
- 4:50Speaker 4: for some Australian toast of biscuits.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Eh, She's like she's getting ready for an Australian toaster biscuit.
- 4:59Speaker 3: Who's she going to be? You're in four tomorrow.
- 5:00Speaker 2: That's what I wanted, right, if you has your allegiance
- 5:03Speaker 2: is a switch that rapidly?
- 5:05Speaker 1: Are you going to be allsy allsy ausy early?
- 5:08Speaker 2: Oi?
- 5:08Speaker 3: Oi gross? That made me puke thinking about it.
- 5:12Speaker 1: That'll be Mac and Tyre tomorrow.
- 5:13Speaker 2: That will be I did have a thought though about
- 5:16Speaker 2: the World Cup. Maybe this is why people like soccer
- 5:19Speaker 2: so much.
- 5:19Speaker 1: So, Like if I.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Watch a Mariners game and I don't know what this is,
- 5:25Speaker 2: and it's a pretty slow moving game, right, It's not
- 5:27Speaker 2: like there are a lot of runs scored in a
- 5:29Speaker 2: baseball game. I mean your average game's probably five four
- 5:33Speaker 2: four three somewhere in that, you know. So you know,
- 5:36Speaker 2: people have complained years that there's not enough action. I
- 5:38Speaker 2: get that in a major League baseball game. But for
- 5:41Speaker 2: whatever reason, I could go to the restroom and then
- 5:46Speaker 2: if I get distracted at all, maybe go make a
- 5:48Speaker 2: cup of coffee or make a sandwich or whatever the
- 5:50Speaker 2: case may be. Without fail, I will come back to
- 5:54Speaker 2: my television set. I'm like, what on earth? How does
- 5:56Speaker 2: it two to one? It was zero to zero. I
- 5:59Speaker 2: couldn't have been gone that. When did I miss? And
- 6:01Speaker 2: I have to rewind and find out what I missed?
- 6:04Speaker 2: Like how could all of that action have occurred? How
- 6:07Speaker 2: did both teams scored? And the time it took me
- 6:09Speaker 2: to make a turkey sandwich slow rose the turkey?
- 6:13Speaker 1: Yeah, I do that in a.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Basketball game, like oh, I gotta get my laundry out,
- 6:18Speaker 2: and by the time I get my laundry back to
- 6:20Speaker 2: the chair to fold it, Like why is somebody on
- 6:23Speaker 2: the court injured? What is happening here? And I got
- 6:27Speaker 2: to go rewind and find out what happened in the
- 6:30Speaker 2: basketball game that I missed. Why are the Spurs down ten?
- 6:33Speaker 2: I thought they were just up ten, they were.
- 6:34Speaker 3: Just up twenty nine? What happened?
- 6:37Speaker 1: Without fail, it doesn't matter.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Like football is pretty good, you know, you kind of
- 6:41Speaker 2: get your timing down to yeah, you get your timing
- 6:44Speaker 2: down and you know that they're going to be away
- 6:46Speaker 2: for a little while and the.
- 6:48Speaker 3: You know, halftimes a great time to get things done.
- 6:50Speaker 2: A lot of timeouts stuff like that that you can
- 6:53Speaker 2: get some stuff done. But I guess maybe this is
- 6:57Speaker 2: why soccer is so popular because you can leave a
- 7:00Speaker 2: soccer match for like thirty minutes, come back and nothing
- 7:03Speaker 2: has changed.
- 7:04Speaker 4: Yeah, and they could be could You could look at
- 7:06Speaker 4: it and be like, did I accidentally pause the game
- 7:09Speaker 4: All the Cocks movie?
- 7:10Speaker 3: Yeah, what's happening?
- 7:11Speaker 2: You could go like I could go finish my novel? Uh,
- 7:17Speaker 2: come back like, oh guy, I didn't miss anything.
- 7:20Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, we're goods all right, unless Messi's playing apparently.
- 7:25Speaker 2: Well, I'm not saying it applies to every match. I'm
- 7:27Speaker 2: just saying there are a lot of them.
- 7:29Speaker 4: More often than not, there were some that you could
- 7:32Speaker 4: have left for ninety minutes.
- 7:34Speaker 3: Yeah, you could not miss the thing.
- 7:36Speaker 2: You could like, take your kid to school, and I
- 7:39Speaker 2: mean for all twelve years they're in school. Come back
- 7:43Speaker 2: after their graduation and Ghana will still be scoreless with Portugal.
- 7:48Speaker 3: Yep, that's the That's what you have to look forward to.
- 7:51Speaker 2: So I guess I'm just starting to get why it's
- 7:53Speaker 2: so popular. All right, let's talk some Mariners baseball here. Firstly,
- 8:00Speaker 2: update you, Julio. We don't have anything this morning. I've
- 8:04Speaker 2: checked all the all the wise men in town to
- 8:07Speaker 2: find out if they've started reporting yet, but they all
- 8:10Speaker 2: got drunk last night.
- 8:11Speaker 1: And slept in obviously, Kramer, Jude.
- 8:13Speaker 3: Divish, I mean, isn't that half the job, right?
- 8:16Speaker 2: And so we don't have anything to update this morning,
- 8:18Speaker 2: but maybe you went to bed without an update. Julio
- 8:21Speaker 2: left the game with an injury and it was a hamstring.
- 8:25Speaker 2: But Dan explained it and he typically does not go
- 8:30Speaker 2: into detail about injuries, and the Mariners very tight lipped
- 8:33Speaker 2: about injuries more so than anybody. So Julio apparently had
- 8:37Speaker 2: a spasm that's what they're calling it, a spasm and
- 8:41Speaker 2: his hamstring. And of course the Mariners were down two runs,
- 8:44Speaker 2: and you know the Mariners, once you're down two runs,
- 8:46Speaker 2: the game's over.
- 8:47Speaker 1: It's always over at that point.
- 8:49Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it would have been nice to save,
- 8:52Speaker 4: not give up those last two runs, because you would
- 8:54Speaker 4: have been tied in the ninth.
- 8:55Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, Ashley, No, you don't have a chance.
- 8:58Speaker 2: A three to one game pretty much over. Bring in
- 9:00Speaker 2: your worst relievers and take out your best place.
- 9:02Speaker 3: Yep, that's what you should do. I could definitely look
- 9:06Speaker 3: at the television when you're down to and go happy.
- 9:09Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, good time to go raise the children right now?
- 9:14Speaker 2: So yes, So we leaves the game and we find
- 9:18Speaker 2: out that it's just a spasm, and that they were
- 9:20Speaker 2: saying that they were being cautious. I don't ever remember
- 9:22Speaker 2: having a spasm in my hamstring. I've had a pulled
- 9:25Speaker 2: hamstring before. I've had a cramp. I've had lots of cramps.
- 9:28Speaker 3: Is it like a Charlie Horse?
- 9:29Speaker 1: Do you think I don't know I've had I don't.
- 9:32Speaker 2: I guess I've had a backspasm. I haven't really had
- 9:34Speaker 2: a lot of back problems either. But whatever it was,
- 9:37Speaker 2: it was something that.
- 9:38Speaker 1: They weren't concerned about. Now.
- 9:40Speaker 2: They weren't all that concerned about Randy or Rose Arena either.
- 9:43Speaker 2: So maybe we'll find some different information out today. But
- 9:46Speaker 2: Josh Naylor is expected to play today. He's supposed to
- 9:49Speaker 2: be back from the shin injury. Uh.
- 9:52Speaker 1: And then I think.
- 9:54Speaker 2: They were trying to play it off like Julio will
- 9:56Speaker 2: be available today, but we shall see. Maybe they give
- 9:59Speaker 2: him day off as well. But certainly this team's getting
- 10:02Speaker 2: hit hard by the injury bug. And yet the pitchers
- 10:06Speaker 2: knock on wood got into your knock on wood thing
- 10:08Speaker 2: than you do. They stay healthy, and so they continue
- 10:13Speaker 2: to create this issue of too many pitchers for too
- 10:15Speaker 2: few spots. I did talk about this a little bit yesterday,
- 10:19Speaker 2: but I didn't really get to stretch my leg on
- 10:21Speaker 2: this topic. So the piggyback is coming back, and the
- 10:24Speaker 2: different version of the piggyback will be that they're going
- 10:28Speaker 2: to let all six of the starters participate in the
- 10:32Speaker 2: piggyback experiment. Apparently, logan George Brian they can't wait. Just
- 10:38Speaker 2: so much fun they want to be a part of it.
- 10:41Speaker 2: But no, Apparently, unlike the last time where they didn't
- 10:46Speaker 2: thoroughly explain their position apparently to Bryce Miller and Luis
- 10:50Speaker 2: Castillo until they'd had two separate goals at the Piggyback,
- 10:55Speaker 2: they weren't going to make that same mistake again. So
- 10:57Speaker 2: they gathered all six guys together in this same room
- 11:01Speaker 2: and they announced the six man rotation thing is not working,
- 11:06Speaker 2: and it was not working.
- 11:07Speaker 3: Correct.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Whatever problem you had with the piggyback, I mean, I
- 11:11Speaker 2: think you need to see counseling, frankly, because I think
- 11:14Speaker 2: that you hated it. You went so far to hating
- 11:17Speaker 2: it that you weren't going to be pleased with any result,
- 11:20Speaker 2: especially after that first game where the lead got blown
- 11:24Speaker 2: the whole gigantic one. Nothing lead got blown in the
- 11:28Speaker 2: ninth inning, and you were just weren't gonna you weren't
- 11:30Speaker 2: going to view it any other way than you hate it.
- 11:32Speaker 1: I hated. I hated. I hate it, and stomp your
- 11:34Speaker 1: feet and close your ears and no, no, no, no,
- 11:37Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. I don't want to
- 11:38Speaker 1: hear it again.
- 11:39Speaker 3: Top a piggy I hate it.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 11:41Speaker 2: So I think that's the kind of the approach you
- 11:43Speaker 2: take because some positive results, A lot of positive results
- 11:46Speaker 2: came out of that piggyback situation. Number One, we won
- 11:49Speaker 2: two out of the three games that we played with it,
- 11:51Speaker 2: and should have won all three. Number two, the two
- 11:53Speaker 2: starting pitchers, and yes, they did get their undies in
- 11:57Speaker 2: a bunch, both of them at one point the process.
- 12:01Speaker 2: And yet they pitched great, both of them. That's the
- 12:03Speaker 2: best Castillos pitched all year long. And Bryce Miller comes
- 12:06Speaker 2: off the injury list like he was born to piggyback,
- 12:10Speaker 2: and he looked terrific. And so both starters looked good.
- 12:13Speaker 2: And we also rested the bullpen for the most part.
- 12:17Speaker 2: That first game, you had to use fair to get
- 12:19Speaker 2: out of an inning, and they eventually brought in Muniosen.
- 12:23Speaker 2: I think the timing was off on the Bunjos decision.
- 12:26Speaker 2: I can admit to that, but that was the first
- 12:28Speaker 2: time you were trying it, and so other than that,
- 12:31Speaker 2: you got through the other two games without using any relievers.
- 12:35Speaker 2: And apparently this team needs a lot of help, a
- 12:39Speaker 2: lot of help managing this bullpen, like more than any
- 12:43Speaker 2: team that I've ever seen. Otherwise, a team that has
- 12:45Speaker 2: thrown the fewest innings out of the bullpen in the
- 12:49Speaker 2: entire American League wouldn't have in the middle of June
- 12:53Speaker 2: had to go two straight days without using their top
- 12:57Speaker 2: bullpen guys for the purpose of resetting the bullpen. And
- 13:03Speaker 2: that's because of the six man rotation. Well, if you
- 13:07Speaker 2: go back to the piggyback and you can get through it,
- 13:12Speaker 2: if your theory can be practiced, and it it is
- 13:16Speaker 2: Miller for five and Castillo for four.
- 13:20Speaker 1: I mean, you.
- 13:21Speaker 2: Have skipped one out of every five days without having
- 13:23Speaker 2: to dip into your bullpen. And Dan is having a
- 13:26Speaker 2: really hard.
- 13:27Speaker 1: Time managing the bullpen. Yeah, which really hard.
- 13:30Speaker 3: You can't quite understand why.
- 13:31Speaker 5: I don't.
- 13:32Speaker 1: I don't either, But wouldn't this help? Could Yes? If
- 13:35Speaker 1: we could give him some help, this could this could
- 13:37Speaker 1: help him?
- 13:37Speaker 3: Absolutely?
- 13:38Speaker 4: I mean clearly whatever we can do to assist, Yes,
- 13:42Speaker 4: and I think the piggyback is a much better option.
- 13:45Speaker 1: Well and I think so too.
- 13:47Speaker 2: And you know, ultimately you probably are going to have
- 13:51Speaker 2: to make that hard decision or it will take care
- 13:53Speaker 2: of it on its own. Yes, and we want to
- 13:56Speaker 2: want we don't want to talk about how we't want
- 13:59Speaker 2: to put that out. The universe could take care of
- 14:01Speaker 2: itself on its own. But it's so much better than
- 14:04Speaker 2: the six man rotation, and maybe you do have to
- 14:06Speaker 2: eventually have all right, these are the five we're going with,
- 14:09Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, X Pitcher, you're going to the bullpen.
- 14:14Speaker 1: Probably do have to arrive at that conclusion.
- 14:16Speaker 2: But in terms of how much dance struggling and stretching
- 14:22Speaker 2: his bullpen usage out, this kind of makes the most sense.
- 14:26Speaker 2: And I think that it felt gimmicky when they announced it.
- 14:30Speaker 2: But anything that's new, anything that's experimental, especially in sports
- 14:36Speaker 2: that most of the people that are watching have played
- 14:40Speaker 2: and or watched since they were children, and anything new
- 14:45Speaker 2: and different, it's gonna make people angry. The pitchcock made
- 14:48Speaker 2: people angry, The two throws to first base made people angry,
- 14:53Speaker 2: The dh made people.
- 14:54Speaker 1: Angry, and they get over them angry. That goes right. Yeah,
- 14:58Speaker 1: the extra innings made people angry.
- 15:01Speaker 2: I mean, anytime you try something that the fan base
- 15:04Speaker 2: has not seen before, and especially when it blows up
- 15:07Speaker 2: so spectacularly at the very end of the first experiment,
- 15:12Speaker 2: I think it taints people's perception of it.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Well, the reality is that it has.
- 15:18Speaker 2: Worked, certainly worked better than the six man rotation and
- 15:22Speaker 2: might give you a benefit that the five man rotation
- 15:25Speaker 2: wouldn't give you. Might give you that benefit. And I'll
- 15:29Speaker 2: give them credit for this. For all of the criticism
- 15:32Speaker 2: that was levied against the Mariners, and they're used to it.
- 15:35Speaker 1: They take a long on the lot of fire.
- 15:38Speaker 2: About they didn't communicate it to Bryce and Luis. So
- 15:43Speaker 2: if you're angry about that, then why are you also
- 15:46Speaker 2: angry that they sat down with the six and helped
- 15:49Speaker 2: let the six decide how they were going to do it?
- 15:52Speaker 1: Are you angry at both?
- 15:53Speaker 2: Yes, you're angry at both of them. I mean, is
- 15:55Speaker 2: this the same person or these different people that are
- 15:58Speaker 2: angry at both scenarios?
- 16:00Speaker 1: So they sit down with.
- 16:00Speaker 2: A six, like, how would you like for us to
- 16:03Speaker 2: do this? We have our ideas and they all raise
- 16:05Speaker 2: their hands let us all do it once. Let's just
- 16:07Speaker 2: all take turns doing it.
- 16:09Speaker 1: You know.
- 16:09Speaker 2: I see, look what it did for Luis kind of
- 16:12Speaker 2: fixed him the pressure of hey, I'm not only pitching
- 16:15Speaker 2: for myself and my team.
- 16:17Speaker 1: I got it.
- 16:18Speaker 2: Bryce was great today, And if I stink I let
- 16:21Speaker 2: Bryce down, I lose Bryce's game for him. For whatever
- 16:25Speaker 2: reason that Sharp and Luis castile, like we haven't seen
- 16:27Speaker 2: him in a couple of years.
- 16:29Speaker 1: Maybe they could all benefit from it.
- 16:31Speaker 2: Maybe they could all benefit from I mean, if you're
- 16:33Speaker 2: on a piggyback, the holder better have a firm hold
- 16:37Speaker 2: of you and you better not be squirmy. If you're
- 16:39Speaker 2: the writer, you know you gotta both play your role
- 16:41Speaker 2: in the piggyback. And maybe that responsibility for someone else's
- 16:46Speaker 2: success Sharp and Luis castill, maybe it could do the
- 16:49Speaker 2: same thing for George and Woo. Who knows, but I
- 16:52Speaker 2: think it's worth trying again, even at this advanced stage
- 16:56Speaker 2: of piggybacking.
- 16:57Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think people the people to address, who
- 17:00Speaker 4: are they the same people that are angry about the
- 17:02Speaker 4: communication thing.
- 17:03Speaker 3: I think those people think.
- 17:05Speaker 4: That the starters were all forced into it.
- 17:08Speaker 3: They didn't.
- 17:09Speaker 4: They're not really Because I even heard Softie and Dick
- 17:11Speaker 4: have Logan on yesterday and they weren't convinced that the
- 17:14Speaker 4: starters wanted this and that they offered it up willingly.
- 17:19Speaker 4: They were like, okay, so you're saying there was some
- 17:21Speaker 4: issues and Logan's like, no, like, we're good with it.
- 17:24Speaker 4: This is this is what we want to do, and
- 17:26Speaker 4: we're all fine with it. But I think people are
- 17:28Speaker 4: kind of looking for that issue and not saying that
- 17:30Speaker 4: Softy and Dick weren't necessarily, but just in general, people
- 17:34Speaker 4: just don't think that. I mean, right when we announced
- 17:37Speaker 4: the Piggyback unseerious organization, YE saw that everywhere. It's an
- 17:40Speaker 4: unseerious organization, and I think people were embarrassed by it. Well,
- 17:43Speaker 4: what happened right after we did it, other teams started
- 17:46Speaker 4: copying it.
- 17:47Speaker 3: They have started So how unseious is it?
- 17:49Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
- 17:50Speaker 2: And the truth of the matter is we really have
- 17:52Speaker 2: seven starters we should be using right now.
- 17:54Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
- 17:55Speaker 1: So I don't know how much more of that complicated.
- 17:58Speaker 2: That's phase three of the Piggyback experiment is how do
- 18:01Speaker 2: we incorporate Kate Anderson into this as well?
- 18:05Speaker 1: I think it's worth giving it a go.
- 18:07Speaker 2: Under the circumstances, I understand why they don't want to
- 18:10Speaker 2: choose just one of the six to become a reliever.
- 18:14Speaker 2: Maybe they do have to do that eventually and for
- 18:17Speaker 2: the bulk of the rest of the year. But for now,
- 18:20Speaker 2: what I've seen out of it, I thought it was
- 18:23Speaker 2: an interesting idea to begin with. I wouldn't sold on
- 18:25Speaker 2: it either. I thought it was an interesting idea to
- 18:28Speaker 2: begin with. I think they learned a lot of lessons
- 18:30Speaker 2: from the failures of round one. I think they learned
- 18:33Speaker 2: a lot of lessons from the lack of communication all
- 18:36Speaker 2: the way through round two of it. And now I
- 18:39Speaker 2: think maybe they've got their arms around it, and I
- 18:41Speaker 2: think maybe they've got willing participants, and I think maybe
- 18:45Speaker 2: it could help Dan Wilson, who seems to struggle with
- 18:48Speaker 2: his bullpen management more than anything else in his.
- 18:51Speaker 1: Job right now. So I'm for it.
- 18:54Speaker 2: I'm seeing it a little bit longer, not full full term,
- 18:58Speaker 2: not long term, but for right now, I think maybe, uh,
- 19:02Speaker 2: it is.
- 19:03Speaker 1: The right way to go with the pictures all right.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Coming up next, we've got andrews Hurst joining us right now.
- 19:08Speaker 2: An update from Shinnacock.
- 19:17Speaker 1: Oh, we're putting this guy to work. We've been hearing
- 19:20Speaker 1: a lot from our own anders Hurst here in the
- 19:22Speaker 1: last month or so.
- 19:24Speaker 3: He's busy.
- 19:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:26Speaker 2: Uh, that's what happens when the World Cup comes to
- 19:28Speaker 2: town and you've established yourself as a soccer.
- 19:32Speaker 3: Know it all a guru?
- 19:34Speaker 1: Yep. Joining us now on the program is our own
- 19:37Speaker 1: anders Hurst.
- 19:37Speaker 5: Good morning, sir, Good morning, Chuck. How are you today?
- 19:41Speaker 1: We're doing great, Guru, Thanks for being with us. We
- 19:44Speaker 1: appreciate it.
- 19:44Speaker 5: I don't know about, Guru, but you know, it's always
- 19:48Speaker 5: a fun time. This is like one of those where
- 19:51Speaker 5: wait four years for a big moment like this and
- 19:53Speaker 5: then it finally comes and then it's even better than
- 19:56Speaker 5: you expected.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Just what a guru would say. By the way, here,
- 20:00Speaker 1: Ashley's got glasses. She's got glasses now and they look
- 20:04Speaker 1: great on her.
- 20:05Speaker 5: Yeah, right, to come check it out.
- 20:10Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, she looks smarter and better and I feel smarter.
- 20:16Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, exactly. All right.
- 20:20Speaker 2: Well let's see how smart you are there, Guru, and
- 20:23Speaker 2: let's talk about this US soccer team. This game ready
- 20:26Speaker 2: player Australia tomorrow. They've given us one taste of World
- 20:30Speaker 2: Cup US action and they were very impressive. Have you
- 20:34Speaker 2: have you had to adjust, maybe your expectations for the
- 20:38Speaker 2: US team this World Cup.
- 20:41Speaker 5: Well, it's funny, I asked a few of my analysts
- 20:43Speaker 5: that same question, and I think maybe I'm a little
- 20:47Speaker 5: bit positive and looking back on my own takes before
- 20:52Speaker 5: the World Cup, but I feel like I was a
- 20:54Speaker 5: little bit higher on this USA people were I I
- 20:58Speaker 5: kind of think I'm on record saying that I think
- 21:01Speaker 5: there's a chance they could make a semi final run,
- 21:04Speaker 5: which you know, a lot of people kind of not
- 21:07Speaker 5: scoff at, but maybe were surprised than my good looks
- 21:13Speaker 5: out for the the US men's national team. But I
- 21:16Speaker 5: don't think I have to change my expectations because I
- 21:19Speaker 5: still believe that's kind of their stealing at this point.
- 21:22Speaker 5: If they are to go out and dominate Australia, who's
- 21:24Speaker 5: a completely different type of opponent, yeah than Paraguay provided
- 21:30Speaker 5: to be, then I think that might change my expectation
- 21:33Speaker 5: a little bit, not just because of the quality of opponent,
- 21:36Speaker 5: because I think Paraguay is probably still a better team
- 21:39Speaker 5: than Australia, but Australia is the type of team that
- 21:41Speaker 5: can frustrate those more talented teams coming with a very
- 21:46Speaker 5: and of just kind of sitting back a little bit
- 21:48Speaker 5: using their their size. They have two giant center back
- 21:52Speaker 5: you'alty look like trunks, and then they just kind of
- 21:55Speaker 5: frustrate the kind of more talented teams. And if you
- 21:59Speaker 5: you able to deal with that, then I think that
- 22:02Speaker 5: kind of proves that they're able to kind of adjust tactically,
- 22:05Speaker 5: and that will definitely maybe have my site settle the higher.
- 22:09Speaker 2: Tyler Adams from the US Roster said in an interview
- 22:12Speaker 2: just this morning that Christian Pulistic will be ready and
- 22:15Speaker 2: everybody needs to relax. And I am paraphrasing, I'm not
- 22:19Speaker 2: reading that anyone's that sure about pulistics availability, But what
- 22:25Speaker 2: would that do to the US's chances if he's not.
- 22:28Speaker 5: Available, Yeah, definitely would be a big blow. He's like
- 22:33Speaker 5: kind of he's what makes them tick. I think you
- 22:35Speaker 5: noticed a slight drop off when he came off at
- 22:38Speaker 5: halftime in that Paraguay game because he what he does
- 22:44Speaker 5: is when he gets the ball, he's able to isolate
- 22:47Speaker 5: defenders one on one and take them on. There's a
- 22:50Speaker 5: few other players that can do that, not the level
- 22:52Speaker 5: of Christian Poolistic, though, so having someone who can do
- 22:55Speaker 5: that kind of makes everything else go right, Otherwise you're
- 23:00Speaker 5: you're going to find yourself kind of in the situation
- 23:02Speaker 5: that Spain was when they drew zero zero, where you
- 23:05Speaker 5: dominate games but you aren't able to break down defenses
- 23:10Speaker 5: and create scoring opportunities. Very often it's been individuals, and
- 23:15Speaker 5: we've seen that in the last few days of this
- 23:17Speaker 5: tournament with the likes of Killian and Bofe Earling, Hollens,
- 23:21Speaker 5: Harry Kane, and of course Lionel Messi scoring a hat
- 23:23Speaker 5: trick yes or a couple of days. So when you
- 23:26Speaker 5: have those players making, you know, big time plays, that's
- 23:31Speaker 5: when teams kind of take that next step. So having
- 23:34Speaker 5: him not be available would be a huge blow for
- 23:36Speaker 5: the uf. I gotta say, Chuck, maybe I've been kind
- 23:40Speaker 5: of focusing on the tournament as a whole and maybe
- 23:43Speaker 5: not zoned in that much on the ability, you know,
- 23:47Speaker 5: question marks of Christian polistics. But right after it happened,
- 23:52Speaker 5: Mary Suppochatino said it was a precaution that we just
- 23:55Speaker 5: wanted to be careful. We felt pretty good in the
- 23:57Speaker 5: game the way it was going, so I haven't seen
- 24:01Speaker 5: anything to suggest that there would be any question that
- 24:04Speaker 5: he would be available. But maybe that's me and like
- 24:07Speaker 5: I said, focusing on the other games with our coverage.
- 24:10Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not reading very well.
- 24:12Speaker 2: I mean, look, I'm going to various sites and maybe
- 24:15Speaker 2: they're just downplaying it. Maybe they want Australia to not
- 24:19Speaker 2: be aware. I don't know. But Tyler Adams had a
- 24:21Speaker 2: different song that he was singing today, all right, help
- 24:24Speaker 2: us with this if he's out? I mean, is does
- 24:29Speaker 2: somebody come into the pulistic position?
- 24:32Speaker 1: I mean, is there a backup.
- 24:34Speaker 2: Polisic on the US squad that steps into his role?
- 24:39Speaker 2: Or is that a matter of no, everybody just stays
- 24:43Speaker 2: in their own role and has to has to step
- 24:47Speaker 2: up individually. I mean, is it just does he play
- 24:50Speaker 2: a position that has to be replaced or is he
- 24:52Speaker 2: just the extraordinary talent that they build the offense around.
- 24:56Speaker 5: Well, one of the things and one of the reasons
- 24:58Speaker 5: why I was so positive about this US men's national team,
- 25:02Speaker 5: and because this tournament specifically has an extra game with
- 25:05Speaker 5: there being forty eight teams instead of just thirty two
- 25:08Speaker 5: and previous iterations of the World Cup, depth is huge, right,
- 25:12Speaker 5: And one of the reasons I was so positive about
- 25:14Speaker 5: this US team is I feel like there's a lot
- 25:16Speaker 5: of really good options coming off the bench. You saw
- 25:19Speaker 5: g Orana, the guy who scored the fourth goal, how
- 25:21Speaker 5: much he had If you were looking for a straight
- 25:25Speaker 5: light for like swap with Christian Poolisic, who can do
- 25:27Speaker 5: a lot of the same things that he can, maybe
- 25:29Speaker 5: not to his level, but he can unlock games. He
- 25:32Speaker 5: has the talent to kind of take guys on one
- 25:35Speaker 5: on one and kind of open up defenses in that way.
- 25:39Speaker 5: I think Giorana would be the guy to step right
- 25:41Speaker 5: into that spot and be a very similar style of
- 25:45Speaker 5: player as Christian Poolistic. Now that may not be what
- 25:48Speaker 5: they do. They switch things up a little bit. Have
- 25:52Speaker 5: Leeke Tillman, who started the last game as well, kind
- 25:55Speaker 5: of play the position of Christian pool Issic, but in
- 25:57Speaker 5: a different way. And then they bring on a second
- 26:00Speaker 5: striker and then you kind of have a different look
- 26:03Speaker 5: for what you're doing. You have more of a playmaker
- 26:07Speaker 5: in Malik Tillman in the in the polistic position, and
- 26:10Speaker 5: then you have two strikers like Baligun who got two
- 26:13Speaker 5: goals in the Paraguay. Maybe it's either a Ricardo Peppi
- 26:17Speaker 5: or a Haugi right kind of to play off of
- 26:20Speaker 5: each other with the playmaker underneath. So there's different ways
- 26:23Speaker 5: that can go about this, and that's one of the
- 26:25Speaker 5: reasons why I think it's pretty well even if their
- 26:30Speaker 5: best player isn't available, and I trust Mauricio Pochattino to
- 26:33Speaker 5: make the right decision.
- 26:34Speaker 2: All right, lasting thirty seconds cementutede left. I'm gonna take
- 26:39Speaker 2: us winning off the board. I'm gonna take Argentina winning
- 26:42Speaker 2: off the board, and I'm gonna take Messi because he's
- 26:44Speaker 2: your favorite player scoring three goals off the board.
- 26:46Speaker 1: What's been your favorite thing about the World Cup so far?
- 26:50Speaker 5: Ooh, I'm gonna say more of a general thought. I'm surprised,
- 26:55Speaker 5: and you know, pleasantly surprised by how well the small
- 27:00Speaker 5: teams have done against the big teams, whether it's the
- 27:03Speaker 5: Democratic Republic of Congo and their first World Cup appearance
- 27:07Speaker 5: since nineteen seventy four, had never scored a goal in
- 27:10Speaker 5: the in the World Cup, never gotten a point, even
- 27:15Speaker 5: they got blanked the only time they've ever been to
- 27:17Speaker 5: the World Cup. They get their first goal and they
- 27:20Speaker 5: get their first point against one of the favorites in Portugal.
- 27:24Speaker 5: Stuff like that, whether it's Cape Verday playing the absolute
- 27:29Speaker 5: tournament's favorite, saying to a scoreless draw. I think it
- 27:32Speaker 5: shows how much talent is really around the world right now,
- 27:36Speaker 5: and it's not just focused on five, six, seven countries.
- 27:40Speaker 5: You're starting to see these big time players kind of
- 27:44Speaker 5: represent their home countries a little bit more often, and
- 27:48Speaker 5: I love to see. This is kind of this is
- 27:50Speaker 5: the best case scenario when you were thinking about expanding
- 27:53Speaker 5: the term. And I'm on record saying I wasn't a
- 27:55Speaker 5: huge fan of it, but I've been proven wrong by
- 27:57Speaker 5: how these smaller countries have fared in these first you know,
- 28:00Speaker 5: a week or so at the tournament.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Big of you to admit a guru would admit that
- 28:04Speaker 1: when he was wrong, and you've done You've done just that,
- 28:07Speaker 1: all right? Anything we need to promote before we let
- 28:09Speaker 1: you go? Are you gonna have?
- 28:10Speaker 2: You got thirteen different shows today? What do we need
- 28:13Speaker 2: to promote and andrews Hurst life.
- 28:15Speaker 5: Well, we do have I think the best game of
- 28:17Speaker 5: the day. We're broadcasting this evening. Mexico versus South Korea.
- 28:24Speaker 5: Of course, in the kick off the World Cup last week,
- 28:27Speaker 5: but it wasn't necessarily a convincing performance against the struggling
- 28:30Speaker 5: South Africa side. One Korea also won and they looked
- 28:34Speaker 5: really good. This is a big test for the one
- 28:36Speaker 5: of the host countries here tonight. I think this is
- 28:38Speaker 5: a great game, myself, Andy Jackson on the call or
- 28:42Speaker 5: on the pregame, halftime, postgame, I should say, starting at
- 28:45Speaker 5: five point thirty, and then we have a triple header tomorrow,
- 28:47Speaker 5: so it should be a fun couple of days of
- 28:49Speaker 5: World Cup soccer.
- 28:50Speaker 1: Awesome, man, keep up the great work. We'll bug you.
- 28:53Speaker 5: Soon, thanks so much, appreciate it.
- 28:56Speaker 2: Andrews Hurst joining us right here on Chuck and Buck
- 28:59Speaker 2: in the morning. All right, one thing next, Sports Radio
- 29:01Speaker 2: ninety three point three kJ RFM. All right, final segment
- 29:11Speaker 2: of our radio show here on this Thursday. We should
- 29:15Speaker 2: be having full scale coverage tomorrow down from Jimmy's on first.
- 29:19Speaker 1: I think that is the plan. There might be like a.
- 29:22Speaker 2: Nitpicky thing to have to figure out in terms of logistics,
- 29:26Speaker 2: but I do believe that's gonna happen.
- 29:28Speaker 1: We're gonna be down there tomorrow starting at six o'clock.
- 29:31Speaker 2: Might have a special co host as well to help
- 29:35Speaker 2: me help you through tomorrow's big event, Tomorrow's big day,
- 29:40Speaker 2: and then I think all of us are gonna be
- 29:42Speaker 2: broadcasting down there at Jimmy's on first, and I might
- 29:44Speaker 2: just day the whole day.
- 29:45Speaker 1: And I'm not even an exaggerating no.
- 29:47Speaker 3: I mean as you should. That's gonna be quite an experience.
- 29:49Speaker 2: Yeah, gonna say the whole day, listen to all the shows,
- 29:52Speaker 2: love it, make notes.
- 29:53Speaker 4: Yep, you know, yeah, tell them abou how they could
- 29:55Speaker 4: be better for nas.
- 29:56Speaker 1: Oh geez, why did you say that?
- 29:58Speaker 3: Why do you have such a Canadian accent sometimes.
- 30:00Speaker 2: When you say out yeah, and I won't show you
- 30:02Speaker 2: up there in the bar, No, I'll wait till after
- 30:06Speaker 2: you're over, Take you outside and chew your ass.
- 30:09Speaker 3: Yeah that's right, Or call you on your weekend when
- 30:11Speaker 3: you're not working right or over.
- 30:14Speaker 2: Maybe you can just set up a meeting for some time.
- 30:16Speaker 2: How about next Tuesday? To really fix you, I need.
- 30:20Speaker 3: You to come in on Saturday, right, I mean i'd
- 30:25Speaker 3: have to come in. Oh yeah, that's right.
- 30:27Speaker 1: All right, so we should be down there.
- 30:30Speaker 2: I would imagine that's going to happen, and then I'm
- 30:33Speaker 2: gonna roll it over into a baseball game tomorrow night.
- 30:35Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. Look at you, one last thing?
- 30:37Speaker 1: What do you got?
- 30:38Speaker 3: Well?
- 30:38Speaker 4: Speaking of baseball, Chuck, there was a very cool moment
- 30:41Speaker 4: yesterday at t Mobile Park, the Mariners and Brian Wu
- 30:45Speaker 4: invited a couple kids from Seattle Children's to come and
- 30:48Speaker 4: present Brian Wu with some cleats. So he had brought
- 30:53Speaker 4: the pairs of a couple pairs of his shoes to
- 30:56Speaker 4: Seattle Children's Hospital and let some of the patients there
- 30:59Speaker 4: decorate his shoes.
- 31:01Speaker 1: I think I did see this, yes.
- 31:03Speaker 4: One of the little girls, Charlotte, her and her family,
- 31:05Speaker 4: we know them. They're members at Mill Creek and so
- 31:08Speaker 4: I just thought it was very cool to get to
- 31:11Speaker 4: see Charlotte presenting her shoes to Brian Wu, and her
- 31:14Speaker 4: mom and dad were there, and she did a great
- 31:17Speaker 4: job on her splatter shoes.
- 31:19Speaker 2: And I'm hoping to see Jackson Pollock shoes Yep, I'm hoping.
- 31:22Speaker 3: You can't wait to see which ones he's wearing tonight
- 31:24Speaker 3: in the game.
- 31:25Speaker 1: He's wearing a onesie tonight?
- 31:26Speaker 3: Which shoes?
- 31:27Speaker 1: Okay? Yeap?
- 31:28Speaker 3: Which ones? Which shoes? And hopefully a onesie? Why not
- 31:32Speaker 3: spice it up?
- 31:33Speaker 1: Why not?
- 31:34Speaker 3: So? Yeah, it'll be really fun and just what a
- 31:36Speaker 3: neat project. That's fun.
- 31:37Speaker 4: It was something for the kids to do while they're
- 31:38Speaker 4: staying in the hospital and something they really enjoyed, so
- 31:41Speaker 4: I thought it was well done.
- 31:42Speaker 1: He was kind correct, he was kind heed.
- 31:45Speaker 4: Well, yep, and they took a lot of photos and
- 31:47Speaker 4: sat with the kids and very cool.
- 31:49Speaker 1: He really is a heart throb, yes he is.
- 31:53Speaker 4: On that note though, On the Brian Wo note, Julio
- 31:56Speaker 4: did an interview with Kay Adams.
- 31:57Speaker 3: I think it was uh huh no Mina Kimes and
- 32:00Speaker 3: she asks yes. She asked him which mariner would most
- 32:04Speaker 3: likely be on Love Island and his answer was Brian Wu.
- 32:07Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I guess I could see that.
- 32:10Speaker 3: Oh oh wooh, woo you two.
- 32:14Speaker 1: What will we do without Wu?
- 32:16Speaker 5: Nah?
- 32:17Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to bring up man. There was
- 32:20Speaker 1: something else I was gonna say off of.
- 32:22Speaker 2: Brian Oh the Wu Shane Boas matchup today Woo versus Boz.
- 32:27Speaker 2: I did check Alex Meyer's timeline, uh, and he has
- 32:31Speaker 2: not done the research on this, but I would suspect
- 32:33Speaker 2: Alex by opening pitch to know how many pitching matchups
- 32:37Speaker 2: in the history of baseball have featured two pitchers starting
- 32:40Speaker 2: pitchers whose last names have a combined six letters in them.
- 32:44Speaker 3: Yeah, I would like to know that too. I'd like
- 32:46Speaker 3: to have known it by now. But we'll give you.
- 32:47Speaker 3: We'll cut you some slack.
- 32:48Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, wake up mayor yeah.
- 32:51Speaker 3: Come on, you have other stuff to do other than
- 32:53Speaker 3: figure out the things we need to know.
- 32:55Speaker 1: Your life is passing you by.
- 32:57Speaker 3: We're just over here spitting ideas at you.
- 32:59Speaker 2: And I'll just conclude quickly with this as my true
- 33:02Speaker 2: one last thing. I think I have decided, and I
- 33:05Speaker 2: appreciate the feedback on what we should call the draft
- 33:09Speaker 2: month that we're getting ready for. I don't think I'm
- 33:12Speaker 2: going to go with Droune. I don't even think I'm
- 33:14Speaker 2: want to go with Draft of Palooza. Oh wow, I
- 33:16Speaker 2: think I'm going to go with the Draft Athlon.
- 33:19Speaker 3: Oh okay, we.
- 33:21Speaker 1: Got a draft athlon coming out.
- 33:23Speaker 3: I think that works.
- 33:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 33:25Speaker 3: So it's not a holiday, it's an event.
- 33:27Speaker 2: It's an event exactly. It's like stages of events. And
- 33:30Speaker 2: so yes, we've got three drafts in three weeks, big ones,
- 33:34Speaker 2: big ones. I mean, it's not draftness, but what is?
- 33:37Speaker 2: But we got three big drafts coming up in three weeks,
- 33:40Speaker 2: and we need a name for it. So I think
- 33:41Speaker 2: we're going to stage the first ever draft athlon starting Tuesday,
- 33:47Speaker 2: the NBA Draft all ones we should be interested in
- 33:50Speaker 2: By the way, the NBA Draft's going to be one
- 33:52Speaker 2: of the most interesting NBA drafts and quite some time.
- 33:54Speaker 2: We also have to practice and get ready for when
- 33:56Speaker 2: we do it again. Uh, the NHL draft could have
- 34:00Speaker 2: bunch of trades. We could be trading away our picks
- 34:02Speaker 2: just to get some players at MLB Draft. I mean,
- 34:05Speaker 2: that's really where the Mariners shine. They've done such a
- 34:08Speaker 2: great job drafting in the Jerry Depoto era. All Right,
- 34:11Speaker 2: that'll do it for us. Thanks for being with us.
- 34:12Speaker 2: We appreciate it. We'll talk to you tomorrow six am.
- 34:14Speaker 2: I would imagine from Jimmy's coming up next. You got yourself,
- 34:18Speaker 2: Greg Bell and Chris Kid.
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