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Sam Vanderpump: From Made in Chelsea to Surviving Sepsis · The BEYOND Podcast

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  Unknown: Today's guest is Sam Vanderpump, Auk reality TV star best known
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  for Made in Chelsea. But there's far more to him than
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  what you've seen on the screen. He has survived A terrifying
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  battle with sepsis. He's founded several businesses,
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  and he has a sharp, often underestimated business brain,
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  both in his personal and professional life.
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  He goes for what he wants and he does not hold back.
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  First of all, thank you so much for coming on Beyond the
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  Boardroom and We're very excited to have you here. 1st and most
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  important question, who is Sam Vanderpump?
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  Good question. Deep.
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  It's a deep one. Go deep.
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  Am I go? Who are you really?
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  You know what, it's actually an interesting question because
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  it's actually something I've only just realised recently in
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  the sense of when you do a reality TV show, it is such a
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  small snippet of your life and it is such a surface level
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  conversation and people really don't know who you are.
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  I would say people who really know me would know that I'm a
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  serial entrepreneur. I've worked in the same line of
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  industry for the last 10 years of my life and that's all I've
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  ever done. The whole reality side and the
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  public side of my life has only come around over the last year.
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  And you know what's really interesting is following on from
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  that, you see a lot of comments online in regards to who they
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  think you are. Yeah, so inaccurate.
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  Who? Do they think you are?
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  I do like to have a joke and I am not serious at times and that
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  that that side comes across in my social life.
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  But you know, I take everything with a pinch of socks.
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  I'm very, very light hearted. It's very hard to offend me.
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  But that's a. Good thing it's a good.
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  Thing but people sort of, you know, twist it and take it the
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  wrong way and, you know, turn it all against you.
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  But it's interesting to, they see that side of me and they
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  think that that's it. And they, they, you know what,
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  there's some really good comments.
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  I mean, sometimes I see stuff like that was sent to me and
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  it's obviously there's this stigma when you go on Made in
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  Chelsea, you know, it's to do with wealth and people from
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  coming from affluent families. Yeah, definitely.
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  So something that keeps on coming up on the line and it's,
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  and it's really funny how to see there is 2 completely different
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  perceptions, all from the very, very small snippets of people
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  what they've seen in my life. And one perception is, you know,
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  someone called me common the other day, which was like, OK,
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  you're. So not common.
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  I mean I can understand. Maybe I do I I like to believe
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  I'm well spoken. I did elocution lessons as young
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  when I was younger. So well spoken.
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  But there is certain things that I slip up on, you know, I, I did
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  live in Essex for a little bit. So my, my, my pronunciation of
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  some words can slack. But then there's the other side
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  where it's like, oh, they, they just because my last name
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  Vanderpump, my auntie. And then, like, someone comments
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  online, oh, you know, he's worth his aunt's worth 57 million.
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  Well, like, what's that got to do with me?
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  And then there, there's a new article that's floating around
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  which says I bought my fiance A7 figure engagement ring.
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  And I was literally, it reminded me of the Lewis Capaldi snippet
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  on Snapchat where he goes, if the tax man sees this, I'm
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  fucked. Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry for my.
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  Friends. No, that's OK.
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  I'm thinking when I'm reading that article of the tax Max man
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  sees that I'm fucked. Because.
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  You know there is no 77 figure ring.
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  Did it? Did it upset you?
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  Annoy you? How did you feel when when
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  someone said your comment? And I absolutely don't agree
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  with that, by the way. I think it's a ridiculous thing
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  to say. I just think it's all rather
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  comical because it's so clear how little people know.
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  So when you see things like, you know, firstly there's a headline
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  which says 7 figure ring, and then there's these people who
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  are passing judgement like, oh, first some people go, Oh yeah,
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  he can't afford that. It's like, OK, well, to be fair,
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  I can't afford a bigger ring. I mean, I'm very proud of the
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  ring I brought my fiance. But it's very interesting to see
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  people who pass a comment like that and then someone else
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  chimes over a comment. Well, his aunt's worth 57
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  million, which again, is probably an inaccurate figure, I
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  guess. She's very, very wealthy, my
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  aunt. But again, what Auntie just
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  gives you £1,000,000 to buy Auntie Ring?
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  It's, it's just all a bit ridiculous.
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  So I just find it all very comical from everything from
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  this, from the idea that at one end of the spectrum I'm a I'm
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  common and then to the other end of the spectrum, which is I'm my
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  auntie is a multi multi millionaire.
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  You've got it all. And there we go.
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  I must be just given 7 figures to go buy my fiance a ring,
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  which is. People will make those
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  assumptions and it's good to have you on the podcast to
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  clarify. Something we're going to.
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  Clarify not the question Who is Sam Vanderpump?
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  I think I've just kind of gone. It's funny to see all the
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  different misconceptions of Sam Vanderpump and I.
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  I am. I am I am a serial entrepreneur.
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  I am very invested in my business.
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  I'm very light hearted. I I'm not easily offended.
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  Anyone can say whatever they like online and I probably
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  think. You've got pretty good values
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  too. Yeah, I'm trying to believe so I
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  like, I quite like. I'm very.
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  Loyal. If I've got a friendship or I've
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  got a relationship, I'm I'm the most loyal person ever.
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  I really do believe that and I hold myself to my values because
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  what are we if we're not living by our own morals and our own
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  values? So I like to believe I'm loyal,
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  I'm a good friend. I I'd like to believe I'm tell
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  the truth, and so much so to my own detriment, so some people
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  say. You get yourself into trouble,
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  I. I just get so excited and
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  honestly, I just get really excited in this situation.
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  Then I forget what can't be said.
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  So if someone tells you a secret, and yeah, I don't
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  necessarily mean it out of any malice or anything like that.
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  It's more to do with just the fact I'm.
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  I'm very excitable and if I'm excited, everything pours out.
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  And I did. You get a lot of stick because
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  some of the viewers watching won't wouldn't have watched
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  their Made in Chelsea episode reality TV show for anyone.
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  But there was an instance where you did, you know, tell people a
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  secret, one of your friends, and you meant it in good faith.
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  But did you get into a lot of trouble for that?
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  Multiple occasions, but people who know me would know that if I
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  was you. Didn't mean harm.
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  There was no harm by it. If anything, it was just to help
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  a situation. Yeah.
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  So yes, it has got me into trouble in the real world, in my
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  real life, for sure. Me having no filter has got me
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  into trouble. There was a another podcast
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  where my aunt had told me a secret and I kind of let that my
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  loose lips let that spilled and it wasn't a sense of I'm going
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  to try and tell a secret. It was.
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  I was easily excitable. However, I'm very, very good at
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  keeping secrets now. Yes, but but it's really
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  important whether you said it in good faith or not, I mean, and
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  people can tell if you don't mean harm and you're just
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  innocent, you wear your heart on your sleeve and you're just
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  speaking normally and you trust. Speaking my truth.
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  Exactly. And you trust that people will
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  take it in the same me well meaning way, but they don't
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  always. Yeah, I mean.
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  That's the danger. I think that's you just don't
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  know what the third party will do with it.
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  Yeah, I mean, that's that's the problem.
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  I mean, I, I love doing a made in Chelsea.
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  I really do. I I, I love being on camera.
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  I love the idea of presenting. I love doing social media.
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  I find it fun. Yeah, but with that comes a lot
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  of misconceptions and reality TV does come with that.
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  It's not like when you're being an actor or you're entering a
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  new role on on camera. You're trying to portray
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  yourself, but at the same time you've got to make the TV
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  entertaining for your audience. It's.
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  Also part of your job. So people have to bear that in
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  mind that it is all of these situations are blown up, are
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  made more dramatic. Oh, they most certainly are.
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  You're you're being put in in it.
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  OK, so for people watching that don't know, tell us who your
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  aunt is. So my aunt, it's like a second
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  dad to me. I lost my dad, went about 10
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  years ago. Sorry to hear.
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  That that's so sad. But everything happens for a
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  reason, and I'm extremely close to my aunt.
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  And yeah, she's Lisa Vanderpump. Some call her the queen of
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  reality TV. She's been on The Real
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  Housewives of Beverly Hills. She's got her own TV shows,
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  Vanderpump Villa and Vanderpump Rules.
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  And she is. Loves dogs.
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  She loves dogs and she is a fantastic businesswoman and a
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  philanthropist, so she she really is quite an amazing woman
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  and if I end up being just 1/4 of the person that she is, then
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  I've done well. So she's good inspiration.
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  Did she what? What advice did she give you
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  about reality TV? What's the main thing that was
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  she was she worried about you stepping into?
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  Of course she was worried. Yeah, because she knows how
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  detrimental. She knows how it can go against
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  you. It can be toxic, it can be
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  detrimental. So she was like, she's kind of
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  turned around to me as like, you're a well established
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  businessman, you've got your business, how are you doing it?
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  And she kind of gave me that. And I said, well, because I want
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  to do it. I want to enjoy it.
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  So it's something I always want to do.
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  I don't enjoy my businesses. She went OK fine go do it and
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  then lately she's been giving me advice on how to make it to my
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  benefit. She went why are you still doing
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  it? And I I explained to her why I
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  do it and why. So how long have you been doing
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  it for? Sorry, just two, two years.
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  OK, that's a decent that that's the time this.
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  Is coming to the end of the second year OK Yeah.
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  So this will be like the end of my 4th.
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  This is I'm going into my 4th season of Maiden Chelsea.
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  Right, so she says to you, why are you still doing it and what
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  do you say? And I said, because I still
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  enjoy it. And she turned around to me and
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  she went, right, that's, that's absolutely fine.
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  But that will fade. How are you going to use this to
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  your advantage? And, you know, we sat there over
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  when I was last in LA just a few months ago.
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  And we sat there and, and she really opened up my mind into
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  understanding the benefits and how to take action.
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  And I, I, I came back with such a plan in my head.
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  It was, it was really interesting, the advice.
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  It's one of those things that's quite hard to hear because it's,
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  it's quite intense advice in the sense of critical, but it's,
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  it's constructive criticism in the sense of right, you, that's
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  fine. You're doing this, but you're,
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  you're kind of doing this wrong. And if you want to keep doing
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  it, make sure you're using it to your advantage.
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  So at first it's quite hard to hear, but then you take it in
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  your, you know, in your esteem, whatever.
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  Proper advice. It's proper advice.
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  And it and it worked. I mean, I can't believe how much
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  it's worked. And I won't go into the depths
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  of how it's worked because there's a lot that I've got to
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  yeah. And I'm working on at the moment
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  that I'm revealing. She's giving you assignment.
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  It's like that's why it's hard because she's not giving you the
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  easy life. Oh, just kick back.
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  Yeah, you love it. Oh, well done.
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  You're enjoying yourself. I mean, she's not.
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  She's trying to get the best side of you and going well.
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  OK, literally. Here's some work for you to.
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  Always says it to me. She's just go.
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  She goes because she's very critical, but constructive.
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  In a good way, she's. In a great way, in a fantastic
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  way. She's an amazing person and you
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  if you watch ATV shows, you'll see on ATV shows how she does
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  the same very stuff and that is her.
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  She is that amazing and she's there to help people and and
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  especially me and it is fantastic to have that.
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  And it is hard to hear, but I am very lucky.
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  OK, so how did you get on Made in Chelsea?
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  Did they see you in the street and go?
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  No. So when I was 1819, I was
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  working in the City and I was looking for a place to live and
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  I ended up moving into Chelsea, Fulham area.
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  And around that there is this kind of social clicking, say
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  social group, social friendship. Everyone knows each other in
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  their in their 20s, early 30s, everyone aspiring to do better
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  and work. And yeah, and all of a sudden
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  you get mixed into this very, very social group.
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  Yes, everyone knows everyone. And yeah, after I was asked to
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  be on Made in Chelsea when I was 21, when I was 25 or 26.
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  And then there was only the third time that I finally
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  actually said yes. And I'm very happy I've done it.
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  Yeah, there is. There are some elements of me.
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  It just goes now I'm doing it. I wish I'd done it earlier, but
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  I'm a big believer in everything happens for a reason and, you
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  know, fate. And so I believe the time
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  wasn't, it wasn't right then and it is right now and it and it's
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  worked out well and I'm really enjoying it.
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  OK. What do you like about it?
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  It's the main thing, Paul. Is it the the production side
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  that it's the production? Side I went to theatre school
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  when I was for about two or three years the same as my
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  auntie went to the same theatre school, funny enough.
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  And I always I wanted to be a racing driver when I was very
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  young, I did go karting, raced cars etcetera.
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  And then after that ended because my parents could no
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  longer financially afford for me to keep going in that direction
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  because I was becoming stupid and stupid money.
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  I mean, there are Formula One drivers out there now that I
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  used to race against that were spending stupid money to get to.
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  Oh yeah. But that's a whole different
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  topic. So after that, I was, what do I
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  want to do? So I wanted to go to theatre, I
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  wanted to become an actor. And for certain reasons that
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  didn't work out. But I always had that dream.
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  And then all of a sudden the opportunity entered to be on
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  camera and to be in that kind of situation.
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  And I thought this is an amazing opportunity to firstly do it and
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  for the doors it could lead to. So I enjoy being on camera.
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  I enjoy that kind of. Reality I like.
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  It's a buzz. Yeah, it's a buzz for me.
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  What do you dislike about it really?
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  The misconceptions and I think anyone who does reality.
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  So what the public land up thinking really because of the
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  way something's shown or because the way that they what?
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  What is it that's annoying? I can't say too much because
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  I've got yeah. OK, OK, yeah, don't say too
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  much, just say enough. So I it's, it's more to the
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  misconceptions of what public, the public can get right.
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  So people have to remember is when you really analyse the
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  show, it's normally a 3 minute scene, maybe less.
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  Firstly, we've been sitting there for two hours.
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  Of course there's a lot more that's said, but they have to
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  cut it and make it snappy and make it juicy and juicy for the.
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  TV show. People seem to forget that when
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  they're watching the show. And then it makes you look.
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  Imagine we sit here for two hours.
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  Yeah. And I say I'm talking for two
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  hours about, let's say, my auntie.
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  Yeah. But then I say, oh, but she's
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  harsh on me or she's critical of me.
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  Imagine how that snippet can be taken out of context.
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  Now I've I think my aunt is most fantastic woman ever, but that
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  one line could be. Oh, it could be, especially if
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  you put the right music with it. Exactly.
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  Put to the PR, right? I'm giving you ideas now.
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  Yeah, no, we're not interested. In a sudden, yeah, yeah, there's
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  a line. There.
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  No, I get it. I'm sorry with you.
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  That's one thing that I I not struggle with because I find it
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  funny and it's hard. And I know my friends and my
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  family, they know the real Sam. So that's that's all that
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  matters. But but it's like you feel
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  slightly false accused. You feel like, well hang on,
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  that's not what I meant. That's not what being very
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  fortunate right in the last so many seasons.
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  I believe it showed a very good conception of me.
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  I'm I'm light hearted. I I'm quite jovial.
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  I'm I don't take anything too seriously.
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  I've got my morals. The one side where I don't like
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  is it hasn't showed the entrepreneurial side of myself
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  the the businessman that I am. Because that's the different the
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  brand that much. Exactly.
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  So it's not showed that that side of me.
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  But then on the last season I would say I didn't like the
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  misconceptions which started to come.
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  About yeah, but I mean, imagine for people like like us
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  apprentice ex apprentice guy where they make you look
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  deliberately like oh come on, you're so thick.
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  Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean imagine you've got this.
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  You had I, I actually know someone who went on The
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  Apprentice as well and she told me it was, it's brutal.
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  It was crazy. I mean, they used to run in at
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  4:00 AM, tell you to get ready in 10 minutes.
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  Oh yeah, it's deliberately stressed and strange.
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  Stress you out, but. We don't get to go home.
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  You see, this is the thing I feel like for you guys, I mean,
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  I was going to ask you about the schedule of mentors.
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  You can actually get to go home and then have this, eat your
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  food, go to the gym, work out and then you go in for me.
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  But imagine you didn't and it was all like essentialised and
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  you get trapped and you can't and there's all that going on.
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  It's different. Now that is a good point.
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  Now people walk away from scenes they get to recompose.
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  Yes. But there's also a disadvantage,
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  OK, because people know what's happened in that scene.
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  They go away, they think about it and they think about what
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  they're going to say for the next.
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  Scene. Yeah, it's like, it's like a
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  cold drop. You throw spiders in there and
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  you prepare for the battle. And.
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  Manipulate people. Nail on the head where in The
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  Apprentice it's way more people make more drama to get more
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  airtime I it can be a really toxic environment.
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  You understand why? Why I mean, Anyway, won't go
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  into that, but the. Not go into it.
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  Well, you can understand why. OK, let's let's talk about Love
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  Island so I don't get in trouble.
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  You can understand why Love Island have in house therapists
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  and why a lot of reality shows. And actually this isn't limited
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  to reality shows. The moment you do something on
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  ATV show or a radio show nowadays with these corporate
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  companies, they've got a responsibility to make sure you
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  talking about that doesn't affect you.
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  So straight after doing this is new shows.
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  By the way, this is new stuff I would.
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  Yeah, well, exactly. This is changed very recently
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  and it's actually changed since a lot of people have been taking
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  their own lives in the reality TV sector because they couldn't
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  deal with the onslaught and especially the reality show
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  because it doesn't happen so much for actors, presenters,
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  because they're portraying. Someone else?
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  Exactly. But when reality stars portray
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  themselves and then all of a sudden you've got people
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  commenting on that and people read those comments and then
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  they end up taking them. Online.
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  So there's a there's a responsibility by these big
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  organisations now to give you these in house therapists to
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  make sure that. You need to also develop thick
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  skin if you're going to carry on in the business like you've been
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  now two years. You need to grow your thickest
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  skin and learn to deal with all the stuff that comes with it
• 18:53
  because it's part of the package.
• 18:54
  So you've got to toughen up as time goes by.
• 18:56
  I'm sure you aren't you morph into someone, hopefully if
• 19:00
  you're going to stick with it into someone that's a little bit
• 19:03
  more resilient to to what this kind of thing can throw at you
• 19:06
  because it's not always nice. It can be, but it's not always.
• 19:08
  Even myself and I believe I've got very thick skin.
• 19:13
  I am emotional, but I don't think I would ever get emotional
• 19:17
  at someone who I've never met before comments and I don't
• 19:21
  think I would and I haven't. And people go to me on online.
• 19:26
  Oh, you care so much because you're replying?
• 19:28
  No, I'm replying because their comments make me laugh and I
• 19:31
  just enjoy it, right? So people give me negative
• 19:34
  comments and I just reply, right?
• 19:36
  I can see it all. I reply to the comments on my
• 19:38
  social media and when people go, Oh my God, you care so much
• 19:42
  you're replying. I went what?
• 19:43
  I care because I'm replying to a comment on my social media.
• 19:46
  On your own page. You're the one with who's
• 19:49
  putting all this energy to go into someone's Instagram page.
• 19:52
  They. Find you.
• 19:53
  Don't know. You've never met before.
• 19:55
  You've seen a snippet for two minutes on some TV show.
• 19:59
  Yeah. You're putting all your energy
• 20:01
  of that evening to comment on my social media, and yet you're
• 20:03
  turning around to me and going, oh, you care so much.
• 20:06
  Well, it's my my. They they, they feeding your,
• 20:10
  they're feeding your Instagram. That kind of person really
• 20:13
  doesn't bother. Do do you watch Dubai Bling?
• 20:15
  Have you ever watched it? No, I've heard a lot about the.
• 20:18
  You have to watch it and there's a guy called Ibrahim Al Samadi.
• 20:21
  He's like a massive character on he's extremely funny and
• 20:24
  whatever. But yeah, he absolutely loves
• 20:27
  the trolls. He he adores the comments.
• 20:30
  I think he he says he needs them.
• 20:31
  We all need. We all need.
• 20:33
  Yeah, I think. It's essential.
• 20:35
  To be honest, for life it is the funniest part about trolls is
• 20:39
  the more they're the ones who comment the.
• 20:41
  Most Oh, they're brilliant. They're.
• 20:42
  The ones who comment the most, they're the ones who engage with
• 20:44
  your posts and they're the ones who send your posts viral.
• 20:46
  They post like you. You know what, you engage with
• 20:49
  me more. And if you engage back with them
• 20:51
  and you create all this drama on your social media within reason
• 20:54
  and composing yourself still yes, then all of a sudden your
• 20:59
  page has got so much your your post has got so much engagement
• 21:02
  and it goes viral. And you know the trolls of have
• 21:05
  paid your bills. No, they haven't.
• 21:06
  For sure who's got the last laugh, the the troll who's got
• 21:09
  his comments out or the person who's been paid off of the
• 21:12
  troll? So just a little bit more maybe
• 21:14
  Chelsea, we're going to move on from this.
• 21:16
  People want to know who'd you like, who do you not like?
• 21:19
  Can you say that? I can I I can said a bit.
• 21:23
  Really. What?
• 21:23
  I don't know, Maybe it's a bit rude to say.
• 21:24
  I'm not gonna say no. Yeah, I think if you watch the
• 21:27
  show, you will. If you're, you'll know I'll.
• 21:29
  Reframe The Who you don't like, but just tell me who you like
• 21:31
  then. Yeah, Who's your favorite?
• 21:32
  Who I like. And if you watch the show,
• 21:34
  you'll know who I don't like 'cause that's very clear.
• 21:36
  Yeah. And and then that is all truth,
• 21:38
  right? You know, if if I'm saying on
• 21:40
  the I, I do believe, although things are taken out of context,
• 21:44
  I would everything I've said, I have said I'll take
• 21:46
  responsibility for that. In regards to who I like Rez,
• 21:50
  I've known Rez since I've. Been good buddies.
• 21:52
  I've I've since I've been 18. He's a good friend.
• 21:55
  He is a very good friend. I'll always love Rez on the
• 21:58
  show. You know who I love?
• 21:59
  I love Freddy. He's a child, but he's a child.
• 22:04
  But I just love him. He's so funny.
• 22:06
  He's so, he's so real. He he's just a child in a man's
• 22:11
  body. I love him to pieces.
• 22:13
  I love Becks. She's sweet.
• 22:15
  She's innocent. She and Alice and I, my fiance
• 22:20
  and I, yes, we we actually sit there the other day and we just
• 22:23
  love sweet people. Becks is one of those really
• 22:26
  sweet characters. And Yaz, too.
• 22:28
  Yaz as well. Sweet, sweet girl.
• 22:30
  Yeah. I I would say they're our
• 22:32
  favorite people on the show. OK, Yeah.
• 22:34
  Raise Becks, Yaz and I'll always love Rez.
• 22:38
  So when we spoke about things that you like people, you said
• 22:41
  loyalty is really important to you.
• 22:42
  What else is really, really important to you?
• 22:44
  What are the values that you look for in people, friends and
• 22:48
  who you work with? What value is?
• 22:50
  Important I just anyone who's honest, anyone is loyal and
• 22:54
  anyone just got a sweetheart, that's all I really.
• 22:56
  Honestly is really big. Trust is a huge thing.
• 22:59
  Yeah, I mean, if you can't trust your friend, they're not a
• 23:02
  friend. I mean, it's as.
• 23:04
  Simple as that. I I had a podcast with a
• 23:06
  professor of evolutionary science of Human behaviour and
• 23:09
  Oxford professor. Terribly advanced and all that
• 23:11
  stuff. And he said the number one
• 23:13
  reason relationship breaks up is lack of trust.
• 23:17
  It's a breach of trust. That's it.
• 23:19
  That's so important. Which makes me laugh because of
• 23:24
  all the relationships I've seen on Made in Chelsea and a lot, a
• 23:27
  lot of them, I've seen, a lot of them can't trust each other.
• 23:31
  And they will in the sense of they will discuss things on
• 23:36
  camera with friends. And I find that unbelievable.
• 23:39
  Alice and I prioritize ourselves before anything else, right?
• 23:45
  I prioritize her before anything else.
• 23:47
  She's everything else comes second.
• 23:49
  My lady, I'm her man. We prioritize each other and I
• 23:53
  don't think you'll ever, I could pretty much swear to this.
• 23:56
  I don't think you'll ever see a situation on a reality TV show
• 24:01
  where we have I will argue or we would let any of our personal
• 24:08
  issues come to light. In my opinion for.
• 24:09
  Entertainment. The only time that they would
• 24:11
  come to light is if anyone that we thought we could trust had
• 24:16
  done something wrong. But at the moment I I don't see
• 24:19
  a situation where Alice and I could possibly have a drama on
• 24:23
  the TV show because we wouldn't let that happen.
• 24:26
  Not that we, we've gotten incredibly fantastic
• 24:30
  relationship. It's not, I've been in toxic
• 24:32
  relationships before. It's not that it's so
• 24:35
  constructive. It's so honest with each other.
• 24:40
  We, we, we communicate so well and there's real love there.
• 24:44
  So we're very, very lucky that's the, we've got the foundations
• 24:47
  to a fantastic relationship, but then we have the intelligence to
• 24:51
  build on that to make sure nothing gets in the way of.
• 24:54
  That can I, can I just say hearing you speak, I worry in
• 24:57
  the sense that obviously you're in there Made in Chelsea
• 24:59
  environment where you're in the business of people throwing each
• 25:04
  other under the bus for entertainment.
• 25:05
  Let's just be really clear that that is part of the thing that
• 25:08
  goes on and it's fun or whatever.
• 25:09
  But there is the element to have drama.
• 25:12
  You get featured, you get featured, you get benefits,
• 25:14
  right? So when you've got something
• 25:16
  precious like your relationship and it's there, it's always
• 25:20
  going to be a risk that someone, it can be just a, a lie, it can
• 25:24
  be a total fabricated lie, but that it's almost like prepare
• 25:28
  for it because it's coming. It's.
• 25:30
  Coming OK, I'm just going to give, I hear the advice.
• 25:34
  I was actually in that scene because I lived in Battersea and
• 25:36
  we kind of hung around together and it's just, it's a young
• 25:38
  life, isn't it? It's like going out with your
• 25:40
  mates and everything. And when you do meet someone,
• 25:43
  there's people and it's like a real relationship.
• 25:44
  There will be people that are. You're not jealous of that.
• 25:46
  Of course. I mean, yeah.
• 25:52
  And I have found each other's person.
• 25:55
  We're we're getting married. We're planning a wedding.
• 25:58
  Let's talk about this. So how old are you?
• 26:00
  I'm 28. You're 28, you found the love of
• 26:03
  your life and you proposed in, in in what, 6 months?
• 26:07
  And that's totally cool. But you're getting a lot of
• 26:10
  stick for that. Yeah, a lot.
• 26:12
  I mean, this is funny, I you say a lot, but but what I have found
• 26:18
  is the people who comment are the ones are the trolls, right?
• 26:21
  The people who engage with you, the people who give the comments
• 26:24
  online, they're the ones who normally like to attack.
• 26:28
  So and it doesn't reflect the people who are commenting
• 26:32
  doesn't really reflect the overwhelming feel of the of the
• 26:36
  audience. Because think about it, and I'll
• 26:39
  say this to the people listening, is everyone listening
• 26:43
  at home who has a positive thing to say?
• 26:45
  Are you the type of person who goes on a 28 year old man's or a
• 26:49
  23 year old girls Instagram and comments and nasty comments?
• 26:55
  No, you're probably not. So that type of person who even
• 27:00
  even if it's a nice comment, you've got to be a very
• 27:02
  particular type of person to go out of your way, especially if
• 27:06
  you're over the age of 30, forties, fifties, 60s, to be
• 27:09
  commenting negative comments on a 23 year old girl's Instagram.
• 27:15
  It's a very strange. It's a very strange kind of.
• 27:17
  Person, but let's just let's just re establish something here
• 27:20
  whilst we're speaking to a wider audience.
• 27:24
  It's brilliant that you proposed and that you thought this is the
• 27:30
  woman for me. I love this, this person.
• 27:33
  I want this partner and I'm going to go for it.
• 27:35
  It's just how it should be. Why does it ideally?
• 27:39
  Why do you have to wait? We have to wait approximately 2
• 27:41
  years and six months before we can get what is all that.
• 27:43
  To be honest, garbage. Forget.
• 27:46
  It I think it's people. The people who say a negative
• 27:49
  comment are the ones who are jealous.
• 27:50
  Yeah. And it's an old fashioned saying
• 27:53
  that you say that your mum would say to you.
• 27:55
  They're just that jealous, darling.
• 27:56
  They're jealous, but it's true. Right.
• 27:58
  They see something wrong in themselves.
• 28:00
  They worry like what about me? Why hasn't happened for me.
• 28:02
  So it's a worry from within them.
• 28:04
  They they insecure something. Something's not quite right
• 28:07
  there. One thing I would say is the
• 28:08
  comments online normally tend to be the negative things, the
• 28:12
  small percentage, No, but hear this right?
• 28:15
  That's the norm. Yeah.
• 28:16
  But even in this situation, it was seen as like there were some
• 28:20
  people that said some negative things online in on the show.
• 28:24
  But the overwhelming support, I mean, there's a post that we
• 28:27
  did, someone put something on a podcast we did like a kind of a
• 28:30
  stitching, a joke, a reply. Yeah, it got million views.
• 28:35
  And I would say 90% of the comments were like, my parents
• 28:38
  got married, They're happy. Married totally.
• 28:40
  I got married when here after three days or whatever everyone
• 28:44
  put in their experience and saying how happily married they
• 28:46
  are. I the support on that was
• 28:48
  overwhelming. Listen, when you know, you know,
• 28:51
  yeah. 100% I mean, I I was in other relationships for three
• 28:56
  years, five years, two years and I always knew I wanted to get
• 29:00
  married, but they were never the right people.
• 29:03
  The moment I found my right person, it wasn't about time, it
• 29:08
  was let's let's I know it's the right person, why would I waste
• 29:12
  time? It's it's a beautiful level of
• 29:13
  emotional maturity that you've got because and and bravery,
• 29:17
  because you've got to have the guts be able to go for stuff.
• 29:19
  You go right. I really, and that's the same in
• 29:20
  business as we'll talk about. It's like you go for the things
• 29:23
  that you know, you know it's right.
• 29:25
  So why would you hold back that that's a disaster.
• 29:27
  That's a risk. Someone's going to snap her up
• 29:30
  that Alice was saying Take her I, I think.
• 29:32
  I think everyone who's met Alice is they go understand why you so
• 29:36
  quickly. And you can tell you guys
• 29:38
  because. Her personality, she is
• 29:40
  stunningly beautiful, but her personality is just someone.
• 29:44
  I could put her in a room with my school friends, yeah.
• 29:46
  Or I can put her in a room with my auntie.
• 29:48
  I can put her in a room with my mum.
• 29:51
  I can put her in a room with anyone.
• 29:53
  And they all love her. You can also put her in a in a
• 29:56
  tank with sharks like I made in Chelsea and she can stick up for
• 29:59
  herself which. Is she's very upset about the
• 30:01
  maid in Chelsea she didn't like across?
• 30:04
  Very well. Yeah, we we she didn't like the
• 30:06
  way she came across which and we didn't feel like it reflected
• 30:10
  the sweetness of herself and she is just such an amazing.
• 30:15
  Yeah, but you also don't want she's, she's amazing and
• 30:17
  everything. But someone got called Vanilla
• 30:19
  on the show, which is is sad or whatever.
• 30:20
  But with Alice you can see, yes, she's amazing, all that stuff.
• 30:22
  But it's also amazing to be able to, when you are thrown in a
• 30:25
  shock tank and there are some shocks in it you can actually
• 30:28
  stand up with. That is admirable.
• 30:30
  She should be proud of that. It's OK to do that, you know,
• 30:33
  And you've got a bit of spicy. I think when good, it's her
• 30:35
  first season of doing reality TV.
• 30:37
  She's done really well. It's gonna be, I mean, even I
• 30:39
  struggled my first season totally.
• 30:41
  The first time you see yourself on ATV show and in your first
• 30:45
  time you see negative, yeah, hard.
• 30:48
  It's hard to deal with. You've got to be very strong to
• 30:50
  deal with that. But but let's, let's talk about
• 30:52
  this. There's more to Alice than you
• 30:54
  know. She's a fiance.
• 30:56
  She was on. She's on TV with you.
• 30:58
  She's great and all that stuff. She saved your life.
• 31:01
  OK, so you had sepsis and it was awful and it's in the newspapers
• 31:06
  and everything. I would like you to talk to us
• 31:10
  and tell us what happened, OK, and how she saved your life
• 31:14
  because that's incredible. She literally saved your life.
• 31:18
  Yeah, it's amazing. And so let's paint the picture
• 31:21
  right going into November, December time to everyone who
• 31:27
  knows me to I was perfectly healthy cycling 20 kilometres a
• 31:32
  day. Wow.
• 31:33
  You know, I, I, I love my fitness and I love, you know, I
• 31:37
  go through ups and downs of my fitness, but I love it.
• 31:39
  And I was in a moment. Working out Very very.
• 31:41
  Fit and I had this irrelevant to me and pretty much everyone you
• 31:48
  know something I got checked up for pre-existing condition but
• 31:51
  it was never a thing you're. Still healthy?
• 31:54
  You're doing your gym, you're young.
• 31:56
  Guy, I was to everyone, perfectly healthy.
• 31:59
  Then all of a sudden, very early December I got the flu and I
• 32:03
  just couldn't shake it. Then I got an asthma attack on
• 32:06
  the back. I've got my asthma as well, got
• 32:08
  an asthma attack on the back of it.
• 32:09
  So I was hospitalised for the flu and hospitalised for your
• 32:12
  asthma attack. Literally hospitalised,
• 32:14
  sometimes hospitalised just because I couldn't get my
• 32:16
  breathing under control. But one overnight stay let out
• 32:20
  back to normal. But there was something not I
• 32:22
  was not feeling right, but just like.
• 32:25
  When you're tired. Just when you have the flu, just
• 32:28
  aches, pain, yeah, just not feeling back to 100% just like
• 32:32
  if you'd had the flu or a cold maybe times 5.
• 32:36
  And for some reason I was not getting back to 100% and all of
• 32:41
  a sudden it just I would have this back pain this and I
• 32:45
  remember this back pain being so bad that my housemate having to
• 32:50
  massage me so much like I was in so much just.
• 32:53
  A random back pain. No, it's actually a specific
• 32:55
  pinpoint back pain, which if we now know, if we knew then we
• 33:01
  know now. I would have been in hospital
• 33:03
  straight away. Where is the back pain?
• 33:05
  Just tell us so we all know. Well, for me it's right in the
• 33:07
  shoulder blade, so it's. Right.
• 33:09
  OK, so like a like a needle like pain or?
• 33:11
  So basically I'll I'll get to that in a minute, but it's this
• 33:14
  pain in the shoulder blade and basically what it is, it's the
• 33:17
  pressure on the nerve that's coming up from somewhere else.
• 33:21
  So I had that was the first sign this pain in the shoulder blade
• 33:25
  that wouldn't go. And then I'm getting worse in
• 33:28
  flu like symptoms just like got no energy, I've got a
• 33:32
  temperature at times a bit breathless.
• 33:35
  And then it comes to, I would like to say the 14th of
• 33:40
  December, which I believe is a Saturday, I might be out one of.
• 33:45
  I wouldn't know. So I believe it's 14th December,
• 33:48
  Saturday or 13th December and Friday we go to Selfridges to do
• 33:52
  our Christmas shopping. I was carrying around my glass
• 33:54
  of water and on my bottle of water and I couldn't keep myself
• 34:00
  quench my my thirst quenched so I kept on drinking it.
• 34:04
  But after an hour I drunk a litre of water and I turned
• 34:09
  around to Alice and I went. I need to go home.
• 34:12
  I just can't quench my first thirst and I, I feel really
• 34:16
  exhausted. I don't feel right.
• 34:18
  So we just stopped our Christmas shopping.
• 34:20
  I was even buying another friend.
• 34:21
  Did you? Have a fever?
• 34:23
  I wasn't really sure. I was becoming a little bit
• 34:25
  delirious at this point and we weren't checking the signs.
• 34:29
  We just knew I was struggling. Everyone said it was the asthma
• 34:32
  probably or what not. And you know, we'd been in that
• 34:35
  of hospitals. No one could really pinpoint
• 34:37
  what was going on at this. Point.
• 34:38
  Nothing determined. No, so I just got home, went to
• 34:42
  bed and I'm meant to be going to Dubai on Monday I believe for
• 34:48
  business, which would have been the 16th of December.
• 34:50
  Booked my flight and everything. The pressure's there.
• 34:53
  Pressure. We watched a movie.
• 34:55
  I didn't move from bed all night.
• 34:58
  All day Sunday I did not move from bed.
• 35:00
  OK. And.
• 35:01
  I'm a bit delirious now. It's getting a little bit worse
• 35:03
  and I must have had a temperature.
• 35:05
  I was exhausted. I didn't move from bed.
• 35:06
  I'm delirious. Did you eat anything?
• 35:08
  My lip, No, not really my I don't remember Now most of this
• 35:13
  OK, I'm just this is just what I can recollect from photos, what
• 35:18
  people have told me. OK, so you're really?
• 35:21
  Starting from that Friday, I went from, I remember that and
• 35:26
  it went, it just deteriorated really fast, really quickly to
• 35:30
  the point on Monday morning Alice had to go to work and I
• 35:34
  was taking care of my brother's dog and she goes to me.
• 35:37
  You've got to walk the dog and you've got to, you know, get
• 35:40
  your bagpack. You're leaving for Dubai in six
• 35:42
  hours. And she's thinking.
• 35:44
  She's looking at me, but she's got to go to work and she's
• 35:47
  going. There's something wrong here.
• 35:48
  She comes back. I haven't moved.
• 35:50
  Dog's not been walked. Bearing in mind though, this is
• 35:53
  my brother's dog. We've been taken care of, Dog
• 35:55
  has not moved. I think one of my friends came
• 35:57
  round and actually took him out for a walk.
• 35:59
  And I have not moved from the bed, no, my lips are dried and
• 36:02
  there's actually a photo of me in my dressing gown.
• 36:04
  So I'd got into the shower but I got out of the shower and just
• 36:07
  laid in the bed and she took a photo of me and she said to my
• 36:10
  mum, she went and she called my mum off FaceTime.
• 36:13
  My mum, again, I don't remember any of this and I think she put
• 36:16
  my mum on FaceTime in front of my face.
• 36:19
  I don't remember a single thing. Apparently I started to make
• 36:22
  sense then. So then they thought that I went
• 36:23
  from and I was taking a lot of pain medication, loads of
• 36:26
  codeine for this, for this pain, which we thought was the
• 36:29
  irritation. So in their head they've got no
• 36:32
  idea what's going on. No one knows because we've got,
• 36:35
  we've been. So they think.
• 36:37
  And then because I'm delirious, they're asking me how much
• 36:40
  codeine I'm taking and I'm going I I don't remember maybe this or
• 36:44
  this. Come.
• 36:45
  On in their head. I've taken too much coding.
• 36:49
  Well, luckily something stemmed a thought.
• 36:53
  I can't remember exactly what happens or in exactly what
• 36:56
  order, but they've made the group decision.
• 37:00
  I mean, between them to get me into hospital.
• 37:02
  Come on. So, but this was like the five
• 37:03
  fifth time we've called an ambulance.
• 37:05
  And I can't say to you when because of so many different
• 37:08
  things going wrong with asthma, flu, this or that.
• 37:12
  And at those times they did check my blood.
• 37:15
  So what happened later wasn't what was present at the start.
• 37:21
  So it was like the flu or the asthma would weaken my immune
• 37:24
  system so much. It was just the flu.
• 37:26
  It was just asthma, but it weakened me so much that it
• 37:29
  meant then it allowed me to contract an infection around the
• 37:32
  Thursday or Friday, which then just spiralled out control till
• 37:37
  the Monday the 16th of December where I was still now in a
• 37:40
  hospital. And all I remember, don't
• 37:44
  remember anything, All I remember was in a lot of pain
• 37:47
  sort of rolling around on this hospital bed.
• 37:50
  And this doctor comes in and he goes, he's shocked in the face
• 37:56
  because the blood results just come back and he's got, he's
• 37:59
  just turned to us. And I don't think he's known
• 38:01
  that because they've, he wasn't really paying attention at
• 38:03
  first. He'd see me like 4 times.
• 38:05
  I'd had asthma, I'd had the flu. There was nothing.
• 38:07
  Wrong, you'd see me, looks good, whatever, nothing wrong with it.
• 38:10
  And he done done my blood before the nothing had been wrong.
• 38:14
  They were well within their right to send me back home.
• 38:16
  So we don't know what point it don't know what point I
• 38:19
  contracted the infection. And we don't know how we got to
• 38:21
  the situation we got to. But he turned around to me and
• 38:23
  he went to me, my mum, I'm going.
• 38:27
  You're going into liver and kidney failure and then they
• 38:30
  they start. So you heard him saying this?
• 38:32
  And I think the next start they're going, we're taking you
• 38:34
  to resuscitation. So all of a sudden you're,
• 38:36
  you're thinking you've come in here for maybe taking too much
• 38:39
  codeine pain and my liver and kidney are failing.
• 38:42
  Now all of a sudden everything's sides click because I've got a
• 38:45
  pre-existing liver condition. So we obviously know it's
• 38:49
  something, but we don't understand how it's all
• 38:51
  connected and we don't, we, we really don't.
• 38:55
  And they rushed me to resuscitation department.
• 38:57
  I mean, I, I, I don't, I think I cry a lot, but I, I broke down
• 39:03
  at that. Point.
• 39:03
  I had to cry. Yeah, I broke down and my fiance
• 39:08
  Alice was, she was up in on the way to a job up north and she
• 39:13
  was on a train and I called her and she just, she broke it out
• 39:15
  into tears and she got on the train straight back.
• 39:18
  Yes, they're rushing me into resuscitation team.
• 39:21
  And yeah, I mean, we don't know how anything happened and a lot
• 39:27
  still doesn't make sense to us. We're still seeing clinics to
• 39:31
  understand what's really gone on, what's happened with my
• 39:34
  liver disease to mean this can now happen.
• 39:37
  But with the disease I've got, basically what we found out
• 39:40
  recently is they don't know anything about it.
• 39:43
  They know I've got something wrong with my liver.
• 39:45
  They know it could impact me in the future and they're just
• 39:50
  there to help along the way. Right now I'm fine but it could
• 39:54
  deteriorate to a point where I need a liver transplant and OK
• 39:57
  that that's just they will take care of me from A to B Hopefully
• 40:01
  I never get to B. Yeah, stay around a but we have
• 40:06
  had situations where the liver is showing signs of struggling.
• 40:08
  So yeah, I, I don't drink anymore.
• 40:10
  I, I don't, yeah, I, I don't do anything which could impair my
• 40:14
  liver function. I'm completely Yeah, just very,
• 40:18
  very careful, eating very healthy, getting back into my
• 40:21
  exercise very slowly. Yes, but yeah, it was.
• 40:25
  That's tough that that is stressful and scary for you.
• 40:28
  I can imagine that was horrible. So they, you went in, you
• 40:33
  thought it was something else. And then they said to you, you,
• 40:35
  you know that you're going to have this.
• 40:36
  You're going into all this failure, organ failure here.
• 40:39
  You've got sepsis. Tell me that then.
• 40:41
  But they knew you had. No, they didn't.
• 40:44
  Essentially they didn't know. They just could see my liver and
• 40:47
  kidney function were going wrong.
• 40:49
  They didn't know. They didn't know what I'd have
• 40:51
  got. They, they were just, they were
• 40:53
  asking me all the questions, doing all the tests.
• 40:55
  They, I was, they my bed was wheeled around all different
• 41:00
  parts of the hospital to try and find out what was going wrong.
• 41:02
  And it wasn't, they never came to an exact decision.
• 41:05
  It was more we ruled out everything else.
• 41:08
  So it and then when we spoke to a liver specialist, it was very
• 41:13
  much confirmed. Now we actually know you've got
• 41:15
  this disease, this all makes sense.
• 41:18
  And yeah, they put me on these industrial cleaning, like
• 41:22
  antibiotics. Oh gosh, these are the words
• 41:24
  they said. Hardcore.
• 41:26
  When they they, they can they destroy everything.
• 41:28
  This is the real deal. Yeah.
• 41:29
  They're like, she was like, they're like the the most, the
• 41:31
  strongest antibiotics you can get.
• 41:32
  Wow. Strongest antiviral you can get.
• 41:35
  Throw them in, thrush you out. Throw those babies.
• 41:37
  In and for the first two days I didn't respond.
• 41:39
  Liver funk. If anything, the the liver, my
• 41:42
  CRP, which shows the liver. Yeah, performance.
• 41:45
  It kept them going up into I was in the four hundreds, like
• 41:49
  really high, like basically my liver.
• 41:51
  They were literally saying to me, your liver might give up.
• 41:53
  And at that point we're going to take a liver function.
• 41:56
  Yeah. So we'll put you on dial and
• 41:57
  your kidney function, we'll put you on dialysis and we'll we'll
• 42:00
  get, we're here, we're in ICU. We're we're ready for you.
• 42:05
  We've got your bed and this is what I'm being told.
• 42:08
  And you know, luckily they something worked started to kick
• 42:13
  in and they. Started to absorb, but the liver
• 42:15
  is one of the few organs in the body that can fully regenerate.
• 42:18
  So unfortunately that doesn't apply to my liver.
• 42:21
  It doesn't. I've got congenital hepatic
• 42:24
  fibrosis. OK so the way my liver is is
• 42:29
  it's got cysts on it and bumps and although the liver
• 42:32
  regenerates, mind still regenerates with this disease.
• 42:36
  OK, so it's got the cyst, but it can regenerate to some point
• 42:38
  still. But that's not what.
• 42:40
  But that's not the issue, that's.
• 42:42
  Not the issue the the liver has a disease in it, so its norm is
• 42:46
  with this disease. So every time if, let's say if
• 42:50
  it does take impact, it's regenerating with the disease
• 42:53
  and the disease is getting. Worse.
• 42:55
  So how long have you had this then your whole?
• 42:56
  Since I was 4. Since you're 4 and they very.
• 42:58
  Much said to me. I've gone in for six monthly
• 43:00
  annual annual checkups and it's like you're fine.
• 43:03
  Yeah, you could have a. Drink, you're healthy, you look
• 43:06
  great. Exactly.
• 43:07
  You ever got any of this? No, no symptoms.
• 43:09
  Nothing. Nothing other than just give me
• 43:11
  some medication and this is what they said is always, but they
• 43:16
  don't tell you this because it could never happen with my
• 43:19
  disease. They don't know.
• 43:20
  They don't know enough about it basically.
• 43:22
  Well, they're going to Start learning now, I thought they.
• 43:25
  We, we would go every year. I thought we were going to a
• 43:28
  clinic for my disease. And what I found out is from a
• 43:31
  doctor in the last clinic was actually, no, my clinic is for
• 43:35
  liver diseases. And in that clinic, I'm like one
• 43:40
  of four people that she's seen in her history of being a doctor
• 43:44
  with my disease. Wow.
• 43:46
  Well, it was something ridiculously low like that.
• 43:49
  Like it was. Scary thing with doctors when
• 43:52
  you do get ill is you realize that not all of them know enough
• 43:55
  about you anything. But why don't you guys?
• 43:56
  Surely you guys should know. Come on.
• 43:58
  Yeah. And they don't always know.
• 44:00
  Or there's some very specific thing or this one might have a
• 44:02
  bit of that information that might have a bit.
• 44:03
  But no one really knows one person with everything.
• 44:06
  Or it's rare to find that. Don't get me wrong, and this is
• 44:08
  something I want to say very clearly.
• 44:11
  I have, I think the NHS have been amazing.
• 44:14
  They're the reason I'm here alive today.
• 44:17
  They their care is fantastic. We are so fortunate in the UK
• 44:22
  and God hope right now with everything going on in with the
• 44:25
  NHS, let's hope it's safe because I, I think you, we are
• 44:30
  one of many countries that have got a healthcare to be proud of.
• 44:34
  America are letting their people die on the streets because they
• 44:37
  don't have private insurance. Be thankful.
• 44:40
  We are likely to have to have. And I'm going to say that and I
• 44:43
  will, I will sing their praises, praises all day, every single
• 44:47
  day. But yes, it is very scary to see
• 44:53
  how little they know about some things.
• 44:55
  But that's to be expected. You know, they don't.
• 44:58
  They are human. They are, they are followed.
• 45:01
  If a new disease comes out, there are some scary.
• 45:04
  You're going to have to together, work together to get
• 45:06
  the information out and, and to find it out, find it out and get
• 45:10
  it out. So for those people that don't
• 45:12
  know sepsis, it's it's blood poisoning.
• 45:15
  I mean, in the simplest, what is it then?
• 45:17
  Sorry. This is sepsis is really as
• 45:20
  simple and This is why sepsis isn't a disease like congenital
• 45:24
  hepatic fibrosis. Sepsis isn't cancer.
• 45:27
  It isn't leukemia. It isn't a specific type of
• 45:30
  disease. Sepsis can happen to anyone.
• 45:34
  It's any type of infection which gets out of control.
• 45:38
  That's why you must treat infections if you're feeling
• 45:41
  ill, if you're feeling unwell, if you've got a chest infection,
• 45:44
  a throat infection, anything like this, if you've got a rash
• 45:48
  up here, if you've got a lump, any of these kinds of
• 45:52
  infections, whether they are, they can.
• 45:55
  All become septic Exactly. So what's the difference?
• 45:59
  So that's So what sepsis is understanding really, and this
• 46:03
  is real, really the crux of it is understanding of let not
• 46:07
  letting things go untreated. If things go untreated, they can
• 46:11
  become a lot, lot worse. And so there's something like
• 46:16
  one in five deaths are sepsis related because of infections
• 46:21
  they've got out of control that you've picked up in hospital.
• 46:23
  A splinter. My uncle got a splinter and lost
• 46:25
  his toe because of the infection getting out of control.
• 46:29
  It's all of these different things.
• 46:31
  You can pick them up anywhere now, I think.
• 46:33
  I don't know the exact percentage.
• 46:35
  So what there is one in five deaths are sepsis related and of
• 46:41
  those one in five deaths, there's a very high percentage,
• 46:44
  I'm not going to say what the percentage is because I don't
• 46:45
  know it, but there's a very high percentage of those deaths which
• 46:49
  are avoidable if caught earlier. Now that is for finding out
• 46:55
  stuff that is sepsis related, do follow the UKST website.
• 46:59
  They are. Put links in.
• 47:01
  There is a slogan there which it spells out sepsis and those are
• 47:05
  the symptoms and so shortness and breath.
• 47:08
  Which is what you had. Temperature, yeah.
• 47:10
  What you had. Dehydration, delirium, these.
• 47:13
  Kinds of things. Yeah, do look at the UKST
• 47:16
  website, the Sepsis Trust. They are fantastic.
• 47:19
  I'm I'm an ambassador for them. I'm working with them.
• 47:22
  As it's so good that you use what what happened to you in a
• 47:24
  positive way to to shine a light on this thing because not many
• 47:27
  people know about it at. All exactly.
• 47:30
  And it's so common. Seriously.
• 47:32
  I think where we I've got a somewhat of a social media
• 47:35
  platform. I was on Good Morning Britain, I
• 47:37
  do Made in Chelsea. Decent centre put yourself.
• 47:40
  Down Well, there are the critics out there who have to chime in
• 47:44
  and go, oh, say whatever about when, when I try and say I'm
• 47:47
  using the platform for whatever, they go, OK.
• 47:50
  Well, where? Where's their?
• 47:50
  Platform years or? Let them grow their platform.
• 47:53
  Who cares? My point is, yeah, even if there
• 47:56
  is just one of my friends. Following me totally.
• 47:58
  One of my friends who sees this forget the platform for a
• 48:01
  second. One person, one friend, one
• 48:04
  family member, plus who else whoever else sees it.
• 48:07
  If all of a sudden they see this and someone they know or
• 48:10
  themselves or someone related to them has these symptoms and they
• 48:15
  spotted out earlier than what they would have before and by
• 48:18
  that get them treated and by that save a life.
• 48:21
  Oh fuck me, have I done my. Job then you've done you've done
• 48:24
  your job well and. I would not wish on my worst
• 48:28
  enemy what I went through, waking up in a hospital bed,
• 48:31
  sweat, not knowing where you are, not knowing if you're going
• 48:34
  to make it out of that, if you're gonna see the outside
• 48:36
  world again. Fleming Scary.
• 48:38
  Yeah. Wondering should I have had a
• 48:40
  will set up? Does everyone you know where
• 48:42
  everything is thinking that the age of 28?
• 48:44
  No. Yeah, but that's the thing
• 48:45
  because, because I, I came across the article about you
• 48:48
  with sepsis and it it's touched me closely because my dad is
• 48:53
  still in hospital in Poland. Yeah, it's OK.
• 48:57
  He had a hernia pressure, but then he developed out of the
• 48:59
  hospital, He came back home and he developed this sepsis.
• 49:02
  So he had a wound that basically became septic.
• 49:06
  And The thing is, my parents, they're both very good.
• 49:09
  They understand medical things, they're very smart and that
• 49:11
  stuff. They always told us all you need
• 49:13
  to do this. And they always have the recipes
• 49:15
  and the things of when something's going wrong with
• 49:17
  you. They always tell you natural
• 49:18
  medicines and real medicines and why aren't you in antibiotics
• 49:22
  yet? They're so good at health.
• 49:23
  But so I'm surprised that my mom, it took her a while to to
• 49:27
  realize that he had this because he just looked like he was
• 49:29
  sleeping with rosy cheeks and he looked like it resting so
• 49:31
  nicely. But then when she actually
• 49:34
  eventually she's woke him up, she was like, come on man, are
• 49:36
  you sleeping? Like this is 2.
• 49:38
  Yeah. And then, yeah, I'm not going to
• 49:40
  go into the details there. So awful, awful.
• 49:42
  And then the sepsis, the antibiotics that you talk about,
• 49:45
  they put it inside in a sponge format into the wound to lap it
• 49:49
  up. And then all this stuff.
• 49:50
  It's it's quite but that you can deteriorate very, very, very
• 49:53
  quickly. It's just crazy.
• 49:56
  The sepsis thing. Yeah.
• 49:58
  I, I, I think that's the biggest thing is it's, that's why you
• 50:02
  must not let anything go untreated.
• 50:04
  Anything at all, whether you're 1 or 99, anything that goes
• 50:10
  untreated, it's because you don't think it will take too
• 50:13
  long in A&E or you're not going to get seen to by your GP.
• 50:17
  They are excuses. Do not do that.
• 50:20
  Go and see your GP. If you're really concerned, get
• 50:23
  to A&E, yeah. It's not normal.
• 50:26
  It's the symptoms that you, the breathlessness and the fever and
• 50:28
  it's the deli. It's not normal and you're not
• 50:31
  getting up and it's like a day's go.
• 50:32
  You're still in bed. Why are you in bed so?
• 50:33
  Long and I think that's the. It's not your.
• 50:35
  Thing it's not rather because when you're in that situation,
• 50:39
  you may not spot it yourself because or you're you don't not
• 50:42
  even think. Exactly.
• 50:44
  So it's about. People around you to be spotting
• 50:47
  those you know. For me, I'm very lucky and
• 50:50
  thankful to my fiance and my mum and for other people it's about
• 50:54
  those people around them. Exactly in your case is Alice
• 50:57
  and in my case is my mom, because eventually she picked up
• 50:59
  that phone because if she hadn't been there, if she had gone out
• 51:02
  for the day and does not come back till, I don't know, late at
• 51:05
  night, my dad might not be. And you.
• 51:07
  So it's like these people around you, they need to keep an eye on
• 51:10
  their on their patients or just check in and thank God we've got
• 51:13
  those loved ones around us to to look after us.
• 51:15
  But I appreciate it's like health anxiety and.
• 51:19
  I mean, I think that's been the hardest.
• 51:22
  I mean, physically I have been, I've, I've, I've healed, right?
• 51:29
  It's only been, it's been 6 months.
• 51:31
  I would say I lost an extreme amount of weight, felt extremely
• 51:35
  weak. But that all comes back.
• 51:37
  And with your physical health, you can see the progression
• 51:41
  line, right? You can see yourself getting
• 51:43
  better. You can see yourself getting
• 51:45
  healthier, but you can't see that with your mental health and
• 51:50
  you don't. And that's the same in, in real
• 51:53
  life with other situations in, with mental health, you can
• 51:56
  never see how well your mental health's doing or what's on the
• 51:59
  inside. It's not a, there's no, there's
• 52:01
  no result or mathematical equation to it.
• 52:05
  So I, it's something I've really struggled with and not in the
• 52:09
  sense of being depressed, more in the sense of the health
• 52:13
  anxiety that follows and constantly worried that if I get
• 52:20
  another symptom, could that lead to an infection?
• 52:23
  Could that be sepsis? Constantly worried about that.
• 52:26
  The unknowing. There is no aftercare.
• 52:28
  There's support. You know what was really
• 52:32
  interesting though, I, there was someone recently, someone
• 52:39
  recently, I watched the Theory of Everything again the other
• 52:42
  night and someone like Stephen Hawking.
• 52:46
  I mean obviously out of this world intelligent person, but
• 52:50
  forget about that for a second, at the age of I think it was
• 52:53
  18/19/20, around that age, when he was in university at
• 52:56
  Cambridge or Oxford, wherever he went, I believe it was
• 52:59
  Cambridge, he was told he had two years left to live and it
• 53:07
  was how he managed to deal with that mentally.
• 53:11
  God. And then still do what he did
• 53:14
  and live to the age he lived to while losing control of all his
• 53:18
  body. I turned around to myself and I
• 53:21
  went, yeah, if he can do that, then you know that that to me,
• 53:27
  I'm very big believer in manifestation, positivity and
• 53:31
  what you believe in, what you attract.
• 53:33
  So I was like, if he can deal with that, yeah, he was put on
• 53:36
  this world to do that. I believe I can.
• 53:38
  I don't have to focus on what if my liver gets worse
• 53:42
  progressively? What What happens if I have to
• 53:45
  have a liver transplant? Because it might not as well.
• 53:47
  It might not. So don't focus on that.
• 53:50
  Focus on what I want to do and what I'm going to believe.
• 53:52
  He he's, I mean, what an impressive.
• 53:55
  And I think, and you know, we spoke about this before this
• 53:58
  podcast where I said the fact that you know about what's
• 54:02
  happened to you, you've been through it, you heard what the
• 54:05
  doctor said, you've got all this organ failure thing happening
• 54:08
  and you've got it's like really stressful situation.
• 54:11
  You now know that. And in a way, this becomes your
• 54:15
  tool and and it's your friend because with that information,
• 54:19
  you are better equipped, you're more knowledgeable, you're just
• 54:24
  in a better position to then if there is the symptom you are,
• 54:27
  you will much better diagnose this.
• 54:30
  OK, yes, we'll give anxiety, but that's a good thing.
• 54:32
  Anxiety is a good thing when it's protecting you.
• 54:35
  So I don't think you should be like, oh, I've got anxiety.
• 54:37
  Actually, this is all your friend.
• 54:38
  This happened to make you stronger.
• 54:40
  And it's it's a tool in your tool kit for sure.
• 54:42
  That's it. And and since the first
• 54:44
  infection, I now know what the signs are.
• 54:47
  I've had infections since and because I've spotted the signs
• 54:51
  early, I've not become. You've not become sick.
• 54:53
  Not being hospitalized and fine, we're now, yeah.
• 54:57
  And you're going to be building your immune system and you're
• 55:00
  building your knowledge as well and you're learning about the
• 55:02
  condition that you have the pre-existing condition.
• 55:04
  So all of that stuff, it's, it's all tools that you take with
• 55:07
  you. It's making you better, sharper,
• 55:09
  stronger, better cooked in every way.
• 55:11
  And I mean, I, I just think you use this stuff, don't you?
• 55:14
  In life, you use it. And what you're doing now,
• 55:16
  speaking about sepsis as well, we're doing here.
• 55:19
  It's a good thing. This is all a positive.
• 55:21
  I mean, off a terrible thing that happened, it's actually
• 55:24
  also good. Yeah, and that's that's it,
• 55:27
  we've got it. You know, there was a horrific
• 55:30
  case especially which you know UK STR heavily working on which
• 55:36
  was of a lady who was a nurse, her son had got an infection.
• 55:41
  I don't know the insurance and outs of the particular story,
• 55:44
  but if you sit you'll see. You would have seen it maybe
• 55:46
  around. But a big thing is,
• 55:48
  unfortunately, she knew it was, she could spot sepsis.
• 55:52
  She called her head. She was a nurse.
• 55:54
  She pulled her head to the A&E department.
• 55:55
  She went, I think my son's got sepsis.
• 55:58
  I'm bringing him in. Some things weren't carried out
• 56:02
  particularly well. And unfortunately, her son
• 56:04
  passed away. No, out of that horrific
• 56:07
  situation. And God, you know nothing will
• 56:10
  ever bring back her son. He literally passed away from.
• 56:14
  There's, there's, there's nothing that will ever bring
• 56:16
  back her son. And I'm, I'm so, so sorry to for
• 56:19
  her to have to have gone through that.
• 56:21
  Oh my God. But there and there is a but
• 56:23
  here, but the the time there is a positive to have come out of
• 56:27
  the situation, although the positive does not outweigh the
• 56:30
  negative and I need to make that very, very clear, there is still
• 56:34
  a positive to come out of the situation and that is this
• 56:35
  massive inquest which has now gone on.
• 56:39
  How? How to how it happened?
• 56:40
  And how we avoid it happening again in the future.
• 56:42
  That's what's motivating her. She's she's heading this
• 56:45
  inquest. She wants to make sure no mother
• 56:48
  goes through the same situation as what she went through.
• 56:51
  So, yeah, what a fantastic woman she is.
• 56:54
  And we have to, we have to work on the.
• 56:56
  Positive, well, it helps with the mental side of it to mental
• 56:58
  health side of it to try and just turn it to help other
• 57:01
  people with it as well. So I think yeah.
• 57:05
  And I, and I hope for you as well, Sam, that you just this
• 57:07
  doesn't define you. It's a part of you.
• 57:08
  It doesn't define you. So you've got to just, it's
• 57:11
  something that happened and you've got, you're engaged,
• 57:15
  you've got, you've got all this stuff going on and you've just
• 57:17
  got to fly and spread those wings as wide as you possibly
• 57:19
  can and enjoy, enjoy the, the journey.
• 57:22
  Exactly. The other side of you that I
• 57:24
  really want to talk about is your business side, because
• 57:26
  you're, you're a pretty smart guy, you're a founder, you've
• 57:29
  got this business side to you that people don't know about.
• 57:31
  So for those that don't know, tell us a little bit about your
• 57:34
  business side. What do you do?
• 57:37
  So I've since the age of 18, I didn't go to university.
• 57:40
  I always wanted to work and work hard.
• 57:44
  I worked to my grandfather's building sites.
• 57:46
  I worked as a DJ for my mum and dad's DJ agency.
• 57:50
  I worked as a bar back in bars. I I wanted to work in the real
• 57:54
  world. I didn't want to.
• 57:56
  I wasn't an academic. My brother was an academic man
• 57:58
  through and through, a straight A star student, Cambridge grad.
• 58:02
  He he was real competition to deal with.
• 58:05
  I was, I wasn't by any means not intelligent enough to go to
• 58:09
  university. I had offers from great
• 58:11
  university but that was not my personality.
• 58:14
  I was someone who wanted to get into the working world.
• 58:17
  So I, I left my A levels and well, I finished my A levels but
• 58:20
  I didn't go to university. I went straight into the city,
• 58:23
  started working for another young man who just started his
• 58:27
  own foreign exchange brokerage business and started working for
• 58:30
  him. And my mum said I could sell the
• 58:33
  classic sounds, I could sell sand to the Arabs, ice to the
• 58:37
  Eskimos, that that was my gift. It was you I would talk.
• 58:42
  Hence why I was went to a different school.
• 58:44
  Hence why. I was you should have gone an
• 58:46
  apprentice. Yeah, I mean.
• 58:48
  You would be good. On I would have loved to have
• 58:49
  done The Apprentice, Really, really would have loved to,
• 58:52
  yeah. Don't know why I never applied,
• 58:54
  but would have loved to have done it.
• 58:55
  You can still do it, yeah. Celebrity.
• 58:59
  And so I started working for this guy and he wasn't the most
• 59:03
  intelligent person, but fair play.
• 59:06
  Give credit where credit is due. He was a hard worker.
• 59:11
  He'd worked in the industry, he'd had experience and he, you
• 59:14
  could just tell. I went for other interviews as
• 59:17
  well. And I could just tell, even in
• 59:18
  that young, naive age that I was 18 years of age, I could tell
• 59:24
  that he was going to build something pretty amazing.
• 59:26
  So I worked for him. I lied to my mum about where his
• 59:29
  offices were because he was a young man working in the garages
• 59:33
  above his dad's, the offices above his dad's garage because
• 59:36
  his dad had a car garage. Yeah.
• 59:38
  And there was us a bunch of 21 and unders working, selling
• 59:43
  currency to. It was quite like waffle Wall
• 59:45
  Street moments. Yeah, selling currency to.
• 59:47
  You guys are doing your own thing.
• 59:49
  Yeah, we were. We were selling currency to
• 59:50
  import export companies, anyone who needed it and saving the
• 59:54
  money. So we were doing, we were doing
• 59:56
  good thing we're helping people save money and we were making
• 59:59
  money and we were, we were grafters and we went out and we
• 1:00:02
  grafted and we built this business into the business is
• 1:00:05
  still going today, I believe. I think he does.
• 1:00:08
  I think it's still doing very, very well.
• 1:00:09
  I was the head of sales for the company at one point and we're
• 1:00:12
  talking we grew this from nothing.
• 1:00:14
  When I started it was doing under 10,000 a month gross
• 1:00:16
  profit. To the point where I left and it
• 1:00:20
  was doing in the hundreds of thousands a month, you know, in
• 1:00:23
  the millions a year. And I believe it's far outgrown
• 1:00:26
  that now. And I went and unfortunately
• 1:00:28
  situations happened where I didn't, you know, I butted heads
• 1:00:32
  with the senior director of the business and it wasn't right for
• 1:00:36
  me. And I had this opportunity with
• 1:00:37
  two of the other guys that I'd worked with to start my own
• 1:00:39
  business. And my grandfather had always
• 1:00:42
  said to me, it's like, you know, he, I was work doing, earning
• 1:00:46
  good money at the age of 18/19/20 for this individual.
• 1:00:49
  But he always turned around to me and he went, it's fantastic
• 1:00:52
  that you're doing well. There's nothing like working for
• 1:00:54
  yourself. And I come from a family of
• 1:00:56
  entrepreneurs, you know, and my grandfather owned his own
• 1:00:59
  building company. It's just different.
• 1:01:01
  My mum and dad own owning their own music business, DJ Agency.
• 1:01:06
  You've got that bug, you've caught it.
• 1:01:08
  It was, it was contagious. It was more.
• 1:01:10
  About proving I can do this too. So it was a perfect opportunity.
• 1:01:14
  Opportunity me along with two of the guys I used to work with.
• 1:01:17
  You either have it or you don't. Yeah, 100% and we went and
• 1:01:21
  started our own business and that went really well for 3-4
• 1:01:24
  years. And then my grandfather says the
• 1:01:26
  next follow up comment, which was, yeah, but you've got
• 1:01:29
  business partners. And you know what?
• 1:01:32
  It's my grandfather's comments, my mum's father.
• 1:01:35
  And it really, it really resonated with me.
• 1:01:37
  They really stuck in my head. And it's the same as the way I,
• 1:01:41
  you know, I would get annoyed at him for saying those things.
• 1:01:43
  You know, why can't you just be, you know, proud of me?
• 1:01:46
  But at the same time, it's those kind of constructive criticism
• 1:01:50
  comments that come out. They pushed me to, you know, now
• 1:01:54
  I run my own business completely 100% on my own.
• 1:01:57
  So yes, I have run a mixture of different foreign exchange
• 1:02:02
  businesses, but essentially worked my way up the ladder from
• 1:02:05
  working for someone to having my own business with business
• 1:02:08
  partners to now being share, share singular shareholder from
• 1:02:13
  my own current company. And now we're expanding at the
• 1:02:16
  moment, so. What is the company?
• 1:02:17
  What are you doing? Vanderpump FX, yes.
• 1:02:19
  So everything's got to be in line with the branding of the
• 1:02:23
  last name. Yeah, we, we're a currency
• 1:02:25
  exchange brokerage. We, we did, we exchanged quite a
• 1:02:28
  lot. I think in January we exchanged
• 1:02:31
  10 million. So that was one of our record
• 1:02:33
  mumps, which was fantastic. And yeah, we're we're growing,
• 1:02:36
  we're growing year on year. So that's all really, really
• 1:02:39
  exciting. This you wouldn't see that about
• 1:02:40
  you many Chelsea. None of that this
• 1:02:42
  entrepreneurial story. And then I got called in by some
• 1:02:45
  relevant person on the show, called me a neppo baby.
• 1:02:49
  And you know what's really. He's going to ask you has
• 1:02:51
  something being handed to you. You're doing this by yourself.
• 1:02:54
  Firstly, my dad when he passed away, passed away and get passed
• 1:02:58
  me on debt so okay ohh that's you know that the idea that
• 1:03:03
  someone has given me something to get to where I am.
• 1:03:06
  These are all. Let's let's squash that right
• 1:03:08
  now. No ones given Sam anything and
• 1:03:12
  he's built this by himself, so let's clear that up.
• 1:03:15
  Comment It is a horrible comment.
• 1:03:17
  It's. A It's a ridiculous comment.
• 1:03:20
  And it's not true. It's.
• 1:03:21
  Not true, the only person that could potentially have given me
• 1:03:25
  something would be my auntie who's yes worth 10s of millions
• 1:03:28
  if not hundreds. But can I ask you this?
• 1:03:31
  What Auntie? Yeah, just gives you stuff.
• 1:03:34
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, there it is.
• 1:03:36
  Does anyone have an auntie Just give?
• 1:03:37
  You a couple £1,000,000 or let's say your auntie's got 100.
• 1:03:41
  Let's let's you know it doesn't have to be whatever money, but
• 1:03:45
  if your auntie's got a few 100,000, what auntie just comes
• 1:03:47
  along and gives you 1000 lbs to start your business?
• 1:03:49
  It's all relative and it's all bullshit.
• 1:03:51
  What she has given you is some really good advice that can be
• 1:03:53
  advice advice and that that you. Can find and I would want that
• 1:03:57
  yeah every day far more and I'm looking into the camera to.
• 1:04:00
  Read. That's going to make you the
• 1:04:01
  money. Yeah, no, but it's good we're
• 1:04:03
  clearing this up now like you are building stuff by yourself,
• 1:04:06
  OK. I value the advice I've got from
• 1:04:09
  my family more than anything. Totally, and that's all that
• 1:04:12
  I've ever got. Because that's what you can take
• 1:04:13
  with you and that's what's going to make you money, your own
• 1:04:16
  money. And not any hand me downstairs
• 1:04:18
  anybody. And I've got into places of debt
• 1:04:20
  at point, you know, in starting my own businesses and I had to
• 1:04:24
  work my way out of those, those debt holes.
• 1:04:27
  You know, when I first started one of the first companies when
• 1:04:30
  we had business partners, I remember a point because we were
• 1:04:34
  self funding the business ourselves.
• 1:04:36
  We'd built up a a pot of money. We'd gone in to start this
• 1:04:39
  business, but obviously it takes a bit of cash.
• 1:04:41
  So we'd put all this cash in and we were all extremely low on
• 1:04:44
  cash. And me and the other two
• 1:04:46
  business partners to the point where I think I essentially had
• 1:04:49
  a credit card which I probably owe 10 grand on.
• 1:04:51
  Yeah, I was really, I was struggling until the company
• 1:04:54
  started to do really well and we we skyrocketed, we slingshot.
• 1:04:58
  But we did that knowing what we'd built at another company,
• 1:05:02
  knowing we'd build it again. And when I went and started 1/3
• 1:05:04
  business, it was there was never any doubt in my mind that that,
• 1:05:08
  that I had to go into a little bit of a hole.
• 1:05:11
  Yeah. Well, you, you take risks, you
• 1:05:13
  take risks, but they are calculated risks.
• 1:05:15
  You know, you're doing it backed on, on evidence and everything.
• 1:05:18
  And you know, fair play to you because you could be like most
• 1:05:20
  people and you can go and get a job.
• 1:05:22
  And I'm not downplaying downplaying a job because you
• 1:05:24
  can get great jobs and work really, really flipping hard.
• 1:05:26
  But it takes something of a special kind of personality and
• 1:05:30
  risk taker to to put themselves in a risky situation where
• 1:05:33
  you're going to get into debt, where it might not work.
• 1:05:35
  The world's going to be, oh, you failed, you've done this.
• 1:05:37
  You, I mean you go try being an entrepreneur, then go on.
• 1:05:40
  And you know, what's really interesting is I love the risk
• 1:05:44
  and I still take risks this day. And I think it's, it's really
• 1:05:48
  interesting. I, I, I take, I like the risk
• 1:05:51
  and I take more and more risk with investments.
• 1:05:54
  I've taken risks. I've lost 10s of thousands, if
• 1:05:57
  not hundreds of thousands of pounds on risks.
• 1:06:01
  But my, my philosophy is one of those risks.
• 1:06:05
  Like I took the risk when I first started one of my
• 1:06:07
  businesses and I lost 1020 thousand by going down.
• 1:06:10
  And that one, that risk worked and I got to where I am today.
• 1:06:13
  Now I take bigger risks and I've lost risks at the time, but the
• 1:06:17
  bigger the risks of what slingshot you that extra mile.
• 1:06:21
  And if you're not willing to take the risk, then you're not
• 1:06:24
  willing to be an entrepreneur. Yeah.
• 1:06:25
  Well, what I would like to call you is, is like the modern age
• 1:06:28
  entrepreneur because you've got like this mixture of your, your
• 1:06:31
  own brand, which we'll talk about this, your brand, there's
• 1:06:34
  your family name, which is also brand.
• 1:06:37
  And then you bring in that into sort of merging that in with a
• 1:06:39
  reality TV and then you've got this business thing.
• 1:06:41
  It's almost like the perfect little Little Mix.
• 1:06:44
  So let's talk about that. Is that deliberate thing?
• 1:06:47
  Are you using the reality TV thing to boost the business?
• 1:06:52
  How important is your let's talk about this branding.
• 1:06:55
  So this is a. Really really interesting
• 1:06:57
  question and I've only worked out the answer to this myself
• 1:07:00
  recently. OK, let's go.
• 1:07:02
  I knew how to be an entrepreneur.
• 1:07:03
  I knew how to start my own business.
• 1:07:05
  Yeah, I knew how to make money. Yeah, fine.
• 1:07:08
  And that's done very well. Then I wanted to do reality TV
• 1:07:11
  because in my head I wanted to do something or I wanted to turn
• 1:07:15
  to more of a personal brand, something I enjoyed.
• 1:07:18
  I've done a foreign exchange. It makes money.
• 1:07:20
  It's fantastic but it's so blaming boring you've.
• 1:07:24
  Got too much personality too well, it's been.
• 1:07:26
  Wasted. And wasted behind the computer.
• 1:07:28
  My dad said to me, don't sit behind a computer.
• 1:07:30
  He's no one's going to. I see you behind the computer
• 1:07:32
  all day long. Get out there.
• 1:07:34
  You've hit the nail on the head. So I was right.
• 1:07:37
  OK, so then this opportunity came up.
• 1:07:39
  It was right timing. Go on reality TV, build my
• 1:07:42
  personal brand. Fantastic.
• 1:07:44
  But now I've got these two paths which are very, very different.
• 1:07:48
  I've got me being an entrepreneur.
• 1:07:49
  Are they? Well, here we go.
• 1:07:52
  And I hadn't worked out for the last year and a half how these
• 1:07:55
  paths were going to overlap. And it's only recently that I've
• 1:08:00
  worked it out and and it was again off the back of some
• 1:08:03
  advice that my auntie has given me.
• 1:08:05
  Lisa. Yeah, Lisa really, really has
• 1:08:07
  been and it's something I'm working on at the moment is
• 1:08:10
  really exciting. So, you know, we've made in
• 1:08:12
  Chelsea, you get this built in kind of platform and then with
• 1:08:16
  my FX business, I've got this amazing network and clientele
• 1:08:21
  and friends, you know, of some really amazing people, you know
• 1:08:25
  which and they're going, it's the stories are going to waste.
• 1:08:28
  And I thought I've always wanted to do a podcast myself, like I'm
• 1:08:32
  on one right now and I've always wanted to put one together.
• 1:08:35
  How is this all going to connect?
• 1:08:37
  And I realised, you know, it will be the built in crowd of
• 1:08:41
  made in Chelsea. Who will help this podcast,
• 1:08:43
  Slingshot and the podcast is essentially about Vanderpump FX,
• 1:08:49
  Sam Vanderpump, the class, the friends, the network and all
• 1:08:54
  these people who are doing currency exchange through my
• 1:08:57
  company are some of the most interesting businesses.
• 1:09:02
  You want to be talking to them? Yeah.
• 1:09:04
  You want to be talking to them for.
• 1:09:05
  Sure, we've got some fantastic stories coming up.
• 1:09:07
  The The series is called a Vanderpod Play on.
• 1:09:11
  Winsis, Winsis. So we're in the process of
• 1:09:14
  filming at the moment, OK. So it's going to be coming out
• 1:09:17
  in the next month or two months. OK, well I'll update the
• 1:09:20
  description. You send me those links so
• 1:09:21
  people can have a little. Yeah, so Vanderpod.
• 1:09:23
  Connection to. Play on Vanderpump and yeah.
• 1:09:26
  Because we have a lot of people interested in business and
• 1:09:28
  entrepreneurship and they like reality TV.
• 1:09:30
  Oh, these are going to be some fantastic stories.
• 1:09:32
  You know, it's just, without mentioning too much and spoiling
• 1:09:35
  the promos, we've got some great lengths of history to modern day
• 1:09:41
  moguls, business moguls, Yeah, really good.
• 1:09:45
  Stuff So when we started the podcast, I said who is Sam
• 1:09:48
  Vanderpump? And now I'm going to, we're
• 1:09:50
  coming to the end now. So I'm going to tie that back
• 1:09:52
  in. But like, who is Sam Vanderpump
• 1:09:54
  the brand? Because you're very, you're well
• 1:09:57
  put together. You're kind of like curated in
• 1:10:00
  aesthetically. Like you're going to Instagram,
• 1:10:02
  you've got the nice shorts, you got suits, you present very
• 1:10:05
  well, you speak really nicely. You come across as polite and
• 1:10:08
  all that kind of thing. I mean, some people might say a
• 1:10:10
  bit controlled. You have the critics to say, but
• 1:10:12
  I just, we're going to forget about the trolling vibes because
• 1:10:15
  let them try. But so like, talk to me about
• 1:10:20
  your brand and why? Why is it important to you to
• 1:10:23
  dress the way you do and be the way you are?
• 1:10:27
  And is that actually your brand? Is it?
• 1:10:31
  Interesting. I guess with when you put
• 1:10:35
  yourself into this like kind of limelight, you have to think
• 1:10:41
  about the way you're branding because you're your personality
• 1:10:46
  is your branding. And then if you're going to put
• 1:10:49
  yourself in this kind of spotlight, if you haven't given
• 1:10:53
  your brand off in a certain way, then if people don't buy into
• 1:10:57
  your brand, why are they ever going to buy into anything else
• 1:11:00
  you do? And what I mean by that is, but
• 1:11:05
  I, I'm a big, big believer of be authentic.
• 1:11:11
  So yes, there is a branding site, but I believe I'm very
• 1:11:16
  authentic, OK? There are people out there who
• 1:11:18
  take calculated risks, calculated moves to give off a
• 1:11:22
  perception of their brand to make business.
• 1:11:26
  But I don't believe in that because I don't want to ever
• 1:11:28
  look back and go, well, that wasn't me, right?
• 1:11:31
  Yeah, that wasn't me. So I was pretending to do this
• 1:11:35
  or that or whatever. But is it you?
• 1:11:37
  Is it you to dress so well and to.
• 1:11:39
  Be. Do you, were you taught that
• 1:11:42
  like? Yeah, I think I was from a young
• 1:11:44
  age, I was always told, especially by my mother to, you
• 1:11:48
  know, to take care. Presentable.
• 1:11:49
  Yeah, our whole family to present, be presentable.
• 1:11:52
  Yeah, actually something which was engraved.
• 1:11:54
  Some respect for yourself. Get dressed nicely, you know,
• 1:11:56
  brush that hair. I mean, when we went to school,
• 1:11:59
  we weren't allowed hair products in our hair.
• 1:12:01
  We weren't OK. Our shoes had to be polished.
• 1:12:03
  Yes, our ties had to be done properly.
• 1:12:06
  Respect your uniform. Yeah, like you know, as we would
• 1:12:09
  enter our school, we would shake our teachers hand on the door
• 1:12:12
  and we'd go. Good morning, Mr. Politely.
• 1:12:15
  You know. Basic I don't know.
• 1:12:16
  If I can say my school teachers names on this, but yeah, who
• 1:12:19
  knows? Good morning.
• 1:12:20
  Mr. Yarlet would be one of them. And, you know, we would go
• 1:12:23
  through these, these, these protocols and then we'd have
• 1:12:26
  assemblies and we'd have public speeches, you know, alter and
• 1:12:30
  debating societies and stuff like that to really help grow.
• 1:12:35
  You know, I, I would say you, we're all, even if you're not in
• 1:12:38
  the public eye, you've all got your own brand.
• 1:12:40
  Well, that is a brand, the school's a brand.
• 1:12:42
  So you're reflecting the brand. So I went to, I went to a school
• 1:12:44
  boarding school and then, for example, say that we're not
• 1:12:46
  allowed to walk linked arms and eat food like burger or
• 1:12:49
  something like whilst we're walking because it gives the the
• 1:12:51
  school a bad vibes. You've got to walk a certain
• 1:12:53
  way, talk a certain way of citizen because there's a brand
• 1:12:56
  of the school. But now we're we're evolving.
• 1:12:58
  Especially if you're doing a mixture of reality TV star
• 1:13:01
  public figure slash business. You are the brand.
• 1:13:04
  The personality becomes the brand in the clothes, how you
• 1:13:06
  carry yourself, how you speak, how you deal with conflict.
• 1:13:09
  For example, the fact that you're controlled in conflict on
• 1:13:11
  Made in Chelsea, you don't ever lose it on TVI think that's part
• 1:13:15
  of the brand I. Think that's very unbecoming?
• 1:13:17
  You're not hot headed. No, yeah, it's very unbecoming
• 1:13:19
  to lose your temper, right. I just, I just think even like
• 1:13:23
  there've been situations if if you ever catch me in a
• 1:13:26
  situations, I wouldn't be hot headed.
• 1:13:31
  Maybe when I was good girl. It's bad menace, you know it's.
• 1:13:33
  Bad menace. It's unbecoming.
• 1:13:35
  It's. Unbecoming it.
• 1:13:37
  Takes. It takes a very very.
• 1:13:39
  Yeah, I don't. Like a much bigger man or a
• 1:13:41
  person to be able to control yourself and articulate yourself
• 1:13:48
  and the person who shouts and swears, that's awful.
• 1:13:51
  Loses the eye? Is she doing it in public and on
• 1:13:53
  camera? Surely you must have some
• 1:13:54
  self-awareness. You know that that cannot
• 1:13:56
  possibly be good unless your brand is selling something like.
• 1:13:59
  That so I'll I'll say I'll say something if God this could all
• 1:14:02
  be to my detriment when next easy.
• 1:14:05
  I'm using my temper and. I'm screaming.
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  At shouting, but I think if you can't control yourself in that
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  situation on TV, yeah. What are you like behind that?
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  Oh yeah, yeah, you know, because that is a controlled
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  environment. So if you can't control yourself
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  in a controlled environment, yeah, then you can.
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  I think you're, you know, represents something way scarier
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  behind closed doors. So, you know, yeah.
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  Well, I think you've come across really well and I do wish you
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  all the best with your businesses.
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  It'd be interesting to see how you how you evolve and progress
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  and how things turn out on when in Chelsea.
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  You know what's really interesting?
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  For the first six months this year was very hard.
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  It was very much just focus on my health.
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  Yeah, of course. But building, rebuilding those?
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  After like sort of from the start of June, I have been as I
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  came back from LA after I got my updated advice, I have been so
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  working on so much yeah. So there's a lot happening.
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  You're. Pretty focused.
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  You, you're a yes. You're, you're in, you're in a
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  yes mode kind of thing. You can tell that you're you.
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  Know life is my always start. I'm so thankful to be here.
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  I'm thankful to be alive. And you know, I'm working with
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  Sepsis Trust. I'm working on a new podcast,
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  I'm working on a new business, so and I'm working on so many
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  different things and they're all going to start to come out over
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  the next few months. So if you do follow me on social
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  media, you will see some of those things.
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  We'll put all your links in the description.
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  Sam, it's been amazing having you.
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  Thank you so much for having me. Thank you so much.
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  Thank you.