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The importance of prepping · UK Column Radio

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James Walton, it's been a while. Thank you for joining me again
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in the trenches. Thanks so much for having me,
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Jeremy. I appreciate it's been a while.
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Congrats on the family expansion, man.
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How beautiful is that? Well, it's part of prepping.
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Prepping the next generation for sure, no doubt about it.
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James. Yeah, it's a great adventure.
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I've chatted to you a few times over the last few years and
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sure, and I love chatting to you because we cover.
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We cover something really important and nobody talks about
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it enough, I think. And that's prepping.
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That's prepping. Yeah, I agree with you.
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I it's in passing at best anymore, you know, it's it's
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sort of like a build an emergency kit and get prepared.
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Things are looking a little crazy out there.
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But yeah, not a lot of people go in depth on it and not a lot of
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people go in depth on it outside of like pre made sort of YouTube
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style content, you know, like it's not a lot of free flow and
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kind of shows like yours where you bring a prepper on and
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really have a conversation with them about the topic.
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You're right, it is. I don't know if people assume
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they could just figure it out on their own or what.
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But you're right, there is a. There is a lack.
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I have a feeling it has to do with the sort of instant culture
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that we live in, where everything is done for you.
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Could be, could very well be the case, you know.
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Do you think we're pulling out of that or do you think we're
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digging deeper into that? I don't know, man.
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I don't know but. But yeah.
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But that's why I'm chatting too with you, so that we can bring
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it back, we can bring it back to the front.
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Hey, it's essential. It's essential.
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I've told you before about the 100 year amnesia.
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You know, we've largely lost the bulkhead of what skills and
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understanding of the planet we had in 100 years thanks to food
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and tin cans and TV dinners and, you know, that kind of stuff,
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medicine in bottles. We just forgot it all in, in the
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span of a hundred, 150 years Max.
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And now there are legions of people out there clawing it
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back. And I think that's a good start,
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you know? Yeah.
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So James, for my UK column Audience that doesn't know who
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you are, let's just quickly cover that.
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Yeah, sure. Real quick.
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What's important about me, I think is that I, I'm not pre
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prior military. I'm not I don't have any cool
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credentials. I was a chef before becoming a
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prepper and freelance writer in the in the genre, you know what
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I mean? And since of purchase the
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Prepper broadcasting network and we built that into a 15 host
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podcast network, Spotify, iTunes, YouTube everywhere.
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And you know, now we do almost everything there is that can be
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done through the network regarding prepping,
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homesteading, survival. I mean, you know, herbal
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medicine, foraging, blacksmithing, even some health
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and Wellness and fitness stuff wrapped up in there.
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And I've just over the years learned alongside my audience
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and, and we built the Prepper Broadcasting network into what
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it is, you know, and it's, it's been a blast, man.
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It really has. What is prepping?
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Well, it depends on, you know, where you grow up.
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I talked to some people who who grow up in the backwoods in
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Mississippi, and they think that prepping is a funny word for how
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they grew up. You know, and, and it's, it's
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just what it is for me. The I'll give you like the
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esoteric prepping is a way for men in particular to access a
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bunch of lost skills without having to explain it or call it
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a hobby or, you know, things like that, like splitting wood,
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shooting a, a recurve bow and arrow, blacksmithing.
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Those are things that I never would have done ever in my life.
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But because I became a prepper, all of a sudden I felt like, oh,
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I should learn these skills. You know what I mean?
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Because we're getting prepared for the unknown.
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For the average person, though, I think it is just about being
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ready for what happens in life. You know what, the things that
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will undoubtedly happen in your own life, it will be a job loss
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or COVID 2020, you know what I mean?
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Life is full of bumps and ups and downs and it's you know, it
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is a it is a suffering affair from time to time and be and
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when you're prepared, it's you just can I give you one more
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because there is one more that is modern, the modern day.
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I figured this out just this year.
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It is also anti anxiety. It's an anti anxiety medication
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for the times. I don't think it's always been
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that way, but what I look at nowadays is prepping,
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homesteading, that this crowd of people, they have much less
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anxiety built in because we're all feasting on the headlines
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and the headlines are terrible. And if you have no way of
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dealing with that, then anxiety is going to go through the roof.
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You're going to go absolutely insane.
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Iran and Israel and World War Three and you know what I mean,
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All the stuff that's going on. But prepping I think really has
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become sort of a an anti anxiety drug, a real 1, you know, one
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that works. I was going to ask you why
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prepping is important and I think you have already now
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touched on that, that it, it deals with, I, I guess
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personally speaking anxiety, but I mean on a more practical
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level, why does it matter? Well, I mean, you know, you can
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look at it from a number of angles.
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I think. I think it's an essential
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because I think we've overshot the I think we've overshot the
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the human path, you know what I mean?
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I think we're doing, we've gone a little too far with
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technology. We've gone a little too far with
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comfort and convenience, prepping and homesteading.
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And those things pull you back self sufficiency.
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They pull you back so that you, you know, you're, you're more of
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a human than what you were, you know, in my opinion.
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But like we're, we're cybernetic damn near nowadays.
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So I think for on a personal level that that that's very
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important. Practically speaking, though,
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you, you know, you're going to live a healthier lifestyle.
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If you're growing your own food, if you're cooking your own food,
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you're going to live a healthier lifestyle.
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I think it's one of the I really like over the past couple months
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germ have been like, is prepping health and Wellness?
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Like is it a health and Wellness thing now?
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You know, it really feels that way lately.
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And you know, beyond that from the financial side of things,
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you know, you look at the cost of food and, and when you're a
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prepper, you put food up from maybe a year ago, maybe two
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years ago, things like that. And, and you know, you, you put
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money into assets like land and like silver and maybe even gold.
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And it's a different way to manage money and things like
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that. So it, it can touch every aspect
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of your lifestyle. You know, and you talk about
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building your, your children up. Your children grow up in in a
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household full of preppers and the self reliant mentality, you
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know, they grow up with chickens and gardens and guns and that
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kind of stuff. And you know, you're just
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creating a different generation of kids compared to like me who
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grew up in the 90s in a suburb and wasn't exposed to anything
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like that. So there's a myriad of benefits,
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man. You know, really turning it into
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a lifestyle is the key though. You know, it's not just buy the
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bag, buy the food and forget about it.
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You got to live it. So when we talking about
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prepping, what are we actually then talking about?
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So I mean, if you want to get into like the beam counting of
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it, you know it at the fundamental level, you want to
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have food, water, medical security, backup power,
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definitely backup power. Now that's going up the ranks
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over the last few years, right? You want to have at least 6
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buckets, 7 buckets. Emergency communications is
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another great one that you have plans and backup plans for right
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on hand. More than the average person.
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What we learned through the last probably 10 or 20 years is that
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when disasters happen, people stay home.
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So a good place to start is fortify your home, have enough
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food in place, have enough water in place so that you can stick
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around for a while until things blow over.
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I think while the bug out is really cool and really an
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interesting topic, I think most people tend to bug in and stay
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home when when disaster strikes. And prepping is what gives you
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the ability to do that because you have excess right resources.
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And on top of the resource level, there's also the skills,
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right? So really it is a culmination of
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sort of resources and skills on top of what have what the
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average person sort of carries in their pocket day to day.
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Give me some examples. Sure, you want resources or you
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want skills. Well, start with start with
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skills. OK.
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Yeah. So one of the most basic, and I
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think one that a lot of people had kind of dialled in a little
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more in years past is like how to deal with the first aid, You
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know, like, like basic, fundamental first aid is
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something that most people aren't trained on.
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I think sort of like the loss of the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts
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in America. We don't really kind of put an
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end to that. We don't say Boy and Girl Scouts
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anymore. It's them scouts.
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Oh, the them scouts? Is that what it is?
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I don't know. We left a long time ago, but we
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were in it for a little. While.
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They wouldn't let us. They them scouts.
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That they them scouts, we would, we weren't allowed to show up
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without a mask on. So we quit.
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We got we got tired of that number.
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But yeah. So, so skills that like first
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aid skills like, you know, one of the most interesting ones and
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fundamental ones is knowing what is out in the wild, you know
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what I mean? In terms of like the trees, the
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plants, the things that have been medicine for a very, very,
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very long time, thousands of years over multiple continents
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across the world, Like everybody treated things with plants, with
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trees, with roots. And that those are skills that
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we just forgotten. And those are skills that you
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can, you know, over time with the help of books, with the help
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of courses, you can relearn those things.
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At the end of the day, you're just really fundamentally
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relearning, foraging tonnes of food out in the wild.
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I don't know, you know, not every country has access to the
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wild places the way that we do in America.
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But your front yard is my front yard every year has dandelion,
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which the leaves of dandelion edible, the rooter edible,
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violets that grow, curly duck that grows.
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It's just stuff like right out the window that most people mow
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or, or weed whip, you know what I mean?
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And we've forgotten that their food.
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So, you know, those kinds of skills are, are good examples.
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You know, you can get into the tactical, the sort of shooting
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and, and martial arts and self defence and fighting.
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The home security skill set I think is a really important one.
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You know, people basically tie their entire home security into
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like a lock on the door handle and maybe a lock on their
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window, you know, so you can, you can develop a better
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understanding of how to secure your property.
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It's a, it's a pretty big list, you know what I mean?
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There are, there are aspects of prepping the touch on almost
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anything that fortifies your life fundamentally makes it
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better and makes you healthier. You know, as far as I can tell
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anyway, The, the, what's really been lost in the prepping
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community lately is the doom of it all.
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The, the mainstream media has kind of taken over the Doom,
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whereas we used to use the Doom as a platform to sort of propel
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our ideas. Now it seems like, like I said,
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it seems more like we're pushing a lifestyle on people anymore,
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you know, and that lifestyle is the things that you learn in the
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house and you know, outside the house, the raising of chickens,
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the raising of things like I spent the last 3-4 months
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raising quail before they were all eaten by a fox.
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But that was a new, new thing for me, new food source, you
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know what I mean? And.
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Yeah, it's just like. It's a tributary with, I'm
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sorry, it's a river with many tributaries, man.
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Like you can go down all kinds of different routes with
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prepping and learn and and always be welcome and always be
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learning. And it's yeah, it's been a great
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life because. But I'll tell you that much.
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But it sounds like you're only talking about living in the
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countryside. I mean, what about the millions
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and millions of people that live in the city centre?
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Well, I live in the suburbs actually.
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I live in a suburb. I live on less than an acre of
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land. I had that.
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Well, our host Jordan was living in South Carolina in Myrtle
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Beach. She had chickens and she was
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living in a condominium, you know what I mean?
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I have a guy who lives on the mountainside, right?
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And he has a tremendous homestead.
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Dave Jones, the NBC guy, he's, he'd be a great guest on the
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show too. But he lives on multiple acres,
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farms, all kinds of different animals, gardens, everything he
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does germ is on 1 1/2 to 2 acres of land.
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So there is a misnomer that you need a large plot of land to do
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things like we have apple trees, fig trees, raspberries, paw paw
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trees. I don't know if you know what
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those are gardens, you know, perennial plants that grow in
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the front and the backyard. And we're in the suburbs.
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You know, I, I really think that now, if you're in the city
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centre like you're talking about, it's going to be a harder
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lift. But I really do think that the
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massive Americans are capable of doing, and probably people in
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cities all over the world are, are capable of doing a lot more
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than they do. And they use the idea of, well,
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I'm not on 10 acres, so I can't do any of the cool stuff as kind
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of an excuse, you know what I mean?
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One day I'll get that big plot of land and I'll do all those
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cool things. I don't plan on getting a big
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plot of land. You know, we're we're.
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We can do plenty with what we have.
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But I mean, I think the idea of prepping is not necessarily to
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have, you know, 100% knowledge of everything.
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I mean, it's it's it's. Oh no, it's.
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An it's an ongoing journey. It's a lifestyle for sure.
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Yeah, it's definitely a lifestyle.
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But, you know, in the early days.
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And I think that's kind of what you're asking about in the early
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days of prepping when you're just getting started.
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You are shoring up before you get into all the fancy, you
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really are shoring up food, water, home security, first aid
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knowledge and also skill sets. You know what I mean?
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You're you're covering what I call the base level of
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preparedness. First you got to do those
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things. First you want to be prepared
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for. Whatever kind of weather events,
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natural disasters that hit your area on a regular basis, that's
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a great place to start. You know what I mean to say?
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We get hit by hurricanes. Whatever it is, I want to be
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prepared for that. This is what I need.
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Backup power, Gas generator, gasoline.
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Whatever it is because everybody's circumstance is a
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little different, but at the beginning you really are
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establishing your position and then you know, deciding how
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well. Prepared you want to be?
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Do I want to have? A week's worth of food, a week's
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worth of water. You know, you talk to me, I say
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a lot more than that. You need a lot more than that.
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Three to six months is probably where you want to be, you know,
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looking at the world nowadays. But all that takes time.
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It takes tremendous time to have the things that I have and do
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the things that I do because that's what it is, you know?
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But if you're just getting started, you can choose that
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timeline that you want to be safe and fortified in your home,
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at home, one week, two weeks, one month, whatever it is.
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And you build on that with, like I said, food, water, the ability
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to keep the lights on, charge devices, maybe some sort of
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emergency communications. And you'll be better prepared
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than most people around you, you know, just by taking action on
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those few things. And if you want to get excited
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about it, start off with your daily carry.
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Oh, the EDC, the old EDC. Yeah, that's.
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Is that still popular? That was a big thing, the EDC,
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for a long time. I still enjoy it.
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Yeah. I mean, oh, it is fun, no doubt
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about it. I mean, it is a it's a good
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thing. It's a good thing.
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Mine's expanded over the years. My EDC includes like my entire
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fishing outfit now. What?
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It does like I have a backpack. I always carry a backpack
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because I like to have like running shoes on and shorts
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because when the summer hits man I just I love running and
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working out in the hot weather. And So what I always carry a bag
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because you can't always holster A firearm effectively in certain
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kinds of shorts, you know what I mean?
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So I've put it in the backpack. And then over the years, I just
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realised that fishing is just always happening in life, you
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know, And it's one of those things that just because we all
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do it in my house. That I just carry a fishing
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backpack and it's not that big. It's also kind of a grey Manny
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type thing, right? I don't have a tactical backpack
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on where people are like what's up with that guy?
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It's a cast king backpack and you know it has fishing gear in
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it and also has, you know, spare magazines, tourniquet, you know,
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sewing kit, some what else do I have in that thing?
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Prepper later, like a recharge power bank in there.
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Those kinds of things you can carry bore in a backpack.
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You know what? I mean, spare knife, those kinds
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of things, so. I always carry a knife on me.
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Always. Yeah, why not?
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It's good to have a blade. It stinks when you don't have
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one and you need it, you know? It's actually, it's actually
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incredible how often you end up using a knife.
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Yeah. I'll tell you what I don't carry
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as much is a flashlight. Yeah.
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Yeah, but you don't need to if you have a cell phone.
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That's a good point. That's a good point.
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I think I probably should carry a headlamp.
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They are valuable. I'd rather nowadays, like there
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was a time when you had to have a cool tactical flashlight, you
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know what I mean? Like you had to have like an O
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Lite S1R flashlight when you were in the EDC crowd.
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I've got 1. Do you?
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I mean, I have one too. They're great.
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But now at this stage in my life, having done the things
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that I've done, you know, I take AI, take an Energizer headlamp
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over anything, you know what I mean?
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Because then both my hands are free.
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I can aim it, you know what I'm looking at.
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I'm actually lighting up and not forfeiting a hand.
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I don't have to find a magnetic thing to stick it to if I want
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to free up my other hand. The headlamp is just far
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superior. But it's not cool, you know what
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I mean? It's nowhere near as cool as
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like a tactical aircraft grade aluminium flashlight.
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But I mean, it's not just about what you carry, it's also
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knowing how to use this stuff. Oh yeah, yeah, that's 99% of
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people's problem nowadays over here.
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I have AI have a backpack that just came in for review and it's
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full of stuff, you know what I mean?
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And and I go through these backpacks from time to time that
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you can buy pre made. And you know, the biggest
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struggle when you buy a pre made backpack is not even choosing
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which one to buy, though if you want a recommendation, Lt
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survivals, they're the best of the best and the most
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affordable. It's it's actually using what's
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inside the bag, you know what I mean?
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And learning how to use what's inside the bag.
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And this is really tough for people who, particularly if
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you're not a camper slash hiker, it's not a lot of opportunity
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for you to do it. You know, there's not a lot
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opportunity for you to get out there with a survival bag on
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your back, walk it somewhere, open it up, pull out the
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emergency radio, pull out the whatever you're going to cook on
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right, the jet, jet boy or whatever it is in there it.
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So you got to build that into into your life.
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You got to build those things into your life for sure.
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But in terms of EDC, the biggest thing in the States is I know
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there's a bunch of people running around with the firearms
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they never shoot, maybe I've never shot, you know what I
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mean, as part of their EDC. You got to go to the range.
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You got to go to the range. You got to also put yourself in
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in, you know, serious position. You have to understand, probably
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the most fundamental for anybody who's carrying a firearm and
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thinks they're going to use it is, you know, know your target
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and what's beyond it. You know, Oh my God, there's a
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bad guy. Let me shoot him.
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Oh, wait, there's a little girl behind him, you know, and I
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missed because I'm not that good a shot, right?
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That's that doesn't happen here, surprisingly.
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But if things get kinetic in a lot of different places, it will
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happen, you know, because you have to be intentional about it.
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You learn it here when you go to get like a hunting licence, you
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learn that mentality because you could shoot somebody in the face
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who's wearing camo across the field if you're not careful.
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But yeah, same thing with medical, you know, you pack a
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bunch of medical. I I got real scared because it
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was, it was becoming increasingly popular to carry an
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entire individual first aid kit with all kinds of medical gear
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in it. And one of the things that was
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packed into these was decompression needle that you
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would stab somebody in the lung with should their lung have been
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punctured and filled with blood. And one of my worst fears was
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like, I get into some kind of situation and then some doofus
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with a knife fact doesn't know how to use it, come start
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stabbing me with the decompression needle in the
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heart or something. You know what I mean?
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You know, trying to do good. So, yeah, to your point, got to
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put some reps in cooking is the dark horse skill, though.
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It really is Like I didn't know that when I got into this thing.
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The carryover skills from being a chef, you know, like just like
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put knowing how to butcher stuff huge knowing, you know, how to
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separate ball joints from sockets.
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You know what I mean? In in animals a big deal.
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Well, you hunt, you know, and. Yeah, but I mean, I don't, I
23:41
don't know that stuff. Oh, you don't butcher your
23:44
stuff, you send it off. Yeah, I, I mean, it's fun.
23:49
I don't, I don't like to get, I don't like to get into the
23:52
animal too. Much like I'm not a fan either,
23:56
to be honest with you. I don't really like killing very
23:58
much, but I do it when it's got to be done, you know?
24:01
I just want to point out just on that, since you mentioned
24:04
hunting, yes, I do hunt and people think you hate animals if
24:08
you do that. I actually think it's a far
24:10
better way to to get meat or you go hunting than than than via
24:15
slaughterhouse. You know, and also just because
24:17
you're shooting an animal doesn't mean you hate the
24:19
animal. You you're trying your very best
24:21
to be as precise and efficient as possible.
24:24
Yeah, it's no fun. You know, like, I've butchered a
24:28
lot of things, killed a lot of animals that not even hunting,
24:32
like harvesting pigs, you know, I mean, that kind of stuff at,
24:36
you know, different places with different hosts from PBN.
24:40
And it always sucks for me. I never feel good, you know what
24:44
I mean? Like, I'll never like feel
24:46
really good about it. I always kind of carry guilt
24:49
about killing stuff and I think that's good.
24:53
I would hate it if I lost that, you know what I mean?
24:55
I would hate it if I could just kill something and be like, you
25:00
know, I feel like once that goes away you lose something.
25:02
But yeah, with the cost of food and everything nowadays and the
25:06
and the quality of food, like cooking is a thing, you know,
25:10
cooking is a literally a life saving thing.
25:13
I think if you were to rely on eating out exclusively and pre
25:18
made foods exclusively, like you probably lose a decade off your
25:22
life. I bet.
25:23
I bet a study could show the difference pretty easily between
25:26
people who ate home cooked meals for most of their life compared
25:30
to people who ate pre made prefab frozen fast food,
25:34
whatever meals. Health has to be radically
25:37
different, you know, rat, just from the sheer amount of
25:40
additives and things that go into you from a lifetime of
25:43
that, you know, so. You mentioned survival earlier.
25:49
I had the great pleasure of interviewing guy by the name of
25:52
Cody Lundeen. Have you heard?
25:53
Oh yeah, I loved Cody Lundeen when he was on with Dual.
25:58
Survival. Very, very few people who are at
26:02
his level. Oh, Cody, Yeah, he's all the way
26:04
in. I remember watching an episode
26:05
with my wife and they were on a mountain and covered in snow
26:09
and, and my man had socks on and that's it.
26:13
Normally he's barefoot, but for this episode he went way out,
26:16
put a pair of socks on. I was blown away.
26:18
So. Yeah, I mean he, he turned it
26:20
into a, a, an art. Yeah, yeah.
26:24
It's, I mean it, you know, in many ways it is.
26:27
It all comes down to like the the amount of time in a day, you
26:33
know what I mean? Like you, the only way you can
26:35
be a Cody Lundin is if it pays the bills and you're in the
26:38
woods all the time, you know, and most of us don't have that
26:42
privilege. So you got to figure out where
26:45
you want to spend your attribute points.
26:48
You know, life is definitely like a video game, right?
26:51
You get a certain amount of time and attribute points and got to
26:54
figure out where to spend them, you know, And that's, that's one
26:57
of the biggest challenges for well, really for everyone.
27:00
But when you're in the prepping world, it's a huge challenge for
27:02
sure. The whole thing though, is that
27:05
I mean the term prepper. It's strange to me because it
27:08
kind of sets you apart where the whole point of prepping is just
27:12
to be prepared for eventualities in your daily life.
27:16
Oh yeah, It's a divisive word. It's divisive in the community.
27:20
There are people who are 100% preppers who are like, don't
27:24
call me a prepper. I don't like that word.
27:26
You know, it's definitely it. It is a word that has power.
27:30
There's no doubt about it. It's a weird one because if you
27:33
just came out and said that you did the things that a prepper
27:36
does but didn't use the P word, people would be like, oh, that
27:39
sounds like a pretty cool life. But the moment you say I'm a
27:42
prepper, A doomsday prepper, then it's like, this guy's
27:46
crazy. And now we look at everybody
27:48
else in the world who's not a prepper and we go, these people
27:51
are crazy. Can you imagine living on a
27:53
planet like this at a time like this and not having extra food
27:55
and what? It seems insane to me, you know
27:59
what I mean? Not carrying a gun, not knowing
28:01
how to defend yourself in a world like the one we live in,
28:05
not being situationally aware. I mean, situational awareness is
28:11
probably, if you could, if you could figure out a way, and
28:16
maybe I should, to train the world on situational awareness
28:19
like you'd be a billionaire because it's a skill you don't
28:21
need a gun for. But.
28:23
The peripheral vision. Peripheral is a part of it, but
28:26
yes, situational awareness is the concept that we've all lost
28:29
because of our cell phones, which is just understanding
28:32
what's going on around you at all times and what threat level
28:36
you're experiencing, you know, and it's an important skill that
28:40
almost no one like takes advantage of anymore because
28:43
we're all like this, you know what I mean?
28:45
We're walking through the world like this distracted, so it's a
28:49
big one though. You said water cooking, fitness
28:54
huge. Yeah, another do you?
28:56
Say food, water, medical. Medical.
28:59
Yeah, I just before even before. Well, basic medical, right?
29:02
You don't have no medicine and no way to stop bleeding in your
29:06
house. But I'll tell you the one that I
29:09
think it should be way up there, probably right under food and
29:11
water is backup power. You know, we are a power hungry
29:14
society and our and our greatest survival tool of all, whether
29:18
you want to admit it or not, is that you know what I mean?
29:21
That thing does so much for you in terms of dealing with a real
29:25
deal emergency, right? Should the cell signal be gone
29:28
and all that? That's a different story.
29:30
But in most cases you want to figure out what's going on,
29:33
what's the weather like? When's it going to end?
29:35
Where's the threat? You know, call people that you
29:38
care about. All that's going to be done on
29:39
your cell phone. So at the very least, you know,
29:42
backup power should be something that you have on hand to some
29:46
degree. And that could be as cheap and
29:48
as simple as like I always recommend a laptop power bank.
29:52
You can buy like power banks that are like a, you know, like
29:55
a stick and they don't really do really well.
29:58
They barely charge your cell phone.
30:00
But if you buy a laptop power bank, they're about like this
30:02
size. You could charge your phone
30:05
multiple times on it or charge your phone, your wife's phone.
30:08
You know, if you can't, if you can't get anything else, can't
30:12
afford anything else and you just need some concept, the
30:15
backup power, that's probably the cheapest way to go with the
30:17
most effect. We've got a great book here.
30:21
Let's see if I can get this to show on the camera.
30:24
To the art of war. Big Book.
30:27
John Seymour, The New Complete Book of Self Sufficiency.
30:30
Oh man, that's very cool, that is.
30:33
I think that is. That is a whopper, wow.
30:37
And you got to build it, you know what I mean?
30:39
And the only way you build it is through hard, struggly type
30:42
things, you know, And, and that's why I think the fitness
30:45
is, is such an unparalleled thing when it comes to prepping
30:49
because they're meditation. Meditation is a lot harder than
30:54
you think. That's one of those things where
30:56
you can really build a sort of an unbreakable mindset.
30:59
I challenge. Any Marcus?
31:01
Go ahead, Marcus Aurelius. Oh, for sure.
31:03
Yeah. Yeah, it's a that's a tough one,
31:06
sitting still quietly without your phone.
31:09
You know what I mean? That stuff.
31:10
But really, physically demanding workouts is, to me, the best way
31:15
to build your willpower to build that mindset.
31:17
About that, yeah, just for a moment, just for a moment.
31:20
I know this is not going to interest a lot of.
31:22
Let's I've got a. Great example because I, just
31:25
yesterday I, I posted a, our prep, we have a prepper fit and
31:29
health section on our website, pbnfamily.com.
31:32
And I posted a, a heavy kettlebell workout routine for
31:36
our members over there. And that was a, that is the 90
31:40
LB Bigfoot kettlebell from on it.com.
31:44
I don't even know if they sell it anymore.
31:45
Actually, I got it years ago, but it's so sweet.
31:48
It's, it's a kettlebell with Bigfoot.
31:50
The head is, you know, Bigfoot and there's, you know, there's
31:53
not a lot you can do with a 90 LB kettlebell unless you're a
31:55
real animal. And so I wanted to put together
31:59
a workout that could show you, you know, deadlift, swings,
32:02
squats, overhead presses with 90 lbs.
32:05
You can do that if you're strong.
32:07
And yeah, it's those things that are demand.
32:11
This is why I like to work out in the heat like I talked about
32:14
earlier, because the heat adds another, another desire to quit.
32:20
And that's really all it is right at the end of the day,
32:22
that that what you're talking about in survival mindset is
32:25
just recognising when your body's like, I want to quit and
32:31
then push them past that. It happens easy with workouts.
32:35
It happens. Really.
32:37
You get to it real easy when you're working out in the heat.
32:39
Your body's like, we need to quit, it's too hot, bad things
32:42
are going to happen if you don't quit.
32:43
And then you just push through, push through.
32:45
And you know, you hear it. Everybody hears that little
32:48
voice, you know. I really do enjoy pushing some
32:52
weights. Of course, since the birth of
32:54
our of our little boy, it's been very, very difficult, but it's
32:59
getting a little bit easy now. I'll tell you what, But I'll
33:02
tell you one thing that really helps when your boy gets old
33:04
enough. My kids started doing this out
33:06
of nowhere. I don't think my wife likes it
33:09
very much, but it's so motivational that I can't stop
33:13
them from doing it. They call me fat all the time.
33:19
My wife. Does that like dad like dad's
33:22
fat right joke? Like, dude, like joking because
33:24
I'm not fat at all, but just like hearing it on a regular
33:28
basis, you get a whole nother gear out when you're running or
33:32
working out. And James, yeah, go ahead.
33:34
When you're, when you're, when your wife tells you you're fat,
33:37
that that cuts. Oh, I'm sure it does, but there
33:40
might be something to it. Jerm, you might be living too
33:44
good. Yeah, but I mean, look, you
33:47
know, just on, on that. I mean, this doesn't interest
33:49
many people, but I really do enjoy, you know, weight
33:54
training, more specifically barbell training.
33:57
And I've got my own setup in my in my garage.
33:59
So I'm I'm a member of at the gym and I have my own setup in
34:02
the. Garage.
34:03
I'm trying to I'm trying to decide which which I prefer, but
34:07
I think I'm going to go back to my.
34:09
I'd say keep both my advice go ahead.
34:12
Well I was going to say I I find going to the gym more
34:15
motivational. My advice to people, especially
34:18
when they're just starting to work out, is to build a
34:20
programme with as many options as possible.
34:24
Like you should have as many options as possible.
34:26
I have probably 10 different things I could do to work out,
34:30
you know what I mean? And I think that's vital because
34:32
I think you wake up some days and you're like, I don't want to
34:35
bench press today. That seems boring.
34:37
You know, I'd much rather swing kettle bells or go for a run or
34:41
do yoga or play VR boxing. Dude, the VR boxing is off the
34:47
charts right now. It's unbelievable.
34:50
You'll lose all. Kinds of weight.
34:51
You start doing that, you might have a heart attack.
34:53
You put something over your eyes.
34:55
Oh, it's tremendous. It's a game called Thrill of the
34:57
Fight, too. Look it up.
34:59
It's crazy. They have online multiplayer
35:02
now, Jeremy, you can fight little kids from across the
35:04
world, knock them out. It's fun.
35:08
No, it is a hell of a workout, though, to be honest.
35:10
I work out a lot and it is a hell of a workout, really.
35:14
But having those options gives you the ability to say, I don't
35:17
really want to work out today, but maybe I do want to go like
35:19
hike in the woods or something like that, you know, So put it
35:23
all on the table and it makes working out easier.
35:26
Something that we do fairly often is, I want to say camping,
35:33
but sometimes more often than not, it's glamping.
35:36
So. I got you.
35:38
But the the point is, is that we'll try and get out, you know,
35:43
into nature. Yeah, I went out one on a like a
35:47
freezing cold January a few years back by myself and just
35:51
set up camp. I didn't even wind up sleeping
35:53
there, but I set up camp all day, put the tent up.
35:56
I had the camping stove. I don't know if you ever use one
35:59
of those in the winter. They're fun.
36:02
And it was probably around like 8-6 or eight hours into the
36:05
whole thing where I was just like, I felt like free of
36:09
everything, you know what I mean?
36:12
Like, I guess it was enough time away from the phone and the
36:14
electronics and the Wi-Fi burning into your brain that it
36:17
was just like, Oh my God, I've levelled up.
36:22
So down here we have what's known as the Kalahari Desert.
36:26
Yeah, that's a big, it's a big stretch of of of desert in the
36:29
southern part of Africa. Huge.
36:31
It stretches across countries. You.
36:33
Can't be Kalahari desert. We, yes, we did about two years
36:38
ago. That's how scary.
36:41
Well, it's, I mean, it depends. It's huge.
36:43
So you, you, you go to like a game park.
36:47
Oh, like. A campaign and you camp in the
36:49
game park, which is what exactly what we did.
36:52
And I'll tell you what, it's beautiful, just that sun, the,
36:58
the heat, you know, driving, driving through the sand, seeing
37:03
animals, you know, really appreciating nature, you know,
37:07
at its most extreme. And then of course, we have
37:11
stuff in the vehicle. But you know, I, I took, I took
37:14
Flint along just to how? To play around I liked.
37:17
Yeah, just to play around. It's so much fun starting a fire
37:20
with leaves and twigs and Flint and.
37:24
Yeah, you. I mean, it's a.
37:25
Good way to practise. That's that's how it works.
37:28
You know, you don't just learn because you need to know the
37:30
skill, right? You always revert to your lowest
37:33
level of training. That's what they say, and that's
37:36
practical in the. Pressing world, but it's a funny
37:38
twist. It's a funny twist, this one
37:42
camper, he saw me doing this and I was struggling a little bit
37:45
with this Flint and not with the Flint, but but with the with the
37:49
leaves getting a going And he came, he walked all the way
37:54
across and he said, listen, I can see that you're struggling.
37:56
Can I can I help you with some matches?
37:58
I said no, no, no, I've got matches.
38:00
You're. Missing the point, Bella.
38:04
The whole point of prepping James is simply self sufficiency
38:08
and not relying on the government and other people.
38:11
Yeah, yeah. It's really not a that radical
38:13
an idea. It's basically how people have
38:16
survived for a long time. It's a little more isolated than
38:19
like tribal living, I guess was probably back then.
38:22
But it really is about that. And and because at the end of
38:26
the day, Jeremy, I don't know what your experience has been,
38:28
but my experience has been to rely on those institutions.
38:33
You usually get let down. Sometimes you're even worse off,
38:38
you know what I mean? Look at people who got shoved
38:40
into the Superdome in New Orleans during Katrina.
38:43
They relied on the government to set up a place, a safe place for
38:46
them. That place was filled with rapes
38:49
and robberies and the whole 9. It was worse off than if they'd
38:52
been left to their own devices. So I really do think it is it,
38:56
you know, you're always going to look out for yourself and your
38:58
family better than anybody else. There's no government official
39:01
that's going to say, I wonder how Jeremy's doing.
39:03
Let's go check his family out and give them everything they
39:05
need, You know what I mean? So it comes down to you, you
39:10
know, at the end of the day. If somebody is, you know, a
39:14
complete urban dweller and they're listening to this
39:16
conversation, James, and they're thinking, all right, I'm
39:19
inspired, where do I start? First thing I would do is give
39:24
someone a phone call outside of the city.
39:28
Establish that first place that you're going to go if the worst
39:31
case scenario happens in your city so that you know the red
39:36
lights are blinking. If you're if you're into
39:39
prepping, chances are you might even have a little bit of a head
39:41
start, but you can get out of that city if need be.
39:44
That's probably the best place to start first because it's
39:46
actionable, it's free, and it's usually like a phone call away.
39:51
You're calling an aunt, an uncle, a friend, a parent,
39:53
whatever, and just saying, hey, things get bad, I'm coming, I'll
39:57
bring XY and Z and me. Maybe you can work with them to
40:00
store a little extra stuff at their house too, so that they're
40:03
ready to take you in when you show up, you know, but.
40:06
That's sort of like the poor man's bug out location.
40:08
And it's it's what everybody in the city needs because you don't
40:12
want to be trapped in the city, you know, And then from there,
40:15
you know, you establish what, what's that route look like?
40:20
So what, how am I getting it out of this city?
40:23
What kind of gear might I need? What kind of backpack should I
40:26
put together? What should I wear so I don't
40:28
look like, you know, you don't want to kick the door out and
40:30
look like some kind of tactical madman with a Kevlar helmet on
40:34
or you're going to draw a lot of attention, right?
40:36
You want to look like you look like everybody else in your city
40:39
and just Mosey on out of there to safety.
40:42
So those two things I think are critical before you start,
40:46
before you start planning how you're going to grow food on
40:49
your rooftop, your quails in your closet, you know what I
40:52
mean? But you can stockpile food and
40:55
water in an apartment, in a studio, you know, you can put
40:58
1020 cases of water in the corner of even a small studio
41:02
and have a lot of water, particularly for 1-2 people
41:05
should water problems occur. You know, here in the city where
41:08
I live, we've had two instances where the water has been shut
41:11
off for days at a time or had to be boiled this year alone.
41:14
Real legitimate issues with the water.
41:18
And that's a problem most people can solve and get through.
41:21
But just medium prepping, you know, minor preps.
41:24
The thing the thing though, is that people will worry that the
41:26
water will go stale or the food will go off.
41:29
Well, you got to rotate your food.
41:31
Your water is going to be fine. You know, if you need water,
41:35
you're not going to be like, this is not Perrier, you know
41:39
what I mean? You're going to be like, oh, we
41:41
got bottled water. We're good.
41:43
Because remember, if you have older water, you can use that
41:45
for washing. You know what I mean?
41:47
You can use that for hygiene, whatever and drink the newest
41:51
stuff. But with food, you got to rotate
41:53
your inventory just like anybody else, anywhere else.
41:56
You know, you store extra food and you store the food that you
41:59
eat, right? You don't say we're going to
42:01
store a bunch of black beans because that's what the preppers
42:03
store. I never eat them, but we're
42:05
going to store them. You know, you store what you eat
42:08
so that you're rotating the stock anyway and that that way
42:11
you're never really stuck with too much food that's too old.
42:15
You know, that's sort of like inventory management 101 just on
42:18
a civilian or, or you know, citizen scale.
42:22
What about something like meat? You have a deep freeze or
42:25
something? You know, we just went through a
42:29
survival exercise where we ate survival food three days a week
42:34
and nothing four days a week. And one of the big what?
42:39
Nothing that we couldn't forge or hunt or kill or fish.
42:43
And one of the things that I found out is everybody needs
42:46
more protein and everybody needs more shelf stable protein,
42:50
myself included. And I have chickens that produce
42:53
eggs and that kind of stuff Outback.
42:55
But a freezer's OK. You know, when the power goes
42:59
out though, you're on a very short window and and then maybe
43:01
you have hundreds of dollars worth of meat that you're going
43:05
to lose. There are really good companies
43:08
out there, Caveman Foods, Keystone Foods that produce
43:13
decent, way better than your average canned meat.
43:17
There are companies out there. There's a company out there
43:19
called Prepper Beef that produces freeze dried steaks
43:23
diced so you can get strip steak diced up, precooked, freeze
43:27
dried. The other the thing that I'm
43:29
going to do is put protein powder on the shelf.
43:32
A lot more of it, a lot more of it because I supplemented with
43:35
that protein powder through our survival hell month and it made
43:39
a world of difference. I mean, it really did make a
43:41
world of difference. And in a, in a, in a bad
43:44
situation, you're going to want a protein source that's quick
43:47
and easy, something like that stirred in the water drink and
43:49
you got 360 calories and 30 grammes of protein, something
43:53
like that. So that's what I would do if I
43:56
were in a, especially if I were in a place where I had limited
43:59
space, I would say put the protein powder or some kind of
44:02
high protein snack on the shelf for that implicit reason, rather
44:06
than, rather than have to depend on a freezer, especially if
44:11
you're in a city, because you're on the grid, you're likely not
44:14
going to have backup power. So when the power goes out,
44:17
it's, you know, cook it all, fall at all, the salt at all,
44:21
something like that. But that's why camping also does
44:24
help because even if you're just having a bit of fun, you still
44:27
learn about some of those things.
44:29
Definitely. I mean when we when we went away
44:32
recently, we took a portable fridge that's powered off solar
44:37
panels, which we took with also. Oh cool.
44:39
Yeah, that's nice. That's a good little thing to
44:41
play with. That's gear that you need
44:43
practise with. I'm sure you got to figure out
44:44
where to set the panels to recharge it properly.
44:46
Yeah, we had a tough time because we had too many trees in
44:49
the one location. Yeah, see, those are the things
44:51
you want to learn. My friend Dave Jones, he's a
44:54
host of PBN. He always says, and I think this
44:56
is essential prepping advice, You never want to have too many
45:00
firsts, you know, in any operation.
45:04
You never want it when it all counts.
45:06
You never want to be doing everything for the first time.
45:08
It's first time I'm using this knife, first time I'm using
45:10
these solar panels, first time I'm using this gun, first time,
45:12
you know what I mean? This tent, the whole thing.
45:14
So to your point, that's what camping does.
45:17
Eliminates a lot of those firsts for you.
45:19
You haven't mentioned this but self defence.
45:21
I mean, not everybody can carry a gun or even a knife for that
45:25
matter, but you need to be able to defend yourself.
45:28
Yeah. I mean, unfortunately, like it
45:31
really is one of those back to the attribute points kind of
45:35
thing. You know, it, it really comes
45:38
down to what you're going to put your time and effort into
45:40
because self defence is a big question.
45:43
You know, one of the cool things that that, that are around
45:45
everywhere now are MMA gyms. And I think, I think learning
45:50
basic jujitsu and basic Muay Thai are probably the quickest
45:54
ways to learning how to defend yourself, you know what I mean?
45:58
But it you got to put a year in before you really know what
46:01
you're doing, you know what I mean?
46:02
You're going to have to spar people to know that what you
46:06
know, what you think you know actually works, you know, and
46:10
then you got to upkeep it. You know, I went to an MMA gym
46:13
for like a year and then hung a heavy bag Outback.
46:16
And you know, you can keep up with it.
46:19
You can keep sharp, You can, you know, one of the things that
46:22
people don't, one of the things that people take for granted all
46:25
the time is we have weak typewriter fingers and fists.
46:31
You know what I mean? Like you whack somebody in the
46:33
head with your fist and break it into societal collapse or even
46:39
in a long term disaster. Now you got a broken hand on top
46:43
of all your other problems, you know, so hitting a punching bag,
46:46
doing those kinds of things, it'll strengthen your hands and
46:49
toughen your body up. I think that's important too.
46:52
But yeah, yeah, it's all about time.
46:55
And you know what you want to prioritise.
46:57
I think everybody should know how to fight though.
46:59
Think if everybody knew how to fight, it would be a much cooler
47:01
place to exist in because people wouldn't be so ready to fight,
47:05
you know, all the time they. 'D also be less crime.
47:08
Yeah, I think so. I think so.
47:10
I think people would say now that doesn't look like too easy
47:13
a target, you know, it's always the easy targets.
47:15
So, but it takes time. Everything takes time really to
47:21
people who are new and who are just getting started, like don't
47:25
discount doing things today and then from there it's 1 foot in
47:28
front of the other and do something every day.
47:31
You know, something easy. Efficiency, James.
47:34
Self sufficiency. Yeah, well, you know what it
47:37
comes down to Germ, is self discipline really.
47:41
You know, it's one thing to want to be prepared.
47:44
It's one thing to want to have these skills or these weapons or
47:47
these. But at the end of the day,
47:48
you're only going to get prepared if you have the
47:50
discipline to get up every day and do the things that you need
47:53
to do, you know, and that that's outside of work, that's outside
47:56
of family that. So you got to do all that.
47:59
And then you got to have the discipline to say, I could play
48:02
Call of Duty right now, but I'm gonna go hit the punching bag
48:06
for 20 minutes and, you know, get my cardio up, toughen my
48:09
knuckles up, that kind of thing. That that's my life, man.
48:12
That's what it takes. It takes that kind of
48:14
discipline. Not that I don't do my fair
48:16
share of video gaming, virtual reality, boxing, but you know,
48:21
you got to have that discipline piece for sure.
48:24
But there's also, there's also a sense of manliness.
48:27
You know, you were talking at the beginning of the
48:29
conversation about this being connected to men.
48:32
Oh, yeah. Women can also be prepped,
48:34
obviously. Oh, for sure.
48:36
Well, who? I mean, they bring a lot of
48:38
things to the table, especially usually on the cooking side, you
48:42
know what I mean? And on the foraging side and on
48:44
the healing side, they, they have an intuition built into
48:49
them that we don't have, you know what I mean?
48:52
And it goes a long way. And then of course, you know,
48:55
the whole, the whole motherhood thing is really handled by the
49:01
women, you know what I mean? In terms of like the midwives
49:05
and those kinds of things. Like that's the way people gave
49:08
birth all the time and long before it was customary to wind
49:12
up at a hospital, you know what I mean?
49:13
To to give birth, it was midwives and neighbours and
49:16
people in the group that came over and helped with the labour
49:19
and all that kind of stuff. And wet nurses feeding other
49:22
people's babies. Like, yeah, that's like I said
49:26
there. It's just those old skills that
49:28
re are resurfacing and people are going, yeah, maybe better
49:32
than maybe it's weird, but maybe better than corn corn syrup
49:38
based baby formula, you know what I mean?
49:43
I went through a phase a couple years ago, James, when I was
49:47
trying to carry as much stuff on me on a daily basis, but with
49:53
but without it's showing. Yeah, you had one of those, one
49:56
of those jackets with like 50 pockets.
49:59
Did you ever see those things? I forget what they were called.
50:02
There was a jacket going around with all those pockets.
50:04
You look ridiculous in it though.
50:06
Definitely, definitely. There was a time where I used to
50:08
carry a full size Flint and steel on my key chain.
50:14
My brother in law used to laugh at me about it and looking back
50:18
now, I laugh at me about it. But sometimes when you in the
50:21
early days of prepping germ, you get scared, you get petrified
50:25
because there's a certain amount of information that you're
50:28
taking in on a daily basis when you're prepping too, which is
50:31
what am I prepping for? Oh, bio warfare.
50:33
Well, what's that look like? How bad can that go?
50:36
An economic collapse? OK, what's that look like?
50:39
How bad can that be? So some of it does come from a
50:41
place of fear. I mean, there's always some of
50:43
it that comes from a place of fear, you know?
50:45
And sometimes that's great motivation too, but it makes you
50:49
do silly. Stuff backfires it, but it also
50:51
backfires sometimes like I, I've been, you know, at the airport,
50:56
we have forgotten that I've got like some sharp objects or knife
50:59
or whatever only and then they, you know, you can't go through
51:02
the. Escape that.
51:03
Oh yeah, that's the worst. Well, I bought AI bought a
51:06
bucket of red wheat, hard red wheat when I was really nervous.
51:12
Early days of prepping 5 gallon bucket full of hard red wheat.
51:15
Now remember, I'm chef trained college, great restaurants in
51:19
Philadelphia. I worked in them.
51:22
Maybe the one ingredient in the world I didn't know what to do
51:24
anything with was hard red wheat.
51:26
I didn't have a grinder and I bought a whole bucket of it just
51:30
because I read enough prepping blogs at the time and I was
51:32
scared enough that I said, oh, I guess I need to buy that against
51:37
all rationale, you know, So yeah, you could get trapped.
51:41
You could definitely make some terrible decisions like carrying
51:44
40 knives on your person. I was actually just chatting
51:49
this morning to the local gun store.
51:54
You've obviously got a hunting rifle.
51:56
Yeah, 30 out six. Yep.
51:58
OK. I was about to ask you.
52:00
OK, All right. So I'm guessing that's where
52:02
this is going to go. So I've got a three O 8.
52:04
Nice. But there's but there's a big
52:07
rivalry between 30 O six and three O 8.
52:09
Yeah, I mean, I just bought it because it was huge and I wanted
52:13
to. I wanted to.
52:14
When I bought it, I bought it as a new hunter and I said let me
52:17
get a nice big round so that when I hit a deer with it, it's
52:20
dead. You know, I don't from shock or
52:23
I have no clue. It's not very long, I don't
52:27
know. Oh no, mine, mine's got a
52:28
slightly shorter barrel so I can put a silence on.
52:31
Oh OK, yeah mine is not a tactical looking weapon.
52:34
It is a scoped hunting rifle for sure, you know.
52:37
No, mine too. OK.
52:39
So CZ. I got you.
52:40
Mine is a savage, Pretty low budget, 30 out six.
52:45
I bought it probably 10 years ago now, you know, but it does
52:48
it. It gets the job done, I mean.
52:51
Some. Yeah, my brother in law got
52:54
angry. He said no, you must get a
52:56
thirty O 6. No, I don't really have much of
52:59
that in me. I know guys who fight over their
53:01
AR fifteens versus their AK-40 Sevens and that kind of stuff.
53:05
But I'm pretty simplistic with guns.
53:07
Sure, you know what I mean? I've shot both and I must tell
53:10
you I prefer the AK47. Yeah, I don't know.
53:14
It's just, it's just more gangster.
53:17
Yeah, I mean, aesthetically it is villain.
53:19
It's a villainous weapon for sure, but I don't know, I feel
53:22
like an AR15, you barely even feel it.
53:24
It's just, it's a cool weapon because it's just, it's like
53:27
shooting a 22 rifle almost, you know?
53:30
An AR15 is a great gun, however James the fact that they make
53:35
them now in pink. You can't get a pink
53:39
Kalashnikov. I'm sure you can.
53:45
I mean, so, I mean, there's a name that's going around now for
53:47
the pink ARS. What do they call it?
53:50
They call it a Barbie doll gun. Oh, the Barbie AR OK.
53:54
And you can take it apart, you see, like a Barbie doll.
53:56
Then you can put it. You can put different parts on
53:58
it well. There's a lot of prima donnas in
54:00
the gun community, I can tell you that much, so it's probably
54:03
a pretty apartment name. OK James, this coming for a
54:08
landing, how can I follow your work?
54:13
I mean, the best thing to do, you could just plug in Prepper
54:15
Broadcasting Network into any search engine on your phone, any
54:20
podcasts provider, any social network.
54:24
Well, I think we're pretty much everywhere now, You know what I
54:26
mean? You, you'd look up the Prepper
54:28
Broadcasting Network. You'll find podcasts, video
54:31
podcasts, that kind of stuff. Our our landing site is
54:35
prepperbroadcasting.com. Oh, it's as easy as that.
54:40
That's it. I thought you were going to.
54:42
All right. Well, on that note, James
54:44
Walton, thank you for joining me in the trenches.
54:47
Always a pleasure, man. Talk to you soon.