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"Below Deck Med's" Chief Stew Tumi Talks Chaotic Season · Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel

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  Speaker 1: I'm Rachel Uchitel. I wanted to start off by thanking
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  Speaker 1: you so much for your continued support. You are why
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  Speaker 1: we do this. So for today's episode, if you're a
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  Speaker 1: Bravo fan like I am, you're gonna love it. We
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  Speaker 1: have Toomey from Below Deck Med. What I love about
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  Speaker 1: Below Deck franchise is that unlike all the other reality shows,
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  Speaker 1: this cast actually is working while shooting the season. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean like the way the cast of Vanderpump works.
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  Speaker 1: These yachties are actually living and breathing their job aboard
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  Speaker 1: a boat with very particular and wealthy clientele that expect
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  Speaker 1: five-star service no matter what drama they might have going on.
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  Speaker 1: And the cameras are there to just catch all of it.
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  Speaker 1: As chief stew, Tumi stays out of the fray most
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  Speaker 1: of the time. So we were excited to get to
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  Speaker 1: know her better. She was born in South Africa and
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  Speaker 1: grew up with a large blended family. She manifested her
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  Speaker 1: way into the yachting industry with the help of some
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  Speaker 1: quarantine creativity and her Instagram feed. I think that story
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  Speaker 1: is really going to surprise you. It's such a great story.
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  Speaker 1: And she's actually very inspirational the way she does it.
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  Speaker 1: She gives us the inside scoop on the reality of
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  Speaker 1: yachting versus the reality of yachting on TV. If you're
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  Speaker 1: interested in working in the industry or if you're interested
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  Speaker 1: in taking that first yacht vacation, you're going to want
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  Speaker 1: to listen up. Tumi is a no bullshit kind of girl,
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  Speaker 1: which I love. So get ready for some rumors to
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  Speaker 1: be cleared up and maybe some new ones to be started.
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  Speaker 1: To me, it's so exciting to have you here on Misunderstood.
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  Speaker 1: How are you today?
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  Speaker 2: I'm great. How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm great. So where are you in the world right now?
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  Speaker 2: I'm currently in New York City, and it's freezing. Oh, yes,
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  Speaker 2: it is.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm in Florida, so it's a little warmer, but
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  Speaker 1: you're not in the Mediterranean somewhere on a yacht, correct?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. And it's not the season yet,
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  Speaker 2: so we're not ready to go yet.
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  Speaker 1: Got it. Okay. So it's funny because we have a
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  Speaker 1: mutual connection that kind of helped me get you on
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  Speaker 1: this show. I mean, obviously everyone knows who you are
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  Speaker 1: and I knew who you were, but we share someone
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  Speaker 1: in common who is an astrologist. I was just curious,
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  Speaker 1: do you believe in astrology? Do you use that to
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  Speaker 1: sort of help you make decisions or you're just, we're
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  Speaker 1: having fun listening, having fun? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. I totally believe in astrology. And Amy
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  Speaker 3: was actually one of the first people to like really
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  Speaker 3: get me into it. And every year I always get
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  Speaker 3: a reading from her because I'm like, OK, we can conquer.
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  Speaker 2: We can do that. It really helps, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I was curious if you think it's it's been something
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  Speaker 1: where you've seen actual tangible things that she's predicted.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. And, you know, in the moment when she
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  Speaker 2: reads it, sometimes I'm like, oh, Amy, I really hope
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  Speaker 2: it's not true. I don't know if I believe that.
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  Speaker 2: And then by the end of the year, I'm like, yep,
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  Speaker 2: Amy called it.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: That's very interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just started having her do my readings and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure if I fully believe in it yet, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to see where it takes me, but it
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  Speaker 1: is very interesting. That whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's so interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I wanted to talk about who to me
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  Speaker 1: is before the girl that we know on the screen.
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  Speaker 1: I know you were born in South Africa. Can you
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  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about your childhood?
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was born.
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  Speaker 3: In Johannesburg, South Africa, which is probably like our New
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  Speaker 3: York of Africa. I grew up there my whole life,
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  Speaker 3: stayed in the same house, the same area, went to
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  Speaker 3: one school, have a group of friends that I've had
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  Speaker 3: for years and years and years.
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  Speaker 2: So we had a pretty good life back there.
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  Speaker 3: Grew up with a garden, grew up with animals, you know, so.
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  Speaker 2: It was a really good life.
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  Speaker 1: And do you have a, do you come from a
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  Speaker 1: big family? I do.
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  Speaker 2: I do come from a very blended family as well.
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  Speaker 3: So I've got like six siblings, two stepbrothers, one half sister,
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  Speaker 3: one adopted sister.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And are you still close to everybody? Are they still there?
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  Speaker 1: Did they move to America also?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got two brothers that are here in America
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  Speaker 3: and my sisters are back in South Africa.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: OK, so I know you've spoken a little bit in
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  Speaker 1: a confessional about something that a tragedy that happened when
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  Speaker 1: you were younger. Can you talk about what it's like
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  Speaker 1: to lose your your father?
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  Speaker 3: I guess at that age, it was super confusing because
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  Speaker 3: it was so sudden.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't something that I think any of us expected.
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  Speaker 3: And it's just crazy because sometimes with death, like everything
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  Speaker 3: just changes overnight.
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  Speaker 2: And so it was pretty hard.
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  Speaker 3: In the beginning, but eventually, you know, life goes on
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  Speaker 3: and you kind of get used to the new normal.
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  Speaker 3: But at first, it definitely was a shock to every
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  Speaker 3: single one of us, including the community.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Well, you, and you found out, it sounded like
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  Speaker 1: you were about to have a dance performance, some sort
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  Speaker 1: of performance, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was actually on that topic.
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  Speaker 3: I was, I was a lead, my first lead in
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  Speaker 3: my ballet concert. So without me, it wasn't really a show.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, we were really young. I think we
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  Speaker 2: were like seven, eight.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like they have like someone on the side
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  Speaker 3: that can fill in for you.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: There wasn't an understudy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So it was a bit of a, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: would have been, it just, they wouldn't be a show.
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  Speaker 3: And I would remember just being so excited. It was my,
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  Speaker 3: you know, my first time and I loved ballet. I
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  Speaker 3: took it so seriously. So yeah, that day was my
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  Speaker 3: first show. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: And for people that don't know what we're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: can you explain what happened to your father? Because it
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  Speaker 1: was sudden and it was a complete tragedy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so my dad was murdered. It was an apparent hijacking.
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  Speaker 3: And he ended up in hospital for.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of days.
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  Speaker 3: But when they decided to pull the plug, that night
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  Speaker 3: was the night that I had to go perform my
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  Speaker 3: ballet concert.
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  Speaker 2: So, I mean, you know, I didn't have to do it.
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  Speaker 3: But at the same time, I was like, this is
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  Speaker 3: something that I have always wanted. wanted and I was
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  Speaker 3: so excited about it and I also didn't want to
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  Speaker 3: let people down and yeah so I ended up dancing
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  Speaker 3: but you know dancing at the same time as therapy
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  Speaker 3: now that I'm a faculty.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah probably wasn't the worst thing to do.
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  Speaker 1: No it was probably you know took your mind off
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  Speaker 1: of it and it made you feel like you were
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  Speaker 1: doing something for you did your family show up for
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  Speaker 1: you or were they at the hospital like what what
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  Speaker 1: happened no they were.
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  Speaker 3: At home I mean they had to be at home
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  Speaker 3: yeah Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I had more than one show.
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  Speaker 1: Got it.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, the other shows they were there.
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  Speaker 1: How do you think that affected you? I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm somebody who my father also died when I was 15.
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  Speaker 1: My headmaster at my boarding school had to tell me,
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  Speaker 1: you are much younger, but I know what that is
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  Speaker 1: like to lose somebody. It was a very sudden, tragic,
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  Speaker 1: thing that happened. So to hear something like that when
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  Speaker 1: it's completely unexpected as a child, for me, I know
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  Speaker 1: that that affected me. It affected my relationship with men
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  Speaker 1: going forward. It really affected me. So I'm curious how
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  Speaker 1: that affected you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it completely changed me forever.
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  Speaker 3: I truly believe if you lose a parent at any age,
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  Speaker 3: there's a part of you that completely changes.
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  Speaker 2: And it's almost like you lose a part of yourself.
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  Speaker 3: And I think And I didn't realize the effect until
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  Speaker 3: I was about 18 when I left home. Because I
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  Speaker 3: left home at 18 and went and lived on my own.
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  Speaker 3: I went to another city. I started a whole, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I went to college.
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  Speaker 2: I started a new life. And I was like, holy crap. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I actually do need.
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  Speaker 3: My dad now because now I'm meeting boys. It was
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  Speaker 3: easier not to, like, entertain the men thing in high school.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't know what to do.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know to, like.
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  Speaker 5: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
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  Speaker 5: for it?
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  Speaker 2: This.
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  Speaker 4: Exclusive place that dad has connections with they've more cars
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  Speaker 4: for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
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  Speaker 5: You have to put me in touch what's it called.
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  Speaker 4: It's Dune ADL where Dune ADL there's an accent on
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  Speaker 4: the e do you mean yes I got it on
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  Speaker 4: Dune Deal cars lift Please.
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  Speaker 5: You're going past Kimmage?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 6: Done deal cars.
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  Speaker 7: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
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  Speaker 3: Decipher between if a guy's being serious, if they're being truthful,
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  Speaker 3: if they're genuine, if they're not, if they really love me,
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  Speaker 3: if they don't, because.
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  Speaker 2: I was like robbed of that experience.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So it definitely changes you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it's, you know, that relationship, especially as a young girl,
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  Speaker 1: having a father and losing him, It's so terrible because
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, you know, that's the one man you
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  Speaker 1: learn what unconditional love is from someone of the opposite sex.
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  Speaker 1: And when you don't grow up with that, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's really hard to learn what that is and to
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  Speaker 1: decipher and kind of know your way. So for me,
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  Speaker 1: it's been something that was, it's always been hard to
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  Speaker 1: figure out.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. Tons of therapy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. So, all right. So, so what got
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  Speaker 1: you to the place where you decided you wanted to
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  Speaker 1: go into yachting? Like, did you like boats? Did you
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  Speaker 1: like sailing?
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  Speaker 3: I was just tired of like the nine to five
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  Speaker 3: corporate jobs.
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  Speaker 2: Living.
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  Speaker 3: I was so sick and tired of it. I remember I,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I finished my internship. I worked at a
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  Speaker 3: photographic agency and it was in an environment that was
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  Speaker 3: aligned with like my interests. And I still wasn't happy.
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  Speaker 3: Then I moved into the restaurant business and did social
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  Speaker 3: media management. And I just couldn't stand the fact that
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  Speaker 3: I have to wake up at the same time, go
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  Speaker 3: home at the same time and do the same thing
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  Speaker 3: week after week.
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  Speaker 1: Like I just, where were you living now?
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  Speaker 2: In Cape Town.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So you were still there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was still in South Africa.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, Cape Town is one of the most
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  Speaker 3: creative cities in South Africa. And I was like, if
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  Speaker 3: I'm not happy here, then, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: We have to figure something out.
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  Speaker 3: And then I was in the office one day and
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  Speaker 3: one of my colleague's cousin came in and she's like,
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  Speaker 3: I work in yachting. And I had no idea what
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  Speaker 3: it was. And it just, the seed was planted from there.
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  Speaker 1: So how did you get your first job? What did
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  Speaker 1: you do?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I was stuck in quarantine and at home. And
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  Speaker 3: I just decided, I was so frustrated because, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we couldn't get work and they weren't flying people out
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  Speaker 3: of South Africa.
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  Speaker 2: So I just decided.
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  Speaker 3: To do what stews do on yachts and document it
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  Speaker 3: and kind of train myself. So I didn't even know
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  Speaker 3: how to fold like a fitted sheet. So then I'd
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  Speaker 3: do like little fitted sheet folds and then just put
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  Speaker 3: it on Instagram. I don't know how to fold napkins.
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  Speaker 3: So then I started folding napkins. I started training myself
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  Speaker 3: how to iron sheets, like super good, how to make beds.
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  Speaker 3: And I just literally documented that and put it all
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  Speaker 3: on Instagram. And it just got traction. And someone picked
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  Speaker 3: me up and was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yo, you need to come.
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  Speaker 5: Hold on.
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  Speaker 1: This is during COVID and you are home ironing sheets
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  Speaker 1: and folding your bed and putting it on Instagram?
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  Speaker 5: 100%.
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  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: That's like, you know, that old, you know, what they say, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you build it, it will come or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Like you couldn't get out and get the job. So
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  Speaker 1: you like created it in your home and it came
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  Speaker 1: to you. I think that's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of just loved it. I guess that's like manifesting.
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  Speaker 3: You know, some people say you manifest, but you have
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  Speaker 3: to generate manifesting. And I was just generating that energy.
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  Speaker 3: Like I want this. It's not here, but let me
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  Speaker 3: just become that thing that I want.
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  Speaker 1: And would you read books or watch other videos about
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  Speaker 1: what you were supposed to do? How'd you know how
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  Speaker 1: to fold corners on the bed?
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: YouTube, YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. Everything you need is on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so tell me about the first time you had
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  Speaker 3: So I found her. So she found me on Instagram.
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  Speaker 3: And then we had a phone call. And she said,
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  Speaker 3: I'm on this boat. And we're happy to bring on
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, of course I would.
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  Speaker 2: So I actually started my yachting career in West Palm Beach, Florida.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Amazing.
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  Speaker 5: That's where I am.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it was for a private... um you know
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  Speaker 1: rich dude or it was like for a yacht that
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: changed over different uh uh guests yeah i know.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: It was a private boat it was private charter but mainly.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Private okay okay and so and that's where you got
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: your real training and that's where i got the real
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: training and how long was it before you.
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  Speaker 5: Were the car is beautiful where did you end up
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  Speaker 5: going for it.
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  Speaker 4: This exclusive place that data's connections with they have more
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  Speaker 4: cars for more dealerships than, like, anywhere else.
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  Speaker 5: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
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  Speaker 6: It's Dune-A-D-L.
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  Speaker 3: Where?
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  Speaker 6: Dune-A-D-L. There's an accent on the E.
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  Speaker 5: Do you mean.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, I got it on Done Deal Cars.
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  Speaker 4: Lift, please.
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  Speaker 5: Are you going past Kimmage?
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, Kimmage.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: No.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: Done Deal Cars.
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  Speaker 7: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: By the show oh i was like six months in
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: five five five and a half months in i was
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: just finishing off my training because normally it takes six
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: months in total to go from like green to junior
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: stew so it's just finishing um and that's when they
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: contacted me.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: And were you living, I mean, listen, I'm in Palm
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Beach myself. I know a lot of guys who have yachts.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: They're not even here half the time. So I'm curious,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: were you living on the boat and it was a
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: working boat and you guys were going out at sea
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: or like you were living in a hotel or something
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and coming in daily?
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: No, so we were living on the boat.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: We were, yeah, he didn't come too often, but we
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: were living on the boat.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, wow. And when they're not there, are you still
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: working all the time or is it just like a free-for-all?
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: No, it's still nine to five, except you have your
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: evenings off.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Okay. So did you apply? Had you watched Below Deck
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: before you even got on the show?
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Did you apply?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Did someone contact you? Tell me how it happened.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: So I had watched, I think, one or two or
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: three episodes.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: I knew of it.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: So then when they contacted me, I was very much
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: aware of it.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: They actually contacted me twice.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: I think.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: And then the one time I was like, nah, I'm
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: not ready.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: And was that also because of your social media that
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: they contacted you? How did they find you?
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Well, they found me from my social media page.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, how many followers did you have? That's like shocking.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I had like, I think because it was a stewardess page.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I think I had like a thousand and something thousand
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: seven hundred, but I grew very quickly.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Like it was not that much.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: So I think that's really important for listeners to hear,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: no matter how many followers you have, because so many
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: people think you have to buy followers or you have
• 21:42
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  Speaker 1: But what you're saying is really important. The show found you.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Bravo found you because of this little social media page
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: that you just spent a lot of time on and
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  Speaker 1: you really cared about. It was like a real transparent,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. That's 100%. I mean, you don't need a
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  Speaker 2: lot of followers to be honest.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: So, okay. So tell me, you obviously agreed to do it.
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  Speaker 1: And what was the, what, what is that process like
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  Speaker 1: of interviewing? Like explain to people who are kind of upset.
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  Speaker 1: There are people that are obsessed with your show, you know?
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  Speaker 1: So they want to know everything from soup to nuts
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  Speaker 1: about how you interview, how you, you know, how, what
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: happens from the beginning to the point where they're like,
• 22:26
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So you go through an interview process.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: I guess you interview with casting first.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: And then I think they pitch it to the network.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: And then you interview with the network. And then they
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: tell you if they've chosen you or not, basically. It's
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  Speaker 1: And were your hopes really high or you really didn't care?
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, I wasn't bothered if I got it or not.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So, and they finally say to you, okay, you've
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  Speaker 1: got the part. How does that work? Then are they like,
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  Speaker 1: you have 30 days to get your stuff in order
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  Speaker 1: and meet us on the boat?
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think I had like two weeks or something.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I think I had two weeks or three weeks. I mean,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: I had to quit my job.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Which was scary because the captain was not happy. Right.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: And then I, yeah, then I flew to Miami and
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: then we were on our way to Australia.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, so wait a minute. I think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people have questions about how this works in terms of
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: payment and if it's a real thing. So were you
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: making a decent living in Palm Beach with this other gentleman?
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Honestly, no, because I was a junior, Stu.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I was earning the lowest and we weren't like a
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: heavy charter yacht. So it wasn't great money, but it
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  Speaker 3: was just entry level, if.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: That makes sense.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: And then when you're going on this show, I think,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: you know, my question is like, we all see you
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: get tips at the end, but are you actually being
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: paid separately? Like you're working a nine to five job? Like,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: how does that work?
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So you do get a base salary and then you
• 26:39
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• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Right so I think that's interesting because that's different than
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: reality shows because you're one of the few shows where
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: you're actually working I mean it's not acting yeah I
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: mean part of it is you know acting in your
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: scene or whatever but um you really are are working
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and have to you know do all the extracurricular things
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: but like you have to do a real job.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: 100% yeah.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: No, we're busting our ass.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: That's why I look disheveled half the time because we're
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: actually working. Right.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: So they're not starting you off in hair and makeup
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: every morning.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: No.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: And I think, and it's interesting because I feel like
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: people think that they do and people's like, Oh my.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: God, why does this person's hair look like this? I'm like,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, but I'm sweating my tits off. Okay.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I am exhausted. I have bags under my eyes.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Like I wish I had hair and makeup sitting next
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: to me every single morning, but I don't because this
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: is a real job.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: So.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, and what was that like?
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I thought it would look like that.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Well, you're beautiful, so you look good all the time.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: But I know what you mean. It's not a good
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: feeling when you don't get that extra oomph. So what
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: was it like the first day you showed up? Did
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you know who was going to be on the show
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: with you? Or do they surprise you?
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: No, I had no idea. They always surprise you.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: And were you aware of some of the cast members
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: when you walked on that boat and you saw who
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: was there?
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: My first one, no. My first season, I didn't. My
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: second season, I did. Okay.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about your first season just for a second.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: You were with some pretty high profile people. You were
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: with Captain Jason, correct? And Aisha, how do you pronounce
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: her name? I never get it right.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Aisha.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Aisha, right. How was your experience that first year? It's
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: your first year on TV. It's your first year doing
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: this kind of job and getting film doing it. And
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: it was a step up, I'm assuming, from being on
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: one gentleman's private yacht to a yacht that has turnover
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: every week. So talk about the difference there.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I absolutely had a blast my first season.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: for it?
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: It's Dune ADL.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Where?
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: Dune ADL. There's an accent on the E.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Do you mean.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Lift? Please.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: Are you going past Kimmage?
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, Kimmage.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: No.
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: Dundale Cars.
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: That was the most incredible experience.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: I honestly, I don't even have one awful or bad
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: thing or I just, I loved it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I really did love it a lot.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: And it was also, I think it was the perfect
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: bunch of people to start this journey with, if that
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: makes sense. And we all genuinely had a good time
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: with each other, you know? And that's why sometimes I
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: think you don't see much drama because... It was just
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: so much fun. I'm still stunned by that.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I really had a great time off this season.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of the misconceptions that people don't
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: understand about the show. For example, guests really pay. It's funny.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I was actually, they called me and asked me a
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: couple times if I wanted to be a guest on
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: one of these shows. And people don't realize this is
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: like a paid thing. appearance, you know? And, but at
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the same time, the guests are expecting five-star service from you.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: So you're, you're really fulfilling two roles. I mean, you're
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: trying to have a storyline, but at the same time,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: you're fulfilling a real need for guests that are there
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: on a real trip.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And I, yeah. And that's what people, you're right.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: That's what people don't realize is that when they pay
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: so much for this and I'm a real yachty.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: So I take it seriously.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: And I know that if I'm going to invest a
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: lot of money into something, I expect a service.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: So if I have high standards, well, yes, I have
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: high standards because they're paying an exuberant amount of money.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: So it's like, that's what.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: I expect from my team. That's what I expect from everyone.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Um, so yeah, that misconception, sometimes people get a.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Bit confused, but I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be okay
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: if your bed wasn't made at a certain time, or
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: if your towels weren't picked up from the floor, you know.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: It's like, come on.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, of course.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: So you've done two seasons of the show. You were
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: on Down Under with Captain Jason, as we said, and
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: then you got a promotion to Chief Stew on this
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: past season of Below Deck. Yeah. Were you so excited
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: when you got that promotion?
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: I was really excited because I was already transitioning into
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Chief Stew previously. um at the time anyway so I
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: was like this is perfect I knew I was ready
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: and so I was really really excited.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: How for you did the two seasons differ I mean
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: you played such different roles but you know just give
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: me a little succinct depending on how it differed.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah the second season was definitely way more intense I
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: also think that the personalities from the first season were
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: just super chilled you know And everyone was a little
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: bit more, I don't want to say mature, but they
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: were older. No one really wanted to deal with drama.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: You know, it was just different. It was very, very different.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Definitely a more relaxed environment.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I'm curious if you watched season two of Down Under.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I watched a little bit, but I'm friends with them,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: so I heard everything.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Right. So as we all know, there was a lot
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: of drama with season two, and there was a lot
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: of drama with Laura and Luke. Do you know Laura
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: and Luke?
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: No, thank God.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Okay. I'm curious if you were Chief Stu on that yacht,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: would you have handled the situation the same way?
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: A hundred percent.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: My God and Luke off that boat. Yeah.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: So what I find.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: I'm also saying this because I know Lucia.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: And I know she would never intervene if her heart
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: wasn't really sensing something. She's normally super chilled. She doesn't
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: give a flying hoot what anyone does. But if her
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: tethers were, something was wrong. Okay.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: So as a viewer, what I found interesting is that
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: obviously on all of your shows, crew members are getting together,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: they're dating or sleeping together, however you want to label it.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of drinking that goes on. And I think...
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Some people took the side of, you know, this was
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: all normal because it always happens and it just got
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit too far, but it wasn't a big deal.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: And it was all very normal. And it was like
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: made for TV to look terrible. And then some people
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: were like, it was totally over, you know, crossing the
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: line and really disgusting and sexual assault. So, you know,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on that? Because I know that
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: on a lot of these seasons, there's a lot of intermingling.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I'm not a big fan of the intermingling
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: because of this reason. Yeah.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Because, and I think in the industry itself, the lines
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: are very blurred, very, very blurred.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: And in some ways I'm, I want to say like, it's,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: it's just representing what actually happens in the industry. And it,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: you know, Laura and Luke's case isn't the first case
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: that we've heard of.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: So it's, Yeah, and because the lines are just so blurred.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Well, and that's interesting that you say that.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: So this isn't just a made-for-TV show. I want to
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: hear more about, like, what is the difference or the
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: similarities and what your show was and what real yachting is. Listen,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I've been on numerous amounts of yachts. I've been to
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Saint-Tropez and did all that fun stuff. But, you know,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I don't really recall any drama going on behind the
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: scenes with the staff, right? Um, you know, and, and
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: it definitely wouldn't have been appropriate if there was, you know,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: that's what is interesting. So I think a lot of
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: people wonder if it's, it's kind of made for TV
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: or if it's like, that's what's happening. Cause you guys
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: are in the middle of the Mediterranean and there's nothing
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: else to do.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, in real yachting, to be honest, any
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: drama and any of that stuff, you would be removed.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just like in any job, right? If you are
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: crossing the line with a boss or a colleague, it
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: gets dangerous and distracting and people are removed. I mean,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I think that's an obvious, you know, thing that people
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: should probably have.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think a hundred percent.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: And I just think that sometimes when people realize they're
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: coming and one of the things that frustrates me is
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: that sometimes when these crew members come on to the
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: show and they're and you film with them, it almost
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: feels like they're playing for the camera.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: And that's why you're seeing.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: This over-dramatized because I'm like, I know for a fact,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: if you're on a normal yacht, your ass would be
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: really quiet right now.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: You would like not say anything. So some people, so
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I think that, yeah.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: So in your opinion, some people are there for the
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: paycheck and for being on TV, as opposed to working
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: on their skills as a stew.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I almost think they think that that's what is
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: wanted instead of just be yourself and work, which is
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: what they tell us all the time. You're here to
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: be yourself, do your job, and let it play out naturally.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: But I think people just want sometimes, not everyone, but
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: some people, it almost feels like they're playing for the camera.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: And that can be really frustrating. And that's why it
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: looks overdramatic.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious for people that are real fans of
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the show, you know, how much of it do you
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: think is reality and how much is it not maybe edited, but,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: you know, made a little bit more dramatic? I think
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of people wonder if it's all made for
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: TV or if this is what is really happening on
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the yacht and it's being represented that way.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I definitely think it's as real as it comes.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I personally, my second season, I think looks less dramatic
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: than what it felt like.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: So I was like, this actually doesn't look too bad.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: But in the moment, it felt like the world was
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: ending every day. So it's definitely as.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Real as it can.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: They do not need to make up that drama because
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: it's absolute chaos.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's talk about this season for a second.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: This season just wrapped. You had some very interesting guests
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: on this season, the fighting couple in the finale. That
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: was really something else. What is it like to be
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: around these guests? Sometimes do you want to remind them
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: they're being filmed?
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't know how they don't realize that there's
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: a camera in front of their face. They're going to
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: watch this back and their kids are going to watch
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: this back.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: That's what's so insane to me.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Or like when we had that dentist and I'm thinking,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: oh my God, you're like a professional.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Like your clients are going to see this, your patients.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Like it's just insane. But anyway, that happens when you
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: have a lot of alcohol.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Yes. Is there anything that happened?
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: for it?
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: It's Dune ADL.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Where?
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: Dune ADL?
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: There's an accent on the E.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: Do you mean.
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: Yes, I got it on Done Deal Cars.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: Lyft?
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: Please.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: You're going past Kimmage?
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, Kimmage.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: No.
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: Done Deal Cars.
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Camera, that would be interesting to know. Like, do people
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: ever put the camera down and say, wait a minute,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I want to have this moment? You know, and it's
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: interesting to talk about.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, no, the camera never goes down.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: On Below Deck, this is one of the shows on
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Bravo that does not have a reunion. So I wanted
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: to know if there was a reunion, what would be
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: an issue you think that was brought up or discussed?
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Everything from beginning to end.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: I think I definitely think between Kyle and Natalia is
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: I think between Natalia and I, I think, I just think, yeah,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: people should stirring. I think that would be questioned. I
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: think people's management skills would be questioned.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Personally, I would be always open to reunion, but yeah,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: I hope.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: We don't know. You never know. It may or may not.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: But I would be willing for that.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: So some of the critics out there said you as
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: a chief stew, your demeanor was a little abrasive. What
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: would you say to that?
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's like, it's like, I get why,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: but there was a reason for it. And unfortunately, it's
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: hard to get into why because it wasn't filmed and
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: it's something that the viewers haven't seen. But there was
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: definitely more to why I was irritated. There was a
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: lot of talk behind the scenes and things that I
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: was hearing. So by the time I got into that boat,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I was just like, fuming.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: What do you what do you mean there was just
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: gossip that started before you even got there.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah and also like yeah there was I would say
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: there was I would say there was there was just
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: a game that was being played and I was I
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: I had my my feeling that there was a game
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: that was being played between certain people and I was
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: just super irritated. And at the same time, once I
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: walked into the boat, I was really uncomfortable and I
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: could just see eyes on me. Like people weren't very,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, besides, yeah, besides like one or two people
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: that were welcoming, but it just felt almost like, oh,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: you know, she's here. Like ruined our little dream team
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: going on. So it kind of, it was really uncomfortable.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: So did that make you put like a wall up
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: and have some real boundaries with these people?
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, I am not going to be
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: stepped over by any means.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: But I think, you know, on a real yacht, that
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: would be normal. It would be acceptable.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: True. I mean, on a real yacht, you wouldn't have
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: three chiefs shoes. Let's just put it that way.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: On a real yacht, I don't think any sane captain
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: is going to bring three people that are head of
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: departments to work with each other because we all have
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: different styles and it's a recipe for disaster. And the
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: first time I ever worked in yachting, we actually had
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: the situation where we had two chiefs shoes and it
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: was a mess, a complete mess, because it's always going
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: to be an ego and a power struggle. Someone's always
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: going to think that they know better. And that was
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: my biggest worry. And I knew that it just was
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: going to, either way it was going to be a problem.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You had a fan recently say something, make a
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: comment about the fact that they were saying you were
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: diversity higher. What are your thoughts about that?
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: I actually did see that. That's insane.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: It's crazy because, you know, I've really busted my ass.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: In this industry and I actually don't even take that
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: seriously because I am one of the few people I'm
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: not going to name names, but I'm the few yachties
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: in this below deck universe that actually still works in yachting.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: And post show, I ended up working on a boat
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: larger than the one that you see on below.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Deck, managed more people and did a phenomenal job. And
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: it was a really, really tough boat.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: So to those of them that are like diversity hire,
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: I would love them to send forth their CVs and
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: see if they can do it themselves. Okay.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: I love that. That's my answer. Um, in watching the
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: show back from this season, you know, what were your thoughts?
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Was there anything you, you already said you thought it
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: was more dramatic in real life than what you saw, but, um,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: was there anything that you saw in the editing that
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: you saw on TV that you didn't even know happened?
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, a lot.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, the shouting thing between like style and jazz, like, um,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: the gossiping, um, I just didn't realize that it was
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: that bad because it's just like certain people, actually everybody,
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: every person that I was interacting with, I had a
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: personal relationship with them, but I didn't see their relationships
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: with other people.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Because I was busy. I'm upstairs, I'm working, I'm running around.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: So it was really interesting to see how people's demeanors
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: and behaviors changed. or were way worse than what I
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: thought it was because someone can come tell me oh
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: my god this person did this to me but I
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: wasn't there so I can't see that and so that
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: was a little disappointing and and very surprising I also
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: didn't know about the multiple hookups I have no idea
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: so many people were hooking up I almost felt like
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: I wasn't even living on that.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Boat that's funny honestly.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: That's so interesting. So is there a below deck friend
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: that you still talk to? You know, you kind of
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: create like a family, like you feel like a family
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit when you film these kind of shows.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: So is there someone in your life?
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, many of them.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, Aisha Bertini from season one, Captain Shift, Ryan,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Captain Jason, and Um, you know, from my season now
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: it's Jess and Lily.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Like I still speak to them. Luca.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I was with Luca at BravoCon. So you still do.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: But I would say like the person that's like my
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: bestie is Bertini. Like that's my girl. Okay.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: So I think people are curious, once you're done filming
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: stuff like this, how does it work? Because then you
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: have to, I mean, if you're doing this to be
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: an actress or to further your television career, you go
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: down one road. But if you're really working in the
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: yachting industry, how do you get back into it?
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: You just apply. You apply for work. But it can
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: be tough.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: It can be tough because especially the more that you
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: do and the more that captains see that you're on
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: this boat.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I've had boats where they've said, sorry, you've been on
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: below deck.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: We don't want to hire below deck. So it can
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: hinder you from getting another job. But you just apply.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: And I have many friends in the industry.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: But I'm curious why.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Because they don't think. why they think that it's, they
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: don't want us.
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm curious if it's because they want, you know,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: you to understand how to be, you know, quiet about
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: things and be very under the radar, or is it
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: because they think you have too much drama because of that?
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Like what, why would you not get hired?
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because like what you were saying is that it's
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: like so dramatized. They assume that you're drama and that's
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: not the essence of yachting. So the minute they hear
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: that you are below deck, they're like, oh, well, she's
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: definitely going to be drama and she's going to be
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: dramatic and she's going to be this. So, I mean,
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: I've had, you know, I remember my first season, I
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: went on a boat and I only told them they
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: found out actually because a fan came up to me
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: when we're having a crew dinner.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: And that's how they found out. And they were like, wow,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: to me, if.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: We had known that we would have never hired you,
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: but you're not going anywhere because we love you.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: And that's because I don't start drama. You know, it's like. Yeah.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: So a lot of the times I get where they're
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: coming from because if they watch the season from mid,
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're going to.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Be like, what the hell is this?
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: This is not how we do it.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: So how long ago did you guys wrap?
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: 2021.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: What year are we in? 2022 is when we filmed.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. So it's been a while. So you've been
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: working on yachts since?
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I worked on yachts since.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: And is that your trajectory? Like, are you going to
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: continue doing that? What do you want to do with
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: your future?
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: My cutoff was always 30 when I started yachting and
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I'm 30 at the end of this year and my
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: certificates are ending.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: So this is my last run. It's been a great run,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: but no, we're not. We're going to move on.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I would love to move to households.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, meaning working as like a house manager?
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah for a couple of like houses that would be good.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah i mean it's the same kind of concept because
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: it's it's high-end hospitality for a wealthy individual taking care
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: of all their stuff knowing how to put um you
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: know tabletops and you know doing all these things that
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: are special um services kind of for an individual so
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: i i totally understand that do you think that you
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: will um so you're not going to do any more
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: seasons is that what you're saying.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: No, you never know. I mean, you never know with me.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: You never know with me. I mean, I'm open to anything.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: I'm open to opportunity.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: If it feels right.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you a couple of kind of
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: rapid fire questions. If you could pick a dream team
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: to do a season with, who would it be and
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  Speaker 1: where would it be?
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  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 2: That is crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so I'd pick Aisha, Bertini, Chef Ryan, just to
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  Speaker 3: stir shit up.
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  Speaker 2: Fraser, definitely Fraser. Alex, we need a cutie.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: From Sailing. Captain Jason. And Captain Sandy. I think we
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  Speaker 2: could have those two together. That's my dream team. And
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  Speaker 2: it would be somewhere wild, like maybe Alaska.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. That's where I was born, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: I love it there. Oh, I love that.
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  Speaker 1: It's a beautiful place to be on a boat. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: You've been to a lot of beautiful places. What would
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  Speaker 1: be your favorite one?
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  Speaker 2: The Bahamas.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: On yachts. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Has there ever been a request by a guest that
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  Speaker 1: totally blew your mind because it was so ridiculous?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, when we were asked to get a birthday cake
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  Speaker 3: for Fat Joe.
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  Speaker 2: At like 9 p.m. at night in New York City.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Did you pull that off?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Thank you to Carla's Bakery.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: When you get off the boat at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the season, what is the first thing you do? Eat, sleep,
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  Speaker 1: go see your boyfriend? What's the first thing you want
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  Speaker 1: to do when you get off?
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  Speaker 2: I literally sleep for seven days straight. I'm not even kidding. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I like live in the bed.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, which takes me to a different question, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's so much made of these nights out that you
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  Speaker 1: guys all have. Like what, what is the feeling going
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  Speaker 1: on that you guys all need to party that hard
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  Speaker 1: when everybody leaves? Like for me, I would feel like
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  Speaker 1: I want to stay in my room and watch Netflix.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want anyone around me. I want to just
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  Speaker 1: be by myself. I want to drink, but it seems
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  Speaker 1: like everyone really wants to go out and blow some
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  Speaker 1: steam off.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, at the end of the day, we're
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  Speaker 3: doing a reality show and it is our job. So
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  Speaker 3: it is expected of us to go out. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know, there are times where you don't want to,
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  Speaker 3: but there were times when I didn't want to, but
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  Speaker 3: at the same time, it's just like, you kind of
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  Speaker 3: just have to do what you have to do.
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  Speaker 2: I also think it's great because it keeps the adrenaline going. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that you can crash after. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So it's almost like, and you know, once you're out
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  Speaker 3: and you're having dinner and you, you, you, we have
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  Speaker 3: a couple of drinks and it's just like, everything becomes
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  Speaker 3: fun again.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So, but if you really don't want to, you don't
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  Speaker 3: have to, but at the same time, it is a show.
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  Speaker 2: And in real life, we're not doing this.
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  Speaker 1: Got it.
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  Speaker 2: We are sleeping.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Got it.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: What is one thing about working and living on a
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  Speaker 1: boat that would surprise people?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I always say that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's every boat I've been on,
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  Speaker 3: but normally not choosing when you want to eat killed me.
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm just such a conscious eater and people assume
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  Speaker 3: that you can just be like, oh, I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: go grab something to eat.
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  Speaker 2: Right now whilst you're like on shift. No, it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: work like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: My first point, I had to get told my teeth.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I would assume it's very weird that you're spending all
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  Speaker 1: this time with these crew members, again, like becoming a
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  Speaker 1: family kind of, and you go through all this stuff
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  Speaker 1: with them. And then 99% of the time, you probably
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: never see these people again, because they're all from different
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: walks of life and go on to do a million
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  Speaker 1: other things. And you're not living in one area, you know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, honestly, that is true. You never, ever, ever see
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  Speaker 3: these people ever again. And I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: the last time I saw anyone from like my first book.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you can spend eight months with them. You can
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: be roommates with them. You can eat, breathe, sleep them.
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  Speaker 3: You can share all these experiences in different parts of
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: the world and you'll never see them again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Sum up this season in three words, like crazy, exhausting.
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  Speaker 5: Emotional, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Exhausting, chaotic, and overwhelming.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Last question. Do you watch any other Bravo shows?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I was literally just watching The Real Housewives of
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake City. I was watching The Reunion.
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  Speaker 3: Me too.
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God, that season finale. I was like sitting
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: there like this. It was so insane. So good. So,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: so good.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: So do you think, do you think Monica should be
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: kicked off the show or you think that's amazing what
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: she did?
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  Speaker 3: No, she needs to come back. I mean, she's definitely
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: plays dirty, but she's great.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. I've been watching it too.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to be there with her. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, it seems like this is their
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: best season. It's really good.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: It is so, so good. I really, really love it.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Do you watch any other shows on Bravo?
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  Speaker 2: I do. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is another one
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: that I really like.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's either Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Atlanta, I'm
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: not too into anymore, Salt Lake City, and that's about it.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: And then The Below Dicks. I'm not a big TV person.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, so last difficult question. If they did an Ultimate
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Girls trip... with all different Bravo stars, it doesn't have
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: to be girls, but ultimate trip from all Bravo reality stars,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: who would you pick to go on that with you?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I like Teresa.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: I need her there for Spice. I love Carl Richards
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: because she's a Capricorn queen. I need Erika Jayne. I
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: would have Monica just for control purposes.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: And you know what? I'm going to bring Danielle Starr back.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: We're going to make this really feisty. And then me
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: and Aisha, we can just sit down and watch.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Okay. I love it. I love it. That's great.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Where can people find you?
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Well, I am on Instagram at Damien Fong-On, same as
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Twitter at Damien Fong-On, same as everything else.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Okay. And just like what's on your bucket list going forward?
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Travel, travel, travel, travel, fun, fun, fun, fun. Great.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: I would really love to ski this year. Skiing is
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: the number one thing.
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  Speaker 7: Great.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. Timmy, I wish you the best of luck.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. I hope our
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: listeners got to understand you a little better.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you for having me.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Of course. Thank you so much for listening to Misunderstood.
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• 56:45
  Speaker 5: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: for it?
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: It's Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 5: Where?
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  Speaker 6: Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E.
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: Do you mean.
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 4: Lift?
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  Speaker 2: Please.
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: Are you going past Kimmage?
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 6: Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 7: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.