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The Stories We Dress For & The Social Reckoning · Salon Gazette

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Bienvenue au salon hosted by Sarah Maria.
• 0:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's me.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_00: This week's salon session is gonna be a very brief one, and that's only because I'm cooking up an episode for next week that's still kind of in the works, and I didn't want to split it up, so I figured I would keep this pretty brief for this week and come back to you next week with an even juicier one.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_00: But specifically in this session, I want to talk about the many narratives of the interest in the fashion industry.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_00: So random, I know.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: So I was sitting thinking about some of the collections that I've seen so far, like Dior and Chanel, and I was just thinking about how I wasn't really feeling satisfied from what I was seeing, and this led me and down a whole rabbit hole of a discussion about why is it that people find themselves interested in the fashion industry and why various different people invest, whether it's their clothes, the institution, all of it.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_00: And the reason why I called it the min the mini narratives of the interest in fashion is because when I was thinking about this, is I finally realized that I mean it's kind of like well duh, but it makes sense that different peoples are attracted to the fashion industry for different reasons, and I find that so fascinating and I think very clarifying too when I'm thinking about why it is that designers create, why they stick to the brand ethos, etc.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_00: That tight rope that they kind of have to walk with many different points that they're trying to balance.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I find myself, I found myself feeling confused, and this was because specifically I saw the Dior Spring 2027, Spring and Summer 2027 collection, and I was feeling very underwhelmed.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to badmouth any of the collections, I just feel like if I don't have anything nice to say, then I should just not say it.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: But for the purpose of this example, yeah, I was taking in the spring-summer 2027 Dior collection, and I was like, I found it to be very boring, kind of.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: Not kind of, for me personally.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: I just think it was really boring.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like it did a good job at sticking to the overall storyline of what it is that Jonathan wait, what's his name again at Dior?
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it is Jonathan Anderson.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Jonathan Anderson.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: I think he did a really good job with this collection at sticking to the story that continuing the story of what it is that Dior represents aesthetically, as well as continuing his own take on it.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_00: But beyond that, I didn't find it very inspiring or crazy eye-catching or just gripping in a way.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: Certain collections have a way of totally grasping me emotionally and just submerging me in its fantastical world.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_00: I know this sounds like this sounds like a lot, like a tall order, but that's just that's just what I personally look for when I'm looking at some of these collections.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I didn't find that at all for the Dior collection.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_00: And as always, I usually go to the comments to see what people are saying about it, as well as what different creators, editors, etc.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_00: what they're how they feel about the new collection.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: And there are so many raving reviews and people saying, Oh my god, it's beautiful, everything that I was looking forward to, just totally praising the collection.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I found myself feeling confused, like, really, you guys like this like a lot.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, people are allowed to like what they like, but it was just the passion behind how much people liked this collection that that kind of surprised me because I didn't feel that way at all.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_00: I felt the opposite, so it led me down this whole rabbit hole of thinking about, like I said, what is it that people are looking for in certain collections or in brands in the fashion industry in general, and how do people go about what is what are people's relationships to their own fashion direction in terms of like how they get dressed, how they pay attention to other people's fashion, how they subscribe to different worlds that are spearheaded by different brands, etc.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I started realizing that no matter what, what I'm looking for is the commonality.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: So there's so many people out there, and we're all so different and have our own unique tastes and our own unique experiences.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: We're all each individual souls and a body, and we're all different.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_00: But what I look for is what is the common thread?
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_00: What is it, what is the collective consensus, for lack of a better word, that brings us all together around this one theme, like the fashion industry or this one collection.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I was thinking about myself, I was thinking about my own relationship with my own sense of fashion and taking in different fashion brands, etc., observing people's styles, like just when I'm people watching, etc.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: I realized that for me, I think every single human being, not I think, every human being has an area in their life in which they have a strong appetite for individuality.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: So that means like a sense of self-expression and innovation and just expressing themselves through whatever medium that is.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I realized that for me, fashion is one of those mediums that I truly have like a strong appetite for individuality and everything that I just said that comes with that.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_00: And then I also realize in the same breath that that that's not the case for everyone.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's not the case for everyone that they have a high a strong appetite for individuality in their fashion.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_00: And when I think about some of these brands and the world that's created around them and the prestige that they have, I think before I understood this concept, I kind of felt confused as to why it is that some house fashion houses, like legacy fashion houses like Chanel, Dior, Louis Vuitton, Yves Saint Laurent, all those recognizable brand names that's been around for a while now, I always wondered why it is that people are so wrapped up in the story of these specific houses or whatever house that they're subscribing to.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I realized that whereas some people or a lot of people might be looking for individuality, a space for them to express themselves and to see who they are and to showcase how they're feeling and who they who they are as an individual, others, many others are looking for kind of I'm trying to find a better word than a club or a better phrase than a club to subscribe to.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: That sounds kind of pretentious, but I think it's a lot more subconscious and grandiose and collectivizing than it sounds.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_00: I think in many areas of our lives, all individuals, we're also looking for places where we can feel accepted and where it's easy, where we don't have to kind of put pressure on ourselves to think too much outside of the box to individualize ourselves and to kind of stake out who we are apart from everybody else.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_00: I think not I think I realize that it's like a balance between all of us.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: We all have a need to fit into the collective and to feel accepted and loved and be part of the narrative, and we also have a need to be individuals, and that differs for each person, what area of life of their lives that they have that this need or these two needs manifest.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I realized yesterday when I was thinking about this, that like I said, for me, it's in the fashion industry, it's in the fashion world, and that's the case for a lot of other people, but for also a lot of other people as well, the fashion industry is not that's not the world for them.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: The other, the other need comes to comes to the surface, the need to fit in, to subscribe to a narrative, to feel like they belong to a bigger story and what that bigger story is telling.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of times for these legacy fashion houses, it's about it's a lot of things, but I think big themes within that are a sense of a high social status, um, being part, being able to afford luxury and prestige, even like royalty to a certain extent.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_00: Just being in a world where you feel distinguished and you know, like people recognize you, or that's the idea, anyways, that people are gonna recognize what it is that you're wearing, and by that fact, they're gonna assume things about you, they're gonna put you in a certain box or in a certain area of, like, or maybe they're gonna change how they treat you.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_00: At least that's the idea, but of course, like that's not the case for everyone, and so I found that fascinating, and I think at first I was feeling kind of apprehensive because I see a lot of times where I think what's key is for me to remember that each person's experience within the fashion industry is singular, it's their own experience, and just because I feel some type of way about how it should be expressed or what it is that I'm looking for in this industry, it doesn't mean that's the case for everybody else, or it doesn't diminish other people's experiences or what it is that they're looking for in that world.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so, by saying that, why I'm saying that is because I think in the past I would see certain collections from legacy fashion houses, and I would just think like it was very clear that the designer is relying on the brand name itself to kind of carry the attractiveness of the collection, and in the past I would find that so offensive and annoying and pretentious and kind of snobby, but now I realize like especially these designers, like they're not obviously beyond the creator, like the person who actually created the fashion house, beyond that, like they're just hired, like obviously they believed, or you would hope that they believe in the vision of the story of the narrative of the fashion house, and that's why they got hired, but to a certain extent, like they're just diligent workers doing their job, and I think after kind of having that conversation, I felt a stronger sense of appreciation for some of these designers because I've seen in many ways where a designer will start a new job or a new post at a new house.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking about Dario.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: Is that his name?
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: Dario, he was a designer for Versace just like a year, like not that long ago.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: And he came out with his first collection, and a lot of people loved it, and a lot of people also did not like it.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: Me, me personally, I didn't like it.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: And it was very clear that the collection was very personal to him, like it was his own innovation, well, maybe not innovation, like inspiration.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: It was very much so individualized, like it felt very much like Dario, if that's even his name.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: But I think that rubbed certain people, certain buyers, certain executive within the industry or within the brand itself the wrong way.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you think about it, like for those people who aren't looking for individuality, they're looking for that kind of like, congratulations, you're a member of the club.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was all too much for them.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: It was too individualistic, it was too much of a risk for them.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_00: It was, it would kind of single them out too much, and especially if they're not looking for that, it was kind of like, okay, well, they're not subscribing to it because now they feel like it they're exposed and they have to show their individuality, where perhaps that's not what they're looking for.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: And they're the ones who are looking for acceptance and collectivism, all of that in the brand.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: And after that, he stepped down or they like fired him or something, and he went to another house.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: But I just think that's the perfect example with what I was saying about having a sense of appreciation for these designers because they really have to walk that tight rope between their own inspiration, their own individual inspiration, and what how they interpret that within the lens of the brand that they are working for, as well as continuing the narrative of the fashion house in which some of these clients are subscribing to, as well as a bunch of other things, as well as you know, sales, all the commercial side of it, the business side of it, as well as the design side of it.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's a lot of points that they really have to kind of tiptoe across.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I just find that that I can't imagine the pressure and the precision needed and the insight to be able to know, like, okay, how do people what do people imagine what they when they think of this brand?
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, they have like their archives so they can go back and look and take inspiration, etc.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: As well as what about my own inspiration?
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: First of all, how am I going to put that?
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how am I going to translate that into the clothes while also making sure that it's not straying too far from the collectivism of the brand and the world that's created around it?
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's so fascinating.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm really glad that I came to that realization because I love community and just the zeitgeist in general, like collective conversations, etc.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I never want to be the person that's like, okay, it's us versus them, or it's that side against that side.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: I'm always I'm a mediator.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's like my I don't know what it's called, like one of those like personality tests, you know, the INFT, whatever they're called, there's like different personalities.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, mine is called the mediator, and I think it's so true in the sense that in a lot of situations where there's clear opposing sides or just many moving parts, I always find myself looking for what is the point in which we can kind of all come together and have at least one thing in common.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I think for me, what I came to is just being very curious about where is it that each individual falls in terms of the fashion industry?
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like, is it somewhere?
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_00: I know for me personally, I wrote down like to me, fashion is like, I see it as an artistic medium to be like pushed forward rather than an institution to be preserved.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: But with this conversation, I also realized like there is value to the side of the institution that's to be preserved because that's why they're still here.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's why they're so successful.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: That's a big part of why they're so successful.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: Because over time, like, people aren't really subscribing to the reality of the clothes.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: I think in the past I found myself kind of feeling offended, or just feeling like, okay, this is kind of snobby, that people aren't really subscribing to the reality of the clothes, they're subscribing to the fantasy of the world that's created around this brand.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: So the prestige, the history, the cultural alignment, all of it, the narrative, the ups, the downs, like the journey of that brand.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so it is what it is.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I think rather than being like, oh, I fall on this side, therefore, you know, it's like me against them.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: I I find it really fascinating.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I wonder where it is that you fall on the spectrum when it comes to the fashion industry.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: Is it a realm for you to feel like where you have an appetite for individuality, where you feel like you want to express your own creativeness, your whatever that is, or is it somewhere where you want the work done for you?
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: And there's nothing wrong with that, because I think a lot of a lot of life is difficult.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: And so if fashion for you is a part of life where you don't really want to think about it, you don't want it to be something that's a lot of pressure for you to stake your own individuality on, you just want it to be something where it's kind of dictated for you, and you just subscribe to it.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's great too, because we all have parts of our lives where we do that.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's funny because there's this podcaster I listen to, and she's she was talking about certain activities that she does, or like clothes that she wears, like wearing yoga pants, etc.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: But she was just saying, like, um, a lot of times she's an influencer.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: People will call her basic, and I love her answer.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: She always says, like, I love being basic because the way she sees it is basically you're saying, like, she fits in.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, she's very big on sisterhood and girlhood and like bonding, etc.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: So she was saying, like, obviously, when people say it, they mean it like as an insult, but she was just turning it around and saying, like, yeah, I love being basic.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: I love doing the activities that everybody else is doing and feeling like I'm fitting in.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's nothing wrong with that.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: As long as you're not, well, who am I to say anything?
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: But I think as long as you're not basic in every single area of your life, which nobody really is, then yeah, it is what it is.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that's what I've been thinking about.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I found this, I find this conversation to be so fascinating.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: And now as I'm going through the various endless spring and summer 2027 collections, I'm keeping that in mind.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: I found myself like I was looking at the Lo Wave um collection this morning and just the fashion show in general, and I found myself like kind of with my mind being more broad, like asking, okay, what is the ethos of this brand?
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: What is the narrative that people are subscribing to?
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: Where is the individuality of the designer as like his own per or wait, yeah, it's two guys.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's a girl, it's a designer.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's two guys, yeah.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: Where is the individuality of those men and how that translates into the clothes?
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: And where is the narrative and the history and the cultural references of that brand preserved through this collection?
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's a lot, it's it's a lot of moving parts that they have to like really account for.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: And like this is a business, so like high stakes, you know, potential to lose make or lose a lot of money.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, and I I find that I found the experience to be as someone who loves sociology and just people watching and observing social structures, etc.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: I found it a lot more of an enjoyable experience rather than just kind of looking at the clothes, looking at the collection, and interpreting like whether I like it or not.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's very um, I don't know, small-minded and to to the point, at least for what it is that I'm looking for as a true mediator, as someone who's always looking.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, I love my own individuality, and I am a fire sign, so of course I need to be doing my own thing constantly, everybody does.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: But the mediator in me that loves community and loves to see how people and society and civilizations come together, I think it's it's much more enjoyable to be doing it with that lens and all those moving parts, keeping all those moving parts in mind.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: But speaking of social structures and social constructs, you guys, so I told you guys that I had it in the books to go watch the social reckoning sometime in the future.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I went last night and watched it, and oh my goodness, what an intense movie! I literally have so much to say about this movie, but um I'm just gonna keep it brief because, like I said, this is gonna be a brief session for this week, but trust, I'll be back in the future to give a more in-depth review of what I thought of this movie.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: But it was so freaking good, you guys.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like, simply said, it was so good.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: I think in a previous episode when I was talking about going to see it, I was saying, like, there's movies that you watch for entertainment and the storyline, like the real artistic inspiration behind it, and there's movies that you watch just for relevance and information, etc.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like, where you're you're gonna excuse perhaps the lack of real artistic inspiration or entertainment because that's not really like what the movie's about, etc.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I was saying, like, I'm not expecting this movie to be crazy entertaining or innovative, etc.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm expecting it to be more of like uh informational, like relevant to the zeitgeist right now.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: I was saying, with everything going on with meta and AI, etc.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: This movie was so entertaining, like it was so good.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Whether you're there for the kind of point being made by the movie or not, like the movie itself, the actors, like it's so entertaining, it's funny, and I don't know, it's just so good.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: Mikey Madison, the actress, she's so good, you guys.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm just so excited to watch more movies by her or with her starring in it.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: She's so good, like she's a big part.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, she's a big part of this movie, period.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: But she's such a big part of why I feel like this movie was so entertaining, truly entertaining.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: And Jeremy, I think his name is Jeremy Allen White.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: I was watching him yesterday, and I was like, okay, now I understand the hype about why people think this man is so fine because he is so fine, he's so attractive, you guys, and just so hot.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what a good, what a great movie! So entertaining, so intense, and just like I don't know, you guys, you guys need to go watch this movie.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: The storyline of it all, like, is so freaking crazy and sinister, and obviously, it's a movie, so you know you have to be careful about the facts and the portrayals, etc.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: But I wonder, I haven't really done a lot of research on Mark Zuckerberg, but I've I've heard a lot of people saying that what's his name?
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: Jeremy Strong.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: He's the one who plays Mark Zuckerberg in this movie.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: He was he starred, wait, is his name Strong?
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, don't don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure his name is Jeremy Strong.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: He was in succession, he was like the son, and he was he's so freaking good, like he's such a good actor.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of people have been saying, like, he nails this depiction of Mark Zuckerberg.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: So I wonder if the depiction of Mark in this movie is is like pretty close to reality.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: Because if it is, I am so terrified.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: Not really, but like I'm so creeped out and put on guard and just find his character.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: At least the the since I don't really know what he's about and what he's like, I'm gonna say the character in the movie, but the character like so sinister, and I felt really validated, honestly, with what the movie was saying about because I I had a previous episode in which I was talking about the discussion around AI and how a lot of these companies, like it seems like they will sacrifice just basic morals for their bottom line, meaning like money, making more money, more and more and more and more money.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: That was like a big theme in the movie about him.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it touched a lot on Facebook, like fact fact-checking, specifically political ads, and you guys just have to watch the movie.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm I'm not gonna go too in-depth again in this session about it, but like basically he was sacrificing like a lot of people around him just had so much so many problems with just the ethics of what they're building and the algorithm, etc.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: When they have they have this information, you guys, like they have blatant studies about how certain parts of the algorithm is affecting whether it's mental health, whether it's behavior, how people become radicalized through very various groups that vet certain people on the internet based on on Facebook, on meta, based on what they're liking, what they're consuming, etc.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: And bringing these people into dangerous groups, extremist groups, they know this.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: And the thing that I found so crazy is like there's this like hush hush energy all throughout the movie about like it's like this cult like loyalty that they expect about you not talking to the press.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: And you think that I would understand if they were cautious about like people making up things or fear-mongering, but some of the things that they're protecting or they seem like, oh my god, you guys are only you guys are only um making a story about this because let's say like it's a political agenda, it's like okay, I get it.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: Political agenda or not, what these people are releasing is still the truth, though.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you guys know this, you have information on this, and when people come out and say, No, no, no, like this is harming certain groups of people, they know that, and it's just the movie is so frustrating, you guys.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's so frustrating, and I just found myself so disappointed in humanity.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: My faith in humanity really went down in this movie, and it wasn't like I don't want to scare you guys, like it wasn't a miserable movie to watch, like it's not a hard like thing that you kind of have to sit through.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's really entertaining, like it's a really good movie, and I just I sat in the theater for like a good 10 minutes afterwards, just kind of dissecting and breathing in what it is that I just watched, and just the moral failure time and time again, of the characters in this movie, and by default, real people making real like I think a lot of us, I think what this movie does, as I'm trying to wrap this up because like I said, I want this to be brief.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: I think what this movie really does is make it clear to the viewer how much bigger this world, this new world that we're currently living in, and that's continuing to grow and change, etc.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: It makes really clear like how encompassing it is and how it has really impacted society on such a large scale.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_00: I think we forget, or because we're so used to it now, like Facebook has been around for a long time, relatively, like we kind of forget what society, especially when it infiltrates so many parts of your everyday life, like you forget, you kind of get numb to the effects of it.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: So, my biggest takeaway is go watch this movie.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: You guys need to watch this movie, okay?
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you need to watch it, and I've noticed a lot of people will just kind of skip out on certain content or like narratives out there because they think it's annoying or they find it uncomfortable to engage with whether you support or not.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's important to engage with the conversation.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how are you just gonna tap out without really knowing what the conversation's about?
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: So go watch this movie, you guys.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, so freaking good.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: So good.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: You need to watch this movie.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: But this is the end of the salon session, you guys, and I'm out as promised.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: Brief session.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'll be back with a juicier episode next week.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: I hope you guys enjoyed.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: Until then, I love you guys.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for yapping with me for a little bit.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.