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Blake Snell is back, Cubs look legit, Rays roar, Skenes velo drop, Alex Cora opens up on next chapter · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: All right, Scott quit KP. Scott quit on us today,
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Speaker 1: so it's just me and you. I hope you can
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Speaker 1: deal with that. You went for the wife meter look,
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Speaker 1: which is interesting.
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Speaker 2: Look, don't worry, no, no, not wife beater. Fabletics tank top,
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Speaker 2: Fabletics tank top.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I don't have the tats. I don't have
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Speaker 1: the arms to pull that off, so I always have
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Speaker 1: to go fully sleeve. If I had tats like you had,
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Speaker 1: I'd probably be a little bit more open to the
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Speaker 1: tank top look. But you know, some of us have
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Speaker 1: like kind of hairy arms a little bit, see, like
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Speaker 1: not fully shaven, so we kind of need to cover
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Speaker 1: up certain parts of our body.
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Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we all can't look as good
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Speaker 1: as you, KP. It's okay. I forgive you for looking
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Speaker 1: so damn good.
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Speaker 2: You're you're a busy person. You're working all the time.
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Speaker 2: I'm not working nearly as much as you. I have
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Speaker 2: young kids. They keep me young in spirit, they keep
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Speaker 2: me physically young. We just had different parts of our life.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you know a handful of years from now,
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Speaker 2: when my my youngest is eleven months, you know, when
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Speaker 2: she's a little bit older, the tank tops will probably
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Speaker 2: get put away.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. True. May your kids get to be teenagers and
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Speaker 1: they will be like, Dad, everything you do is annoying, Dad,
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Speaker 1: Why are you so annoying? Dad? Stop doing that. You'll
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Speaker 1: see You'll see KP. You'll see KP when one day
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Speaker 1: your kids are old enough to really get a little
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Speaker 1: bit angry at you. But that's okay, it's okay. You
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Speaker 1: get used to it after a while, and then they
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Speaker 1: turn around and they're like, Dad, you're pretty cool. Actually
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Speaker 1: when you go to when you know, you take them
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Speaker 1: to the club and stuff and you pay for their drinks.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is true. It's the circle of life. Kids
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Speaker 2: can't live without their parents, and then they go through
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Speaker 2: that phase or they want nothing to do with them,
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Speaker 2: and then they come back around. Luckily, I'm still in
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Speaker 2: phase one of life.
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Speaker 1: True true. True. You know what else impresses your kids
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Speaker 1: and well one of your kids and then your other
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Speaker 1: kid is mad because they didn't get the opportunity to go,
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Speaker 1: is when you get to go meet the pope.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that would be something your kids
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Speaker 2: probably think you're pretty cool for.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, one of my kids got to go, so
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Speaker 1: my daughter got to go the older one. My son didn't,
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Speaker 1: he was playing summer baseball. But the White Sox, because
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Speaker 1: they're an awesome organization, had a cool giveaway last night.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he saw this or now there's me.
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Speaker 1: That was Saturday night. Danny Bell, who used to work
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Speaker 1: at Fox was our guy. That was after the Pope
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Speaker 1: night or after Saturday night the Ozzie Gean retirement. I
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Speaker 1: had the popead on and people were super excited that
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Speaker 1: I got to take a picture of it. But last night,
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Speaker 1: the White Sox gave away forty thousand of these things
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Speaker 1: k forty thousand popeats.
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Speaker 2: It's pretty amazing. But I think in baseball timings everything,
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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone saw this team doing what they
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Speaker 2: were going to do this year. And you know, aj
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Speaker 2: sometimes you have a young team with a lot of
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Speaker 2: young players, they can get out of the gates pretty strong.
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Speaker 2: You know, youth is a pretty important thing early in
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Speaker 2: the season. A lot of people we're excited to be there.
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Speaker 2: People are playing for their jobs. But I don't think
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Speaker 2: anyone saw the Chicago White Sox kind of, you know,
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Speaker 2: maintaining the success that they've had this season. And I
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Speaker 2: think They've gone beyond everyone's wild wildest imaginations of what
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Speaker 2: they were able to do this season. And I mentioned timing,
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Speaker 2: you know, with Pope Leo, you know, taking over the
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Speaker 2: Vatican being a White Stocks fan, there's something magical going
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Speaker 2: on with this season. So I think the Pope pat
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Speaker 2: is very fitting for where this team is at, what
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Speaker 2: this team has been able to accomplish this year. And
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Speaker 2: you know what, agent I was on the day you
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Speaker 2: actually were visiting the Pope. I never kind of heard
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Speaker 2: fully about what that experience was. Like, I mean I
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Speaker 2: got I mean behind me right here you can see.
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Speaker 2: I got to meet a you know, former president. And
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Speaker 2: no matter how you feel about whatever party he represents,
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Speaker 2: like there's only so many living presidents in the world. Like,
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Speaker 2: if you get an opportunity to meet someone that important,
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Speaker 2: that famous, it's really the cool perk of the job
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Speaker 2: is sometimes our profession allows us to meet people like that.
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Speaker 2: I can only imagine what that feeling is like meeting
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Speaker 2: the Pope.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he blessed my hat for me. In
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Speaker 1: case you can't see my hat, I'm wearing the pope hat.
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Speaker 1: They gave this to me. It's actually awesome. So peace
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Speaker 1: be with you, Kevin. I don't know if you saw this,
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Speaker 1: but they also did a Peace be with You where
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Speaker 1: everyone if you've ever been to Catholic Mass, everyone went to.
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Speaker 1: In Catholic Mass, they always do a moment where you're
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Speaker 1: supposed to turn around and meet your neighbors and they
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Speaker 1: call it. You know, you say peace be with you
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Speaker 1: to your neighbors at church, and last night the white
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Speaker 1: tux did that with forty two thousand people in the stands.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was an awesome night. Everything they did
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Speaker 1: was Pope inspired. Everything they did was just that way,
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Speaker 1: and no matter what you believe in or whatever, it's
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Speaker 1: cool to see forty two thousand people be able to
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Speaker 1: get behind anything. I mean, we have enough problems, I'm
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Speaker 1: sure with your kids trying to figure out what to
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Speaker 1: have for dinner that everyone likes. And yes, I mean
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Speaker 1: I played golf with multiple presidents. I've met multiple presidents,
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Speaker 1: been to the White House of multiple presidents. But to
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Speaker 1: go to the Vatican and meet the Pope was one
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Speaker 1: of the coolest experiences because, look, he's from Chicago, he's
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Speaker 1: a White Sox fan, and as someone that was raised Catholic,
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Speaker 1: to be able to meet the Pope. Again. I've said
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Speaker 1: this many times. I met more to my mom than
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Speaker 1: probably it did to me, which is fair or not
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Speaker 1: fair depending on how you want to look at it.
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Speaker 1: But it was one of those things that is life
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Speaker 1: changing because you look at it and say, damn, this
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Speaker 1: dude is pretty cool.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think to your point too, regardless of what
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Speaker 2: religion you believe in, if you are religious, I think
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Speaker 2: anytime we can have forty thousand people at least saying
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Speaker 2: hi to their neighbors, whether they're blessing them or not,
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Speaker 2: but interacting with each other, all kind of being on
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Speaker 2: the same page. I don't think, you know, with the
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Speaker 2: world we live in, if we can just have you know,
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Speaker 2: even if it's that twenty seconds of good and maybe
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Speaker 2: a quarter of those people go out and do something
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Speaker 2: nice and there's this trickle down effects. So great job
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Speaker 2: by the Chicago White Sox for kind of having the
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Speaker 2: creativity to have the popat. Obviously the team is doing
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Speaker 2: something a lot of people in the baseball world didn't
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Speaker 2: expect them to do. Good on them for having that
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Speaker 2: moment to have, you know, people just interact with a
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Speaker 2: stranger and a neighbor, and the more good we can
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Speaker 2: have in this world, the better.
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Speaker 1: Well, I have to take the hat off now because Jeremy,
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Speaker 1: our director, is yelling at me. It's too tall. It's
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Speaker 1: too tall, KP. So I got to go back. I
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Speaker 1: got to go back to the regular hat. But that
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Speaker 1: is a nice souvenir that they gave me. They gave
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Speaker 1: it to me early. So and do you know what
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Speaker 1: this is called? Do you know what this hat is called?
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Speaker 2: The popat?
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Speaker 1: No, it's called a miter. It's called a miter. Yes,
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Speaker 1: it's cool. It looks kind of like an oven mad
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Speaker 1: if you look at it like this, like oh my
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Speaker 1: food is done, I should grab it. But double sided.
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Speaker 1: It even has a little tassels on it. So if
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Speaker 1: you're lucky enough to get one last night, White Sox fans,
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Speaker 1: peace be with you.
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Speaker 1: All right, what do you think Let's go to the
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Speaker 1: other side. I mean, after talking to the Pope about
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Speaker 1: the Pope, it sounds sacrilegious kp to go to the
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Speaker 1: Cubs on the other side of town, the team. He
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Speaker 1: is not a fan of Cub fans. I'm sorry to
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Speaker 1: say that. I know he tried to claim him, but
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Speaker 1: he is a White Sox fan. So let's be real here.
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Speaker 1: But the Cubs are the seventy win club. They are
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Speaker 1: hot as all get out. PCA is probably the National
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Speaker 1: League MVP if I had a vote right now, he
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Speaker 1: is for me. The problem with the Cubs they're in
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Speaker 1: the same division as the Milwaukee Brewers, so they even
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Speaker 1: though they keep winning, and they keep winning, they keep winning,
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Speaker 1: they're finding it pretty hard to catch up and gain
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Speaker 1: ground on the Brewers. KP. How good do you think
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Speaker 1: the Cubs are and how dangerous are they in October?
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Speaker 2: I think they're really good and I know we'll get
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Speaker 2: to it later on the show. There's a couple injuries
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Speaker 2: with the Milwaukee Brewers, but you know, they're within striking
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Speaker 2: distance of the Brewers. And we've talked about the Brewers,
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Speaker 2: you know, pretty much all year about being, you know,
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Speaker 2: the best team in the National League besides the Dodgers,
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Speaker 2: and I think the Cubs have finally putting themselves in
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Speaker 2: a position where it's realistic to talk about them potentially
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Speaker 2: catching them Ackey Brewers. And I totally one hundred percent
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Speaker 2: agree with you if I had a vote to PCA
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Speaker 2: is the clear cut MVP in my opinion. What he's
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Speaker 2: been able to do, not only offensively, you know what
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Speaker 2: he brings to this team defensively every single night. His
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Speaker 2: ability to change the game on the base pass. I mean,
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Speaker 2: he's on pace to be easy thirty thirty. If he
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Speaker 2: gets real hot down the stretch, he might be a
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Speaker 2: forty to forty guy. You know, we're we're talking about
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Speaker 2: someone who even got off to a slow start this year,
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Speaker 2: but you know, potentially a generational talent. And you know,
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Speaker 2: I think this is what we always kind of expected
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Speaker 2: out of the Chicago Cubs when Alex Bredwyn decided to
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Speaker 2: leave Boston sign with the Chicago Cubs. I mean, he
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Speaker 2: is a winner everywhere he goes. He raises the floor
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Speaker 2: for every team and he makes everyone around them better.
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Speaker 2: And he necessarily hasn't performed up to his standards that
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Speaker 2: he believes for himself, but his presence is so important
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Speaker 2: any clubhouse he goes to. And the Clubs are also
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Speaker 2: a team that's been hampered by pitching injuries this year.
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Speaker 1: And you know, they.
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Speaker 2: Went out and they made kind of a you know,
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Speaker 2: under the radar move and got David Peterson, you know,
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Speaker 2: way before the official trade deadline. He's been great for them.
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Speaker 2: I know they got help coming. Cabrera is on his
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Speaker 2: way back, but you know, I think it's no surprise
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Speaker 2: that the Cubs you know, are really putting himself on
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Speaker 2: the map as a team that could not only catch
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Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Brewers. I think this is a team you
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Speaker 2: can really start, you know, kind of fantasizing about the
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Speaker 2: idea that they can have a long run in October.
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Speaker 1: Well, as a Cub fan, let's hope not okay, kap,
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Speaker 1: let's hope not. Let's hope. It's very short, sweet and
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Speaker 1: it's over with And know I'm just kidding, am I though?
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Speaker 1: But hey, here's the thing they have. Guess they have
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Speaker 1: Cabrera coming back. Peterson has been great. They've changed some
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Speaker 1: stuff with his delivery. I know when I was there,
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Speaker 1: he pitched Craig Council talked about kind of mixing up
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Speaker 1: the usage and doing some different stuff. There's still four
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Speaker 1: games back of the Brewers. They're playing great there. They're
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Speaker 1: gonna be in the playoffs. They're gonna at least be
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Speaker 1: a wild card if they don't catch the Brewers. They
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Speaker 1: if they get Palencia back, it'll be really nice because
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Speaker 1: that guy is really good when he's good. But their
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Speaker 1: schedule coming up is interesting to me. Three more versas
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Speaker 1: the thatts then that's say what you want, but they
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Speaker 1: fight you the does score some runs, they'll give up
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Speaker 1: a ton of runs. Three versus the Cardinals, we all
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Speaker 1: know about that rivalry. The Cardinals are still trying to
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Speaker 1: pretend like they're in this race. Right They're hoving around
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Speaker 1: five hundred, playing well under Ali Marmal. But then it
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Speaker 1: gets interesting. They play three versu. The White Sox at home, Okay,
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Speaker 1: first place team. That rivalry is great. And then they
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Speaker 1: go the West. This is where I think it's gonna
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Speaker 1: get interesting for them, and not for the playoffs, but
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Speaker 1: for the for the division. At Seattle. Seattle is gonna
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Speaker 1: have to win those games. And then at Arizona. And
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Speaker 1: if you've watched Arizona play lately, they are playing really,
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Speaker 1: really nice, so listen, I think the Cubs are gonna
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Speaker 1: be in the playoffs. I think the Cubs are very
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Speaker 1: dangerous because the way they catch the ball and the
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Speaker 1: offense that they can score, because they can really score
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Speaker 1: some runs if they get any sort of pitching and
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Speaker 1: they get showeda to stop giving up home runs and
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Speaker 1: they get some of their other guys, their starters to
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Speaker 1: step up and be good. I mean, they just got
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Speaker 1: Clay Holmes, they just got Kevin Gosman, who you know
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Speaker 1: very well, right, they have from some formidable dudes. I
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Speaker 1: think the Cubs are really dangerous to the entire National League.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're gonna find out. Like you said,
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Speaker 2: I think there's no doubt in my mind that the
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Speaker 2: Cubs are a postseason team, how they come out of
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Speaker 2: this stretch and once again the Nats a team that's
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Speaker 2: really really overachieved this year. They are extremely dangerous offense,
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Speaker 2: They play the game the right way. You know, they
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Speaker 2: got great young leadership and do terror there. They're they're
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Speaker 2: a fun team to watch and although on paper the
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Speaker 2: Cubs are a much better team that than Nots, just
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Speaker 2: do a lot of things right. You know, they're there.
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Speaker 2: If you don't go out there and pitch, well, they're
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Speaker 2: gonna make you pay. And then you talked about, you know,
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Speaker 2: just the rivalry with the Cardinals and then obviously the
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Speaker 2: crosstown rival with the Chicago White soxup playing great baseball.
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Speaker 2: Then you talk about that West Coast trip. I think
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Speaker 2: we're going to find out right now how much Creig
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Speaker 2: Council decides to you know, after this road trip. I
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Speaker 2: think we're going to find out just Creig Council kind
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Speaker 2: of push all of his chips in and do they
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Speaker 2: try to win the Vision and at the expense of
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Speaker 2: potentially having guys in the bullpen go three days in
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Speaker 2: a row, three out of four. You know, how they
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Speaker 2: manage their starting pitching, how they kind of manage these
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Speaker 2: games is going to be pretty clear after this upcoming
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Speaker 2: stretch of games. You know, if they're able to win
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Speaker 2: a majority of those games, I think they put the
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Speaker 2: pedal down. They try to win the division, put themselves
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Speaker 2: in a better situation to potentially have that first round
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Speaker 2: by in the postseason. If they kind of are mediocre
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Speaker 2: during this stretch, you know, I think they are a
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Speaker 2: little bit more conservative with their approach. Make the postseason,
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Speaker 2: make sure you're not limping in down the stretch, keep
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Speaker 2: some guys healthy, keep some guys in the back end
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Speaker 2: of the bullpen fresh. But I think we'll know a
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Speaker 2: lot after this three, three, six, nine to twelve, fifteen
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Speaker 2: eighteen game stretch.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they don't want to have what happened last year, right,
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Speaker 1: Remember Matthew Boyd had started on short rest and then
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Speaker 1: he had to do it again against the Brewers and
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Speaker 1: their pitching was all a mess. They'd like to get
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Speaker 1: to a point where they have them lined up. Now,
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Speaker 1: they would love to get a buy and not have
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Speaker 1: to worry about that in the first round, but at
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Speaker 1: the end of the day, they want all their pitching
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Speaker 1: lined up. I mean, they have Carera coming back, Ben
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Speaker 1: Brown hopefully coming back on her, Harvey coming back at
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Speaker 1: some point. They have dudes coming back. It's gonna be interesting,
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Speaker 1: is how Craig council works them all back in while trying,
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Speaker 1: like you said, to win the division. There are injuries
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Speaker 1: on the Brewers side also that we've talked about. So
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Speaker 1: it's gonna just the whole thing is is fun. It's fun.
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Speaker 1: It's fun when the Cubs are trying to win. It's
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Speaker 1: good for baseball when the Cubs are trying to win
14:49
Speaker 1: because it keeps, especially when the Cubs and White Sox
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Speaker 1: are trying to win. Because in Chicago it is a
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Speaker 1: summer thing and they get behind one team or the other.
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Speaker 1: People say they root for both. Not really supposed to
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Speaker 1: do that, but the Bulls, the black Hawks, the Bears.
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Speaker 1: Chicago can root for all those teams, but in Chicago
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Speaker 1: those two teams are split. It's a little bit more
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Speaker 1: Cub heavy than it is White Sox heavy, that's fine.
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Speaker 1: But when they're both good and now they're both going
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Speaker 1: to play each other trying to win, it's awesome. So
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Speaker 1: it's crazy.
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Speaker 2: Where are these next three games? Are they at Wrigley?
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Speaker 1: Were they at They're at Wrigley, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: because it's.
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Speaker 2: His first they played.
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Speaker 1: They played at the White Sox and the White Sox one. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that was the PCA. Remember PCA got yelled at by
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Speaker 1: the fan and told me he had some night choice
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Speaker 1: words for her because she told him he sucks. And
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Speaker 1: then he I think they called him PC triple A
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Speaker 1: and he didn't like that very much. Whatever, so fine.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure I never said anything mean to a Cup
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Speaker 1: fan either anyway. So anyways, if you want more Cubs talk,
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Speaker 1: Kyp, I'm sure you saw this. You're an Angel's legend.
16:54
Speaker 1: John Mozal said the primary reason to make changes was
16:57
Speaker 1: because the pitching coaches weren't sufficiently using the technology available.
17:01
Speaker 1: He said. The hitting coaches are also said no more
17:04
Speaker 1: firings during the season. Well, the season's almost over for
17:07
Speaker 1: the Angels. Actually was over in about April, so it
17:09
Speaker 1: can't really fire anybody else. What's interesting to me about
17:12
Speaker 1: Mike Maddocks and the pitching coaches John Cheaty getting fired
17:15
Speaker 1: are that John Mozelak had Mike Maddocks in Saint Louis,
17:19
Speaker 1: he knew what he was about. He probably could have
17:20
Speaker 1: gone to him and talked to him. But what technology
17:23
Speaker 1: weren't they using? Wow? Is there something that I'm missing
17:25
Speaker 1: that most organizations are using that maybe Mike Maddicks hadn't
17:30
Speaker 1: heard of before.
17:31
Speaker 2: No, he's probably familiar with all the technology, whether he
17:35
Speaker 2: was using the technologies or not. And I think the
17:37
Speaker 2: story came out with Redetmers wanting to use a track
17:40
Speaker 2: man and a bullpen something along those lines. And maybe
17:44
Speaker 2: it wasn't something that they were setting up every bullpen
17:46
Speaker 2: in order to you know, track movement of the pitches
17:50
Speaker 2: and velocities and spin rates and all that stuff that
17:55
Speaker 2: you know we have the ability to track now. But yeah,
17:58
Speaker 2: there's The angels are very interesting to me because obviously
18:01
Speaker 2: Perry Manasien was there and he was a probably hired
18:05
Speaker 2: He probably hired Mike Maddox. But I think the reason
18:08
Speaker 2: you probably go out and get a Mike maddox is
18:10
Speaker 2: because of his track record and his resume of being
18:14
Speaker 2: able to work wonders with pitchers and and a little
18:16
Speaker 2: bit more of that old school mentality of probably using
18:20
Speaker 2: his eyeballs, probably using his experience to try to get
18:23
Speaker 2: guys back on track.
18:25
Speaker 1: The Rays are real. The Rays are real, and they
18:28
Speaker 1: are a real threat to go to the World Series
18:30
Speaker 1: in the American League. Any thoughts on what Nick Martinez
18:33
Speaker 1: is doing at thirty six and how good the Rays are.
18:37
Speaker 2: That's amazing. You know, the Rays always finds someone like
18:40
Speaker 2: a Nick Martinez who has been a very valuable starter
18:44
Speaker 2: in the games, and he's actually been a valuable swingman
18:46
Speaker 2: for a lot of teams. He kind of fits any role.
18:49
Speaker 2: But I think anytime you're a free agent in the
18:51
Speaker 2: race call, especially as a starting pitcher or a guy
18:54
Speaker 2: in the bullpen, your ears perk up. They have an
18:56
Speaker 2: unique way of getting the best out of their guys.
19:00
Speaker 2: But you know, obviously covering the Blue Jays, you you,
19:05
Speaker 2: you know, when the season started, we kind of go
19:07
Speaker 2: team by team in the American League East and you
19:09
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, the additions that Boston made, You
19:13
Speaker 2: talk about what the Orioles did, the Yankees are always
19:15
Speaker 2: the Yankees, and then you kind of always forget about
19:17
Speaker 2: the Rays. But there's this idea that you can never
19:20
Speaker 2: really count the Rays out. You don't know how good
19:22
Speaker 2: they're gonna be, but you know they're gonna be relevant.
19:24
Speaker 2: But the Rays are just an amazing organization. They're a
19:28
Speaker 2: team that every year, you know, whether it's people like
19:33
Speaker 2: me that cover other teams in the division, whether it's
19:36
Speaker 2: people that put out the projections for the year, they
19:39
Speaker 2: always undervalue the Rays. And what Kevin Cash has been
19:42
Speaker 2: able to do, you know what Motor's been able to
19:44
Speaker 2: do as the hitting coach there. It's pretty amazing in
19:47
Speaker 2: the game of baseball to have a hitting coach that's
19:49
Speaker 2: been there for so many years.
19:52
Speaker 1: Now, it appears that Nick Kurtz we will return unlikely
19:56
Speaker 1: excuse me that Nick Kurtz will return the season after
19:58
Speaker 1: receiving a PRP and JET that requires a brace for
20:01
Speaker 1: four weeks. Per Martin diegos Marcotsee, you probably can do
20:05
Speaker 1: the timeline and think through the scenarios in front of us.
20:07
Speaker 1: For Nick, well, this is a big loss. The A
20:09
Speaker 1: suck that's not sugarcoat at the a's are not good.
20:12
Speaker 1: The Athletics, whatever they're called or not good. Losing Kurts
20:15
Speaker 1: has been a huge blow for them. He is the
20:18
Speaker 1: middle of their lineup, guy that hits homers, gets on
20:21
Speaker 1: bass walks, and I mean, the season's over for the Athletics,
20:24
Speaker 1: but nice tank top. Yeah.
20:27
Speaker 2: To me, this is the clear obvious choice. Keep him healthy.
20:31
Speaker 2: You know, my favorite thing about Nick Kurtz is I
20:34
Speaker 2: can't sit here and say I watch a ton of
20:35
Speaker 2: A's games, especially when they're on the West Coast. You know,
20:38
Speaker 2: I'm here in Central Time, I got young kids, I
20:40
Speaker 2: go to bed, but I love waking up in the
20:43
Speaker 2: morning and seeing what Nick Kurtz has done. He's one
20:45
Speaker 2: of the best players in the game his ability to
20:48
Speaker 2: get on base, but when he gets a pitch to
20:50
Speaker 2: hit and he doesn't miss it. He hit some of
20:53
Speaker 2: the furthest home runs in the game. And I really
20:56
Speaker 2: look forward to when he's healthy, waking up in the morning,
20:59
Speaker 2: drinking my coffee and just seeing what Nick Kurtz did.
21:04
Speaker 1: True, true, he's a star. He's going to be a star.
21:06
Speaker 1: Let's hope he gets healthy for next year in his
21:08
Speaker 1: back because this dude has the ability to hit fifty
21:10
Speaker 1: plus homers, especially if they keep playing in that bandbox
21:13
Speaker 1: in a Sacramento and he walked like how many I
21:15
Speaker 1: forget how many games in a row? He walked like
21:17
Speaker 1: over and over. It was cool to see how many
21:19
Speaker 1: teams were actually afraid to pitch to somebody on the athletics.
21:23
Speaker 1: So get well, Nick Kurtz, all right, KP. People are
21:36
Speaker 1: sick of it, People are sick of talking about a
21:38
Speaker 1: certain team out west. But did you see who returned
21:41
Speaker 1: for the Los Angeles Dodgers last night?
21:44
Speaker 2: Snell Zilla?
21:47
Speaker 1: Did you see how he did? Did you see how
21:48
Speaker 1: he did a smart standing bunch of tickets? Look at
21:52
Speaker 1: that line.
21:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's a look at man. The Dodgers
21:56
Speaker 2: do everything right. You know, I'm gonna get criticized for it,
21:59
Speaker 2: because you know, the Dodgers, the Dodgers are ruining baseball,
22:02
Speaker 2: but they love winning. They're obsessed with winning. And you
22:06
Speaker 2: got to give them a ton of credit with some
22:08
Speaker 2: of the guys that they've had filling in in that rotation.
22:11
Speaker 2: Why guys like Snell and Glass now have been out.
22:14
Speaker 2: But you know it's crazy. You know, Snell was pretty
22:19
Speaker 2: much ran into the ground during that postseason stretch, especially
22:21
Speaker 2: in that world series. You know, he was the guy
22:24
Speaker 2: aside from Yamamoto, that was the most consistent guy in
22:27
Speaker 2: that rotation. They asked him to come out of the bullpen.
22:31
Speaker 2: But getting him back at this point of the season
22:33
Speaker 2: healthy for what they're trying to accomplish this season is
22:37
Speaker 2: just an embarrassment of riches. But you know, good on
22:40
Speaker 2: the Dodgers for going out and spending money and getting
22:43
Speaker 2: guys like Blake Snell and then also being okay with
22:46
Speaker 2: the fact that you're gonna be without him for majority
22:49
Speaker 2: of the season, but you're getting him back for what
22:52
Speaker 2: Dodger fans would consider is when their seasons are really
22:55
Speaker 2: about to start right now down the stretch, kind of
22:57
Speaker 2: getting a little bit of momentum going into the postseason.
23:00
Speaker 2: But you know, he's honestly, I had I had the
23:04
Speaker 2: fortune of facing him a ton of my career. The
23:07
Speaker 2: year that he won his first cy Young with Tampa.
23:11
Speaker 2: He was the best pitcher I'd ever faced at any
23:13
Speaker 2: point if my big league career was Blake Snell during
23:16
Speaker 2: that second half of his first cy Young.
23:20
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he was pretty good. Ten punchy, six innings,
23:23
Speaker 1: three hits, one run. This is what they got him
23:25
Speaker 1: for But you know what's funny, the Dodgers bullpen still
23:28
Speaker 1: blew the lead and Max Mounts he had to rescue
23:30
Speaker 1: him in the bottom of the tenth with the walk
23:32
Speaker 1: off at Max Mounsey, one of our FT favorites. The
23:36
Speaker 1: Dodgers bullpen, even with Edwin Diaz back, has been something
23:41
Speaker 1: this year. I don't really even know what to call.
23:45
Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy because you know, they went out and
23:47
Speaker 2: got you know, quote unquote or arguably the best reliever
23:51
Speaker 2: in baseball who was available in free agency and obviously
23:55
Speaker 2: someone who was in the you know, stadiums for the
23:59
Speaker 2: World Series. They didn't rely on that bullpen a whole lot.
24:02
Speaker 2: It was just kind of recycled starter starters coming out
24:05
Speaker 2: of that bullpen. They moved Tyler Glasstaw out of the
24:07
Speaker 2: rotation to be in the bullpen, and on paper, they
24:11
Speaker 2: went out and kind of went out and got Edwin Diaz,
24:14
Speaker 2: you know, to kind of, you know, solve their bullpen issues.
24:18
Speaker 2: And you know, he hasn't been great this year, he
24:21
Speaker 2: hasn't been healthy this year. You know, if there is
24:24
Speaker 2: an Achilles heel for this team, it is that bullpen.
24:27
Speaker 2: But once again, if you saw what they did in
24:30
Speaker 2: the postseason last year, especially in the World Series, with
24:33
Speaker 2: guys like Snell coming back, with guys like Glass now
24:36
Speaker 2: coming back, being potentially able to take some of these
24:39
Speaker 2: guys that are in their rotation right now put them
24:42
Speaker 2: in the bullpen. I guess we'll wait and find out,
24:45
Speaker 2: but that has kind of been their achilles heel, if
24:48
Speaker 2: they have one, is kind of the consistency of that bullpen.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Glassdow's going to be back shortly, they're saying,
25:56
Speaker 1: I don't know when. They're saying. He's going to make
25:58
Speaker 1: a rehab start on fret with OKC or he and
26:02
Speaker 1: then he's four in in sixty pitches. Glassnow make one
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Speaker 1: more rehab start after Friday. So in the next two
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Speaker 1: weeks we're gonna see Tyler Glass now, Blake snell, Yamamoto, Scooble, Sazaki,
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Speaker 1: Lower Robleski, Sandy kofax, Don Drysdale, Jackie Robinson my pitch,
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Speaker 1: I mean.
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Speaker 2: Might come back.
26:26
Speaker 1: I mean it's insane, right, it is insane. But they
26:30
Speaker 1: have not been playing very well. Yes, they've beat in
26:32
Speaker 1: the Royals the last couple of days, but before that
26:34
Speaker 1: they have not been playing very well. So I don't know.
26:36
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see how it's gonna go
26:40
Speaker 1: with the rest of the season with all these weapons
26:43
Speaker 1: for the Dodgers, but somehow Dave Roberts figures it out
26:45
Speaker 1: and the Dodgers is gonna be fine. Let's talk Paul
26:47
Speaker 1: Skins here for a second. KP. I don't know if
26:49
Speaker 1: you watched him pitch last night, but he only went
26:51
Speaker 1: five innings, I think, only through sixty five pitches. We've
26:54
Speaker 1: had people on here talking about how his velocity is
26:57
Speaker 1: down and how it's not where it needs to be
27:00
Speaker 1: and he is not striking a lot of guys out.
27:02
Speaker 1: You see five innings, only four k's. He took a
27:04
Speaker 1: loss last night, tough loss, and didn't score any run.
27:07
Speaker 1: It's hard to win when he zero runs. But I
27:09
Speaker 1: think the most important thing in this graphic, only sixty
27:12
Speaker 1: five pitches last night. Are they trying to save him
27:14
Speaker 1: for something? Aren't they trying to make the playoffs? I
27:16
Speaker 1: don't understand why. And Matt Presser asked Paul Skins if
27:20
Speaker 1: he was surprised being pulled out for sixty five pitches.
27:22
Speaker 1: Not really. If I were the manager, I'd probably do
27:24
Speaker 1: it too. Wish I could have gone more, but it
27:26
Speaker 1: is what it is, and people are questioning is he hurt?
27:30
Speaker 1: Is Paul skins, hurt KP.
27:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's so many layers to this. We
27:34
Speaker 2: don't know. He hasn't come out and said it. The
27:36
Speaker 2: team hasn't come out and say it. He hasn't had
27:39
Speaker 2: a great year. But he's also set the bar so
27:41
Speaker 2: incredibly high for himself. You know, obviously, when he's a
27:46
Speaker 2: velocity guy, he's a stuff guy, and when he isn't
27:50
Speaker 2: really sitting at that high velocity, the first thing you
27:54
Speaker 2: ask yourself is is he hurt? You know, and he's
27:57
Speaker 2: just so good that he was able to get through
27:59
Speaker 2: that start, you know, despite not having his best stuff
28:03
Speaker 2: but only sixty five pitches and you look at his
28:05
Speaker 2: numbers nine to eleven, you kind of throw out the
28:07
Speaker 2: record a little bit. I'm not a big record guy
28:10
Speaker 2: because you're really dependent on your offense a little bit.
28:13
Speaker 2: You know, the innings is significantly down for him, you know,
28:16
Speaker 2: the strikeouts, the innings probably a little bit down. You know,
28:20
Speaker 2: he's always going to be a command guy. The walks
28:22
Speaker 2: isn't a concern, but yeah, I think there's time to
28:24
Speaker 2: be a little bit concerned on whether he's fully healthy.
28:28
Speaker 2: If you know, season three for him, there's just kind
28:31
Speaker 2: of a little bit of wear and tear. The natural
28:34
Speaker 2: regression has taken over, you know, But is this also
28:38
Speaker 2: a sign from the Pirates that this was a team
28:42
Speaker 2: that I was really high on. I love the moves
28:44
Speaker 2: that they made this offseason. You know, we talked about
28:46
Speaker 2: their starting pitching depth. They go out and get a
28:48
Speaker 2: Brandon Lao, you know, they go out and get a
28:50
Speaker 2: Ryan O'Hearn. You know, they start to kind of come
28:54
Speaker 2: together as an offense and be a team that has
28:58
Speaker 2: really stayed relevant for a long time. I'm in terms
29:01
Speaker 2: of wildcard position, but they faded a little bit, and
29:06
Speaker 2: you know they're down there six games back, a lot
29:09
Speaker 2: of teams to overcome. The Cubs are kind of a
29:12
Speaker 2: runaway train. The Diamondbacks are playing unbelievable, The Padres have
29:16
Speaker 2: played better recently, and the Philadelphia Phillies are a great
29:19
Speaker 2: team as well. Are they kind of at a point
29:22
Speaker 2: where they're throwing in the towel a little bit? And
29:25
Speaker 2: is this the first sign of them throwing in the towel? Like, hey, Paul,
29:30
Speaker 2: you're gonna be throwing sixty five seventy pitches the rest
29:32
Speaker 2: of the year. We don't have a chance to win
29:36
Speaker 2: a roads or we don't have a chance to go
29:37
Speaker 2: to the postseason. You're not having the type of season
29:40
Speaker 2: you had last year. You're not really pitching for much either.
29:42
Speaker 2: You're not gonna win a cy Young this year. Maybe
29:45
Speaker 2: this is the first sign of them kind of throwing
29:47
Speaker 2: in the towel a little bit on their season.
29:51
Speaker 1: The biggest concern is the velocity. For me, the velosity
29:53
Speaker 1: is down now. He never he didn't hit ninety seven
29:56
Speaker 1: last night, and no point did he hit In July
29:59
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four he was almost ninety nine miles
30:02
Speaker 1: an hour, and then twenty five he was ninety eight
30:04
Speaker 1: point two. So not to not throw a pitch above
30:06
Speaker 1: ninety seven is the biggest glaring weakness for me with
30:10
Speaker 1: Paul Skens. And he says he's not hurt. The Pirates
30:13
Speaker 1: say he's not hurt, and I guess he's not hurt.
30:14
Speaker 1: But man, it's just a difference when you're used to
30:17
Speaker 1: seeing Paul Paul Skins throw, you know, ninety eight to
30:20
Speaker 1: one hundred, and now he can't even hit ninety seven.
30:22
Speaker 1: I know what happens, but Paul Skins atet that old KP.
30:25
Speaker 1: They protected him, remember, they only let him throw a
30:28
Speaker 1: certain amount of innings and a certain amount of innings,
30:29
Speaker 1: a certain amountings, and also he was a catcher. He
30:32
Speaker 1: wasn't a pitcher his whole life. So I don't know
30:35
Speaker 1: that's the that's the biggest red flag for me, I
30:37
Speaker 1: should say, even though I mean velocity is his.
30:41
Speaker 2: I would say there's gonna be a lot of eyeballs
30:44
Speaker 2: on his next start, you know, because you know, I
30:47
Speaker 2: saw it a little bit earlier this year with a
30:49
Speaker 2: Dylancy start. He came out first inning, wasn't thrown with
30:52
Speaker 2: a lot of velocity, you know, early on in the game,
30:54
Speaker 2: he wasn't thrown with a ton of velocity. He ended
30:57
Speaker 2: up getting it back a little bit later in the game.
30:59
Speaker 2: He end up throwing a one hit her in Boston
31:00
Speaker 2: that game, by the way, And then his next start,
31:03
Speaker 2: he came out and was sitting at that high velocity,
31:06
Speaker 2: and he talked about after the game he just didn't
31:09
Speaker 2: feel fully lose. He felt like mechanically he was off
31:11
Speaker 2: a little bit founded as he started throwing some more pitches.
31:14
Speaker 2: But I definitely think there's a level of concern. He's
31:18
Speaker 2: not saying anything, the team's not saying anything, but I think,
31:22
Speaker 2: you know, four days from now, when he goes out
31:24
Speaker 2: and takes them ount again, I think there will be
31:26
Speaker 2: a lot of eyeballs on his velocity. And I think
31:30
Speaker 2: we'll know more when he touches the rubber again.
31:33
Speaker 1: True, true, So we'll see, we'll see, we'll see what
31:37
Speaker 1: happens with Paul Skans. This is what This is what happens.
31:39
Speaker 1: This is why we always used to say, with expectations. Right,
31:41
Speaker 1: you go out cal Rawly, hit sixty homers, everyone expects
31:44
Speaker 1: you to hit sixty homers. The next year you're Paul Skins,
31:47
Speaker 1: you win Rookie of the Year, you win this cy
31:48
Speaker 1: Young they expect you to win the SIG every year.
31:51
Speaker 1: Not everywhere ear goes perfectly. Things pop up, things, things happen.
31:55
Speaker 1: So this is this is what happens with expectations. Kpe
31:58
Speaker 1: speaking of expectation it Jeremy Meyer, our director, he thought
32:02
Speaker 1: the Red Sox were never going to lose again. They
32:04
Speaker 1: went twenty seven to three. How they've lost four straight,
32:07
Speaker 1: including two to your Toronto Blue Jays, even after trying
32:10
Speaker 1: to even after the Blue Jays had to get four
32:12
Speaker 1: outs in an inning, they still lost that game two
32:15
Speaker 1: to one. So what's going on with the Red Sox?
32:16
Speaker 1: They've stopped hitting completely, especially with runners in scoring position.
32:21
Speaker 2: Nothing is going on. And I love the segue because
32:25
Speaker 2: when you do some incredible things in the game, it
32:27
Speaker 2: becomes the expectation from fans. When you're an individual and
32:31
Speaker 2: you go out and win Rookie of the Year, Sy Young,
32:33
Speaker 2: that's the expectation for you. When you were a team
32:36
Speaker 2: and you have a twenty seven and three stretch in
32:39
Speaker 2: thirty games, which is unheard of in this game, the
32:43
Speaker 2: expectations you're never going to lose. But the way that
32:45
Speaker 2: I see this is, yes, they stopped hitting with the
32:48
Speaker 2: runners in scoring position, but they're three for thirty six
32:52
Speaker 2: over their last four games. To have thirty six guys
32:54
Speaker 2: on base over a four game stretch in scoring position
32:58
Speaker 2: tells you that they're not that far off from continuing
33:01
Speaker 2: that streak. What people don't understand in the game of baseball,
33:05
Speaker 2: in order to go twenty seven and three over a
33:08
Speaker 2: thirty game stretch, you're coming up with big hits consistently,
33:12
Speaker 2: and it's not like the Red Sox didn't have opportunities
33:15
Speaker 2: to come up with that big hit. That's the margins
33:18
Speaker 2: that you play at at the major league level is
33:20
Speaker 2: one hit here, or there. Over these last couple games
33:22
Speaker 2: against Toronto, which by the way, we're one and two
33:25
Speaker 2: run games. We're talking about this team going on the
33:28
Speaker 2: most historic run in the history of baseball. But I'm
33:32
Speaker 2: not super concerned with where they're at. And when you
33:35
Speaker 2: do go twenty seven and three over a stretch, you
33:39
Speaker 2: think about all those kind of moments that allowed you
33:42
Speaker 2: to win a game, these hits that you came up with,
33:44
Speaker 2: these plays defensively, like, the margins are so thin between
33:48
Speaker 2: a win and a loss in the major leagues, and
33:50
Speaker 2: to have this expectation that they're going to just continue
33:54
Speaker 2: to go at a twenty seven and three pace over
33:56
Speaker 2: their next thirty games is unrealistic. But as a person,
33:59
Speaker 2: if I was a Red Sox fan someone that's covering
34:01
Speaker 2: the Red Sox, I look at that number three for
34:04
Speaker 2: thirty six and I'm still very optimistic on what they
34:08
Speaker 2: were able to achieve over this stretch of the thirty
34:11
Speaker 2: games is not that far away. You know, if we
34:13
Speaker 2: were looking at a four game losing streak where maybe
34:16
Speaker 2: they only had ten runners on base, there would be
34:18
Speaker 2: some concern. But they're getting the guys on it's just
34:21
Speaker 2: a matter of getting them in and sometimes it's the
34:23
Speaker 2: difference between winning a game and losing a game.
34:27
Speaker 1: True, the margins are very small, and they're supposed to
34:29
Speaker 1: be getting Roman Anthony back Allegedly soon he's progressed to
34:33
Speaker 1: hitting off a traject machine. He was hitting off a
34:35
Speaker 1: te Now he's moved up to a traject machine. You
34:38
Speaker 1: know what that means, KP. He'll be back within a
34:39
Speaker 1: couple of days. Because the traject machine is just like
34:42
Speaker 1: playing in a major league game. We'll see. I don't know,
34:46
Speaker 1: I've never hit off a traject machine, but I can't
34:48
Speaker 1: imagine that it's I mean, I'm sure the stuff coming
34:51
Speaker 1: out of it is the same, but it's not the
34:52
Speaker 1: same as going out there and having a play.
34:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but it is. It recreates the game
34:58
Speaker 2: in terms of movement and stuff, but nothing replaces the adrenaline,
35:03
Speaker 2: the heartbeat, the situations that games call for, and you're
35:07
Speaker 2: not always going to get that going on a minor
35:09
Speaker 2: league rehab assignment. But when you're a prideful guy and
35:12
Speaker 2: you care and there's certain things that come up in
35:14
Speaker 2: a game and you have to execute those things in
35:17
Speaker 2: a game, you can't replace that with traject But I
35:21
Speaker 2: do as someone who used the traject I do like
35:23
Speaker 2: it as kind of a supplemental of kind of speeding
35:27
Speaker 2: up that curve when you've missed so much time, especially
35:30
Speaker 2: for guys that are not playing every single day, to
35:32
Speaker 2: kind of keep them in the rhythm of the game.
35:34
Speaker 2: It's great, but you know, the game's gone in a
35:38
Speaker 2: little bit different direction. There's probably guys that can only
35:41
Speaker 2: hit off the traject machine and completely skip a rehab assignment.
35:45
Speaker 2: Especially for how long Roman's been out. You know, like
35:48
Speaker 2: you said, it's not unrealistic for him to come back,
35:51
Speaker 2: you know, very soon without even potentially going on a
35:54
Speaker 2: rehab assignment.
35:56
Speaker 1: Watching the Blue Jays game, it's from Joey Vado, glad
35:58
Speaker 1: he's just not back leg or back hitping balls. His
36:01
Speaker 1: forward move is delaying his barrel from snapping in place.
36:04
Speaker 1: He sees the ball, knows it's drivable, but his move
36:06
Speaker 1: causes the bat to lie, keeps him from getting the
36:09
Speaker 1: barrel to the bull's eye. Agree. I don't know. Teacher
36:13
Speaker 1: Man probably agrees with the snap, but I don't know
36:14
Speaker 1: about the other stuff. KP. Do you agree, because it's
36:17
Speaker 1: amazing that Laddie has struggled this much, especially at home.
36:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, once again. I mean we're just talking about the difficulty,
36:24
Speaker 2: the gain, the margins, and the expectations that you kind
36:28
Speaker 2: of set for yourself when you're a player like Laddie.
36:31
Speaker 2: People don't ever expect for you to struggle. And I'm
36:34
Speaker 2: still a little bit, you know, flabbergasted over the fact
36:38
Speaker 2: that a guy that talented has seven home runs, he
36:41
Speaker 2: has a six ninety four ops. Honestly, those look like
36:44
Speaker 2: my numbers.
36:45
Speaker 1: You know.
36:45
Speaker 2: And this is a seven hundred million dollar guy who
36:48
Speaker 2: is the face of the franchise. You never really expect
36:51
Speaker 2: to see it. The fact he hasn't hit a home
36:52
Speaker 2: run at home the entire season is wild to me
36:57
Speaker 2: as far as Joey Vodo's comments. And it's funny because
36:59
Speaker 2: I was on a show in Toronto yesterday and the
37:02
Speaker 2: question they asked me is, if you had some advice
37:05
Speaker 2: for Vladdie to work on in the off season, what
37:07
Speaker 2: would you tell him to work on it? And I honestly
37:09
Speaker 2: didn't even really know how to answer that question. Later
37:11
Speaker 2: that night, Joey Vado comes out and says what he says,
37:15
Speaker 2: and I'm taking what Joey Vado has to say about hitting,
37:19
Speaker 2: you know, like the Bible. This is one of the
37:21
Speaker 2: greatest hitters that I ever got to put my eyes on.
37:25
Speaker 2: He understands his swing, he understands how mcswing mechanics work.
37:30
Speaker 2: I'm a little iffy about the snap, but I understand
37:33
Speaker 2: what he's saying. You know, he probably could have used
37:34
Speaker 2: a different word.
37:35
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said. That's what he said. That's
38:40
Speaker 1: what he said.
38:41
Speaker 3: That's what he said.
38:45
Speaker 5: People miss you.
38:46
Speaker 1: I think, maybe not necessarily the city, it doesn't, but
38:49
Speaker 1: people miss you. That is that part of your dream,
38:52
Speaker 1: your goal.
38:55
Speaker 5: I think at one point I'm going to get back
38:57
Speaker 5: when we don't know, we don't know, you know.
39:00
Speaker 1: And that's something that I went to.
39:06
Speaker 5: We've been through a lot of places this summer, a lot,
39:09
Speaker 5: you know, from volleyball tournaments in Minnesota to see our
39:14
Speaker 5: niece dominate uh her Nationals too. We went back to
39:19
Speaker 5: Boston and we watched three three matches at Gillette or sorry,
39:25
Speaker 5: Boston Stadium, Boston Stadium's note, Boston State. We went there,
39:31
Speaker 5: and then we went to Switzerland and we went to Italy. Uh.
39:36
Speaker 5: In Italy, I had a chance to actually a.
39:40
Speaker 1: Text.
39:41
Speaker 5: Alan Bart who used to work with us, you know,
39:43
Speaker 5: with the with the Red Sox. He used to be
39:45
Speaker 5: with the Royals and the Mets, and we're going back
39:49
Speaker 5: and forth. He lives, he lives in Florence right now,
39:52
Speaker 5: and we were trying to hooked up, you know, to
39:55
Speaker 5: have lunch or breakfast, and uh. In the conversation, I said, man,
40:00
Speaker 5: my family needed me, and he goes, you keep saying that,
40:07
Speaker 5: and the way I see it, you needed your family,
40:11
Speaker 5: and Carl, I'm telling you man, when he said that,
40:15
Speaker 5: I was like, holy shoot, you know what, yes, because
40:20
Speaker 5: you get caught up on everything, you know, like I
40:22
Speaker 5: haven't stopped.
40:23
Speaker 1: I haven't stopped. That's Alex Corroon dur from the dugout Here.
40:28
Speaker 1: On the Foul Territory Network with Karl Ravich and Justin Musel,
40:32
Speaker 1: Alex Carr talked about why he turned down a chance
40:34
Speaker 1: to manage the Phillies after being fired by Boston in
40:37
Speaker 1: late April. I think at one point I'm going to
40:39
Speaker 1: get back when we don't know, corusaid I needed my family.
40:42
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, priorities are priorities. These
40:45
Speaker 1: people are amazing and they're loving life all right. Let's
40:48
Speaker 1: be honest here, Kipie. We miss a lot of time.
40:49
Speaker 1: And something I was always told when I was playing
40:52
Speaker 1: baseball was even when I was home, meaning home games,
40:56
Speaker 1: I wasn't home right because in your mind you're always thinking,
41:00
Speaker 1: who were I facing that night, who's pitching for us
41:02
Speaker 1: that night? How do I get them through seven innings?
41:04
Speaker 1: How am I going to win the game? What time
41:05
Speaker 1: is it? You're always like, oh, man, do I got
41:07
Speaker 1: to leave yet for the field? No matter what, And
41:09
Speaker 1: even though you're present, you're not really present. How much
41:12
Speaker 1: does this mean now that Alex score to hear someone
41:14
Speaker 1: say this, that he's getting to spend time with his family, Well.
41:18
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you said that, because I knew I
41:20
Speaker 2: wasn't alone in it, but hearing you say that, it's
41:23
Speaker 2: so true. I think the greatest compliment I ever got
41:28
Speaker 2: in my life when I retired and I knew I
41:31
Speaker 2: was done playing the game. You know, and it's not
41:34
Speaker 2: the people immediately close to you. It's like that second
41:37
Speaker 2: layer of people that only see you, you know, occasionally
41:40
Speaker 2: during the season. But someone's just said you look different,
41:43
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what do you mean. They're like less stressed,
41:45
Speaker 2: you know, more engaged, like you. You know, your eye
41:49
Speaker 2: contacts better because people don't understand the stress that we're
41:52
Speaker 2: under as a player, and just because we're home doesn't
41:54
Speaker 2: mean we're present. And you know, having my wife and
41:58
Speaker 2: kids with me along the way on my journey. Like
42:02
Speaker 2: you said, you're home, but you're never present. You're always
42:04
Speaker 2: consumed about who's pitching, how's my swing working, how's the
42:09
Speaker 2: team doing? Am I getting? You know, all the things
42:10
Speaker 2: that happen. And I think for a guy like Alex Cora,
42:14
Speaker 2: who's been a baseball kind of lifer, who really went
42:18
Speaker 2: from playing to kind of in the dugout, who's always
42:20
Speaker 2: been involved in the game, and then you finally get
42:23
Speaker 2: a summer off and you realize, man, how much you've
42:28
Speaker 2: really missed in your life. And when you kind of
42:30
Speaker 2: can shut that part of your brain off that consumes
42:33
Speaker 2: you so much about the ins and outs of the
42:36
Speaker 2: game of baseball, and you actually get a chance to
42:39
Speaker 2: be around your wife, your kids, lose that stress of,
42:44
Speaker 2: you know, having to compete every day to be the
42:46
Speaker 2: best at what you want to do. And I hear
42:48
Speaker 2: this all the time when I'm in Toronto. You know, oh,
42:51
Speaker 2: we could use you, man. You look like you're in
42:52
Speaker 2: great shape. You should play. Would you ever consider playing?
42:55
Speaker 2: I'm like, hell, no, one, because physically I can't do
42:58
Speaker 2: it anymore. But people don't understand emotionally spiritually, physically. It
43:05
Speaker 2: takes everything out of you, especially me. You know, for
43:08
Speaker 2: me to be as good of a player as I was,
43:10
Speaker 2: I couldn't be half in. I had to be one
43:12
Speaker 2: thousand percent committed, and a lot of other things had
43:15
Speaker 2: to sacrifice, which you know, fell on my wife and
43:18
Speaker 2: my kids, and my relationships with my parents and my
43:21
Speaker 2: brother and my friends. All of those things had to sacrifice.
43:24
Speaker 2: So for alex cor to kind of come out and
43:26
Speaker 2: say that that he would want to come back, it
43:29
Speaker 2: might be a difficult thing for him to come back.
43:31
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a very accomplished man, not only
43:34
Speaker 2: as an athlete and as a player in the game,
43:36
Speaker 2: he's accomplished a lot as a manager. And sometimes I
43:39
Speaker 2: think when you're in that arena, you don't see anything else.
43:43
Speaker 2: And I think, finally, when you get out of that
43:45
Speaker 2: arena and you get a chance to travel the world,
43:47
Speaker 2: you get a chance to connect with you know, your
43:50
Speaker 2: nieces and nephews and your wife and your kids, and
43:52
Speaker 2: you get to go explore the world and kind of
43:56
Speaker 2: you know, bear the the or reap the benefits of
43:58
Speaker 2: your hard work over many, many years. It might be
44:01
Speaker 2: difficult for him to come back and manage again.
44:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's going to be jobs open, and his
44:07
Speaker 1: wife has come out and said that, you know, or
44:09
Speaker 1: he's come out and said his wife wanted him to
44:10
Speaker 1: turn down the job, which I totally understand our fiance
44:14
Speaker 1: excuse me, sorry, my wife, sorry fiance, And I get
44:19
Speaker 1: it because it's it's hard once you're when you're in
44:21
Speaker 1: that life to get out of that life. But if
44:23
Speaker 1: a team like the Mets, right or the Phillies or
44:26
Speaker 1: another team comes out and they I mean, he's already
44:28
Speaker 1: making a lot of money, so if they throw a
44:29
Speaker 1: huge sum of money at him, I just think that
44:34
Speaker 1: I see him. I think I see him coming back
44:37
Speaker 1: and doing it again. He got a nice break. But
44:39
Speaker 1: you know what, you know this kpe once it's in
44:40
Speaker 1: your blood, it's in your blood. So yes or no?
44:43
Speaker 1: Does does Alex Korra manage next year? Yeah?
44:47
Speaker 2: I think he does. I think he does because I
44:49
Speaker 2: think the Phillies job may be open. I think the
44:51
Speaker 2: Mets job could be open. Both those teams have a
44:55
Speaker 2: lot to offer money wise, roster wise, and you you
45:00
Speaker 2: know what, and for everything I said, I think it
45:02
Speaker 2: can be true for most people. But what you said,
45:05
Speaker 2: it's in his blood and sometimes all you really need
45:09
Speaker 2: is that summer off for him to be able to
45:11
Speaker 2: go out and do these things he never got an
45:13
Speaker 2: opportunity to do, and maybe it kind of fills his
45:16
Speaker 2: cup enough to be like, you know what, I reconnected.
45:20
Speaker 2: I got to travel, I got to do things I
45:22
Speaker 2: didn't get a chance to do when I was in
45:24
Speaker 2: the manager's seat, you know, over the last handful of years.
45:28
Speaker 2: But it's just who I am. It's part of my
45:30
Speaker 2: DNA is to be a manager, a leader of men.
45:34
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't be I wouldn't bet against him coming
45:38
Speaker 2: back to manage next year.
45:40
Speaker 1: Okay, well, nice. Nice. You can check out Alex Korra's
45:44
Speaker 1: full interview on Dirt on YouTube at Dirt from the Dugout,
45:47
Speaker 1: along with their conversations with Dustin Pedroia, Dusty Baker. Myl
45:53
Speaker 1: Michaelas has officially been DFAID Magic. Michaelis is DFA Jackson Kent.
45:59
Speaker 1: We'll start for the national tomorrow. I'm assuming that means
46:01
Speaker 1: today that there is no official corresponding move. Tonight, Miles
46:05
Speaker 1: Michaelis was saying goodbye to teammates in the clubhouse. Miles
46:08
Speaker 1: Michaels has had a nice run He's had a nice career.
46:11
Speaker 1: Is this it for Miles Michael As you think.
46:14
Speaker 2: No, I you know, there's always need for starting pitching.
46:17
Speaker 2: You know, we talked to Ken a little bit earlier
46:19
Speaker 2: about just like a guy like Trey Savage, Jamison Taijong
46:22
Speaker 2: just got hurt. You could see him potentially him landing
46:27
Speaker 2: with a team like the Blue Jays. Veteran pitching is
46:29
Speaker 2: always needed, especially down the stretch. So I don't think
46:33
Speaker 2: this is it for him. I think, you know, his
46:36
Speaker 2: career arc is pretty amazing, you know, not having a
46:40
Speaker 2: lot of success in the major leagues, going overseas and
46:42
Speaker 2: then coming back having a ton of success. It's a
46:46
Speaker 2: pretty incredible story.
46:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, I mean, is that a nice career. He's
46:50
Speaker 1: made some money. He's got a big farm out down
46:53
Speaker 1: there by Jupiter where he's from, and yes, there is
46:56
Speaker 1: farming in Florida, and yes there's farming in South Florida.
46:58
Speaker 1: If you haven't been down there, it's a little bit different.
47:00
Speaker 1: But yeah, nice career. I mean, they've only have two
47:04
Speaker 1: starting pitchers in the Nationals that have spent the entire
47:07
Speaker 1: season on the actor or on the active roster, Kate
47:09
Speaker 1: Cavally and Your Beat Vivas. So the Nationals they're looking
47:13
Speaker 1: for anybody, right, They're looking for anybody they can hit.
47:15
Speaker 1: But man, now it sounds like Brad Lord could get
47:18
Speaker 1: some work in as a starter, or at least be
47:19
Speaker 1: built back up into one that's from Spencer Nusbaum. So
47:23
Speaker 1: maybe Brad Lord is a starter going forward. But man,
47:27
Speaker 1: the Nationals this offseason, if I'm them, I'm looking for
47:29
Speaker 1: someone to pitch. And then Spencer Nussbaum again. Jackson Kent
47:33
Speaker 1: will be the thirty fourth fifth person to throw a
47:35
Speaker 1: pitch for the Nationals this season. If Michaels is the
47:38
Speaker 1: corresponding move, only two of them will have spent the
47:41
Speaker 1: entire season on the roster Kate Cavali and Your Beat Vivas.
47:44
Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy by the way that they've had this
47:47
Speaker 1: many pitchers and only two have been there the entire season.
47:50
Speaker 1: I don't know where that triple A is, but there's
47:51
Speaker 1: a lot of plane flight bus rides back and forth.
47:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think, kind of going back to
47:57
Speaker 2: the Paul Skiing things, I think this is kind of
48:00
Speaker 2: the waving the white flag for the Nationals a little bit.
48:04
Speaker 2: Who took baseball by surprise with the amount of success
48:08
Speaker 2: they've had this year, and a lot of that's come
48:10
Speaker 2: from what they've been able to do offensively. But I
48:13
Speaker 2: don't think they expected to be in this position. I
48:15
Speaker 2: don't think they are expected to even you know, get
48:18
Speaker 2: a wildcard spot. So I think this is them throwing
48:21
Speaker 2: in the towel a little bit and really building for
48:22
Speaker 2: the future. Having thirty five different guys kind of throw
48:26
Speaker 2: a pitch this year. I think it's really just been
48:29
Speaker 2: tryouts for them.
48:30
Speaker 1: Mitz Bannon here. The Blue Jays have claimed Paul Seawald
48:33
Speaker 1: as Steve Gilbert. MLB first reported he had a three
48:37
Speaker 1: one eight ERA entering June twenty third, but gave up
48:39
Speaker 1: seventeen and runs and fourteen appearances was DF eight on Monday,
48:43
Speaker 1: veteran reliever with one hundred and ten career saves run
48:45
Speaker 1: in to help a fatigued Blue Jays bullpen. We love
48:49
Speaker 1: Paul Seawalt on the show KP. He's one of the
48:51
Speaker 1: great dudes. He's got a bunch of saves for the
48:54
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks this year. His era was inflated, but I know
48:59
Speaker 1: Torri Levello said it was gut wrenching for them to
49:02
Speaker 1: have to do this. What will he what will he
49:04
Speaker 1: do for the for the Blue Jays? Excuse me, I
49:06
Speaker 1: mean Louis Varlin ain't going anywhere as closer, so Seawall
49:09
Speaker 1: just a veteran presence to try to eat some innings
49:11
Speaker 1: for him somewhere.
49:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean potentially fills that kind of role of
49:15
Speaker 2: Jeff Hoffman, guy with closing experience no longer closing seventh inning,
49:20
Speaker 2: you know, kind of a fireman situation. You know, he's
49:23
Speaker 2: been great in his career. You said, one hundred and
49:24
Speaker 2: ten saves. He's been outstanding his career. A little bit
49:27
Speaker 2: of a down year, but maybe a change of scenery
49:30
Speaker 2: could do him wonders. The Blue Jays have also, this
49:35
Speaker 2: bullpen has just been taxed over this last week, three
49:39
Speaker 2: different cities, back to back to back days, four extra
49:42
Speaker 2: inning games over a five day stretch. They've thrown a
49:45
Speaker 2: lot of pitches in that bullpen, and Paul Seawall can
49:48
Speaker 2: just kind of be a breath of fresh air for
49:50
Speaker 2: them for however long he goes out and pitches.
49:53
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, listen, adding veteran guys down the stretch, there's
49:59
Speaker 1: never a bad thing for teams, especially a team like
50:02
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays. You know, even though we don't think
50:05
Speaker 1: they're in it. They still are kind of alive for
50:08
Speaker 1: a while card race, So you know, there are only
50:10
Speaker 1: a few games out. If they keep beating the Red
50:12
Speaker 1: Sox the way they are, they might be right back
50:13
Speaker 1: in this thing quicker than we realized. So yeah, I
50:16
Speaker 1: love this. I love this for policy Wald and he
50:17
Speaker 1: gets to play for another team and spread his happiness,
50:20
Speaker 1: his joy and his golf game to not only another
50:23
Speaker 1: team but also another country.
50:26
Speaker 2: And a tremendous reporting by Mitch Bannon, you know blue
50:29
Speaker 2: Bird Territories own Mitch Bannon.
50:31
Speaker 1: Yes, there you go. If Ricky Romero would have had this,
50:36
Speaker 1: then we really would have had some We could had
50:37
Speaker 1: Miller Lite, We could have had a party and Bluebird
50:40
Speaker 1: on top of the CN Tower. By the way, we
50:42
Speaker 1: only have a couple of seconds. Have you done the
50:43
Speaker 1: CN Tower walk?
50:45
Speaker 2: Yeah? I did it on Canada Day. It was terrifying,
50:48
Speaker 2: terrify this year?
50:49
Speaker 1: You did it?
50:50
Speaker 2: Did it this year just for charity?
50:52
Speaker 1: Or do you just do it for fun?
50:55
Speaker 2: Nothing in life is free, aj you know that. But yeah,
50:58
Speaker 2: the goodness of my heart, for the fiftieth aniversary of
51:00
Speaker 2: the Toronto Blue Jays, I'll leave it at that.
51:02
Speaker 1: Okay, awesome. Were you scared when they made you lean back?
51:06
Speaker 2: I didn't lean back. I couldn't do it. I couldn't
51:08
Speaker 2: even let go of a rope.
51:21
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Speaker 1: also get the og KP, which is the one I'm
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Speaker 1: wearing today. I wore a Murcami one a couple of
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Speaker 1: days ago. I wore the Adlie Ritchman one yesterday. You
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Speaker 1: got a Sam Antonaci there you or you could just
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Speaker 1: get the old og original Foul Territory shirt KP. I
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Speaker 1: don't know which one you're into, but it sounds like
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Speaker 1: you should get a Vlad Guerrero Junior shirt for Blueberry
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Speaker 1: Bluebird Territory.
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Speaker 2: Or a Matt Olson shirt. I'm gonna get me a
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Speaker 2: Matt Olsen shirt because I love me some Matt Olson.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair, that's fair enough. And then also, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know when you can wear your Vlatty Guerrero Junior
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Speaker 1: shirt because next time you do this when you go
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Speaker 1: up on top of the CN Tower, apparently we have
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Speaker 1: footage of it. I need to see this footage, so
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Speaker 1: can we roll this footage? That's Canada.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty pretty incredible day they did. The Blue Jays
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Speaker 2: do a great job, you know, much like you said
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Speaker 2: the Chicago White Sox do a really good job of
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Speaker 2: you know, the Pope day and the giveaway. The Blue
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Speaker 2: Jays always go extra for big events. And this happened
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Speaker 2: to be the fiftieth anniversary of the Toronto Blue Jays
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Speaker 2: this season, it happened to also be the fiftieth anniversary
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Speaker 2: of the c N Tower, so they tied the two together.
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Speaker 2: And during the anthem, the Canadian anthem, they kind of
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Speaker 2: made a little bit of a special announcement that there
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Speaker 2: was gonna be a couple former Toronto Blue Jays up there.
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Speaker 2: This is me asking them how safe is it really
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Speaker 2: to go up there? And they told me today or
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Speaker 2: that day sixty people had gone up and sixty people
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Speaker 2: had come down. So I went up there with a
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Speaker 2: little bit of confidence, but I'm not a Heights guy.
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Speaker 2: I really treated this like I had no way out.
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Speaker 2: I really could have just said no. But the Blue
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Speaker 2: Jays have always been great to me and my family
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Speaker 2: and aj As. You know, when you form relationships with
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Speaker 2: the people behind the scenes that spend a lot of
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Speaker 2: time and energy trying to put together the best kind
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Speaker 2: of events possible. When they reached out to me and
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Speaker 2: told me, you know, justin Smoke and Marcoschato were in,
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Speaker 2: who are some of my best friends in the game,
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Speaker 2: but they were having trouble getting some other people to commit.
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Speaker 2: I said, you know what I'm in, I'll do it,
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Speaker 2: and as you could tell, those guys are a little
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Speaker 2: bit more comfortable. I got the one hand on the rope.
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Speaker 2: I never let know that rope that whole time for
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Speaker 2: whatever reason, and I had the power stance too. When
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Speaker 2: I had one leg back, I felt so much more
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Speaker 2: comfortable up there, and despite me being terrified of being
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Speaker 2: up there, it was the most incredible view with the
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Speaker 2: roof open, being able to look down into the Rogers
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Speaker 2: Center in a sea of red on Canada Day with
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Speaker 2: that giant flag. I would like to do it again.
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Speaker 2: I would be probably equally as scared to do it again,
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Speaker 2: but I think the second time, having a feel for it,
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Speaker 2: I think I would be a little bit more adventurous.
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Speaker 2: Potentially let go of the rope first. Secondly, maybe do
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Speaker 2: the leanover. Both Marco and Justin both were able to
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Speaker 2: sit their butt over the edge. Justin being a hunter,
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Speaker 2: he's very comfortable being in a harness, so he was
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Speaker 2: very comfortable with the idea of trusting the harness. Marco,
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Speaker 2: who's a little bit more of a daredevil and fearless
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Speaker 2: when it comes out stuff, he was able to kind
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Speaker 2: of lean over the edge of me. When I was
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Speaker 2: close to the c and tower. Further away from the edge,
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Speaker 2: I felt a little bit more safe.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you look terrified. I've always said I wanted to
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Speaker 1: do this, but you look like me when I had
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Speaker 1: to skydive. Once I said yes, I couldn't back out.
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Speaker 1: So once you say yes, you have to do it.
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Speaker 1: It was that experience like it was the same thing,
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Speaker 1: like you said, but the difference is I had a
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Speaker 1: Navy seal strapped in my back. You had Justin smoke
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Speaker 1: and Marcostrada strout to your back, so I felt a
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Speaker 1: little bit safer, and I always wondered. We always talked
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Speaker 1: about this when the CN Tower, if it ever fell,
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Speaker 1: which way do you run? Because if it starts flying
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Speaker 1: towards the SkyDome, which way do you run? And anyways,
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Speaker 1: I don't need to talk about We always would look
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Speaker 1: up at it and say, man, if it comes at us,
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Speaker 1: which way do we go? But beautiful job you did.
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Speaker 2: You ever have that debate if you could, if you
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Speaker 2: got up there on the top, do you think you
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Speaker 2: could throw a ball into the Roger Center?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 1: I feel like I could.
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Speaker 2: It's further than you think. But when you get up there,
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Speaker 2: it's you think gravity would help you. But it's it's
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Speaker 2: one of those debates. I guess as someone there, you
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Speaker 2: debated it all the time.
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Speaker 1: All right, see everybody tomorrow felt territory again. No Scott,
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Speaker 1: just me and KP. Coach