Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / The 6 Worst Parenting Tips We’re Never Taking Again
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- 0:00Speaker 1: There is so much helpful parenting advice out there, so
- 0:04Speaker 1: much that makes you go, oh, that's definitely going to help.
- 0:07Speaker 1: It's going to make me a better parent, it's going
- 0:08Speaker 1: to increase the quality of my connection between myself and
- 0:11Speaker 1: my children. I need to do this. And Instagram, TikTok
- 0:15Speaker 1: and the other social platforms are some of the places
- 0:18Speaker 1: where you get that advice. But my goodness, there's some
- 0:21Speaker 1: bad stuff out there as well, not helpful at all.
- 0:25Speaker 1: And today I'm the Happy Families podcast where you get
- 0:27Speaker 1: real parenting solutions every day because we're Ausralia's most downloaded
- 0:30Speaker 1: parenting podcast, Kylie and I are going to walk you
- 0:33Speaker 1: through our three what would you call it, the three
- 0:37Speaker 1: pieces of parenting advice that we're going to ignore forever
- 0:40Speaker 1: and teach our kids to ignore and hopefully help you
- 0:42Speaker 1: encourage you to ignore as well. Stay with us. So, Kylie,
- 0:51Speaker 1: I'm going to get you to kick it off with
- 0:53Speaker 1: your first one, and we're going to go like you me,
- 0:56Speaker 1: you me, you me, and let's share the three things
- 0:58Speaker 1: each that we think we should ignoring as parents because
- 1:01Speaker 1: the parenting advice is terrible.
- 1:03Speaker 2: So my first one is the whole myth that controlled
- 1:08Speaker 2: crying is an opportunity for babies to learn independence. Yeah
- 1:13Speaker 2: through distress.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Yeah Yeah, that bad idea.
- 1:16Speaker 2: And fundamentally misunderstands how attachment works.
- 1:21Speaker 1: I've got to jump in really quickly. I spoke to
- 1:23Speaker 1: somebody just the other day who was all for control crying,
- 1:26Speaker 1: and I asked them how old their child was, and
- 1:29Speaker 1: it was like a three month old child or something
- 1:31Speaker 1: like that, and I was just like, I'm totally against it.
- 1:34Speaker 1: But even if you are going to do it, research
- 1:36Speaker 1: in this specific area is actually quite clear. There's not
- 1:39Speaker 1: a lot of good research on control crying, letting them
- 1:41Speaker 1: cry it out, but there is clear research that if
- 1:44Speaker 1: your child is under six months, you don't do it, it's
- 1:48Speaker 1: bad for the child, full stop, end of story. Just don't.
- 1:52Speaker 1: I just wanted to put that in as a public
- 1:53Speaker 1: service announcement. But anyway, back to you, So there's a
- 1:56Speaker 1: reason that you don't like it.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Well, when we ignore our babies prime reform of communication,
- 2:01Speaker 2: what are we teaching them. We're teaching them that they
- 2:03Speaker 2: don't matter like it just it breaks my heart and
- 2:07Speaker 2: I can't. I can't do it.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Yeah, And we've been there and we've been through it,
- 2:11Speaker 1: and it's It's pretty brutal, isn't it like a really
- 2:14Speaker 1: really rough, rough thing to do, Kylie. My first one,
- 2:18Speaker 1: My first one is that timeouts teach consequences. I mean,
- 2:22Speaker 1: I've been on a personal mission to eradicate super nannies
- 2:25Speaker 1: you need a timeout thing from the Parenting Resource Manual
- 2:29Speaker 1: for about twenty years now. Timeouts are essentially punishment disguised
- 2:35Speaker 1: as pedagogy. That is, I'm trying to teach you something here.
- 2:39Speaker 1: But you know what they do. They prioritize adult control
- 2:42Speaker 1: over any learning and relationship repair. When you put a
- 2:45Speaker 1: child in time out, you just make them into the victim,
- 2:49Speaker 1: and they you make yourself their enemy. The only learning
- 2:53Speaker 1: that happens is a plot revenge, like they learned.
- 2:55Speaker 2: I was about to say, like, who in their right
- 2:58Speaker 2: mind things that getting their child and try and then
- 3:01Speaker 2: isolating them is going to create any positive feelings in
- 3:05Speaker 2: their relationship.
- 3:05Speaker 1: I'm glad to use the word isolation. So doctor Daniel Siegel,
- 3:09Speaker 1: who wrote The Whole Brainchild, he highlights that isolation during
- 3:13Speaker 1: emotional distress actually impairs the developing brain's capacity for self regulation.
- 3:18Speaker 1: And if there's no self regulation, there's not going to
- 3:20Speaker 1: be any learning. Children when they're struggling with their behavior.
- 3:24Speaker 1: They don't need banishment. They need connection, they need problem solving,
- 3:27Speaker 1: They need someone to help them understand their feelings, not
- 3:29Speaker 1: just suppress their behavior. So my first one is, let's
- 3:32Speaker 1: let's just not take any advice. Pairing advice that I'm
- 3:34Speaker 1: ignoring time out is good for kids? Not true. I
- 3:39Speaker 1: can't believe I just made that noise. All right, what's
- 3:41Speaker 1: your second one?
- 3:41Speaker 2: Number two for me is responsiveness spoils your child? Just
- 3:48Speaker 2: this advice that just treats love like this finite resource.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Oh, you're spoiling them, You're giving them attention, You're going
- 3:54Speaker 1: to spoil them.
- 3:55Speaker 2: I yeah, And I think that the idea that giving
- 4:03Speaker 2: our children attention is actually going to do them damage
- 4:07Speaker 2: is so far from the truth it breaks my heart.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's like this old fashioned traditional concept
- 4:16Speaker 1: that if you spoil your child, it's basically saying your
- 4:20Speaker 1: kid's naturally manipulative, as opposed to your children are naturally
- 4:24Speaker 1: seeking connection and security. To me, that's the central thing there.
- 4:29Speaker 1: You are not spoiling your child if you give them
- 4:30Speaker 1: attention they need. Your responsiveness would be my response to that.
- 4:34Speaker 1: After the break, my last two, including what to do
- 4:38Speaker 1: about tantruming children. Apparently if you ignore it, it'll stop.
- 4:41Speaker 1: And the myth that we're supposed to let our kids
- 4:45Speaker 1: learn to self soothe. And I know you've got a
- 4:48Speaker 1: classic that you might read about in Jane Austen. Okay, Kylie,
- 4:59Speaker 1: I've got to You've got one piece of pairing advice
- 5:02Speaker 1: that we've decided that these things just need to be ignored.
- 5:05Speaker 1: There's so much good advice out there, and yet the
- 5:07Speaker 1: bad stuff persists and prevails all too often.
- 5:11Speaker 2: You say ignored, I say abolished.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Okay, abolished, ignored. Anyone who does this needs to sit
- 5:17Speaker 1: in the naughty chair for forty No, that doesn't. I
- 5:21Speaker 1: thought that was really funny. I thought that was really funny.
- 5:24Speaker 1: All right, here's my next one. Just ignore the tantrum
- 5:27Speaker 1: and it will stop. Is pairing advice that I think
- 5:29Speaker 1: needs to be thrown in the dust bin and we
- 5:32Speaker 1: need to come up with better solutions. What do I
- 5:34Speaker 1: mean by that? So research shows that kids who receive
- 5:38Speaker 1: empathy when they're emotional learn to develop better emotion regulation
- 5:44Speaker 1: of skills than kids who are ignored, which makes sense, right,
- 5:46Speaker 1: Like if you're having an outburst and somebody comes to
- 5:48Speaker 1: you with a little bit of softness and validation. It
- 5:50Speaker 1: says you having a really tough time, aren't you? Or
- 5:52Speaker 1: you're really upset, aren't you. It helps your system to
- 5:55Speaker 1: reset and recalibrate all of those stress hormones, all of
- 5:58Speaker 1: that adrenaline and nore adrenaline of the cortisol at all subsides.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Because now you feel connection, and you feel security, you
- 6:06Speaker 1: feel empathy. It just feels good. Is my analogy. If
- 6:11Speaker 1: I've got a friend who is distressed, I'm not going
- 6:14Speaker 1: to ignore them. I'm going to go to them and
- 6:16Speaker 1: put my arm around them and say, you look like
- 6:19Speaker 1: you're having a really bad day. I'm here for you.
- 6:22Speaker 1: I don't understand why we think that abandoning children in
- 6:25Speaker 1: their most vulnerable moments teaches them anything except that our
- 6:30Speaker 1: love is conditional. Some one goes in the bin. Just
- 6:32Speaker 1: ignore the tantrumental stop wile I out of garbage. We
- 6:34Speaker 1: need to consign that to the annals of parenting history.
- 6:38Speaker 1: What's your last one?
- 6:39Speaker 2: You tease? This has been something you'd find in Jane Austin,
- 6:41Speaker 2: and yet it's still prevalent in today's society that the
- 6:45Speaker 2: idea that children should be seen and not heard. And
- 6:48Speaker 2: I would think that often most parents would actually push
- 6:51Speaker 2: against this idea that they support it. But the reality is.
- 6:56Speaker 1: In practice, in practice.
- 6:58Speaker 2: We hate it when our kids push back. We hate it.
- 7:02Speaker 2: We call it disrespectful, and we call it backchat.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Right, we just want compliance, We just want to get
- 7:07Speaker 1: us to do as they're told, to be quiet and
- 7:09Speaker 1: make life easy.
- 7:10Speaker 2: But what we actually do is when we silence our kids'
- 7:15Speaker 2: voices and we don't allow them a safe place to
- 7:18Speaker 2: work through their emotions and they're questioning their curiosity around
- 7:23Speaker 2: this and they're pushback on it, we're actually teaching them
- 7:26Speaker 2: that their opinions don't.
- 7:27Speaker 1: Matter, and that ignoring their voice, to.
- 7:31Speaker 2: Ignore their own voice, and to never question authority just
- 7:36Speaker 2: because someone's in a place of authority doesn't make them right.
- 7:39Speaker 1: We need to teach them to be respectful when they
- 7:43Speaker 1: push back. I mean, we've just done a podcast about
- 7:45Speaker 1: that on Monday. Kids need to be considerate, and all
- 7:48Speaker 1: too often they're clumsy in the way that they push back.
- 7:50Speaker 1: But I just love that. I think that's exactly right
- 7:54Speaker 1: and a little bit less Jane Austen because it's twenty
- 7:57Speaker 1: twenty five.
- 7:59Speaker 2: Yeah, the goal is quiet compliance, it's raising humans who
- 8:03Speaker 2: can think for themselves, think critically, and communicate clearly.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Okay, I love it. Here's my last one. The advice
- 8:11Speaker 1: that's out there, I hear it all the time is
- 8:13Speaker 1: that kids need to learn to self soothe. All right,
- 8:16Speaker 1: so you've got a child who's emotionally disregulated and they
- 8:18Speaker 1: need to learn to calm themselves down. The reality is
- 8:22Speaker 1: it's really helpful if they can. But when you've got
- 8:24Speaker 1: a four year old who's having a tantrum because they
- 8:25Speaker 1: got the wrong color mug or bowl, or they didn't
- 8:28Speaker 1: get what their brother got or their sister got, and
- 8:31Speaker 1: they're having a tantrum, that's they're not going to learn
- 8:33Speaker 1: to self soothe in that moment. And the time that
- 8:35Speaker 1: they're most likely to learn to self soothe is when
- 8:38Speaker 1: they have a parent who's willing to pause, be in
- 8:41Speaker 1: that tough space with them and show them how it's
- 8:44Speaker 1: done to coregulate with them.
- 8:46Speaker 2: I'm so got to use that word, because that's exactly
- 8:48Speaker 2: what I was thinking. We're not actually supposed to do
- 8:50Speaker 2: this on our own, We're actually supposed to do this.
- 8:53Speaker 1: I was going to say that, I went on, yeah
- 8:55Speaker 1: exactly right, Yeah, yeah.
- 8:56Speaker 2: Yeah, coregulation is how we do it. We catch other
- 8:59Speaker 2: people's car, we catch other people's piece, we catch other
- 9:02Speaker 2: people's love. And it's not about codependency. It's acknowledging that
- 9:06Speaker 2: when we have big emotions, we just need someone to
- 9:09Speaker 2: see us.
- 9:10Speaker 1: Yeah. I soothe myself way better if I'm emotionally distressed
- 9:14Speaker 1: when I spend time with you, or if I'm emotionally
- 9:17Speaker 1: distressed because of you, which happens very very infrequently. I
- 9:21Speaker 1: soothe myself better when I get to just be in
- 9:23Speaker 1: the company of others.
- 9:24Speaker 2: And sometimes you don't even need them to do anything.
- 9:28Speaker 1: We are ultra social people. In fact, just talking about
- 9:31Speaker 1: this now it reminds me of so the guy behind
- 9:34Speaker 1: attachment parenting, that parenting style that you hear about from
- 9:37Speaker 1: time to time. Doctor Alan Shaw. His research on attachment
- 9:41Speaker 1: shows that emotion regulation develops through thousands repeated experiences of
- 9:52Speaker 1: coregulation with caring people around you.
- 9:55Speaker 2: You think about, you're having a bad day, you don't
- 9:58Speaker 2: want to be around anyone, but somebody love pushes you
- 10:01Speaker 2: out the door and says, come on, we're going to
- 10:02Speaker 2: go and do something. Nine times out of ten you
- 10:05Speaker 2: have the best day ever, and not because you've talked
- 10:08Speaker 2: about anything particular, but you've actually you've gone through a
- 10:11Speaker 2: coregulation process together without even knowing that that's what you've done.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Yeah, I just had a thought about that. How you
- 10:18Speaker 1: have to have the repeated, thousands and thousands of experiences
- 10:20Speaker 1: of coregulations so that you can learn how to do it.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Expecting a child to calm themselves down without first learning
- 10:27Speaker 1: how to have being shown how to with somebody else,
- 10:29Speaker 1: like how it feels to be calmed is kind of
- 10:32Speaker 1: like expecting them to learn how to read without ever
- 10:35Speaker 1: having been read to just doesn't happen anyway. They are
- 10:40Speaker 1: our well, my three and your three so six parenting
- 10:43Speaker 1: ideas paring advice that we are ignoring forever and ever
- 10:47Speaker 1: and ever. And we really hope that our kids listening
- 10:48Speaker 1: to this podcast for the rest of their lives so
- 10:51Speaker 1: that they can learn how to not do those things.
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- 11:13Speaker 1: the mistakes that we've made as parents. Hopefully we can
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