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  Hey it's that car show live from the LA Auto Show in Los Angeles.
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  I guess that's. Right.
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  LA could be the Louisiana car show, right?
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  That's right, that's a little different.
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  Los Angeles Auto. Show Yeah, we're in a locked
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  room in the Media Center, but the walls only go up about 2/3
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  of the way so everyone else can hear what we're doing here.
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  We're having a good time. So it's me.
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  Dan had to get back to the museum.
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  So Lindsays here, Michael Isasso, our our fifth beetle,
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  our 4th that car show guys here and friend of the show, Jorge
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  Aquino of tormenting tarmac. Hey kids, it's good to see you.
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  It's like we have a sound engineered in that.
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  I like this. You know so.
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  That's the nicest compliment you could give me because Lord knows
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  I have been doing my best to try and figure the fuck out.
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  Sound, but thank you for having me.
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  Swear on that car show. Sorry, where was that 45
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  seconds? Sorry, sorry, sorry kids.
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  Well, it's been a fun day. We just got done with some box
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  lunches I got in. The most exciting part?
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  What did you? Have what did you have go around
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  the table here. I had a Tuscan chicken sandwich
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  and some salt and vinegar chips with a delicious chocolate chip
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  cookie. And now I'm capping it off with
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  a truly delightful latte, which is actually giving me life.
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  And that's one of the one of my favorite parts about Media Day
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  is all of the treats like scattered throughout the
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  Convention Center. They know what they're doing.
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  You've got Sheffield Watch on too.
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  I do have a Sheffield. Watch on Do you have on?
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  Bright pink. I have the bright pink GT.
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  How many Sheffield do you have? I think I have 9 at this point,
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  9. Really.
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  I have quite a collection and I am dedicated to the brand and I
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  love them so much. Yeah, but I think we would be
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  remiss if we didn't mention our impromptu picnic lunch in the
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  back of a beautiful Dodge cargo van.
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  You know, thank you to Stelantis and Jeep for the wonderful box
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  lunches. But yeah, we managed to find a
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  little picnic spot and had our own little tailgate.
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  But but nothing good happens in the back of a white van, right?
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  I felt like we're up to something nefarious, you know,
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  for an offload, you know, Chinese speakers or something,
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  you know? For the record, all the doors
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  were open so that I want to make sure that no one thinks that
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  that you know. Anything untoward is.
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  Happening or we were planning anything other than just a meal.
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  Right, a jewel. That's right, those are in.
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  Again, I don't know if you've noticed.
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  Again, for the note, the van was white with 0 windows.
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  Speaking of that jewel heist, our buddy RJ Munt, who works for
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  Mercedes Trucks in Japan, He, he was very proud.
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  He, he saw the footage, he said That's one of our trucks that
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  they used and apparently the company that made the lift or
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  never actually put it in an ad immediately after like talk
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  about like viral marketing and all that.
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  So the company made the boom or whatever that.
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  Was Oh my God, yes. I heard that they had
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  capitalized on the robbery of the Louvre and they were like,
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  well, we're here now. Like we may as well capitalize
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  on it. Yeah, Did they actually do the
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  heist? And then it was just all of
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  giant ruse. And so, yeah, they, they, they,
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  this could all just be viral marketing.
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  Can you imagine that marketing meeting?
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  They're like, all right, just bear with me.
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  Let me go through the whole plan before you share an opinion like
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  so. The Louvre, they were all.
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  The black, the blue and white blueprints, you know, very much
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  like an 80s. Movie You know how we always
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  talk about how our booms are super agile and quick?
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  We've thought of a very unique way to demonstrate that and get
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  the world's attention. So you guys wanted to hear
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  something funny yesterday on my way in.
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  So date of recording, today's the 20th.
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  Yesterday would have been the 19th.
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  So I'm driving in to LA from Phoenix.
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  And so shout out to Zach Clapman of the Smokey Tire.
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  He went ahead and released his second episode of this driver's
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  test and whatnot. And so one of the questions that
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  he's asking had to do with the first car that had been debuted
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  at the Louvre. Mind you, this was hours prior
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  to the Louvre being robbed that same day.
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  And he had no idea. And it was hilarious.
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  And I was like, that's perfect. Additionally, that week, I can't
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  stress enough how much things happen in the world.
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  That to me came straight out of a freaking movie.
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  Like unbelievable. It was the Louvre being robbed
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  and then the FBI getting the NBA players on the gambling thing
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  and stuff like that. I was like, that was pretty same
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  week. I was like, yo, movie scripts
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  are going to be on fire these next two weeks, Tommy.
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  Like it's going to be insane, they say.
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  They take inspiration from real events, right?
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  Hey, there you go. I was like George Clooney.
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  Are you listening for Ocean's 14 bro?
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  Ocean's 17 1/2. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Whenever we get together, I feel like we're like scheming, right?
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  It's like summer camp. Whenever we get together, I feel
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  like we're up to, you know, especially when the back of a
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  white van, you know? I was not part of that white
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  van. I'd want to be made that very
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  clear. But to be fair, Ryan was calling
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  him and saying, hey, we're over bringing the back of the white
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  van. He did.
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  Could. Be a little kid.
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  I have a child. I have candy.
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  That's we just write free candy on the side like that.
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  Yeah, that's. This is the last time we'll be
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  coming to the Elliotto Show. After this, it's the airwaves.
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  Yeah, well, at least at least. And Lindsay got a chance to go
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  and enjoy salt and vinegar chips, so that's all.
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  That's right. So if you hear crunching, yeah.
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  That's what matters. The cookies, they always have
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  good cookies show Last year they had these.
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  We've been talking to them ever since these frosted cookies that
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  had the LA Auto Show in the frosting.
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  The logo didn't have this this year, but they have some
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  fantastic lemon cookies. But in any case, we all got in
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  late last night except for Mr. La Sassa, who lives lives here.
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  Jorge's in from Phoenix. I'm in from Denver and Lindsay
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  came down from Seattle and Jorge was kind enough to pick me up in
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  the legend that is the 2017 Kia Sorento from LAX.
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  We're sharing a room at the Fairfield Inn.
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  And where are we? Rosemead, LA.
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  And Rosemead, East LA, Yeah. California.
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  I looked on the map and it was like East LA.
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  Yeah. So we got there.
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  I was pleasantly surprised. It was very nice.
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  Say Ryan. Ryan looked at me.
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  He's like, well, well chosen, Sir.
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  And I'm like, thank you because I was really freaking the hell
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  out for about two seconds. The shower as the most powerful
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  flow of any like quite the opposite of most hotels.
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  You go and he can't get any right.
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  So pretty hair. This thing was like a Firehouse.
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  I thought I blew up my eardrum. When I turned it, it was a full
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  on powerful. Yeah.
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  It's like one of those, so you know that.
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  Showers. Yeah, as I can say, do you know
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  when you're like in a hot tub and you all of a sudden get like
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  at the power like they. Jets.
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  Jets. It was like that, like a.
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  Drain couldn't keep up. Honestly, it really couldn't.
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  And like it was it. Was blogged with someone else's
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  hair, but that. Was the same.
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  Detail. Yeah, Yeah, minor detail.
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  Like my hair was like so pressed down South fast and I was like,
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  wow, now I know what it feels like to go ahead and be someone
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  who doesn't have crazy curly hair like I do.
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  We. Should say this is the first
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  time I've actually met Horton in person.
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  Known the guy for like 3 years. He does have a tremendous head
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  of curly locks. Thank you.
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  It's tremendous. I.
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  For 1:00 AM. Envious, but we should
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  backtrack. So we got in last night and we
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  went, met her, met Dan from the shows, who's back at the museum
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  now. But we got a quick tour at the
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  Petersons. Oh, it's been the new acid
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  exhibit is fire. It is, it really is.
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  It's fantastic and yeah, posted a reel and.
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  You take you down on the vault. No, we never have time.
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  We didn't have enough time. We had to go in there,
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  literally. We'll get into that.
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  Go ahead. Yeah, I was always, I'm always
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  disappointed when I walk in there and the Myers Makes Cafe
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  is closed. That's always a highlight.
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  But I know. Because the food is
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  legitimately. Yeah, yeah, it actually is.
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  But it was better than the Aston Martin exhibit, the Laforza
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  parked out in front. Do you all know what a Laforza?
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  Is I don't. Brian was geeking.
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  So when? You're a kid like all of us.
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  We did this. We maybe not you because you're,
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  you're young. But the three of us, I know,
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  Lindsay, you're also young. Well, actually I'll do this.
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  One but. I'm just, I'm just pulling the
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  wool over everyone's eyes. Yeah, we used to pour over these
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  magazines, right, like Rob Report, DuPont Registry or
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  whatever, and they would always have these cars that like the G
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  Wagon before they imported them to the States, right?
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  They would came to this place in New Mexico called Europa, right?
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  But another sort of just weird vehicle of the time was this
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  thing called La Forza, which I think is built on an Aveco
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  truck, Jassy. But then it's what's a big
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  thing. It's like a Tahoe size vehicle,
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  but it's, you know, it's Italian, so it's got like the
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  Maserati tufted leather, the dash clock, that kind of thing.
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  And I don't know if I've ever seen one in the flesh in my
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  life. And sure enough, there's one
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  parked in front of the museum just like the day it it rolled
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  off the factory. Oh wow, floor just.
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  Do you know what drives that? It's a 5 liter Ford.
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  That's really it's a, it's a charge version even, didn't
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  they? So they couldn't obviously
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  develop their own powertrains. And this is, you know, mid late
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  80s. So it was just your
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  run-of-the-mill Ford GT5 leader. It may have had the old school
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  Cobra GT manifold on it, but it's literally like people that
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  have owned them, at least a couple of people I've known in
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  LA that either worked on them or, or, you know, dealt with
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  them and you're like, they'll run forever because it's pretty
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  much a Ford. And a lot of the, even the
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  suspension pieces, you know, there's switch gear.
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  It's it's old 90s Ford stuff. The rest of it's going to fall
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  apart because it's made in Italy and, and, and, and it's going to
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  rust and it's going to do all the other things, you know, the
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  windshields are impossible to get, etcetera, etcetera.
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  But the drivetrain you could go from here to the moon on.
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  I was more excited to see that than, you know, like the.
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  All the stuff in the museum. Yeah, the 177 or or whatever.
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  But the other interesting thing about that is it looks like a
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  lot of Neva, but that someone sort of like left like the soap
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  too long, like a swollen. It's just it's, it's an odd
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  thing. But I just hadn't thought about
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  that. Cold and yeah, you can't do.
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  Anything like? A little bit a little too much
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  salt the night before. I'd be curious where they found
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  that one because they're getting hard because again, they rust,
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  they rust out. They were hard to find.
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  You see them occasionally around LA and they're usually in, you
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  know, general disrepair, not just because they just they
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  everything rust. You can't get seals.
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  You can't, you know, but that one was BMW had A at a design
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  event at the, at the Peterson last week and, and I saw it
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  there, you know, saw the Lefours and I'm like, seems like really,
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  really well maintained. Like who, who took care of this?
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  Because it's not part of the museum's permanent collection, I
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  don't believe. How many they made originally?
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  Like obviously not many. I mean, there is Google, but
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  we're not going to use it or give them a shout.
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  Out the day. I mean, we're not going to use
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  the TCS research department, right?
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  Is that is that over at the museum right here?
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  At the we gave them the day off because we were going to.
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  Be at the show totally sense. Well, it was, it was pretty
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  great to to see. And then we headed over to the
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  Alfa Romeo event. Yes.
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  Is that where you're going to go, Mike?
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  No, no, real cool guy. I just want to say we are
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  missing the point of like, that's why you go to museums,
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  right? Honestly, like you get to see
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  the thing you never thought you'd see in in whether it's the
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  unobtainable, like of, you know, they have a McLaren F1 there and
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  they do have the, the, the what, what is the new Gordon Murray?
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  Oh, the S1? Oh yeah.
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  Mcmurtry. No the.
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  SLR the Mercedes-Benz. SLR McLaren.
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  No, no the. You know about the Gordon
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  Murray, the newer S1 that looks the basically the 2020 the the
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  current version of what looks like in the Mercleron F1 right
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  thing that. That doesn't have a drivetrain
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  and you stick the steering wheel in the in the back end to steer
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  it around, which is lovely. That's you haven't seen that No,
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  so it doesn't the drivet train doesn't work.
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  So what they do is there's a there's a small little keyhole
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  in the in the little back panel and so you put it in there and
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  it'll help you maneuver the car for display purposes so you can
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  like drive from the back. But where I'm going with this
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  looks. Like a cat's ass at the right
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  angle. But going to a museum, any
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  museum or cars, whatever, you get a chance to see that thing
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  that's either inspiring or you've never seen before or you
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  know, is just kind of an oddball.
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  You're right. And that's what's beautiful
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  about that place in it was. Again, I'm Needless to say
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  there's probably never going to be able to Forza retrospective
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  in the way that there was. The what, Martin?
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  I think that could be our first event.
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  Yeah. I think we need a plan like.
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  Sponsored by that car. Show yeah the the unobtanium
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  event. Yeah, that's a great idea.
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  That's how Ryan gets him to be in there.
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  That's a. Theme.
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  That's a theme for a collection like we always talk about.
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  Like, what would your theme be? Yeah, jokes like the unexpected
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  manual collection or like we saw the white collection and then I
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  think Haggerty just auctioned. Autoblog, this is for you guys.
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  Whenever you decide to go ahead and make Ryan Barkey your
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  respective editor in chief, right you just get ready for a
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  Laforza collection coming out of straight straight out of Denver,
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  Co. Just 24/7.
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  So if you if you build that collection on a Laforza then
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  like what comes after? Oh, you're you're that's easy.
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  You're looking at a macur XKR 1 or whatever that was 4 TI 4 TI
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  XK which was really just a sterling back when the remember.
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  Sterling 827. Yep. 4 Door Sterling's you you.
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  I mean yes you can do an LMMO too because you don't see that
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  many just because those are like Ken's teeth.
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  Yeah, the jewel of the collection.
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  You know you're you can do AG. One at the Peterson.
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  You can do AG500 cab shout out to Doug Romero.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've always had a thing for
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  this. And and Kendall Jenner.
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  An ESO grifo one of. Those oh, yeah, yeah.
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  Too many of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Oh, you know what? Shout out to the Isuzu trooper.
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  Or the you know, remember the via cross?
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  That's the Isuzu via Cross, which you still can find.
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  But the the the trick will be they cannot come in unless it's
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  the Iron Man edition. So what else goes in this Museum
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  of misfit cars? I think Michael had a good idea.
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  Yeah, yeah, you have the Nissan Murano cross something.
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  Oh, the that that cabriole. Gabriel, that cabriole, you got
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  to have a Yugo, which I did when I was in Boulder working at a
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  tire store. That was our parts runner.
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  Yeah. Nice.
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  Bulletproof. Really.
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  I kid you not. What I've heard.
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  Like, the whole car's falling apart.
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  The doors, cardboard doors. Yeah, the doors are going to
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  fall apart. The hood's going to flap up.
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  But like, we drove the heck out of that car, abused it.
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  Yeah, like the Hugo actually held up and they're coming back.
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  Nice, Oh. Really.
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  Oh yeah? Well, I yeah, I've.
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  Here in LA right now. But I there was and it wasn't.
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  This is pre AI generated craziness.
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  But yeah. No, I've heard that they're
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  really good. And the trouble is you can't
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  find parts. It's not the cars themselves
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  necessarily. It's maintaining them.
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  They mean they rust out like Swiss cheese but but they run.
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  Huh. Yeah, Yeah.
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  Well, I think that's a great idea.
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  Peterson Museum. I wish we knew someone there who
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  could maybe make that. We'll have to work on that,
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  yeah. Yeah, well, we got, we mentioned
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  the Alfa Romeo gathering last night, which was a lot of fun.
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  So that was with our friends Haggerty Garage and Social in up
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  in Van Nuys and yeah, 8C. Speaking of cars, you never see
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  the Alpha 8C, was he? Like that car, I feel like I I
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  want to be careful how I know. It's built on a 360, right?
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  A Ferrari 360 I think it is. Is it because it's from?
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  Anybody. Oh, no.
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  So what would that be? What what does that mean about
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  that? It's built on a.
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  Can the average person who's really not paying attention as
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  it's going down the road tell the difference between AN8C and
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  A4C? Yes.
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  A. 100% it's about twice the size.
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  No, no. But that's my point though, if
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  you don't know anything, they kind of look like similar.
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  I mean, it's a beautiful. I just.
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  Well, that's a piece. So I'm glad that you mentioned
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  that because I know I went to their party and now I'm going to
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  go ahead and shit on it. I've never thought that the AC
• 16:32
  is that good looking of a car. I think it's kind of a ring
• 16:34
  personally. That's just me.
• 16:35
  I. Love it.
• 16:36
  I'm a sucker for those alpha wheels.
• 16:38
  This with this, you know the the circular cutouts, you know the.
• 16:41
  Phone dial type the. Phone dial Yeah.
• 16:43
  Yeah, for those of us of a certain age who remember the
• 16:45
  rotoring phones, yeah. I I dig that thing.
• 16:49
  Ostensibly it was, I think to release a car that was released
• 16:52
  two years ago, but the 33 Strandale, which I think is
• 16:56
  built on another car, I think the Maserati MC 12.
• 16:59
  But hell of a thing to look at. It was gorgeous, Gorgeous
• 17:02
  because a lot of the people were there brought their own alphas,
• 17:06
  you know, it was just, it was fun.
• 17:07
  It's a nice space and ran into some friends, friends of the
• 17:09
  show. It was a good time.
• 17:11
  That's always fun and it's always nice.
• 17:13
  I mean we were talking earlier about how much we love the
• 17:15
  Julia's and like good. Definitely would both add.
• 17:18
  We would each add 1 to our garages like should the
• 17:21
  opportunity present itself. I think so.
• 17:23
  I think that, you know, that's a car that they just so this
• 17:26
  course they don't make anymore, but they did.
• 17:28
  Right, right. Well, like I always go back to,
• 17:30
  I had like I knew at least 2 automotive journalists in LA
• 17:33
  that had them as their primary cars.
• 17:35
  And I always say, like, that's such a metric where they get to
• 17:38
  drive. Yeah, so many cars all the time.
• 17:41
  So if it's a car they're willing to commit to for their lives,
• 17:44
  you know, and their daily lives, yeah, that says a lot about the
• 17:47
  car. Yeah, I think so.
• 17:48
  I mean, I've heard the same thing about GT Fours.
• 17:50
  Michael, when are you going to get a GT4?
• 17:52
  Jorge, What's? Hard pass.
• 17:54
  Hard pass on the GT. 4 Somebody needs to go ahead and sponsor
• 17:56
  the shit out of tarmac. Let me tell you that right now.
• 17:59
  One of the things people have talked about those, especially
• 18:01
  post COVID, was, you know, the death of the auto show, right?
• 18:04
  Yeah, the other shows going away.
• 18:05
  And with that, you saw the loss of the events, external events.
• 18:09
  It's nice this year, especially to see the events that are going
• 18:12
  on. Scouts here, you know, Slate is
• 18:17
  doing something like not only are they showing up, but they're
• 18:20
  also doing the external stuff, which costs money, which which
• 18:23
  brings people in. And so maybe there's a hope that
• 18:25
  the auto show isn't dead for, for not just us and having, you
• 18:29
  know, our dreams met, but for the young people coming in,
• 18:32
  They're going to do family time here this weekend and for the,
• 18:35
  you know, over Thanksgiving, whatever.
• 18:36
  So you know what as old as new again and hopefully auto shows
• 18:40
  are are not one of those things that go the way the dodo.
• 18:42
  Yeah, well, not to well, not to go ahead and do a free plug for
• 18:44
  you guys, but I'm guesting on your podcast, so I'm happy to do
• 18:47
  it for you. But you guys had a fantastic
• 18:49
  interview a few weeks ago with Andy.
• 18:51
  I'm forgetting. Steinhauser yeah, yes, of the
• 18:53
  auto show of. The LA Auto Show.
• 18:55
  And obviously, you know, he spoke so highly of wanting to go
• 18:58
  ahead and bring that prestige back.
• 19:00
  And it's funny, I didn't know what exactly to go ahead and
• 19:03
  expect when I came in this morning and when I had an idea.
• 19:05
  This is your first show. Yeah, it's supposed to be here
• 19:08
  last year with you guys, right? Well, we already know the story
• 19:10
  behind that. My point being is, you know,
• 19:12
  Ryan and I got a chance to go ahead and come yesterday as they
• 19:16
  were setting up because we went to go ahead and shout out to my
• 19:18
  friend Kali Moldovan, who you got a chance to meet yesterday.
• 19:20
  And she's working with Pure PPF here in the LAOC area.
• 19:24
  So I have a stand downstairs, which we're hopefully going to
• 19:26
  get a check chance to go check out later.
• 19:28
  And she brought a couple of the cars and Ryan and I are looking
• 19:30
  around in the setup like it was way different than than was up
• 19:35
  here where we are with, you know, the, the the manufacturer.
• 19:38
  The underground. The underground and the
• 19:40
  underground was sick as hell, man.
• 19:42
  Like we saw the low riders and stuff like that.
• 19:44
  That was so cool that we saw a Ferrari F8 in this ridiculous
• 19:47
  like spec yellow with the blue roof, with the blue seats, with
• 19:51
  the blue wheels. It was that full on University
• 19:55
  of Michigan spec, but that's what that was.
• 19:57
  Well now I can't then see that, but it.
• 19:59
  Was it really much was? And so like, I didn't when I
• 20:01
  came in this morning and I looked in, we went through the
• 20:04
  Convention Center and whatnot and took us 19 hours to find
• 20:08
  Lindsay, Dan and Michael. But it was really, really cool
• 20:13
  to go ahead and walk in and be like, oh man, yeah, this layout
• 20:16
  is kind of rad because it's not like anything else that you go
• 20:19
  to. And again, maybe it's because
• 20:21
  it's media day, but I do find the vibe.
• 20:23
  Lindsay, you and I were talking about this earlier when we
• 20:25
  coming over here and what not. I got this vibe of like.
• 20:28
  Yeah, it's business. Yeah, it's LA, but there's a
• 20:30
  vibrancy to it and I really, really like that.
• 20:33
  Yeah, yeah, it's nice. I mean, it's always nice to come
• 20:36
  to media day because there are like there are the nice little
• 20:39
  touches with the coffee stands and the refreshments and all
• 20:42
  that stuff. And you have a good
• 20:45
  concentration of the automotive media both from LA but also
• 20:48
  people travel like yourself and and.
• 20:51
  Internationally, yeah. Yeah.
• 20:52
  And it's, you know, and it's there.
• 20:54
  There's an excitement, even if auto shows are on, like they've
• 20:58
  been on a downswing in terms of like, manufacturers coming to
• 21:00
  them, there are still reveals. Like we got to see the Kia
• 21:03
  Telluride reveal today, the new one, you know?
• 21:06
  And so there's still excitement. And, you know, and it's, I
• 21:10
  remember coming to the auto show as a child with my grandfather.
• 21:13
  And then, you know, when I was in college, that was a thing to
• 21:15
  do with my friends. And it's still, it's one of the
• 21:18
  great ways to get up close to these cars.
• 21:21
  And that's, you know, for car people.
• 21:23
  That's Mecca. Yeah.
• 21:26
  I think it seems very vibrant. Well, but LA specifically, I
• 21:29
  don't know where it started, but they scheduled this around
• 21:32
  Thanksgiving for families and for for many, many years.
• 21:36
  I mean, I don't know for since the beginning, I don't I can't
• 21:38
  speak to that, but it's always been something that some
• 21:41
  families do pre Thanksgiving, post Thanksgiving as as you
• 21:44
  know, as a. It's a family tradition like
• 21:46
  Thanksgiving weekend. That's one of the things you do
• 21:48
  because it's a long weekend and it's fun.
• 21:49
  And and I, you know, at least in the past when people would come
• 21:53
  when they were shopping for a car and most of the
• 21:56
  manufacturers were here, it was a low stress way to check the
• 22:01
  cars out with your whole family. And like, especially if you have
• 22:03
  kids like that can be really stressful to go to a dealer lot.
• 22:05
  You feel kind of pressed and this was a way to explore and
• 22:09
  they wanted you to get up close and climb all over the cars and
• 22:12
  check them out. And you can still do that.
• 22:14
  It's just not as many manufacturers right now.
• 22:16
  But like you said, Michael, I think that may be maybe that's
• 22:19
  going to keep growing hopefully there.
• 22:21
  Are only a handful of emissions right that you know, I saw but.
• 22:26
  I think the list is bigger this year, yeah, I think for Ford.
• 22:30
  Yeah, OK. We just haven't and I heard that
• 22:32
  their I heard their booth is fantastic, so we need to go
• 22:35
  check that out after. That we'll go check that out.
• 22:37
  Is there anything in particular that impressed you guys?
• 22:39
  Like really, because you obviously you just mentioned
• 22:41
  Kia, I feel like the Hyundai Genesis area was actually they
• 22:45
  had some great stuff over there. Yeah, they had the is the magma
• 22:48
  that weren't. Yeah, yeah, the new magma.
• 22:50
  The the reveal today. I mean, that's a fantastic name.
• 22:53
  Can we just like? Has been used before by.
• 22:56
  Like I know. Sting or some magma.
• 22:58
  The Mustang Magma Edition. I.
• 23:02
  Know and then Hyundai had this like cool, like off and you
• 23:05
  know, I think Ryan, you said that there was like a really big
• 23:08
  over landing presence earlier this morning and whatnot, but
• 23:10
  which is cool because I also feel like that's just the vibe
• 23:13
  of the last couple years. Everybody's doing over landing
• 23:15
  stuff. But Hyundai had this right next
• 23:18
  to the ionic 6. They had this big off roading
• 23:21
  concept, which now I'm blanking on the name, but it was really
• 23:25
  cool. And I'm like Hyundai, if you
• 23:27
  guys build this, like God bless you because you guys are really
• 23:32
  taking it to a different level. And it's I told you this the
• 23:35
  other day, actually this morning when we were coming in tonight.
• 23:37
  And and I'm not just saying this because I own IKEA.
• 23:40
  I'm not and. Trying to wait, you do.
• 23:42
  What? No, actually.
• 23:43
  And it was you. You and I were having this
• 23:45
  conversation early this morning, Michael.
• 23:46
  It's his Tiguan. Yeah, that's.
• 23:50
  No, but in all sincerity, for anybody who thinks to
• 23:54
  themselves, Hyundai and Kia is one of those brands that is
• 23:59
  still you drive that you, you, you don't know what you're
• 24:02
  talking about anymore. Because I think that they're
• 24:04
  better than half of the manufacturers out in the world
• 24:07
  right now. And I'm not just saying that
• 24:09
  because I actually happen to own one of the ones that is older.
• 24:12
  So I'm talking about the new ones like we.
• 24:14
  Yeah. We drove.
• 24:14
  You weren't there, but we drove the is it the what is it the
• 24:17
  six? The.
• 24:18
  Yeah, the EV6. The GT6 EV, Yeah, the could.
• 24:22
  Used a little more for GT, right?
• 24:24
  But it was a great car. It drove as well as any of the
• 24:27
  other EVs really. Nice.
• 24:28
  Yeah. So we got to Michael and Ryan
• 24:30
  and I got to drive that this morning and it was.
• 24:35
  It caught my eye because the color is very similar to
• 24:37
  maritime blue, the Porsche color, which is one of my
• 24:40
  favorite colors. So I was already, you know,
• 24:42
  looking at it favorably before we got in.
• 24:44
  Yeah. And yeah, the interior was a
• 24:47
  really cool, like kind of cream and black like, which was very
• 24:51
  striking. And it had, you know, nice
• 24:53
  interior lighting. I thought the layout was very
• 24:54
  intuitive in the interior. It was easy to adjust all the
• 24:57
  things that you need to adjust before you take off, obviously.
• 25:00
  And I thought I had good pick up for what it's designed to do.
• 25:03
  And Michael and I were remarking on how much cargo space there
• 25:06
  actually was. So it would be cargo space.
• 25:08
  Yeah, actually functional cargo space.
• 25:10
  And I know that our vehicle host said he'd done some long road
• 25:13
  trips and it had been what? Was his name shout out?
• 25:15
  To him. John.
• 25:15
  John. Yeah, I.
• 25:16
  Think he was the best vehicle host we've had?
• 25:17
  Remember. John John from Maine when?
• 25:20
  Was the last time you met someone from Maine?
• 25:22
  Where is Maine again? Is that?
• 25:24
  Is that a Canadian province? Might as well be as maritime.
• 25:27
  Provinces. North America.
• 25:31
  No. Well.
• 25:31
  Jorge brings up a really good point, though.
• 25:32
  I think the thing that that is missing in the world by and
• 25:36
  large and not trying to get political or anything, is
• 25:38
  there's a lot of color here. Like Lindsay pointed out, this
• 25:42
  blue on this, on this Kia was a very attractive blue.
• 25:45
  But when you go out into the world, you don't see those cars
• 25:47
  right. They have the the Mustang GTD
• 25:51
  here, of course, and it's it's stunning.
• 25:53
  But in the corner they have a regular style.
• 25:57
  It's probably AV6 Mustang in such a beautiful like teal and I
• 26:01
  and I photographed it, you know, like on my phone and I have a a
• 26:04
  Samsung 24. So it's not the latest and
• 26:06
  greatest, but you think you get these great images through the
• 26:08
  phone. And honestly, it doesn't
• 26:11
  photograph as well as it looks in person.
• 26:13
  It doesn't. It doesn't do.
• 26:13
  It doesn't. Yeah.
• 26:14
  And what's nice about what you're seeing or at your point
• 26:17
  about what's going on is what impressed me personally is
• 26:19
  you're getting you're seeing color in cars again.
• 26:22
  They're not just map. They're not fancy map.
• 26:23
  Yeah. Paint jobs.
• 26:24
  They're not all. The blue on the ionic 6 N was
• 26:28
  so. Great.
• 26:28
  Gangster. Setup those cars look so.
• 26:31
  Good. It begs the question.
• 26:32
  And obviously they're, you know, yes, you want something to pop
• 26:34
  because you're, you know, an auto.
• 26:36
  Yeah. But.
• 26:37
  Can't why are why are they not showing people that more?
• 26:41
  I mean, you brought up the orange like get those into the
• 26:43
  hands of the customer. Yeah, so they get.
• 26:44
  Lost in a parking garage between the silver car, the black car
• 26:47
  and the white car at every, every mall and every, you know,
• 26:50
  shopping, you know, at every. Disneyland parking lot 100%.
• 26:53
  Yeah. Well, there was, there was a
• 26:56
  like it's been reported on in the last couple years like the
• 26:59
  decline in cars that are a color not white, silver and black
• 27:04
  because the cost of the pigment went up so much that the
• 27:07
  manufacturers just went like volume wise, we can't do it.
• 27:11
  And I think that's also why you've seen the rise in like
• 27:14
  charging for a color, the markup on that.
• 27:17
  But you're right. I mean, when you look back at
• 27:19
  like the 50s and 60s, it was these super cool, like teal and
• 27:23
  wire. You had these amazing, you know,
• 27:24
  like look at. Saying the two tones again to
• 27:26
  the combinations which. Is interesting.
• 27:28
  Well, I mean the ID buzz is an exception, but unfortunately
• 27:31
  they haven't sold as well. But they are an example of color
• 27:35
  in the modern marketplace at. Least in LA they're selling so
• 27:38
  poorly. I don't know if it's still a
• 27:40
  deal, but if you go and buy an ID Buzz they actually have an
• 27:44
  allotment. A dealer allowed allotment for
• 27:46
  you to wrap it. They'll wrap it for.
• 27:49
  You. Oh, that's right.
• 27:49
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because.
• 27:50
  Because you know, what's showing up are whites and blacks and
• 27:54
  silvers and people are like, I don't really love it enough to
• 27:56
  buy it. And they they're offering at
• 27:58
  least at least there was. I don't know if it's still the
• 28:00
  case. They're offering you money.
• 28:02
  You didn't get to take the money, but they're like, we'll
• 28:04
  wrap it in any color you want, just the dealership.
• 28:05
  I just have to say this. I find it very convenient that
• 28:08
  you and Lindsay are giving Troy more ammunition than he already
• 28:12
  needs. Hi, Tori.
• 28:13
  What's up, brother? That's for my guy.
• 28:16
  Yeah, sweet. That's that's a sweet
• 28:18
  motherfucker. Not just exterior the.
• 28:20
  Sweetest. I love that guy.
• 28:22
  I'm not. I do too.
• 28:23
  I know, I'm sure you do you. Call him Troy.
• 28:27
  Yes, it's purpose. OK, when we were on, he said
• 28:30
  something about Troy and. Then later I could grab my like,
• 28:33
  was this other man right? I'm like, do you think Tory's
• 28:36
  gonna get upset when he leaves about Troy?
• 28:38
  Oh, I hope he, I hope he knows that I do it out of love.
• 28:40
  Now it's not just the exterior colors too.
• 28:43
  There's some really great colors and interiors.
• 28:45
  Somehow I guess we're starting to talk about the trends of the
• 28:47
  show. So that's what you call this
• 28:48
  section like what the things we're seeing?
• 28:50
  Either the trends are more importantly what what should be
• 28:52
  pushed out more to the pub. Like we'd like to see that.
• 28:55
  Well, because I don't think people know about it, right?
• 28:57
  You know, you walk on a lot and all you see is 3 colors.
• 29:00
  And so if you need a car or you just want a car and, and, and
• 29:03
  that's what you buy. Whereas if if you had options, I
• 29:06
  think people would absorb more of these if they even knew about
• 29:09
  me. Sure, yeah.
• 29:10
  But that genesis, that blue. I know.
• 29:12
  What do you call that blue? Talk about the dark blue and the
• 29:14
  jeans. No, it's sort of like a dusty
• 29:17
  metallic well. We're on almost like powder.
• 29:21
  Yeah, I don't know what that one.
• 29:22
  Yeah, that's right. It's.
• 29:23
  Just like these. And then silence.
• 29:25
  Yeah. That's.
• 29:27
  Something blue. This picture something.
• 29:29
  Blue, nice blue, the very pleasant blue and like it's kind
• 29:32
  of. Blue ocean water, like I mean,
• 29:36
  really pretty. And I think Speaking of trends
• 29:38
  and color, actually we've seen a lot of blue interiors, which is
• 29:43
  something I remember, you know, as a child, like the the Navy
• 29:47
  velour interior that Cadillacs from the 80s had, which is just
• 29:51
  iconic, obviously. But I think we went through a
• 29:53
  long period of time where it was unusual to see a blue interior,
• 29:56
  and we've seen at least 4 on the show floor.
• 29:59
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. And the very shout out to
• 30:02
  Genesis. I think they're just killing it
• 30:03
  with some of their cars. Yeah, you mentioned the
• 30:06
  Hyundai's, the NSPEC cars, you know, look good.
• 30:09
  Even the Nissan Leafs, the the leaves or whatever.
• 30:12
  Whatever Michael was photographing where you made the
• 30:14
  comment of like, hey, they might be going broke, but they still
• 30:16
  know how to spec a car. I think Was it a Nissan or
• 30:19
  whatever that was? Oh, the fluorescent yellow one.
• 30:21
  Yeah, that was which was amazing, Yeah.
• 30:22
  Yeah. Writing so cheerful, yeah.
• 30:25
  It's the color and like. You know when you're running out
• 30:27
  of money, you have to be cheerful.
• 30:28
  But yes, no disrespect to Nissan, I love you.
• 30:32
  I don't know, I just think if people saw these cars out,
• 30:36
  listen, having worked at a dealer years ago and
• 30:39
  understanding you've got to plan ahead and you're planning for
• 30:41
  what people buy in your neck of the woods, etc, etc, etc.
• 30:44
  Yeah, there's a lot of reasons not to buy colors, but there was
• 30:47
  a time, a prime example is for a long time, Chevy, Chevy dealers.
• 30:51
  If you were high enough volume, Chevy dealer, Chevy would sell
• 30:54
  you cars and trucks in any array of color, like in a wide array
• 30:57
  of colors you want that you want so long as you bought so many of
• 31:00
  them might be a limited, you know, a minimum number of them
• 31:03
  and call it what what it is is like you.
• 31:05
  It's bespoke without having to be bespoke and you're not just
• 31:08
  offering. They could variety to people and
• 31:11
  make it easy for. People and it's just too easy to
• 31:13
  say people don't there's no uptake because they complete
• 31:15
  like manuals, right? Everybody's like there's not
• 31:17
  enough uptake on manuals to do manual transmissions anymore.
• 31:19
  The problem is, is that people either don't know that there's a
• 31:22
  manual option or they just use that as a reason.
• 31:25
  Lindsay, to your point about dollars and cents, you know,
• 31:29
  because it's just. They, well, it's chicken on the
• 31:31
  egg, chicken on the egg a little bit because obviously demand
• 31:34
  drives that too. But you're right.
• 31:35
  Like if you, if you get to the point where that's all the, all
• 31:38
  the people are offered is this, you know, 3 neutral non colors,
• 31:43
  then if you do that long enough, people start to forget.
• 31:46
  But to your point, there was a Chevy truck in the late 90s on
• 31:51
  the lot at the dealership near where I grew up and it was a
• 31:54
  single cab, step side short bed and it had the most spectacular.
• 32:00
  Actually, I think Ryan used a word that I like tremendous.
• 32:04
  It was the most tremendous paint job and I don't know the story.
• 32:07
  All I could guess was that it had been custom ordered, but now
• 32:09
  knowing that the dealers could bring them in, it was Forest
• 32:12
  Green and bubble gum pink. Oh, wow, with this amazing.
• 32:16
  I mean the stripes, it was the most.
• 32:17
  Intricate design or something? Yeah, I mean in the first time
• 32:21
  and it was prominently displayed on the lot and they had it for
• 32:24
  like a year sitting out there and.
• 32:26
  I bet they did. Right.
• 32:27
  I know amazing that there weren't people weren't clamoring
• 32:31
  for it. But again, like I think about it
• 32:33
  regularly. I mean, it was a tremendous pay
• 32:35
  job. Can I call out some hypocrisy
• 32:37
  real quick? And I'm I'm going to call out
• 32:39
  hypocrisy on my behalf, but I'm also going to call it out on the
• 32:42
  behavior on on the behalf of a multitude of enthusiasts.
• 32:46
  I think that there are a lot of people, myself included, who
• 32:51
  crap on manufacturers for choices they make.
• 32:55
  And then the only people that can go ahead and make said
• 32:57
  changes are to the extent the board of whatever manufacturer
• 33:02
  it would can be, but also the general public itself.
• 33:06
  I think that enthusiasts and just people who like cars to
• 33:10
  some extent need to do a better job of using their money better
• 33:16
  in terms of buying what they say that they supposedly like.
• 33:21
  You know what I'm saying? And the reason I say that?
• 33:23
  Includes colors it. Includes colors it also include
• 33:26
  models sure you know we had the pleasure of talking with Subaru
• 33:30
  north earlier today we're fans of the STI.
• 33:33
  You guys chose to go ahead and cut it out of the lineup Why?
• 33:37
  Because we thought that it sold really well, brings the IT
• 33:40
  brings up to the point it's like everybody who complained about
• 33:43
  the STI, myself included, being gone could have done something
• 33:46
  about it by maybe. Well, that's the thing, if they
• 33:48
  were selling enough of them, the car would still be around.
• 33:50
  You had a great point there too. There's, there's a math that
• 33:53
  we're not even Privy to and that's that for them to even be
• 33:56
  able to sell an STI, they have to sell say, 5 foresters or
• 34:01
  whatever, right? Carbon footprint needs to go,
• 34:03
  yes. So, you know, the things that we
• 34:04
  don't even think about, you know, Subaru had a great display
• 34:08
  as always. Project Midnight is here.
• 34:10
  Yeah, it's. Very excited about.
• 34:11
  That they had a yellow WRX down there, which I don't know if
• 34:14
  that's coming back or if that was just a one off whatever.
• 34:16
  That was great to see. Not sure why that ever went.
• 34:18
  Away I would hope WRX into the auto show then that means that
• 34:21
  there is a 20. I hope so A.
• 34:22
  Color that can be available for 20. 26 years.
• 34:25
  Well, but then you have. Yeah, I'm worried.
• 34:27
  You get a little worried sometimes because it seemed that
• 34:30
  they had the Yuzu edition. Isn't that AB on?
• 34:35
  AGR 86. It's a fruit.
• 34:37
  It's a fruit. It it it's stunning.
• 34:39
  It's it's going into production, it's like, but it's a final
• 34:41
  edition and it's it's called the Yuzu edition.
• 34:44
  It's it's really beautiful. It's really beautiful, kind of
• 34:46
  yellowy, whatever. But do you run into Jorge?
• 34:50
  To your point, do do we run into a situation where much like PTS
• 34:54
  on Porsche or whatever, they just get Adm to death and stuck
• 34:58
  in a corner? Like they don't the uptake isn't
• 35:01
  there to your point, because then it's either you have the
• 35:03
  money to buy that special thing because it's 1.
• 35:06
  You know, all of the charters and challengers and the last
• 35:08
  calls that they did and all the crazy colors and someone's got
• 35:11
  the one of one of one of one and they never want to drive it and
• 35:14
  it sits in the corner. It collects dust or they want
• 35:16
  $50,000 over sticker for it. And so just make them, just make
• 35:20
  them available. Make as very much so hurry this
• 35:23
  point. Make as many as you can sell,
• 35:24
  sell them all. Don't I don't need a plaque on
• 35:26
  the dash. Sell them all.
• 35:28
  Make them all the rainbows of the colors of the rainbow.
• 35:30
  And, and, and I think people would be, I think dealerships
• 35:34
  and manufacturers would be surprised that people will want
• 35:37
  their product if they make their product desirable and they make
• 35:40
  their product. Available that's.
• 35:42
  Oh my God, the pictures of the choir.
• 35:43
  The the biggest takeaways for me though, is I think manufacturers
• 35:46
  are taking chances. You know there were colors on
• 35:49
  forerunners, right? Also, when did a forerunner
• 35:52
  become a $72,000 proposition? It was bound to happen.
• 35:55
  I mean, my God, that's a TRD. I know you know, but I see them
• 35:58
  everywhere in Denver and, and in my head, I, we talked about this
• 36:01
  earlier, Michael, I think there's still $40,000 vehicles
• 36:03
  in my head, right? 40,000 vehicles for like 12.
• 36:06
  Years. Sure they I'm I'm sure not.
• 36:08
  I'm sure not five years. Ago.
• 36:11
  You're telling. Me 2025, but we're living in
• 36:13
  1995. Welcome to the night.
• 36:15
  Yeah. Hey guys, I'm 6.
• 36:16
  Years old again. Some credit for the color thing
• 36:18
  with the Bronco and some of the retro liveries and that thing
• 36:21
  too. Maybe they'll start with Porsche
• 36:23
  though. And to your point, paint a
• 36:24
  sample and all that. Does that mean Porsches are
• 36:25
  going to go back to black and silver now?
• 36:27
  I don't know, you know, because I think we.
• 36:29
  Have to worry about that. If you look at the enthusiast
• 36:31
  community, I mean look at the number of people that have a
• 36:32
  rainbow collection of their. Own it's true, you know, did you
• 36:35
  see that there was a chart I think I passed around to the
• 36:37
  team a few weeks back that showed the numbers of paint to
• 36:40
  sample cars for Porsche over the years, right?
• 36:43
  And how it's kind of it's cyclical, right?
• 36:46
  Like early on it was pretty popular and then it was not
• 36:49
  popular at all. And then now it's blown up
• 36:51
  bigger than ever. But it's, I don't know.
• 36:54
  I don't. Maybe it's reflection of the
• 36:56
  times we need a little sunshine in our lives.
• 36:58
  I don't know. But.
• 36:59
  I think it's like anything, you have trends and like when it's
• 37:02
  new, that's the new hot thing and then people kind of get over
• 37:05
  saturated with it and it kind of goes back the other way.
• 37:09
  And then once people get a breather from it, they're like,
• 37:12
  hey, wait, there's all these amazing colours, you know,
• 37:14
  Michael's point, like. I think Porsche is a hard one to
• 37:16
  talk about because you know, special wishes and all the stuff
• 37:18
  that the average Porsche person even back in the 80s and 90s
• 37:21
  didn't have access to or didn't know about.
• 37:23
  And then now when you see some of the prices for some of these
• 37:25
  colours, because when you look at what or A to your point where
• 37:30
  our enthusiasts are putting their money, especially in the
• 37:33
  secondary market, you know, when you have that immolate yellow
• 37:37
  BMW or the you know, though the Esteril blue, you know, whatever
• 37:42
  what those are the cars that will demand sometimes a
• 37:45
  multiple, but at least a 2030 forty 50% premium.
• 37:49
  If conditions the same, the mileage is the same, the people
• 37:52
  will spend up for color in the secondary market.
• 37:54
  So why why wouldn't, again, back to Jorge's key point, which I
• 37:58
  completely agree, put our money where our mouth is as far as if
• 38:01
  we want this to survive, if we want these things, it's your
• 38:03
  local restaurant, it's your local watering hole, It's
• 38:05
  whatever. If you don't go in there and
• 38:07
  spend your money, they're not going to be around.
• 38:08
  And then you can't come back and say, oh Jarn, I really love.
• 38:11
  Yeah. Dave Barnes, see all the.
• 38:13
  Yeah, you can't be shocked when they go out of business.
• 38:15
  Where the hell have you been the last 20?
• 38:16
  Years that's what all these restaurant owners say when
• 38:18
  they're interviewed on the news right as they're you know,
• 38:20
  closing up the shop last day you know but it's it's absolutely
• 38:23
  the same mentality you know other takeaways from the from
• 38:25
  the auto show what do you see in like trends like what's what are
• 38:30
  they pushing what's. Like, this is a brief mention,
• 38:34
  but there's a vintage Bronco across from the Kia stand, and
• 38:37
  it's in an amazing teal color, so that was really fun to see.
• 38:40
  Yeah. Lindsay talking about a Bronco?
• 38:43
  Who would have thought? One thing that was an amazing
• 38:48
  surprise, and I think a good chunk of our audience will be
• 38:50
  thrilled to hear this, was when we went to the Volkswagen
• 38:54
  display. Yeah.
• 38:55
  And the Volkswagen bus that survived?
• 38:57
  That's right. Fire.
• 38:58
  Yeah, it's. Actually here.
• 38:59
  Super sick. It has been restored by
• 39:01
  Volkswagen. We knew that was.
• 39:02
  Happening. Yeah, I think we were.
• 39:03
  Going to get to see it in person.
• 39:05
  And it's like, what a joyful, you know, reappearance.
• 39:08
  If you don't know, this is the iconic van that somehow stayed
• 39:12
  pretty nice as the world, you know, around it was engulfed.
• 39:15
  So I mean, either that was, you know, one hell of a.
• 39:19
  I think we've all seen that picture on social media because
• 39:22
  especially it didn't hurt that the bus is the tradition, like
• 39:26
  iconic vintage, you know, bright turquoise.
• 39:28
  With a white yes so. It stood out against the burned
• 39:31
  neighborhood even more. And then honest and then in.
• 39:34
  Southern California, and I mean, it's just was, it was a really
• 39:37
  sort of iconic. Yeah, so they have a giant copy
• 39:41
  of that picture blown up on the poster, like on the display
• 39:44
  behind the bus. And then the bus itself is here
• 39:46
  having been restored by Volkswagen.
• 39:48
  So that was really cool. That's obviously.
• 39:50
  Yeah, that's a, that's a something old and burned is new
• 39:54
  again. And we got to drive the Lucid
• 39:57
  Gravity, which so last year, one of the things that has stuck
• 40:01
  with me from last year's auto show was driving the Lucid Air.
• 40:03
  The sedan. Yeah.
• 40:05
  And that was a car that was one of the few cars I've gotten in
• 40:08
  and just, it was like instantly fell in love with it right at
• 40:11
  home. It was just so delightful to
• 40:12
  drive and it felt intuitive and very comfortable.
• 40:16
  And so this year we had the chance to drive the Gravity,
• 40:18
  which is, I would have called it a minivan, but they were calling
• 40:21
  it an SUV. Yeah, I can't call it a minivan.
• 40:23
  No, we can't. That has no gravity.
• 40:27
  Like OK. Two, we will be here.
• 40:30
  For the rest of the day. There were more laughs, but
• 40:32
  we're passing around 3 microphones with four people
• 40:35
  just for the record. Like I promise it was a good
• 40:37
  joke. Just.
• 40:37
  Trust me. Trust me, we're going to add it
• 40:40
  in a laugh track. I actually think we've been
• 40:42
  messing. That set that up on the recorder
• 40:44
  if I really wanted to, yeah. And it had massaging seats,
• 40:48
  which I don't remember the air having.
• 40:49
  Maybe they just weren't on. But they were delightful.
• 40:52
  Not as delightful as the shower over at the Mile Hotel, but
• 40:54
  actually, I got you. Was borderline violent if you
• 40:58
  want to be like I had to prepare him so he wouldn't, you know,
• 41:00
  injure anything, you know, like watch for that things aiming
• 41:03
  when you turn that, that flow on, you know, but I really like
• 41:07
  that car too. And and in a way that I thought
• 41:09
  it was Michael, you mentioned that it seemed a little home
• 41:12
  brew in places, but compared to one of those early cars that we
• 41:16
  had driven way back when, this thing seemed really finished it.
• 41:19
  I don't know. I really, I dig it.
• 41:20
  It it's it's yeah, it's a little bit of the handcrafted this, but
• 41:27
  like in a good. I mean.
• 41:28
  Yeah, I liked it. We.
• 41:29
  Got to drive two of them. We were trying to see the
• 41:31
  different train levels, but we ended up in 2 tourings.
• 41:35
  Yeah, they have a grand touring here, but that one was occupied.
• 41:39
  You know, I really liked they had the wood grain like they've
• 41:41
  had in other cars, and I really liked that most of the roof is
• 41:47
  glass like it. Yeah.
• 41:49
  It made it very expansive. Yeah.
• 41:51
  And you know, I I think the air accelerated more quickly, but
• 41:55
  that makes sense given the type of.
• 41:57
  Car, yeah. It's still lovely to drive and
• 42:00
  they have a bit of a ^2 off steering wheel which I hadn't
• 42:02
  experienced before and I really liked.
• 42:04
  It, I liked it too. I didn't mind it at all.
• 42:05
  It just added to that sort of airiness of the interior.
• 42:08
  Yeah. It felt like an elevated space
• 42:10
  to be in. I really like the interior
• 42:12
  design, kind of a Scandinavian, you know, sort of like in the
• 42:15
  vein of Tesla, but I think elevated again, just.
• 42:18
  Yeah, but better. Yeah.
• 42:19
  And the materials were nice. And it's just.
• 42:22
  I really. Yeah.
• 42:23
  Again, is a proposition to put my hard earned money on.
• 42:27
  I know, but well, I mean, if there was ever a time to lease a
• 42:30
  lucid, it's right now. The lease deals are ridiculous
• 42:34
  and the best way and it I think it's AI think it's a good car.
• 42:37
  They they they still have some growing pains that they're going
• 42:40
  through and whatnot. But again, again, hypocrisy and
• 42:44
  not not from us just in general, just you want a better car.
• 42:48
  That's not to take a shot at Tesla, but this is not a shot at
• 42:51
  them. I'm saying you want an electric
• 42:53
  vehicle that's not built by Tesla, and then there's other
• 42:57
  options out there and then you see them and then you still
• 43:01
  don't go for it. And it's like the proposition is
• 43:03
  right there. You can get a Lucid Air at like
• 43:05
  $600 a month with however much down and whatnot.
• 43:07
  I mean, really it's. A lot of car.
• 43:09
  It's a lot of car because that's big.
• 43:11
  I mean, what was MSRP for Air Sapphire when it first came out?
• 43:14
  It wasn't that. It wasn't like 100.
• 43:16
  It was over 200. It was over 2. 100 Yeah, yeah.
• 43:19
  I mean it was also 1000 horsepower or something too.
• 43:22
  You know what, honestly, it may have been 185.
• 43:24
  My point being is it was definitely over 150.
• 43:26
  And then for you to be able to go ahead and get it on a lease
• 43:28
  deal at like 600 or 600 and change or whatever, no, maybe 3
• 43:32
  grand. Down with half the horsepower or
• 43:34
  whatever, I mean, still. I've driven the service, the
• 43:36
  service vehicle that they had over at the Phoenix location and
• 43:39
  it had what is equivalent of 800 horsepower.
• 43:43
  It's one of it's the second most fastest accelerating vehicle
• 43:46
  I've ever sat my ass in. It's it's compelling, you know,
• 43:50
  but there's so much competition. You look at the scouts that were
• 43:52
  right next to it and and you know, the scout is that's a good
• 43:55
  looking thing in my eyes. I really like the the vintage
• 43:58
  vibes, yet it looks modern. Am I going to go in and get a
• 44:03
  loose it over the Scout, for example?
• 44:05
  I mean, we don't know because we don't know how much those are
• 44:07
  going to cost, right? We're going to find out.
• 44:10
  Yeah, yeah, but I don't know. And that's, and that's really,
• 44:13
  there's so many just excellent cars right now.
• 44:15
  Yeah, we were kind of splitting hairs, you know, we're kind of
• 44:17
  like we know what does it for you, You know, getting into that
• 44:20
  Kia, that EV6GT after Lucid was shocking because, well, it was a
• 44:25
  very competent car. The the the quality of the
• 44:28
  plastics in the interior bits were about 3 steps below what we
• 44:32
  had just experienced. A Lucid you know, so.
• 44:35
  Tracks like if you had had to guess ahead of time you would
• 44:38
  have said yeah, I'm expecting the Lucid to be sure.
• 44:41
  What's important to you? Yeah, 1, I think, you know, we
• 44:45
  were commenting like, I think it was a great way to drive like
• 44:50
  the order to drive them and to drive them right next to each
• 44:52
  other or one after the other because it LED us.
• 44:54
  It was a very direct comparison. Yeah, yeah.
• 44:56
  And. You know, like Michael and I
• 44:58
  were looking at the cargo space, having just looked at the cargo
• 45:00
  space and the gravity and like you said, like the headroom in
• 45:03
  the Kia was much tighter. The passenger envelope, well, I
• 45:07
  also feel like is the. EV6 as a total?
• 45:10
  Is it a more? Is it a just smaller car?
• 45:12
  Than it is. It is.
• 45:13
  It is too, yeah. Yeah, so it was like the gravity
• 45:15
  just shrunk. Yeah, kind of tight in the back,
• 45:17
  Yeah. But hey, what was that?
• 45:19
  Honda bicycle delivery, so it's called.
• 45:22
  The fast port. OK, it's kind of and I am.
• 45:27
  Because like we said, we've given our research assistant the
• 45:29
  day off, so I am filling in for them.
• 45:33
  It's kind of scripts like a what's the like, not a rickshaw,
• 45:36
  it's. A rickshaw with storage in the.
• 45:39
  Back, yeah. It's like double, like the cargo
• 45:41
  box is like double the height of a rickshaw, but and it looks
• 45:45
  like, you know, an ice. Cream.
• 45:46
  It's a narrow yeah. So it is a new business venture
• 45:50
  focused on the last mile delivery market.
• 45:53
  OK. Modular electric Quadra cycle
• 45:56
  called the E Quad OK and it's in the F fleet as a service fast
• 46:04
  model and it's providing not just the vehicle, but also a
• 46:07
  full ecosystem including swappable batteries, cargo
• 46:10
  boxes, maintenance and a software platform.
• 46:13
  But what we all kept remarking about because their their test
• 46:17
  drive area was right by where we passed with the Kia.
• 46:21
  Yeah. And what was so interesting is
• 46:24
  the the body position looked like kept catching our attention
• 46:28
  because you sit sort of vertically.
• 46:30
  Like a kimbo I think is the word we've used in the past, yes.
• 46:34
  And the people were definitely focused down and we're not sure
• 46:38
  if they were looking at their feet because of the pedal
• 46:40
  position or if there's a. Screen very awkward.
• 46:42
  But yeah, a lot of people, I think part of the issue is their
• 46:47
  test area is. Not congested.
• 46:51
  It's in competition with the turning radius of the fast.
• 46:53
  Well, would you want to be taking any vehicle, any pedaled
• 46:56
  vehicle in LA traffic downtown? So I think it's more of a safety
• 46:58
  issue. Because I think a lot of people
• 47:00
  were getting hung up trying to back.
• 47:01
  You could do a three-point turn on this bicycle rickshaw ice.
• 47:04
  Cream. Yeah.
• 47:05
  Spotty Hollow? Yeah, you get ice cream.
• 47:06
  Someone getting run over is not great PR, so we're combined to
• 47:10
  it. What's the point of the pedals
• 47:11
  though? Like what is what are those
• 47:13
  factors? Like if it's got a powertrain
• 47:15
  anyway? Like is this just I don't know
• 47:17
  is the delivery guy looking? For at that point you're
• 47:19
  probably looking at cost, right? Yeah, you're probably looking at
• 47:21
  it. It's not fully electric, so it's
• 47:23
  going to cost less. So it's basically, it's
• 47:24
  basically like a for people that don't want to Google it and you
• 47:28
  don't definitely need to. It's basically like an electric
• 47:31
  bike with a big, big cargo box on the back.
• 47:33
  It's this type of stuff that we were saying earlier Peter Parker
• 47:36
  would have been using to deliver pizzas in Spider Man 2.
• 47:39
  #Marble. Hashtag haven't seen that film.
• 47:42
  Hashtag I love Tobey Maguire by the way.
• 47:46
  Can I just comment on something really quickly?
• 47:48
  Shout out to Genesis. Wow, thank you Genesis.
• 47:52
  You're very kind. They just thanked me for going
• 47:53
  to their stand. Nice on Instagram.
• 47:55
  I was going to say this is veering into like if.
• 47:57
  You guys? Yeah, but do you get a car?
• 47:58
  I thought, hey, I thought, hey, I already knew what we were
• 48:00
  talking about in this episode. No like.
• 48:02
  We heard you like the such and such.
• 48:04
  May we? Offer.
• 48:05
  Yeah, By the way, can I just comment on Los Angeles traffic
• 48:07
  for just one minute, because it's abysmal.
• 48:10
  We sailed in. What are you talking about?
• 48:12
  I heard you guys had an LA miracle of.
• 48:14
  Five in the This morning it was. Hotel in Barstow here was like
• 48:17
  32 minutes. No, but we were trying to go
• 48:20
  ahead and get the Van Nuys last night and thank God DP is the
• 48:24
  absolute in absolute Gent. But the amount of stuff that you
• 48:27
  and I saw on the way to the Peterson and on the way over to
• 48:30
  Van Nuys yesterday. We even go through San
• 48:32
  Bernardino. Dude, it was, it was, it was
• 48:34
  atrocious. Just the the the driving of some
• 48:37
  individuals. In this city, it's.
• 48:39
  Is it it you? Wonder how is this the sent?
• 48:43
  How is this the? You out of towners?
• 48:45
  Yeah. This is simple.
• 48:47
  I mean, like, really? It's like people seeing
• 48:49
  electricity for the first time. No, I mean, I, I've come out
• 48:52
  here so many different times. I've driven in the city so many
• 48:54
  times. But you, it makes you wonder how
• 48:56
  in tarnations, this is the Mecca of car culture in the United
• 48:59
  States when people drive as abysmally as they do, in
• 49:02
  particular in downtown Los Angeles.
• 49:05
  Like it was ridiculous. Is this like a tell me you're
• 49:08
  not from LA without telling? Me.
• 49:09
  That's really what it is. It's the.
• 49:11
  Aim to deliver a very engaging. That's right, yeah.
• 49:14
  And you know, you just people just climb your toes.
• 49:18
  They cross intersections. And I'm like, that's you, Why
• 49:20
  are you here? It's just that said, I love Lai.
• 49:24
  Still do call me Randy Newman, but I I always like when I when
• 49:27
  I come here because Ryan does not live here.
• 49:31
  I like Denver a lot before I move there.
• 49:33
  No kidding. No, LA is great and it's always
• 49:36
  good to be here. And I don't know how long we've
• 49:38
  been recording. We're at.
• 49:39
  I think it's about time to head to our next.
• 49:42
  I think, yeah, we're about 50 minutes.
• 49:44
  If we include both recordings, let's close.
• 49:46
  This out with like what is the one?
• 49:47
  Car that each of you have seen that that will stick with you.
• 49:51
  Not by the way, it doesn't even be the fanciest, the most
• 49:53
  expensive whatever, but like what?
• 49:55
  Well, what's what's the one? What's the one where you would
• 49:56
  take home regardless of cost, regardless of access?
• 49:59
  I got 2. I got to.
• 50:01
  It's that. That Hyundai not to go ahead and
• 50:04
  to get up on here and stuff like that in you guys podcast, but
• 50:07
  that Hyundai concept off roader thing was actually you gotta go
• 50:09
  check that out. Please go check it out and.
• 50:12
  Based. On my prior appearance on that
• 50:14
  car show, the ZR1X is in the building and I want my two
• 50:20
  friends right over here as well as you, Michael, who you are now
• 50:22
  my friend as well. That's up for debate.
• 50:24
  The days like your friends and you, by the way, do.
• 50:28
  You think that's? The first time I've been
• 50:29
  excluded, does the day end and why?
• 50:32
  That's the Is that the title of the show?
• 50:34
  Oh, thank. You guys and.
• 50:36
  You and teams you in the corner but does the R1.
• 50:39
  X By the way, I'm not recording this with.
• 50:40
  Them I'm in the corner while. They're at the table.
• 50:42
  You're in a different room. I'm such.
• 50:45
  An asshole for that I'm. So sorry dude, such a Dick.
• 50:49
  I yeah, no, I offended you. You need to cry later.
• 50:52
  No. So I have my therapist for.
• 50:55
  No, but does The R1X is here and I think.
• 50:57
  That it would be. I mean, it's such a rad car.
• 51:01
  Yeah, the wing, the wings, not quite as tall as the three Rs,
• 51:04
  but it's as why it is pretty. It's freaking it takes.
• 51:07
  Up a lot of room. And the car, it's a really cool
• 51:10
  spec. It's like silver with the black
• 51:13
  wheels. Yeah, I mean, that car ran 649
• 51:16
  at the Nurburgring. Dude, that thing is a real real.
• 51:18
  That's a that is 30. Seconds faster I think than GT4
• 51:24
  for example 30 seconds. 30 seconds is a 30 seconds a long
• 51:28
  minute. That's my biggest question
• 51:31
  having to now seen one. In person, you look at that
• 51:34
  thing, it's gorgeous. You're 100% right, Jorge.
• 51:37
  And this is going to be kind of a weird tangent, the Dis.
• 51:41
  The the calipers. You know, they're carbon
• 51:43
  ceramics. The calipers are Alcons, they're
• 51:45
  not Brembos. Oh, interesting.
• 51:47
  So you look in this entire building.
• 51:48
  There's probably. 40% of these cars and Brembo Brembo, Brembo,
• 51:53
  Brembo Brembo everywhere you go the aftermarket, you know
• 51:56
  working with O ES yeah and you and they actually say Alcon on
• 51:58
  them and that that's interesting to me yeah at that level cause
• 52:01
  by the way you walk over to the 06 that's 40 feet away and
• 52:05
  everything else you buy is Brembo yeah why why why that's
• 52:08
  what that's the kind of like little Easter egg that I kind of
• 52:11
  wonder I'd want to ask AGM engineer like how come you went
• 52:14
  with a with arguably a smaller manufacturer on your flagship
• 52:17
  model yeah I I will get that answer I.
• 52:21
  Would be curious because by the way, they even.
• 52:23
  Let them put, I mean, because we all know about branding, they
• 52:25
  let them put that it's on the it's on the caliper.
• 52:27
  And The funny thing is, and I said this to you guys when I was
• 52:30
  last. On, and I've said this for a
• 52:31
  long time, not even on TT, the one thing that you don't have to
• 52:34
  worry about on performance Corvettes of the last, let's
• 52:37
  call it 15 years is their brakes because they have some of the
• 52:42
  best braking power out of any manufacturer on the planet.
• 52:46
  Like they are like if there was ever one thing you didn't want
• 52:49
  to worry about on a Corvette, it's those brakes every time
• 52:52
  they had their carbon ceramics or the Steely's.
• 52:55
  And so I find it interesting, but it clearly has not made a
• 52:58
  difference in any way, shape or form that that car has its
• 53:01
  stopping power. Absolutely Tesla should be
• 53:05
  talking to GM engineers about their brakes for their plat and
• 53:08
  I agree and that now that's a shot they should be going ahead
• 53:11
  and talking to them because Chevy has the braking power
• 53:15
  right and what not. And just so I just find curious,
• 53:19
  is it kind of it was more of a curiosity.
• 53:21
  Than 100% just given you know what?
• 53:23
  Most. Vehicles have these days, right?
• 53:25
  Porsche obviously uses Bremos exclusively and it's not to
• 53:28
  throw shade at either company. It's not even about that.
• 53:30
  It's just it was an interesting thing out of their flagship car
• 53:33
  and especially actually not a like a low production or you
• 53:36
  know, it cost is no object at this point.
• 53:38
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why that why that that's
• 53:39
  probably that's the R1X. I think I told you probably.
• 53:42
  About $300,000 no. You had such a passion for
• 53:45
  stopping. Well, I'm just saying if you're
• 53:47
  going to go ahead if you got. Ryan is perpetual as much as
• 53:51
  much as we've. Ever spoke talking about?
• 53:53
  Brakes, I think well, I mean it's listen when you when you
• 53:56
  got. 1100 plus horsepower or whatever and you're running
• 54:00
  under 7 at the ring and this is probably the fastest North
• 54:02
  American car ever built. You know you would like for it
• 54:05
  to stop. You know this is true.
• 54:07
  Well, the irony is. I'm I'm misquoting?
• 54:10
  The the some of the facts, but you can't when you see a car go
• 54:13
  by when they when people talk about mods for cars, obviously
• 54:17
  it's wheels, right? Wheels are the first thing
• 54:18
  people notice. Maybe it's taller, Easy, but
• 54:20
  brakes. When you go to semen.
• 54:23
  Talk brakes is kind of they're the more expensive item, but
• 54:26
  sure, something that people quickly try to customize because
• 54:30
  they're the next noticeable thing.
• 54:31
  Very much so, you know, they don't care about anything else
• 54:34
  other than what do I look like when I'm rolling down the
• 54:36
  street? And if you got a big set of
• 54:37
  brakes, that must mean you have, you know, a bajillion horsepower
• 54:40
  under the hood. So it's it's it's partially a
• 54:43
  visual mod too. I agree.
• 54:44
  What are you taking away? If you can.
• 54:46
  No, You guys go first. I'm gonna go last.
• 54:48
  Okay, so I have. A It's got something really
• 54:50
  good. Stand up.
• 54:52
  Blow everybody elses choices out of the.
• 54:54
  Block actually going to be that Honda bike.
• 54:58
  Yeah. It's like they did not let me
• 54:59
  ride from the record. No, but if they do, we will.
• 55:01
  Have video of that? Yes.
• 55:03
  Only because we have not signed up.
• 55:04
  Yet. So we did have to take
• 55:08
  breathalyzer tests this morning, by the way.
• 55:09
  For for these drives, well, no, Ryan had an error he didn't
• 55:14
  actually pass remember she said this thing is kind of finicky.
• 55:16
  They had really terrible breath or.
• 55:19
  She's like. This is fine.
• 55:22
  Yeah, they've never seen a BAC so high.
• 55:24
  At, you know, 9:00 in the morning.
• 55:26
  But horseshoes and hand grenades, yeah.
• 55:29
  So Spark SPA. RQ has a big display and they
• 55:32
  worked with the Peterson to bring in some cars and I had the
• 55:36
  chance to, I was with Dan and I actually got to help open the
• 55:40
  door on the Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren.
• 55:43
  So that is the one that I take home.
• 55:47
  That's that's a good one guys. I I saw my baby again today.
• 55:51
  Did you hear a Corolla? We yes, I'm in red.
• 55:54
  I have. Absolutely with.
• 55:55
  A roof rack. The roof rack really threw me.
• 55:57
  Off I was talking to worry about that like that feels a little
• 56:00
  that's that's a bridge too far telling you man they could put
• 56:02
  surfboards on that was also. A bridge too far was that had an
• 56:04
  automatic, Yeah. But I guess that's hard to money
• 56:07
  shift. But it had that red, that
• 56:08
  beautiful red, so. That the color?
• 56:11
  I'm curious to see how many. Automatics, they end.
• 56:13
  Up selling for 25, No and maybe it's wonderful.
• 56:15
  I haven't driven it yet. It will, but.
• 56:17
  You know, I really again for the money for 30 grand, I walked
• 56:19
  right past the Supra. I walked.
• 56:21
  Can you get, I mean, is there a yeah, you can get a pay.
• 56:23
  Together, can you get them? That's the question here.
• 56:25
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Your point?
• 56:27
  Or like you know. Being able.
• 56:28
  To access. These.
• 56:29
  Cars without a bunch of because like ZR ones?
• 56:31
  I've already seen a handful ZR ones pop up and they're anywhere
• 56:34
  from 100 to 200 over stick. The dealership by my house has
• 56:38
  a. Couple just under 40.
• 56:39
  I think they have about 3839. That's perfect.
• 56:41
  Yeah. You know, I hope someone goes in
• 56:43
  and. Buys in the GR Corolla.
• 56:44
  You'll have more fun than GR Corolla than you will.
• 56:45
  In that Corvette I have a mic, Can I drop it?
• 56:49
  Yes, yeah, good. For it, I mean, yeah, you can.
• 56:51
  I mean we. We were we, we still.
• 56:53
  Didn't listen to you what what you had to say, but yeah, that's
• 56:55
  that's not you can drop it all you want, much like you.
• 56:58
  It's not the first time. All right, So you're going to
• 57:01
  end this and then we'll. Yeah.
• 57:02
  Michael, what you got? There will be no one.
• 57:07
  Who doesn't make a comment? When you roll up in a Toyota
• 57:11
  Crown station wagon, the one. The one here, the one.
• 57:14
  Here is black so. I think it's not doing services,
• 57:18
  but I liked it. But it has a beautiful.
• 57:20
  It has a. Beautiful.
• 57:20
  Like a like almost boss roasted. Yeah, baseball leathery.
• 57:24
  Colored material. The interior is gorgeous, Yeah.
• 57:27
  But that car, if that car was in, if they had brought that car
• 57:30
  out like a color, you could see. Yeah.
• 57:32
  Yeah. Because it's next to two others
• 57:33
  that are on darker color. So it kind of gets.
• 57:34
  Blends in. You miss, you miss kind of.
• 57:36
  It almost has a shooting break feel a little bit.
• 57:38
  You didn't know this car existed.
• 57:40
  I didn't. I pointed it out.
• 57:41
  That's my. Point.
• 57:41
  Yeah, no idea. And now he's on, Yeah.
• 57:44
  And out of anything down there? Someone First off, you're not
• 57:47
  going to use it in a parking lot because it's not going to look
• 57:49
  like anything else. And secondly, you're going to
• 57:51
  use the hell out of it whether you have kids or not because
• 57:53
  it's actually useful and it drives great.
• 57:56
  That's I don't know. Time and what you can drive me.
• 57:59
  Around in it like that'll be like I mean, that'd be.
• 58:00
  Wonderful. Like, why else would I buy it
• 58:02
  when he picks me up from LAX? Yeah.
• 58:04
  Exactly. So 2 Toyotas from.
• 58:07
  Denver a Chevy and McLaren McLaren Mercedes and that
• 58:12
  concept yeah, but you know I will say I.
• 58:13
  Hadn't seen the crown before today.
• 58:15
  Either yeah, and I know what you mean about in terms of like
• 58:18
  showing it on the show floor for maximum impact.
• 58:20
  I really like it in the black and I'm not typically a black
• 58:23
  car person, but I thought it made it look like a luxury car.
• 58:26
  Yeah, yeah, like it lends it. The lines lend themselves well
• 58:29
  to black, and I think with by the way, so did the Jetta, says
• 58:33
  G. Sedans that you were in the back
• 58:34
  of that G90 was in, but that was that was a beautiful yeah.
• 58:39
  That's almost like a BMW metallic.
• 58:40
  So I agree with you, but not sure that the jet, the Genesis
• 58:42
  got a shout out. Mainly because they went ahead
• 58:44
  and honorable mentioned, Yeah, right.
• 58:46
  Yeah, exactly. But I think.
• 58:48
  I think it was a good, you know, when you think about which where
• 58:52
  are you spending your most amount of time with the cars on
• 58:54
  the interior and that was with the 2 tone.
• 58:56
  You have like the beautiful kind of baseball glove, you know,
• 58:59
  tobacco interior. So you get some color there.
• 59:02
  But yeah, I think like I had the Forester like last spring and it
• 59:07
  was so useful and I think the the the layout is very similar.
• 59:11
  I think it would be so useful to have yes, if you order an Uber
• 59:15
  Black and that showed up yeah, I.
• 59:16
  Wouldn't I wouldn't be like this is this is garbage.
• 59:18
  It's like it's actually incredible.
• 59:20
  Yeah, there there's my 2 car solution.
• 59:22
  A GR Corolla in a crown wagon or whatever.
• 59:25
  Is that all-wheel drive? Because it is.
• 59:27
  It is a hybrid and. It's it's rain.
• 59:28
  I looked at it. It's a hybrid I.
• 59:30
  I just I. Think that is a great garage?
• 59:33
  Actually, right. Like right about that was it?
• 59:34
  Last year and the GT. 4 unique. Who needs a?
• 59:38
  GT4 when you get a Toyota Crown, Jorge.
• 59:40
  Solution plus the fun car, yeah. Anyway, I just, yeah, I think.
• 59:44
  Toyota's really, really killing it, Right?
• 59:46
  That's the car that surprised me the most.
• 59:47
  Yeah. Honest to God.
• 59:48
  Because. Again, to your point, yeah, I
• 59:50
  knew they had crowns, but I didn't know they had a crown
• 59:52
  wagon. Yeah, no, I've seen, never seen
• 59:54
  an ad, never seen ATV. Spot Toyota has billboards and.
• 59:58
  All over LA and TV ads every 5 minutes yeah not one of them
• 1:00:02
  filled that car yeah, not a mention.
• 1:00:04
  And it's actually, I would argue one of their more useful parts.
• 1:00:07
  True. Yeah, yeah, the application
• 1:00:09
  like. It's it has so.
• 1:00:10
  Many. Yeah, well, and there's so many,
• 1:00:12
  like if you have kids, you have pets.
• 1:00:13
  If you're hauling this stuff. Yeah, like you can fold the back
• 1:00:16
  seats down. It's.
• 1:00:17
  We're calling this episode Toyota Thon.
• 1:00:19
  There we are, friends. There we are.
• 1:00:20
  If you wrap this up. Yeah, let's go see.
• 1:00:22
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• 1:00:24
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• 1:00:26
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• 1:00:29
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• 1:00:30
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• 1:00:34
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