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  Speaker 1: The following.
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  Speaker 2: He is a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and the
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  Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys.
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  Speaker 3: This is Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.
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  Speaker 1: What is up? Everyone? Welcome to Cowboys Storyline. It is Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: January the thirtieth, and it's time to talk more Cowboys. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: we know the teams in the Super Bowl and not
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  Speaker 1: really a huge surprise. I mean, obviously the forty nine
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  Speaker 1: ers have been one of the best teams all year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs struggled at some point in the regular season,
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  Speaker 1: but they always had Mahomes and they always have Andy
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  Speaker 1: Reid and Kelsey and that group, and you never count
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  Speaker 1: them out. And they look where they are and it
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  Speaker 1: should be a fun Super Bowl. Obviously from the Cowboys perspective,
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  Speaker 1: you look at it and you go, well, why not
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  Speaker 1: us again? Why not? Why couldn't this team get there,
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  Speaker 1: get over the top. And do you look at the
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  Speaker 1: championship games and the divisional rounds and see things among
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  Speaker 1: those teams, and you know, I do, Actually I see
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  Speaker 1: some ability to run the football and the toughness that
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  Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys still need to kind of get
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  Speaker 1: to that level. Not saying they're not tough, but you've
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  Speaker 1: got to be tougher than what we've seen, especially in
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  Speaker 1: the trenches on both sides of the ball. We've talked
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  Speaker 1: about it, and I'm sure we'll talk about it some
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  Speaker 1: more right now at the two All Star Games going on,
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  Speaker 1: one of them here at the start of the East
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  Speaker 1: West Rine Game for the first time is in Frisco.
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  Speaker 1: See some players on the field. We've been able to
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  Speaker 1: watch some of the practices. And then Mobile, Alabama is
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  Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl going on as well, and it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of a new year in college All Star games would
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  Speaker 1: now allowing the juniors to play if they if they
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  Speaker 1: want to play in these games, and that's something we
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen before. So you're seeing juniors at the Senior Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the way it is. Jerry Jones Stephen Jones
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  Speaker 1: are down Inmobile. I know Nick Harris was there among
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  Speaker 1: some of the reporters talking to Jerry and Steven. Just now.
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  Speaker 1: So go back to the website Dallas Cowboys dot com.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have some stories and updates on that all right.
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  Speaker 1: Also Pro Bowl news, the Cowboys have three more Pro
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  Speaker 1: bowlers added, Jake Ferguson, Tyler Smith, the Marcus Lawrence much
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  Speaker 1: deserving for them. Cowboys now have ten Pro Bowlers in
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  Speaker 1: the game. Obviously it's not a game, but ten selections,
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  Speaker 1: and judging by Twitter and my tweet of it, I
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  Speaker 1: can tell not a lot of fans care about that,
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  Speaker 1: which is fine. You shouldn't really, but you know, from
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  Speaker 1: a player standpoint, is a big deal for those guys.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, to be a four time Pro bowler
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  Speaker 1: for DeMarcus Lawrence is big and obviously first timer for
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  Speaker 1: Tyler and Jake Ferguson. All right, we are going to
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  Speaker 1: the phone lines, aight, aight eight eight five five two
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  Speaker 1: two nine seven. Joe in Stanford, you've been holding for
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  Speaker 1: a while. Appreciate that, Joe. What's up?
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  Speaker 4: Hey morning, brother, appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: How are you?
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  Speaker 4: Good man? You know I'm further we get away from
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  Speaker 4: the game, less angry, I feel first, you know, as
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  Speaker 4: far as the Super Bowl goals, none of my team's
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  Speaker 4: won it. Usually It's worked out that way for a
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  Speaker 4: long time now. Back in the nineties, I was a
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  Speaker 4: Bulls and a Cowboys fan, But since then, every team
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  Speaker 4: I root for loses, so I'm getting used to it.
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  Speaker 4: I guess I'm rooting for Kansas City my homes is
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  Speaker 4: a Texan, so I guess I can go that way
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  Speaker 4: with it. Two things real quick, I won't be as
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  Speaker 4: long as I was last time. First, do you think
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  Speaker 4: Trey Lance is going to be our backup? Do you
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  Speaker 4: think the Cowboys actually have a plan for his future
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  Speaker 4: to be with the Cowboys? And the second thing is
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  Speaker 4: that broadest rant that everybody has talked about. Do you
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  Speaker 4: feel like that Steven is happy with the status quo
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  Speaker 4: because that's essentially what brought us is in Sea Wait,
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  Speaker 4: and that he doesn't really care as long as we're relevant.
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  Speaker 1: I don't agree with them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think that's what he's saying. Don't you
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  Speaker 4: think that's what he was saying.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think that that I've had,
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  Speaker 1: We've had callers on here that think that that the
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys want to just be relevant, like just want to
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  Speaker 1: be up there, And I don't. I don't necessarily I
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  Speaker 1: don't agree with that at all, that you just want
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  Speaker 1: to be relevant. But I think people are mistaking the
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  Speaker 1: fact that they're not making big changes that's saying that
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  Speaker 1: they're okay with it. I don't. I don't agree with that.
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  Speaker 1: I think that you know, you have a good, good team,
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  Speaker 1: you have a you've built a foundation here. What tweaks
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  Speaker 1: do we need to do? We need to blow this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing up? Or do you need to make a
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  Speaker 1: couple of changes here and there? And I think that's
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  Speaker 1: the route the Cowboy's going back. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: like we're fine, we had a great year because we
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  Speaker 1: have all these ratings on our football game, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that's it at all. And do you real quick.
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, Yeah, do you think that
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  Speaker 4: they have they have or are going to make changes
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  Speaker 4: because it could look like the same whole thing if
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  Speaker 4: Quinn comes back. I mean, are there any weeks or
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  Speaker 4: change is gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a great question. And I've written
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  Speaker 1: an article on that they have to do something. They
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  Speaker 1: are not good enough. I mean, like we watched the
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay forty nine er game and you're like, both
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  Speaker 1: of these teams just kick their ass, So you're not
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  Speaker 1: that close. I mean they're close, but not really. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they are not on the level of the forty nine ers,
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if they would be for the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs that didn't they didn't play them, so you're there,
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  Speaker 1: you're in the tournament, you know, but you're not. You're
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  Speaker 1: not on that top level, and so they've got to
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  Speaker 1: figure out a way to get there. Joe, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's you're right about that, and you're not gonna change
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  Speaker 1: any coordinators and all that. You're gonna say, let's roll
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  Speaker 1: this out again. Think about dan Quinn's defense from year
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  Speaker 1: one to year two. It was much different. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I think Jerry's hoping that you're one to two from
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy and Dak could be even better than what it was.
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  Speaker 1: But they better get a running game in there. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I think needs to be fixed. They've got to
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  Speaker 1: get they've got to be able to run the ball
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  Speaker 1: when it's third and three and you're trying to run
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  Speaker 1: out the clock and everyone knows you've got to run
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  Speaker 1: the football because you've got to make sure they call
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  Speaker 1: a time out. You know, you got to be able
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  Speaker 1: to get three yards because but Checo can do it
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  Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. They figure it out and they can
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  Speaker 1: run it when the world knows they're running.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, all four of the teams in the in
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  Speaker 4: the championship games had very substantial run games.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and in different ways. Sometimes it's it's running the
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  Speaker 1: ball right up the middle. Sometimes it's Lamar Jackson running
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  Speaker 1: it or whatever it is. You know, sometimes you have
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  Speaker 1: receivers running it like the forty nine ers have. They
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  Speaker 1: have all kinds of different runners there, but one way
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  Speaker 1: or another, they don't have to put the ball in
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  Speaker 1: the air to get yardage. And I think that's what
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys need to figure out how to do a
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  Speaker 1: better job of. Thanks man, Thanks Joe, appreciate that. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let's keep it rolling here, we've got we got to
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  Speaker 1: let's go with a text question here, Dan from Philly,
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  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Dan Campbell's decisions on all
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  Speaker 1: the fourth down calls against the Niners. It's one thing
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  Speaker 1: to be aggressive, but he keeps putting his team in
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  Speaker 1: beast situations. Past cowboy Greg Hardy. I'm good on that one.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine, Greg Cardy. They don't have a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: for him, Dan Campbell, Now there's a past cowboy. Well
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk about that one. You know. That's that was unfortunate.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't agree with that. With the calls, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: agree And this is not hindsight. It's not hindsight. It's
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  Speaker 1: right there. It's actually foresight when you think about it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't have a huge problem with the
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  Speaker 1: fourth down fourth quarter one as I did the third quarter.
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  Speaker 1: Third quarter. I thought that was a ridiculous decision because
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  Speaker 1: you're up seventeen at the half and you know the
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  Speaker 1: forty nine ers are gonna come at you. They're ready,
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  Speaker 1: whatever they said. They got to get this thing done.
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  Speaker 1: They go down and get a field goal, You drive down,
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  Speaker 1: you could get another field goal. At this point, we
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  Speaker 1: can just match whatever you're doing. I can do that's
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  Speaker 1: cool because I'm up seventeen. But they didn't. They went
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  Speaker 1: for it, trying to go up twenty one, and they
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  Speaker 1: didn't get it. Next thing, you know, it's a seven
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  Speaker 1: point game because weird stuff starts to happen, and then
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  Speaker 1: you start, you know, then you start nerves start factoring.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was a bad decision by Dan Campbell
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  Speaker 1: the first time around. And I say this all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I there's a there's no difference to me between playing
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  Speaker 1: to win and playing not to lose. The result is
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  Speaker 1: the same. And I think that you've got to put
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  Speaker 1: yourself in the best you know, situation to will win
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  Speaker 1: the game, and especially you know, put the forty nine ers,
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  Speaker 1: keep them on the ropes. And I thought that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the way he plays. And he played it
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  Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. He was just like, go for it
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  Speaker 1: two points. Oh, now now you're you're back to the seven.
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  Speaker 1: Go for it. Oh you didn't get it again, but
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  Speaker 1: you got another pill to go for it. It's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you play that way, you're gonna you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: win some, you're gonna lose some. But I thought in
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  Speaker 1: this situation, I thought he could have played it a
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  Speaker 1: little bit smarter than he did. But you know, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's the style that got him there. That's the style
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  Speaker 1: that everyone loves, and he's going to be that way.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought his impatience maybe got the best of
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  Speaker 1: him a little bit. All right, Alex in South Bay, California, Alex.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Nick?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I have no talk? Hope, Paul has been well.
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  Speaker 5: Happy New Year.
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  Speaker 4: It's been a while.
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to touch on two things.
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  Speaker 4: Really quick for you.
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  Speaker 2: So the first is, you know, as a because when
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  Speaker 2: I called the very first time, I had mentioned you know,
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  Speaker 2: I grew up on the Triplets. My favorite player was
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  Speaker 2: Ema Smith, which obviously that's still to this day. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't have as good as a memory as you do.
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  Speaker 2: I can't go back and think of like a particular
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  Speaker 2: play or something like that that I remember. So my
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  Speaker 2: most recent memories take me to my first question that
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  Speaker 2: I have for you as a fan and as someone
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  Speaker 2: who covers a team. Two games that come to mind
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  Speaker 2: for me that were just my favorite twenty sixteen when
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  Speaker 2: you're being led by two rookies in Pittsburgh in a
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  Speaker 2: shootout with Big Ben and twenty fourteen when you go
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  Speaker 2: visit Seattle who just came from winning a championship like
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  Speaker 2: those were Those are my two most recent favorite memories
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  Speaker 2: of two games that I just thought we're outstanding. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted your opinion as far as like a
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  Speaker 2: fan and who's someone who covers the team. Again, out
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  Speaker 2: of those two games, do you have a particular favorite
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  Speaker 2: for each as a fan and as a reporter. So
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  Speaker 2: that was question number one, And then question number two
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  Speaker 2: for you was, I don't know if you heard the
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  Speaker 2: you know, the little news that kind of broke out
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  Speaker 2: regarding a past employee with the Dallas Cowboys who you know,
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  Speaker 2: said a little story about the Detroit Lions calling the Cowboys,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're was about a potential trade
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  Speaker 2: h Stephen Jones answered, and he really didn't do much
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  Speaker 2: with that.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Hearing that as a fan, it's just very disheartening. If
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  Speaker 2: that's how the organization, the organization is ran, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: be run like that obviously, because he's not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to see if you have an opinion
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  Speaker 2: on that, and then I'll just hang up to listen, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, regarding that that now, I'm not in the room either,
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  Speaker 1: so but but from a lot of people that that
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  Speaker 1: have been in the room and and and that that
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  Speaker 1: story is kind of uh, that's gotten some people's attention.
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  Speaker 1: I'll just say this, you know, from someone that wasn't
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  Speaker 1: in there, though, that that story is being told that
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  Speaker 1: that didn't happen. Okay, that's that's the side that I'm
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  Speaker 1: hearing that that nothing close to that happened. So if
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  Speaker 1: you want to form an opinion on that, I think
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  Speaker 1: you're you're marking up the wrong tree on on that one.
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  Speaker 1: So the person that told that story wasn't in the
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  Speaker 1: room either, so it's hard for me to say they
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  Speaker 1: didn't have. All I know is that I don't think
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys are you know that they obviously didn't like
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  Speaker 1: hearing that because they don't feel like that that anything
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  Speaker 1: close to that has happened. So uh again, that's it's
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  Speaker 1: I didn't, I wasn't there. I have a hard time
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  Speaker 1: believing that anything close to that happening, So I'll just
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  Speaker 1: leave it at that. As for those two games twenty
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  Speaker 1: sixteen twenty fourteen, both of them great, both of them
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  Speaker 1: games that were kind of statement type. And it's funny
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  Speaker 1: how you can in fourteen you're making a statement and
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  Speaker 1: then two years later you're doing it again because of
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  Speaker 1: kind of what happened in fifteen. But both of those
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  Speaker 1: were statement games on the road, tough place to win,
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  Speaker 1: and both of them were going back to what we
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  Speaker 1: said in the first call, run the ball. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: run it. We're gonna you know, we're gonna run the
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  Speaker 1: football and you can't do anything just to stop them.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's that's sort of what what happened in
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  Speaker 1: those games. Different runners Marco Murray won and Zeke and
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  Speaker 1: the other one. But I think it was just an
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  Speaker 1: ability to go in there in a tough place. If
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  Speaker 1: you can run the ball, you can you know, your
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  Speaker 1: offensive line can push people around. Doesn't really matter if
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  Speaker 1: it's if it's on the road or grass and indoors turf,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. You can do it, you know. So
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  Speaker 1: I think that's one of those situations where the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: those two games were just it was just as grit,
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  Speaker 1: go up there and go take it. Both of them
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  Speaker 1: are really fun and enjoyable to be right there for it.
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  Speaker 1: So good, good stuff there. All right, let's go. Robin
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  Speaker 1: Vegas is our next caller.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, Nick, Hey Rob, you know that watching that Ravens game,
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  Speaker 6: I thought I was looking at the Cowboys. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: you saw a team that was undisciplined, making stupid penalties.
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  Speaker 6: And Lamar Prescott, you know, he's the same guy, him
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  Speaker 6: and Deck. It's amazing how well in the playoffs he's
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  Speaker 6: two and four in decks two and five. And what
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  Speaker 6: I mean by that is these are two really good
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  Speaker 6: quarterbacks in the regular season, but when you get them
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  Speaker 6: in the playoffs, they don't even resemble each you know
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  Speaker 6: what they do. Lamar, for some reason, thought he was
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  Speaker 6: going to go toe to toe with Patrick Mahomes throwing
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  Speaker 6: the ball and I don't understand why his attribute is
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  Speaker 6: running and moving and and he he just wasn't doing
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  Speaker 6: that enough. And the turnovers, I mean we see that
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  Speaker 6: with Dak. It's the turnovers that always kill each of
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  Speaker 6: those quarterbacks in the playoffs. And uh, but Lamar will
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  Speaker 6: never get you know, take the heat like Dak will
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  Speaker 6: now talking about Dallas. Thought I gonna do anything big. No,
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  Speaker 6: you know how Jerry's going to spin this. Jerry's going
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  Speaker 6: to turn around and say, well, we got Digs coming back,
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  Speaker 6: we got over shown going to come back. Mazie should
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  Speaker 6: be better, Mike McCarthy, the offense should be better in
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  Speaker 6: the second year. That's how he's going to spin it.
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  Speaker 6: He's not going to go after a Chris Jones from
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  Speaker 6: Tansas City or Patrick Queen from the Graves. He's not
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  Speaker 6: going to do those moves he should if he really
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  Speaker 6: thinks he's close. Yeah, and he's staying he's going to
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  Speaker 6: sign that to fifty something million. And if Dan Quinn
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  Speaker 6: comes back, you need to make some moves. Not for
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  Speaker 6: the not so much for the fans, because unfortunately, guys
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  Speaker 6: like us who and women like us that are on
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  Speaker 6: the show, we're gonna watch regardless if we're four and
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  Speaker 6: twelve of thirty, you know we're going to be there.
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  Speaker 6: But if you truly believe that you're in the same
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  Speaker 6: class as the forty nine Ers, the Eagles, whoever, and
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  Speaker 6: you're only a player at two a way, and we
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  Speaker 6: see what plays their way. They need defensive line and
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  Speaker 6: they need linebackers on the defense and on the offense.
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  Speaker 6: You do need a running back, but you need a bigger,
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  Speaker 6: stronger offensive line, maybe center. If you truly believe that's
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  Speaker 6: all you're missing, well, there's a lot of good guys.
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  Speaker 6: You got the guy in Washington. I would love for
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  Speaker 6: him to make a move for Allen. You're going to
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  Speaker 6: have to spend some money. I don't see them moving
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  Speaker 6: Michael Parsons to middle linebacker, which that would be the
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  Speaker 6: best move to do, but I don't see it. We
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  Speaker 6: already discussed that, but unfortunately I just see I think
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  Speaker 6: that's how Jerry's gonna spit it. I don't know about
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  Speaker 6: the Stephen Jones thing. I hope he doesn't become like
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  Speaker 6: the Steinbrenner family. When mister Steinbrenner passed away, the Yankees
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  Speaker 6: fell apart because the kids never had to put in
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  Speaker 6: the blood sweat and tears, like mister Steinbrenner did, and
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  Speaker 6: like mister Jones, did you know?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you bought the team.
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  Speaker 6: And let's face it, it's good to be a Jones.
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: I mean, the grandsons, the sons, the daughters. Here you go.
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: You're a multi billionaire from the womb. I mean, that's
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: an awesome thing. They're not as hungry as the father.
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: And to go two ways, but.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Do you know that? Hold on? But do you know that?
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, do you really know who's hungry and who isn't?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, like that's.
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: That's predominantly predominantly Yes, Yes, it's just a natural thing.
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: You see it With Jerry, Jerry made two coaching moves
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: that were unconventioned. Jimmy, because I just did invested a
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: hundred and forty million. I needed a return. As soon
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: as he got the return, Jimmy was gone. Because I
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: didn't want to put up with the craft Bill Parcells.
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: I needed a new stadium and Dave Campbell was not
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: getting that. After that, it was more about being comfortable.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: We talked about it. He hired coaches that had no business.
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: Jerry wanted it, but these there's no way that his
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: kids could be as hungry as Jerry. The team is
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: worth eleven billion, the richest sports team in the world,
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: and hasn't won anything in thirty years. So how bad
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: is life? How bad is things? That's why Jerry, and
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: unfortunately the kids always say, Dad, things aren't so bad.
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: Let's not blow it up, let's not make the move.
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: I would love to be in a fly in the
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: room and say, here, Jerry say I think we should
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: do this. No that I don't think that's a good movie.
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: You know, we are twelve of five because they they're
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: not invested like Jerry.
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: I'm not saying they don't want to.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: Win, but it's just natural. It's just natural that these
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: they never had to go through the hard times. So
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: I just I just think that's part of the problem
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: with this, with the with the whole system of the
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys is it's like you're a parent. You know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: your wife says to the kid, you're going to bed, Uh,
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: you're not play video games, and then it comes to
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: you and you say, come on, you can go play.
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: So that that that that's how the Cowboys are.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: All right and all right. I mean that's hard to
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: say because I I don't I mean, you can go
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: off perceptions on what you think, but I think this.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't sit here and say that they're
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: not hungry to win.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: I think Jerry's I'm not saying they're not hungry, but
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: they're not as hungry as somebody else. They're not as
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: hungry as as as Jerry was when he bought the team.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that aren't as fill in
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the blank as Jerry in a lot of.
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: But but but let's face it, Jerry should have fired
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: himself from GM twenty years ago. And he probably would
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: have if if we were talking about the pizza places
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: he owned or something else. But let's face it, he
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: wants this is his fun, this is his excitement, this
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: is his radio show, this is his I get on
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: the microphone. Jerry would rather be a GM that doesn't
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: win a Super Bowl than an owner who just sits
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: up in the box and wins. If they said to Jerry,
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: you got to sit in that box. You can't do
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: no more TV.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: At win a Super Bowl.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: R say no, that's fine, and we got to move
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: to another callers. But I will say this, though there's
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: not a GM in the world going to get fired
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: off this the off this last season, right, You're not
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: going to do that. You're not going to fire the GM.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: So all this, I think a lot of times people
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: like to blame Jerry just because he's the common denominator
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: for twenty eight years and all that stuff, But then
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: say that, you know this team had all this talent. Well,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's the GM. He's put there's a
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: lot of I mean, a lot of records were broken.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: A lot of Pro Bowlers know that didn't lead to
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: success in the playoffs, and I get that, but I
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: don't think it was a GM problem right now. So
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of issues, a lot of stuff going on,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: but it's it's I think that sometimes there's a moving
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: target on what people are complaining about. Uh, this is
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: a good football team, but they've got to figure out
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: how to make it great because when they play against
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: other really good teams, it didn't stack up as well.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: We all know that, we all see that. But I
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: don't think this is this is a matter of being
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: hungry or not hungry enough and whatever you like being relevant.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't believe in that. I don't they
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: built a really good team, but they still got always
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: to go to be playing football in February and we
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: haven't seen that. All right, let's go to Kadga in Russia.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: Hurrying from Russia.
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: I'm doing fine, and I'm so happy that you're taking
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: my call. Thank you. It's my first time when I'm calling.
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: And yeah, I wanted to express some emotions about how
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: it is to be a fan from Russia. It's not
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: easy and it's not that easy because mostly games are
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: playing at night when it's night here and after midnight,
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: and usually I have to go to work after that. Yeah,
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: so because of time difference.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: How how did you become a cowboy fan? And and like,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: have you always lived there?
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: I'm always lived in Russia. And I became a fan
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: because of my boyfriend. I'm in a distant relationship and
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: my boyfriend from Texas and he was busy it's Sunday
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: and was curious what he's doing, and I decided to
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: watch football.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Wow. Now that now that's a long distance relationship. Okay,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Like I mean Texas to Russia. Yeah, that's that qualifies
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: as long distance. Well, so what do you think of
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the team, What's what's going on. What are your thoughts there?
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: I think a Cowboys playing better than previous seasons. Anyway,
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: even if you don't look at this that layoff game,
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: everything else was really better and they improved so many things.
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: And even when they said they're going to work on
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: penalties to reduce amount of penalties, and they really did.
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: This was in the game with fashion gun, So I
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: see they can then be able to improve everything. I
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: just shouted that what happened or playoff game?
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: So yeah, well it's hard. You're right, it's hard to
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: take away the playoff game because that's the last one,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: that's the one we remember. But I get your point.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a it was a good season,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: but it's kind of what have you done for me
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: lately and lately that we saw? We saw that the loss,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: But what else you have any other thoughts about the team?
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: I really believe in Cowboys. I know they can play
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: better and I expect that something is impressive will happen
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: next season. So I'm just the staying positive and an optimistic.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Oh great, favorite player? Who's your favorite player? City lamb
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: ceey lamb Okay, Well, he.
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: Certainly, especially especially I like his due with Dark because
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: they're playing together so good. I like to see that
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: connection between Duck.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: And to Do.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, all right, well thanks thank you for
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: the call. Yeah, say Chris, can we get it here
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: we go? Because I mean this is certainly a first
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: time caller, first time caller from Russia for sure, So well,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for calling. And you know, I
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: say it all the time. Appreciate anybody overseas and the
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: dedication it takes to be a Cowboy fan. It's hard
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: enough being in Texas, but I can't imagine being in
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Russia and the time difference and all that. But we
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: definitely appreciate it.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Have a nice day or evening, midnight, I don't know
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: what time it is there. That's pretty awesome. Uh, Katya
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: from Russia with the call, and it's interesting, you know,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: she says, it's like it's like she just wants to
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: put the playoff game out. You know, it's like Dak
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: and Ceie they have such a great connection, well except
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: for the playoff game where they didn't, and they had
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: such a great season except for the playoff game when
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: they when they didn't. But anyways, it was a nice call.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Let me get got a couple of texts questions that
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I've been up here. I need to read. Kevin from Virginia.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I've read a couple of articles saying Zach Martin contemplating retirement.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Have you heard anything from that inside the Star? Also,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: when are you allowed to talk about other teams pending
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: free agents after the Super Bowl? New League year. I'd
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: like to ask questions about free agency, but really respectful
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: towards the process. Don't get you in trouble. Thank you
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: appreciate that, Kevin from Virginia. It's always a little interesting
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: to talk about free agents because you know, I think
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: when it gets a couple of weeks, three weeks or
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: so closer you get into March, get into late February,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: when you get an idea that you know teams are
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: going to be you know, players are going to be
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: free agents. Some of the guys you have all the
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: way up until mid March to be resigned with your team,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: so you're still technically with the team, but you kind
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: of get an idea who's on the list, at least
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: who's on the list for unrestricted free agents. And that's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the way I view it. I mean, you're on the
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: list until you're not, uh, you know, you can't go
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: sign these guys, but you know you're you're you're a
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: pending free agent. And I think that's I don't think that.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I think we could sit and talk about that kind
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: of stuff and you know, just no knowing that you know,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: anything can happen when you get up until to the
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: middle of March. So as for Zach Martin, I have
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: not heard that. I know he's not playing in the
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl. He opted out of that. I
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: think I think his wife's expecting their respecting another child,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: so that that's one of the reasons. And also I
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: think he knews that that Tyler Smith was the next alternate,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: so by him not going to the Pro Bowl, Tyler
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Smith gets to do that. And so but I don't think, no,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's contemplating retirement. I I I think
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: he was thinking about his future. And I think if
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: he would have done if he really was thinking that way,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think he would have done that back in
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: training camp, you know, holding out like he did and
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: you know, wanting a little bit more money. I don't
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I think you would have done that if it was just
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: one year away. From from calling to quits unless something
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: happened this year. But I just don't I haven't heard
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: that and get the sense of that. He was talking
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: after the game about what they need to do to
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: get better next season and stuff, So I don't believe
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: that that is the case. There. All right, let's go
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: to Trey in Virginia.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: I can hear you, Nick, can you hear me?
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Man? What's up?
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: Oh man, I'm I'm hyped to be online with you
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: First time, first time calling Chris.
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: There, let's go.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Let's go, all.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Right real quick. I just wanted to say, first off,
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: like a lot of people say thank you, thank Derek
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: and everybody, because I've been following y'all for over twenty
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: years now. I'm thirty four. I'm one of those young guys.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah you sound eighteen like I would. I wouldn't have
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: thought twenty yeah.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, like my first memory super Bowl thirty
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: Larry Brown two interceptions, twenty seven to seventeen. That's my
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: first memory. Every six you're exactly fresh, sick.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Hey, that's yeah, that's the way to do it. Who
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: would have thought that? You wouldn't have wouldn't have had
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: another one?
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: A exact not yet yet, but you know, just just
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: giving the good vibes out for everybody. I'm also a
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: University of Virginia fan, anybody that knows anything about college athletics,
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: I'm a spurned person in a lot of ways. But
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: then that one time happened in twenty nineteen after we
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: got embarrassed by UNBC the previous year.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: So are you saying, are you saying Purdue is gonna
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: win it all in basketball this year?
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: Hey, if it does happen, then I'm damn sure putting
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: some money on the Cowboys next year.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: And if you don't know what, we're referring to, Virginia
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: the number one seed or a number one seed in
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the tournament in twenty nineteen.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Twenty eighteen, and we lost twenty.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Eighteen, first team to ever lose to a number sixteen seed. Embarrassing,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: so embarrassing for a year that they came back the
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: next year and won the whole tournament. And then Purdue,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: a number one seed last season, lost to a number
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: sixteen and uh and they're number one or maybe number
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: one in the country. They're really good this year. So
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: exact point is as embarrassing as it might be to
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: bowl out in the tournament or the playoffs. If you
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: if you're built the right way, you can you can
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: turn it around. We'll see if We'll see if they
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: But exactly see, you knew where I was going well
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: to catch.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah I knew. Yeah, you gotta be cavalier in the
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: way that you respond to adversity.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: Exactly where we go exactly You gotta have the right guy.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Didn't they have a guy named Guy? No, yeah he did,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Kyle Guy. You gotta have the right guy to to
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: lead him. All right, I'm done. I'm done with the
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: bad jobs. Sorry, I've never done them, but I've done
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: it for now.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: All right, two quick things, but yeah, on top of that,
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: just thinking you guys, because like I said, over the
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: last twenty push years of watching the Doctor and everybody
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: like y'all have been like the extra friends. I never
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: knew idea because you got me through all the good
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: and all the bad. And that's beyond the playing field.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: That's just personal struggle that divorced everything. And now it's
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: all good because I've got a wonderful fiance now, so
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: you know, second time to charm agree, But yeah, so
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: it's just through all the good and bad, no matter
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: how bad things may seem, how bad it hurts as
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: a sportsman because trusted we all know it. There's always
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: like at the end of the day, and I just
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: I appreciate all you guys because your content is just
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: it's it's amazing. I wish I could have seen you
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: guys in Oxnard this past Jax. I did go to
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: the first Saturday Can't Win. You know, it was the
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: infamous Mojo moment where everybody.
• 30:39
  Speaker 9: Was missing field goals.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: So I was so who knew we were going to all?
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Did you think you were seeing an all pro kicker
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: that day? And when they were missing field goals.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: I thought he had an all pro leg because he was
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: definitely booming from distance. It was just going to the
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: left for the right.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm done with two things I've decided I'm done
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: with this year. I'm never gonna do again. Number One,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I'm never gonna root for a certain team the Cowboys
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: should play in the playoffs, never doing that again because
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: you just don't know. Number Two, I'm never judging any
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: kicks in Oxnard, California again, not judging a kicker by
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: what I see or don't see. In Oxnard's I'm not
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: saying it's like this wind tunnel, but it just doesn't.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: The kicks don't. It's just weird. It's weird the way
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: they kick there. It's weird the way the win does.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Kind of, it's a cross win just as long as
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: is they're decent. Just get to the games. We'll see
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: what happens. Dan Bailey wasn't very good, if I remember,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: actually Dan Bailey was in Santonio his rookie year, but
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I know he'd come back after that and he wasn't
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: that good coming off a Pro Bowl year, and then
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: everything was fine us Oxnard. It's great in many ways,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: but judging kickers is not one of.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: Them, exactly exactly.
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: If then, last up, I'll just make it quick.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: I had sent you the text last week about what
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: you went in between like a center and a linebacker,
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: so I wanted to follow that up with and I'll
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: let you go. When it comes to a linebacker, what
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: type of traits would you love to see in them?
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: And I'll say for me to answer, because I know
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: you like to throw it back. I would love to
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: see a ray Lewis Morey in more recent terms. That's
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: what I want to type of dude.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll take a Ray Lewis. Thank you. Yeah,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I'll take that guy. You know, I know what you're saying.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: And he was picked six or so.
• 32:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah, he was a late first rounder.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: And then also for the center, I would I wish
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: we could find the next Fredbeard, Travis Frederick. That would
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: make my heart, you know, complete, if we could find
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: the next But you know they're not a diamond dozen.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: So I'll hang up and I'll listen to your thoughts.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: Thank you for your call, Thank you for your time,
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: and I plan on being on more often.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: All right, that sounds good. Good call, Good job, Trey. Uh,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: you know, center, you know, I'm just I'm going to
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: the woods. I'm finding this lumberjack that's got some football
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: abilding and uh, you know, he's got some quickness to him,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: strong as an ox. That's what that's guy I want.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I'm obviously joking, but but you just need that tough,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: bouncer type type guy. And uh, I think they they
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: missed that a little bit.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Linebacker, this is where it'll be interesting to see Dan
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Quinn if he does come back as the defensive coordinator.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: That I think there needs to be a little bit
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: of a philosophical change. I'm looking more of a run
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: hit type linebacker that that fills the gap more than
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: than okay, so maybe his forty times wasn't the best.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget when I was younger and I was
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: really really into football, and I had a VHS tape
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: and I might have told this story about It was
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: called Crunch Course. It was about the biggest hits. It
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: was a forty five minute NFL Films tape on hitting
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: and tough guys and things like that. And a guy
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: had a quote about Dick Bukis and he said, if
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: you asked him to run the forty would take him
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: three days. But sidelined to sideline, he was faster than
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: anybody on the field. He could go and chase the football. That,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: to me is what a linebacker really is in sweatpants
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: or spandex in Indianapolis running the forty and he's runs
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: a four to seven five and everyone's like, oh, not
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: very good. Okay, put him on the field, let him
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: go get the football and see what happens. And I
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: think sometimes I think from a linebacker position, especially with
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: this team, there needs to be a little bit more
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: focus on running into the hole, into the gap, filling
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: that and making the play, making the hit and taking
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: on a guard eight yards down the field and getting
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: rid of him and going to making the play. That's
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: something I think the Cowboys miss a little bit from
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the BAZ position, and I thought they were they were
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: getting that with Dimone Clark, and maybe he can develop
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: into that. But there's there's some you know, there's some
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: things that this team needs to get better at linebacker.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: And that's the kind of linebacker I'm looking at all right.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Kyle from East Brunswick, New Jersey. He says, if this
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: is the year to go all in and they're bringing
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: everyone back, would you rather sign the top defensive tackle
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: or linebacker in free agency? Mmmm? Well, the top it's
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: a different question because I think the top defensive tackles
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: are like all pros. You know, there's some of those
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: guys out there. I don't know if there's top linebackers
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: that are that are that way. So it's probably gonna
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: make more sense if they if they get the top linebacker,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: because I think I think from what the cost is.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: But either way, if they have an ability to stop
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the run, that's the guy that I'm I'm looking for.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: All Right, let's let's go to Matt in Los Angeles.
• 36:04
  Speaker 9: What's up.
• 36:05
  Speaker 11: It's my second time calling it. I was the one
• 36:09
  Speaker 11: last week talking about tacking the sports psychologists. Okay, and
• 36:13
  Speaker 11: that's not a knock on him, by the way at all.
• 36:16
  Speaker 11: I wasn't trying to No.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't think so. I mean, yeah, I'm not. I
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: didn't think so.
• 36:23
  Speaker 11: I just felt like in that Packer game, you didn't
• 36:26
  Speaker 11: see those mistakes all season long. You know that the mistakes?
• 36:29
  Speaker 11: Who was making that Packer game? But anyways, in regards
• 36:33
  Speaker 11: to the draft class, I hate the grief they're getting.
• 36:37
  Speaker 11: I think it's more of a credit to the way
• 36:39
  Speaker 11: they've drafted in the recent in the in the.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: That's that's part of it, you know what I mean.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: It's they have two things. Are you saying, are they
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: because they're getting compared to better classes or because those
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: classes are those players are still here and it's hard
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: to get onto the field.
• 36:56
  Speaker 11: I was talking about hard to get on the field.
• 36:58
  Speaker 11: But you but your first point is just more solidified as.
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: What I'm trying to gay.
• 37:05
  Speaker 11: I do I am, I I am upset. I mean
• 37:07
  Speaker 11: that they totally whiffed on Kelvin Joseph and Nashaan Wright.
• 37:13
  Speaker 11: I mean it's but then it's like, Okay, well they
• 37:15
  Speaker 11: struck goal with Bland, I get it. Yeah, but like
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: they couldn't like you know, Cheeto and Jordan Lewis like,
• 37:21
  Speaker 11: just give me that, you know what I mean. If
• 37:23
  Speaker 11: they could have got that type of play out of
• 37:25
  Speaker 11: calvit at Nashon, then we won't be playing zone coverage
• 37:28
  Speaker 11: against the Packers the entire game because didn't even trust
• 37:31
  Speaker 11: Right to go in there for Gilmour and place a
• 37:33
  Speaker 11: man you know, you know.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: But let me say this about na Shon right, nay
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Shaan Wright was is a product of what Dan Quinn's
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: prototype corner. He wants that big, long cornerback that that
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: can that can run and turn his hips and things
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: like that. And Nasehaan Wright showed the traits of that.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: He didn't show he didn't have a lot of tape
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: of him doing that. I think this was more of
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: a kind of a project and maybe develop him, and
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: he just hasn't developed to that level. You know, he's
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: got he looks the part. You know, if he was,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: if he could do all the things you would want
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: at a corner and then yeah, but you know there's
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: a reason why there's not many six four corners. I mean,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: there's just hard to do that. I mean, there's a
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: there's it's hard to keep up with Tyreek Shill even
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: if you look like him much less if you're six
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: four and lanky and stuff like that. So it's tough.
• 38:30
  Speaker 11: But uh, scoot, like Mozzie and Schoomaker, those are positions
• 38:34
  Speaker 11: that are that typically take a good take a good
• 38:38
  Speaker 11: season like quddit. Williams was not dominant his rookie year,
• 38:42
  Speaker 11: you know, and I think I think they're getting what
• 38:46
  Speaker 11: they what they expected out of those positions. What does
• 38:50
  Speaker 11: confuse me about Mazzi is they drafted him to be
• 38:53
  Speaker 11: a trash can full of dirt and then they made
• 38:55
  Speaker 11: him drop like as the size of a three tech.
• 38:58
  Speaker 11: You know, if you heard any whisper around the water
• 39:01
  Speaker 11: cooler as to why they were doing.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: That, No, No, I have not, and I that that
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: hasn't come up. It probably it probably should, but I
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: have not. I've not heard exactly what went into that,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: and I'm not one hundred percent sure that the Cowboys
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: were like signing off on this, you know, like a
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: completely like, let's lose all this weight. So I really
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know we we should. I'm sure
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: those will be questions that will be asked. I do
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: know this. I talked to Lounda Wells today, actually tight
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Ends coach, and he said he, you know, I talked
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: to him about Ferguson going to the Pro Bowl. And
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: it's a big deal for you know, position coach to
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: get a guy in the Pro Bowl. And you know,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you're an alternate or not or whatever.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: He's in. He's in the Pro Bowl and he always
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: will be a Pro Bowler. But he was talking about
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: He also said, don't don't forget about Schoolmaker. He said,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: this guy got hurt at the worst time, you know,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: with right before in the off season, before camp, and
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Ferguson blew up, he really did. But he said, this
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: guy is going to be a really, really good player
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: for us, and.
• 40:12
  Speaker 11: And I expect him to take a huge second year
• 40:15
  Speaker 11: and and you know.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Who else it took a huge second year leap, right
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: So I I think they I think they'll they'll be
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: just fine. I really do. I think Ferguson will be
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: the guy and I think schoonmaker will be somebody that
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: that will you know, be a good blocker that will
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: also you know, be able to make some place. He's
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: got to He's got to be a little bit more
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: sure handed, maybe a little less stuff, but he'll be
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: He'll be fine.
• 40:41
  Speaker 11: He didn't do much of that in college, so it's
• 40:43
  Speaker 11: still somewhat new to him, you know. So I think
• 40:45
  Speaker 11: a full year working with Dak and then Overstown had
• 40:49
  Speaker 11: all the signs of being a star. You can't you
• 40:52
  Speaker 11: can't fault the team for that guy getting injured. And
• 40:56
  Speaker 11: this Bhoco, I think he's gonna be a great power dan,
• 41:00
  Speaker 11: which we need to stop the run.
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: But that was just.
• 41:02
  Speaker 11: Another I think depth pick because how well they drafted
• 41:07
  Speaker 11: in the last few years, you.
• 41:08
  Speaker 9: Know, and then you're anything beyond fourth round.
• 41:11
  Speaker 11: If you're you're hoping, but you're not expecting to get
• 41:14
  Speaker 11: like a lot of you know, that's just my personal take.
• 41:19
  Speaker 11: You know, you're hoping to get production out of them,
• 41:21
  Speaker 11: but you're not necessarily banking on or budgeting that. I
• 41:26
  Speaker 11: don't know, man Mozzi, just the vibes. I saw Malie
• 41:29
  Speaker 11: Collins get five and a half sacks as a three
• 41:31
  Speaker 11: technique as a rookie, and then they started messing with
• 41:35
  Speaker 11: them at one technique and this and that, and I'm like, no, like,
• 41:39
  Speaker 11: let Mozzi do what he does. Let him terrorize that
• 41:43
  Speaker 11: interior and help our linebackers run.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: You know, well, we'll see his big off season for
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: both of them, both the schoolmaker and Mazzie. And over
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: shown that for that matter, Over shown so far, so
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: good on the rehab, looks pretty good. If this is January,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I got I gotta. I saw a little bit of him,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and you know, for where he is here in January,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I think I think it'd be It seems like he
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: would be in good shape to to do some of
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: the off season stuff in the course training camp. All right, Matt,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: thanks for the call. Good stuff. All right, how about
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to who's this text message from here? This
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: is oh Anthony Anthony in Miami. Actually Anthony Miami was
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: our first caller. I had a little bit of difficulties
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: technically at first, and so he couldn't hang on with us.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: But uh, he said he'll be there. He said, I'm
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: still the number one caller. He said, still be the
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: number one caller. Have a great show. Sorry, Anthony, appreciate that.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry it didn't work out, but always always a
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: good caller for sure. How about Chris and San Angelo, Texas? Hello,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: good Chris? How are you?
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: I'm doing well? First off, I'll say the listening to
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: the caller from Russia, that was the lotful. I loved that.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: That was awesome. Yeah, that was that was amazing. I
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: mean especially the story. You know, She's like, what are
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: you doing? You never call me between twelve and three
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: on Sunday? What's going on here?
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: Exactly?
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Who are these cowboys? Yeah?
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: I know, I was like, Wow, I don't know if
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: I can follow that. But anyway, yeah.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hard hard to follow that for sure. But do
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: you think San Angelo, Texas is like Russia? Because I
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: think there.
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: Would be different goodness with Yeah, polar opposites. It's like, yeah, but.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: They didn't they were film Rocky for in San Angelo?
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Is that what you're telling me?
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: There was no there was no drag out.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: They actually didn't film it in Russia either. I think
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: it was in It was in Montana.
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: But whatever, right, you know, little thing Christmas? Okay, Look,
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: I just had ad a couple of questions. First off,
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: as far as the the draft goes, where are you
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: as far as let's just say, round one, round two?
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: Who you picking round one and round two position wise?
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: Not people? I don't expect you to know that.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well then okay, oh no, no.
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: My other one was as far as our free agents are,
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: I was gonna keep it kind of the same. Which two,
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: If you could only keep two, who are you keeping?
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: And then that's basically okay, that's from an unrestricted standpoint,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: exactly exactly resigning it's a good one. Okay, Well, well
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: who are your two?
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: My two are I'm thinking, oh god, you had to
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: ask me that. Okay. The guy I'm thinking Hankins and
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: in the defensive end.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: By Fowler or uh Dorn's aren't from Armstrong.
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: Sorry, thank you for I had those two in mind,
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: but I wasn't ready to enter that.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: That's okay, thank you for the call.
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: I like hank.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. I think that would be good.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Thinks you know, I would like to see I mean,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I would like to see Diggs Gilmore in Bland as
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: my the three corners. So Gilmore, you know, I throw
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: him in there. Jordan Lewis, you can you know, you could,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: you could put him in, but I think Hankins and
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Gilmore would be two. Now they're about the same as
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: far as older guys, betteran guys, but you know, it
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: was it was unfortunate what happened to Gilmore the injury,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I think it did affect the
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: team because he was one of the guys. Is ironic
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: because he was one of the guys. He's been there,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: He's won Super Bowls, he's won Defensive Player of the Years.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: You know, he's he's played in bigger games than that,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: and so you you wish you could have got one
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: hundred percent you know him health wise, and you know
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Diggs as well, and then now you've got Bland and
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: so I I that would be that would be something
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: that would be intriguing for me. It might cost a
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: little bit because you know he's he had a good year,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: but you know, with Brandon Cooks, if he comes back
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: and he should be, he's under contract, so that that
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: would be you know, that's they're good friends. I'd like
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: to see Gilmour and Hankins would be my two and
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: in that and that for that question, all right, and
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: then also for the for the rounds. You know, when
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: you're picking at that you know you, I'm looking at
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: a player that can contribute right away. That's that's what
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking. So give me a guy that that can
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: help me tomorrow. And whoever that is, maybe that it's
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: going to be. You know, maybe that would be a center,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: and I would be fine with that. Now. I will
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: say this though, don't don't forget. Free agency starts in
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: mid March. The draft is late April, so they're going
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: to have some kind of fix at center. They'll they'll
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: they'll sign someone. It doesn't mean that you're not going
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: to draft a guy in the first round. But I
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: don't think they'll be going into the draft going our
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: starting center is going to be in here. That's too
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: dangerous to do that. So they'll they'll have something there.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: But but you know, your first round, if you can,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: if you can get a plug and play linebacker or
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: center or even left tackle, if that's the route that
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: you want to go, and if if it works out,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: and if there was a guy there, running back would
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: work for me. But I don't know if it will be.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that if this is the year
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: for running back there, but who knows a lot of
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of forty times to be run, a
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: lot of pro day's, a lot of interviews combine. There's
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: there's guys that people are projecting in these early mocks
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: in the third round and next thing, you know, they
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: could be sitting there in the middle, you know. I
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: mean the guy like jam Jamier Gibbs. You know, he
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: went twelfth overall. I mean he kind of kind of
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: shot up the boards a little bit. So who knows
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: what will happen there? All right? I think the phone
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: lines are open, is that right, Chris? All right? Phone
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: lines are open. We got a little bit more to go.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll go maybe five ten more minutes or so.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: So if you want to call in quickly, this is
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: the time. If you say I never can get in,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: you can get in right now. Eight eight eight eight
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: five five two two nine seven. I know there was
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: a question up here that I did not read. Maybe
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: maybe not all right, but uh, you know, going back
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: at one of the questions about about the about the
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Lions game, and you know, just it's easy to sit
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: in and do that. You know, we talk about Dan
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Campbell should have done this, should have done that. I mean,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I'll say this though about about what he's done for
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: that team is he's brought a mentality and this is
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: not easy to do when you're the when you're the
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: coach of the Lions who have never won. And and
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: so to change the culture, change the attitude in the
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: belief of hey, we can go win. I mean that
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: that's impressive. Yeah, and I said I I thought they
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: were a little too aggressive. I thought he was and
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: the decision making. But that mindset is not easy to
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: just turn on and off. It isn't. And so not
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: trying to be hypocritical, but I'm saying, you gotta be
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: you gotta be fair. You can't just sit here and say,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: well and I did it. You know, you can't do
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: it all the time. But that's who he is, That's
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: who Dan Campbell is, That's who the Lions are now,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: and that's the belief and that's kind of what got
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: him there. So it's fair to criticize that moment. And
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: maybe it's a learning thing for him and for all coaches,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: you know, and McCarthy did it a couple of times too.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: It's a belief in your team. We we yeah we
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: can run the ball and have to kick a field
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: goal and all that. But if I just if Dak
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: just hits CD right here, game's over, because I've seen
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: him do it a million times. So it's a belief
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: in your players and your team, and sometimes it can
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: bite you, but it's it's kind of who you are.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: So on one hand, I thought it hurt the team,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: but he understand it because that's that's who he is.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Joe in Pennsylvania on the line, Joe,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: what's up.
• 50:25
  Speaker 10: Hey, Nick? Want to run something by us? Sir? What
• 50:27
  Speaker 10: you thought? When I look at how teams are built
• 50:30
  Speaker 10: and where they gain advantages, it's obviously not in salary
• 50:35
  Speaker 10: cap or practice time because those are set for all
• 50:37
  Speaker 10: the teams. So then you have to look to coaching.
• 50:41
  Speaker 10: And I think when you look, you know, objectively, at
• 50:43
  Speaker 10: Cowboys coaches, you got McCarthy who won a Super Bowl.
• 50:46
  Speaker 10: You got Quinn who's been to a Super Bowl as
• 50:49
  Speaker 10: a head coach. I think you'd say, overall, we've got
• 50:51
  Speaker 10: good coaching. Then you have to look at talent, talent acquisition.
• 50:56
  Speaker 10: I think Jerry steven and Will have done a good
• 50:59
  Speaker 10: job bringing in talent. And you know, even though he
• 51:03
  Speaker 10: may say our talent may be slightly overrated, just because
• 51:06
  Speaker 10: we're on TV a lot and everything. I still think
• 51:08
  Speaker 10: we've had good teams over the years, so I don't
• 51:11
  Speaker 10: think that's an issue. And so what it falls to
• 51:14
  Speaker 10: to me is what the players do on their own,
• 51:18
  Speaker 10: because that is the great unknown, Like we have no
• 51:21
  Speaker 10: idea how much film study they do on their own
• 51:24
  Speaker 10: after practice they get together with the other players and
• 51:29
  Speaker 10: who's holding them accountable to that? And to me, I
• 51:32
  Speaker 10: think that's kind of where Jerry comes back into play.
• 51:36
  Speaker 10: And it's not the talent acquisition part, because I think
• 51:39
  Speaker 10: he does well there, but I think by kind of
• 51:43
  Speaker 10: not giving the head coach more ability to discipline players,
• 51:49
  Speaker 10: I think that's where we're lacking because rarely do you
• 51:53
  Speaker 10: see any of our players get benched. You don't see
• 51:57
  Speaker 10: Sam Williams get benched off the punt return on team,
• 52:02
  Speaker 10: so you don't. And somebody recently said a story about
• 52:06
  Speaker 10: Felix Jones back when he fumbled and many times in
• 52:10
  Speaker 10: Garrett said there was going to be consequences, and then
• 52:13
  Speaker 10: they asked Jerry about it and he said, no, he's
• 52:15
  Speaker 10: going to be starting. So it's like when you have
• 52:17
  Speaker 10: that where your coach can't discipline when he sees problems
• 52:22
  Speaker 10: on the team. I think that's where, like you know,
• 52:25
  Speaker 10: you look at certain players like Sean Lee and he
• 52:28
  Speaker 10: obviously did all the film study on his own, and
• 52:32
  Speaker 10: you could see that show up on the field today's team.
• 52:36
  Speaker 10: I see that with de Marcus Lawrence. I can see
• 52:39
  Speaker 10: him doing that, But other players I don't see that
• 52:43
  Speaker 10: showing up. And obviously, you know, we have no way
• 52:46
  Speaker 10: of knowing how much they're studying on the side, But
• 52:48
  Speaker 10: it seems like that to me is where we're lacking
• 52:52
  Speaker 10: the most. And I don't know how you quantify that
• 52:54
  Speaker 10: or how you make that better other than giving the
• 52:58
  Speaker 10: head coach who sees, you know, see everything more ability
• 53:02
  Speaker 10: to discipline the players and and hold them accountable.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that I mean, that's that's kind of going
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: down a line that it is hard to quantify. Like
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: you said, but I'm not going to tell you that
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: you're wrong because I wouldn't know. And you're right, you're
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: trying trying to put your finger on something, and that's,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: you know, and that's I actually appreciate that because it
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: doesn't look like you know, it's it's just coaching and
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: the players that you know good enough all that, Like
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: what else is there, and so maybe that could be
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: the case. It really, it really could be. I I
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: I don't have a great answer for you. I I like,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: like I said, I like, I like where where you're
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: going with that? And uh, and we don't know, we
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: don't know who's studying what here and there. But you know,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Sean Lee. It's a good example, but it's also a
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: bad example because there's not many like Shawn Lee. Because
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Sean Lee, I'll tell you the story about him. I
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: tried to do an interview with him about something right
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: before his first game. It was on the train going
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: to San Diego, and he wanted no part of it
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: because it was a preseason game. He was focused hit
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: his book out, he was studying. He was all about this,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: these twelve snaps that he's going to play in this
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: preseason game. It was all about business. He was that
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: way from the start, and I'm telling you that's it's
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: not like he got that later on in his career
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: when he realized, man, I gotta be more of a studier.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: He was that way coming in. So that's a good example.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, there is not many likes
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Sean Lee. So you would have hoped that some of
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: these younger players kind of would have, you know, developed
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: those skills a little bit more. But I don't know
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: if they are honestly all right, Oh sorry, still there.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: What's up, Joe? Joe? I cut them off? Cut him off? Okay,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: sorry Joe. It was a good It was really good
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: thought it really it really is. Those are those things,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: you know. I always get a little let's get a
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: lancy when we talk about we need more leadership, or
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: you need more heart, you need more character anymore. It's
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: hard because it's like, what's the level? You know, you
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: don't know that. You know, people people thinking Mari Cooper
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: doesn't care about football because it's not. He's not Odell
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Beckham and c d and whoever else, you know, jumping
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: around after plays and doing all that. He's just he's
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: not doesn't mean he doesn't love football. So it's hard
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: to kind of talk about what kind of person they are.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: You know, I just watched a football life on Barry Sanders.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: He never did that at all. It was a pretty good,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: pretty good player. But anyways, all right, let's go to
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Eric in North Carolina, probably our last call for the day.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Eric or North Carolina.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Hey, Nick, How are you doing today?
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Good? How are you?
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Since it's the off season, I thought
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: we could talk about Cowboys memorabilia. And I know this
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: show is almost over, but I'd love to hear the
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: usual callers maybe call it next time and tell us, like, well,
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: like what kind of cool stuff that they have?
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: What do you have?
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: But I've got three things that that I'm really thrilled about.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: I have a personalized autographed football from Roger Staubach.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: And and I have a I have a letter from
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Tom Landry that that uh. I write him a letter
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: in the eighties when the Cowboys were having a particularly
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: poor season, and and I told him, and I told
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: him that he was a outstanding coach, a fine Christian
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: gentleman in a World War Two hero. And he wrote
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: me back and it told and he told me that
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: he really that I really bolstered his morale was his
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: exact words.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: How old were you when you sent this?
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: I was in high school.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Wow. Good for you. I think that's pretty awesome.
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I always looked up to him. He was he
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: was so consistent and and I always I always read
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: about the players that retired, how much they admired him,
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: and he was such a father figure and meant so
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: much to him, you know, uh, you know, meant so
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: much to them, but they didn't really say it like
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: during the play in days like afterwards, you know, when
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: they had time to reflect. But but I always thought
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: he was an out outstanding an outstanding man.
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: And I know he he saved.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: His bomber crew. I know he was a co pilot
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: and a B seventeen liberator, and and I know that
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: he saved his crew one time from just from all.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: I remember reading in a book that that that the
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: pilot had ordered the crew to bail out, and basically
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Tom said, let me do one more thing, and he
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: changed the mixture, the fuel oil mixture, and that saved
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: him from from having to bail out over Germany. So anyway,
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: and the last thing I have is, uh is a
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: autograph Dallas Cowboy Weekly from Ken Norton Junior one time
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: when he came to Charlotte.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, well yeah, that's pretty that's pretty awesome. I don't
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: think anybody really wants to uh call in and talk
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: with you about these things, because I don't know if
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: they're going to have a letter from Tom Landry and
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: an autographed ball from Roger Staubach now the Ken King
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Norton Jr. You know, no offense to to you know, Ken,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: but I mean, uh, you know a little bit of
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: a drop off from the letter about Tom Landrye're the
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: greatest coach of all time, saying you boosted his morale,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: which I think which probably boosted yours forever.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: It really has, because sometimes I forget I have it awesome.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Don't lose it, Okay, go through stuff. Don't please, don't
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: lose your autographed memorabilia from a player. Only an idiot
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: with do that, speaking from experience. So yeah, yeah, my dad,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I'll tell you a story. My dad,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: he would traveled a lot, and he got an autograph
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: of Tony Dorset, who was my great was my favorite
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: player of all time. I was probably like nine years old,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: maybe ten, and he got his autographs, one of those
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: black and white photos you know, with pose and all that,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: and it said to Nick take my place in nineteen
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: ninety eight. So they did the math on how I
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: would be old. I would twenty two or whatever, you know,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: you know, little scrawny kid at the time. I mean,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be a running back in the NFL. Okay, sorry,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not Christian McCaffrey, but you know, and but you
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: know the ironic part of that is I was an
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: intern for the Cowboys in nineteen ninety eight. So I
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: didn't take his place. I didn't take Tony over Set's place.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: But I worked for the Cowboys. Little kid in Oklahoma
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: worked for the Cowboys in nineteen ninety eight. And I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: don't have that picture anymore. I don't know where it went,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: and I might, yeah, I might get emotional thinking about that.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: But don't don't forget. Don't lose your stuff like that,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: because I didn't forget about it. But I wish I
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: had that because how sentimental that would be for me
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: to have that. But yeah, that that's a cool kind
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: I'd like that. That might be our next theme of
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: when people when fans call in, like what do you have?
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: You know what? That's because you don't have to live
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: and you can live anywhere and collect some cool stuff
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: like that. So great, great concept there. I like that.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: So hard to.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: Beat, though, I do you have a letter from uh
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: from tech Shram as well. But but the Tom Andrew
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: one and the Rogers sawback football are definitely the yeah
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: the highlight.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely for sure. So all right, Eric, that's good stuff.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Good call. Appreciate that. All Right, we are gonna I
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: said we were gonna. That was gonna be the last one.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: We're gonna take Zach in Germany. We're gonna We're going
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: to Germany, Zach. What's up?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 9: What's gonna do?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you good?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 9: Good? How's the calf holding up?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: The calf? It's holding out? Yeah, thanks for asking. It's
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: only I only heard it five years ago. But that's
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: what happens when you're a non athlete. It just it
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't really heal very well. But yeah, thanks for asking here.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, no, no problem. It was just that soccer
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: practice tweaked mind, that thought of you. So yeah, Well anyway.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Are you over forty? Are you over forty?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 9: No? I'm thirty seven, okay, but I feel like I'm
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 9: forty seven.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I get it? Well, can can you just don't be
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: an idiot and don't keep running on it like I did?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Just stay off of it. You're fine. You'll miss a
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: game or two, but you can't be messing around with
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: a calf like that. Man.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 9: Sure, No, but I'll tell you what. If I was
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 9: looking at the schedule and if the Panthers come out
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 9: here and the Cowboys happen to join them for another
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 9: overseas one which we're due for, Yeah, I'll tell you
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 9: what I will. I would like to be your ringer
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 9: and run the forty against Isaiah if he comes out.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, as I was.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 9: Listening, I was listening a couple months ago and he
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 9: said he was bringing the smoke to every every show.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 9: So I know you're a solo show, but you know what,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 9: I'll step in if you need me. If you guys
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 9: come out this way.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: All right, that'll be uh, that'll be interesting. Where we're
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: kind of looking at that thinking maybe, you know, maybe
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: if Carolina needs a need somebody, I mean, I'm sorry,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: but the NFL is gonna need somebody other than the
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Panthers to go to Germany.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 11: Uh.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: If that's a shot at the Panthers, sorry, I mean,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I mean you lived there. You see a
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: lot of Panthers jerseys walking around. No, no, well, now
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: I went to.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 9: I did go to the game back at fourteen when
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 9: you guys went to London. That's all every jersey.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, that was that was a fun game.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: That was fun walking to the stadium and like, all right,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: let's play the game here. First one to find a
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Bucks jersey and you're like, oh yeah, you're like sap,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: you know, you can find it, you find it. Yeah,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty cool. Yeah, that's pretty neat.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah it was.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 9: It was a good time, good time. On a more
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 9: serious note, I wanted to kind of go over some
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 9: of the ideologies I think from our front offices standpoint
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 9: that might need to change. Right so when you're looking
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 9: at some things and were you guys were discussing it
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 9: not too long ago. The ideology right now is we're
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 9: going to focus on draft first, sign our own and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 9: build in, which works to some degree, but it hasn't
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 9: really worked for us lately. And if you look at
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 9: some of the mistakes that we've made this last draft class,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 9: we didn't get a lot of production out of and
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 9: I get you know, we had some high hopes for
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 9: the third round of there and towards a cl and
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 9: you know, Pozzie, you know, unfortunately didn't produce. But you know,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 9: some of the other trades they're good, like the fifth
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 9: rounders that fill in and you you're right, I think
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 9: we need to make a bigger splast. The problem is
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 9: is we've put ourselves in a position with looking at
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 9: Dak's current contract, we kicked that can too far down
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 9: the road that you know, he has all the leverage
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 9: and it's going to be really difficult to make the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 9: moves that you were discussing to go sign a big
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 9: free agent. We might have a little cap space to
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 9: do it, but you're also looking at you know, what
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 9: did we do with Amar? Right, so we trade it first,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 9: we have the guy for three years, and then you
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 9: turn around and you try to flip him for a fit.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 9: You get nothing back on it. And you know, I'm
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 9: looking at other teams around the league. There's four teams
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 9: that I think have made some big moves, and the
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 9: Cowboys we've wanted to stay relevant, which is good, right,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 9: And I think we've had a good teams and you're
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 9: trying to build around that. But at the same time,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 9: I think we have to change part of the philosophy too.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 9: That look what happened with Tampa when they brought him
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 9: and Brady and brought on those vets. The Rams did
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 9: something very similar not too long ago. When they brought
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 9: in Stafford and some of those guys. Two other teams
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 9: that actually made the Super Bowl and weren't afraid to
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 9: blow it up was Philly and San Francisco, Right, both
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 9: of those teams, they got there and they said, hey,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 9: Jimmy G's not good enough. We're gonna We're gonna go
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 9: back to the to the well. Now, they didn't hit
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 9: on Trey Lance, but they did get lucky with you know,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 9: their next guy. You look at Philly, Philly gets there
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 9: with Foles and and they try to do it once.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 9: The next year they say, hey, this isn't enough. We're
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 9: going to go and draft the guy, you know, and
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 9: they rebuild that way. Do you think that's something that
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 9: I think us as fans are looking at saying something
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 9: has to change. I know, next year it's probably not
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 9: going to be likely looking at the contract situation and
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 9: they're trying to run it back with the coaching staff.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 9: But do you think that maybe sometimes you got to
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 9: jump in the deep end and make a change. You
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 9: think that's something that we would be willing to do
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 9: in the future.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's going to be Thanks for the calls.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Appreciate that, and like I said with the caller that
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: we had from from Russia. Thank you for you know,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: obviously the dedication it takes to be a cowboy fan
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: long distance. Tough to be cowboy fan anywhere, you know
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: right now. But when you know you have some much
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: disappointment like that. But sorry guys, dealing with like a
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: six year cough here. I think that blowing it up.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: It all comes down to the quarterback. You know, it
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: comes down to that contract, and I think that will
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: be the sign of what they do. And you know,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: I know that Jerry was asked probably like twenty times
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: here today, different reporters trying to ask about contracts, and
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: he's just not budget on it, not giving a whole
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: lot of what they're gonna do with Dak. I think
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: that's gonna say, kind of be the determining factor on
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: anything on what they do moving forward or going backwards
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: or starting over or whatever. So if they don't restructure him,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: then this is gonna be kind of a you know,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: this is it put all the eggs in next year's basket.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Same with McCarthy saying with DK, but I don't think
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: that you're gonna see them just kind of blow it up.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: I just don't see that happening for this team, all right,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: struggling here at the end. I gotta get through. Great,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: great show for everybody, for Chris being I'm Nick Eatman.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: We will see you Thursday, different time, twelve thirty. Darren
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Woodson's gonna be joining us, so that's why we're moving
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: up to twelve thirty. We will see you then on
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Cowboys Storyline.
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