Latest / Murder Files Unsealed / Disappearance of Dee Ann Warner
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- 0:00Speaker 1: It is Friday, January sixteenth, twenty twenty six. Usually, when
- 0:04we sit down and do a deep dive, we have
- 0:06the luxury of hindsight. We're looking back at an event
- 0:09that's well, that's finished, sealed and historically settled.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Today is different.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Today, we don't have that luxury at all. We are
- 0:16effectively watching the clock run down in real time.
- 0:19Speaker 2: We absolutely are, because in exactly eleven days, that's January
- 0:23twenty seventh, jury selection begins in Lenowee County, Michigan, and frankly,
- 0:28the community there, the family, they've been holding their breath
- 0:31for nearly five years.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Now we're looking at the case of Diane Warner, and
- 0:35you know, just looking at the surface of the research
- 0:37you've pulled together, this starts out looking like a pretty
- 0:41standard tragic disappearance.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Profile, right, a woman vanishes from her home in April
- 0:46twenty twenty one.
- 0:47Speaker 1: But the trajectory of this case is, I mean, it's
- 0:49so unusual. It goes from a missing person file to
- 0:51a rare nobody murder charge and then just when the
- 0:54legal system is gearing up to try a case without remains,
- 0:57everything changes.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Everything changes because of a discovery that I think redefines
- 1:03the term cold blooded. We aren't talking about a shallow
- 1:06grave in the woods or a body submerged in the lake.
- 1:09We are talking about what the family themselves have termed
- 1:12a steel tomb. And to really understand what's about to
- 1:15happen in that courtroom later this month, you have to
- 1:18understand the mechanics of that tomb. It wasn't just a
- 1:21hiding spot. It was it was an engineered prison hidden
- 1:25in plain sight.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Okay, So our mission today is to prep for this trial.
- 1:30We need to parse the timeline, the specific forensic evidence,
- 1:33especially regarding this steel tomb, and the legal strategy that's
- 1:37likely going to play out.
- 1:38Speaker 2: And we've got a massive stack of sources to work with.
- 1:41There are court records, family statements going back the last
- 1:44five years, those huge wrongful death filings from twenty twenty five,
- 1:48and of course all the investigative reports that led up
- 1:50to this moment.
- 1:51Speaker 1: And I think we need to start with the victim
- 1:53because so often in domestic cases, there's a stereotypical profile
- 1:56that the public expects someone who is maybe isolated, financially dependent,
- 2:01or passive, and.
- 2:02Speaker 2: Dianne Warner breaks that mold completely.
- 2:05Speaker 1: She was the CEO. Essentially she really was.
- 2:08Speaker 2: At fifty two years old, Dianne was a powerhouse in
- 2:11the Franklin Township agricultural community. I mean she ran a
- 2:15highly successful trucking business.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Trucking business, yes, and.
- 2:18Speaker 2: She managed extensive farming operations in the Irish Hills area.
- 2:23This is heavy industry we're talking about. It's logistics, managing drivers,
- 2:27dealing with heavy machinery, navigating the sheer complexities of agricultural commerce.
- 2:32She was not a passive.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Person right Her daughter Wrickleback and her brother Greg Hardy,
- 2:39they describe her as vibrant and the life of the party.
- 2:42But the word that keeps coming up again and again
- 2:44in these statements is tough. You have to be You
- 2:47have to be tough to run a trucking company in
- 2:49that part of the world. She was described as a
- 2:51woman who would literally move mountains for her five children, and.
- 2:54Speaker 2: That context is absolutely crucial for understanding the power dynamics here.
- 2:58Danne was fiercely in dependent. She was financially successful. This
- 3:02complicates the whole control dynamic well. When an abuser wants
- 3:06to control someone who is naturally dominant and resourceful, the
- 3:10methods of control often have to escalate, they have to
- 3:12be more invasive, more extreme, because the victim isn't easily cowed.
- 3:17You can't just shout them into submission.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Which makes the dynamics of her marriage to Dale John
- 3:23Warner an incredibly important starting point. They married in August
- 3:27two thousand and six, so at the time she disappeared,
- 3:30they'd been married for almost fifteen years.
- 3:32Speaker 2: And from the outside, if you were just looking at
- 3:34the business filings, this looks like a merger as much
- 3:37as a marriage. A business partnership, a very transactional one.
- 3:40They were partners in business, absolutely, they share the trucking
- 3:43and farming interests. But the family's allegations, specifically in that
- 3:48huge one hundred million dollar wrongful death lawsuit filed back
- 3:52in May twenty twenty five, they paint a picture of
- 3:55a relationship that had completely hollowed out.
- 3:57Speaker 1: All business, no personal connections.
- 3:59Speaker 2: The romance, the alleged, was long gone. It was replaced
- 4:02by surveillance in control.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Now, when you say surveillance, are we talking about like
- 4:05checking text messages or something more Oh.
- 4:09Speaker 2: We are talking about something much more invasive. We're talking
- 4:12about tracking devices on vehicles. The lawsuit alleges Dale was
- 4:16actively tracking her movements. Wow, and you have to think
- 4:20about what that is. That is a very specific type
- 4:23of psychological warfare. It completely removes the victim's autonomy. You're
- 4:28never really alone if you know your car's reporting your
- 4:30location back to someone.
- 4:31Speaker 1: Every trip to the grocery store, every visit to a friend,
- 4:35it's all being logged.
- 4:36Speaker 2: It's constant monitoring. And the physical escalation, according to these documents,
- 4:40was already there too.
- 4:41Speaker 1: It wasn't just psychological.
- 4:42Speaker 2: No, there's a specific incident sided from December twenty twenty.
- 4:46This is just about four months before she vanished. The
- 4:49allegation is that Dale threw her into addresser and used
- 4:54some very derogatory language. This wasn't just a bad argument,
- 4:57this was alleged physical assault.
- 4:59Speaker 1: And this is where that profile of the strong female
- 5:02business owner just collides with the brutal reality of domestic abuse.
- 5:06Being a CEO doesn't immunize you from violence at home.
- 5:09Speaker 2: If anything, it can make the act of leaving more volatile.
- 5:14Dianne had her own assets, she had her independence, and
- 5:17the evidence strongly suggests she was activating an exit plan.
- 5:20Speaker 1: She wasn't just thinking about leaving, she was doing it.
- 5:23Speaker 2: She was executing a strategy. She was actively looking at
- 5:26real estate, specifically purchasing a lake house that was intended
- 5:30to be a safe haven for her and escape. And
- 5:33most critically, she had packed a go bag.
- 5:36Speaker 1: I want to pause on the go bag for a second,
- 5:38because to me, that signals something incredibly specific about her
- 5:42state of mind. You don't pack a bag with just
- 5:44your sentils because you're annoyed with your spouse. Now you
- 5:48pack it because you think you might have to run
- 5:50for your life.
- 5:50Speaker 2: It indicates premeditated fear. That's exactly the right way to
- 5:53put it. I means she was living in a state
- 5:55of hypervigilance. She anticipated a moment where she would not
- 5:59have five minutes to gather a toothbrush, or a change
- 6:01of clothes or her documents. She needed to be ready
- 6:04to walk out that door in seconds.
- 6:06Speaker 1: And that context is absolutely vital for understanding the timeline
- 6:10of April twenty twenty one. She wasn't a woman who
- 6:13was just casually dissatisfied with her marriage.
- 6:15Speaker 2: No, she is a woman preparing for a very dangerous exit.
- 6:19Speaker 1: So let's reconstruct that weekend April twenty fourth and twenty fifth,
- 6:22twenty twenty one, This is the timeline that the prosecution
- 6:26will likely have up on a giant scream for the
- 6:29jury in what eleven days.
- 6:31Speaker 2: It begins Saturday morning, April twenty fourth, and Dianne makes
- 6:35a very calculated move. She takes her youngest daughter, who
- 6:38was around nine or ten at the time, and she
- 6:40drops her off at her friend's house.
- 6:42Speaker 1: She clears the deck.
- 6:42Speaker 2: She cleared the deck. She wants the child out of
- 6:44the splash.
- 6:45Speaker 1: Songe right. She knows something is coming exactly.
- 6:48Speaker 2: She intends to have a serious confrontation with Dale, and
- 6:51she wants to ensure the child isn't a witness to
- 6:53it or God forbid, caught in the middle. And witnesses
- 6:56confirmed this conversation, this confrontation, it happened. They describe a
- 7:01very heated argument that Saturday. It involved d It involved Dale,
- 7:05and it even involved some of the trucking employees, and
- 7:07it was about everything the business, business finances, and also
- 7:11suspicions of infidelity. So it was a clash on all fronts, personal, financial,
- 7:15and professional. The whole thing was coming to a head.
- 7:18Speaker 1: And that Saturday evening is the last time anyone physically
- 7:21sees her alive.
- 7:22Speaker 2: That's the last confirmed sighting.
- 7:24Speaker 1: The digital footprint her phone that stops the next morning.
- 7:27Speaker 2: Rect correct Sunday, April twenty fifth, her phone pings at
- 7:31their home on Munger Road, and he keeps pinging there
- 7:34until seven fourteen am. Then it just goes dark. Nothing,
- 7:40It ceases all activity, no calls, no text, no data.
- 7:43It's just gone. And this is where we have to
- 7:46look very closely at Dale's narrative versus the physical reality
- 7:50of the scene.
- 7:51Speaker 1: So Dale claims he saw her that morning.
- 7:52Speaker 2: He does. He claims he gave her a massage Saturday night,
- 7:55which you know, is an interesting detail given that witnesses
- 7:58describe a massive fight happening just hours earlier.
- 8:01Speaker 1: A very odd detail.
- 8:02Speaker 2: And he says that on Sunday morning, around six p am,
- 8:05she was sleeping on the couch. He then says she
- 8:07left the house to cool off.
- 8:09Speaker 1: Cooling off in rural Michigan usually involves a drive. You
- 8:12aren't just walking to the local coffee shop in Franklin Township.
- 8:15Speaker 2: And that is the absolute smoking gun. In the initial investigation,
- 8:19her vehicles, a Hummer and a Catallac Escalade, were both
- 8:22sitting right there in the driveway.
- 8:24Speaker 1: So his story requires us to believe she just what
- 8:27walked off into the cornfields at dawn.
- 8:29Speaker 2: Well, it gets even more contradictory. Yeah, because Dale pointed
- 8:32out to investigators and to the family that certain items
- 8:36of hers were missing. What was missing her curling iron,
- 8:39her makeup bag, her purse, and that all important go bag.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Ah. So he used that to support his story exactly.
- 8:47Speaker 2: He's essential of saying, look, she packed up and left me.
- 8:50He's trying to build a narrative of a voluntary departure.
- 8:52Speaker 1: But that logic just completely eats itself. I mean, she
- 8:55meticulously packed her curling iron but left the hummer. It
- 8:58makes no sense.
- 8:59Speaker 2: It's a very selective narrative. It tries to explain her
- 9:02absence by pointing to these few missing personal items while
- 9:06completely ignoring the logistical impossibility of her transport. In rural America,
- 9:12your car is your legs, it's your freedom.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Leaving both vehicles behind is essentially an admission that she
- 9:18didn't leave voluntarily.
- 9:19Speaker 2: And on top of that, security footage from the home
- 9:22allegedly showed no sign of her leaving the premises on
- 9:25foot or with anyone else. The cameras didn't see her go.
- 9:29Speaker 1: So Sunday morning rolls around. It's nine zero zero am,
- 9:33and for this family, this was a ritual time.
- 9:36Speaker 2: It was rickle Bach. Her daughter arrives for their weekly
- 9:39Sunday breakfast. She walks in, expecting to see her mom
- 9:42and finds the house completely empty.
- 9:45Speaker 1: No ded and the family immediately starts looking.
- 9:47Speaker 2: Immediately, they start searching the property, calling her phone. And
- 9:50this is where the behavioral analysis from the family becomes
- 9:53so important. They noticed Dale's demeanor right away.
- 9:56Speaker 1: He wasn't frantic, he wasn't worried.
- 9:58Speaker 2: No family members noted he he appeared calm, almost resigned.
- 10:03He immediately started suggesting that she had just run off
- 10:06with another man. A deflection, a total deflection. Oh she's
- 10:09just gone. It's a very very passive reaction for a
- 10:12husband whose wife has just vanished into thin air without
- 10:15her cars.
- 10:16Speaker 1: The family obviously didn't buy it for a second, and
- 10:18they didn't just wait for the police to connect the dots.
- 10:20They went private, and that was a.
- 10:22Speaker 2: Game changing decision. They hired Billy Little, a private investigator,
- 10:27and I think it's fair to say that Billy Little
- 10:29is a major reason we're talking about a trial in
- 10:31twenty twenty six and not a dusty cold case file.
- 10:33Speaker 1: Okay, explain the difference there. What could a PI like
- 10:37Billy Little do that the police couldn't or wouldn't at
- 10:41that stage.
- 10:42Speaker 2: It's not just about what he could do, it's about
- 10:44his starting hypothesis. Police, you know, they often have to
- 10:47follow a very strict protocol Ladder. You start with the
- 10:51missing person's report, you have to rule out voluntary disappearance,
- 10:54You check hospitals.
- 10:55Speaker 1: It's a process.
- 10:56Speaker 2: It's a slow, methodical process. Billy Little entered the scene,
- 11:00started treating this as a domestic homicide investigation almost immediately.
- 11:04He was operating under the assumption of foul play from
- 11:06day one.
- 11:06Speaker 1: So he's working a different angle entirely, a much.
- 11:09Speaker 2: More aggressive angle. He was out there preserving potential evidence,
- 11:12reinterviewing witnesses, documenting the scene and the property, all while
- 11:16the official investigation was still in its early stages. He
- 11:20kept the public pressure.
- 11:21Speaker 1: High vigils, billboards.
- 11:23Speaker 2: A fifty thousand dollars reward the family. With his help,
- 11:28made sure nobody in Lenowie County could forget that d
- 11:31Warner was.
- 11:31Speaker 1: Missing, and that pressure eventually led the Michigan State Police
- 11:35to take over as the lead agency. In August of
- 11:37twenty twenty.
- 11:38Speaker 2: Three, and once they took over things started moving much
- 11:40more quickly. That external pressure paid off. They arrested Dale
- 11:45Warner on November twenty first to twenty twenty three.
- 11:47Speaker 1: At that point they still didn't have her, they still
- 11:49hadn't found d.
- 11:50Speaker 2: Correct They charged him with open murder and tampering with
- 11:54evidence entirely without.
- 11:55Speaker 1: A body, which is legally the everest of prosecution. We've
- 11:59talked about nobody cases before on this deep dive, and.
- 12:01Speaker 2: It bears repeating how incredibly difficult they are to win.
- 12:05You have to prove corpus tliktai the body of the
- 12:09crime without the actual body. The defense has a powerful
- 12:13built in argument, which is she just ran away. She's
- 12:15in Mexico, she got tired of her life, and she's
- 12:17starting over somewhere new. Prove she isn't. The burden of
- 12:21proof on the prosecution is just massive. You have to
- 12:24prove that the only reasonable explanation for her absence is death.
- 12:28Speaker 1: And yet, even without a body, the circumstantial evidence was
- 12:31so strong that a judge bounded over for.
- 12:33Speaker 2: Trial overwhelmingly strong. And then in March twenty twenty four
- 12:37came another huge legal step. Probate Judge Catherine A. Salah
- 12:43officially declared d legally dead.
- 12:45Speaker 1: So the civil court system was already moving on this yes, and.
- 12:48Speaker 2: That ruling was crucial. It wasn't a criminal finding, but
- 12:52it validated the circumstantial case. The judge cited the sudden
- 12:56cessation of all phone activity, the fact that she ignored
- 12:59all her asps, sets, the documented history of abuse, and
- 13:03of course the fact that Dale was the primary beneficiary
- 13:05of her estate.
- 13:06Speaker 1: It put an official stamp on what the family already
- 13:08knew it did.
- 13:10Speaker 2: But everyone involved, from the prosecution to the family, they
- 13:13were all operating under one assumption.
- 13:15Speaker 1: That she was gone, disposed of somewhere far away right.
- 13:19Speaker 2: The assumption in these cases is usually distance. The killer
- 13:22moves the body to a lake, remote forest, a gravel pit,
- 13:25somewhere completely disassociated from themselves to try and break that
- 13:28forensic link.
- 13:29Speaker 1: Dale learned to the opposite, the exact opposite. August twenty,
- 13:32twenty four, eight hundred and fifty five days after she vanished.
- 13:37Where did they finally find her?
- 13:38Speaker 2: On his property on Paragon Road, inside a barn stored
- 13:43within an anhydrous ammonia tank.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Okay, for the listener who isn't familiar with agricultural chemistry
- 13:47or heavy farm equipment, can you explain what an anhydrous
- 13:51tank is because this isn't just like a plastic barrel.
- 13:54Speaker 2: No, not at all. And hydrous ammonia is a nitrogen fertilizer. Okay,
- 13:59it stored as a liquid, but it's under incredibly high pressure.
- 14:02So these tanks are heavy gauge steel vessels. They're built
- 14:06like well, like tombs. They're designed to withstand massive internal
- 14:10pounds per square inch of pressure.
- 14:12Speaker 1: You see them on farms all the time.
- 14:13Speaker 2: All the time, big white cylindrical tanks, often on trailers.
- 14:17They're a completely ubiquitous part of that landscape. You'd see
- 14:20one and not think twice.
- 14:21Speaker 1: So you can't just pop the lid off and put
- 14:23something inside.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Absolutely impossible. It's a sealed pressure vessel. And this this
- 14:28is the detail that will likely be the centerpiece of
- 14:30the prosecution's opening statement in eleven days. The tank had
- 14:34been tampered with in a very specific, very deliberate way.
- 14:38It had been cut open, a section of the seal
- 14:40was removed, the body was placed inside, and then it
- 14:44was welded shut, welded, welded, and not an amateur job either.
- 14:48The reports indicate the welds were then sand down to
- 14:51be flushed with the original metal.
- 14:52Speaker 1: To hide the seam precisely.
- 14:55Speaker 2: The tank was then repainted to mask the heat marks
- 14:58from the torch and the fresh metal. And then, and
- 15:01this is the real psychological kicker, it was labeled.
- 15:04Speaker 1: Do not use, do not use.
- 15:06Speaker 2: It's a stroke of dark manipulative brilliance. Yeah, if you're
- 15:10a farm hand and you see a piece of equipment
- 15:11labeled broken or do not use, what do you do?
- 15:14Speaker 1: You leave it alone. You don't touch it, you.
- 15:16Speaker 2: Don't try to fill it, you don't mess with the valves.
- 15:18It becomes invisible furniture in the barn. It becomes part
- 15:21of the background clutter. And so it sat there, blending
- 15:24in with all the other equipment for nearly three years.
- 15:26Speaker 1: This required tools, It required time. You don't do this
- 15:29in a blind panic five minutes after a crime of passion.
- 15:32Speaker 2: This is exactly why I called it an engineered prison.
- 15:36It implies a cooling off period for the killer. Ironically enough,
- 15:40to execute this, you have to get the torch. You
- 15:42have to get the welder, you have to get the grinder,
- 15:44you have to get the paint.
- 15:45Speaker 1: It's a project.
- 15:45Speaker 2: It's a multi hour project. It moves the needle from
- 15:49any kind of manslaughter or crime of passion territory deep
- 15:53into first degree premeditation and cold calculated concealment.
- 15:57Speaker 1: And then psychologically, I mean keeping the body right there
- 16:00on the property. What does that say?
- 16:03Speaker 2: It speaks to a level of supreme arrogance or perhaps
- 16:06a deeply possessive, disturbing need for ultimate control. He kept
- 16:11her close. He likely walked past that tank every single.
- 16:14Speaker 1: Day for eight hundred and fifty five days.
- 16:16Speaker 2: For eight hundred and fifty five days, he worked in
- 16:18that barn. He existed an immediate proximity to the evidence
- 16:21of his crime, all while betting that his welding skills
- 16:23were good enough to fool absolutely everyone.
- 16:26Speaker 1: So how did they finally know to look inside that
- 16:28specific tank. You can't exactly X ray every single piece
- 16:32of steel on a multi acre farm.
- 16:34Speaker 2: It came from a tip that originated from a memory.
- 16:36A crucial memory was great Hearty Dee's brother.
- 16:39Speaker 1: The one who described her as tough.
- 16:41Speaker 2: That's him. He had a memory resurface. He recalled seeing
- 16:45Dale refurbishing an old, out of useed tank shortly after
- 16:49Dee's disappearance, he remembered seeing the welding equipment being moved
- 16:52around the barn.
- 16:53Speaker 1: But at the time it wouldn't have seemed strange, not
- 16:56at all.
- 16:56Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, it would have just looked like
- 16:57farm chores Dale's a farmer fixing a piece of equipment
- 17:01isn't weird. But years later, when you look at that
- 17:04same memory through the lens of a murder investigation where
- 17:07the body is inexplicably.
- 17:09Speaker 1: Missing, that memory takes on a very sinister shape.
- 17:12Speaker 2: It becomes the key. The family passed that information to
- 17:15the investigators and it gave them the probable cause they needed, so.
- 17:19Speaker 1: They execute the surcharrant in August twenty twenty four, They
- 17:21bring in the equipment, they cut the tank.
- 17:23Speaker 2: Open, and on August twenty four, twenty twenty four, the
- 17:26Jackson County Medical Examiner confirmed it was Dianne Warner, identified
- 17:31via her dental records.
- 17:32Speaker 1: And it was Greg Hardy who coined that phrase, right,
- 17:34steel tomb.
- 17:35Speaker 2: He did, and it's a perfect horrific description. It wasn't
- 17:39a grave, it was a capsule a prison.
- 17:42Speaker 1: Okay, So let's fast forward to today. January sixteenth, twenty
- 17:46twenty six. The body has been found. The nobody problem
- 17:50that plagued the prosecution for years is now gone. What
- 17:54does this mean for the trial that starts on the
- 17:55twenty seventh.
- 17:56Speaker 2: It completely upends the entire defense strategy? Is it incinerates it?
- 18:01When you are defending a nobody case, your primary argument
- 18:05is to create reasonable doubt that she's even dead.
- 18:07Speaker 1: You argue she ran away.
- 18:08Speaker 2: You argue she ran away, she's living off the grid.
- 18:10She'll turn up someday. That entire defense is gone. We
- 18:13have the body, we know she's deceased. So now the
- 18:16defense has the impossible task of explaining how their client's
- 18:20wife ended up inside a welded steel tank on his
- 18:24property when he is known to have welding skills and
- 18:27was seen working on that very tank.
- 18:28Speaker 1: Can they argue that someone else did it? I mean,
- 18:30the classic defense is to point to an intruder, an
- 18:33unknown third party, But.
- 18:34Speaker 2: Just think about the logistics of that. And intruder breaks
- 18:36into the property, kills her, and then decides to what
- 18:39spend four or five hours in the barn cutting open
- 18:41a steel tank and.
- 18:42Speaker 1: Welding a shut without the husband noticing, Without.
- 18:45Speaker 2: The husband noticing without leaving any of their own forensic evidence,
- 18:49and for what reason why go to all that trouble.
- 18:52The steel tomb itself acts as a kind of fingerprint.
- 18:56It suggests the perpetrator had comfort, time and complete ownership
- 19:00of that space.
- 19:01Speaker 1: You don't do complex metal fabrication during a break in.
- 19:04Speaker 2: You absolutely do not. The act of concealment is in
- 19:07itself the strongest piece of evidence pointing to who had
- 19:10the means an opportunity.
- 19:11Speaker 1: And the trial is set for nine weeks.
- 19:13Speaker 2: That is a marathon, it is, and that tells you
- 19:17how much evidence the prosecution plans to present. And it's
- 19:20important to note that despite the defense's attempt to get
- 19:22a change of venue because of all the publicity citing
- 19:25what citing the national coverage from dateline from Disappeared and
- 19:29that People magazine investigates episode that just aired a few
- 19:32days ago. Despite all that, the judge kept the trial
- 19:35in Lanwy County.
- 19:36Speaker 1: So the community that knew Dn, the community that searched
- 19:39for her for years, is going to be the one
- 19:41judging this case.
- 19:42Speaker 2: They are the jury will be composed of her neighbors
- 19:45in a sense.
- 19:46Speaker 1: Now, there were charges against a step son as well,
- 19:48initially weren't there.
- 19:49Speaker 2: There were Jaron Warner. He was charged with tampering with
- 19:53evidence and accessory after the fact back in March of
- 19:56twenty twenty five, but those charges were dropped a couple
- 19:59of months later in May twenty twenty five.
- 20:02Speaker 1: Any reason given, not.
- 20:03Speaker 2: Officially, but you can surmise the strategy. It seems the
- 20:06prosecution has decided to focus all of their firepower directly
- 20:10on Dale. They are going to dilute the narrative or
- 20:13complicate things for the jury with a co defendant. At
- 20:16this stage, they have their target.
- 20:18Speaker 1: And that huge wrongful death lawsuit is still moving in
- 20:21the background.
- 20:21Speaker 2: Yes, that's the civil track running parallel to the criminal case.
- 20:25The pre trial for that is set for August to
- 20:27twenty twenty six. So even after this criminal trial wraps
- 20:31up in late March, the legal battles for a Warner
- 20:33estate aren't over, but the criminal trial is the main event.
- 20:37This is where liberty is at stake.
- 20:38Speaker 1: So as we head toward January twenty seventh, what is
- 20:41the single key thing listeners should watch for in the
- 20:44news reports coming out of that courtroom.
- 20:46Speaker 2: Watch the forensic testimony about the tank itself. I suspect.
- 20:50The prosecution is going to bring in metallurgists or professional
- 20:53welding experts to demonstrate for the jury exactly how much time, skill,
- 20:59and effort went into.
- 21:00Speaker 1: Sealing that tomb, to prove intent.
- 21:02Speaker 2: To prove premeditation and intent, you don't accidentally weld the
- 21:06tank shut. They will use that effort to show this
- 21:09was a cold, deliberate act of concealment. And they will
- 21:13also likely focus heavily on the timeline of that refurbishment
- 21:16that Greg.
- 21:17Speaker 1: Hardy witnessed, trying to pin it down.
- 21:19Speaker 2: If they can correlate the time Dale was seen working
- 21:21on that tank with the days immediately following Dee's disappearance,
- 21:24then that timeline becomes a noose for the defense.
- 21:27Speaker 1: It's such a grim, grim reality. But finding the steel
- 21:31tomb didn't just solve the mystery of where she was.
- 21:33It sounds like it may have sealed the fate of
- 21:35the case itself.
- 21:36Speaker 2: I think it did. It converted a very strong, circumstantial
- 21:39puzzle into a cold, hard, physical reality. It silenced that
- 21:43she ran away theory forever, and it forces a jury
- 21:46to look at a piece of farm equipment in a
- 21:48new light and to confront the incredible length some will
- 21:51go to to maintain control even after death.
- 21:54Speaker 1: We will definitely be watching closely as to reselection begins.
- 21:57This was a heavy deep dive, but a real, only
- 22:00necessary one to understand the legal storm that is about
- 22:03to break in Michigan.
- 22:04Speaker 2: It's going to be a long nine weeks for that
- 22:06family and for that community, but hopefully it finally ends
- 22:10with the answers and the justice they have been fighting
- 22:12for for so long.