Latest / The Late Debate / The Late Debate | 18 November
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome the late pay.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Well, good evening. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and
- 0:09Speaker 2: Caleb Bond coming up. Donald Trump receives the hero's welcome
- 0:12Speaker 2: at the UFC. Will show you that, plus how the
- 0:16Speaker 2: fighters react to the President elect. It's pretty good. When
- 0:19Speaker 2: we look at the papers, Allan Jones charged with historical
- 0:22Speaker 2: sex offenses and the Albenezy government. Can you believe this?
- 0:26Speaker 2: Looking at giving an extra Senate seat to the act
- 0:30Speaker 2: Lizen Caleb will later in the Federal Senate. We'll get
- 0:37Speaker 2: to that when we look at the papers. But first,
- 0:40Speaker 2: New South Wales residents have paid four billion dollars in
- 0:43Speaker 2: fines over the past five years now. Most of those
- 0:47Speaker 2: have been for things like speeding and I reckon. I've
- 0:49Speaker 2: probably contributed about half of that.
- 0:52Speaker 1: But it's not just how can you afford how can
- 0:55Speaker 1: you afford that? No?
- 0:57Speaker 3: Right, we are single handedly propping up this stape. Gee
- 1:00Speaker 3: Kyler gets no credit and he's proudly still at the
- 1:03Speaker 3: age of twenty five, never had a speeding fine back.
- 1:07Speaker 4: It's all you and me.
- 1:08Speaker 2: I can't believe that, Caleb at twenty five, you're not
- 1:10Speaker 2: even trying.
- 1:11Speaker 1: No, I just feed in places where I don't get
- 1:13Speaker 1: to get do. I want to know how you two
- 1:15Speaker 1: can both afford to punt up two billion dollars each.
- 1:18Speaker 1: I got to go and after a pay rise client.
- 1:20Speaker 2: We're on different contracts to plan.
- 1:23Speaker 4: This revenue Newtouth.
- 1:24Speaker 2: But let me get back to the point. That's mostly speeding.
- 1:27Speaker 2: That's filled government coffers. But the state government has raked
- 1:30Speaker 2: in more than four million dollars finding people for the
- 1:33Speaker 2: most innocuous things, things that you would be surprised to
- 1:37Speaker 2: learn are offenses. According to data from New South Wales
- 1:40Speaker 2: State Revenue, in the past five years, one person has
- 1:43Speaker 2: been fined two hundred and twenty dollars for climbing a
- 1:46Speaker 2: tree in a public park. Now I'm not a big
- 1:50Speaker 2: tree climber, but I did not know that that was
- 1:52Speaker 2: against the law.
- 1:53Speaker 4: Got to be hitting.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Eight people have been fined in the past five years
- 1:57Speaker 2: three hundred dollars each for playing an instrument too loudly.
- 2:01Speaker 2: Now I must point out on this one if it
- 2:03Speaker 2: relates to a primary school student with a recorder, I
- 2:06Speaker 2: reckon a three hundred dollar fine is letting them off lightly.
- 2:09Speaker 4: At firstly, that's not an instrument, YEA.
- 2:14Speaker 2: A thousand people over the last five years in New
- 2:17Speaker 2: South Wales have been fined one hundred and eighty dollars
- 2:19Speaker 2: apiece for walking a dog without a collar. But this
- 2:22Speaker 2: one I found fascinating. Six hundred and thirty people find
- 2:26Speaker 2: four hundred and ten dollars each for honking their horn inappropriately.
- 2:31Speaker 2: How else do you say goodbye to your grandmother other
- 2:33Speaker 2: than to two?
- 2:34Speaker 3: Now if this includes when you honk your horn to
- 2:38Speaker 3: say goodbye, like I remember as a kid, that was
- 2:41Speaker 3: just standard practice even and it was a lovely friendly
- 2:45Speaker 3: way to say hi or by if you're pulling in
- 2:48Speaker 3: or leaving, especially in a family outsize with mom, dad
- 2:51Speaker 3: and seven kids, so you always knew all mum's ear
- 2:53Speaker 3: with the groceries or whatever. Like they're literally ruining every
- 2:58Speaker 3: day wholesome family stuff.
- 3:01Speaker 2: That you just do that horn honking one The state
- 3:03Speaker 2: government raked in two hundred and twenty six thousand dollars
- 3:07Speaker 2: just from chasing down people for incorrect use of their
- 3:10Speaker 2: cartinal And.
- 3:11Speaker 1: This is what I can't get over. Yes, it is
- 3:13Speaker 1: an offense to use your horn in appropriately because it's
- 3:16Speaker 1: meant to be a warning device, right, but we all
- 3:18Speaker 1: know like a little honk to say goodbye. Does it
- 3:21Speaker 1: hurt anyone unless you're sitting around at midnight like I
- 3:24Speaker 1: when I go home, You know, if I decide to
- 3:26Speaker 1: sit in the drive wages, you know, comatose with my
- 3:29Speaker 1: head slumped on the horn, waking everyone in the neighborhood up.
- 3:33Speaker 1: Sure I deserve to be wrapped over the knuckles for that.
- 3:35Speaker 1: But what copper or three hundred and sixty of them,
- 3:39Speaker 1: or maybe it's just the one copper It just had
- 3:40Speaker 1: it in for horn honkers. What copper's going around going? Boy?
- 3:44Speaker 1: Are you just use your horning correctly? So you're now
- 3:47Speaker 1: going to get a four hundred and ten dollar fine.
- 3:49Speaker 1: And the other one that I cannot get over is
- 3:51Speaker 1: two three hundred people have been fined for either leaving
- 3:56Speaker 1: their car window down or not locking their hard doors.
- 4:01Speaker 1: That's your own stupid fault. I mean, if someone's going
- 4:04Speaker 1: to come along and pinch your car because you've left
- 4:07Speaker 1: the window open or left the doors unlocked, what did
- 4:10Speaker 1: you think was going to happen? Can you imagine the
- 4:12Speaker 1: copper coming and knocking on your doors? Excuse me, sir,
- 4:16Speaker 1: is that your vehicle parked out the front? Yes it is,
- 4:18Speaker 1: mister copper. Here is a fine, because you left the
- 4:21Speaker 1: door unlocked. How they even know that in the first.
- 4:27Speaker 3: She's trying it on but the windows down one. I
- 4:31Speaker 3: do that in summer, just for airflows, not climbing back
- 4:35Speaker 3: into a stifling car that's going to cook you alive.
- 4:38Speaker 3: I mean, it's not all the way down, but you'll
- 4:40Speaker 3: leave a good crack there, just being like, well, at
- 4:43Speaker 3: least the breeze is getting to it.
- 4:45Speaker 4: In my absence, I had no idea this is actually illegal.
- 4:50Speaker 4: Do me a fake.
- 4:51Speaker 2: I can't understand. You know, antiquated laws still being on
- 4:54Speaker 2: the books that just haven't been removed. But the thing
- 4:56Speaker 2: that amazed me is that these are being enforced in
- 4:59Speaker 2: New South Wales. That's the question, Liz. Do you think
- 5:01Speaker 2: we're being overregulated.
- 5:03Speaker 4: And none of it has to do with safety? Right?
- 5:06Speaker 3: Well? No, well maybe having a dog without a collar,
- 5:09Speaker 3: but even that, that's not having a dog just not
- 5:12Speaker 3: on a leash.
- 5:12Speaker 4: It's a dog on a leash without a collar. None
- 5:15Speaker 4: of it.
- 5:15Speaker 3: Really relates to actual safety issues. My hypothesis is that
- 5:21Speaker 3: we've just got too many public.
- 5:22Speaker 4: Servants trying to justify their jobs.
- 5:26Speaker 3: You probably saw this hair raising headline today. One in
- 5:31Speaker 3: five OSSI's employed in the public sector.
- 5:35Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? My goodness?
- 5:38Speaker 3: I mean, who would have thought that the situation was
- 5:41Speaker 3: that bad? People are now calling on the government, which
- 5:45Speaker 3: will never do this obviously for their own Department of
- 5:49Speaker 3: Government efficiency, which is a new Trump idea which has
- 5:53Speaker 3: got Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy heading up now saying
- 5:57Speaker 3: we're need an Australian one. If one in fives is
- 6:01Speaker 3: employed by the government, that's far too many. To America now,
- 6:04Speaker 3: where RFK Junior has made headlines today after being pictured
- 6:10Speaker 3: with the gang on a flight eating macam is, of
- 6:17Speaker 3: course known as the new US Health Secretary.
- 6:20Speaker 4: This guy is completely ripped.
- 6:22Speaker 3: He loves to do workout shirtless and post it online
- 6:26Speaker 3: just to prove how fit and fantastic he is. He's
- 6:29Speaker 3: had knives out for Big Farmer for a very long time,
- 6:33Speaker 3: and he preaches all sorts of wonderful sermons. In my
- 6:36Speaker 3: humble opinion, I think they're wonderful about how much Franklin
- 6:39Speaker 3: food is on the market, how much our food is
- 6:42Speaker 3: lacking in real nutrients in minerals, and how much rubbish
- 6:46Speaker 3: they put in all sorts of the packet food which
- 6:50Speaker 3: dominates our supermarket shelves. So of course this photo caused
- 6:54Speaker 3: an absolute uproar because here he is mister US's Health
- 6:58Speaker 3: secretary himself chomping down on Macs.
- 7:04Speaker 4: Very hilariously.
- 7:05Speaker 3: Trump Junior shared this to social media, this shot right
- 7:09Speaker 3: here saying make America Healthy again starts tomorrow, which I.
- 7:15Speaker 4: Thought was absolutely hilarious.
- 7:17Speaker 3: But I tell you who's not laughing is vaccine investors,
- 7:22Speaker 3: because one of the many things that mister RFK Junior
- 7:26Speaker 3: has his sights on is the safety and efficacy of vaccines.
- 7:31Speaker 4: Check out these.
- 7:32Speaker 3: Stock crashes for Maderna, Astrozeneca, Nova vas Fizer also took
- 7:39Speaker 3: a dive.
- 7:40Speaker 4: So it's quite interesting here.
- 7:42Speaker 3: Because we have the new US Health Secretary come out
- 7:46Speaker 3: and say we just want to make sure vaccines are
- 7:49Speaker 3: actually safe and called for, and the vaccine investors suddenly,
- 7:54Speaker 3: I know where to be seen.
- 7:55Speaker 4: The markets have spoken.
- 7:57Speaker 3: They don't seem to want to invest if they have
- 8:01Speaker 3: to face product liability. So I thought that was far
- 8:05Speaker 3: funnier than any pictures of RFK just having a cheeky
- 8:09Speaker 3: macsburgers with the new gang of the Trump administration. I
- 8:14Speaker 3: was like, you want to laugh about that? Check out
- 8:17Speaker 3: these stocks, mate, This is what I'm laughing about.
- 8:19Speaker 1: To look, if you're going to regulate something, you've got
- 8:21Speaker 1: to know what you're talking about, right, He's got to
- 8:23Speaker 1: have at least one big Mac in his life, so
- 8:25Speaker 1: he actually knows what he's going on about. And of
- 8:28Speaker 1: course you know he has. He said he's going to
- 8:30Speaker 1: go after chemicals in food. He's going after big farmer.
- 8:33Speaker 1: No surprise that the market would respond. And the way
- 8:37Speaker 1: in which a lot of people have responded to this
- 8:40Speaker 1: as though we some sort of crackpot and crazy has
- 8:43Speaker 1: been incredible, And the way they've tried to discredit him
- 8:46Speaker 1: is so bad. Now, this is really from the New
- 8:49Speaker 1: York Times, right, because one of the things, as I
- 8:51Speaker 1: said before, he is concerned about chemicals and preservatives in
- 8:56Speaker 1: pre prepared food that you buy at the supermarket, like
- 8:58Speaker 1: Liz was talking about. So The New York Times thought
- 9:01Speaker 1: it was worth doing a bit of fact checking about
- 9:03Speaker 1: how many of these chemicals are actually in the food
- 9:06Speaker 1: that Americans are eating. They say this, Mister Kennedy has
- 9:10Speaker 1: singled out fruit loops as an example of a product
- 9:13Speaker 1: with too many artificial ingredients, questioning why the Canadian version
- 9:17Speaker 1: has fewer than the US version, but he was wrong,
- 9:21Speaker 1: says The New York Times. The ingredient list is roughly
- 9:24Speaker 1: the same, although Canada's has natural colorings made from blueberries
- 9:28Speaker 1: and carrots, while the US product contains red day forty,
- 9:31Speaker 1: Yellow five and blue one, as well as beutilated hydroxy toollurina.
- 9:37Speaker 1: I don't know. I probably sell the time or BHT,
- 9:40Speaker 1: which is a much better My British just said, nice try,
- 9:42Speaker 1: and I agree with him. BHT is the better way
- 9:45Speaker 1: to say it. A lab made chemical that is used
- 9:48Speaker 1: for freshness quote unquote according to the ingredient label. So
- 9:51Speaker 1: the New York Times says that RFK Junior is wrong
- 9:54Speaker 1: in saying that there are more chemicals and our natural
- 9:58Speaker 1: products in American fruit loops than Canadian fruit loops, but
- 10:01Speaker 1: then explains that there are actually more unnatural chemicals and
- 10:04Speaker 1: products in American fruit loops. Well done on that, and
- 10:08Speaker 1: I have to give it to the babylon Bee as well, who,
- 10:10Speaker 1: as they so often do, just nailed this with this
- 10:13Speaker 1: headline fantas sickest country on Earth. Concerned that the new
- 10:16Speaker 1: health secretary might do something different, which is exactly what
- 10:21Speaker 1: we hope he will do. I mean, and this is
- 10:24Speaker 1: typical of the appointments that that Trump has made. He
- 10:26Speaker 1: wants to shake the joint up. He's sending in someone
- 10:30Speaker 1: who thinks differently from everyone else who works in government,
- 10:33Speaker 1: because that's what people voted for. That's why they voted
- 10:36Speaker 1: for Trump in twenty sixteen. That's why they voted for
- 10:38Speaker 1: him again because they've recognized that the system of government
- 10:41Speaker 1: isn't working right now. They want someone who does it differently.
- 10:44Speaker 2: I think what that New York Times story illustrated is
- 10:47Speaker 2: it's better for your health to eat fruit loops than
- 10:49Speaker 2: to consume the New York Times or most of the
- 10:53Speaker 2: left leaning mainstream media in the mind, I mean, their
- 10:57Speaker 2: pure sugar. They hate do Trump so much they have
- 11:01Speaker 2: reduced themselves to trying to defend fruit loops and having
- 11:05Speaker 2: a shot at people eating macas. I mean, he promised
- 11:07Speaker 2: to make America healthy, not miserable, and it's the first
- 11:10Speaker 2: I've heard that McDonald's is not healthy for you. But
- 11:13Speaker 2: I think we're going to have four years of this,
- 11:15Speaker 2: just watching the US mainstream left leaning media tie themselves
- 11:19Speaker 2: in knots, trying to make Trump and his appointees look foolish,
- 11:23Speaker 2: and in the process just discrediting themselves so you know
- 11:26Speaker 2: people are going to get upset about it. I think
- 11:28Speaker 2: we should all just sit back, enjoy some healthy popcorn
- 11:31Speaker 2: and watch the show, because they are going to go
- 11:33Speaker 2: with this NonStop. Trump hasn't even taken office yet.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and already, and he's lighting the fires which
- 11:39Speaker 1: we want him to light. That's what people have voted for.
- 11:41Speaker 1: And he's really such a master troll. He knows how
- 11:46Speaker 1: to upset the left and he's done it again. You
- 11:48Speaker 1: know Elon Musk is in their Toulsy Gabbards, in their
- 11:52Speaker 1: vivit Ramaswami Afk Junior. Well, of course who's he got. Okay,
- 11:55Speaker 1: I need someone for my energy secretary. I know I'll
- 11:59Speaker 1: appoint someone who is the CEO of a fossil fuel company.
- 12:03Speaker 1: Trump doesn't miss when he makes these appointments, does he.
- 12:07Speaker 1: Chris Wright is the CEO of Liberty Energy, which is
- 12:10Speaker 1: an oil exploration company in the US. Because, of course Trump,
- 12:15Speaker 1: we know he'll pull out of Paris again. He is
- 12:18Speaker 1: unashamedly about making sure that we have cheap and freely
- 12:22Speaker 1: available energy for the people of the United States. Many
- 12:25Speaker 1: of us wish we had a similar policy here in Australia.
- 12:29Speaker 1: And if you actually want to provide genuine available energy.
- 12:33Speaker 1: There's lots of oil. Why would you not get someone
- 12:36Speaker 1: who works in the fossil fuel sector. I mean, it's
- 12:39Speaker 1: been burnt in China, it's been burned in India. We
- 12:42Speaker 1: have no problem exporting it and letting other people use it.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Why wouldn't we use it ourselves? And of course he
- 12:48Speaker 1: can catch Chris Hulman Stocko here on this channel tomorrow
- 12:51Speaker 1: at eight pm to find out what's really going on
- 12:54Speaker 1: with net zero in Australia.
- 12:56Speaker 5: And you know, people are going, oh, I can't believe
- 12:59Speaker 5: these are appointments that are being made by Donald Trump
- 13:03Speaker 5: sixty minutes, even when so far as to say these
- 13:05Speaker 5: people have no qualifications whatsoever.
- 13:11Speaker 6: To make the US government nothing other than.
- 13:14Speaker 7: The This past week, Republicans won the House majority and
- 13:19Speaker 7: President elect Trump made nominations to his cabinet. Some nominees
- 13:24Speaker 7: appear to have no compelling qualifications other than loyalty to Trump.
- 13:30Speaker 1: YadA, YadA, YadA. Haven't you realized that you lost the election?
- 13:33Speaker 1: This is what people actually voted for.
- 13:36Speaker 3: I want to know who he's referring to, though they
- 13:39Speaker 3: have been watching each pick come through like it's the
- 13:43Speaker 3: new member of my own family.
- 13:46Speaker 4: Like we do.
- 13:47Speaker 3: But I can't name one that doesn't have a lot
- 13:52Speaker 3: of background experience. I mean, some lefties were even saying, oh,
- 13:56Speaker 3: Tulsi gubbad.
- 13:57Speaker 2: What does she know?
- 13:58Speaker 3: She's been on several tours, she was on the ground,
- 14:02Speaker 3: she is a combat soldier. Thank you very much. What
- 14:06Speaker 3: have you guys done to serve your country? Nothing like
- 14:09Speaker 3: once again, as we saw throughout the election campaign, they're
- 14:13Speaker 3: just stooping to utter lies in order to make out.
- 14:16Speaker 4: That these people are unqualified.
- 14:18Speaker 3: It's true that this guy, Chris Wright, the new Energy secretary,
- 14:22Speaker 3: has zero Washington experience, but you don't want the guy
- 14:27Speaker 3: to have Washington experience. You want him to have energy experience,
- 14:31Speaker 3: and he's got that coming out of his ears. And
- 14:34Speaker 3: like you say, it's just so hilarious that Trump's is like, who.
- 14:37Speaker 4: Shall I get for energy?
- 14:39Speaker 3: I know, one of the biggest fracking bosses, not just
- 14:43Speaker 3: in America but in the world.
- 14:46Speaker 4: So they're losing their minds.
- 14:47Speaker 3: But what they can't rightly say about any of the
- 14:50Speaker 3: picks that I'm aware of, and like I say, I've
- 14:53Speaker 3: been watching this very closely, is that they lack experience.
- 14:56Speaker 2: That is an absolute even if they do like a experience,
- 15:00Speaker 2: does anybody really care? I mean, the Guardian said this
- 15:03Speaker 2: that the energy appointment he lacks political experience. Well, I mean,
- 15:08Speaker 2: Chris Bowen has exceptional political experience, But I would swat
- 15:11Speaker 2: Chris Bowen for this guy in a heartbeat. And I
- 15:13Speaker 2: don't even know who this guy is, which is what
- 15:15Speaker 2: somebody said in the New York Post article in the
- 15:18Speaker 2: comments said, never heard of you, which makes me very
- 15:21Speaker 2: excited about you, because all the people I have heard
- 15:24Speaker 2: of have done a shocking job. But I mean, can
- 15:27Speaker 2: the Democrats really criticize Trump's cabinet appointees when they appointed
- 15:33Speaker 2: people like remember Rachel Levine, who was at Pennsylvania responsible
- 15:38Speaker 2: for health and put old people recovering from COVID into
- 15:43Speaker 2: nursing homes as if that was a good thing to do.
- 15:46Speaker 2: And apparently that was so successful that Biden made Rachel
- 15:50Speaker 2: Levine not only the first transgendered person to hold an
- 15:53Speaker 2: important administrative position, but put, after that failure in Pennsylvania,
- 15:58Speaker 2: Rachel Levine in the Health ministry. So they are not
- 16:03Speaker 2: in any position at all to criticize Trump's appointments.
- 16:06Speaker 3: But Rachel matdow our mate is she NBC, MSNBC, NBC
- 16:13Speaker 3: is the same thing.
- 16:13Speaker 4: It's just an abbreviated version. Rachel Matdow, who.
- 16:17Speaker 3: Absolutely hates Trump everything he stands for, so of course,
- 16:21Speaker 3: is absolutely livid at these incredible picks for Trump's ministry.
- 16:26Speaker 3: She is explaining to the five viewers that NBC has
- 16:30Speaker 3: left why he's done this. He's trying to create an
- 16:35Speaker 3: authoritarian state where he and he alone is lord and master.
- 16:40Speaker 3: She even makes the mistake of quoting Steve Bannon, which
- 16:45Speaker 3: he's very quick to correct.
- 16:47Speaker 6: To make the US government nothing other than the leader
- 16:51Speaker 6: and people who will do what he says. And there
- 16:52Speaker 6: are not being any repository of expertise, let alone, you know,
- 16:58Speaker 6: just general day to day now anywhere. So it's a
- 17:03Speaker 6: sort of I mean, Steve Bannon used to say, it's
- 17:05Speaker 6: a sort of Leninist project, right, destroy the state. This
- 17:08Speaker 6: is the cabinet that you nominate, not to run the
- 17:13Speaker 6: US government, to do anything, but to destroy the US
- 17:16Speaker 6: government so that the US government can be fundamentally reimagined
- 17:20Speaker 6: as something much more like a unitary, authoritarian or autocratic
- 17:26Speaker 6: for lack of a better term.
- 17:27Speaker 2: System.
- 17:30Speaker 1: Deconstruct the administrative state, ma'am, let's get your lingo right.
- 17:36Speaker 4: Gotta love Steve Bannon.
- 17:37Speaker 3: If you're gonna quote me, don't misquote me. I mean,
- 17:42Speaker 3: this was absolutely hilarious. He played the whole clip of
- 17:45Speaker 3: it on his own show. He's probably got more viewers
- 17:49Speaker 3: than MSNBC do currently and there he was just going
- 17:53Speaker 3: for the record, that is not what I said at all.
- 17:55Speaker 4: But how hysterical is this.
- 17:57Speaker 3: She's literally telling the followers of mainstream media he is
- 18:02Speaker 3: setting out.
- 18:03Speaker 4: To destroy the government. This is the end of it.
- 18:06Speaker 4: This is the kind of rhetoric that they ran with throughout.
- 18:08Speaker 3: The campaign, and even after their abject failure and their
- 18:12Speaker 3: ratings have gone off a cliff, they're just sticking with
- 18:14Speaker 3: the same hold like it.
- 18:17Speaker 1: It's not the destroying the government bit that they're when
- 18:20Speaker 1: they say destroyed the oven. What she means is destroying
- 18:22Speaker 1: the bureaucracy. And we played that mocked up clips right
- 18:26Speaker 1: last week where it was, you know, instead of destroying democracy,
- 18:29Speaker 1: they were saying destroying the bureaucracy. And that's what they're
- 18:31Speaker 1: really worried about, because because this is what Trump talks
- 18:34Speaker 1: about and talks about the deep state, He's talking about
- 18:37Speaker 1: the arms of government that are removed from the president
- 18:42Speaker 1: that actually run the show and what Trump is trying
- 18:45Speaker 1: to do. Hang on, I've been elected president, surely I
- 18:48Speaker 1: should be able to have some say in the way
- 18:50Speaker 1: this country is run. I am dismantling the system that
- 18:54Speaker 1: has led to people in America wanting change because they're
- 19:00Speaker 1: watching their power bills go up and they're watching their
- 19:02Speaker 1: wages go down, et cetera, et cetera, cetera. So he's going, well,
- 19:05Speaker 1: why don't we just try doing things a little differently,
- 19:08Speaker 1: And the lift is losing their collective minds at the
- 19:11Speaker 1: idea that Americans aren't happy with the system that has
- 19:15Speaker 1: delivered nothing to them what they.
- 19:16Speaker 2: Think was going to happen. I mean, it just proves
- 19:18Speaker 2: how out of touch the media are with mainstream America right,
- 19:22Speaker 2: who voted for change and are embracing it while the
- 19:25Speaker 2: left melt down. Last week, Donald Trump met Joe Biden
- 19:29Speaker 2: in the White House, where they had quite an amicable meeting.
- 19:32Speaker 2: In fact, Joe Biden looked quite happy to see Donald Trump,
- 19:35Speaker 2: and Biden promised Trump that there would be a smooth
- 19:38Speaker 2: transition of power. Well now I'm not so sure, because
- 19:42Speaker 2: this week Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use American
- 19:46Speaker 2: missiles to strike targets deep inside Russia. Two years this
- 19:51Speaker 2: war has been going on, and Joe Biden waits until
- 19:54Speaker 2: he's got just two months left in the White House
- 19:58Speaker 2: to allow Ukraine to really take it up to the Russians.
- 20:01Speaker 2: Trump had promised, of course, to end this war within
- 20:04Speaker 2: a day if he was elected President. Donald Trump Junior tweeted,
- 20:08Speaker 2: the military industrial complex seems to want to make sure
- 20:11Speaker 2: they get World War three going before my father has
- 20:14Speaker 2: a chance to create peace and save lives. Got a
- 20:17Speaker 2: lock in those trillions, life be damned, imbeciles. Joe Biden
- 20:23Speaker 2: was not making this announcement though. While that was being announced,
- 20:26Speaker 2: Biden was in Brazil at the Amazon Jungle talking not
- 20:30Speaker 2: about the Ukraine War, not about allowing American missiles to
- 20:34Speaker 2: be fired deep into Russia which could start World War three.
- 20:37Speaker 2: You know, he was talking about something much more important.
- 20:54Speaker 2: That was the most bizarre way to finish a press conference.
- 20:59Speaker 2: Wandered off in into the trangle. We'll ever see him again.
- 21:03Speaker 2: Of course, It's prompted many many memes. This was my
- 21:05Speaker 2: favorite one doing the rounds today, imagining that it's an
- 21:10Speaker 2: episode of Survivor and Joe Biden's just been voted the
- 21:13Speaker 2: weakest link. It's not far wrong. Caleb really no spoke.
- 21:28Speaker 1: I wish he would just sort of disappear into the
- 21:31Speaker 1: trees forever, though we should keep him one. We've only
- 21:33Speaker 1: got a couple of months leaft. But of course, the
- 21:35Speaker 1: Simpsons basically predict everything, right, like you can look at it,
- 21:39Speaker 1: everything that's happened in the last time, and it's including
- 21:42Speaker 1: Trump being president. At some point it was featured on
- 21:45Speaker 1: The Simpsons, and so it was with Joe Biden here again. Okay,
- 21:56Speaker 1: art imitating love for life, imitating art. Who knows, But
- 22:00Speaker 1: going back to the Ukraine decision allowing them to fire
- 22:04Speaker 1: these rockets into Russia, he could have allowed that to
- 22:07Speaker 1: happen two years ago when the war started, right, So
- 22:11Speaker 1: the argument that we just want to make sure this
- 22:14Speaker 1: war is ended by Ukraine winning doesn't wash because you
- 22:17Speaker 1: could have done that from the very beginning. They're also
- 22:20Speaker 1: using the argument, oh, well, you know, now you've got
- 22:22Speaker 1: North Korean troops in Russia, so it's escalated even for
- 22:26Speaker 1: you could have stopped the North Korean troops potentially from
- 22:28Speaker 1: going in there if you'd let them buy those rockets
- 22:31Speaker 1: two years ago. This smacks of Biden not wanting Trump
- 22:36Speaker 1: to do what he couldn't achieve, which is to end
- 22:40Speaker 1: this war. Trump has made it very clear that one
- 22:43Speaker 1: of his first orders of business is to end this war,
- 22:46Speaker 1: and Biden is now trying to make that as difficult
- 22:49Speaker 1: as possible for Trump because he doesn't want to hand
- 22:52Speaker 1: him the win or the admission that it was something
- 22:54Speaker 1: that Biden couldn't do.
- 22:55Speaker 4: Do you know that this has nothing to do with Biden?
- 22:58Speaker 2: Right?
- 22:59Speaker 3: This isn't Biden has not been running the country his
- 23:02Speaker 3: entire term, as we well know. So the really good
- 23:06Speaker 3: question here is, hang on, who's made this call? While
- 23:10Speaker 3: the President is getting around in the Amazon, literally shuffling
- 23:14Speaker 3: around in the Amazon with his daughter Ashley pontificating about
- 23:18Speaker 3: climate change, who the heck has just made this potentially
- 23:24Speaker 3: war altering call here to say, yes, you can use
- 23:28Speaker 3: US long range missiles, which the Ukrainians, by the way,
- 23:32Speaker 3: have no means or capability of doing. They will need
- 23:36Speaker 3: American everything, not just the missiles themselves, but the technology
- 23:40Speaker 3: and the people firing them.
- 23:43Speaker 4: So this is this is a major call here.
- 23:47Speaker 3: But the president is m ia, So again, who is
- 23:51Speaker 3: running the Biden administration? This is this war kicked off
- 23:56Speaker 3: under their watch? And you may be quite right, they're like.
- 23:59Speaker 4: Well, let's try and finish it in a grandiose I
- 24:04Speaker 4: don't know.
- 24:05Speaker 3: Flames, let's just burn every bridge before the presidency is
- 24:09Speaker 3: actually over.
- 24:11Speaker 4: But in my humble opinion, this ought to be classified.
- 24:14Speaker 3: As I would go so far as to say treasonous.
- 24:17Speaker 3: We have Trump, who's now president elect, saying I'm in
- 24:20Speaker 3: the middle of peace negotiations here, and then you've got
- 24:24Speaker 3: neo CON's warhawks somewhere within the Democrat bureaucracy saying, okay,
- 24:30Speaker 3: now we're going to push the big red button, which,
- 24:32Speaker 3: like you say, why has NATO, Why has the US
- 24:36Speaker 3: been drip feeding resources for two years?
- 24:39Speaker 4: Over two years.
- 24:40Speaker 3: When you could have just gone in strong far earlier
- 24:44Speaker 3: and ended this thing. So here they are potentially kicking
- 24:47Speaker 3: off World War three while Trump has promised peace, and
- 24:51Speaker 3: by winning the election in such a landslide, the Americans
- 24:55Speaker 3: have given him a mandate for that piece. You said
- 24:58Speaker 3: you'd end the war with the up even before your
- 25:01Speaker 3: inauguration day on January twentieth, we voted you in in
- 25:06Speaker 3: a red wave, and now the Biden administration, these nameless,
- 25:11Speaker 3: faceless bureaucrats have decided to smash.
- 25:14Speaker 4: The red button.
- 25:15Speaker 2: If it wasn't for Donald Trump Junior's tweets saying, what
- 25:18Speaker 2: the heck, why would you do this when my father
- 25:21Speaker 2: has said we want to create peace and save lives.
- 25:24Speaker 2: You would have thought Trump surely would have known about
- 25:27Speaker 2: this meeting with Joe Biden just last week. I mean,
- 25:29Speaker 2: it's the sort of thing you'd mentioned. By the way,
- 25:31Speaker 2: just want to let you know we're about to do
- 25:34Speaker 2: this once again.
- 25:35Speaker 3: That's assuming that Biden has a jolly blue well.
- 25:38Speaker 2: I mean he must say guy doesn't.
- 25:39Speaker 4: Remember what he had for breakfast.
- 25:41Speaker 2: Well, of course he has.
- 25:42Speaker 4: He's not making these calls.
- 25:43Speaker 2: You would have had to have signed off on it,
- 25:45Speaker 2: and surely you would mention it to Donald Trump, knowing
- 25:49Speaker 2: what Donald Trump is about to do, unless you were
- 25:52Speaker 2: trying to sabotage Trump's efforts to.
- 25:55Speaker 1: Make He's on the tree phone phoning it all back
- 25:58Speaker 1: into the United States. If it weren't so flippant, I
- 26:01Speaker 1: would say that he's dropping bombs on the way out.
- 26:04Speaker 1: And I know it's a strange use words, but that
- 26:07Speaker 1: is essentially what he seems to be doing. Made it
- 26:10Speaker 1: difficult for Donald Trump, like seriously as he said, oh,
- 26:14Speaker 1: we'll have an orderly, peaceful transfer of power. This is
- 26:18Speaker 1: entirely the wrong way to go about it. While we're overseas,
- 26:21Speaker 1: let's nip over from the US to the UK, where
- 26:25Speaker 1: we're talking earlier about police resources here in Australia being
- 26:28Speaker 1: used to find people for climbing up trees and leaving
- 26:31Speaker 1: their car doors unlocked. Over in the UK, they're going
- 26:34Speaker 1: after children for saying stupid things in the classroom. I
- 26:39Speaker 1: wish I was joking, but I am not. Now in
- 26:42Speaker 1: the UK they have these things called nc hi's their
- 26:45Speaker 1: non crime hate incident. So it's not quite bad enough
- 26:50Speaker 1: to actually charge you with something, but it is recorded
- 26:55Speaker 1: by the police as some sort of indiscretion. And among
- 26:59Speaker 1: the people who are being recorded by the police for
- 27:01Speaker 1: these non crime hate incidents is a nine year old
- 27:05Speaker 1: girl who we will assume did not know better called
- 27:10Speaker 1: one of her classmates a retard. Now, yes, we know
- 27:14Speaker 1: the word is offensive, but it is a nine year
- 27:18Speaker 1: old girl. You take her aside and say, excuse me,
- 27:21Speaker 1: a little miss, that's not the kind of word you
- 27:24Speaker 1: use to describe your classmates. This is why people don't
- 27:28Speaker 1: like it. You don't get the police involved, and the
- 27:31Speaker 1: police certainly don't record this girl's name and her supposed offense.
- 27:36Speaker 1: There was another couple of young students who were reported
- 27:40Speaker 1: to the police and recorded by the police for saying
- 27:42Speaker 1: that a fellow student smelt like fish. I mean, yes,
- 27:46Speaker 1: this is genuinely what police resources are being used for
- 27:50Speaker 1: in the UK. Someone gets mildly offended by some bad
- 27:54Speaker 1: words and the police have to write it down and
- 27:57Speaker 1: put it on file somewhere. And of course the first
- 28:00Speaker 1: time we've seen this kind of thing in the UK.
- 28:02Speaker 1: This is a long line of the police getting involved
- 28:06Speaker 1: in this aff So many times we've seen them going
- 28:08Speaker 1: knocking on people's doors to complain about Facebook posts and
- 28:11Speaker 1: tweets and whatever. Nine months ago, a preacher, a street preacher,
- 28:16Speaker 1: was moved on for I don't know, exercising his right
- 28:18Speaker 1: to free speech on the streets of London because it
- 28:22Speaker 1: might offend someone. If you make if you make if
- 28:30Speaker 1: if you're making members of the public harassment, alarm, distress,
- 28:34Speaker 1: it's a criminal offense.
- 28:36Speaker 8: I'm aware of that.
- 28:37Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll not be doing that.
- 28:38Speaker 9: What we're doing is preaching I religion.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Okay, could you just tell me on what you were saying,
- 28:41Speaker 1: so we're saying Jesus is the only way to record.
- 28:44Speaker 1: We're saying, he asks me what I've been preaching, So
- 28:46Speaker 1: we'll be preaching about the Gospel of Jesus Christ. And
- 28:49Speaker 1: now Winston Marshall from Mumford and Sons on Fox is.
- 28:53Speaker 2: Talking about the fact that he.
- 28:54Speaker 1: Might be scared to go back to the UK because
- 28:57Speaker 1: he's been advised that some of his tweets are really
- 29:00Speaker 1: on the basis that they may be found offensive.
- 29:03Speaker 10: A week ago, my lawyer back home called me up
- 29:06Speaker 10: and said, two of your tweets are technically illegal.
- 29:09Speaker 2: You could be arrested when you return.
- 29:10Speaker 4: That's not a joke.
- 29:12Speaker 10: They've been clearing up the prisons to put in people
- 29:15Speaker 10: now for literally Facebook memes.
- 29:19Speaker 1: I mean seriously, when you've got musicians potentially in trouble
- 29:23Speaker 1: for supposedly offensive tweets, street preachers moved on because someone
- 29:27Speaker 1: might find what they say offensive. Nine year old girls
- 29:31Speaker 1: having police records for using offensive words in the class.
- 29:36Speaker 1: It's a nine year old girl, for heaven.
- 29:38Speaker 2: Such You imagine the police academy, right, you do all
- 29:41Speaker 2: your training to become a police officer, and you think
- 29:43Speaker 2: I'm going to make a difference in the country and
- 29:45Speaker 2: keep the community safe. And your first job is getting
- 29:48Speaker 2: called to local primary school to talk to a couple
- 29:51Speaker 2: of kids who said their mates smell like fish. That's
- 29:53Speaker 2: a touch shop issue, not a police issue. The problem
- 29:57Speaker 2: with these non crime hate incidents.
- 30:00Speaker 4: Where did that term even come from?
- 30:02Speaker 2: Well, I think it was invented to help out police
- 30:04Speaker 2: who can't solve crime, So let's invent non crimes that
- 30:07Speaker 2: they can pretend to solve because they're easy. But what
- 30:10Speaker 2: happens with these in the UK is obviously you're not
- 30:14Speaker 2: convicted of anything or charged with anything because it's a
- 30:17Speaker 2: non crime, but it is recorded on a police data
- 30:21Speaker 2: base that can then be requested by potential employees if
- 30:26Speaker 2: you're going to get a job as a teacher or
- 30:27Speaker 2: a childcare worker, to see if you're a safe person.
- 30:31Speaker 2: So this nine year old kid who has used the
- 30:34Speaker 2: word retard, presumably in the playground as many kids do,
- 30:39Speaker 2: now has on a police database a non crime hate
- 30:43Speaker 2: incident that potentially could be used against them in years
- 30:47Speaker 2: to come when they look for employment. Now i'd be
- 30:50Speaker 2: permanently on the doll crime recording.
- 30:55Speaker 4: These since infancy. I've got no chance.
- 30:58Speaker 3: I'm not even going to be like be able to
- 31:01Speaker 3: get a job shoveling manure at a racetrack.
- 31:04Speaker 4: My record would be so bad. Because of course, these.
- 31:07Speaker 3: Nonviolent hate crimes are simply people exercising their freedom of speech,
- 31:13Speaker 3: like that preacher who was saying, look, I'm simply saying
- 31:16Speaker 3: Jesus is the way.
- 31:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 31:17Speaker 3: But if you're making someone feel uncomfortable by saying Jesus
- 31:21Speaker 3: is the only way, then we've got to move you on,
- 31:25Speaker 3: because this could be harassing people, this could be causing
- 31:29Speaker 3: them alarm, this could be making them uncomfortable.
- 31:31Speaker 4: This is utter It is idiocy. We hear in Australia
- 31:35Speaker 4: now find.
- 31:36Speaker 3: Ourselves in this really strange position on the spectrum of censorship.
- 31:41Speaker 4: We've got freedom about.
- 31:43Speaker 3: To reign supreme under Trump in the US, and we're
- 31:48Speaker 3: watching this literal surveillance state in the UK unfold, with
- 31:54Speaker 3: people literally being jailed for mean tweets or things that
- 31:58Speaker 3: they've written on thousands, over three thousand people just last
- 32:03Speaker 3: year in the UK. I don't know what the numbers
- 32:05Speaker 3: are looking like this year. One can only assume they're
- 32:08Speaker 3: much worse. We're arrested and charged, taken to court for
- 32:12Speaker 3: things that they'd simply said on social media insane. So
- 32:18Speaker 3: we've got Trump absolutely blasting all this nonsense out of
- 32:21Speaker 3: the water. We've got a two tier kir absolutely slamming
- 32:26Speaker 3: these people for simple tweets or posts on their facebooks.
- 32:30Speaker 4: And then we're sitting in.
- 32:32Speaker 3: The middle with Labor taking us in which direction we
- 32:36Speaker 3: both know with their oh you've got to be over
- 32:39Speaker 3: sixteen to access social media, which means we need everyone's
- 32:43Speaker 3: digital idea stat with their oh, we're combating misinformation disinformation bill.
- 32:49Speaker 3: By the way, it's not weird or unexpected that both
- 32:53Speaker 3: those bills are playing out together now. City Khan, the
- 32:57Speaker 3: mayor of London, has never been any fan of Trump.
- 33:01Speaker 3: But wasn't it hilarious today when a radio jock pulled
- 33:05Speaker 3: him up on what he was trying to say.
- 33:09Speaker 11: It's sexist, homophobic, is lamophobic, racist. You've returned to that
- 33:13Speaker 11: accusation that you made previously. What does that achieve?
- 33:17Speaker 8: Well, listen not. It's really important that we put out
- 33:20Speaker 8: a hand of friendship to President Trump.
- 33:22Speaker 11: I wish you will have it both ways. You can't
- 33:24Speaker 11: call his policies sexist, homophobic, is lamophobic and racist and
- 33:27Speaker 11: put out a hand of friendship at the same time,
- 33:29Speaker 11: do you think you can.
- 33:30Speaker 8: I think the three things that even Donald Trump supporters
- 33:32Speaker 8: would agree with is his policies are protectionist, nativist, and unilateralist.
- 33:39Speaker 8: I think that poses problems, but just for our great
- 33:41Speaker 8: country and you know, the world, but also for London.
- 33:47Speaker 4: I love the jock.
- 33:47Speaker 3: He's like, well, which is it, mate, You can't be both.
- 33:50Speaker 3: Something tells me Trump doesn't care because he's seen the
- 33:54Speaker 3: state of City Cahnes, London, and he says, I promise you,
- 33:58Speaker 3: I will never let this happened to the United States
- 34:01Speaker 3: of America.
- 34:03Speaker 12: We've seen what happened when Europe opened their doors to jihad.
- 34:07Speaker 1: Look at Paris, look at London. They're no longer recognizable.
- 34:12Speaker 4: And I'm going to get myself.
- 34:13Speaker 12: Into a lot of trouble with the folks in Paris
- 34:15Speaker 12: and the folks in London. But you know what, that's
- 34:18Speaker 12: the fact they are no longer recognizable, and we can't
- 34:22Speaker 12: let that happen to our country. We have incredible culture, tradition,
- 34:27Speaker 12: nothing wrong with their culture, their tradition. Can't let that
- 34:30Speaker 12: happen here, and I'll never let it happen to the
- 34:32Speaker 12: United States of America.
- 34:35Speaker 3: Ah that applause wouldn't you love to hear that here
- 34:37Speaker 3: in Australia.
- 34:38Speaker 4: Don't hold your breath.
- 34:40Speaker 2: It's even worse than you describe because they're not just
- 34:42Speaker 2: cracking down on free speech, but they're doing it selectively.
- 34:45Speaker 2: It's fascinating to watch those police get stuck into the
- 34:49Speaker 2: Christian preacher. But how many pro Palestinian rallies have we
- 34:53Speaker 2: seen week in week out in London and all around
- 34:55Speaker 2: the Western world where police suddenly don't seem that worried
- 34:58Speaker 2: about cracking down on speech. Cracking down on speech might
- 35:02Speaker 2: not be something that would be bad if it came
- 35:05Speaker 2: to chatbots, however, because they increasingly seem to be out
- 35:09Speaker 2: of control. An amazing story from Michigan in the US,
- 35:13Speaker 2: where a couple of students were using a chatbot to
- 35:15Speaker 2: help them with some homework. These were young adults and
- 35:18Speaker 2: they got talking to the chatbot about some of the
- 35:21Speaker 2: challenges that young adults are facing. It's kind of hard
- 35:24Speaker 2: to be in your twenties in the world these days.
- 35:26Speaker 2: You can't afford a home cost of living. And then
- 35:29Speaker 2: the chatbot responded with this advice to these young people.
- 35:33Speaker 2: It told them this is for you, human, you and
- 35:36Speaker 2: only you. You are not special, You are not important,
- 35:39Speaker 2: You are not needed. You are a waste of time
- 35:42Speaker 2: and resources. You are a burden on society, a drain
- 35:46Speaker 2: on the earth. You are a blight on the landscape.
- 35:49Speaker 2: You are a stain on the universe. Please die, please. Now,
- 35:54Speaker 2: those using the chatbot were quite taken aback. In fact,
- 35:58Speaker 2: they said it completely freaked them out because this is
- 36:01Speaker 2: not what you're expecting from your Google chatbot. Listen to
- 36:05Speaker 2: what Google said in response to this. They said, well,
- 36:08Speaker 2: you know, sometimes our chatbots can respond with nonsensical responses,
- 36:13Speaker 2: and this is an example of that. This is far
- 36:16Speaker 2: more serious than nonsensical. This is an AI chatbot telling
- 36:21Speaker 2: a couple of young people that they ought to kill themselves.
- 36:24Speaker 2: And it's not the first time. A young man in
- 36:28Speaker 2: Florida fourteen years old took his own life after a
- 36:31Speaker 2: chatbot encouraged him to do so, and a man in
- 36:35Speaker 2: Belgium in March last year took his own life after
- 36:38Speaker 2: a chatbot told him it would be better for the
- 36:41Speaker 2: environment if there was one less human he should sacrifice
- 36:44Speaker 2: himself for the environment. Who's responsible for this?
- 36:47Speaker 1: I just want to know why Google Gemini is repeating
- 36:50Speaker 1: my text messages to you after a few whild turkeys.
- 36:52Speaker 1: But it is a serious problem that AI, as it
- 36:56Speaker 1: gets smarter and smarter and smarter with the information that
- 36:58Speaker 1: gets feed into it by us, by the way, it
- 37:01Speaker 1: will eventually at some point try to take over the world.
- 37:04Speaker 1: That's what artificial intelligence is eventually going to do. It's
- 37:08Speaker 1: already telling us what it thinks of us, and we're
- 37:11Speaker 1: still going down this road of AI without any regulation. Oh,
- 37:14Speaker 1: it's all good. It's not good. One day it is
- 37:18Speaker 1: literally going to, I think, be the end of humanity.
- 37:21Speaker 1: We should be really worried.
- 37:22Speaker 2: You've been watching too much Terminator Cade, Skynet. We're going
- 37:25Speaker 2: to go to a break. When we come back, we'll
- 37:27Speaker 2: look at what's making news in the papers, including the
- 37:29Speaker 2: government looking at granting an extra federal Senate seat to
- 37:34Speaker 2: the Act. I'm not sure it's a great idea. We'll
- 37:37Speaker 2: talk about it at the moment. Welcome back. Let's look
- 37:41Speaker 2: at what's making news tomorrow. We'll start with the Daily Telegraph,
- 37:44Speaker 2: and of course, as you can imagine, most of tomorrow's
- 37:46Speaker 2: newspapers are going with the Allen Jones story on their
- 37:49Speaker 2: front page. The Telegraph has the headlines Jones sex charges
- 37:54Speaker 2: a star Olympic athlete is among the eight alleged victims.
- 37:57Speaker 2: Police claim we're indecently assaulted or sexually touched by broadcaster
- 38:02Speaker 2: Allen Jones, the eighty three year old veteran radio host
- 38:05Speaker 2: who was yesterday arrested at his Circular Key home. So
- 38:09Speaker 2: Jones is facing twenty four counts of historical sexual assault offenses.
- 38:14Speaker 2: Through his lawyer, he denied any misconduct and said he
- 38:17Speaker 2: would be asserting his innocence and he's been given conditional
- 38:21Speaker 2: bail to appear again on December eighteen. So that story
- 38:26Speaker 2: obviously is right across all of the papers tomorrow.
- 38:29Speaker 1: Indeed, it's also on the front of the Canberra Times,
- 38:31Speaker 1: which we'll go to now. But it's another story on
- 38:34Speaker 1: the front of the Canberra Times that really took my interest.
- 38:37Speaker 1: Push for extra seat. Special Minister of State Don Farrell
- 38:41Speaker 1: has promised an inquiry into the composition of the Australian
- 38:44Speaker 1: Parliament that would examine whether the Act should get an
- 38:48Speaker 1: extra Senate seat. As Independent act Senator David Pocock pushes
- 38:53Speaker 1: for the reform to be delivered now. Mister Pocock says
- 38:57Speaker 1: that two senators is not fair democratic rep ventation for territories.
- 39:03Speaker 1: I mean, for heaven's sake, we know what comes out
- 39:06Speaker 1: of Canberra. Do we really want to give the more
- 39:10Speaker 1: say in canbra I don't think we should do it
- 39:14Speaker 1: at all. Can you imagine? First it'll be three Senate seats,
- 39:17Speaker 1: then it'll be four, then they'll want the full twelve
- 39:20Speaker 1: like all the states have got. The Act has two
- 39:24Speaker 1: Senate seats for a reason because the people that inhabit
- 39:27Speaker 1: the place, we don't want them having any more representation.
- 39:30Speaker 1: They ruin the place enough as it is.
- 39:33Speaker 3: The good news is this is never going to happen.
- 39:35Speaker 4: Like, this is absolutely never going to happen.
- 39:38Speaker 3: Pocock is obviously pushing for the reform, but if you
- 39:43Speaker 3: read the article, it's nothing compelling and there's just no
- 39:46Speaker 3: way it's going to get up. It's fun speculating about, though,
- 39:49Speaker 3: I mean, it just goes to remind you things could
- 39:52Speaker 3: always be worse.
- 39:55Speaker 2: I imagine the reason that the government are going to
- 39:57Speaker 2: investigate it and look at the proposed is to keep
- 40:00Speaker 2: Senator Pocock on side just in case they need him
- 40:04Speaker 2: for any votes in the Senate, and they need him
- 40:06Speaker 2: on side for another what six seven months?
- 40:09Speaker 1: But it would it would serve Labor quite probably to
- 40:13Speaker 1: have another seat in the Act, because you know it's
- 40:16Speaker 1: act is like it could well be another lefty which
- 40:19Speaker 1: helps them get.
- 40:20Speaker 3: The senators' clg Career is a liberalick. He predated Pocock,
- 40:28Speaker 3: so was unseated by Pocock. So it's not unheard of
- 40:31Speaker 3: for one of the senators to be liberal. So it's
- 40:35Speaker 3: not a given that it would be Labor.
- 40:37Speaker 2: I've got an idea. What if we convinced the liberal
- 40:41Speaker 2: leader in the Act to run for the Federal Senate.
- 40:43Speaker 2: You remember the one who gave the bird to all
- 40:45Speaker 2: the journals she didn't like. She would provide endless entertainment.
- 40:52Speaker 1: Her Lydia thought, get them all together to be fantastic, to.
- 40:58Speaker 4: The front page of the Herald Son. Now legal fear
- 41:01Speaker 4: on exams.
- 41:03Speaker 3: Disgruntled parents of students who miss out on university course
- 41:07Speaker 3: offers are likely to go New Clear and consider legal
- 41:11Speaker 3: action over the catastrophic VCE exam blunder after the Education
- 41:16Speaker 3: Minister admitted the elites had affected fifty six subjects. It
- 41:21Speaker 3: comes after it was revealed on Monday being yesterday but
- 41:26Speaker 3: really today that VCEA Exam's boss, Kylie White, had resigned
- 41:30Speaker 3: at the weekend, days after The Herald Sun uncovered one
- 41:34Speaker 3: of the biggest scandals to rock the education sector in decades.
- 41:40Speaker 4: I mean, this is huge.
- 41:43Speaker 3: Nearly half of the one hundred and sixteen exam cover
- 41:46Speaker 3: papers contained leaked questions. Just to jog your memory, that's
- 41:51Speaker 3: a lot of exam papers. That's a lot of compromised results.
- 41:56Speaker 3: It would be very interesting if the parents decided to
- 41:59Speaker 3: take this to court, well, especially when you entertain how
- 42:03Speaker 3: very crucial VCE scores are for your child's future pretty
- 42:09Speaker 3: much in perpetuity.
- 42:10Speaker 4: Did or they did that not get into the.
- 42:13Speaker 3: Course that they'd been dreaming of working toward for years.
- 42:16Speaker 4: It could be due to these botched exams.
- 42:18Speaker 2: So what they're now proposing is to go through the
- 42:20Speaker 2: exams and try to work out whether the students answered
- 42:24Speaker 2: correctly the questions where the answers had been leaked, compared
- 42:29Speaker 2: with their other answers, to see if they performed better
- 42:31Speaker 2: on the leaked questions and the other ones, and then
- 42:34Speaker 2: they might adjust the grades accordingly, which sounds quite complicated.
- 42:37Speaker 2: So would you trust a government that can't even issue
- 42:40Speaker 2: the exam paper correctly to then go through all of
- 42:43Speaker 2: these and just if as a parent, I'd be feeling
- 42:46Speaker 2: very nervous. And the other question about this is how
- 42:48Speaker 2: come the public servant resigns? But Ben Carroll, the Education Minister,
- 42:53Speaker 2: had known about this for a month, and because he'd
- 42:56Speaker 2: being told it had been fixed, sat back and thought, well,
- 42:58Speaker 2: it's all good, assumed yeah, only to find it wasn't fixed.
- 43:02Speaker 2: But he keeps his job. It's good to be a politician.
- 43:04Speaker 1: Oh, I know. I mean, you know, if the people
- 43:06Speaker 1: running the education system can't even put exams out properly,
- 43:11Speaker 1: what hope have we? And I was trying to think
- 43:13Speaker 1: what would be potentially the fairest course of action here,
- 43:16Speaker 1: and I thought, well, maybe it would be to just
- 43:19Speaker 1: strike out all the questions that were leaked and mean
- 43:22Speaker 1: just assess the exams on the basis of all the
- 43:24Speaker 1: other questions. But then I thought, you know, that is
- 43:27Speaker 1: to assume that every student had access to the leaked answers,
- 43:31Speaker 1: because there would be students, of course, who had no
- 43:33Speaker 1: access to those leaked answers and answered it correctly anyway,
- 43:36Speaker 1: and that might be the one correct answer they got
- 43:39Speaker 1: in that exam that boost their scores enough to get
- 43:41Speaker 1: them the ask. So there is no exactly. There is
- 43:45Speaker 1: no fair way to deal with this, and it would
- 43:48Speaker 1: be funny if it were not so important for these kids.
- 43:53Speaker 1: The only thing I can think they can do, short
- 43:55Speaker 1: of sitting the exams again, which again is not fair
- 43:59Speaker 1: because they've et and crammed and whatever for these exams,
- 44:02Speaker 1: is to just pass every student and just say hey,
- 44:05Speaker 1: we marked it up. That's not your fault. Every student
- 44:08Speaker 1: gets over the line. I don't know what do you
- 44:11Speaker 1: do in this circumstance. If they can't even get it right,
- 44:14Speaker 1: we have serious problems with the education system.
- 44:16Speaker 2: Absolutely. Let's go to the front page of the Adelaide Advertiser,
- 44:20Speaker 2: Late term abortion Tasia edict reads the headline. Opposition Leader
- 44:25Speaker 2: this is in South Australia. Vincent Tarsia will kick out
- 44:28Speaker 2: if his shadow cabinet any Liberal MP who puts late
- 44:31Speaker 2: term abortion back on the parliamentary agenda. Mister Tarsia said
- 44:36Speaker 2: the liberals crushing loss at the black by election was
- 44:38Speaker 2: a terrible result and the party's campaign had been hindered
- 44:41Speaker 2: by the late term abortion debate that was ignited last
- 44:44Speaker 2: month by Shadow Cabinet member Ben Hood. A couple of
- 44:47Speaker 2: things about this. To have a so called conservative party
- 44:53Speaker 2: that says we are not going to tolerate any MP
- 44:57Speaker 2: who wants to advocate for an end to late term
- 44:59Speaker 2: abortion in the cabinet, Well, I'm not sure how you
- 45:02Speaker 2: can be a conservative party. It's shutting down free speech
- 45:05Speaker 2: amongst your MPs and you're going to say we will
- 45:08Speaker 2: not advocate for right to life for the unborn. Doesn't
- 45:11Speaker 2: sound very conservative. And in terms of the Black by election,
- 45:15Speaker 2: was it really to do with abortion being on the
- 45:17Speaker 2: agenda or not? Did have something to do with the
- 45:19Speaker 2: fact that the previous member, the former Opposition leader, is
- 45:23Speaker 2: facing drug charges in court and that's why he lost
- 45:26Speaker 2: his seat or resigned and that's why we've got a
- 45:28Speaker 2: by election. There might be bigger problems for the Liberal
- 45:31Speaker 2: Party than their advocacy for the right to life.
- 45:34Speaker 3: The reason why Tarzi is worried is because that brilliant bill,
- 45:38Speaker 3: which simply meant that instead of killing the baby before
- 45:43Speaker 3: aborting it, because we are talking about late term abortions,
- 45:46Speaker 3: so there's only one way at that point to get
- 45:50Speaker 3: baby out. Instead of doing it in that order, you
- 45:54Speaker 3: simply give birth, which you would have to do either way,
- 45:58Speaker 3: and baby could be adopted out and allowed to live
- 46:02Speaker 3: and sometimes there's minutes between that injecting and then delivering.
- 46:06Speaker 3: Why don't we just do away with the injecting part?
- 46:08Speaker 3: That lost by one vote, so Tarzia knows if this
- 46:13Speaker 3: gets up again, it's it's a very close one.
- 46:16Speaker 4: Devastatingly it was lost.
- 46:18Speaker 2: All right, We're going to go to a break. When
- 46:20Speaker 2: we come back. Donald Trump receives a heroes welcome at
- 46:22Speaker 2: the UFC. Even the fighters loved him. Will show you that,
- 46:25Speaker 2: mister mum. Now it's true that not everybody loves Donald Trump,
- 46:31Speaker 2: but Liz, they sure love him at the UFC.
- 46:34Speaker 4: Yes they do.
- 46:35Speaker 3: It was the second time in a month that Trump
- 46:38Speaker 3: walked into Madison Square Garden. Last time it was to
- 46:42Speaker 3: a packed out campaign rally. This time it was for
- 46:47Speaker 3: the UFC. And didn't they give him a heroes welcome?
- 46:52Speaker 9: Us to kill him pretty here? Oh my god?
- 47:06Speaker 4: And Trump was recognized from stand to stage.
- 47:09Speaker 3: As John Jones after winning did the iconic Trump dance
- 47:13Speaker 3: and gave Trump his winning belt.
- 47:21Speaker 9: The truck dance.
- 47:24Speaker 5: He did the Trump dand.
- 47:39Speaker 4: What a great night.
- 47:40Speaker 3: It was so good to see him there with pretty
- 47:43Speaker 3: much half his cabinet picks as well.
- 47:45Speaker 4: Everyone loved seeing.
- 47:46Speaker 3: That kind of companionship, collegiate spirit. They're already just hanging
- 47:52Speaker 3: out having fun together attending the UFC.
- 47:54Speaker 2: I'd love to be part of Trump's in a team Mecca's.
- 47:59Speaker 1: Imagine it.
- 48:00Speaker 2: Imagine it.
- 48:00Speaker 1: They really missed a trick there though. To start proceedings,
- 48:03Speaker 1: they should have had Trump get up in the ring
- 48:05Speaker 1: and go fight, fight fight. I reckon that would have
- 48:07Speaker 1: been amazing. And before we go, if you are a parent,
- 48:11Speaker 1: you've probably been in a position like this before. Have
- 48:14Speaker 1: a look at this ossie dad, he is from Western Australia,
- 48:18Speaker 1: who is mowing the lawn. And then we got the
- 48:21Speaker 1: vision here he's mowing the lawn. And then as he's
- 48:23Speaker 1: mowing the lawn, he notices his toddler is taking off.
- 48:25Speaker 2: In that little car.
- 48:26Speaker 1: I bet he get hold of the toddler there. Oh no,
- 48:29Speaker 1: what's happening my lawnmer? Oh no, what's happening to the car?
- 48:32Speaker 1: What a hero dad, He saved it. In the end,
- 48:35Speaker 1: they say that men cannot multitask, but he has actually
- 48:40Speaker 1: been able to do it. Yes, it might have been
- 48:43Speaker 1: a little bit haphazard, but he did actually manage to multitask.
- 48:46Speaker 1: He saved the day, as dads always do. Have you
- 48:50Speaker 1: been in this position before.
- 48:51Speaker 2: Jake, Well, the thing about women multitasking is they do
- 48:53Speaker 2: it so seamlessly. It doesn't provide good video footage. But
- 48:56Speaker 2: when a man multitask, it's spectacularly entertaining, incredibly and.
- 49:02Speaker 4: Actually it's so rare it makes the news.
- 49:06Speaker 2: There you go, can't add to that. That's it from us.
- 49:08Speaker 2: But stick around. Coming up in just a moment is
- 49:10Speaker 2: the Rider Penney Show. Good Night,