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610 CKTB | Loaded Dice & Blood in the Water: Ottawa's Streaming Tax Fold Hurts US Trade Talks · Kvetch & Release

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  Speaker 1: Brilliant, more crazy you designed, Geene Elitis on six' TEN
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  Speaker 1: Cktv Diagres news And.
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  Speaker 2: Talk it Is, friday and if you're in tonight you
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  Speaker 2: might be Watching netflix Or disney Or paramount or any
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  Speaker 2: of those really COOL us video streaming. Services we're going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about what's going on with. These John litkey
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  Speaker 2: is joining. Me he always has to take on. Everything good, Morning,
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  Speaker 2: John happy Donut, Day happy beach.
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  Speaker 1: Day thank, You, gene and to you And. Alex.
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  Speaker 2: Okay so back On may twenty, first THE crtc announced
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  Speaker 2: that it was going to start CHARGING us streamers Like, Netfolks,
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  Speaker 2: disney the ONES i, mentioned fifteen percent of their Yearly
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  Speaker 2: canadian revenues to give To canadian. Content people freaked out
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  Speaker 2: because in the, end we know who was going to
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  Speaker 2: be paying for. This it's you and me at home Watching.
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  Speaker 2: Netflix we're heading into The kuzma review starting On july,
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  Speaker 2: first and The americans just absolutely hate. This. Now interestingly,
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  Speaker 2: enough there was an opposition day earlier this week in
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  Speaker 2: The house Of commons and The tories wanted to freeze
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  Speaker 2: this mandatory, charge and of, course because The liberals are in,
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  Speaker 2: charge they voted against. It so it was going to go,
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  Speaker 2: ahead but then all of a sudden On, wednesday the
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  Speaker 2: government said it's going to talk to the C rtc
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  Speaker 2: and advise it not to implement this charge from five
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  Speaker 2: percent to fifteen. Percent so, letkey that's where we stand this. Morning,
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  Speaker 2: now let's start with where you're sitting this. Morning you're
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  Speaker 2: tracking this modern digital cloud crisis from the mindset of
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  Speaker 2: an old school nineteen seventies radio station. Manager god bless,
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  Speaker 2: you so connect the. Dots what does a seventies radio
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  Speaker 2: desk have to do with the feds basically folding To Silicon.
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  Speaker 1: Valley, Well, gene thanks bringing me. On i'm actually sitting
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  Speaker 1: at a custom bill nineteen seventy two executive station manager's
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  Speaker 1: desk from the Old big Eight studios On Olett AVENUE.
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  Speaker 1: Cklw this, phase, yeah solid, wood eight hundred pound leather,
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  Speaker 1: lined gold leaf. Rimmed it's a literal monument to the
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  Speaker 1: golden age Of canadian broadcast. Relevancy we're talking about an
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  Speaker 1: era where a fifty thousand watt clear channel tower launched
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  Speaker 1: global giants Like Gordon, lightfoot the guests who, Motown Alice,
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  Speaker 1: Cooper Bob, Sieger, AEROSMITH i Mean Rosalie, trombay the music.
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  Speaker 1: Director she did magic. THERE i secured this desk a decade.
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  Speaker 1: Ago it was going away for free into the. GARBAGE
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  Speaker 1: i got it for a single case of, beer traded
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  Speaker 1: to two friends with a work. Truck but here's the cautionary, Tale.
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  Speaker 1: Gene this desk is aftermath. Infrastructure it was commissioned to
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  Speaker 1: be built after THE crtc dropped its heavy handed thirty
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  Speaker 1: PERCENT cancn regulations in nineteen seventy one and then choked
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  Speaker 1: out the station's future by refusing to let them migrate
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  Speaker 1: TO fm stereo FROM. Am The Ivory tower regulators In
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  Speaker 1: ottawa couldn't see past their own. Clipboards their institutional blindness
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  Speaker 1: killed cklw's ability to compete With detroit stations playing just
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  Speaker 1: one mile across the. River listenership, createred advertisers, fled and
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  Speaker 1: the desk was built to manage the slow decline from
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  Speaker 1: the new. Studios but fast forward fifty five years And
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  Speaker 1: ottawa is doing the exact same. Thing, well at least
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  Speaker 1: they've done A u. Turn they thought they could throw
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  Speaker 1: a rigid geographic fence around a borderless digital cloud network
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  Speaker 1: under one Online Streaming. Act but the only difference here
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  Speaker 1: is THE feds hit that panic, button reversed course before
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  Speaker 1: the wreckage was. Absolute but it's the same bureaucratic, arrogance
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  Speaker 1: it's the same cultural, elites but it's just a different. Century.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you, KNOW i remember working at a radio
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  Speaker 2: station and THE crtc said that One Brian adams song
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  Speaker 2: was In canadian. CONTENT i, mean THE crtc gets a
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  Speaker 2: lot of things really really. Wrong now, Listen So carney
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  Speaker 2: and The Culture Minister Mark miller are spinning this sudden
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  Speaker 2: reversal as a big win the consumers Of. Canada now
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  Speaker 2: do you buy it's really about your Monthly netflix. Pillars
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  Speaker 2: this is some sort of political smoke. Screen this is.
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  Speaker 1: An absolute joke For carnie And miller to coat this
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  Speaker 1: retreat in the language of affordability for. Households don't buy
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  Speaker 1: it for a single, Second. Gene this had nothing to
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  Speaker 1: do with looking out for our. Wallets it had only
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  Speaker 1: things to do with desperate political self. Preservation The cabinet
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  Speaker 1: realized far too late that they had built a Regulatory.
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  Speaker 1: Frankenstein they handed THE crtc a loaded gun with The
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  Speaker 1: Online Streaming, act and then they act shock when the
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  Speaker 1: regulator actually pulled the trigger and implemented the crushing top line.
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  Speaker 1: Tax The, liberals, though they're still haunted by the ghost
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  Speaker 1: Of Christia frielan's Infamous Disney plus. Incident and so they're
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  Speaker 1: operating in a fragile government of, course that's been patched
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  Speaker 1: together through floor. Crossings and they knew that letting an
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  Speaker 1: out of touch tribunal and flight household entertainment bills right
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  Speaker 1: before going into trade talks that are going to be
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  Speaker 1: hammering us every day with this. Conversation they didn't want
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  Speaker 1: those angry f. Calls they couldn't afford that. Backlash so
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  Speaker 1: the affordability is just a convenient marketing pr spin for
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  Speaker 1: a panicked cabinet.
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  Speaker 2: Retreat, well you, know interestingly, enough the members of THE
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  Speaker 2: crtc are not, elected they're. Appointed they're federal. Bureaucrats they
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  Speaker 2: come up with a lot of make work, projects and in,
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  Speaker 2: fact the, government the duly elected, government doesn't really even
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  Speaker 2: have the legal direct power to say you can't do.
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  Speaker 2: This so they had to play a bit of a shell,
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  Speaker 2: game didn't.
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  Speaker 1: They, yeah this is Why i'm like a husk of
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  Speaker 1: a cynical person. Gene, legally this cabinet doesn't have any
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  Speaker 1: statutory ability to call them up and, say, hey do.
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  Speaker 1: This the system is designed that way to give politicians plausible,
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  Speaker 1: deniability of, course but they didn't want. That so what
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  Speaker 1: did they. Do they loaded the deck and they forced to.
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  Speaker 1: Shuffle they issued a convoluted broad policy direction to order
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  Speaker 1: THE crtc to immediately launch a public review of the
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  Speaker 1: levy that was implemented by the law that was just
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  Speaker 1: passed that allowed it to do. IT i, mean this
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  Speaker 1: is a rigged, process but it's been framed Around zumer.
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  Speaker 1: Feedback they know that mathematically guaranteeing the outcome was going
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  Speaker 1: to be the only way to get towards what they,
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  Speaker 1: wanted which is lower. Rates they did this to desperately
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  Speaker 1: clear the deck before this high STAKES usmca trade review
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  Speaker 1: that we just talked. About but do they honestly Think
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  Speaker 1: washington doesn't understand what this game. Is they're not. Stupid
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  Speaker 1: they see the loaded, dice they see the forced, shuffle
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  Speaker 1: and it makes our government look so weak on this world.
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  Speaker 2: Stage. Yo, now organizations LIKE actra they're pretty upset the
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  Speaker 2: streamers got off the. Hook do they have a right
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  Speaker 2: to be angry or is there something else going on?
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  Speaker 1: Here? OH i, mean like sure they have a right
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  Speaker 1: to be. Angry but we can strip away all the
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  Speaker 1: high landed rhetoric that they have and we can call
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  Speaker 1: these groups exactly what they. Are they're not cultural. Defenders
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  Speaker 1: these are institutional special interest, groups corporate syndicates and labor
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  Speaker 1: orgs that are looking out strictly for their. Members, look you,
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  Speaker 1: KNOW i know what actual structural community support looks. LIKE
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  Speaker 1: i serve on multiple. Boards i've served on many boards before.
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  Speaker 1: That these legacy groups don't care about, you or me
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  Speaker 1: or the Average canadian. Storyteller they care about securing their
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  Speaker 1: slice of a regulatory tax pipeline that they saw. Coming
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  Speaker 1: they expected a, permanent guaranteed corporate payday extracted directly from
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  Speaker 1: foreign tech. Revenues now that that's been taken, away they're
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  Speaker 1: throwing a massive public temper tantrum like they're a. Toddler
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  Speaker 1: they're whining to the media to trick gullible, people and
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  Speaker 1: they believing they're fighting For canadian, identity when in, reality
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  Speaker 1: we all know what it. Is they're just furious that
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  Speaker 1: the corporate gravy train hit a dead end or decided
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  Speaker 1: not to stop at their.
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  Speaker 2: Station, well you, know a massive chunk of that six
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  Speaker 2: hundred million, bucks about two hundred and twenty, million to be,
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  Speaker 2: exact would be going straight to media services like Ce,
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  Speaker 2: pack which is WHICH i watched sometime in the afternoon
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  Speaker 2: just to do homework for the. Show but that's the government,
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  Speaker 2: channel AND i mean it's more boring than watching a
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  Speaker 2: piece of white. Bread now that's the parliamentary. Channel so
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  Speaker 2: you're calling this a con.
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  Speaker 1: Job, YEAH i mean this is a scam. Gene it
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  Speaker 1: is a total con. JOB i. Expose we could call
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  Speaker 1: it con par. Instead for, parliament we could call it
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  Speaker 1: conpar could Start Nicholas cage And Mark. Karney but, look
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the, day the government is standing
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  Speaker 1: at a podium bragging about deploying six hundred million dollars
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  Speaker 1: and then taking two hundred and twenty for, themselves essentially
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  Speaker 1: for a vanity. Project this is being used to finance the,
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  Speaker 1: centralized top down vanity machine that provides essentially make up
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  Speaker 1: and touch up service for parliamentarians to broadcast their own.
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  Speaker 1: Spin we won't go calling it, propaganda but if you're
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  Speaker 1: smart enough to know how to use it for your own,
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  Speaker 1: purposes that's exactly what it. Is if this administration actually
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  Speaker 1: cared about civic. Transparency that money would be on the
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  Speaker 1: ground in regions Like niagara Or windsor right, now it'd
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  Speaker 1: be funding, independent grassroots local journalism like you, guys the
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  Speaker 1: boots on the ground reporting that actually holds municipal leaders
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  Speaker 1: and reachiable MPs, accountable challenging why you guys just lost
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  Speaker 1: your chair in that. Situation but instead local news is
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  Speaker 1: being starved to death while Tech exacs And Silicon valley
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  Speaker 1: are sitting on their mega, yachts pouring expensive champagne and
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  Speaker 1: laughing at all of us who are picking up their.
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  Speaker 2: Tabs whenever there's a dumb, DECISION i always wonder in my,
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  Speaker 2: MIND i always, say, like wasn't there somebody in the
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  Speaker 2: room who thought this through and could have jumped up and, said,
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  Speaker 2: guys this is a really dumb. DECISION i, mean we're
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  Speaker 2: heading into The kusma. REVIEW i, mean what a crazy
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  Speaker 2: thing to. Do just weeks before we.
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  Speaker 1: Just canada collectively just took a, machete chopped off our
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  Speaker 1: arm and is letting the blood pool in the water
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  Speaker 1: sitting in the Middle earth's waiting in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: The pacific without a life. Preserver this is the single
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  Speaker 1: most shortsighted move cabinet could have done heading into these.
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  Speaker 1: Talks trump operates on one psychological, framework leverage or dominance and,
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  Speaker 1: deals if you. Will when he and the ambassador see this,
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  Speaker 1: reversal they're not going to see a, sophisticated pragmatic. Concession
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  Speaker 1: they're going to see a weak trading partner stinking of absolute.
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  Speaker 1: Desperation we have signaled To washington our domestic policies are paper.
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  Speaker 1: Tigers we have demonstrated that all they need to do
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  Speaker 1: to force our capitulation is to rattle their sabers by
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  Speaker 1: bleeding out on the streaming Tax before we even sit
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  Speaker 1: down at the. Table we Gave trump all the. Cards
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  Speaker 1: he's going to use this blueprint to try to make
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  Speaker 1: us fold on supply, management on, dairy on. Auto and
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  Speaker 1: because we decided to show our weakness before we even
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  Speaker 1: walked into the, room we don't even have the leverage
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  Speaker 1: to walk.
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  Speaker 2: Away so what's the bottom line for listeners who are
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  Speaker 2: going to be checking Out netflix And disney?
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  Speaker 1: Tonight you, KNOW i guess the problem is is that
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  Speaker 1: we can't Allow canada to continue to exist as three
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  Speaker 1: telcom giants and a handful of legacy organizations stuffed into
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  Speaker 1: a trench, coat all looking out for each other's mutual.
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  Speaker 1: Survival we can have it, Better. Gene we can choose
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  Speaker 1: to have an, adept functional government that divides public resources
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  Speaker 1: equitably instead of funding centralized pork barrel projects and buying
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  Speaker 1: off special interests or regionalized. Interests but that shift will
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  Speaker 1: only happen if we refuse to let them to buy
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  Speaker 1: peace with our own. Money we have to stop accepting
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  Speaker 1: the loaded. Dice we need to demand, absolute, uncompromised unvarnished.
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  Speaker 1: Accountability we can have, It we just have to demand.
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  Speaker 2: Another great take this. Morning Enjoy paramount plus tonight the Posta,
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  Speaker 1: Show thank You. Jeanie as.
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  Speaker 2: Well there we go Is John letty with another great.
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  Speaker 2: Take