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Patriots Unfiltered 3/20: Roster Holes, Latest Reports, NFL Draft Talk · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: Deuze, you have riled up Patriots Nation like I've never
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  Speaker 4: How is Ashton Genty gonna make dudes missing the backfield.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe some of them are, but I call them more angry.
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  Speaker 3: Delete this and fire whoever Mike is. Mike is an idiot,
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  Speaker 2: It is Thursday here at jo Lett Stadium and we're
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  Speaker 2: talking still free agency. I want to talk about this
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  Speaker 2: Mark Daniels report, a little bit that came out. Did
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  Speaker 2: you hear about this? No, just want to discuss it.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was Mark. It's one of Evans guys. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk about it. I want to talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk about the most recent signings. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: the linebacker lead and Bradbury the center.
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  Speaker 4: What's that kind of burrying the lead here a little bit?
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  Speaker 4: What's that There's somebody visiting here today that's a pretty
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  Speaker 4: big name.
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  Speaker 2: Von Diggs. We'll talk about that as well. So as
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  Speaker 2: we said, you know, we're far from a completed roster
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  Speaker 2: and he won't even be there and we'll be in
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  Speaker 2: August and still talking about some transactions. But things are
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  Speaker 2: still moving. So I guess we could start with reaction
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  Speaker 2: to the report about Stefan Diggs deuce.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's a great player. A lot of action
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  Speaker 3: on Twitter For me last night, I felt like it
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  Speaker 3: might be deuce against the world. But I'm gonna say, Look,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say too much because they haven't signed him.
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  Speaker 3: He's visiting, but I'm just curious what they're interested in him.
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  Speaker 3: Is he's coming off an ACL injury. Does he want
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  Speaker 3: to sign up here for a couple of years? Is
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  Speaker 3: is Stefan Diggs, you know, want to come to New England.
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  Speaker 3: It seems a little bit of a I guess a
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  Speaker 3: stretch to me, just that you know, he was looking
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  Speaker 3: for a title, going from you know, good team to
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  Speaker 3: good team. Right now, Patriots in are a different place.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think a one year deal with Stefan Diggs
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  Speaker 3: makes sense. Probably gonna start on the pup list.
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  Speaker 2: So he's only he's four and a half months away
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  Speaker 2: from his injury.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, not I mean from his surgery.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So it's gonna be.
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  Speaker 3: A little while. But look, I I won't overreact, and
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  Speaker 3: I know I have, you know, establish feelings on him.
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  Speaker 3: But he's he's an outstanding player. He's a number one.
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  Speaker 3: He runs routes like nobody's business. Was on track to
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  Speaker 3: a great year last year. So we'll see if they
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  Speaker 3: sign him. And you know, I have my other thoughts
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  Speaker 3: about So.
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  Speaker 2: The first thing most of the tweets that I saw were, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I thought they were interested in culture, is like, but
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  Speaker 2: you talked to his teammates, and his teammates really liked him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Buffalo obviously had a tough falling out there and
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  Speaker 4: with Josh Allen and Buffalo, But we talked about a
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  Speaker 4: little bit. I want to say last week, when it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't Chris Godwin, wasn't DK Metcalf and one of these
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  Speaker 4: aging star receivers, whether it was Stefan Diggs, Cooper Cup,
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  Speaker 4: Mariy Cooper, you know, one of these types of guys,
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  Speaker 4: I felt like they just had to take a chance
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  Speaker 4: on one of these players and hope that they find
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  Speaker 4: a fout in the youth and and they can still
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  Speaker 4: play and play at a high level. Just the ceiling
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  Speaker 4: of adding Stefan Diggs and if he's the guy he
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  Speaker 4: was last year in Houston, when he comes back from
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  Speaker 4: the injury for a team like the Patriot, that's a
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  Speaker 4: worthwhile flyer to take. That's a worthwhile risk to take
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  Speaker 4: that he's going to bounce back from the injury. So
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  Speaker 4: given their cap situation, given the need at the position,
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  Speaker 4: like I just don't know how you could be against it, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they're risks, you know, involved Absolutely, I'm not so worried
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  Speaker 4: about the locker room, but in terms of the injury
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  Speaker 4: in the age, that's a risk. But they're kind of
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  Speaker 4: in the position where they need to take a risk
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  Speaker 4: like that.
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  Speaker 3: At this position, I agree, they have money, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and that's the thing that probably intrigues Stefon Diggs. May
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  Speaker 3: he perhaps more than anything.
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  Speaker 2: Else, you know, how much of it do you want
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  Speaker 2: to give to him?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's that's a question. And I mean i'd
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  Speaker 3: love to if he did sign here. Hear his pitch
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  Speaker 3: to why he was interested, and certainly I think we
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  Speaker 3: could all be buttered up by I'm really interested to
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  Speaker 3: play with Drake. I think he's got some great talent.
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  Speaker 3: I want to help him, you know, get to the
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  Speaker 3: next level like I did with Josh. I think those
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  Speaker 3: things are all as.
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  Speaker 2: Long as it doesn't prohibit them from doing something else anywhere,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's tackle or another what they're not whatever, you know,
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  Speaker 2: take a shot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's at this point they got more
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  Speaker 3: like and I think the NFL's kind of like this
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  Speaker 3: right now, Like it feels like they have more money
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  Speaker 3: than they can spend, like, they have more cap space
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  Speaker 3: than they realistically can a lot to the players that
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  Speaker 3: are available and the players that are on their team
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  Speaker 3: that might need extensions at this point.
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  Speaker 4: So it's, well, that's where I'm coming out from. It's like,
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  Speaker 4: what's the worst case scenario? The worst case scenario is
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  Speaker 4: that he can't play anymore, right, he doesn't bounce back
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  Speaker 4: from the knee, he can't play anymore, and then you
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  Speaker 4: cut ties and you move on after twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 4: And for a team that has a lot of cap
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  Speaker 4: space that the projection numbers right now are all kind
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  Speaker 4: of weary because we don't have all the details of
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  Speaker 4: contracts and things like that, but they have plenty of
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  Speaker 4: cap space. So that's your worst case scenario is that
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  Speaker 4: you took a chance and it didn't work out, and
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  Speaker 4: so then you move on. I mean, that's the chance
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  Speaker 4: you have to take, and you're in this position. I
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  Speaker 4: think the only thing that I hesitate with it on
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  Speaker 4: is like, does that now make them say, well, we
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  Speaker 4: don't need to draft a receiver because we have Stefan
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  Speaker 4: Diggs and you know, Matt Collins, and like we have
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  Speaker 4: our receiver additions like I would still hope that they
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  Speaker 4: were going to take another swing receiver in the draft,
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  Speaker 4: at least.
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  Speaker 2: I think this prit says they won't, right, that would
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  Speaker 2: be the only reason why, and especially with the injury.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if he's going to be
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  Speaker 2: ready in September.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they you know right now. I mean Kendrick Bourne
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  Speaker 4: tore his acl right around the same time two years
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  Speaker 4: ago as Diggs did this past year. And Bourne played
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  Speaker 4: twelve games for the Patriots last year, So you're talking
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  Speaker 4: about missing the first month of the season, right mostly.
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  Speaker 2: So I again, if this as long as this doesn't
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  Speaker 2: prohibit them from doing anything else, then why not now.
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  Speaker 2: Tommy Current, I don't know if he was specifically talking
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  Speaker 2: about Diggs, but a few days ago on his podcast,
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  Speaker 2: he was talking about the Patriots are worried about bringing
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  Speaker 2: a receiver onto the team that's going to demand the
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  Speaker 2: ball and what effect that's going to have on Drake May.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know where he's getting that from. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if it's something that he just heard or someone
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  Speaker 2: actually from the team told him that. I find that
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  Speaker 2: a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they were supposed to believe, yeah, they we supposed
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  Speaker 3: to in on DK Metcalf too. Yeah, you know. So
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  Speaker 3: so I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know the credibility of like who told him that or
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  Speaker 2: if it's just something someone's thinking, if it's a true concern.
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  Speaker 2: But if it's true, I don't like it. But I
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  Speaker 2: have a hard time believing that Elliott Wolf or Mike
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  Speaker 2: Vrabel or Josh McDaniel. That's a fear, you know, because like, okay, again,
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  Speaker 2: if you've got to if you've got if you've got
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  Speaker 2: the guy, he can handle.
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  Speaker 8: That, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And also do you have the volume to give to
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  Speaker 4: a receiver like you have the targets to give to
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  Speaker 4: the guy. So I don't imagine once he gets healthy,
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  Speaker 4: as Stefan Diggs is going to be starving for targets
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  Speaker 4: in this offense, Like he's going to be the guy.
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  Speaker 4: He's going to get force fed the ball if anything.
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  Speaker 4: But we were talking on catch twenty two about uh
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  Speaker 4: Luther Burden who is falling out of the first round
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  Speaker 4: and a lot of mock drafts, and most people assume
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  Speaker 4: that it has to do with what went on at
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  Speaker 4: Miszoo last year for him, where he had some of
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  Speaker 4: these sideline antics, you know, Odell Beckham type blow ups
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  Speaker 4: and stuff like that, and that is maybe turn some
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  Speaker 4: people off. But my take on it was just if
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  Speaker 4: I was Mike Rabel, like you're a culture guy, Like,
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  Speaker 4: don't you just trust in yourself and trust in the
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  Speaker 4: program that you're going to be able to bring a
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  Speaker 4: guy like that along and keep that a guy like
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  Speaker 4: that on the rails, Like I would almost rather him
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  Speaker 4: take that approach and that say no, I'll take care
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  Speaker 4: of it, you know, like maybe.
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  Speaker 9: He's been humbled in the last year. You know, you
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  Speaker 9: have an injury like that. Clearly there's not like a
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  Speaker 9: crazy market to sign him, like not to say he's
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  Speaker 9: damaged goods right now, but I don't know, Like life
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  Speaker 9: has a way of humbling you sometimes, and if you
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  Speaker 9: come into a new culture with a new mindset, it's
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  Speaker 9: kind of hard to rule out and say he's just
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  Speaker 9: going to come in and be a diva.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great point. I mean he's out there, no
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  Speaker 2: one signed him yet, so maybe he has, you know,
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  Speaker 2: come down a little bit. And I think, like you
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  Speaker 2: said with Rabel, you set that expectation that they want, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: we want you here, but you know, our main you
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  Speaker 2: have to is to win football games, not get Stefan
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  Speaker 2: Diggs his numbers. As long as you're up, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we believe that getting you balls is going to help
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  Speaker 2: us win. But there might be some games where it's
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  Speaker 2: run first.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's hard to believe.
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  Speaker 2: You set that expectation up front.
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  Speaker 9: It's hard to believe Raebel would let a player like
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  Speaker 9: walk all over him like that. You like, it's just
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  Speaker 9: not hard to believe, it's inconceivable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I like that the infrastructure they've added, and I think
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  Speaker 3: you know, all four of those guys that we met
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  Speaker 3: last week and the press conferences just came off as
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  Speaker 3: outstanding members of the team. And I am very interested
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  Speaker 3: in what Alice said. I I am a little skeptical
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  Speaker 3: that he tours ACL and now he's humbled. But maybe
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  Speaker 3: the interest on the market has humbled him a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: and that's why he's That's what I'm But I think
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  Speaker 3: if he was healthy, there's no question he's a number one.
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  Speaker 3: He's the best available wide receiver.
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  Speaker 9: And there's a whole narrative out about him now, like
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  Speaker 9: the way it ended in Buffalo. So it's like, is
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  Speaker 9: that a reputation he wants and he thinks is fair?
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  Speaker 6: Me?
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  Speaker 10: He wants to do everything he can to overcome that reputation,
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  Speaker 10: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he wants the narrative to be look
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  Speaker 2: what I did when I came to Buffalo for josh Allah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean that is the narrative for a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people. And maybe he looks at Drake May
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  Speaker 4: and says, I'll do the same thing. Right, I'm a
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  Speaker 4: little older, but I'll come in and you know, we'll
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  Speaker 4: get Drake Mada where we got josh Allen, you know, right,
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  Speaker 4: Josh Allen twenty nineteen was his second year, had a
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  Speaker 4: really good year. They went ten and six. They get
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  Speaker 4: Stefon Diggs there and the AFC Championship Game the next year,
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  Speaker 4: right like that, and he was the best receiver in
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  Speaker 4: football in his first year in Buffalo. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 4: he's gonna put up fifteen hundred yards with the Patriots,
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  Speaker 4: but you look at what he did for Alan and
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  Speaker 4: there's no doubt that it was a big part of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So that's on the table. And then I mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: now I could be wrong. I thought it was Mark
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  Speaker 2: Daniels had a report about at least a handful of
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  Speaker 2: tackles that the Patriots took swings at in Kenya short
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  Speaker 2: well so far in the offseason, and of course the
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  Speaker 2: outrage followed. You know, what are they doing? Why can't
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  Speaker 2: they know? Why are they cheaping out on these people?
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know the details of each one and
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  Speaker 2: exactly why it flew under the radar, you know, because
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  Speaker 2: at the time, obviously when they were showing interest and
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  Speaker 2: negotiating with these people and their agents, we didn't hear
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  Speaker 2: about it. So this is all after the fact stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But what do you think. I just I don't know
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  Speaker 2: much more.
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  Speaker 3: You can ask for them, like they are in on
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  Speaker 3: everybody that they should be in on, going back to
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  Speaker 3: last year with the receivers that they were in on.
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  Speaker 3: They're not going to get everybody. They're a bad team
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  Speaker 3: the last two years. They need to get the momentum
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  Speaker 3: going again. Not everyone's going to want to come here,
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  Speaker 3: even if they're going to get a big pay bump.
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  Speaker 3: But the fact that they're you know, showing interest in
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know all these reports you can probably
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  Speaker 3: say some of them maybe are true. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: exactly what the true scenario is are they in on?
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  Speaker 3: But it sure sounds like any receiver, any tackle anybody
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  Speaker 3: who hits the market, they're at least reaching out.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like they're signing on their hands and define interest,
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  Speaker 2: because interest could simply be talking to the agents. You know,
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  Speaker 2: here's here's kind of where we go. You know, what
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  Speaker 2: are you asking for this type of thing. There's varying
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  Speaker 2: degrees of interest. Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's the interest
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  Speaker 2: that you show in uh, you know some of the
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  Speaker 2: guys that you know, we brought in last week. And
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  Speaker 2: then there's you know, casual interest just hey, we're doing
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  Speaker 2: our due diligence. So I don't know the level of
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  Speaker 2: interest that they had. But if it did come down
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  Speaker 2: to money, if the reason why they missed on any
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  Speaker 2: one of these guys was purely money, how do you
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  Speaker 2: feel about that?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it depends on the player. Like you know, I
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  Speaker 4: wrote something today about the offensive line and Dan Moore Junior,
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  Speaker 4: in my mind, got the worst contract in free agency.
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  Speaker 4: The Titans are paying him twenty million dollars a year
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  Speaker 4: to play left tackle. He gave up the most sacks
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  Speaker 4: in the league last year in Pittsburgh, So that to
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  Speaker 4: me was a horrible contract by Tennessee. But that doesn't
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  Speaker 4: mean you know that the Patriots were in I don't
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  Speaker 4: know that was the reporting. I think from Mark and
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  Speaker 4: other people that they showed us some interest in Dan
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  Speaker 4: Moore Junior. But I have no problem what's ever with
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  Speaker 4: them tapping out on that one and saying, we're not
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  Speaker 4: going to pay this guy twenty million dollars a year.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Moore is the other big one that went from
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  Speaker 4: San Francisco to the Chiefs, and he's been a spot
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  Speaker 4: starter for San Francisco and Trent Williams is in and
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  Speaker 4: out of the lineup. He has been starting at left tackle,
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  Speaker 4: so over four years in San Francisco, he has twelve
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  Speaker 4: starts under his belt, so he is definitely not a
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  Speaker 4: short things. Has some really good tape, but it's not
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  Speaker 4: you know, there's not a lot of volume there with him.
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  Speaker 4: So those are the two top left tackles that have
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  Speaker 4: moved so far, and both those guys have real question
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  Speaker 4: marks at the position. So I don't know if the
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  Speaker 4: Patriots were in a position to pay a guy starter
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  Speaker 4: money that's only started twelve games in his career over
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  Speaker 4: four years, like they the Chiefs can take that chance.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they have a little bit of that built
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  Speaker 4: up equity, but I don't know if the Patriots do.
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  Speaker 4: I think the one that you second guess a little
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  Speaker 4: bit is Cam Robinson. And there's conflicting reports about whether
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  Speaker 4: or not they were in on Cam Robinson. Some people
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  Speaker 4: say yes, some people say no. But he signed a
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  Speaker 4: one year, twelve and a half million dollar deal with
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  Speaker 4: the Texans. There wasn't a great market for him. Some
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  Speaker 4: people thought he was going to cash in. He did not.
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  Speaker 4: The Patriots as a stopgap, as a bridge to a
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  Speaker 4: rookie made a lot of sense for them, but he
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  Speaker 4: picked to go to Houston.
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  Speaker 3: Got a wonder with Doug Maron being here that I
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  Speaker 3: just think he's a great example of a lot of
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  Speaker 3: what we deal with in free agency. When a guy
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  Speaker 3: has a name, no matter how good he was or
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  Speaker 3: wasn't last season. You know his name, maybe he was
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  Speaker 3: a former first round pick. People are just make it happen.
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  Speaker 3: Make it happen. He must be good because he has
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: I know his name, right, but you don't know. I mean,
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: speak left it in the content speaking of someone whose
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: name we know.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: I would sign Tyron Smith, not necessarily to be a starter,
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: to be the left tackle on Day one, but to
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: be a guy on your depth chart who can play
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: left or right side as tackle, has a lot of
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: veteran experience. Guys are gonna get hurt, you know, Morgan
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: Moses might miss a few games. Whoever where you bring
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: in at left tackle might miss. And having Tyron Smith
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: and I think the money wouldn't be crazy having me
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: having an on your team gives me a level of
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: security to have that type of experience on my on
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: my bench. I think it's worth doing. He's out there.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: And if he has to start day one, he can
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: start day one.
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: Oh, I think he can still start. I mean he
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: was a starter, ving starter caliber player for the Jets
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: last year at left tackle. Uh, he's still a good player.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: I mean I would say he's probably at this point
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: like a serviceable starter, not like a Hall of Fame
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: starter like he was a couple of years ago in Dallas,
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: but as a bridge to a highly drafted rookie. And
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: there's nobody better to learn how to play left tackle
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: from than Tyron Smith. So if you if you draft
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: Will Campbell, or you draft you know somebody maybe even
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: a little bit later like connorly Ursery or something like that,
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: and you hand him to Tyron Smith and say, you know, Yoda,
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: teach him right.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: The thing is, he's not good Will Campbell or very
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: few people are gonna be able to do what Tyron
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Smith did. I mean, I think he's a Hall of Famer. Uh.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: And his measurables are perfect, like they're they're they're the
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: prototypical left tackle measurables.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I just think there's something to be said
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: for even just watching a guy like that practice and
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: watching it and watching him go about his business exactly.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: They could surgically remove an inch from each of his
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: arms and give it to Will Campbell and he still
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: would still.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Have above the threshold arm. Now he's not going to
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: practice every day. I mean, you're gonna have to manage
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: a guy like Tyron's. I think it's worth it. I do.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: What are the other options, right, just to have him
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: on the team, you know, again, if you have to,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: if you haven't solved left tackle on day one, he
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: starts on day one. If it's Will Campbell, I want
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Will Campbell starting on day one. But like I said,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: injuries are gonna happen, you know, and you have this
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: guy on your bench ready to go, you know, when
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: you need him.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: The contractor Jets signed him to last year is really
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: appealing to me. It was a one year incentive laiden deal.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: If he plays, he makes franchise tackle money. If he
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: doesn't play, he doesn't get paid. And in that contract
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: it was you know, that's exactly what I would look
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: forward with the Patriots to do. Is one year. You
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: can probably max out at eighteen twenty million dollars a
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: year if you have a really, really good, you know,
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: Pro Bowl level season. But if not, then you know,
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: they can put him on the bench. But if the
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: rookie beats him out or whatever the case may be,
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: but you're gonna have to throw a lot of money
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: at him. I think you think you think so well
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: at thirty four, like, I would imagine that his incentive
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: of playing right now is money in rings, right Like,
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: I can't really think of any other reason for him
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: to be playing. So if you're going to get him
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: to come to a place like this, it's going to
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: have to be money.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I mean I I just remember, I didn't
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: think that the deal that the Jets signed with him
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: broke the bank last year.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: It was it was very incentive based, so it. You know,
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: it always gets reported about the max value of these contracts.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: So I think that for Tyrontsant to come here, like
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: you're probably talking about sixteen to eighteen million dollars.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Let me get on the phone with him. And that
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: that leads me to the next point. You know, when
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: it comes to the Patriots showing interest in these guys
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, not getting it done. My question is,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: who's the closer here. Who's the guy who makes the
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: closing pitch?
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Is it Rabel?
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Is it Elliott Wolf? I don't know.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: I mean I like Rabel in that role. Yeah, I
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: mean that seems like he's the kind of guy that
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: can cut through the bs and be like, look, this
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: is what this team's going to be, this is how
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I want you to play. I'm going to be a
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: straight shooter with you. I think that's you know, that's.
• 18:36
  Speaker 10: The command's respect.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and I think as we've seen from
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: all these guys, they have such respect for him. Yeah,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: having done it in the league, and that to me
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: seems like the perfect you know, let Elliott work out
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: the deals. The parameters.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Part of the media, maybe you know, in the next
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: press conference, that'd be a question I would ask, Forrabel,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: who's your closer? Is it you? Like, who's that guy
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: that closes the.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not the linemen that had been floated out
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: for them though, Like none of those guys were guys
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: that I would have breaked the bank for, Like if
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Ronnie Stanley had hit free agency, I'm backing up the
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Brinks truck, Like, whatever it takes to get that player here,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: you know what they tried to do. It sounds like
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: with Chris Godwin right, like you're offering him five ten
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: million dollars over market value to try to get him here.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: But the fact that they didn't do that for Dan
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Moore Junior or Patrick McCarry or like any of those
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: other guys, Like, I'm not gonna get all up in
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: arms about that, you know. I think Morgan Moses was
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: a really solid signing. I like Garrett Bradbury more than
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: a lot of other people, but I think that's a
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: really solid move for them at center. So like I'm
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: okay with those moves, Like they obviously still have a
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: left tackle hole, but.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I mean Minnesota has a young guy now who's on
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: a rookie contract or what's the second year.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Well, they signed Ryan Kelly. Yeah for the time being.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's on a shorter, you know, a smaller contract,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: and they think he's a little bit better than Bradbury.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: So they felt that Bradbury's expendable. That doesn't mean Bradbury
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: is not a good player anymore.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: No, It's also just every year in free agency you
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: want to plug all your holes. And it doesn't necessarily
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: mean that like he has to be the starter and
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: that's it and we're set for the future. It's get
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: solid NFL players and he's a starting caliber center and
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: then try to if you get a chance to upgrade
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: in the draft, and you know you don't have to
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: reach for needs. I still just look at left tackle
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: and you know, if they're able to find a number
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: one type wide receiver, those are the two glaring holes
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: to me on the roster. Otherwise, I think that they
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: have a pretty solid baseline to go into the draft
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: and start to stack real talent, which is what we'll
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: take this team and.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Ryan Wrights in. With the Patriots having more money than
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: they can realistically spend, I'd love to see them over
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: pay for Digs for two years, Tyron Smith for one year.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: What's the downside, even if they draft to tackle at four,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: let him sit behind Smith for a little while. That's
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: what the Jets did last year. As much as I
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: hate doing anything, the Jets thought was smart.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Just stealing both their tackles from last year.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean I like adding the second
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: year to Diggs's contract because if he does bow back
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: and he has a big year, then you have him
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: under team control for twenty six, which I think would
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: be appealing. But at this point, you offer those types
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: of contracts and you have the cap space to absorb it.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Just one year two year deals, like, don't overextend in
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: terms of term, but I think you can get those
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: guys at this point free agency.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: What other topics do we need to put on the table.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Well, they signed the linebacker yesterday, Jack Gibbons, who was
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: with Rabel down to Tennessee. You know, kind of similar
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: play style to Spalline. I would say they're just both
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: too off the ball linebackers who play fast and you know,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: really rally to the ball. Saw the report today that
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Jawan Bentley has dropped some weight from Mike Gardi these
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: down in the two thirties. I think all these things
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: are signaling what we kind of know that this is
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: going to be an up the field, attacking, fly to
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: the ball kind of defense, not a two gaping you know,
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: build the wall, hold guys up. It's going to be
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: a lot different.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I think what's on the schedule this year that's more
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: of a power team that you know, if you are
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: a smaller fan, aster team might be a little bit
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: of a matchup challenge.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: It's a good question. I haven't looked that far.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're playing the AFC North, so those are
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: obviously a lot of tough teams. You know, maybe Miami,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can maybe convince me Miami, you know
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: that's the kind of team you want to you know,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: our first speech speed, Well, just be able.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: To know I'm talking about like a team that we
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: would if we are speed you know.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well the Ravens, the AFC North teams tend to,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: you know, play that style of football. But you know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I just I think it's there's more than one way
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: to skin a cat, and I think all defenses. It's
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: just if they play together and everybody buys in, uh,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: then you know it can be good. It doesn't matter
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: what what you want to play. Three four you want
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: to you know, four to three, all that stuff, like
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: just play hard and get everybody together. But I'm really
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: curious with that signing with him. Where does where does
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Bentley fit in? And where does you know Jilani Tavai
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: fit in in this defense? You know, I just I
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: think they're setting up for competition, and you know, it
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: seems like the message has been sent to Bentley like
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: we're gonna ask a little different of you this year,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: and it seems like he's trying to do his best
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: to fit into their plans.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So the Raiders reportedly signed Christian Ellis to an
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: offer sheet, and then the Patriots reacted to that by
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: signing Jack Gibbons, which tells me that they're probably not
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: going to match Christian Ellis's off for sheet. They're very
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: similar players, you know, kind of depth inside linebacker, course,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: special teamer types, you know, athletic guys, tackle guys, you
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: know that kind of thing. I think that they're probably
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: redundant to each other, so that might be what that
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: move was all about. But I would like to see
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: them play Bentley and Splain together. I think, you know,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: there's still a big role for that sledgehammer like Bentley
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: in the middle. I think they missed him last year
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: on their run. Yeah, let's fly around exactly, keep him clean,
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: let him fly around and you know, chase the football
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: that Bentley do his thing in the trenches and you
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: have a nice little one two punch there. But you know,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: to buy it's an interesting one, Like you know, if
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: those two guys are going to be your starting inside linebackers,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Like where is that leave to bue?
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: I just wonder. I mean, it's probably more Jennings, a
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: strong side outside linebacker standing up when you're in base.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that's where he is. Maybe he's a little
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: more athletic than than Jennings is on the edge. I mean,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: that's kind of where I'm shoehorning him in. But it's
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: it's hard to see. I mean, the way splane runs,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: it's it's gonna be hard to take him off the field.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ye, John and Derby England says, just quick question, who,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: in your opinion is the best O lineman in Patriots history.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Surely it's John Hannah, I would agree. Surely you m
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame Canton Patriots Hall of Fame coincidentally taken
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: at number four in his draft class. Surely Will Campbell
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: is a no brainer, as he can slot into Hannah's
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: position if he struggles to tackle, and let's be honest,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: if he is half the player Hannah was, then this
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: will be a home run all day long. We can
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: trade back into the later first round for a decent receiver,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: but for me, it has to be Campbell at four.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: You know, I think we spent so much time.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I saw a mod draft today that had us trading
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: down to I think eight and still being able to
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: take Campbell.
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't seem crazy, but I think I spent
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: so much time in the last couple of weeks talking
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: about Campbell's length. Like maybe on the positive side, it's
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: like this guy runs like the wind and I forget
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: what the number was exactly, but with like the tracking
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: something crazy, like he's hitting like eighteen miles an hour
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: out there getting down the field. So I just don't
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: want to spend too much time on Will Campbell, just
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: relentlessly talking about his arm link when like the guy
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: is a super athlete, like crazy good athlete. I don't
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: know if it'll all translate to tackle, but I still
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I've never closed the door on Will Campbell. I think
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: he's a great player. I mean, when I see him talk,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: it just reminds me of a vable kind of guy,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: and that to me is a good indication that hey,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: maybe it doesn't work out at left tackle, but we
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: all know they just they need to build the line
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: up and having a guy in the middle who's really
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: good that's going to be a benefit for Drake Maye too.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean my first reaction to the arm line
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: thing was obviously to roll it out, just because I
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: don't think that there's a great path for him being
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: a high level tackle with his measurables. But at the
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: same time, now we get closer to it, it's like
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: such a frable guy like is intangibles are just off
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: the charts. You know, he's one of those guys that
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: is going to be a captain in his second year
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: and just like lead the room for a decade. Like
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: whether he's a guard, whether he's a tackle, he's going
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: to do those types of things. I love the story
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: about him wearing number seven as a patch on his
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: jersey because he wasn't eligible to wear number seven in
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: the games, and number seven is LSU's best player on
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: the roster. Period on either side of the ball, they
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: give the number seven out to that player. So he
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: wore the number seven as a little patch on his
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: jersey last year at LSU. So that just tells you,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: like what they thought of him, like as a as
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: a player and as a human being. So I just
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: when you hear all that stuff and then you put
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: it together with the need on the offensive line that
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: the Patriots have, it's like, I mean, how can you
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: really talk yourself out of it? At that point?
• 26:56
  Speaker 9: He choosers element to his sense for me at least personally, like,
• 26:59
  Speaker 9: I mean, you guys have given a lot of credence
• 27:02
  Speaker 9: to the arm length here and there, but for me personally,
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: it's like it seems like such a I know it's significant,
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: but it's like, how can you just turn away?
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I'm really warming talking about Campbell. Yeah, I'm warming up
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: to him at four. I just think he's going to
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: be a good football player.
• 27:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and unless Carter are still there, which just feels
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: more unrealistic every day.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: It's like, haven't lost when you get to that next
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: group too, Like they're all imperfect prospects. So like now
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: we're just talking about who's the best for the Patriots,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: and like Ted McMillan is a slow receiver, Like do
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: you want to draft a guy that ran a four
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: four five at his pro day at four overall? You know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Mason Graham is a smaller interior defensive tackle like that
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: that is not as much of a I would say
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: outlier as Will Campbell's arm length, but it's still not ideal.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: So all these guys, you know, gents are running back
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: like so like you're you're talking about, there's no really
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: consensus answer. Like last year we could all get our
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: heads around Drake May like that was a consensus slam
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: dunk pick. This year, if Hunter and Carter aren't there,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: there isn't one, So you can talk yourself into anything.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, some people are saying, if Travis Hunter is
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: there and you should you should trade down. That was
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: the mock I saw today. The team that moved up
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: into the Patriots slot took Hunter, No was it Hunter
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: or Carter? One of the two took them, and we
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: moved down and ended up still being able to take
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Will Campbell.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: That'd be disappointing to me.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: I don't think you can do that.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I think if Carter Hunter there, those those guys are special.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: You would really well, your gun would have to be right.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: But the one thing I didn't see, and I didn't
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: click on the Bitley link or whatever, But I don't
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: know what the Patriots got in return.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Right, No, I think I saw the one you're saying,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: and it wasn't another first round pick the round. Yeah,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: but they traded down to like eleven or something.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so they must have gotten quite a bit
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: in return. So like, if you can get another two
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: win of three this year, I mean, and now you
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: have stuff to package to move up back into the
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: first round at the bottom, or extra picks in the
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: second round to pick tackles and wide receiver, you know,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Would you pass on Cutter Hunter for a next year one?
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not passing on either of those guys,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: and I don't think they will either. Like I don't
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: know as much about Abdul Carter, but I cannot get
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: the conversation that we had with Elliott Wolf at the
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Combine out of my head when we started talking about
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Travis Hunter, Like, so you're telling me that that that
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: guy is going to pass on that player? No chance.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Here's a little bit. And again I haven't really delve
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: into tape. But whenever somebody puts a melt together of
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Hunter highlights at receiver, they're always the same four or
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: five clips.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: I mean he had he had sixteen touchdowns and like.
• 29:56
  Speaker 11: A lot of them.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a lot of red zone touchdowns. Some
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: of that I think is more about the offense than anything,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Like they couldn't protect the quarterback so you know, getting
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: him down the field was.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: He didn't have any well you know, and I shouldn't
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: hold this against him, but he didn't have one touchdown
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: over sixty yards, which you know, Yeah, I mean I
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: think he had a lot of that is a circumstance.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: I think he had one that was like fifty one.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: His uh, he is a natural receiver, but he's not
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: a refined receiver. Like he's got natural instincts for the position.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: But if he's going to play a receiver full time,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: then he's gonna have to get in the lab and
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: work on some of the details of the position.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Now. But where I do see the natural ability and
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: its apparent it is that cornerback, Like it's just his makeup, speed,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: his instincts, his hands, his ability to just be in
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: the pocket with the receiver, you know, and even when
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: he's not, like I said, the makeup speed, knowing when
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: to break on the ball. I think he's right away,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: he's he's a pro bowl cornerback right out of the gate.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting how the rosters lining up now, like
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: how we would fit in and how they might work that.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, you love, you know, having Calton Davis on
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: the outside. Now you feel like outside is kind of
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: taken care of. I still think slot's a big question,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: and I don't I mean that might be where he is,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: you know, like you wait, put him out there on
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: third downs and you know, put him, move him around
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: and he can kind of well, you know, he doesn't
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: have to play.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't love him in the slot, and I
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: don't think he's not He's not I don't think overly
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: sticky in that sense, like if you're going to have
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: him cover like little slot receivers and stuff like that,
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure that that's necessarily his strength. His strength
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: is his his length, his ball skills, his ballhowking ability
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: like all those types of things. So I don't know
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: if the slot would necessarily be the best spot for
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: him at corner. But I mean you can't go wrong
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: with him on either side of the ball. And I
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: just think at receiver and I thought Andrew Berry the
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Browns GM put it perfectly like a receiver, he's going
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: to touch the ball five to ten times a game
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: at corner, maybe he touches it once, right, So, like,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: if you have a guy with this kind of game
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: breaking ability in terms of play speed and all that
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: kind of stuff, like, wouldn't you want him to play
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: the position where he's going to impact the game the most.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: And that's clearly going to be at wide receivers.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: I mean you could get asked in gents about thirty
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: touches a game out of if you're interested. No, I
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: mean I look at Stefan Diggs and his skill as
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: a route runner, and if you could give that to
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Travis Hunter and MRT, I mean you would really be
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: cooking with something with that guy.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Floyd and Redford Michigan says, please stop this intangible talk
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: with Will Campbell and to hear Alex bring up beggars
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: not being choosers. Please tell me the last time a
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: desperate person made a good decision.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Oh that's tough.
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: Well, it's either make it, like what's the alternative.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Well, I just whether you like it or not, they
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: care about the intangible stuff, so like caout it, whether
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: we care about it, whether the listeners care about it,
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: And so the intangibles he's talking about is just his attitude, leadership, leadership,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: and yeah, listen, I think it matters. I think it
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: does matter.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: It matters to me one hundred percent. And I mean
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: I wish Paul was here because he probably, you know,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: make fun of me for still believing in Santa Claus.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: But nothing's going to shake me from building a team,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: you know, building a team finding the right guys. And
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: that's what incited me last week is these are the
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: kind of guys that you build the locker room around
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: and you know, can change the culture.
• 33:28
  Speaker 10: And these guys don't grow on trees.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's and it seems like they did their
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: homework with These were verbels kind of guys, and that
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: has colored how I look at a lot of these
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: draft prospects. So do I think that, you know, if
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs got here and started to, you know, get
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: a little gripy about things like I trust that Josh
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: McDaniels and Mike Vrabel, you know have the skill to
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: handle that, and I also feel like they're rebuilding the
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: infrastructure that they need. But to me, a good football
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: team and I just this is my personal experience. The
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: best teams I were on were the teams where we
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: weren't necessarily the most talented, but we were always the
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: team that was all pulling together and everybody got what
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: we were trying to do. And we had more talented
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: teams with guys who are painting the ass and you know,
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: we're over in the side of the locker room trying
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: to stir discension about the coach, and those teams always
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: had huge disappointments, So I know you're kind of chasing
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: a moving target with this kind of thing. You're never
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: going to have a team full of boy scouts, but
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: it means the NFL especially, you know, it's really hard
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: to have that. But it's important to me, and it's
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: certainly something that I look at when I'm considering all
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: these guys.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Especially in your one of a program, Like if we
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: were three years into Mike Rabel, then it might be
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: a little bit different, but they're trying to establish something here,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: like they're trying to lay a foundation and when we
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: were at the Senior Bowl. I asked Ryan Cowden, like,
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: what's a Verabel player? And he said, I know it
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: sounds cliche, but effort and finish. Like we are going
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: to be about effort and finish and everybody that we
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: are going to invest in is going to play that way.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: And when you look at the free agent signings, they're
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: all those types of guys. You know, we talk about
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: that with Robert Splain especially, but it's it's pretty much
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: everybody across the board plays with a really good motor
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: and a really good you know, effort and finish and
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: their professionals and like all that kind of stuff, and
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: that's like a baseline half to have.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I think on defense, certainly, you know, defense you
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: can make up for, you know, a lack of talent
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: to a certain degree with your effort and how you finish.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: On offense, you know, on the line you can still
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: but you need some talent. We need to get some
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: talent onto this team. We need an infusion of talent.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: We need to weaponize the offense.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: I didn't use that one this year.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Uh, Nate's in Connecticut, He's on the hot line. What's up, Nate?
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: Hi guys, can you guys hear me? I had a
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: couple of questions and thoughts in regards to a linebacker position.
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: I know, we just signed Jack Gibbons and we had
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: Robert Bulane come in, but like, what does this mean
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: for the future of Jawan Bentley? And like you, like
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: I know tav he regressed a lot on this year,
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: and of course Bentley was injured pretty much the entire year.
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: But does this mean that well, obviously it will, but
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: we're gonna have more competition at the linebacker spot. But
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: would you guys be surprised if you saw Jilani Tava
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: or Jowan Bentley's name on the cut down list for
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: fifty three man roster day.
• 36:25
  Speaker 12: But yeah, that's what I have for you, guys.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Think okay, thanks Nate. I think for me Bentley would
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: be a surprise to VI would not YEA.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and I would say, just you know,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: in defensive Jolny Teva, I think he was put in horrible.
• 36:38
  Speaker 10: Position last year that yeah, he was wearing a lot
• 36:40
  Speaker 10: of hats.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: He had to wear a lot of hats, He had
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: to do a lot of things that he's not necessarily
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: cut out for. I think you saw a couple of
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: years ago when he's able to kind of float around
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: with Bentley controlling things in the middle, calling the defense.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: You know, he made some plays, So I agree with
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Evans's point, though. I like thinking about Bentley and Spallaine
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: as the two backers. That's a good company. It's it's
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: you know, Bentley gets a little bit faster. I think
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: he'll fit, but I just I think to buy inherently
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: his body tight. It kind of fits the old defense
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: a little bit more. Now maybe he's doing the same
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: thing that Bentley's doing. Maybe he's you know, losing some
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: weight trying to pick up some speed. I do think
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: that he's still, you know, a pretty good player that
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: has some use. I just I just don't see how
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: he fits exactly at this point. That's one of the
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: things when we get out in O tas, you kind
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: of get a sense of, all, right, where are they
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: putting guys or they you know, they practice in full
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: time and just Nickel or three safety. You know, then
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: you get more of a sense of what packages they're
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: putting together, how they're going to line up and match
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: up against teams, And I think those things will start
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: to come to light a little bit.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: I just think there's always you know, Bentley's we just
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: talked about culture and attitude and effort and finish like
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: that's Jewan Bentley. Yeah, you know, I just I really
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: feel like he's a got that varyable kind of glowed
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: to him definitely, And I like spoiling. I like the signing,
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: but I'll always be for a mic linebacker that can
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: blow up a guard, right, Like it's that simple, Like
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: does it any Like a guy that can come downhill
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: at the line of scrimmage like that is always valuable
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: to me. I still don't think that that's really Spallaine's game,
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: you know, And so I think you have a guy
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: like Bentley that can still do that. Maybe his role
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: is reduced, you know, it's only really early downs, you
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: know and run situations and things like that, But I
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: still think there's a role on the team for that.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I think just real quick for I think interesting thing
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: is like Vrabel part of the defense here, Like they
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: just had such a diverse array of linebackers on the
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: second level where they had Roman Fighter who could run,
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: they had Teddy Johnson who was a big, you know,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: thumper they you know, but I think that that was
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: more of the Belichick defense. Back then, it was really
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: mostly three four and so you always almost always had
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: four linebackers or three on the field at once. So
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: you needed that stable of different kind of types to
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: match up. I don't know if they need that anymore.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: They're gonna they were running primarily three four back then.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you need three lineback today's NFL because you're gonna
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: be You're gonna have two on the field and Nickel
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: and then you you need one guy that can be
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: a serviceable backup right.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Drop down, like a Marty Mapu or something that's a
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: good guy too. Like to talk about Marty Mapoo. How
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: does he fit in? I mean he's a little bit
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: more in the mold of a faster, longer linebacker. I mean,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: it'd say he's definitely bigger than Spallain is. It explains
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: like six to one's talk, there's like six', three you,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Know so where's he fit? IN i think that's a
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: good question.
• 39:16
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• 39:20
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• 39:35
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  Speaker 4: Up, YEAH i mean it's interesting that he doesn't have
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: any critiques of our.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Outfit, question is it too risky to try and trade back.
• 39:44
  Speaker 10: Up into the twenties for a tackle.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: If we GO bpa at four.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Trade backup for tackles in the twenties and, yeah, Yeah simmons, maybe,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah Simmons Connorly.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Orsery last year it was reported that we tried couldn't
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: find a. Partner does that scare wolf this year to
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: try to do the.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Same, yeah it's it's not a great tackle, class especially
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: on the left, side and you, know just trying to
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: make my way through some of those you, know third,
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: round fourth round guys now and, uh there's a pretty
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: big drop off after The connorley's And urseries of The.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: World's like once you get to pass, that you're Talking
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Anthony belton And Charles grant From william And, mary who's
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: a small school. GUY i, think you, know guys Like
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: mylom And, Zabel like those guys are all gonna play
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: inside at the next, level so like they're Not i'm
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: not really even considering. Them you, Know Donovan jackson From Ohio.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: STATE i think those guys are all. Guards so, uh
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: it's uh it thins out, quickly it drops off really.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: Quickly so if there's a tackle run in the, twenties
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: you better get on the train because if you, don't
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: then you're not getting a starter this year out of
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: the draft and at left.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Tackle, Uh deshaun's In. Virginia, Hey DeShawn.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: Them.
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  Speaker 2: Good.
• 41:00
  Speaker 13: Uh the first THING i wanted to touch on is
• 41:02
  Speaker 13: when it comes to the character and culture or, whatever
• 41:06
  Speaker 13: you get a lot of those things to get in
• 41:07
  Speaker 13: the way of trying to get players good, players Because
• 41:09
  Speaker 13: i'm pretty sure that if you believe that your culture
• 41:11
  Speaker 13: and stuff is so, Strong i'm appy sure you can
• 41:13
  Speaker 13: instill uh that mindset into guys lee or a, problematic a
• 41:17
  Speaker 13: problematic at first rooming to be who you want them to,
• 41:20
  Speaker 13: be especially with the way they seem is. FORMER i
• 41:22
  Speaker 13: think he can actually uh start accumulating some win if
• 41:26
  Speaker 13: they get some time on the office the. End, now
• 41:27
  Speaker 13: when it comes to the, DRAFT i don't believe That
• 41:30
  Speaker 13: Will campl's is the BEST i talk on the. DRAFT i,
• 41:32
  Speaker 13: MEAN i really prefer dude out Of Ohio. State, WELL
• 41:35
  Speaker 13: i PREFER i to do out Of. Oregon and also
• 41:37
  Speaker 13: we're gonna when it comes To trump's, HUNTS i don't
• 41:39
  Speaker 13: believe he's a uh you, know uh a time as the.
• 41:42
  Speaker 13: Receiver he's a good, cornerback but we got enough cornerbacks
• 41:45
  Speaker 13: from the roster right, Now SO i MEAN i want
• 41:48
  Speaker 13: to fear receiver at that that. Spot even people get
• 41:51
  Speaker 13: on people get me About tug, mcbellan But i'm just
• 41:54
  Speaker 13: saying he's a great comparison to the guys like By Mike,
• 41:56
  Speaker 13: evans you, know or Dre wonnon or. Whatever, like he
• 41:59
  Speaker 13: played a lot better on the field WHEN i watched
• 42:01
  Speaker 13: the teat so the, COMBAT i just watched how he
• 42:05
  Speaker 13: plays on the. Field that's ALL i really wanted to.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Say, okay, okay thanks thanks To. Shawn, YEAH i mean
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: out On Will campbell And Travis.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Hunter we we continue to do The Josh simmons. Dance
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: Like Josh simmons is. Hurt he tore his ptell attendant
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: in his knee In, november Late, october Early. November he's
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: gonna miss a year of, football so he's a red
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: shirt player for his rookie. Season and if you're The,
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Patriots like you need somebody that can contribute this, Year,
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: like you can't be drafting guys in the top fifty
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: that aren't going to play as rookies on this. Team
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: so he's a great, player it went, healthy and it's
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: a great fit for teams that can take that. Chance
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: Like i've been thinking of him To Kansas city for
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: a while, now you, know just because of. That BUT
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: i just don't see how that lines up for The,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Patriots like if they take a guy like, that you
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: know at the end of the first, round that's not
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: gonna play his entire rookie.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Season like if you pick if you pick a guy
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: like that and he red shirts is for does his contract?
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Told does it?
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: No it does, No so he'd, like you, know that's
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: another year of service time that's like off the. Contract you,
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: know he's a really talented player and there was a,
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: chance you, know he was tracking towards being the best
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: tackle in the class if he had stayed, healthy but he,
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: didn't so we can you, know that's is what that.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Is you, Know connorly is a really talented, guy but he's.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Raw you, know he's gonna it's gonna take him some
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: time he's, young he's a raw, player but really high.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Ceiling So i'm not out on him at, All BUT
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: i just think, that you, know those are two guys
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: That Will campbell's in a little bit more of a
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: proven commodity type. Category ryan's An.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Idaho Hey, ryan what do you?
• 43:42
  Speaker 12: Know, hey, guys thanks for taking my phone. Call, hey,
• 43:46
  Speaker 12: hey So i'm a voice idatus. Here, So, MIKE i
• 43:51
  Speaker 12: was really excited WHEN i obviously saw your monstraft passion
• 43:56
  Speaker 12: by far the best player that has ever played Your Boise,
• 44:00
  Speaker 12: state you, know runner.
• 44:02
  Speaker 13: Up as A.
• 44:02
  Speaker 12: Heisman he had almost a you, know season record for
• 44:08
  Speaker 12: rushing yards and again was just like the biggest weapon
• 44:12
  Speaker 12: that we had on. Offense, Right and SO i felt
• 44:15
  Speaker 12: like On tuesday on the podcast AS i was driving,
• 44:18
  Speaker 12: home you, know it's kind of raising my blood pressure because,
• 44:21
  Speaker 12: byfically you, Know, paul WHICH i know he's not there,
• 44:24
  Speaker 12: today it seems to question the talent of the player, himself,
• 44:28
  Speaker 12: RIGHT i mean when you look At gens compared to
• 44:31
  Speaker 12: just the talent level of the players around, HIM i, mean,
• 44:34
  Speaker 12: he in my, opinion is the third best player in this.
• 44:36
  Speaker 12: Draft and so for The patriots who need just a
• 44:39
  Speaker 12: desperate injection of talent right on their, offense a weapon
• 44:44
  Speaker 12: Like gent who is better in the receiving game THAN
• 44:47
  Speaker 12: i think he gets credit. FOR i, mean as a
• 44:49
  Speaker 12: career receiver At Boise, state he had eighty, catches eight hundred,
• 44:52
  Speaker 12: yards a few touchdowns. THERE i mean he's a.
• 44:55
  Speaker 13: Weapon so is there value?
• 44:58
  Speaker 12: GUYS i, mean and just taking a weapon in injecting
• 45:01
  Speaker 12: that into our.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Offense, YEAH i mean about.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: IT i mean that's the.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Argument that's the.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: ARGUMENT i, MEAN i would just tie it to What
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: evan's tied with With Will campbell that you, know it's
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: The patriots need a lot and you just really want
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: to make sure you don't miss on this, pick and
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: you start to get into valuing positions and what's more
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Valuable Will campbell is a left guard Or Ashton genty
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: is a running? Back you, know both. POSITIONS i think
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: most people in THE nfl would look at as you'll
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: figure it. Out BUT i think there's you, know AND i,
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Look i'm not like starting the parade For Ashton genty
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: or ANY i, MEAN i JUST i think it's a
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: worthwhile conversation because The patriots offense has been stagnant for too,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: long AND i think it might help you get out of.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: THAT i think he's a little bit better than you,
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: know the rest of this very good running back. Class
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: but you, know that just gets back to the point
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: of when you have a good class at a, position
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: do you want the best one or you, okay just
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: getting one of the, Guys and you know there's pros
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: and cons for both sides of. THAT i JUST i,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: mean ultimately the end of the, Day i'm probably not
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: going to Take Ashton genty at fourth. Overall BUT i
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: do think that it's a worthy.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Conversation, YEAH i don't think it's it's ridiculous people probably.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: In a fun. Way, NO.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think it. IS I i don't think it.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: IS i THINK i, mean A raider fan is gonna
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: flame when he if you goes six to The raiders
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Or raider fans feel, like.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, god, yes.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. YEAH i Mean i'm not, LIKE i don't want
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: to speak For, paul but there's no deny Like ryan's, Right,
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: like there's no denying his talent like. That no one's
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: saying that he's not a talented. Player he's uberly talented running.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: Back but it just doesn't for me. Personally it's it's
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: a positional, Thing like it's just purely a positional value
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: thing and just HOW i value running backs in. General
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: and there might be a gap between him and the
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: rest of this running back, class but there's so many
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: great running backs in this class that you can have
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: On day two And day three of the draft that
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: are still going to come in and make an impact that,
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: like why would you waste the fourth over.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Pick somehow end up With Will campbell And Ashton? Genty
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: would you be happy with?
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: THAT i mean you, can't but sure why Because Ashton
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: genty's they're both going to go in the top. Ten,
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: well what If i'm talking about trading back from thirty?
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Eight? Yeah, no from? Four, yeah still be able to
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: At Will. Campbell then trading back up from thirty, Eight,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: WELL i, mean depending on what DID i get from my,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: TRADE i might have now the ammunition to do.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: That you get you're not going to have a higher
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: pick than thirty.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Eight but you go to The raiders at. Six The
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: raiders give you their second round, pick so you package
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: them the two, sects so you pick it that at,
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: six you Take campbell Or, Genty then you package the
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: two second rounders things to go up twenty. Spots maybe
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: not quite.
• 47:48
  Speaker 14: Twenty but that's the, thing you, know like every work
• 47:51
  Speaker 14: with me, Here, Evan i'm trying to let the fact
• 47:55
  Speaker 14: running back we you, know admittedly is a devalued. Position
• 47:59
  Speaker 14: in the, end maybe he doesn't go in the top, TEN.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: I think he, will but if he, does like even.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: If he goes, ten some dumb teams like we're talking.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: About having to trade up twenty five spots to get.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: HIM i know that do sound extreme to, Me, yeah
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: BUT i think they'll get a RUNNING i think they
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: GOT i, MEAN i do think that they need to
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: make running back a priority this. YEAR i think they
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: have to get one of these guys that you're talking. About,
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: yeah and there's plenty of opportunities to do that THAT
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: i just, LOOK i mean to get away From ashton
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: gentye of it, All, like how do we really feel
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: right now About Rimondre stevenson And Antonio? Gibson how do
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: you really Feel do you feel great about those two
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: guys coming back this year that you, KNOW.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be like freaking out if we started the
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: season and NOW i wouldn't be freaking out.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Either BUT i also just wonder are we seeing the
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: peak Of, vermondre or you know was two years, ago
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: the peak Of. Vermondre can he get rid of these fumbling?
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: ISSUES i Think Antonio gibson is a nice complimentary, piece
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: but there's a certain appeal to me of looking at
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: any of these a handful of running backs that are
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: all very. Good Devin neil's one that keeps you, know,
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: YEAH i meaning.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: Up it's like ten to twelve.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: GUYS i, said it's a great ad to this room
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: to have a young buck who's going to be pushing
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: these two other veterans and to have some insurance against.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Remonder so over on zero point, five The patriots have
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: a running, back a new running back on the.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: Team i'd be disappointed if they didn't draft.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: EARLY i would bet the. OVER i MEAN i felt,
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: SIMILARLY i don't know if it was last year the
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: year before with the tight end class that was great
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: and we just felt, like, well they gotta grab one
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: right and they. Didn't that was. DISAPPOINTING i think they
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: gotta they gotta tap that. Class they also got to
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: to tap the front seven. CLASS i think they got
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: to get an. Edge they've got to got some kind
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: of that. Class tap that. CLASS i didn't. Know it's
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: just a natural thing to. ME i just got these
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: come out to. Me i'm not really trying to, pause excuse,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: me but.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: The running back, classes IT'S i think at sixty, nine seventy,
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: seven one, six they're going to be running backs at
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: all those spots that are going to be able at
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: the very least to be in a, committee like a
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: really GOOD rb two in a. Committee AND i think
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: that might Help stevenson even. MORE i know a lot
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: of people think about it as him Pushing, stevenson but
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: also just Spelling, stevenson so it's not all On remandre
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: to carry the entire running game on his. BACK i
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: think that would maybe help him a lot, Too like
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: how much were those fumbles about fatigue and about you,
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: know him THINKING i got to make a play right
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: now because who else is going to you? Know so
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: if you have a guy that's a true you, Know
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: batman And robin type, situation like maybe it even helps
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: him even a little bit more in that sense. Too
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: SO i love this running back. CLASS i mean we
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: don't talk enough about amar And hampton on this, show
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: who's also an absolute stud From North, carolina played With
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: Drake may At North carolina and he's going to be
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: a top, twenty top twenty five pick. Too some people
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: have him going as high as like To, dallas you,
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: know in the early. Teens so he's an awesome player as.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: Well so it's just a great.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Class all, right my foods, Here we're going to take
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  Speaker 16: If another addition of pats from the, past and we're
• 52:50
  Speaker 16: pleased to be joined by the best tight end in franchise, History,
• 52:54
  Speaker 16: paul is it the best tight end IN nfl?
• 52:56
  Speaker 17: History we're going to get to, that, Lad i'm going
• 52:57
  Speaker 17: to get that out of here.
• 52:58
  Speaker 16: Here, Paul parlo here he's number eighty seven on your,
• 53:01
  Speaker 16: scorecard but number one in everybody's. Hearts Rob, gronkowski.
• 53:04
  Speaker 18: What an, introduction. GUYS i appreciate, that, Love thank. YOU
• 53:09
  Speaker 18: i played for the number one organization of all times as,
• 53:12
  Speaker 18: well so it was a great matchup to have the
• 53:14
  Speaker 18: number one tight end ploying for the number one. Organization,
• 53:17
  Speaker 18: baby that's what's.
• 53:18
  Speaker 16: Up was that the best team that you played, On?
• 53:20
  Speaker 16: Rob here with that that fourteen team that Beats seattle.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: In my career here here here In New?
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: England was that the BEST i think he might think it.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: Was that's WHY i qualified.
• 53:34
  Speaker 18: That that was that was a very special team game
• 53:39
  Speaker 18: at the heck of a. Game it was one of
• 53:40
  Speaker 18: the best Super, bowls haymake all, times no doubt about.
• 53:44
  Speaker 18: That people are, like what was your favorite Super? Bowl
• 53:46
  Speaker 18: NOT i always say the first, One but it wasn't
• 53:49
  Speaker 18: because it was just the first, one because the first
• 53:51
  Speaker 18: one is always the. Sweetest but it was also because
• 53:54
  Speaker 18: it was one of the best games In Super bowl.
• 53:57
  Speaker 18: History seattle was, up we came, back they went back,
• 54:00
  Speaker 18: Up we took the, lead and you go they go
• 54:02
  Speaker 18: back down with you, know final final minute on the,
• 54:04
  Speaker 18: clock and Then Malcolm butler has that game ceiling, interception
• 54:07
  Speaker 18: and then we're kneeling the ball And i'm Throwing haymakers
• 54:10
  Speaker 18: out there Versus Michael.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Bennett you, know while just.
• 54:13
  Speaker 18: Kneeling the, ball there's a huge brawl in the end.
• 54:15
  Speaker 18: Zone so there was just so much, too and it's
• 54:18
  Speaker 18: just such a, great you, know perspective to fans too
• 54:20
  Speaker 18: for a game to watch of what it's all about to,
• 54:23
  Speaker 18: play you, know you, know to play the game of.
• 54:25
  Speaker 18: Football just that game brought everything to the. Table and
• 54:28
  Speaker 18: what was great it was such a team. Win julian
• 54:31
  Speaker 18: had a, Touchdown Brandon LaFell had a, Touchdown amandola had a.
• 54:34
  Speaker 18: TOUCHDOWN i had a, touchdown And Shane veren went for
• 54:38
  Speaker 18: about eleven catches right around there for LIKE i don't,
• 54:41
  Speaker 18: know one hundred something YARDS i, think but he had
• 54:42
  Speaker 18: a big impact even though he didn't score a touchdown.
• 54:45
  Speaker 18: Too so just an incredible game. Overall it was by,
• 54:48
  Speaker 18: far you, know my favorite Super. Bowl but was that
• 54:51
  Speaker 18: the best? Team, no you want to believe what the
• 54:54
  Speaker 18: best team was? THAT i truly believe what was the
• 54:56
  Speaker 18: best one was the year after. Fifteen, yeah, fifteen we went,
• 55:01
  Speaker 18: Undefeated we went ten to zero and then we lost
• 55:04
  Speaker 18: a couple of.
• 55:05
  Speaker 17: Games so, yeah the Fifteen, YEAH i, mean this is
• 55:11
  Speaker 17: a year that really frustrates me a little bit as
• 55:14
  Speaker 17: a as a, fanboy because there were so many. GAMES
• 55:17
  Speaker 17: i thought that there was some questionable things down the.
• 55:19
  Speaker 17: Stretch i'm not gonna Put jami on that. Spot you
• 55:22
  Speaker 17: know the way you treated The miami game at the
• 55:24
  Speaker 17: end with all the runs With Steven, jackson you, know
• 55:27
  Speaker 17: kicking off in overtime against The. Jets all they needed
• 55:31
  Speaker 17: was one. Win in THAT Afc championship game Against, denver
• 55:33
  Speaker 17: was here instead of In.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: DENVER i do remember.
• 55:36
  Speaker 18: That and going into That miami, game we said we're
• 55:39
  Speaker 18: gonna run the ball every single, PLAY i think until
• 55:43
  Speaker 18: we get like five first downs in a row or
• 55:45
  Speaker 18: like a touchdown or. Something and we just kept running
• 55:48
  Speaker 18: the ball and running the, ball and we were going
• 55:50
  Speaker 18: nowhere with. It it was like third and, ten run the,
• 55:53
  Speaker 18: ball one more, yard punting on fourth and. Nine BUT
• 55:57
  Speaker 18: i do remember that, game and we lost like three
• 55:59
  Speaker 18: in a. Row we started off unbelievably. HOT i mean
• 56:02
  Speaker 18: tend to, know everyone was on. FIRE i got hurt
• 56:05
  Speaker 18: actually with a knee in That denver.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Game game of that, game you went down.
• 56:10
  Speaker 18: BAD i, did, man but that was just a bone.
• 56:12
  Speaker 18: Bruise but let me tell, you the bone bruise hurt
• 56:14
  Speaker 18: more than actually blowing out YOUR acl and MCL i was,
• 56:17
  Speaker 18: LIKE i was on the field. SCREAMING i was, like
• 56:19
  Speaker 18: my career is done done with. Again but good thing
• 56:22
  Speaker 18: was just a bone. Bruise but also that, GAME i
• 56:26
  Speaker 18: was in the locker. Room right after we won that,
• 56:29
  Speaker 18: game they called a holding. Penalty I'm Patrick chung in
• 56:33
  Speaker 18: the end. Zone Brock osweiler was their quarterback and he
• 56:36
  Speaker 18: threw a pass to the end. Zone let me tell,
• 56:39
  Speaker 18: YOU i was watching it from the locker.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Room it was not a holding.
• 56:43
  Speaker 18: Penalty and that call right, THERE i think it was
• 56:46
  Speaker 18: fourth and ten or, something and it gave him the first,
• 56:49
  Speaker 18: down and it gave him the first down right on
• 56:52
  Speaker 18: their own one yard line to go and score on
• 56:54
  Speaker 18: the next. Play but the game was over if that
• 56:57
  Speaker 18: holing penalty was never. Called And i'm telling you his
• 57:00
  Speaker 18: tea go bring up that. Play Patrick chong did not,
• 57:03
  Speaker 18: Hold AND i remember that play clear as. Day so
• 57:06
  Speaker 18: we would have been eleven and, zero still. Hot and
• 57:09
  Speaker 18: then we lost to philadelphiacause you, know once you lose one,
• 57:11
  Speaker 18: game you trick it trickles, down you lose. Another and
• 57:14
  Speaker 18: we lost To philly that, year who was terrible as.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: WELL i was out that.
• 57:17
  Speaker 18: Game then we lost a couple otters at the end field.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Advantage, yeah four of the last.
• 57:22
  Speaker 17: Six, yeah and SO i want to get to So,
• 57:25
  Speaker 17: yeah that FIFTEEN Afc championship, game to me is one
• 57:28
  Speaker 17: of the most ridiculous performances by you And, tom you,
• 57:32
  Speaker 17: know just because of how good that defense, was and
• 57:35
  Speaker 17: especially that. Day you, Know Von miller was the best
• 57:38
  Speaker 17: defensive player on the planet that. Day he dominated up.
• 57:41
  Speaker 17: Front but you guys just keep hanging around and hanging.
• 57:45
  Speaker 17: Around it's fourth and ten and you, guys you know.
• 57:48
  Speaker 17: Connect tom just, says go down the scene and make a.
• 57:51
  Speaker 17: Play do you remember this catch That i'm talking? About
• 57:53
  Speaker 17: because for, ME i know you made some circus catches
• 57:56
  Speaker 17: that were, Incredible but to, ME i think it WAS
• 58:00
  Speaker 17: Tj ward hanging on, you who you had a.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: Little history with as. Well just take me through that.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: Play that catch was.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: AMAZING i, remember that was.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: Awesome it was.
• 58:09
  Speaker 18: Amazing it was fourth and ten and our season was
• 58:11
  Speaker 18: on the. Line aftermber that play to the EXACT t
• 58:16
  Speaker 18: and from WHAT i, recall actually what was calling the
• 58:21
  Speaker 18: huddle was a screen pass to the, left And brady
• 58:24
  Speaker 18: switched to play right away and he called all, goes
• 58:28
  Speaker 18: AND i was, Like, yeah that's, right all. Goes i'm
• 58:30
  Speaker 18: ready to, Go, Baby i'm on fire right.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Now i'm not ending the season like.
• 58:34
  Speaker 18: This we're gonna get this first down And i'm just
• 58:37
  Speaker 18: gonna take. Off and When i'm taking, Off brady can read.
• 58:41
  Speaker 18: That you, know this guy's got a mind of his,
• 58:43
  Speaker 18: Own like he can tell if a player is rolling
• 58:46
  Speaker 18: down the field or now he knows when a player
• 58:48
  Speaker 18: is going full, speed and that's who he always goes.
• 58:50
  Speaker 18: To like he can read the decisiveness of a wide
• 58:54
  Speaker 18: receiver or a tight end or a running back to the.
• 58:56
  Speaker 18: Tee and that's how he always knew what guy to go.
• 58:59
  Speaker 18: To and he always knew who was on fire at
• 59:01
  Speaker 18: the moment and who. Wasn't and he could tell in my.
• 59:03
  Speaker 18: Eyes right when we broke that, HUD i was, like,
• 59:04
  Speaker 18: oh you better just toss his ball. UP i was,
• 59:06
  Speaker 18: LIKE i don't care who's in front of, Me and
• 59:07
  Speaker 18: right when that thing was hike, BOOM i just took
• 59:10
  Speaker 18: off and they had that Safety he was all. Pro,
• 59:12
  Speaker 18: ACTUALLY i was double. COVERAGE i had a linebacker right
• 59:15
  Speaker 18: to my actually safety to my, left and the other
• 59:17
  Speaker 18: safety right to my, right AND i just split him
• 59:20
  Speaker 18: and went right through, him right down the, middle right
• 59:22
  Speaker 18: up to see, him And brady just launched that ball.
• 59:25
  Speaker 18: UP i was, like, yeah that's, Right i'm gonna go
• 59:26
  Speaker 18: grab this thing and we're going to continue this drive
• 59:29
  Speaker 18: and our season is not ending right.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Now AND i just went up.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: There brady put the ball right on the.
• 59:35
  Speaker 18: MONEY i just put my hands, out brought it, in
• 59:38
  Speaker 18: got hit right both ways on my, right in my
• 59:40
  Speaker 18: left right at the same, time and brought it.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: In.
• 59:42
  Speaker 18: Man and let me tell, YOU i was out of.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: BREATH i was, like.
• 59:45
  Speaker 18: WHOA i knew our season wasn't gonna, end BUT i was, like,
• 59:48
  Speaker 18: oh help me up BECAUSE i can't breathe right. Now
• 59:51
  Speaker 18: and THEN i kind of took, off like the next three,
• 59:54
  Speaker 18: plays LIKE i kind of just chipped the. Touchdown, WELL i,
• 59:58
  Speaker 18: WAS i was in on the, place BUT i kind
• 59:59
  Speaker 18: of took. OFF i just kind of lasts of days
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 18: ago through, it you, know just BECAUSE i was so
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 18: winded from that play and being up you, know at
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 18: the mile high and ALSO i was sick for that.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 18: GAME i SWEAR i had food, poisoning, MAN i. WAS
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 18: i was basically throwing up on the. Sideline it was,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 18: brutal but, HEY i always come through in the, clutch
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 18: and when the season's on the, line you always throw
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 18: that ball up The robbie g. Baby and THEN i
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 18: had that two point conversion as well THAT i was double,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 18: coverage double covered on AND i kind of jumped over
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 18: the guys and, had you, know controlled my body to
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 18: go and make the, catch And tom just threw it up.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: There.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 18: Again it was fourth and, two and, actually, no it
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 18: was a two point. Conversion, no it was a. Touchdown
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 18: it was a. Touchdown it was a, touchdown it was fourth,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 18: down it was fourth and.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 17: Goal, YEAH i wasn't gonna bring out two point conversion
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 17: because they didn't throw.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: It, now we're not talking about the two point. CONVERSION
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: i was open.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: Though a couple other.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 16: GAMES rob, fourteen The Jonas gray. Game oh, YOU i,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 16: mean you had an unbelievable touchdown where it seems like
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 16: you literally ran through every member of The. Colts but
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 16: we're talking about the play where you Threw.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: Sergio you threw.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Out of the.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 16: Club that's what everybody remembers about.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: That, Game yes they.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 18: DO i mean that's a tight, end, like, yeah that's
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 18: a real.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 16: Title disrespect to some of these other guys with pass.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 16: Catchers but you're a blocking guy.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: TOO i am the.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 16: Dark you're going to block your ass, off, Yes and
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 16: you blocked your ass off on that, play that's for.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 18: SURE i had a lot of a pride in my. Blocking.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 18: MAN i love. BLOCKING i truly believe. That you, know
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 18: it helped, me you, know in the passing game as.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 18: Well it helped me get open in the play, action
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 18: and it just you, KNOW i TRULY i just always
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 18: felt and believed in as a tight, end just WHEN
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 18: i WHEN i started playing the position that you had
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 18: to do. Both, man that's what it's all, about you,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 18: know doing the dirty work and then also going out
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 18: there and making plays as well in the passing.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Game But i'm that.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: PLAY i.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: Mean Sergio brown came in with.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 18: Me here with The New England. Pagers he was a
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 18: free agent that year out Of Notre dame and he
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 18: was a great. Player he was a safety, Here uh he.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 18: Was he was a great special. Teamer and then he
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 18: went over to The colts and, uh you know he
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 18: did great things for us while he was here with the.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 18: Pages but that, game, man he just went and stopped. Talking,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 18: man he just want to, stop you, know you, know
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 18: trying to get under my. Skin and let me tell,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 18: you he eventually got under my. Skin and when you
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 18: get under my skin talking, garbage you know it's not
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 18: gonna be good for you on that defensive side of the.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 18: Ball and that's what. Happened and FINALLY i just ticked.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 18: IT i was like a ticking time bomb the whole.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 18: Game he just kept going off and, off talking, garbage
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 18: and then.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: Finally he just he hit.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 18: It he hit that, switch and THEN i SAW i
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 18: noticed that play, like all, right one on one right,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 18: Here i'm just gonna. Drive i'm gonna drive your butt
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 18: all the way UNTIL i can't drive you, anymore until
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 18: you get planned you.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Know into the.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 18: Ground and that's basically what.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Happened.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 18: Man that's why after the, GAME i was sitting there
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 18: With Chris, COLLINSWORTH i was, like, Hey Chris, conway he
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 18: was just yapping too.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: MUCH i had to throw him out of the.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 19: Club and now great moments in. History i'd rather Be
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 19: Damien harris Than Jake.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 8: Bailey Damien harrison fairly dressed for.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: Games i'd rather Be.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 17: Hay he's a, player he's a football, player.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: But he doesn't.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: PLAY i don't.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 8: Care i'm not a.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 17: Punter i'm not the you, know everybody's.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: Ring but he asked me which one i'd rather. BE
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: i would take you.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 17: One IF i, had you, know to choose between What
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 17: i'm doing now with, you, Moron.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: I'd be the punter to choose between being a real
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: player and a.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Specialist plus being the running back for even just ten
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: plays hurts a lot.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: More oh, yeah what do you what do you?
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 8: Want what do You?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 11: No?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 20: Sacrifice no?
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: Pain oh, yeah you're just Playing.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Paul's rockney over here with the.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 19: Sacrifice that's another great moment from.
• 1:03:50
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• 1:04:23
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• 1:04:25
  Speaker 9: Brewing, well there's a little off air situation we had.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 9: YESTERDAY i don't know If i'm gonna include it, yet
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 9: but it was really.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 10: Funny well then included was it off?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Color? No, no, okay it's just can't be any worse
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: than tap that.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 9: Class, well that might no, spoilers BUT i was, like,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 9: okay that might be the unfiltered out of contest quote
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 9: of the week for.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: SURE i have tol you do that a little. BIT
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: i don't know If i'm doing it on purpose or not.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: Anymore it's just kind of. Happens and THEN i always
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: just look For, paul who like. You half the things
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: he says is under his that's my, thing that's my.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Thing that's What i'm known. For. Uh jack and And abba
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: writes in about, intangibles he says they're very. Important The
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: michigan coaches recruit what they call. Makeup football is a
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: very hard. Game success in football requires not only physical,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: ability but also the, commitment, discipline, determination and, yes courage
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: to train hard and rise to the. Occasion in difficult
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: game situations such as goal, line short, yardage and third.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: DOWN i could give you multiple specific examples Of michigan
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: players who were under recruited nationally but who succeeded At
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: michigan in part because of their. Intangibles the most obvious
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: recent example Is Mike, Sandys Cristril Sanristril everett Mass in
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: tangibles matter know.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: His parents a little. Bit we shared a flight back
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: from the last Year.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: DALLAS i don't know what was more peak Deuced Jake bobo.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: In the, combine which we get to the airport and
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: we're watching and we had a couple of drinks and
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: so we're feeling good combines, over you, know getting on
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: the plane back And i'm, like.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Hey is the same ast family in front of. Them
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: you guys just won the National.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: Chimmians, jim he's gonna get draft. Flying if.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: They, were they were wonderful. People they were really, sweet
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: and you, KNOW i think they WERE i don't know
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: where they were, from somewhere in like the you, know The,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: caribbean and they had like that that, said oh we
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: were so, excited you, know it was. Cool it was.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah he went To Evert high shout Out paul and
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: uh had a really good year for The washington and the
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: rookie season for The. Commanders so good, player great, which.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: By the, way just real quick like talking about needs
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: like slot. CORNER i know we're gonna we're actually we're
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: talking corners and and h d backs coming up for
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: The Draft countdown, show which if you haven't checked it,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: out that's coming out soon first episode here from the.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: Studio but slot corner is an interesting kind of just
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: position to.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Consider Marcus jones is going to have a. Breakout he's a.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: Good, piece LIKE i just BUT i just, wondered is
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: he like you, know we talk about the high volty
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: slot on the offensive side of the, ball is there
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: we need a high Volumes like is there gonna be
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: a three safety nickel or is it gonna be a
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: three corner nickel that they? Run what's the package Of
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Terrell williams once.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: To, yeah there's there's some good nickel corners in this.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: Class Jihati baron From texas is the number one guy,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: THOUGH i mean He's Brian branch two point, zero just
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: really good. Player but he's gonna go in the first round,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: Probably but it does seem like that position is picking
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: up a little bit steam from a value standpoint for
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: teams just because of how many teams play three receivers
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: all the, time so like you have to have three
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: good corners and you have to play have somebody that
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: can play in the. Slot but some teams it's more
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: of like a safety, slot and some teams it's a.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: Corner it's a true corner that plays. Inside so it
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: depends manner zone, usually like if you're a man, defense
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: you'll play like a corner body type. There if you're
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: a zone, defense you play a.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Safety i'd be remiss IF i didn't. CONGRATULATE i guess
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: one of our local, teams The. Celtics it looks like
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: they got a new owner enough for. Congratulating alex is
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: our number One celtics fan on the on the, Table
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: so what do you.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 9: Think we've had this conversation on the show, before where
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 9: like it really seems like we're going to be in
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 9: a place where private equity is running every single money
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 9: is which is really. Alarming But i'm a little relieved
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 9: to see that this guy's From, georgetown mass seems to
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 9: be like a real diehard, Fan so a little bit
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 9: of my concern has been alleviated as if it were
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 9: like just like a true hedge fund or private car coming,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 9: in you, Know BUT i, mean like talk about a
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 9: return on investment over twenty.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 10: Years that's.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: Insane six point one billion that's what sold.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: For, yeah they bought.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 9: For three hundred something three thirty million in two thousand and,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 9: two so your.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 10: Goodness six times return on.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 9: Investment and they don't own the Arena like a lot
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 9: of times you sell a team and like at least
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 9: a billion is just looped in with the arena, itself, right.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: So get the?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 10: Arena just absurd. MONEY i hope they make.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: Us did You reapaglioca's? Post it sounds like they're a
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: little bent out of.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: Shait, yeah he's a little salty about. It sounds like
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: sounds like his money wasn't necessarily tied up in hedge
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: funds and stuff like. That it was real liquid cash
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: that they were offering for the. Team SO i don't,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: know BUT i think that this guy does make you
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: feel better that he's apparently a Lifelong celtics. FAN i
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: grew up in The North, shore went To, dartmouth so
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: he's A celtics. Guy but he also runs a very
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: large private equity.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: Firm so so why do you think that they didn't
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: Take paglioca's groups. Offer you, know he was already involved
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: in the, ownership you, know is it maybe he didn't
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: really have a good relationship with grouse Back.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: Well so it sounds like they have an agreement For
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: grousebeck to stay on as governor of The celtics until
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: twenty seven to twenty, eight and that was something that
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: the new guy Built chisholm wanted him to. Do So
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: i'm wondering if maybe that put it over the top
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: for absolutely that he was still going to be able
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: to be, involved because you know when they sold The
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: mavericks that everyone Said Mark cuban was going to be
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: involved still and then very very quickly the new owners
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: muscled him out and now he's just basically a fanboy
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: on the sideline like everybody. Else but it does sound
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: like this is more of like an actual agreement That
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: grossbeck is still going to be the acting governor of the.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: TEAM i think if that's, true then that definitely had
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: a big part in.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: It, yeah BECAUSE i think he loves operating the. Team
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: he just doesn't have pockets for.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 9: It and the tech, bros do you. KNOW i, mean
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 9: just look at what all those guys In Silicon valley
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 9: have done with The. Warriors you, know like there are
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 9: scenarios where it can end well for a.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: Team, well the problem with those tech bros is that
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: they've got all this money and nothing to. Do, yeah
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: they're not really running a company like you know some
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: other you, know.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 10: Billionaires and it seems to be like that's kind of.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 9: This this firm's specialty is making these acquisitions and scaling.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Them.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah so, Wonderful goodbye you. HOLIDAY i hope.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: Not we need to make.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Money, yeah all, right let's go back to the. Phones
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: tyler's In. Nevada, Hey, Tyler hey with.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 20: Guys, Hey, okay SO i have some things to touch
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 20: up on on that aston gen. Conversation h he is
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 20: you're in twenty twenty. Three he was the leading running
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 20: back and receiving art that, year AND i do think
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 20: he is the number three player in this. Draft If
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 20: carter And hunster are gone And i'm The, Patriots i'm
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 20: taking Gen.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 10: Z there you, Go justice, Reduce, Okay.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: TYLER i just think we're like losing the plot a
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: little bit of the, take like what like this is
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: nice challenging If genty is a good player or, Not
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: like he's a very. TALENTED i think he's the.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: Number three player in the draft.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: If we're if we're taking positions out of.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: It, yeah, YES i thought we were taking best player.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: Available well that's a.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: Myth SO i don't, Think oh so you don't believe in.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: THAT i don't for The patriots for.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: ANYBODY i think that that's like a nice little like
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: general managers speak that they throw at people that, well
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: we took the best player, Available, Okay LIKE i think
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: the best player available for the football, Team like you're
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: not going to take like The patriots aren going to
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: take a. Quarterback if they said that Cam ward was
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: the best player available on the, board should they take Cam? Ward,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah like it's the same it's the same thing at.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: All the other best player available has to be also
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: better than who you.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: Have or just in, general LIKE i just think that
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: you have to have a role for the player on the,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: Team like you have to have a vision for how
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: this guy is going to make.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: A role for you, know the number three player in the.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: Draft, yeah just give them ball thirty times a game.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: And prosper, okay three and a half yards of. Carry
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  Speaker 4: ken's In.
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  Speaker 2: Louisiana Hey, Ken, Ken, Yes, hey it's didn't we get by?
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: You?
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  Speaker 5: NO i. Don't maybe so with.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: What's?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Up?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Ken?
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: OKAY i WAS i was looking At evans column this,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: morning and AND i noticed that he was, taken uh
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: of the. Line he had the draft, pick a draft
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: pick for left, Tackle and So i'm, thinking maybe answers
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: for left tackle of getting really. Short i've been, looking you,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: KNOW i listened to the draft every, year and, uh
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: which IS i don't have a lot to do on the,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: weekends but, uh but you, KNOW i was looking to
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: see you, know you, Know i've always been very frustrated
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: that we haven't you, know gotten this left tackle thing straightened.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: Out AND i was, wondering at what point do we
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: know that the team is? Urgent you, know is at
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: an urgent? Point you know they of you, know at
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: what point in this process you know they do you
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: know that there are no answers and they're going to
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: have to start throwing you, know this year's draft, picks
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 5: next year's draft picks or. Whatever you, know we're in
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: the in the. Process can you tell that there is
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: you know that they're gonna that they're really desperate for
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: the left.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: TACKLE i, THINK i think may.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: WELL i don't know if desperate is the right word
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: the dioect, is but like the options in terms of
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: like veterans that they could sign in free agency that
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: could actually have a chance to start on this team next,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: year we're basically down To Tyron smith and that's it
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: right like. THERE i, Mean jedrick will is still out,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: there but he's battled injuries over the last couple of,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: years AND i don't know if that's necessarily a. Fit
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: Tyron smith is the only guy left and free, agency
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: and regardless of if they Signed Tyron smith or, not
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: they're still going to have to draft a left tackle
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: with the high draft. Pick and SO i think you're
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: just already there in a lot of.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: Ways oh.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah David bethlehem wants to know what went wrong with
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: The patriots wide receiverble evaluations and past. Drafts have The
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: patriots really learned from their, mistakes what traits were wrongly,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: exaggerated which should be.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 21: EMPHASIZED i gotta be, Honest i've thought a lot about
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 21: that and try to find common threads from pick to,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 21: pick right and there just really Isn't Like Nikhil harry
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 21: And Taekwon thornton are two polar opposite.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: Players LIKE i don't see a common thread between those
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: two guys that would say they missed because of, this,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: Right so like when you look at those two, guys
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: they missed for different. Reasons so it's just across the.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: Board they just haven't had good luck with.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: It but maybe you could do a dotted. Line So Nikhil,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: harry they overthought it because, oh you, know he can also.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: Block he's a bigger, Guy he's not gonna get the,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: separation but he's all these other traits that we need
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: our wide receiver to. Do then they, realized oh that
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: was a. Mistake well if we need just draft a fast,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: guy and they underthought it and they and they Picked Taekwon. Thornton,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: YEAH i think that's that's.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: GOOD i, MEAN i JUST i think the draft is
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: hard no matter, what and there's not a lot of.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: CONTINUITY i, mean there are some threads of guys that
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: were picking these, players but that's a good way to
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: lay it out for. IT i like, That like it
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: does seem like they really wanted to Kill harry to
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: be this blocking big, presence AND i MEAN i always
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: connected that to felt Like bill felt Like bill felt
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: that the league was going smaller on defense and he
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: wanted to get more, physical focus on the run, game
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: focus on big, receivers and try to you, know bully,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: teams AND i JUST i don't think. IT i don't
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: think it.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: Worked, YEAH i mean then they kind of went back
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: With Jalen polk is not quite an Kill, harry BUT
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: i would say he's more in that mold In, taekwon,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: Right so you kind of went back again to like
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: another type of. ARCHETYPE i think the number one thing
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: that you look at, though is just play speed in.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: Separation LIKE i don't think that they put enough value
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: in separation in. General and it's one thing to be
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: fast in a straight, line but can you run around
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: out and get open at the top of the route
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: and create that. Separation AND i had those concerns right
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: off the jump With Jalen polk that he was going
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: to have that, ability had those concerns With Nick Hil harry.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: Obviously SO i would just love to see them really
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: invest in that kind of, player a true technician that
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: creates separation Like lad mcconkey's, right you, know like that
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: type of.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: Player, yeah see if you can figure out What joe's
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: trying to say, HERE i think there might be something,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: here BUT i think it needs some. Translation he, SAYS
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: i don't think The patriots are in a different place As.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: Digs you have quarterback teams aka possible champions and non quarterback.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Teams they have a. Quarterback the rest just. Happens the
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: wrong time to sign players is when you have no.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Quarterback please stop overrating left. Tackles, okay, okay tackles will
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: win most of the. Time can anyone even name three
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: of the last ten to win A Super?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: Bowl, yes But i'm a, nerd so that's probably not
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: the best person to.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: What he's saying IS i have the, quarterback so you
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: don't have to worry.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: ABOUT i got a Channel paul, here As paul would,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: go do?
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: They?
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: YEAH i, MEAN i want to believe That Drake may
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: is the, guy BUT i think that there's still some
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: unknowns of. Him and that's WHERE i feel like the
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: question is Does Stefan diggs feel Like Drake may is that?
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: Guy AND i certainly think That Drake may probably needs
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: a guy Like Stefan diggs to get him to the next.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: Level BUT i don't think it's a slam dunk yet
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: that everyone around the league. IS i know there's a
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: lot of really positive buzz About, drake but he's got
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: a lot to.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: Prove he's got to limit the.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: MISTAKES i was talking to somebody yesterday AND i just,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: said you, know my sneaky fear about all of this
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: is That drake can't solve the turnover, Problem like is
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: he going to be an error? Repeater is he going
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: to be the may? Sprays are those? Things can he
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: can he? Eliminate Can josh help him eliminate?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Them so here's the, Thing, so Now josh is. Here
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: we saw With Mac jones how they Treated Mac, jones
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: and they did limit the mistakes almost like too much to your, point,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: RIGHT i hope they don't go too far the other
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: side On BUT i. AGREE i Think josh will he
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: knows what to tell a quarterback and how to coach
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: a quarterback to limit those, mistakes what to look, for
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: what to. Avoid BUT i hope they don't go too.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: FAR i forget exactly, way because this guy is a
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: lot different Than Mac.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: Jones, YEAH i forget exactly What josh said in the
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: video that we did, here BUT i know turnovers was
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: like the key part of, it like that to, him
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: it's like all security.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: That got pounded into his head From. Bill you, know
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: you lose the game by turning the ball, Over like
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: whether you're a running back or you, know wide receiver
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: fumbling or a quarterback throwing. Picks, nothing nothing got Under
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: bill's skin more than turning the ball.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: OVER i don't know how many times did you guys
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: watch a rookie or somebody fumble the ball and ain't
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: seeing him no.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: MORE i would just say we're learning a little bit
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: more about turnover variants and like how important turnovers really,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: Are and what a lot of the data would say
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: is just that it's all about the timeliness of the
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: turnover and especially with a field position of the turn
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: but like it just there we. Go What i'm saying
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: to you is is THAT i don't think that there's
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: like as much of an emphasis nowadays on like all
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: turnovers are not created equal and all turnovers are not
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: necessarily the worst thing that can. Happen like how you,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: know Maybe bill would and like the old school football
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: people might look at. It so you, know like if
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: you have a high variance, quarterback you know who's throwing
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: forty touchdown passes a, year but he might have fifteen
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: picks every single. Season like that is we're going more
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: towards that type of, PLAYER i guess is What i'm
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: getting at. Now the, great the great, ones you, know
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: the Mahomes is and those guys won't turn it over.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: Either BUT i think that there's a place For drake
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: to be successful where he is a gunslinger and he
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: Is Josh, allen.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: Would you say a good rule of thumb as your
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: touchdown your variants should be three times so whatever your,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: turnovers you better have three times as many.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: Touchdowns, Sure AND i think that the question always, is,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: well you, know to your point about Mac, jones if
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: we pull him back so much that he's not turning
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: the ball, over well now we're not getting the high
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: end production, Right so like you have to do that
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: balancing act of like you can't you can't treat him
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: with kid glove What i'm, saying and turn and take
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: the gunslinger out of the, gunslinger because now you're not
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: going to get the benefits of his. Talent SO i
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: just look At drake may and he might be more
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: turnover prone than some other quarterbacks for a, while but
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: if he's making up for it in other, ways and
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: that that's like where The Josh allen comps. Coming Josh
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: allen lied the league in interceptions a couple of years,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: ago but he threw forty.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: Touchdowns so so that's the Other my other big question
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: this year Is drake a? Killer like that's the line for?
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: Me Is drake a? Killer is?
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: It?
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: No He maybe he does turn the ball over in
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: some not quite so critical, times but when it is critical,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: times can he turn it?
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: On H and what happened in crunch? Time tony writes
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: IN i keep hearing about the wide receiver and tackle
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: position not being very strong in this year's. DRAFT i
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: keep hearing the media and fans worry About campbell's arm
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: length and ability to stick a tackle in THE nfl
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: and McMillan's. Speed why not go with the unquestioned top
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: tight end in the. Draft look at the impact Brock
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: bowers had without a quality quarterback throwing to. Him look
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: at the Impact, Gronk kelsey And kittles have with their.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: Offenses warren can be used in so many, ways, catching, blocking,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: rushing and even. Passing josh would have a field day
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: devising plays for this. Guy i've come around to trading
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: down a couple spots with The. RAIDERS i think The
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: jets May Covet warren and The raiders would want to
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: guarantee Landing sanders a. Gentee you can acquire another top
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: draft pick and draft a bona fide weapon For drake May.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: Ps As irony would have, it you played an interview
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: With gronkowski during your lunch. Break it's a.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: SIGN i don't hate. IT i, MEAN i don't hate.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: IT i put it in the same kind of bucket As.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: Genty does it make total? Sense maybe, Not but he's
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: a great. Player he would help the. TEAM i really like.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: HIM i think he has a presence about.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 10: Him and has two great bets to learn, from.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: Two Great but you, know work behind those guys doesn't
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: have to necessarily be thrown in the. FIRE i, MEAN
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: i do think that's also somewhat of a little bit
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: of we got these two, guys you, know not just
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: yet with, That BUT i would say it's you, KNOW
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: i don't people say that the wide receiver class, thinks
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: BUT i think that's just more about the top. End
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: and again every year they're a guys second third round
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: that are appealing and THAT i think have, speed and
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: you know you have to develop. Them they're not perfect,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: products but the classes get divined by their high. End
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: BUT i still think that this Is.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: So if he ended up Taking Tyler warren at six
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: and you got another second round, pick would you be
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: happy with?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 7: That?
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: YEAH i think my hesitation With Tyler warren just to
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: Play devil's, ADVOCATE i guess is he just laid out
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: all the good things that he. Does is he a
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: jack of all trades and a master of No because With,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: warren WHEN i watch him, PLAY i don't know if
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: he's a dynamic. RECEIVER i think he's a good receiver
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: and he can definitely use his size down the field
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: and do that sort of. Thing he's gonna be a
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: really good red zone weapon as well for the team
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: that drafts. Him but he mentions Brock bowers like Brock
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: bowers moves at a different speed than everybody else on the,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: field AND i don't necessarily see that With Tyler. Warren
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: so my fear With Tyler warren IF i were to
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: try to talk myself into it is, Like, okay, yeah
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 4: he can do all these, things but that's his, Value
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: like his value is in his. Versatility it's not necessarily In,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: okay we're gonna be able to run the offense through this.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: Player so you, know is He Brock bowers or is HE. Tj?
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: Howkinson BECAUSE. Tj hawkinson also went in the top ten
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: because he could do everything. Well he could, block he
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: could catch the. Ball you, know he was a versatile.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: Guy and he's been a SOLID nfl tight, end but
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: he's never been like an all pro caliber tight.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: End does it make you salivate, Thinking, okay you Got
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: Hunter Henry warren on the. Field at the same, time
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: we're back to that too tight end.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: OFFENSE i just think you're still, Slow LIKE i think
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: that would be my concern is that you're still slow on,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: Offense like who's who's taking the top off the? Defense
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: like who's Throwing we've already, Signed, OKAY i mean not
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: you're selling me more if that's the, case but like
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: it just that would be my one concern With Tyler,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: Warren like high ranking the total, opposite right we.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: GO i REALLY i really like what you're saying about.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: Him AND i would just piggyback on that and say
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: he's not gonna be able to BULLY nfl players like
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: he bullied college, kids like you, know he was just
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: a beast down the field WHERE i was, like get
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: out of my. Way you, know he's not gonna be
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: able to do. That BUT i Think evan makes great
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: points about About. Warren it's it's that's exactly WHAT i
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: would see, too mitching.
• 1:25:50
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• 1:25:51
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• 1:25:55
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• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: hat on, BACKWARDS i immediately feel like an a. Hole
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: SO i completely understand Where fred's coming. From, however AND
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: i know you will all find this. Contradictory as an
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: assistant football, coach my go to headwear for practice will
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: always be the upside down and backwards visor upside down and.
• 1:26:14
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• 1:26:16
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• 1:26:19
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• 1:26:21
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• 1:26:24
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• 1:26:25
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• 1:26:29
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• 1:26:32
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• 1:26:34
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• 1:26:34
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• 1:26:35
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• 1:26:37
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• 1:26:39
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• 1:26:40
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• 1:26:43
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  Speaker 2: About josh. McDaniels is the offense going to be as
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  Speaker 2: Precise the Old josh McDaniels offense largely relied on. Precision
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  Speaker 2: the exact right spot at the exact right, moment and
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  Speaker 2: on every. Play this complexity is often cited as the
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  Speaker 2: reason why The patriots tended to churn through receivers and
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  Speaker 2: why only a handful of receivers could ever. Stick do
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  Speaker 2: we expect that the new offense will require this kind of? Structure,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: Again Drake may's strength is playing outside of, structure and
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  Speaker 2: when the play breaks. Down i'd hate to see the
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  Speaker 2: new regimes Stifle may's talents while simultaneously limiting the kind
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  Speaker 4: Brady, YEAH i don't. Know we're here talking to McDaniels
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  Speaker 4: for the first time In, april, right a couple of
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  Speaker 4: weeks from. Now, Yeah so, Well i'm sure he'll get
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  Speaker 4: asked questions like, that And i'm sure he'll want to
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  Speaker 4: what he's got. Planned BUT i would imagine that they're
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• 1:30:30
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  Speaker 3: and the, offense and What rabel's influence will, be you,
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  Speaker 3: know Very i'm sure the head coach is staying to
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  Speaker 3: lot of what we to hear From. RABEL i want
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  Speaker 3: conversions and you, know being able to adjust on the,
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  Speaker 3: fly those kind of things needing guys who are. SMART
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  Speaker 3: i don't know if that necessarily lends itself to playing
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  Speaker 3: as fast as you, know especially with some guy like
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  Speaker 3: that year of there's just a volume that keeps piling
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  Speaker 3: up each.
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  Speaker 2: Week it's kind of what they said, asked you know
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  Speaker 4: WAY i think some of this stuff is. Overblown like
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• 1:31:39
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  Speaker 4: differences major, differences like they might call something something and
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  Speaker 4: that McDaniels would call it something, else just in terminology,
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  Speaker 4: wise but you know all those coaches still.
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  Speaker 2: But coupled also With brady changing things at the.
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  Speaker 22: Year you just go and you find free agents to
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  Speaker 3: Center but one more THING i will say about the.
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  Speaker 3: i would have hoped that they, said we really think
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  Speaker 4: TWO i just don't feel like that's the most important
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  Speaker 2: the season series being tied right, now both teams would
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  Speaker 4: About, yeah and that one off scenario that could be.
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  Speaker 4: True but why why didn't you just try to have
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  Speaker 4: the better record throughout the course of.
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  Speaker 2: Eight well you want. Both one doesn't preclude the, Other.
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  Speaker 23: Okay but but you made but you made a good
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  Speaker 23: it used to, be so maybe it's you, know you
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• 1:37:38
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  Speaker 4: YEAH i just have always thought that it's not enough
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  Speaker 2: aside you Say Hunter ricardo off the board when we're,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: PICKING i, think, Well campbell is the safe to safest.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: Pick if he overcomes the short arms, argument then we
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: potentially have the franchise left tackle of the. Future if
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: he doesn't overcome the arm leg but he plays left
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: at an exceptional, level could that Improve low or anyone
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: else we plug in it left, tackle even if it's
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: just for a. Year, also despite his, words could that
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: Entice scar to come out of? Retirement maybe not your
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: full time line, coach but maybe as an offensive Line Ernie, ADAMS.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: I think The scar's doing woodwork, Now, YEAH i.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: Just, like can you give me two weeks in the,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: offseason like where he just puts the rookie lineman through
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 4: a boot? Camp, yeah, like just give me two, Weeks
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: like you, know no no, pads, no, no we're just
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 4: going against. Air but like just work on footwork and
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: technique and hand placement and all that good.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 3: Stuff watching him like hold like a, weight you, know
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: like a plate From, lego and, like you, know the
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: linemen are like doing their punches like it's like a
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: forty five pound weight and they're just holding the. THING i,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: mean every TIME i saw out In Dante's, inferno it
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: just looked like absolute hell what he was putting those guys,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: through but it.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: Worked bronson wants suggest if we end up Signing, DIGS
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: i still think we go and Sign Amari cooper At
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: wells bringing In Tyron. Smith that will completely free up
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: your needs going into the. Draft If carter Or hunter are,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: there you take. Them if, not you try to trade
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: back a few spots and Take Campbell warren and let
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: them develop into their true.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 21: Roles what's up with A Mariy COOPER i mean, washed, Washed,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 21: Yeah AND i know everybody's like probably rolls their eyes
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 21: WHEN i bring up the numbers at wide.
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  Speaker 4: Receiver but if you're bringing In, DIGS i mean you're
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 4: you have seven receivers that that you're thinking might have
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 4: a chance to make the roster. Already so now if
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: you bring In cooper on now you have. Eight at
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: some point there's just not another room for people on the.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 4: Roster so like If diggs has, Signed diggs is obviously
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 4: making the. Team Mac collins is obviously making the. Team,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 4: uh you know you Have, Douglas Booty, Polk, Baker Kendrick,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 4: bourne like you got a lot Of there's a lot
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 4: of numbers, There so assigning A Mariy cooper like it's
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 4: gonna have to be. SOMEBODY i feel like that that's
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 4: a little bit, uh you, know moves the needle a
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 4: little bit more than that to free up another.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: Uh Jordan hudson writing In, OKAY i don't Follow. DAN
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  Speaker 2: i didn't follow last year's draft as. Closely from What i've,
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: heard people weren't thrilled about The Caden wallace. Pick The
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: Morgan moses move clearly indicates we have no intention of starting.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: Him there must this indicate we are intent on Playing
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: wallace at left. Tackle do we think he would be
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: an improvement Over Vederian. Lowe he only played a few
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: games last, year but he didn't seem to do terribly
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: considering he exclusively played right tackle in.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: College, yeah came against The, jets was, rough but that
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 4: was his first career start and he was playing on
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 4: the left. Side So i'll give. Him i'll give him
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  Speaker 4: a lot of those. Caveats i'm sure he'll be like
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: everybody else in that group and have a, chance just
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 4: Like Ladon robinson will have a. Chance and you know
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  Speaker 4: City s And Cole. Strange you, know whether it's at
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 4: guard or it's at. Tackle when they drafted, him some
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: people thought he was going to be better off at
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 4: guard in THE nfl, Anyways so maybe he tries out
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 4: left guard a little bit as, well and they give
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  Speaker 4: him a chance to play that spot. Too SO i
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  Speaker 4: know he's going to be.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: In he's still interests me. THOUGH i, Mean I'M i
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: don't necessarily See Morgan moses signing as being oh, well
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: we're done with. HIM i, Mean whiles didn't really get
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: much of a chance last. YEAR i JUST i think
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: they need to take the pressure off. Him he can't
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 3: be the starter going into, camp but you know he
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: starts out at the swing. Tackle, fred you brought up
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  Speaker 3: brilliant show guys get hurt all the. TIME i wouldn't
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: give up on Kid. WALLACE i think he was miscast
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: last years like he's going to be our savior as
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 3: the left, tackle you, know after playing right. Tackle but
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: the fact was he was viewed as a very positively
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: as a developmental right, tackle and you, know maybe that's
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: actually what he. Is and at some point maybe this
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  Speaker 3: season they need to call on him to step.
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  Speaker 4: In and in a more power oriented player, too WHICH
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  Speaker 4: i think in this system with, McDaniels if they're going
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  Speaker 4: to be what we know Of josh of downhill gap
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  Speaker 4: runs and things like, that he might be a little
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 4: bit of a better fit than what they were trying
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 4: to do last. YEAR i thought both their lineman picks
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 4: As Caden wallace And Leiden robinson kind of felt like
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 4: they were scouting for the old offense and drafted guys
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 4: that really fit that offense a little bit better than
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 4: the zone, offense WHICH i thought was. Interesting so now
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  Speaker 4: that they're going back to that, Style kane wall is
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• 1:45:15
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  Speaker 3: PEOPLE i, mean and Maybe Morgan moses takes him under
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  Speaker 3: that right. TACKLE i Think morgan was a signed a
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  Speaker 3: two year. DEAL i mean it's or it was three
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  Speaker 2: Right claire, writes and you guys KNOW i love you
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  Speaker 2: little bit more today with the epic, quote don't let
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  Speaker 3: FANS i got to work that in the draft show this.
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  Speaker 3: DO i really want a girl defense the end of
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• 1:53:08
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  Speaker 4: That that's that's your. Position like you like defensive ends
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  Speaker 4: Call it a.
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  Speaker 2: A curious what you all deem as a successful season this?
• 1:53:36
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  Speaker 2: draft has some good tight ends in. It what if
• 1:53:42
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  Speaker 2: reason is a wishbone offense and. Option, lastly with regard
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: to left, tackle if we don't have, one how do we?
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: Protect may just give me six wins at. LEAST i
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  Speaker 3: just you got to get the, six like please with this.
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  Speaker 2: Schedule but would be a six in your, eyes it.
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  Speaker 3: Wouldn't be a. Failure how about?
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 4: THAT i think that's the. Floor that's the.
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  Speaker 3: Floor LIKE i don't know what. THAT i don't, know
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  Speaker 4: I don't mean that it gets into.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 3: EXPECTATION I i don't THINK i can find a successful
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  Speaker 3: season with five or less, wins BUT i think you
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: can find a successful season with six or more. Wins
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 3: but Like paul always, says you got to see how
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: it LOOKS i, mean what if they're in all these
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 3: games and they lose some heartbreakers and you know they
• 1:54:27
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• 1:54:29
  Speaker 3: and you know that they're under you, know so you
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  Speaker 3: got to see what it looks. Like BUT i just,
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: six got to get to.
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  Speaker 4: Six it might be overrating rabel impact a little, bit
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 4: BUT i just feel like he's the type of coach
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 4: that doesn't have like horrible losing, seasons you know WHAT i?
• 1:54:43
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• 1:54:46
  Speaker 4: or seven wins IS i can't fathom them losing more than,
• 1:54:50
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