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Episode 299: The Queen (SG-A 5.08) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Get into Gate episode two hundred and ninety nine.
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  Speaker 2: Good lord, that snuck up quick, didn't it it?
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  Speaker 3: Did it? Really did? I mean, you know, but it's
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  Speaker 3: mentioned Maddie.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, how are different you've if you're only three hundred episodes?
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  Speaker 1: If you need to hear us say, I said to
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  Speaker 1: your man, I'm like, what episode were up to again? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the one that like edits the bloody thing, like
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  Speaker 1: I would have heard her say it so many times
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  Speaker 1: to ninety eight nine. I'm like, I think we need
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  Speaker 1: to fact check that, and we didn't.
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  Speaker 4: Because I don't normally keep track of the numbers. That's
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  Speaker 4: as you think I keep track of, Like you know,
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  Speaker 4: this is season five, episode eight, That's what I can track.
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  Speaker 4: But my OCD didn't like it because it's five. Season
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  Speaker 4: five episode eight is two hundred and ninety nine. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Season five episode nine will be three hundred, where season
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  Speaker 4: five episode ten should have been three hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Damn it, I'm seeing the title of episode ten. The
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  Speaker 1: whole thing's going to be and that's one.
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  Speaker 2: Was it first?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 1: I just remember that you were just waiting, so I
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  Speaker 1: had to say it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then it's free and clear for me. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and I always remember the lost try, but I forget
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  Speaker 4: the first half is called first contact. That's right, well,
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  Speaker 4: obviously because there's a better first content. Obviously, I won't
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  Speaker 4: say that about endgame because that'll cause an actual physical fight.
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  Speaker 1: Just don't push it, I mean don't. I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 1: don't push it with the Star Trek stuff, but don't
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  Speaker 1: push that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't possibly.
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  Speaker 1: Say we are talking SGA and yeah, like it's two
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  Speaker 1: ninety nine, and I mean, Maddie, I remember it now
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  Speaker 1: because I remember you weeks weeks ago looking ahead and
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  Speaker 1: we're like, okay, three hundred, Like episode two hundred for
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  Speaker 1: us was like a really big episode. We didn't talk
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  Speaker 1: about an episode in particular of Stargate because Brennan was
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  Speaker 1: obviously in Lincoln said I'll come and join, and then
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  Speaker 1: when we arrived, Reese was waiting at the door and
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  Speaker 1: surprises and it was unreal. It was a great night.
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  Speaker 1: And what do we do for three hundred? You're looking
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: your head going, it's gonna be tracker. Can we cook
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  Speaker 1: the book somehow? So that ends up being not.
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  Speaker 4: That we could have like combined two episodes or something.
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  Speaker 4: Then we would have been they would we would have
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  Speaker 4: been up there, you know so much. We could have
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  Speaker 4: skipped harmony and then the timing would.
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  Speaker 3: Have worked out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah okay, approved, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Right.
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  Speaker 1: Let's have a look at the old synopsis and oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, it is short.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go.
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  Speaker 3: We have to break this one down.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent.
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  Speaker 1: Taylor risks her life on a daring mission a boord
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  Speaker 1: a Wraith Hive ship.
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  Speaker 2: Sure that's about it. I mean that could be.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a lie.
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  Speaker 2: That could be any one of the last yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Not even like undergoes a procedure written her life by
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  Speaker 1: Yeah okay.
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  Speaker 4: Hmm, written by Alan McCulloch macart back, yeah, and unfortunately
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  Speaker 4: directed by Brenton Spencer.
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  Speaker 1: That seems like a new name.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm pretty sure he's that the Cooper cuck.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, we've heard of him before. I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: he's back.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you're actually speaking of this.
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  Speaker 4: This will be a quick episode, as quick as the synopsis,
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  Speaker 4: because I didn't actually.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to the entire audio commentary.
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  Speaker 1: Well you couldn't stand it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what I got.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it was a real trip for me to direct it,
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  Speaker 5: and I took a Shakespearean kind of look at it.
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  Speaker 5: So all the characters, I mean, it was my own
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  Speaker 5: little jump, but I gave everyone. I ascribed to every
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  Speaker 5: all the characters service as Shakespearean vibe to it, and
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  Speaker 5: Chris hired On in particular really embraced that right right
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  Speaker 5: right here of courses is Polonius.
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  Speaker 4: Oh God, God, I love a Polonius joke. Oh you
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  Speaker 4: just don't hear them.
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  Speaker 3: Enough, so you never hear one again.
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  Speaker 4: That was about the moment that I went Computer says no,
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  Speaker 4: Computer says no.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not even a.
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  Speaker 4: New concept like you, I mean, you brought it up earlier,
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  Speaker 4: but this is just a knockoff of an episode of
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  Speaker 4: Star Trek.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, I brought it up when you brought up Star Trek.
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  Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ, mate, that is a long lead.
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  Speaker 4: I've drawn a long bow there, like you know, but no,
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  Speaker 4: there's there's literally an episode of the Next Generation where
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  Speaker 4: Deanna Troy has to become a Romulin and like you know,
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  Speaker 4: like pretend she's a Romulin and take over the ship.
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  Speaker 4: It's literally called Face of the Enemy, like it's done
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  Speaker 4: in like nineteen ninety four or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I like, well, I was wondering where they
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  Speaker 1: were going to go with it, like because you know,
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  Speaker 1: obviously the any previously on it's like, hey, well this
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  Speaker 1: is the this is what's been going on in the story,
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  Speaker 1: whereas this was one that was very much like, these
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  Speaker 1: are the specific elements you were going to need to know.
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  Speaker 2: You someneath, dned dear, that sort of shit.
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  Speaker 1: And then it's like, oh, okay, well they're gonna, they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna put her in. But I'm like, they
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  Speaker 1: are they just gonna like do some do some cheap
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  Speaker 1: like makeup or some shit. And and the fact that
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  Speaker 1: she's got wraith DNA, the wraith the other eight queen
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  Speaker 1: is going to be able to sense it or smell
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  Speaker 1: it or whatever, but they're actually not going to need to,
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  Speaker 1: like like they fully under Like I mean, it's one
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  Speaker 1: thing to say, oh we can you know, they've they've
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  Speaker 1: failed a lot too, but hashtag Michael, but to try
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  Speaker 1: and de wraith someone to just making them a regular
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  Speaker 1: humanoid or human being. But instead this is like, oh no,
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  Speaker 1: we're just yeah, now we'll be able to turn you
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  Speaker 1: into one, and then we'll just be able to turn
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  Speaker 1: you back.
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  Speaker 2: It's so easy.
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  Speaker 1: We'll just we'll just flip flip the Wraith switch, Like,
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  Speaker 1: what are you talk what this is all in the first.
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  Speaker 2: Ten minutes, that this is going to be a thing
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  Speaker 2: that you can just do.
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  Speaker 4: Perfect cosmetic surgery, no swelling. Yeah, and then they can
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  Speaker 4: just change her back at the end, no scars.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we've all seen Face Off with our suspension
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  Speaker 1: just belief, you know, has been well used. I mean
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  Speaker 1: that movie is an absolute classic, so I'm not even
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  Speaker 1: putting shit on it. But yeah, I mean, yeah, she
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  Speaker 1: went through, She went through a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of wish there'd been more of a lean
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  Speaker 4: into the oh, we're going to use your Wraith DNA,
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  Speaker 4: we're going.
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  Speaker 2: To amp it up using the hoff and drug. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to try and.
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  Speaker 1: Have her go through Like I mean, it would add
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  Speaker 1: a lot of runtime. I'm just trying to think of
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  Speaker 1: moments and this that could have been cut back to
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  Speaker 1: to have her go through a bit of like the fly,
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  Speaker 1: Like you know, she wakes up and she's like, all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, she's looking at her face, you know,
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  Speaker 1: starting to get the little slits and stuff, and her
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  Speaker 1: skin turning a different color, and you know, bits and
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  Speaker 1: piece of her falling off who knows, but like this
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  Speaker 1: the body horror aspect as opposed I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean there was and becoming the thing that has hunted
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  Speaker 4: her her entire life. Yeah, like there's got to be
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  Speaker 4: something killed members of her family, post traumatic stress, you know,
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  Speaker 4: some kind of trauma going on there, and none of
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  Speaker 4: that was addressed.
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  Speaker 2: Like, oh, I'm a Wraith now, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, and you've got it now, like just become
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  Speaker 1: one mentally, you know, like be be a wreath, be
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  Speaker 1: method and and just to sit on the chair. She
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  Speaker 1: couldn't even sit on a chair properly, and an old mate.
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  Speaker 1: Todd's just like, this is not going to work.
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  Speaker 3: And it just felt very.
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  Speaker 1: There's like, you know, a body swap comedy in there
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  Speaker 1: that this was almost sampling from, but there was no
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  Speaker 1: room for laughter. But I like, you know, them getting
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  Speaker 1: there and then her just like almost going full Wraith
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  Speaker 1: in a way. It was just like she was enjoying
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  Speaker 1: it too much.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when she started embracing it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that moment where Todd's like, on, no, you're hang on,
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  Speaker 1: you're doing this to kill Wraith and he's like, how
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  Speaker 1: dare you? But also well, yeah, I've been doing the
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  Speaker 1: same thing, but now I'm I'm one of the Wraiths,
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  Speaker 1: so you know what one with the wraith with all
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  Speaker 1: wraith and how dare you do that to us? And
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  Speaker 1: I was wondering how far back? You know, It's like
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  Speaker 1: she was going so deep deep, deep, deep, deep deep
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  Speaker 1: deep under cover that they would have to like struggle
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  Speaker 1: to pull her back. That wasn't what this episode was about.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I think it was great to see.
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  Speaker 4: Rachel like be able to you know, have some meat
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  Speaker 4: because obviously for the last half season, in the back
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  Speaker 4: half of last season, she's just a mum.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just like just just be a newborn mum. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't have really had a lot to do.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So yeah, I think it was great for her
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  Speaker 4: to be able to, you know, to show off what
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  Speaker 4: she can do.
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  Speaker 1: But my last question that it was even not her
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  Speaker 1: because the acting just like they did such a good
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  Speaker 1: job with the makeup, like it didn't really look like her,
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  Speaker 1: Like I thought that her, a Wraith version of Taylor
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  Speaker 1: would have looked a little bit more Taylor than what
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  Speaker 1: it did.
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  Speaker 3: So it looked great.
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  Speaker 4: Funnily enough, though, with the the other queen, what do
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  Speaker 4: they call her the primary or something like that, that's
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  Speaker 4: not the normal Wraith Queen either, like every other time
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  Speaker 4: we've seen a Wraith Queen or even back in the
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  Speaker 4: pilot and they called her the Caretaker or whatever it was,
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  Speaker 4: there was a reference.
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  Speaker 2: Just get my hot keys ready, mate. The pilot episode
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  Speaker 2: of Voyager was called Caretaker and the and the last
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  Speaker 2: episode of Voyager was called Endgame. What am I supposed
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: to do?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 4: Not say it, but it's always been played by Andy Frizzell.
• 9:26
  Speaker 4: Andy Frizzell is six to one before she even puts
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  Speaker 4: on her like ra heels and boots and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: Rachel Luttrell is five four.
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  Speaker 1: Is she really?
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: So I think the fan theory is there's no way
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  Speaker 4: Rachel and looks and believe.
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  Speaker 2: So this new queen it's her, it's her one and done.
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  Speaker 4: The I forget the actress's name, she's five nine, so
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  Speaker 4: they kind of split the difference a little bit. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure Rachel they put you know, some some bigger
• 9:57
  Speaker 4: heels on or something like that. But yeah, I'm assuming
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  Speaker 4: either that or any Frizzelle just wasn't available at the
• 10:02
  Speaker 4: time or something like that. But yeah, that would have
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  Speaker 4: been hilarious to see Taylor go toe to toe with
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  Speaker 4: the original rate.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank god. It was just because of how easy
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  Speaker 1: they dispatched her, right, yeah, like come into okay, yeah
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  Speaker 1: they they they went somewhere else. They weren't supposed to
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  Speaker 1: get on my ship and come, we're not going to
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  Speaker 1: tell you where we're taking you, and you're going to
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  Speaker 1: meet the Wraith and we're going to take you into
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: this private room all this sort of shit, and then
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  Speaker 1: you know, fine, but to get caught off guard with
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  Speaker 1: all that, but then to just be stabbed in the
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  Speaker 1: back or in the neck or whatever it was and
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  Speaker 1: be like, Okay, she's done.
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  Speaker 3: She's dead.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, like I didn't even feel this great
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  Speaker 1: threat from her anyway, not the way that Tide was
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  Speaker 1: setting up, Like if you even breathe in correctly, she
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  Speaker 1: will smell it and she will kill us.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's like yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like you took her down so easily.
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  Speaker 4: Compare her to remember the underwater one, the one that'd
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: been she was.
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  Speaker 1: She was like, she was like a horror movie villain
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  Speaker 1: where I just could not keep her down.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was no way you were knocking her off
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  Speaker 4: with just a quick a quick stab stab.
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  Speaker 1: No, like not the way they bounce back, and then
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: he said, we're just we're dealt with old like. You know,
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: one of the most distinctive traits of a wraith, esthetically speaking,
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  Speaker 1: is their hair. And then we just got old baldy
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  Speaker 1: over there. Who's I'm keeping an eye on you guy? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And I'm like, why why, Like, is that
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  Speaker 1: just a point of difference in the episode? We know
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: which one because they've all otherwise had hair, right.
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  Speaker 4: The last time we saw a bald one was Setita,
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  Speaker 4: Remember there was that. There was the big Wraith raith guy. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the masterpiece directed by.
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: Of course the Apocalypse now of Stargate.
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  Speaker 4: That's why it was because Brenton Spencer's the Cooper cuck
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  Speaker 4: so he would have gone, oh, you know what Cooper
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  Speaker 4: did the first bald wraith, I'm going to do that.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to get another one in this one. I
• 11:43
  Speaker 4: hope Raer notices Ram notices.
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  Speaker 3: And that was for him.
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  Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't think I'm gee, I call him
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  Speaker 2: Barbie c.
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  Speaker 1: God.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah that makes sense. But yeah, so that's yeah, that's
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  Speaker 4: the last I think these are the only two sort
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  Speaker 4: of bald wraith that we see.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't it does.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't really create a port I think with the
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  Speaker 4: uber Wraith because he was like clearly like all about
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  Speaker 4: hunting runners.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was interesting. I'm not sure what this one
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  Speaker 2: brought it.
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  Speaker 4: You could have just had your generic dreadlock, yeah, you know,
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: white white wig.
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  Speaker 2: Raith and would have been fine. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So maybe again, maybe that particular actor wasn't available or
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: something like that.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: Or speaking of actors, Christopher Heydel, Yeah, I just I
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: really love the way that he plays this because I'm
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: just never fully convinced of what side he's on, like
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  Speaker 1: the fact that he lied to us to get there anyway,
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  Speaker 1: and go, oh no, this is what we're here for.
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  Speaker 1: We were here to kill us so you could take
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  Speaker 1: over it. So you never said, well if I said that,
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: you never would have come. You're right, Okay, cool, And
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: they push on. They get to the next level, and
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: they get to the next level, and even though Taylor
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: starting to sort of go not off script because you
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: didn't even know there was a script to follow, but
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: going off script a little bit according to what Todd
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: thought that was going to happen, I still didn't. I
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: still wasn't fully convinced that he wasn't hoping that it
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: was going to get to some of the places that
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Taylor was taking them anyway, and it was just going
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: to be this absolute long con that he was playing.
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: And this is like, look, in the end, I'm gonna
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: kill half the of the Atlanta's team because it's a
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: means to an end. But then it doesn't happen necessarily
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: like that, and I'm like, yeah, no, I.
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: Can see that that wouldn't have happened.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: I can see how he's he's got this set of
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: uneasy alliance with us, and he wasn't. He was about
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: to use us but not kill us, And I just
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's something about that obviously the way
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: that it's written as well, So good on Yim McCullough
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: and everyone else that's written for Todd, but well done
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: to Hidelf for playing him like this, because just the
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: way that he that he moves, I'm never sure whether
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: it's it's on purpose that he's moving a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more robotic, like he has he got something behind those eyes,
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: like he's waiting, he's waiting for his chance to deceive us.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: No he's not, that's just the way that he decides
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  Speaker 1: to move. So I just think the way that he's
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: playing this character. I'm just never fully okay with him
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  Speaker 1: around because I don't know whether he's going to be
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: for us or against us.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, had had Taylor not gotten there on her own,
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: would he have pushed her to get there anyway?
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  Speaker 2: And was he was?
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  Speaker 4: He feigning outrage and her you know, destroying the other
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  Speaker 4: rape and stuff like well just to move. She's just
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: a little porn piece that he's just moving. He's playing
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: three dimensional chess where ever else's playing checkers.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: You know. I like the feigning that he did do
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: when she when he first like she said why she
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: killed the queen? And then Todd backs up while she
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: was getting weak anyway, and she just puts him down
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: on the ground and goes She's like, if you speak
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: for me again, I will kill you. And obviously that
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: wasn't scripted. She's like, do you understand, yes, my queen?
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: Like he's so overdid the yes my queen thing to try?
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: And he's like, all right, I didn't plan that, but
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: Roll with it. She's great, four four pla, this is yeah.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: That's great.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: There's the most obvious Freudian slip that we've ever heard
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: in this room. I have blue balls to Sarah.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: This is how we do it. That's why I'm like,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: who's the bald race. That's a new costume I can
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: bring her.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean you know, Sarah's six one I sell, isn't.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: She She's my queen. She's my queen anyway, not not
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: four play role play even so, it's the sound. She
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: still works the full play part of the role play,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: role play part of the four play. Rather anyway, we
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: push on.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Trying to clear it up.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: He's trying to, you know, to roll along with that.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: But then when she is taking those extra steps and
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: she's blowing away the I.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: Can't say anything, now, can I. It's reset.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: She's just instructing the Wraith soldiers to fire the weapon. Yeah.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: Still, it's all sounding dirty to me. You always listen
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: to a woman's instructions when she's asking you where to fire.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Unprovoked by queen. Yes, yes, we weren't ready.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Yes were ready anyway. Yeah, she's like, hey, destroy that ship. Nothing,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: no good, just just trying to I said, anyway.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: If you said destroy that, it would have been a
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: very different situation.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Destroy that hive? What whoa destroy that hive.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: And then he's like looking at her, going, wait, what
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: are you doing? And again, yet it might be might
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: be feigning some gear, but it was regardless of what
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: he whether it was real or not, it was for
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: him it was unexpected, so it was always going to
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: come off that much more believable. And then obviously, you know,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: old mate, you know, it's okay, maybe they're running out
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: of time in the forty two minutes, but the idea
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: of like, well, he just happened to be in the
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: room when she was being a little bit more you know,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: friendly with the with the other members of the SGA team,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: and he just happened to overhear it.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Not that he like.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Saw through her act or she you know, sort of
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: misspoke or something as she used you know, she she
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: did the wrong three fingered salute, like an inglorious bastard's
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: like such a small cultural thing that someone else in
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: the room picked up on that no one could have
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: planned for. I'll allow it because you know, we had
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: to get there, and that guy had to be the
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: one to find out because he was a dick from
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: the start, and you knew that he was going to
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: be that guy.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: But yeah, It did seem a little endclimatic though, that
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: that fight, it was just a little bit it was
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: a little bit a little bit lackluster.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I kind of wish.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I know, story wise, it couldn't have worked,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: But it almost would have been better if he was
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: the one that was taken out earlier, so that Todd
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: could take the place of like the number two yea,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: and then the big fight at the end was the
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: other queen, Like I think would have been more dramatic,
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: but it wouldn't.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Have worked with the story, So I get it.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, like just you know, generic bald Raith
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: guy wasn't didn't seem like enough of a threat when
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: the whole thing is about you know, queens are queen.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: It's like, you like the whole point of Todd's thing,
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: it's like, well, after they've killed that queen, if bald
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: guy kills Taylor, yeah, I mean, yeah, we're gonna be
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: sad Taylor's gone. But in terms of the actual plan,
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: that bald Guy's not gonna have enough clout to take
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: over that high or do anything disastrous anyway. Yeah, so
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: the steaks were a little bit all over the place. Yeah,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: but you know, obviously the whole point of the episode was, look,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: we've put Taylor in wraith makeup, just go with it.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was kind of it.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: And look, whether or not he was completely on board
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: at the state, even though he said, no, I knew
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: something was off about you when you first stepped on
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: the ship. Even so, when they killed the queen and
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Todd says saying she's a new queen, she's saying I'm
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: a new queen and otherwise this will happen blah blah blah,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: and he's like, yes, my queen, and I'm like.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, you little bitch.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Like even though they set that up and Todd said, look,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: they're all you know, they're they're so bad, they're all
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: super bad. They're all got this blah blah blah. But
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: they also cannot operate without a queen. They will feel rudderless,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: so they will follow you. So even just that as
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: and I know we've had that sort of inkling about
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: them before. I've been shown that before, if not told it,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: but to see them be rather for the show to
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: tell us that that's what they were going to do.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: And then even if if he was questioning it, no
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: one else was and they've all just went, oh, yes,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: my queen, you're our queen now, Like it didn't take
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: that long for them to be.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Like her dead and the floor, who's that bitch?
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Move on?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Like as far as a species goes, it's like, oh,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: so in a way, you know, not that that makes
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: them more easily beatable, But at the same time, if
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: they can be sort of knocked off balance as much
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: as they can be simply by taking out.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: The Queen, I don't know. I don't know if not
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: so much takes the thread away.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: It just seems to me, I'm like, oh, they're actually
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: just that little bit, a little bit.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: More obviously, a little bit more vulnerable.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: And I think after four and a half seasons really
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: paints them in such a different light, Like it's such
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: a small thing, but I think that that really does
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: affect in a way how I view them. I've got
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: half a season left, like who really cares? But yeah, yeah, no,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: that's fair, that's fair.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: I did think it was weird though, like when when
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: the queen kind of figured out what was going on
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: and turned on her alarm to be like they took
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: a long time, like for how important queens are they
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: took a long time to show up.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Should order a pizza?
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Go there for right?
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Crazy, that's another one of your little place scenarios ordering
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: a pizza.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I'm sure, Well, yeah, I'm gonna go outside. What was
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Dougie Dugy from Pizza Hut?
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: That's you, Dougie Dougie with some with some Italian sausage.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I want to give you the super supreme some extra pepperoni.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Something I thought was weird at the start of the
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: episode though, was Keller when they're like when they're going
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: to Todd's like meet up with them, and they have
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: that moment where Keller kind of is in awe of like, oh, this.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Is your first hive, bitch. Three weeks ago she almost
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: was a hive, Like what are we doing what? It
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: felt like it was a way to pad run time.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Like I'm just like, and I'm pretty sure I couldn't
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: substantiate it, but I think I read some bit of
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: trivia and it's like, we know, actually, two or three
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: episodes ago she did see a hive, but because they
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: were filmed out of order and stuff like that, no
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: one picked up on it.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: But to me, I just try to go She was
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: turning into a hive, like.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I didn't.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't think about that, although the padding for for
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: runtime thing. I'm watching DVDs, thank you very much, Physical Media,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and that I was, you know, tending to some things
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: in the kitchen while watching, and I'm listening to the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: to the dialogue as I'm moving about you cooking up
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: a pizza, and then I hear and I hear Keller
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: speak and that gets you because I didn't even know, well, yeah,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: but I didn't even know she was in the scene
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: at that point, so I'm like, oh, wait, what what's
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: she there for? And and then and it's just like this,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: it's a full shot of of of Jill State, and
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: she had this sort of really like innocent look on
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: her face, like she was just so overwhelmed by the
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: size of that hive that it's just like it was
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: just it just held on her gaze. I'm like, I'll
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: just just I'll just go and walk and I'll give
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I'll give the show a little bit more respective while
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Jills is filling the screen obviously like she did. I
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: don't know. There was just something about the sweet innocent
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: look that she had. I'm like, mad, I'll think I'm
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: a pig. I don't care.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: You're just a walking demographic at this point, aren't you there?
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe?
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, she's she's beautiful, and she looked, she
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: just looked. It was just such a sweetly innocent I
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: don't know, there was something really cute about it. I'm like, ah,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: And then like as I literally got in front of
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the TV to watch it, it cut back to like
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: a wide shirt with all four of them, and I'm like, ah.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: No, yeah, well no, I see that's more most more
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: my style. Yeah, no, yeah, It's one of those things
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: where it's like, yeah, like doctor Keller, I'm like, gorgeous, beautiful,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: love it. She's personality is a little you know a little.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: But it's like when I watch Kailey in Firefly, I'm like,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: too young. I feel I feel a little bit maybe
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: because it's something in my forties now, I'm like, I feel.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: A little wit, I feel a little bit gross. No,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: fair enough, young man, fair enough. I'm thinking. I'm like,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't feel that way, but I watched Firefly like
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: ten years ago, so that's not as bad.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But what I love now is when you when
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: you see duel state on social media and stuff like that,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: the way like people still like, I love the way
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: she calls people out when they're like, she'll post something,
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: you know, she's a little.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Bit of a little bit of work done.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: She's a little bit of a little bit of you know,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: a little bit of plumping, a little bit of you know,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: and people will feel they need to comment on that
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: on when she posts something, and she's like and she
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: just flootered, just goes, yeah, I don't look the same
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: as I did twenty five years ago.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Do you.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah? And judging judging by your profile pictured they're Richard, Yeah,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: neither do you.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And she's like, and I'm doing a lot better
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: than you are.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: It's such a like, even if you're just fishing for
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: some hate or comments, you won't get your interactions up
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: or something. I just I'm endlessly fascinated by people that
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: just will comment stuff like that. Like there was some
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: article that, you know, an Instagram post. Yeah, and it
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: was a picture of Margo Robbie and you know she
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: was pregnant. Now just like no, well now the body's gone.
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: Fuck you talking about Perfoman's got another human inside yea,
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: you know, and hey, look, you know I'm not trying
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: to you know, I'm going to sound myself, make myself
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: sound like a dick or whatever, but like, you know, hey,
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: my wife's been pregnant four times.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I think I not even sounded like I think. I said,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I think the pregnant body is the beautiful thing I do,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: but before I do think the pregnant body is beautiful.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: And my wife jokes, she's like, I don't think you've
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: ever loved me more than when I was pregnant. There's
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: just something about that. I was like, oh, you know
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: how you doing? You look beautiful, but it might have
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: been something real primal thing. Guy, Yeah, yeah, that's my
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: that's my young and you like, you know, that's we protect.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Let's protect.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: But I just can't understand people going oh yeah, no, no,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: she's she's Margo Hobby now or something like that. Just
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: stupid shit like that. I'm like, they're then to go
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: to juill state, like to go to It's one thing
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: to comment on an article or an Instagram post of
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: some celebrity page, so to go to someone's personal page
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and go, hey, yeah, I don't think I don't think
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: you're looking good as what you did two years ago,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: thanks very much, Go like go fuck right off.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what are you like, She's like, like you had
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: a chance with you back then. Let alone now you know, like.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: It's stupid, what it's crazy?
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the amount of times should be like
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: and you don't even follow me. How did you even
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: get here?
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: You know, like, don't let the algorithms fool you into
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: thinking like you need to write something. Yeah, I'm okay,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: it's fine, Yeah.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: It's it's there's a great I think it might be
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: Taylor Tomlinson, the stand up comedian. When it's like when
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: you know, when someone like yells out he not I
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: mean it's technically a heckle, but it's like they're trying
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: to yes. And when she's doing and she's like, you
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: get this isn't TV, right, I can hear you, like
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: this is if you if you want to add to
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: it when you're sitting at home watching my Netflix special,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: go for it.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: But when we're doing this, I'm the only one with
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: the microphone, Like that's your job is to sit there
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: and last.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if I need your help, yeah yeah, yeah, I'll
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: ask for it.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's the same kind of thing.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: It's like, you know, you can you can have an opinion,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: but you can keep it to yourself.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: That's why we have a podcast, have an opinion. We're
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: not speaking to Cooper. Yeah, we just talk a lot about.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: It and I having a conversation.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and hey, you best know that if we get
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: an interview with Robert C. Cooper will be nice to
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: his face.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: We we I think it'd be a good bad cop situation. Robert,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: love your work and you're like, best you could do? Yeah?
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Apocalypse now really really that was how did run and
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: survive that explosion in the wharehouse? Just wait, my voice
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: just gets slowly, sadly higher. Is I'm asking more questious
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: as my bullshit?
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: No, Todd's dining table in his in his in his
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: hive that suspiciously looked to me like Ford's dining table
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Ford specifically. Yeah, like when when Ford had his little
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: lost Boy's situation and they were hiding out on that
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: planet and they were you know, they were lacing all
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: their food with the Wraith enzyme and stuff, that it
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: looks hell like the zame table.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: That's why, Like, there's just again not made of money,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: but there's just surely some little things that you can
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: do to dress it up a little bit, you know,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: and like I said to you the other I think
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: it was a season three episode.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: It was a handful of episodes ago.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: They went to see a guy in a market maybe
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: it was season four, and behind him, you know, had
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: some relics and had a bunch of different little knickknacks.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Oh, the Ikea bluish like stage storage box.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just looked like a storage box.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: That you would absolutely go and get an Ikea or
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: your local bloody stationary shop. It's like, guys, can't we
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: even I don't know, can we can we rip apart
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: one of the corners or something like punch it in,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: make it so it's not just a rectangular like.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: It's a body. Wrap it in some.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Rip off the like metallics that a ring handles that's
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: on the side, like add on something. I don't know,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: there's something, sip. Surely there's something else that we can
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: do then, like here's a table. We went to the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: hardware store on the on the on the weekend in
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Earth and we got this and then Todd took it
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: like what are we doing?
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Anyway, there is actually there's a fantastic TikTok account and
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: it's solely focused on basically anything that you want in
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Star Wars, they will find for you. So like they're like, oh,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: you want Ahsoka's shoes from the Ahsoka TV series, here
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: it is, here's the Amazon link.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: You can get it.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: If you want the cup that she was drinking from,
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: here it is. If you want this, anything that's been
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: used in real world that they've then up, they'll just
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: be like, there it is.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Can they do the same thing?
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Because I know Brendan was in the hunt for them
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: for a while and I think I've come to is
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: wanting them because they can't be found. Those goggles that
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: O'Neill used to wear in the early days, like more
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: so on the desert planets, like we're like circular lenses
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: that were like yes, somewhere between like wearing goggles and sunglasses,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: and it was just like that's cool.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: He's the only one that wears them.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Where do we get them? What are they called?
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: And obviously works in the military, like there's probably a
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: very accessible item out there online to be able to
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: buy it because they don't know what they're called.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Well, the same for me is I desperately, desperately, desperately
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: want a Now I have quite a large like sword, knife,
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: axe collection and jackal. Again, the jackal is the dagger
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: from Buffy. It's also from Star Trek memorosis, but they
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: copied it, they copied.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: It, but it's this, it's this beauty.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I copied something. She's her way around. Mate.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Well, Buffy came first. Let me see if I can.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: This is going to be very exciting for everybody listening.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: But you know, holy I'm googling it, so you're welcome,
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: just so that I can show Mitchell a visual.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: It's been in a few other things as well, but
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: it's it's iconic and I really really really want one,
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: so I know what it's called. But their next to
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: impossible to find because you know, from twenty five years ago,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: there's a few knockoffs like showing up on Etsy and
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: stuff like that.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, you wouldn't resort to a knockoff, no
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: need a real one. Got to have the real thing.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to have that respect, that respect.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like when you're in the end anyway, probably,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: so I got to get it in there because there
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: was no need to bring that up Star Trek, he
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: said Buffy, And I'm like, ool, I'm going to give
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: you that's too, even though then you dropped it in anyway.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's literally on the like on the
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: movie poster. Yeah, it's Tom Hardy holding it up silhouette.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: And if I don't bring it up, then you know
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: the comments.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: You know, you keep saying that I've never seen one
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: of those comments.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Are you joking? The guy that I had a Twitter
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: feud with the other week came again.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Yea.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: He came at us again because I didn't reference something else,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: did you? Yeah? But did you? I wrote it was
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: a star Trek thee Did you see? I wrote back
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: to that one, whether that's the one? Yeah, okay, I
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: didn't know whether it was you or Brandan.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now I wrote back to that because what he sai?
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Because what was it about? It wasn't even that we
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: didn't I'm like, how do we?
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: It was a tedious link.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: It was something like we we were talking about I
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: don't even know which episode. It was off the back
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: of it about some act. Oh no, it was off
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the back of Continuum and we're talking.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: About grand grandfather.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: And he said, oh, well, yeah, you miss an opportunity
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: to talking about Michael Norman playing Who's mother useless? And
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: he did the Donald Trump thing sad at the end,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, hang on, who's Michael Dorn, Like, I know,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I know that name, but I thought he was referring
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: to another actor in Stargate that has also played their
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: own grandfather or father or whatever.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: That's when I would have had no choice. But you
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: think I'm gonna waste that's one on an undiscovered country reference, Like,
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, it is one of the better films.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: But well that's why I jumped on the Google really
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: quick Michael Dawn and it's like, Michael gone Stargate. He goes, ah,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I think you mean that it was in Star Trek
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, that's the case. And I just
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: wrote back to that guy, said that's one, and he
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: just writes back fair because you guys would engage in
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: like a twenty round message back and forth.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Apparently we're all supposed to know every single Air Force
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: rank in the US, because apparently the entire world revolves
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: around the US. I said five years ago, in like
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: season four or something like that, that we never actually
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: are actually told that what doctor Frazier's rank is. And
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: I'm right, we are never told what it is. But
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: sure if you know what the ranks are and you
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: see her on those few episodes that she's wearing her
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: formal outfit, and you know what that little thing means.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Great, you know she's a major.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: You know what that It'd be like if you watched
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: a sporting film rightly, specifically rugby league, right, because your
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: number is your position. Yeah, and you watch that you
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: that's I mean, you would watch it about a particularly
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: a bunch of different characters, and at the end you go, hey,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: we never even found out what position that guy played. Yeah,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: he's number eight. Clearly he's a front row forward. You're like, dude,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know that. I'm not a sports guy. They
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: didn't say the position. But if it's like, but I don't,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: you're saying if I knew something, oh would know that,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: and I don't know the thing.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: That was my point.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Imagine if in Mighty Ducks they never actually said on
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: screen that it was called the flying V, and we're
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: all just supposed to know that it was the flying
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: V because ducks fly together.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Like, what are you doing?
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: If you were an avid duck watcher, you would know
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: that's referred to colloquially as they're flying well.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: And if you'll notice, they only ever fly south, Like,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: what are we doing?
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: That's why I just had to jump in first, and
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have her. I'm going to give him
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: a response, and then he had nothing to write back,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, see that's how you don't engage. Yeah.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: See, he's probably the same kind of guy that comments
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: on dual states.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Yea.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: And you know what if he's not far back the yeah.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if he's that far back in season four, he
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: won't even hear this until the podcast is done.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: So I don't remember what they hell I exactly, I
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: just I just said we never find out. I'm pretty
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: sure we never find out, and we don't. In the shroud,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: I'm going off and in the shroud when when when
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: shankxy comes back? As as a prior, remember that, remember that,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: depending on what scene you watch, o'neally's in some scenes
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: are two star general and in other scenes are three
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: star general or one star general. Two are we And
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: I'll put this in my replies. Are we supposed to
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: believe that in between scenes he got demoted and promoted
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: or was it just you know, wardrobe stuffing up. How
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: do we know wardrobe didn't stuff up Frasier's costume. Hell
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Walter had four different first names. Like, unless it's in
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: the script, it doesn't count.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Consider it a deleted scene.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: It's like it's fun trivia, but it's not specifically part
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: of the Canada.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Imagine.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Imagine if in like nine years, Brad Wright comes out
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: on his deathbed and says, you know what, the ball
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: in season eight, episode four, that's the real ball that died,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: and every single one of them has been a clone
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: ever since.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Then.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, great, that's a great fan theory.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: But it doesn't like it doesn't it was never said
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: in dialogues, what does it.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: It's like when Freakin' until the other movies came out.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: It's like when that stupid bitch jk.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Rowling was like, well, actually Dumbledore's gay, just to try
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: and virtue signal, and it's like, well, until we saw
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: the movies where he's actually in a relationship with another.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Man, it doesn't count. But stupid turf bitch.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't stopped people complaining about it exactly when she
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: said it. Anyway, back to Stargate, Yeah, here we are one.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. If you had to dark out
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: one thing. I mean, it's kind of like there's zero
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: character development about it. And I don't know whether I'm
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: pissed off because it's just it gets in the way sometimes,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: or that I actually really respect it is that Ronan
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: is never ever ever moving away from.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: They're a wraith. We should just kill them, yeah, like.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: At any given moment in this episode, and he would
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: just pull out a gun, yeah, and and hold up
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: against the rays that hey, we don't know where they are. Okay,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: this is not airplant. We've also lost Todd, right, he's
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: not here anymore. And it was this is it Kenny?
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Is that what they named the second Guy? Yes? I
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: love that. I love that line from Roddy going can
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: we have a meeting and a vote about what.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: It's a bit of the mister Hooper or whatever it was.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Back Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm just like, dude, just stop. Okay,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: it's probably safe to assume that they are evil, but like,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: at any given moment, it's just like, hey, can you
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: go pick up something over there from the other side
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: of the room, So the wraith.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Like, where are you going?
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Stay?
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Dude, calm down, you get a ruin this for.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Me, zero tolerance, absolute zero tolerance. Yeah. I did think
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: it was weird though.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: At one point, like the team, like on on Todd's Hive,
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: just walk into the bridge and ask like concern, what's
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: going on?
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: What's going on? You know, what's going on?
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: They were in a windowless room, so how do they
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: know that? And they don't have radio contact with Taylor
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: because she's so it just seemed very unmotivated that they
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: just kind of just like if they just walked in casually, Hey,
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: what's what's going on? What's and they're like, oh, you know,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: the other ship's gone away whatever, But they just kind
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: of walked in really like what's going on? Che you
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: were in an windowless room in the middle of the ship,
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: you would have no idea and you would have no
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: reason to be slightly agitated or anything like that, like
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: or showing any concern because you don't know anything that's
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: going on that So yeah, I found that I found
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: that really odd. And yeah, you say there was no
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: sort of character development. I also feel like there wasn't
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: really a lot of character development for Taylor in terms of,
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: like we spoke before, but it's also like at the
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: end of the ending just felt kind of meh, kind
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: of very like open ended met and I don't think
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: from memory it's ever reference I mean, we've only got
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: like ten episodes left, but I don't think it's ever
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: really referenced again, just in terms of Taylor's experience, like
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: she didn't if anything, I like, she's been dealing with
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: the fact that she's had rath DNA for like four
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: years now or whatever. If anything, Yeah, I think it
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: would have been nice if maybe, oh imagine if instead
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: of Todd being there, Ronan had to go through the
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: process as well to be her number one, and like
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: he was able to get a little bit of empathy
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: or something like that for the Wraith or just sort
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: of see things from their side or something like that.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe that would have helped.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: But also I understand them wanting to keep the Wraith
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: as just pure evil the Wraith, but it's like when
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: you got someone like Todd who is so like m
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: isn't he do we like? Yeah, So I don't know,
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: it just felt, Yeah, it felt very surfaced. We could
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: have explored more of the tailor stuff and she was
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: going through or yeah, or or Ronan, but yeah, and
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: the end it was just kind of very fluffy and.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a cool idea.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Not that it took too long to get into it,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: but by the time they got into it, even as
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: long as it did, you have to rush through so
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: that she can come back and bounce back at the end,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Like they couldn't even leave it to like, oh, now
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: you're on the operating table and you know you're still
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: a wraith.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Cut to black and cut the credits. They needed to
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: show that.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: So yeah, just the amount of time like cut back
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, no consequences, I guess is the point.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, it's an episode of The Simpsons.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Everything re reset roto. That's episode two hundred and ninety.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Nine.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Jesus, I know, I know. We had to say eight
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, I couldn't be. Couldn't be next week?
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: We got three hundred next.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: Week the penultimate of something somehow, how do we? How
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: do we it's the penult that episode of trickle Digits.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: We said something prior, it doesn't matter. We pushed on
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: episode three hundred and it's tracker. Like, I don't know yet,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched it. But like the the fact that
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: you were like, oh, that's a shame, but I guess
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: if it's not, unless it's the biggest best episode of
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: all time, you don't want to just like he's a milestone.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Just compared to the.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: First Contact and Lost Boys, First Contact and Lost Tribe
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: sorry lost, Yes, with the forward that you know me,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: I'm never a fan of a mid Susan final, but
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: as far as like mid season two parters go, it's a.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Big yeah, right, okay, I'll just say that.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to put give you any any false
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: impressions going in.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: It's just it's a lot. It's a lot.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: It's a big, big episode, and I wish that had
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: been out three hundredth. So doesn't makes sense to you, because,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: at least from as a Stargate fans point of view,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: we got to celebrate one hundred and two hundred with
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: the episodes Wormhole extream of two hundred. Yeah, they never
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: did anything technically.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I think we spoke about a couple of weeks ago.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: The Shrine is actually the three hundredth episode of Stargate,
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: the one where Rodney got the.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Little Because of our extra episode, yeah and.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: All that stuff, it didn't line up. But even that's
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: that's nothing compared to two hundred or Wormhole extreme in
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: terms of the self referential of it, of it, but
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: also you know, those were one hundred and two hundred
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: episodes of s G one, whereas poor Atlantis didn't even
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: get to it to one hundred episodes.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I think their final episode is.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I know that sucks man. That's yeah, come on, like,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: what can we you know, I know it's a long time,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: but it's like, give us, give us a legacy episode
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: for God's sake, you know, bezos, like, how much can
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: this stuff up?
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: No? Does that?
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Oh no?
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Because Universe came out. I was going to say, does
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: that make Origins, the you know extra, the the the
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: hundredth episode, right technically.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the the universe episode of Universe.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: It's like, give them one episode. Also, they come back
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: with aged fifteen years, like what happened? I don't know,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: there'll be some scientific thing that they can do, and
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: just give them one hundredth episode.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Wrap it up, give them the friggin movie for God's sake.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Can't Yeah, that's all we need?
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Oh God?
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, we will be back next week.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Episode three hundred of the Pod, episode nine of season
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: five of Stargate Atlantis Talking Tracker.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: See then make get into geek, get into gate, get
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: into gate Stargate podcast.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Get into it now before it's too late.