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Ep. 912: Foundations - Are Premier Deer Tags Really Worth the Price of Admission? · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
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  Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,
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  Speaker 1: First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host
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  Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.
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  Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast,
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  Speaker 2: which has brought to you by first Light. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 2: Tony Peterson, and today's episode is all about kind of
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  Speaker 2: premier deer tags. It was primo tags that you have
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  Speaker 2: to draw and whether they are really worth the way
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  Speaker 2: and the cost of admission. The deer hunting landscape has
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  Speaker 2: changed quite a bit in the last twenty years in
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  Speaker 2: a lot of different ways. One is that there aren't
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  Speaker 2: as many true premier destinations as there used to be,
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  Speaker 2: mostly because the secret is out on how to grow
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  Speaker 2: big bucks every state with deer, and it is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: kind of pretty much churning out giants in certain places.
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  Speaker 2: It's mostly because we know how to facilitate the growth
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  Speaker 2: of big deer. Now, no, that doesn't mean that South
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  Speaker 2: Carolina is the same as hunting Iowa. However, there are
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  Speaker 2: still premier destinations and you could still get a tag
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  Speaker 2: for them, but are they really worth it? That's what
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about right now. When my daughters
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  Speaker 2: were five, we took them to Disney World. I know
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people have different opinions on Disney as
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  Speaker 2: a company and Disney World specifically as a vacation destination. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't grow up in the kind of family where
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  Speaker 2: that was even a remote option, so it felt kind
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  Speaker 2: of cool to book the trip and surprise my daughters
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  Speaker 2: with it. I was actually pretty agnostic on the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: You know. I knew it would cost about a billion
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  Speaker 2: dollars and I'd probably stand in a lot of long
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  Speaker 2: lines in the Florida humidity while the sweat rolled down
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  Speaker 2: my ass crack, and I thought a lot about how
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  Speaker 2: much I missed drinking. All of those things were true,
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  Speaker 2: but it was also kind of an amazing trip. Five
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  Speaker 2: year olds believe in everything because they are really stupid,
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  Speaker 2: But that also makes a place like Disney World super fun.
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  Speaker 2: Every princess, at least to them, was an actual princess.
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  Speaker 2: All of the characters blew their little minds, and the
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  Speaker 2: whole experience was honestly so much better than I expected. Now,
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  Speaker 2: being the people we are. We stayed in the cheapest
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  Speaker 2: hotel that Disney offers for the bulk of our trip.
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  Speaker 2: What I didn't know was that my wife had booked
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  Speaker 2: us a few nights at a mid priced hotel, complete
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  Speaker 2: with giraffes and other African game visible right off of
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  Speaker 2: our hotel room deck. It was cool, but also kind
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  Speaker 2: of not. The folks who can afford a six hundred
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  Speaker 2: dollars a night hotel room are not people I have
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  Speaker 2: much in common with. There was a weird vibe at
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  Speaker 2: the pools and at the restaurants, where everyone kind of
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  Speaker 2: kept to themselves, and honestly, the cheaper hotel was just
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  Speaker 2: so much more fun. We realized afterwards that it just
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  Speaker 2: wasn't our crowd. I've always been kind of a scrub
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  Speaker 2: that way. If you get me the option to hunt
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  Speaker 2: a diy tag on public land somewhere while staying in
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  Speaker 2: a tent over some kind of guided whitetail hunt with
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  Speaker 2: cushy accommodations, I'm going to always choose the tent route,
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  Speaker 2: even when I don't have to pay for the luxury hunt.
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  Speaker 2: It's just who I am, and I can't really say why.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's part of the reason I feel at
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  Speaker 2: home while staying in some random tiny town in Nebraska
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  Speaker 2: or Oklahoma versus talking to the average suburb dweller up
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  Speaker 2: here in the Twin Cities, who, while we live in
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  Speaker 2: the exact same spot, are often just a totally different
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  Speaker 2: species of human from me. You've probably been in situations
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  Speaker 2: like that in your life. All of this leads me
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  Speaker 2: to the topic of the day, which is premieer deer tags.
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  Speaker 2: Next week I'm going to talk about guided hunts and
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  Speaker 2: whether they are worth it, should you do one, and
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  Speaker 2: all that jazz. But right now, I just want to
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  Speaker 2: talk about premier tags and you know, premier destinations, because,
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  Speaker 2: after all, who amongst us hasn't spent a little time
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  Speaker 2: daydreaming about hunting Southern Iowa on about November seventh, when
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  Speaker 2: all hell has broken loose and all day sits fly
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  Speaker 2: by in the blake of an eye. The thing I've
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  Speaker 2: learned about this stuff is that what we think about
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  Speaker 2: in our heads is often not even close to what
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  Speaker 2: actually happens when we do this stuff. It's okay, though,
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  Speaker 2: life is mostly like that, and it's not a good
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  Speaker 2: excuse to not try new things, but more of kind
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  Speaker 2: of a reality check we should give ourselves when we
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  Speaker 2: need it. So to frame this whole thing up, should
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  Speaker 2: probably hop in the way back machine and look at
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  Speaker 2: how this all got started. When I was a younger
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  Speaker 2: lad eager to shoot any deer and really bad at
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  Speaker 2: shooting any deer, the buzz was all about Buffalo County, Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 2: The deer world was absolutely obsessed with this spot in
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  Speaker 2: southwestern Wisconsin because it was ground zero for you know,
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  Speaker 2: kind of modern trophy management. And yes, back then we
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  Speaker 2: felt okay calling big bucks trophies, even though we weasel
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  Speaker 2: word it now and pretend that mature bucks are somehow different,
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  Speaker 2: as if the right age class doesn't also happen to
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  Speaker 2: come with the biggest racks. A group of landowners in
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  Speaker 2: Buffalo County decided they were done shooting scrappers, and after
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  Speaker 2: many years, they started shooting big deer. Actually it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: that many years. It was only a few years. That's
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  Speaker 2: kind of it in a nutshell, and it got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of attention. You couldn't find an outdoor writer at
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  Speaker 2: the time who wasn't getting an all expense paid trip
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  Speaker 2: to some outfitter in Buffalo County to shoot a big
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  Speaker 2: one and sing the editorial praises of the region. People
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  Speaker 2: had been obsessed with big bucks since way before that,
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  Speaker 2: but Buffalo County put trophy management on the map. It
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  Speaker 2: changed how we look at deer and how we look
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  Speaker 2: at areas. Now pretty soon you had Pike County, Illinois
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  Speaker 2: coming up in conversation for the same reasons, and after
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  Speaker 2: a while it was about whole states like i Wan Kansas.
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  Speaker 2: Now you won't hear me argue that either of those
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  Speaker 2: states isn't a great place to hunt, but there is
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  Speaker 2: a hell of a lot of marketing that has gone
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  Speaker 2: into this whole thing. Now you might not guess this,
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  Speaker 2: but just about any state or region that is really
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  Speaker 2: known for big bucks is often pretty light on tourist destinations.
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  Speaker 2: Out of state money isn't just flowing into these places,
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  Speaker 2: or it wasn't, but the appeal of hunting giant deer
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  Speaker 2: turned things over in that respect. State game agencies certainly
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  Speaker 2: noticed the demand and they reacted by marketing their hunting
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  Speaker 2: as worth every penny. And this is an exclusive to
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  Speaker 2: whitetail hunting. Either. If you don't believe that, go talk
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  Speaker 2: to a Native Colorado resident about elk hunting, or maybe
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  Speaker 2: a Native South Dakota resident about pheasant season while I'm
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  Speaker 2: being a bit of a passive aggressive businatche here. The
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  Speaker 2: truth is that all of these opportunities weren't just flashy
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  Speaker 2: marketing methods for roping in some extra revenue. You can
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  Speaker 2: shoot a giant in Buffalo County or Pike County, or
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  Speaker 2: some parts of Texas where the racks are as wide
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  Speaker 2: as the Senderos, or in southern Iowa or central Kansas.
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  Speaker 2: The question is is it really worth it for the
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  Speaker 2: average hunter to try to spend a little time in
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  Speaker 2: any of these places. That really depends I talk to
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  Speaker 2: a lot of hunters every year, and the typical thought
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  Speaker 2: process around primo destinations is simply that it's a conduit
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  Speaker 2: to kill a big deer. We can't help ourselves. But
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  Speaker 2: this is how we look at these opportunities. It's less
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  Speaker 2: about the chance to have an amazing experience that you
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  Speaker 2: just can't get in your home deer woods, and more
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  Speaker 2: about some magical score like one hundred and fifty inches
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  Speaker 2: or whatever we deem big enough for the price of admission,
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  Speaker 2: And the price of admission is kind of steep, at
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  Speaker 2: least compared to most of our hunts. If you want
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  Speaker 2: to go to a county or a region known for
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  Speaker 2: big deer, you will likely have to pay to hunt.
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  Speaker 2: There's some public in Buffalo County, for example, and some
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  Speaker 2: public and a few neighboring counties that are dang near
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  Speaker 2: as good, but you'll have your work cutout for you.
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  Speaker 2: Whole states are a better option, and whether that's Ohio
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  Speaker 2: or Illinois, or Iowa or Kansas or wherever, you'll have
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  Speaker 2: to figure out the tag game. In Iowa, even in
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  Speaker 2: the worst parts of the state, you're looking at one
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  Speaker 2: or two year weight while buying points. If you want
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  Speaker 2: to shoot a buck that might wander off the Lukowski's
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  Speaker 2: farm or maybe the Drury's farm, you're in for a
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  Speaker 2: much longer wait. You'll be into that tag for a
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  Speaker 2: minimum of about seven hundred bucks before you even get
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  Speaker 2: the chance to hunt, and then you have to find
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  Speaker 2: a place to go to some people that's a deal
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  Speaker 2: breaker in and of itself, which I totally get. That's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of money for a deer license, but it's
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  Speaker 2: also a ticket to a hunt, maybe a different kind
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  Speaker 2: of hunt than you're used to now. I've drawn Iowa
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  Speaker 2: four times in my life, and I will keep drawing
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  Speaker 2: until I can't get a tag. It's not because I'm
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  Speaker 2: obsessed with shooting a giant, because I'm not, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't really care about that a whole lot anymore. But
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  Speaker 2: what I like is the whole month of November to bowhunt.
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  Speaker 2: In my home state of Minnesota, our gun season always
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  Speaker 2: opens up in the first week of November, which is
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  Speaker 2: a huge kick to the old knackers. Being able to
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  Speaker 2: leave here and go to someplace where the gun season
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  Speaker 2: won't open for a couple of weeks is really nice
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  Speaker 2: and it's worth the cost to me. But it's also
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  Speaker 2: not a terrible drive, and I've found some public land
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  Speaker 2: that I really like hunting. Plenty of other white tail
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  Speaker 2: heavy states open up their gun seasons in November, with
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  Speaker 2: a lot of them starting in the middle of the month,
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  Speaker 2: and there's still a lot of rut left after that.
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  Speaker 2: So what I would say it can be a good
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  Speaker 2: reason to leave home and go spend some time working
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  Speaker 2: some new ground where you don't have the looming threat
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  Speaker 2: of the Orange Army hanging over you if you want
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  Speaker 2: to kill them with a boat. Is that enough for
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  Speaker 2: most people to buy some points to play the waiting game?
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  Speaker 2: Probably not. I had my worst hunt ever in Iowa
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  Speaker 2: last year, and it was still worth every penny. I
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  Speaker 2: still killed a buck, got to see some really cool
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  Speaker 2: running activity, and woke up in a tent for several
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  Speaker 2: days in a row with the only chore on the
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  Speaker 2: list being find a buck and shoot him. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to give the eye with DNR any more ideas,
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  Speaker 2: but I'd pay more for that opportunity, although I'm pretty
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  Speaker 2: sure they know that Kansas is another option. I've only
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  Speaker 2: deer hunted Kansas once and it was pure bonkers. I
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  Speaker 2: saw giants, I saw so much running activity, and I
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  Speaker 2: had a great time. I was planning on applying down
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  Speaker 2: there this year, mostly out of a weird desire to
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  Speaker 2: hunt someplace new, but I didn't find anything while I
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  Speaker 2: was turkey hunting down there that convinced me I should.
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  Speaker 2: I got about halfway to a decent plan, so that's
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  Speaker 2: to be continued, I guess. But I also should say this.
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  Speaker 2: I did find a heck of a lot of quail
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  Speaker 2: and roosters on public land down there, so I think
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to head back there maybe December or January,
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  Speaker 2: hunt those birds with safe and maybe see if I
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  Speaker 2: can find something that really trips my trigger deer wise. Now,
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  Speaker 2: one of the reasons that I didn't apply for Kansas
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  Speaker 2: tag is something that all of us probably run into
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  Speaker 2: when we consider a primo tag. The pressure. Now I'm
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  Speaker 2: not talking about hunting pressure. Now. I know that might
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  Speaker 2: sound crazy, but having an expensive tag that you've waited
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  Speaker 2: years for is both exciting and sort of low grade torture.
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  Speaker 2: I'm stuck in this kind of mentality with my wyoming deer,
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  Speaker 2: elk and antelope points. I have a lot of each
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  Speaker 2: and have come to realize that I'm only ever going
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  Speaker 2: to get one truly amazing elk hunt in my life.
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  Speaker 2: Ditto for a high country meal Deer hunt. Antelope are
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  Speaker 2: a little bit different of a story, but I still
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  Speaker 2: have the same anxiety around those points, even if it
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  Speaker 2: isn't quite as discombobulating as the elk and deer points.
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  Speaker 2: I'm almost terrified to burn those points because then the
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  Speaker 2: pressure will be on. If life happens and I can't
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  Speaker 2: carve out the time I think I need, it will
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  Speaker 2: kill me. If I go and something sucks and I
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  Speaker 2: get thrown a curveballer three, the pressure will increase immensely.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to burn like twenty years of points
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  Speaker 2: on a tag and then eat it. But again, that's
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  Speaker 2: not the best way to look at it. Those points
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  Speaker 2: are a ticket to a hunt I just can't get
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  Speaker 2: any other way. And spending time in the mountains where
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  Speaker 2: the prospect of googling in a bunch of bulls is real,
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  Speaker 2: is not a bad thing. Just like when that IOA
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  Speaker 2: tag shows up and you realize that it's now time
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  Speaker 2: to get serious, the pressure gets real and I'll never
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  Speaker 2: forget something Randy Neuberg said to me one time about this,
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  Speaker 2: which was basically that when you get an amazing tag,
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  Speaker 2: you still have to put in a commensurate amount of effort.
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  Speaker 2: In our day dreams, the one hundred and seventy inch
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  Speaker 2: bucks come easy, but in reality they just don't, not
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  Speaker 2: unless you have about fifteen grand to spend and don't
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  Speaker 2: mind killing one that is in a pen. Anyway, free
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  Speaker 2: range giants of any species, even on tightly contra old properties,
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  Speaker 2: aren't all that easy. And if you think going from
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  Speaker 2: shooting one hundred inch bucks in Georgia every fifth season
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  Speaker 2: to being a stone cold killer, the moment you rattle
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  Speaker 2: in a one sixty in Pike County is going to
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  Speaker 2: be easy. It probably won't be. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: pressure to the premier tags, premier region thing, and it
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  Speaker 2: kind of sucks. Everything in life seems kind of weirdly
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  Speaker 2: to balance out. Or maybe that's just how I look
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  Speaker 2: at things. But if you think about the prospect of
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  Speaker 2: hunting an area with more big ones than anywhere else,
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  Speaker 2: you know, at least anywhere else you've ever set foot,
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  Speaker 2: the balance to that whole thing is that there will
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  Speaker 2: be far more pressure to actually kill that big one
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  Speaker 2: than on some of your home state hunts. That can
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  Speaker 2: be motivation to really do a lot of scouting, or
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  Speaker 2: to figure out how to buy your way into a
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  Speaker 2: sweet lease or something, or it can be just what
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  Speaker 2: you need to never apply and never build up the
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  Speaker 2: points and to only sit there in daydream forever. I
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  Speaker 2: think this is where we often get things wrong about
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  Speaker 2: these kinds of once in a lifetime, or at least
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  Speaker 2: once not very often tags. We focus on the prospect
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  Speaker 2: of a giant but not how to enjoy the opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, most folks would probably have way more fun
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  Speaker 2: if they took that big deer money and spent it
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  Speaker 2: on a hog hunt down south. Now I know that
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  Speaker 2: sounds like a joke, but it's actually not. Almost everyone
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  Speaker 2: who doesn't live where hogs are prevalent thinks about hunting
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  Speaker 2: pigs and how fun it would be, and they are right.
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  Speaker 2: A pig hunt is often about ten thousand times more
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  Speaker 2: enjoyable than your average deer hunt, But that comes with
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  Speaker 2: a lot of qualifiers that I don't really want to
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  Speaker 2: get into. The point I'm trying to make, maybe poorly,
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  Speaker 2: is that these primo dear tags are a great option
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  Speaker 2: for a certain kind of hunter, but not all of us.
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  Speaker 2: If the biggest appeal to it all is that you
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  Speaker 2: might kill a buck that scores I don't know, thirty
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  Speaker 2: inches more than your personal best, there's a lot to
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  Speaker 2: consider a hunt might be worth it, but for that
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  Speaker 2: reason alone. For some of us it is, and some
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  Speaker 2: of us it isn't. Now, if the appeal is that
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  Speaker 2: the prospect of a big one is real and the
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to hunt some timeframe or some way is just
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  Speaker 2: too interesting, now you're onto something different. I know a
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  Speaker 2: few guys who live around an awful lot of timber
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  Speaker 2: who can't hunt the Kansas grass lines enough. If you
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  Speaker 2: don't have high deer density in your world or high
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  Speaker 2: visibility deer in your world, then going to a place
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  Speaker 2: with either or both can be so much fun. If
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  Speaker 2: you have to stay out of the woods while the
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  Speaker 2: gun hunters take their turn, and you really want the
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  Speaker 2: chance to witness bang and run activity, then a primo
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  Speaker 2: region hunt might just be the ticket. And here's the
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  Speaker 2: last thing I'll say on that if your mentality is
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  Speaker 2: in the right spot and you put in the work,
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  Speaker 2: the odds are very high that you'll feel that the
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  Speaker 2: money and time are worth it. This is something I've
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  Speaker 2: realized about Iowa. I just enjoy the people in the
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: land and the deer hunting a whole hell of a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I thought after I drew my first tag, I'd never
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  Speaker 2: pay up to hunt there again, and then I thought
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  Speaker 2: the same thing after my second tag. Now I don't
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  Speaker 2: ever look at it like it'll be a one and
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  Speaker 2: done deal for me. I look at it like every
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  Speaker 2: couple of years, I'll get my chance, and if the
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  Speaker 2: schedule works out, I'm gonna load up my camping gear
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  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna head south. I don't expect to kill
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  Speaker 2: a giant, and I won't be patient enough to facilitate
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  Speaker 2: that anyway, But I don't care I just enjoy the
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  Speaker 2: hunting there, and that makes it worth the investment. Someday,
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  Speaker 2: probably next year, honestly, I'll roll Kansas into the potential
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  Speaker 2: mix just because of the same reasons, and someday I'll
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  Speaker 2: get the stones to burn through those wyoming points and
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  Speaker 2: just take the ride. How those hunts will end up
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  Speaker 2: is anyone's guess, but I highly doubt I'll regret any
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  Speaker 2: of those opportunities. So that's what I'm gonna sign off with.
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  Speaker 2: There are still places you can go where the odds
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  Speaker 2: are better than most that at some point a good
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  Speaker 2: one is going to work his way towards you. Whether
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  Speaker 2: that's worth it or not is a totally subjective thing,
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  Speaker 2: but I can tell you that it probably will be,
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  Speaker 2: and that those opportunities are going in one direction, and
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  Speaker 2: that is not in your favor. Pay a lot now
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  Speaker 2: or pay more later, wait a while now, or wait
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  Speaker 2: longer later. The way things are going, the opportunities might
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  Speaker 2: almost entirely go away as well, which is a scary
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  Speaker 2: thought and might be enough motivation to take the plunge.
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  Speaker 2: And if you do, you might want to consider booking
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  Speaker 2: about next. Week. That's it for this episode. I'm Tony Peterson.
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