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E80: The Spark of Life - Abortion, Science, and Responsibility · The Junto Podcast

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Hello, America. Welcome to the Junto podcast, where we promote the practical
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applications of critical thinking and bold creativity.
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I'm your host, Edgar Mills. Thank you for joining us.
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Hello, America. Welcome back. This is episode 80, I think.
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And today, what am I talking about? Well, I was going to refrain from any deeply controversial topics.
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And I don't know that this one, it is controversial, but everybody's got an
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opinion on it. Some people try to stay out of it.
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I'm just going to share my thoughts on it And I'm going to try to share them
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from a Well, critical thinking perspective I don't know, we'll see,
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Everything out there that we experience today Is like built on some kind of political ideology,
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That's not good, I don't like that at all But that's almost the way it is these days But I think,
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the pro-choice ideology,
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well, never mind the other things it's built on.
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It's kind of a, well, a denial of biology in the same way that I think the trans
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ideology is a denial of biology.
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And it's also a kind of, well, a shift of blame. Well, individual accountability.
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You're kind of denying individual accountability.
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And don't go off, don't fly off the handle yet. Here's my whole argument first.
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But this choice, it reframes the ending of a life,
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as women's health or reproductive rights or health care or autonomy or some form of weird justice.
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And it totally disregards the measurable biological start of a human life.
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And as classical liberal principles or even modern libertarian principles,
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there's libertarians out there on either side of this issue, by the way.
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You can argue it for individual autonomy, or you can argue it for non-aggression
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principle, that abortion is an act of aggression on a human fetus.
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So anyway, there's always political stuff.
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But I think abortion, well, not promotes, but enables you to make emotional
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decisions and get a free pass, a free out.
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And that's not minimalizing the effect abortion may have on some people.
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It's probably not a, I don't know, we'll see here as we go.
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So, if you are pro-abortion, pro-choice,
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and you don't know who Margaret Singer is, you should She founded the whole
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birth control movement that became Planned Parenthood And she openly embraced and promoted eugenics,
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Now, we could get deep politics here, deep politics, and we're not.
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But eugenics is what? It's the idea of shaping up the human,
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well, what she called human stock, by limiting the ability of the unfit to reproduce.
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Well, who is the unfit?
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Who gets to decide who is unfit?
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She did a piece in 1919 for some publication called Birth Control Review,
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and it was called Birth Control and Racial Betterment.
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And she wrote that eugenicists, well, I quote, seek to eliminate the unfit,
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end quote, and that birth control is a means to do that.
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She argued that, and I quote again, Eugenics, without birth control,
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seems to us a house built upon the sands.
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It is at the mercy of the rising stream of the unfit.
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Sanger used a term, again, I quote, all these are direct quotes from Margaret Sanger. Human weeds.
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Yep, that was her regular language when referring to these unfit,
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and you'll see who those are in a moment.
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In a 1923 New York Times piece, she described birth control as releasing, quote.
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The better racial elements, while suppressing, quote, defective stocks,
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those human weeds which threaten the blooming of the finest flowers of American civilizations.
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She advocated for the sterilization of the, quote, feeble-minded,
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the insane, the syphilitic.
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She spoke at a women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan in 1926 and was a sought-after speaker for the KKK.
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In 1932, she called for, quote, a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation,
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for those whose offspring might transmit objectionable traits.
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Fuck. In 1939, the Negro Project, Sanger wrote to Clarence Gamble of Procter
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& Gamble, the big pharmaceutical, whatever,
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strategizing about, quote, We do
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not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.
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And the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs
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to any of their more rebellious members.
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So this letter she wrote to Clarence Gamble shows a very deliberate strategy, unambiguous,
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not clouded in wordplay, that they were going to use black ministers and doctors
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to expand birth control in the southern black communities,
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while trying to make it look like health care.
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And look, back in those days I bang on progressives all the time,
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folks I don't like the progressive ideologies Eugenics had big support from
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progressive elements Back in those days,
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As it does now I point you to Bill Gates Yeah?
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So Sanger's various writings and projects Treated the poor, the disabled Immigrants,
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and most especially blacks As, well,
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demographic problems to be deleted at birth Yeah,
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nip it in the bud Some of you more extreme elements out there probably think that's,
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the way Well, the modern abortion industry exists because of her It stands on
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her shoulders and the infrastructure that she built And the racial disparity
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in abortion tracks right along.
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Over 40%, about 12-point-something million out of 28 million abortions are black since 2000.
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So we know if blacks make up 15% or 20% of the population, but they account
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for 40-plus percent of the abortions, well, there's a lot of black babies dying.
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Is that good, bad, or otherwise? Does the black community think that that's health care?
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And I always say, folks, everything's not about race, but it keeps popping up.
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These disparities keep popping up across different topics we talk about.
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But in every case, in every topic we talk about where there's these racial disparities,
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there's some progressive ideology that's backing it up. It's the source.
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That is true. You can challenge it. You can argue it, but it's true.
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Okay, so America's 250 years old.
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So let's look at his history.
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I don't know how controversial it was.
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I mean, we can't know unless we're there, right? But for most of the colonial
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days and the early, well, once we became a republic,
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common law kind of treated, they call it the quickening.
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So that abortion before the quickening was okay, kind of normal,
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and not criminal anyway.
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And what they called the quickening was when back in those days,
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we didn't have all the technology, but once you could detect a baby moving,
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which was somewhere around 16 to 20 weeks, once you could detect those little
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bumps and kicks and whatnot, that was it. There was a baby in there.
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So anything before that wasn't criminal. And they used weird concoctions of
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herbal remedies and frigging archaic surgical, you know, methods and whatnot.
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And there was probably a pretty high mortality rate amongst them, the mothers.
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In 1821, Connecticut passed the first state restriction limiting abortions after the quickening.
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All right. By the mid-1800s, the American Medical Association stepped in.
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And this was led by a physician named Horatio Storer.
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They campaigned for broader bans on abortion because the doctors wanted to professionalize,
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obstetrics and reduce the maternal deaths. That's because that was a big thing.
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That was a big deal with these unregulated or underground or little local,
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backroom procedures and whatnot. And also what was going on is there was a falling,
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the birth rates were dropping, of native-born whites.
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Yeah, we had to get more babies. We had to start producing more babies.
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By 1880, most states had some kind of anti-abortion statute on the books.
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And by 1910 Every state criminalized Abortion At every stage With the exception of,
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Threat to the life of the mother Which has always been an exception By the way,
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So people these days run around moaning and groaning That,
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Women are going to die because of That's bullshit and you know it's bullshit,
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There's always been that exception to the,
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So what happens when you outlaw things? Yeah, the underground thrives.
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That's correct. When you outlaw anything, the underground thrives.
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And the underground is unregulated. And there are nefarious characters operating in the underground.
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There's probably good characters too. I know there are, in fact. However.
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It's under the cover of the darkness. You can't, you don't know what's going on.
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So they estimated around the mid 1900s that about 1.2 million illegal abortions
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were happening every year with a high.
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Again, now we started as it, as it goes underground, the, the,
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the, the mother mortality rate goes up.
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And then there was various rubella outbreaks and various other medical things.
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And then, but what happened in the sixties, cultural opinions started shifting.
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Therefore, medical opinions started shifting.
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So states started to liberalize a little bit because in the sixties and the
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baby boomers, which I blame for every ill in America today, they, they started.
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So, by 1970, four states had repealed bans completely on abortion.
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And then the infamous Roe v.
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Wade Act, or case, which decided in 1973, that nationalized legalization.
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That meant states didn't have the option anymore, and nationwide,
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abortion is now illegal, or legal, legal.
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It's been that way since 1973 until 2022, and what that did was didn't ban abortion.
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It didn't mean mothers are going to die on a—it meant that now the states,
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again, have domain over their abortion laws. That's what it meant.
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So anyway, we see there's a pattern. When it's illegal, it goes underground, et cetera, et cetera.
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But it was never, ever considered a constitutionally protected right,
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and it shouldn't have been considered that, and we'll get to why.
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I don't want to jump ahead.
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Until the Roe versus Wade. Well, it's always been contested on the safety of
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abortion, the medical necessity of abortion,
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and the status of this unborn clump of cells with a heartbeat.
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That's always been in contention because there are unscrupulous people willing
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to try to change the definitions of things and whatnot.
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So let's look at Roe versus Wade. Everybody knows where I'm going with this.
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Everybody familiar with anything whatsoever knows exactly where I'm going.
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In 1970, Norma McCorvey, under the pseudonym of Jane Roe, challenged Texas's abortion ban.
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She told lawyers and the press that she had been gang raped.
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How could you not have sympathy? How could you not? Oh, my God.
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She got pregnant via gang rape. Oh, it's her right to end.
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The Supreme Court came back 7-2 in favor.
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And boom. Judicial activists made abortion a constitutional right.
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Well, Ms. McCorvey later admitted that the rape claim was a lie.
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She just wanted an abortion that she couldn't get legally.
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Well, Justice Blackmun's opinion created a right to privacy so broad that it
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covered, well, abortion. And some say murder.
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Do we have a right to privacy? If I murder somebody in my own home,
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am I covered on that constitutionally? It's my privacy that important in that case.
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So in this opinion, also, they created these arbitrary trimester metrics and
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these viability metrics.
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Not off medical fact, just kind of arbitrary.
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And the language, the common law abortion, historically, it has been criticized
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heavily from that justice, saying that it was.
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Selective facts and selective scholarship on that.
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They took things out of context to support the argument, which was what people
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do, especially progressives.
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So, yeah, 50 years later, it's national policy changed and has been 50-plus
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years of controversy over a lie, based on a lie.
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So whether you think abortion is right or wrong or not, building an argument on a lie is...
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It can't stand. The foundation's weak.
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So they've spent the last 50 years
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trying to shore up that foundation with progressive ideology and doctrine.
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And ultimately, here's what, when it comes to progressives, the end justifies the means.
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That's the way everything is in the progressive dogma. It doesn't matter how
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you got there as long as you got there.
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All right, let's go down a side road for a minute. Come with me down a little side road.
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Trust the science. Throughout the COVID-19 pandemic, progressives chanted like
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a Gregorian chant, trust the science.
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Pretty sure Fauci came out and said, I represent science.
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So when you question the science, you question, when you question me,
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you question the science. Trust the science.
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The left, the progressives defended Anthony Fauci's every move and every breath and every word.
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He was very dismissive of wearing masks early in the game. And then it went
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to mask mandates. You have to wear a mask everywhere.
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He denied any, it was all the bat, the wet market, Wuhan, whatever, wet market.
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Never mind the bio lab in Wuhan and then the uncovered emails for you.
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Discovered emails, the lockdowns. You can't go to work. You can't go to your dad's funeral.
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You have to go visit your grandma at the nursing home and touch through the window.
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His complicity in the engineering of, and the gain of function work that was,
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paid for through EcoHealth and the Wuhan Institute and NIH.
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And then how can you catch, well, you can, you can catch it oh you can't oh
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this is okay oh that's not good schools closed businesses closed business business is crumbled,
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mom and pop shops just just went under yeah,
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vaccine efficacy people dropping dead from the vaccine and then in the same
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breath people you're you're the enemy if you don't get the vaccine it's un-american
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of you to walk around being selfish,
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vaccine's not for you, it's for everybody else.
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And then they framed it up that any dissent, any questioning of all this dogma,
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was dangerous and criminal and you were the enemy.
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Yeah. Trust the science.
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All the evidence later contradicted this whole narrative. Everything that happened
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during that COVID-19 pandemic nonsense,
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all the conspiracy theorists and naysayers were justified completely. Yeah, completely.
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But the hard left stuck with it. They'll still argue it. There's probably still
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people getting COVID boosters right now.
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Trust the science. That pandemic left America divided. I mean,
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like, proper. Abortion had America divided.
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But it simmered down over time. Like, okay, whatever. You're wrong. I'm right. Whatever.
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The pandemic did the same, but people aren't quite there yet.
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With, you're right, I'm wrong. I'm right, you're wrong. Nah,
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it's still, there's still some heat there.
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Got to be honest with you, if I see somebody cruising around with a mask on,
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it asses me up a little bit.
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I judge that person immediately. America was divided. Trust in our institutions,
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which you shouldn't have any anyway.
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The CDC and the NIH trust tanked.
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Even amongst moderate people, they're like, yeah, it was obviously political.
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People saw the overreach and the inconsistent guidance and zero accountability.
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Still, there's zero accountability for all that madness. Yep, still.
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So skepticism became baseline for ordinarily rational human beings.
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Normal, moderate, rational human beings now became skeptical, as they should be.
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I've always has been skeptical of everything.
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But the left still defends it. All the bullshit messaging, they still defend it. Trust the science.
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Okay, trust the science.
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Do we apply that standard of science to human life?
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Fertilization of an egg creates a new organism with its own unique genome. That's science.
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The zinc spark is the transition into life.
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Embryology textbooks and surveys of biologists confirm the biological beginning
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of life starts at fertilization of the egg. The zinc spark.
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That's science. After that, it's just gestation. It continues and it develops and it grows.
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Eventually becomes a full human being.
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All the progressives out there and the pro-choicers.
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Who demanded that we trust the science,
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during the COVID era when it served lockdowns and vaccine mandates,
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you equate me being anti-abortion with me forcing something on your body,
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forcing a baby on your body. Never mind how you got to that baby.
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You were perfectly willing and perfectly happy to force vaccines.
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You should go to jail if you don't
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get vaccinated. That was out there and broadly supported by leftists.
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Yeah. So all that, now they treat what's very clear, crystal clear,
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embryological fact, aka science as,
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conservative philosophy maybe so selective trust is not not science it's just
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politics dressed up in a freaking lab coat the abortion argument,
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from the progressive side lacks any semblance of intellectual consistency whatsoever.
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Let's examine the zinc spark, because this was somewhat new to me.
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Let's look at it. In 2016.
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At Northwestern University, first imaged the human zinc spark,
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a.k.a. the spark of life.
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It's a visual event.
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There's a literal spark.
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The symbolism there is just crazy, but the science behind it,
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yeah, there's a spark of life.
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Is there other random sparks happening inside our body? not to this scale,
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there might be little, yeah, we have electric, electricity, we have all this
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stuff, we have energy and all.
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And there may be little sparks at the end of little nerves and whatnot,
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but nothing on this scale.
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So when a little swimmer penetrates the egg, the cycle of life begins.
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And that spark, well, calcium oscillations kind of trigger activation of the egg.
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And within milliseconds of that, the fertilized egg releases billions,
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excuse me, of zinc ions that create this big spark.
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And this is consistent through other animals. They've They've seen this with other animals as well.
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Mice, some species of monkeys and cows and frogs and all kinds of shit.
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The sparks expel excess zinc and they allow the cell cycle to keep going.
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And that's how only one swimmer out of millions, once one gets in,
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that zinc spark, and it keeps the rest of them out.
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That's how there's only one swimmer. I've always thought that was a mystery.
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It was amazing how one single swimmer out of just millions and millions will
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make its way through the egg.
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Yeah, well, that, that zinc spark helps to block out the additional swimmers.
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So at fertilization, the new and unique human genome forms. Yeah.
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And this little single-celled zygote is a distinct organism of the Homo sapiens species.
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Yep. And it grows from there. Surveys of thousands of biologists,
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somewhere on the order of 6,000 or 7,000 biologists,
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96% of those affirm that human life begins at fertilization.
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Trust the science? So the left-leaning scientific commentary on this,
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very arrogantly discounts this fact as philosophical, maybe,
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rather than biological.
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They throw words around like viability. Well, historically, about 24 weeks is the point of viability.
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There are documented cases of babies at 24 weeks able to survive.
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Say up until birth. Some state, I don't know, was it Massachusetts?
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The baby can be aborted up until birth. A whole fucking baby.
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You can pull it limb from limb as though it feels no pain, as though it's,
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you know, it's, it's, that's inhumane.
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Some people use the capacity for certain brain activity.
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There are grown ass adults walking this earth who don't have that capacity for brain activity.
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We're going to go Margaret Sanger style, eugenic style, put them down.
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All those very subjective and questionable options, they suit the progressive
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ideological dogma, not the science.
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Straightforward embryological sources treat fertilization as the unambiguous start of the human life.
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So science clearly describes the beginning and the continuous cycle up until birth but politics,
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provide your cutoff points depending on what your level of politics are okay,
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so we tried to trust the science but now we question the science okay fair enough,
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science can be questioned,
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What is the universal metric of death?
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The heartbeat. How do you know somebody's dead? Their heart stops beating,
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they have zero brain activity, dead. Okay.
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That science? Is that enough? And if it is, then by that rationale,
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detection of a heartbeat should be enough to affirm legal personhood.
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Once the heart stops beating on a human, the brain activity is flat, yeah, okay, call it.
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Their personhood is no longer, they are dead.
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So even non-scientifically, just what we can detect, rudimentary,
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just what our stethoscope,
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at least that makes it, at least abortion up until there's a heartbeat,
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it has to cut off somewhere.
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That makes sense to me. I mean, heartbeat. Yeah.
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That's antiquated, but we have my modern technology now, but still that's like,
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that's when it becomes obvious to me.
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But during Roe versus Wade, it was reliable.
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But for some, somehow pro-choice progressive frameworks, they reject heartbeat
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as a thing. They don't acknowledge it.
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And when can you hear it? Somewhere around six weeks.
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They don't acknowledge that as a life. How? Why?
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How is there a separate heartbeat inside your body, my body, my choice?
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How is that? How is that other heartbeat? You don't have two hearts.
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That's not what it is. So I just don't understand how the same biological indicator
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for death isn't at minimum the biological indicator for life.
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It's a selective metric.
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But for progressives, it's on par with all the other selective outrage and on
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all the other topics that put ideology ahead of whatever, life, fact.
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Again, in progressive dogma, the ends justify the means.
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It's irrelevant. Biological facts don't support the argument. Discount them.
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That's it. All right. Yeah, let's look at this. I thought it was Massachusetts.
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In August 2026, Governor Maura Healy of Massachusetts signed legislation that
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got rid of a 24-week window for abortion.
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So this new law allows abortion whenever up until birth at the discretion of
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a physician using professional judgment as consistent with whatever standards
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of care they have up there.
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As this physician deems appropriate. And I would venture a guess.
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Ideology plays a role in that.
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So my question is, what overwhelming influx of new evidence that came to light to prompt this change.
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Scientific evidence that prompted this. So this law change in Massachusetts
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is hands total discretion over to the doctors, and it only serves the leftist progressive agenda.
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Life or protected status, personhood status, begins when a doctor says it does.
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And if that's informed politically or medically, whatever, It's not a legitimate
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biological threshold, it's just a doctor.
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And we know good and well that political and medical authority are very often indistinguishable.
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I refer you back to Anthony Fauci.
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So it was flawed, that was flawed, and it was meant to be inflammatory for sure.
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The left and right love to fire each other up, but now it's just human life. It's always human life.
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This is just directly human life.
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All right, let's go back to a little science.
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There have been babies born prematurely at 21 weeks who survived and reached
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all their developmental milestones in our thriving children.
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One specifically, 2024, would delivered exactly 21 weeks and zero days,
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earliest recorded premature survival.
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First birthday. Curtis Means in Alabama in 2020, 21 weeks in one day.
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There's earlier records of infants, 21 weeks in two days, 21 weeks in five days.
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And survival rates for preemies at 22 and 23 weeks are off the charts there.
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We have, yeah, actual modern medicine is good when it's not informed by politics.
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So yeah, whatever the arbitrary viability number was that the progressives do
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out there, which I believe was somewhere around 24 weeks, we see that they're
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coming up at least three weeks short.
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Is that science? So this crowd that walks around with their signs that say,
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not yet a baby, that loses its juice.
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That loses its juice when you got babies surviving at 21 weeks.
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All right, let's get into it.
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Why do women have abortions? Well, it gets framed up as women's health care.
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Like, oh, it's just health care. You're denying me health care.
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You're denying my right to health care. It's disingenuous.
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The Guttmacher Institute data show the dominant reasons women give for abortion.
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The highest at 74% is that a baby would interfere with my education,
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my work, or I already have kids and that would make it more difficult.
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73% they can't afford a baby.
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It would cause relationship problems or I don't want to be a single mother, 48%.
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Rape accounts for less than 1% of all the abortion cases.
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Incest accounts for under a half percent of.
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Just maternal health threats is under half a percent.
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So the things they yell the loudest about are the least of those numbers.
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That's crazy. That's weird. You got to wonder why are they yelling loudest about the least.
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So some various state-level reporting shows elective or unspecified reasons
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for abortion, elective abortion.
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Over 95%.
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Abortions from one person are common. The CDC data shows that roughly 44% of
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women who get an abortion have had at least one prior abortion.
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And you can be a feminist and you can be like, well, what's none of your business?
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None of your business. Well, the guy who pumped that baby into you, it's his business.
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Does he get a say in it? I don't know.
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And if he's a piece of shit, he probably maybe don't care. But there are plenty
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of guys out there that aren't pieces of shit.
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But what I object to, and I will always object to, is when abortion is your
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low-cost sort of behavioral remedies or your do-over, and you have no accountability,
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that's wrong. It's wrong to use it in that way.
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And it's not absurd to think women do that. It's not absurd.
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The numbers, 44%, show that that's not absurd.
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It doesn't say how many prior abortions. It says at least one abortion prior.
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Now, Gloria Steinem, may she rest in peace.
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Did she have multiple abortions? I don't know. She celebrated abortion.
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She was a big figure in the feminist movement.
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But celebrating the death, even if you think it's okay to get an abortion,
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Even if you are okay with it,
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celebrating it is a whole new level of darkness because it is death of something, isn't it?
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Do you feel the same way about sea turtles or the red cockaded woodpecker,
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little, little, little chicks?
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Do you feel the same way about puppies?
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Do you feel the same way about any other living thing? Yeah.
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Political rhetoric has elevated these rare, tough cases to the main primary justifications.
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And then they reframe it as reproductive rights.
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Nobody is denying your ability to reproduce at all.
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And the reality is there's no such thing as women's health care.
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There's only health care.
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There's only health care. And you're not denied it.
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But equating those things to elective abortion or like comparing elective abortion
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to like prenatal care or cancer screening or whatever, that's disingenuous.
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But in reality, indeed, not word, abortion clinics treat elective abortion more
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like getting collagen or Botox injections, and they treat it like some kind
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of health care, some kind of surgery.
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And I would argue this, procedurally speaking, it's more thorough to get breast
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implants than it is to get an abortion, procedurally speaking.
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So when you bemoan me for critiquing elective abortion and saying that I'm critiquing health care itself,
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it's an absurd propaganda technique that you've been taught over your life.
39:55
It means to obfuscate the differences in the two. Abortion is not health care.
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At some point, it could be. Again, less than 1%, less than half percent comes
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from where a mother's life would be in danger should she carry on with the birth.
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Okay? That's health care. That is health care.
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And that's never been in dispute, by the way. I know you hear talking points all the time.
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That is not the case at all. Not the case at all.
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So decision-making and responsibility and accountability matter. They matter.
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I talk about those things all the time in all sorts of contexts.
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Those things don't go out the window when it comes to getting pregnant.
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Well, kids are going to be kids.
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A 14-year-old who becomes pregnant after immature choices, yeah,
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that's some real hardship right there.
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That's some highly elevated levels of maturity and decision-making that has to now happen.
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But I'm going to make some comparisons here. Prior to that 14-year-old getting
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pregnant, the shortfalls, the shortcomings all lay squarely on the parents.
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Well, and the culture that failed to equip this 14-year-old with self-regard, probably self-esteem.
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Contraception, alternatives, condoms, non-penetrative options.
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Look, nobody wants their 14-year-old out there giving blowjobs,
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but you don't get pregnant giving blowjobs.
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And this is ugly. Nobody wants their daughter out there getting anal sex.
41:59
You don't get pregnant from anal sex. I'm not condoning those things.
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I'm telling you, there's so many things going on to where you can avoid pregnancy,
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even in the heat of the moment.
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But nature, nature being strong, and that is the most, sex between two people,
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especially two impassioned people, is one of the strongest forces on this planet.
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And when you're inside and everything feels good and especially when you're
42:32
a dude and you're getting ready to come,
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you don't it it's nature tells you to push it inside and let it go,
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i don't know how it feels for a girl i know how it feels for a guy and nature
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wants you to clamp on that's what nature does,
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but but 10 000 years ago that was perpetuation of the species.
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That's what that's right that's nature so it's a big fight for the parents it's
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a tough fight but then you know what there's also abstinence and.
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Try to help your teen see that sex is something that should be reserved from,
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well, the right person for sure, the right, but the right time,
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the right level of maturity and the right reasons, not just to fit in with your
43:33
little trashy ass girlfriends or whatever or boyfriends.
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The dudes get off easy on this stuff, whereas girls get the brunt of the issue.
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And that's tragic. That's true. Nobody has held the boys accountable like the
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girls once the pregnancy happens.
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And that's why the feminists love to say that the men don't have a choice in the matter.
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Why not hold the boy accountable? Why not? Takes two. It takes two.
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Yeah it falls on the the the culture the parents all right go down another road
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with me a side road here this is going to seem off topic but it's not in.
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2024 14 year old Colt Gray,
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used an AR-15 that his dad Colin gave him as a Christmas gift or something And
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he went to school at Apalachee High School and killed four people with that gun.
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The dad with second-degree murder and related counts for ignoring warning signs,
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for not acknowledging or keeping up with the kid's mental health,
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the threats that the kid has made in the past,
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a shrine in his bedroom that he made to some other school shooter,
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and then still allowing him access to a deadly weapon.
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The jury convicted Colin Gray, the dad, and he got 15 years.
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Now Colt, the kid, the 14-year-old who did the murders, got life without parole.
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It may be a slippery slope. I don't know, man. That's a tough one.
45:27
But in this case, it wasn't too tough.
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The dad was clearly negligent. There was a lot of red flags.
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There was a lot of indicators. There was a lot of things that this dad just didn't, just ignored.
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What if we applied that same standard to the 14-year-old that gets pregnant?
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And her parents and the responsible party's parents.
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I mean, the parents failed to supervise their kid. They failed to know where
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this kid was or failed to bother checking in on him when it's too quiet for
46:05
too long. down in the basement.
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They failed to educate the kids enough on contraception.
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They might have said, hey, man, use a condom. And that's it.
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Or alternatives. Or boundaries. Or self-esteem.
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Or self-confidence. Many, many young girls out there just cave under pressure.
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Because there's little asshole boys. I was...
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I wasn't high pressure on girls when I was young, but I could talk a girl's
46:41
pants off. That's high pressure.
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And all of those failures, those are parental failures, and they all have signs.
46:49
There's signs and red flags when your kids are doing things.
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I know this in retrospect because I've missed some signs from my own kids.
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But those signs and red flags create the conditions for pregnancy.
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And then the conditions for that later, what I call the easy choices,
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which is just to end a life because there's no consequence for it.
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And a life, a human life was ended because of negligence on everybody's behalf,
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the boy, the girl, and at least four parents on each side.
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Well, maybe not always. Single parents tend to have kids who get pregnant early, don't they?
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Lack of supervision. That correlates. It's math.
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Parents overwhelmed. They can't keep up with the little things.
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They're busy trying to make a living and trying to just keep you out of jail,
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never mind getting pregnant. It's tough.
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It's tough stuff. So if we compare those two, both cases involve a minor's limited
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agency and parental enabling, if not enabling, at least negligence.
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And now modern society has chosen to criminalize the parent when the outcome was gunfire.
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But there is no parental backlash when the outcome is deleting a new human organism.
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Death resulted in both of those outcomes.
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Death resulted in both of those outcomes. Nobody gives a shit when it's a 14-year-old
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girl going to get an abortion.
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Half the abortion clinics out there are welcome. You come in,
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you're a 12-year-old girl, I need an abortion, my parents don't know, I'll step right on up.
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It's criminal, it's criminal.
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Can mitigate these catastrophic things.
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But with abortion, well, it's not my responsibility. I made a mistake.
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Well, courts crush that not my responsibility when it comes to gunfire.
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What if parents were held criminally negligent for allowing ill-equipped teens,
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to get pregnant? Both, boy and girl.
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What if parents were held financially liable at least up until the young mother
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and young boy's 18th birthday.
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I mean, hell, half the time that's the case anyway. Meemaw out there spending
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her whole Social Security check trying to keep that grandbaby in diapers.
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Never mind the poor South, right? We're not even talking about like, we're just in general.
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If we're being consistent, if we're being intellectually consistent,
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well, those kind of parallel each other. Thank you.
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Full mental capacity, folks. I don't care what they say, what they think.
49:45
I don't care what the music tells them. I don't care what,
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formerly MTV tells them. Parents are meant to be the mature mentors,
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alleged mature mentors.
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And my whole point to this is that prevention is a viable tactic.
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And not only is it a viable tactic it's a parental responsibility you have to
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keep up with your kids keep up with what your kids are doing be actively involved,
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in their life whether they want you to or not you ain't got to force your way
50:27
in and start barking orders but you need to know the boyfriend.
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You need to know the parties. You need to know what is appropriate,
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what isn't for your teen, no matter what the other teens are doing.
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It's your responsibility. All right.
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That was that side road. What if parents were held responsible?
50:50
All right. Let's get back to it. One of the big arguments, rape,
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incest, and all that stuff.
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And the true statistics already said of rape and well under 1% for all those.
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The question here is a life conceived in rape worth less than a life conceived
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by consent or pressure or coercion.
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I don't think so. I don't think the circumstances of that child being conceived,
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changes that child's humanity.
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For that child's rights. I don't think...
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Who chooses the value of a human and who chooses to define when life starts.
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It all comes back to that. But yeah, incest, that's almost a no-brainer.
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You think, oh my God, there's an elevated genetic risk of some kind of mental
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retardation or some defect.
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But even then, most incest children aren't mentally stunted.
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If you look at real statistics, real statistics.
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Even if has a, has a pending disability ever been a legitimate reason to terminate a birth?
52:11
Now, eugenicists say, yeah,
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for those of us trying to create the perfect race. Yeah, sure.
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Oh, what kid's going to have down syndrome, kill it.
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That is inhumane folks. I don't care how you shake it down. Okay.
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The value of a life. All right, let's step back in time a little bit.
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My body, my choice. My body, my choice. My body, my choice.
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Keep your laws off my body. My body, my choice.
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Science tells us the mother and the fetus are two distinct humans, not one.
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I heard some bizarre thing on the internet the other day where one woman tried
52:59
to legitimately argue that the fetus is a parasite.
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And she was dead set on it. She's wrong.
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My body, my choice, treats the second human as disposable tissue,
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as a parasite, rather than a separate living organism with its own body,
53:23
its own little pea-sized body, its own genome, its own set of DNA.
53:30
In its own developmental trajectory, it's not going to develop into a 20-foot long worm.
53:38
It's going to develop into a human.
53:43
Around late 60s, right? 69, 70 with the feminist movement, with the feminist activists.
53:52
And they were walking around with their placards probably provided to them by Planned Parenthood.
53:58
It's my body. It should be my decision. And then that got more succinct because
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the propaganda machine knows how to make things catchy.
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The propaganda machine, the protests are a form of or a tactic,
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my body, my decision, which then got really just solidified into my body,
54:20
my choice. It's so succinct and it's so simple.
54:25
The reproductive decisions belong solely to the pregnant woman,
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no one else, not the law, not a doctor, not the husband or boyfriend friend
54:37
or one night stand or whatever.
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So one of my questions is it does in fact take two to create a pregnancy. I.
54:50
Vote in whether or not that pregnancy produces life or death. How do you justify that?
54:58
Well, because I'm the one that has to carry it.
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Well, is that not a factor as you were taking his cock inside of you?
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Were you too wrapped up in the moment to consider that possibility?
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And then the progressive sort of militant feminist amplified it.
55:15
Repetition in anything, the way the left works, the way progressivism works,
55:20
is repetition creates fact.
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You say it enough, it just becomes true.
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That's the way to do it. And it becomes a cultural absolute.
55:31
There is no questioning it. Haven't you heard? My body, my choice.
55:36
And there's a lot of feminist influence out there still that treat,
55:41
and I mentioned Gloria Stein, that treat multiple abortions as some kind of,
55:45
badge of liberation from the patriarchy.
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Well, you still had to fuck a dude to get pregnant.
55:53
So he's just getting a free pass completely. He gets to shoot his load inside of you and move on.
56:01
And then you're so liberated, you get to go get an abortion because you're so liberated.
56:07
And so they've completely detached the sexual act itself from what the natural results of that are,
56:17
completely disregarding birth control and all these things. Now, if you...
56:25
That just serves to continue to dehumanize the result, the little life that
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was created that will never, ever emerge because you're such a brave, bold feminist.
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If you're so brave and bold, don't go get pregnant. Don't have sex with dudes,
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or just use contraception.
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Is that a patriarchal demand that,
56:54
you're being subjected if you use a condom or birth control or whatever,
57:00
or the pullout method? Hell, anything.
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How is multiple abortions a badge of honor for you? How? I don't understand it.
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Okay I got a note here I'm not even going to go into the the industry the abortion
57:16
industry and body parts and and selling little organs and all that shit I'm
57:21
not even going to go into that that goes.
57:27
All right well what's the practical alternative well here it is What am I going to say?
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Adoption. Yeah, adoption.
57:38
All the pro-choice advocates out there challenge the pro-life position by claiming
57:46
that opponents of abortion, they don't want the babies either.
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They're not going to take care of them, so why am I forced to take care of it,
57:55
if you're not willing to?
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Well, never mind, you're the one that did all the sex. But besides that.
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They imply that opposing abortion requires that you personally adopt every unwanted kid.
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Sort of moral component of just deleting a life, but never mind that.
58:20
In reality, there is a freaking enormous adoption industry.
58:28
And it too, much like the abortion industry, there are nefarious parts of that.
58:35
And I know this and I understand this, but it's not the much like probably you
58:42
might say, well, selling body parts is only just one little thing that you're
58:45
highlighting. Well, same with adoption.
58:50
And this adoption system in America, especially, it's a path,
58:56
right? You can't just go give a baby to any rando.
58:59
I mean, God almighty, there's so much horror out there.
59:02
So you have to vet and you have to do all the right things to get these children
59:08
placed with parents who are willing to, to care and love for the, for these children.
59:12
But it's, it's an, it's an option that chooses life.
59:16
It's an option that chooses life.
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All right, I'm gonna side note this again, man. One of my, I know this is, this may sound silly.
59:25
One of my favorite movies is Juno with Ellen Page back in, I don't even know
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what year it was, 08 or I don't know. It was early 2000, maybe. Juno.
59:37
And the whole story was, it was brilliant. I thought it was brilliant then,
59:40
I think it's brilliant now.
59:43
It was unique and a little edgy for its time.
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And the protagonist was Juno, was Ellen Page, and she was a high school student who had sex with her,
59:58
well, best buddy they were friends but she wanted to she she wanted to get she
1:00:03
wanted to have sex says she had sex with a little buddy paulie and got pregnant okay.
1:00:13
And she was, well, she got pregnant and she was faced with whether or not to,
1:00:17
get an abortion or not. And she even went to an abortion clinic and was like
1:00:22
put off by the sort of environment. And,
1:00:26
she ran into a young girl who was out, one single girl protesting the abortion clinic.
1:00:32
And as Juno's walking into the clinic, the little girl goes,
1:00:36
do you know the baby has fingernails?
1:00:39
Like whatever stage she was at already.
1:00:42
And she was like, what?
1:00:47
Anyway, she ultimately decided that adoption would be the way to go.
1:00:52
So they, her and her best friend sat on a little journey to find good adoptive
1:00:58
parents that they found in the penny saver. It was funny.
1:01:03
And it was, you know, the white bread, upper middle class suburban couple who
1:01:09
were successful and all.
1:01:12
So anyway it was a great movie it was a great movie and the writer named Diablo
1:01:19
Cody who's a progressive pro-choice person,
1:01:24
later came out and lamented the fact that that she I quote fucking hated all
1:01:31
of you for interpreting this movie as pro-life she fucking hated that,
1:01:38
Now, the movie wasn't an overtly pro-life or pro-abortion movie.
1:01:44
It was literally just the struggle of this one teen girl working through this
1:01:49
with her parents and her boyfriend and then all this.
1:01:54
It wasn't pro-life or pro-choice. It was just...
1:02:02
Just the life of this girl. But the writer come out and said,
1:02:06
I fucking hated all of you for interpreting this as pro-life.
1:02:11
Man, imagine that. I just did an episode on hate.
1:02:16
I just did an episode on hate and the word and words mean things.
1:02:20
And this lady is a writer. She wrote this movie and it was a brilliant movie.
1:02:25
And even though I think she's misguided, I think the movie stands.
1:02:32
So the movie that she wrote that did not kill an unborn child and had probably
1:02:38
a positive impact on some people, I'm sure it did, she hates that it could have
1:02:43
been misinterpreted to have that positive impact.
1:02:46
It's so bizarre to me why she hated that so bad.
1:02:53
It's crazy. Such a good movie, Juno.
1:02:58
Since the year 2000, we're 26 years into it now, abortions average over 1 million
1:03:05
per year, over a million per year.
1:03:08
It's 2026, so we're talking a lot of people.
1:03:13
Guttmacher Institute estimates roughly 1.31 million.
1:03:21
And it kind of goes up and down from there. 2017 was a low year.
1:03:25
There was 862,000 in 2017, and then it rose again, and then,
1:03:33
yeah, it's been, so about a million a year.
1:03:40
Since 2000, we're somewhere around 25 to 28 million little dead babies,
1:03:46
40% of those being black babies.
1:03:49
God knows how many others for whatever reasons.
1:03:53
And I was talking about legal adoption, and legal adoption operates on a far smaller scale.
1:04:00
What's the procedure to get an abortion? You go in, maybe do a consult, you come back.
1:04:06
What do you do? You spend 30 minutes, an hour, two hours on the table,
1:04:12
put your clothes on and go home.
1:04:14
Well, illegal adoption can't operate like that. So adoptions from foster care,
1:04:21
average about $50,000 to $60,000 per year. Okay.
1:04:30
Adoptions are around $25,000 a year.
1:04:36
So adoptions from foster care is different than the private domestic non-step
1:04:41
parent adoptions, I mean, around $25,000 a year.
1:04:46
Inter-country adoptions are around $20,000.
1:04:51
They kind of peaked at an O4 around $23,000, but they have fallen drastically in her country.
1:05:00
And why would, look, I get it, people, war-torn countries and all this and that.
1:05:07
In America, we have enough kids to adopt. If you're all about bi-American, then adopt American.
1:05:17
There's homeless kids. There's, well, a million abortions a year.
1:05:21
Adopt at home, for God's sakes.
1:05:25
So anyway, total non-stamped parent adoptions in the overall system,
1:05:30
somewhere around 80,000 a year. And we're talking since 2000.
1:05:35
So let's see, domestic, magnitude, 10,000 children. So.
1:05:44
Possibly, with foster care adoptions and home adoptions, we're possibly around
1:05:52
a million within a country and stuff like that also.
1:05:58
So it's getting up there, but it's not reaching abortion numbers.
1:06:05
And the fact of the matter is, no matter how many kids get adopted every year,
1:06:08
that don't change the abortion numbers for some reason.
1:06:13
And there's still tens of thousands of kids in foster care, and something like
1:06:18
15,000 a year age out of foster care.
1:06:22
And what is the next logical?
1:06:24
Yeah, possibly crime, right? And there's a cycle.
1:06:29
The legal adoption process in America, it's very deliberate.
1:06:32
It's meant to be very transparent, and it's meant to be very protective.
1:06:37
And yes, all those things equal bureaucracy, and that makes everything slower.
1:06:44
But prospective parents got to do a sort of social worker's got to come out
1:06:49
and assess their fitness and their home, finances, their backgrounds, their medical.
1:06:59
Evaluations, home inspections, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. all that stuff.
1:07:07
And then birth parents have to provide informed consent.
1:07:12
After the child is born, the birth parents have to consent to like, okay, yeah.
1:07:17
And so that, you know, there's waiting periods on that up to 72 hours in some places.
1:07:23
And then there's a window where they can revoke that adoption,
1:07:28
but then at some point that window closes.
1:07:31
And then the courts finalize it. And within a couple months,
1:07:36
full parental rights exist for these adoptive parents, and that's great.
1:07:44
Obviously, that's a whole other level of bureaucracy and the centralized sort
1:07:47
of authority, which we know I hate.
1:07:50
And immigration stuff is involved in that. And you got to have all these things
1:07:56
to prevent fraud because we don't want to human traffic children across.
1:08:00
Well, we don't want to human traffic children anyway.
1:08:05
But the systems all are set up and meant to prioritize the child's welfare and
1:08:11
the voluntary choice of the parents.
1:08:13
That's what it's meant to support.
1:08:17
Of course, there's an underground market. There's an underground market for
1:08:20
everything. And those numbers are hard to come by.
1:08:25
But human trafficking that we know about,
1:08:30
somewhere in the tens of thousands annually,
1:08:34
around 16,000 is one UNODC that I don't United Nations office of I don't know
1:08:43
I can't remember they're tracking around 16,000 a year.
1:08:49
That's not just minors. And some of them, yeah, forced labor, forced sex.
1:08:57
So, yeah, there's an underground. Child trafficking composes about a third of
1:09:03
the known victimhood there.
1:09:06
But it's more exploitation-oriented than it is.
1:09:10
They're not adopting these children officially and then exploiting them.
1:09:14
They're using them within the system.
1:09:17
Let's see.
1:09:20
Some scandals. Let's see. Guatemala, prior to 08, they had long-running networks,
1:09:27
in Georgia of over 100,000 illicit placements over several decades.
1:09:35
And that's the country of Georgia.
1:09:38
In China, they have a hard time accounting for all their children.
1:09:44
And demand for infants, right? They sit by and sell babies. They falsify documents.
1:09:52
So the U.S. doesn't have any reliable figures on tracking the selling of a baby.
1:10:01
But we know it exists. It pops up sometimes above the surface.
1:10:06
We'll catch that once in a while, but they're pretty rare comparing.
1:10:13
So the mismatch between abortion volume and the legal placements,
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it doesn't really justify this underground trade.
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There is a mismatch, but it's manageable.
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But if there's a demand, somebody was going to give the supply.
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So the chastisement that we get, the pro-lifers get from the pro-choicers,
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that we got to personally adopt every potentially aborted baby,
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that's a reductionist way to frame that, and it completely misses the point,
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like most progressive talking points do. Okay.
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Institutions, tax incentives, legal pathways that enable thousands of families
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every year to provide a healthy, happy, loving home.
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The vastly larger number of abortions, well, that represents choices that take
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away any option for that kid.
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Taking responsibility for your own actions, well, that includes the recognition
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that the living human inside of you is in fact living human and the things that
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allow that human to thrive exist.
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And there are people out there willing to take that baby.
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It's because you don't want to walk around high school with a big pregnant belly. Yeah, it's awkward.
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Yeah, you'll get the various stares. You'll get more, you'll probably get more
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support than ridicule these days. Yeah.
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In the 50s, women would run away, get pregnant, run off.
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If they were compelled to keep that baby, they would leave their hometown.
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You don't have to do that these days. We're more educated. We're smarter.
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We're more open-minded. We're more...
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Semantics, responsibility, and the lie. The lie.
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The bottom line here is we either acknowledge the biological beginning of the
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human life and all the implications of that,
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or we ignore evidence and fact,
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and use politically convenient language to justify deleting a human life.
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Murder is already illegal. Murder is already illegal.
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And in my opinion, abortion on demand, elective abortion on demand is murder.
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Abortion as a do-over, as a oops, I made a mistake, let me rewind,
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and treating a little human's existence as disposable, that's murder.
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Abortion as a legitimate medical necessity Is not murder,
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But as it is Minds are made up And they're not willing to hear the science Factions
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have chosen their positions Based on rhetoric Based on all sorts of things,
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Not necessarily fact Mark Twain said this And I paraphrase It's easier to make
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people believe a lie Than it is to convince them they've been lied to The,
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is that lie. It was built on an admitted lie, and it denies the most pure and innocent human life.
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Because when that baby, that spark happens and that baby is conceived,
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that is the most innocent thing on this planet in that moment.
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That lie prioritizes personal convenience over accountability.
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We've come to be a nation that just shucks accountability. It disguises that
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selfish lack of accountability in the language of women's rights and women's
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health care. It's a disguise.
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It's not genuine. New humans deserve better than that.
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New humans deserve equal application of scientific evidence.
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And they deserve the opportunity to live and grow and learn and love and succeed
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or fail and experience all of the things that you've got to experience, good and bad,
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and experience all the opportunity that you may have considered yourself to
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have lost. You haven't lost it.
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You just got your mind made up that you have.
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A new human life deserves that chance. A new human life is the most innocent thing on the planet.
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Those are my thoughts on abortion. Nobody asked.
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I just shared.
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Say by the year 2030, every individual in America will have a podcast.
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I encourage it. I encourage it. Start a podcast, share your opinion,
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try to, try to use it, you know, try to back it up with a little bit of fact for sure. But yeah.
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Okay. In the, in the vein of my episode on hate, do I hate a young woman who
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felt compelled to get an abortion?
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No, I don't. She may have been misguided.
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She may have been lied to. She may have been used. She may have been a lot of things.
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I don't hate her. I don't want to delete her from the planet.
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I think she is wrong. I think she is misguided.
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And there's no way to know this, but I'm sure there's a significant number of
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women out there who have aborted, who hold probably some deep regrets.
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They probably have some conviction about it, probably.
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Maybe they don't dwell on it. Maybe they do. But, I mean, I think that that's
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a—I didn't talk about it because it's an immeasurable number. How do you do that?
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I haven't seen those surveys. So I'm sure those exist.
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And likewise I'm sure there's a significant number of women out there that do,
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in fact use abortion as just irresponsible you know do-over,
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I heard of a woman it's anecdotal but I heard of one woman that had like maybe
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eight abortions Jesus man like at some point is there not scarring or internal scarring,
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at some point, is that not damaging you to a degree? I mean, I don't know, man.
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People got mixed feelings on like the the day after pill or the the plan b or
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whatever i don't know enough about that stuff to talk about it and from a religious
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christian perspective people probably reject it,
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but if you had sex and you let a guy,
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come inside of you and you know you're not on any birth control,
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can't you,
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The egg likely, I don't know how long it takes for that to happen.
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So the argument is that once the sperm fertilizes the egg, that's life.
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And you're still killing a life, even if it's plan B.
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And so, and that's why I didn't talk about it. I don't know enough about it.
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So I'm not going to talk about it. I know plenty about condoms.
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And what I know about condoms is in the heat of the moment, specifically dudes.
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They don't want to take that six seconds it takes to pull the condom out of
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a wrapper and roll it down your cock.
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It kills the mood, or I can't get that feeling.
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I know that to be true. Well, are you willing to be a dad?
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Well, no, my girl, she believes in abortion, so whatever. I'll just pay for
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the abortion. It's irresponsible.
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I didn't talk much about birth control. You know, some people,
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I think the church might have strong feelings on that. I'm not sure.
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And some parents, you might be considered irresponsible for putting your daughter
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on birth control at the age of 13 or 14.
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But there is, again, there's reality versus ideology.
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I can tell you now, and this is not correct. It's dead wrong.
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I was over-sexed, but I lost my virginity at the age of 12.
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Madness. Absolute madness. There was not a single condom in sight.
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In fact, they probably didn't even make condoms small enough for my little goober when I was 12.
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There was not a condom in sight. I have no idea. The girl was.
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Four years older than me. so well old enough to be on birth control.
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I don't know if she was or not. Anyway, it's crazy.
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It's crazy. It's madness. Were my parents responsible for that?
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Well, I was unsupervised as a child and a lot of young kids are.
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You can't lock your kids down.
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You can't always have a babysitter, especially does a 12 year old need a babysitter?
1:19:56
Maybe these days, who knows? But back in the day, man, at 12,
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I was riding my bike all over Southside, Southwest Atlanta.
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Contraception. Is birth control the correct way?
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I don't know. Is condoms? Yeah. I mean, that's the easy, that's the easy, easy fix.
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I don't recommend the pullout method, but because,
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have the maturity or.
1:20:32
The control over your urges to stop and put a condom on, chances are you don't
1:20:38
have the control over your urges to pull out before you explode inside.
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So, and I didn't go into culture very much.
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The the the modern culture the pop culture the kardashian culture the hip-hop culture,
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i didn't go into that i say hip-hop culture now what about what about the late
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70s and early 80s yeah the hair metal the hair the hair band culture yeah everybody was fucking,
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consequences be damned.
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Anyway there's a lot i didn't go into so if you got comments or thoughts on
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it talk about it let me know you know maybe be respectful and maybe throw legitimate
1:21:28
arguments you know don't,
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if you start out with name calling i'm just going to ignore you i'm not going
1:21:34
to bar it ban you or whatever i'm just going to ignore you but so i'm always
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willing to have the debate that's what i have today, good people.
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This, yeah, this one might've went kind of long, but I think,
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I don't know, I think it's worth putting out there. I think it's worth people listening to.
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I don't think this is going to affect a lot of young people because I don't,
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I don't know that many young people listen to this, but as a parent,
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it might give you a different perspective.
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If you've got younger kids.
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I know a lot of people that I do, that do listen to me have kids in the, you know.
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From two years old upwards to 17 years old.
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There's a lot of parents in my demographic. So is it a conversation worth having
1:22:27
with your kid? Hell yeah, it is.
1:22:29
An open conversation. A non-accusatory conversation.
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And a sort of reality check. Not a you better this, you better that.
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But just, hey, you know, there's consequences. Things happen.
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And don't threaten them. And don't tell them what you will or won't do if you
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don't really mean to carry through with it either.
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But there are parents out there, if your 14-year-old daughter gets pregnant,
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she's out. Done. See you. Good luck.
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I don't agree with that. But there's parents out there that will do that.
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It's a damn shame. It's a tragedy.
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