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NFL Week 7 DFS Takedown Breakdown | October 20, 2025 | DraftKings DFS Lineup Review and Analysis · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear to the left. What's up? Ember one?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tambalin here aka Totag and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of the Takedown Breakdown. Week seven review. NFL DFS
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be breaking down all things DraftKings, a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of fan duel, everything to do with the slate. Yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: We do have a big two gamer and some showdown,
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  Speaker 1: super late showdown tonight ten Eastern. I'll be up watching
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  Speaker 1: the Jay's game, so Big Game seven that should be electric.
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  Speaker 1: So we do have a show coming up as usual
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  Speaker 1: at two pm Eastern. Hoop title and myself but today
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  Speaker 1: joining me. Nads is away on his cruise. Shut up
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  Speaker 1: to day's But got our guy, m Bellman ninety sixty seven. Matt,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on man? Excited to have you here again.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on with you?
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  Speaker 2: Nothing? Man? Great, great sports time, as you kind of
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  Speaker 2: just alluded to.
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  Speaker 3: Got Game seven of the ALCS football College football. I
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  Speaker 3: mean we're in the grind right now, and it's so fun.
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  Speaker 3: There aren't that many times in the year that are
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  Speaker 3: better than right now.
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  Speaker 1: NBA back tomorrow, I mean, there's literally everything going on.
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  Speaker 1: like is it just but you got football? NFL? You
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  Speaker 1: had tonight, the Showdown, the two Gamer, the NBA stuff
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  Speaker 1: coming back. There's a lot to get in there for
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  Speaker 1: and get you set up for a week of success.
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  Speaker 1: So hopefully that's something you can do. How is the birthday? Man?
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  Speaker 1: Happy you belie belated birthday. We wish to toe you
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  Speaker 1: on the show yesterday, but how was it for you?
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  Speaker 2: It was good man.
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  Speaker 3: We talked a little bit before, you know, getting up there,
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  Speaker 3: so the birthdays don't mean as much as they certainly
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  Speaker 3: used to.
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  Speaker 2: Times are different now.
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  Speaker 3: I was beginning to tell you before we got on,
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  Speaker 3: my three year old was a little bit sad that
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't her birthday yesterday. So I kind of just
• 2:18
  Speaker 3: let her pretend that it was her birthday all day
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  Speaker 3: because I don't care. She was all about it. So
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  Speaker 3: just family time, you know. I got four girls over here,
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  Speaker 3: including my dog. So football family, it's what it's about.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. Add the football. I talk about, you know, family,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's this family first. I agree with that, like I
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  Speaker 1: always go with that. But we talk about you know,
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  Speaker 1: making money or getting like in the game that we play.
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  Speaker 1: It's competitive when it comes to that's not just about
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  Speaker 1: the money, but that's part of it. So the finances
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  Speaker 1: and then the fitness. But you got to add football
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  Speaker 1: in there too. I like that called a little little
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  Speaker 1: extra f on the on the end. So we'll break
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  Speaker 1: it down as usual. We're gonna go through the perfect lineup.
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  Speaker 1: The dashboard is not up to be able to see.
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  Speaker 1: They only have the first half of the games updated
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  Speaker 1: for people looking at that, but we do have the
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  Speaker 1: stone for me yesterday, the Sneaky Game and the Target
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  Speaker 1: Game were the two best games that you needed to
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  Speaker 1: have if you had the bow Knicks stuff or if
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  Speaker 1: you had the Herbert stuff and not I mean Mahomes
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  Speaker 1: great game three quarters. People know I'm retiring the bit though, Matt,
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  Speaker 1: like people get so serious about this never Mahomes thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a bit forever, but people started to take
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  Speaker 1: it very seriously. Yesterday I think I got to retire it,
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  Speaker 1: just move on. Spoiler alert wasn't needed again. And people said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: but three quarters, Well, Herbert barely played the first two
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  Speaker 1: quarters of good football and then showed up and bo
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  Speaker 1: Nicks played like one quarter, but it was enough to
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  Speaker 1: show up on the optable, which we'll get to in
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  Speaker 1: a second. So what's your thoughts on the slate yesterday
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  Speaker 1: as a whole, just what you saw?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think that only three quarters Mahomes counter is
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  Speaker 3: kind of for not because that was inherent risk in
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  Speaker 3: Mahomes yesterday, so that was kind of.
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  Speaker 2: You know, part of the deal with playing him. He
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  Speaker 2: was smashed while he was in there, but the Raiders
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  Speaker 2: couldn't keep up, so that certainly limited his upside. Was
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  Speaker 2: an interesting slate You mentioned it. The game that.
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  Speaker 3: Was expected to go nuts ended up with sixty six points,
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  Speaker 3: but it didn't go nuts. Obviously, Ceedee Lamb was really good,
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  Speaker 3: but Jade and Daniels getting hurt and the Washington side
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  Speaker 3: really doing nothing hurt that game. And that game came
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  Speaker 3: in really really highly owned. I played a lot of it.
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  Speaker 3: I had a couple of lineups with mostly pieces from
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  Speaker 3: that game cash, but I feel like if you got
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  Speaker 3: off the chalk this week outside of you know, Judkins
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  Speaker 3: and Rashi Rice, you were potentially in a really good spot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean it was talked about too yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: The thought process was like, if somebody could beat Mahomes,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's that Philly mini game.
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  Speaker 2: It did.
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  Speaker 1: Ended up being Davante and aj Brown. They were right
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  Speaker 1: in that same Rice range, and then we talked about
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  Speaker 1: it a ton. It was on my leverage lane, shot
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  Speaker 1: up to my guy Alex blikel he had the MIMS
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  Speaker 1: call which which made a lot of members a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money, and myself made a good run at the
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  Speaker 1: one fifty three max yesterday on DraftKings, but Keenan Allen
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  Speaker 1: was in there and some of the other guys and
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  Speaker 1: ended up being gads and on the op. But I
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  Speaker 1: should note two eighty six point sixty six. We always
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  Speaker 1: do this. Everyone's like, of course, that's the perfect lineup.
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  Speaker 1: We're just looking at it to see. We do have
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  Speaker 1: the million maker winner from the twenty screenshot. He posted
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  Speaker 1: it on x We'll congratulate him here in a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was one of the nice I think actually,
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  Speaker 1: because we've reviewed pretty much every week, I think it's
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  Speaker 1: the nicest twenty dollars million maker lineup I've seen all season,
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  Speaker 1: and in a while, it was a very nice lineup.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a minute. But what do
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  Speaker 1: you see here with the optimal outside of the obvious?
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  Speaker 1: I think the quin Shawn Judkins stuff people complaining Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: three touchdowns is an unlikely thing, but I put that
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  Speaker 1: one on as a caveat when we talked on the
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  Speaker 1: show yesterday with Hoop title on myself about don't won't
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  Speaker 1: come in here and complain about if this guy has
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  Speaker 1: a good game or if rice.
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  Speaker 3: And that was part of the deal with Judkins, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he got there with three touchdowns, which in a lot
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  Speaker 3: of ways is lucky and you can't count on that.
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  Speaker 3: But on the other side of it, Miami is horrendous defensively,
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  Speaker 3: especially against the run, and if you look a little
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  Speaker 3: bit into the weeds last week, Stefansy got killed all
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  Speaker 3: week in Cleveland for only giving Judkins twelve carries. They
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  Speaker 3: had first in goal with the one against the Steelers
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  Speaker 3: last week and didn't run Judkins once he got He
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  Speaker 3: was getting killed all week. He mentioned it multiple times
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  Speaker 3: in his press conferences and he's not one who talks
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  Speaker 3: about a lot at all that he messed up not
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  Speaker 3: giving Judkins the ball. More so, it was a priority
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  Speaker 3: to just give him the rock.
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  Speaker 2: They did.
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  Speaker 3: The three touchdowns were lucky, but he was in a
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  Speaker 3: great spot Anyways. The biggest thing that stands out to
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  Speaker 3: me from this lineup is the double Philly receivers with
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  Speaker 3: no Jalen Hurts. Hurts was really good. Bo Nicks was
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  Speaker 3: even better. So sometimes you got to think outside the box.
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  Speaker 3: I think this lineup did a really really good job
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  Speaker 3: of playing solid plays like Judkins, like Trey McBride, but
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  Speaker 3: also getting outside the box.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like this is this is looking at the optimals.
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  Speaker 1: So like this is the part I'm always telling people
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  Speaker 1: like this is the perfect lineup and oh my fault.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you're good. I'm just saying, like, that's the this
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  Speaker 1: is a good point you just let into action. Hilarious
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  Speaker 1: because it works out perfect because like the bow Knicks thing,
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  Speaker 1: this is when we try and explain to people about
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  Speaker 1: naked quarterbacks hitting on optimals. Sure, but it's there you,
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, were two forty nine point six versus
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  Speaker 1: is what the winning million maker lineup that will show
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  Speaker 1: in a second here versus two eighty six point six.
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  Speaker 1: There's a ton of leeway to find eleven hundred dollars
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  Speaker 1: to get to to get to hurts, and I think
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  Speaker 1: you lose like fifteen points and then you got to
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  Speaker 1: drop somewhere else and lose a little bit, but you
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  Speaker 1: would still win the Millie. And and that's again it's
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  Speaker 1: like if some butts, I get all that. I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to just explain it to people. It's no different than
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  Speaker 1: the two tight end thing finally hitting, like it has
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  Speaker 1: not hit. It took a thirty two point four point
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  Speaker 1: performance from Gadson for it to show up. And I
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: was trying to find it here just go back. I
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  Speaker 1: got so much crap to go through. But like the
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  Speaker 1: the other lineups yesterday, I'll have to pull it up
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  Speaker 1: after maybe if I find it. But like, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: there's a ton of lineups up there that didn't have Gadson,
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  Speaker 1: and then weren't two tight end lineups that obviously could
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  Speaker 1: have just been McBride and something else in there, like
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  Speaker 1: if you had mim for example, as a four wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver lineup, Like there's a ton of different ways to get you.
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  Speaker 1: But either way, the winner of the millionmaker had double
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  Speaker 1: tight end and the optimal had it, so it definitely
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  Speaker 1: can happen. But just to note it, there is no Rice,
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  Speaker 1: there is no Mahomes, there is no who are some
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  Speaker 1: of the other guys I'm thinking of, No like no Washington,
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  Speaker 1: Dallas at all, No Lamb right is a big factor
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  Speaker 1: even in this, so anything else when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: the perfect lineup. I think this just shows that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you can find some of these off the wall.
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  Speaker 1: I will say this ownership very low on Smith Brown.
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  Speaker 1: People didn't really go back to Keenan as much as
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  Speaker 1: the week before. Not much on Gadson, tight end was
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  Speaker 1: spread out, Cleveland and Judkins were popular. Taylor got held
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  Speaker 1: in check because he's almost nine grand, so it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like he got out of control on ownership, and then
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: bo Nick's low owned. Any other thoughts with this one
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  Speaker 1: before we go to the actual winning twenty dollars milli maker.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, two things.
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  Speaker 3: One, Keenan is really frustrating, and why you can't always
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  Speaker 3: just go off of what happened last week Obviously with
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  Speaker 3: Clinton Johnston out. Keenan was a much better play on paper,
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  Speaker 3: but didn't run as many routes as one would expect
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  Speaker 3: without Johnston in that spot comes back and has a
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  Speaker 3: monster scored at a really low priced tag, very low ownership.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, kind of got to as far as
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  Speaker 3: last week goes, you got to note it, but you
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  Speaker 3: can't use it as the bible because things change, and
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to just comment on new ones. I know
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: he's coming on here. He said, I got off the
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  Speaker 3: chalk Eloa. That didn't work out for me too. Well,
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: I get it, me neither in a lot of lineups.
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  Speaker 3: I just meant that most of getting away from the
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  Speaker 3: chalk didn't work out, but a lot of the chalk
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  Speaker 3: didn't work out as well, So you needed to be
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  Speaker 3: different in a bunch of spots to really get there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, my guy chief always says that, Yeah, you're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna go to wrap up. By the way, week
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  Speaker 1: seven's not over. I said, I'm retiring it after week seven.
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  Speaker 1: But it is hilarious, Like there's a quote it's something
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  Speaker 1: about you live long enough to be the villain. It's
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: like people are literally trying to get my homes there
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  Speaker 1: just to try and say it against me or something
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  Speaker 1: that I have told people. Yeah, yesterday I haven't played
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  Speaker 1: this guy for one hundred and two slates. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: playing him now, and I told everybody just like I said,
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  Speaker 1: and I've got it here. I'm gonna show the Stone.
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  Speaker 1: He was definitely a play yesterday if you've been playing,
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  Speaker 1: and this is what I tried to explain. He just
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  Speaker 1: did the video on Mastermind with Naids and myself. He's
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  Speaker 1: highly optimal. He has the pieces to go with him.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't shitting on anybody else for playing him. I
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  Speaker 1: was just saying again once again, why I don't play him,
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: and wasn't going to. And I ended up escaping with
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: a pretty good day. It felt good to come back
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: when you know people were saying, oh, how's your Herbert
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  Speaker 1: play holding up? And then he dunked on my homes
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  Speaker 1: that when that happens, so I appreciate it. So yeah,
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: we'll review some of my lineups as well, just to
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  Speaker 1: show you guys. But again, I can't give enough credit
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  Speaker 1: to the Stone, the team over at chip A Nation
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  Speaker 1: Love by the way too, love Hoopster. There's nobody better
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: than our guy who at telling you a guy's a
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: shitty play one week and then hopping back on the
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  Speaker 1: next week and just watching him absolutely crush. So congrats,
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: you know, congrats just to hoop on always having the
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: good side of the coin when it comes to that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: The Judkins bound, he said, no, no, no, this is his week.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't last week. And even though he got more popular,
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  Speaker 1: it really has nothing to do with that. Andrew did
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  Speaker 1: mention something else though, And this is my key always.
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  Speaker 1: It's on the stone in the Mastermind program, nads and
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: I just broke down an hour. It's not for all members.
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  Speaker 1: It's an additional add on, but you can get in
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: for less than one hundred bucks to check it out.
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  Speaker 1: It's a one time membership for two ninety seven and
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: you're in for life. But just noting it, it shows
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: how we read these and how we put together a
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: player pool and then go build in Saber. We have
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: a how to on the website on how to use
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: this tool and what it's about and explains it. But
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: if you want to how I like a personal breakdown
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  Speaker 1: the process. We do that as an additional with the
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  Speaker 1: Mastermind program. But Judkins clearly popped, Rashie Rice clearly popped.
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  Speaker 1: You have to find ways to get different with these pieces,
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  Speaker 1: so I definitely think that's important when you're looking at it.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing I was gonna note Matt is just
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: we tagged the stone. That's why we say it's literally
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: the best tool in DFS. It's got everything. We don't
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: just say it's it's right here. The success stories are
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: out there. You can see them. It has the report
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: short card on how you beat up on teams. Pass
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  Speaker 1: defense very bad. We saw Sutton, we saw Mims, we
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: saw bo Nick's pass all over them, run on them,
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: everything like this just wasn't a good defense. We knew
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: that could speed up. You see, the Chargers game was
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  Speaker 1: a target game. Look at these optimals ten eleven, nine seven,
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: like a bunch of them. Pittman on the other side,
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, Warren. You'll see my lineup when I get there.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, Shawn's in here too. This is cool. Congrats
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: to Hoop on the Judkins call it is. He did
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: take his first L and ship at games on the
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: head to head, but he's still big time favorite for
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: I think it's set up to over over unders eleven
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  Speaker 1: and a half. I think he's still the favorite. That
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: was the first L that he took all season. So yeah,
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: undefeated no longer so this guy scary. Shout up the scary.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: I was in here supporting us. I'll show my fan
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: duel lineup in a minute. Really cost me, like the
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: only guy up there that had him, and he had
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: three point seven yeah points. That was brutal. So it happened.
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  Speaker 3: I played so much of him too. I mean, he
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: destroyed me yesterday. But it's much more popular than I mean,
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: that whole game is really popular. I took a heavy
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: approach on that game. It didn't work out.
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  Speaker 2: It. You could see in the first quarter though, how
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: that game really could have gone nuts.
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate, I appreciate you. Coach sav says, I
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: do not retire it. I'm an avid follower and hit
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: the like button. I'm not gonna stop doing it. I'm
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: saying I'm gonna stop talking about it or gloating or whatever.
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: It's just not my style. I don't care anyway, Like
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  Speaker 1: I really, just like I said, if you're playing the
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: amount you're supposed to be playing and you can afford
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: to lose it and move on and play the next slate,
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  Speaker 1: I would have congratulated everybody still told them it was
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  Speaker 1: great that, you know, he was popping in the stone
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  Speaker 1: it was. It was definitely a good week to use him.
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  Speaker 1: But I said it yesterday. I've been around for the
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  Speaker 1: five to seven weeks of the one hundred and two
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  Speaker 1: where it actually was a good week for him and people.
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  Speaker 1: I think this week he's gonna be needed and he
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: still wasn't needed. Look, the Optimizers didn't even need anyone
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  Speaker 1: from Washington Dallas. Like you said earlier, it's not just
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  Speaker 1: these spots. It's more of like hoping you learn about
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: the game that we play. And it's not like the
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  Speaker 1: pick and the play and the but it's gotta be
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: this this week. It's it's gotta be something like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the six to seven times that we've seen it, just
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  Speaker 1: to have it. But all right, anyway, let's move on
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: to another spot. There's no ma Homes and that is
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  Speaker 1: in the Millionmaker line up yesterday. Congrats to Alexander Cole
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: for I know he shouted out Established the Run and
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: some others theres again, congrats to him. It's awesome to
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: see anybody that wins a million dollars is a phenomenal thing.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: And like I said, Matt, I'll kick it to you first.
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  Speaker 1: This is the real deal lineup. It's two forty nine
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  Speaker 1: point seven versus the Optimals two eighty six point sixty six.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: So a pretty good run at it, but a fantastic lineup,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: and I think just an awesome, awesome job overall of
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: putting together some pieces that make a ton of sense,
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: building differently but still using some of these options, and
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: most surprising, no Judkins on this lineup. Obviously, again, people
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: could look at it one hundred different ways. You could
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: take Javonte or what was Javonte sixty seven?
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah he was sixty seven, Yeah, another six seven, but.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: You could you could take him down to Judkins and
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: still got more points and bring the Panthers up to
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: any of those good defenses that crush. It doesn't matter.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: You don't need to one a million without it. I'm
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: just saying just goes to show that, you know, playing
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Rice with no Judkins was still a way to get there.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: There's no Lamb, no Mahomes, no Judkins, no real chop
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: tight end. I mean, mc bride was kept in check,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: but it's just the.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Way it goes.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: No aj Brown, no DeVante Smith, just they were those
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: guys were really long. So the thing that stands out
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: to me most from this lineup and very like you said,
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: really really solid lineup. I mean obviously a one, but
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: outside of that, just a solid constructed lineup is the
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Herbert two man charger stack without either like with the
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: two least popular guys, didn't use McConkie, didn't use Quinton Johnston,
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: used Gadsden who is loaned, used Keenan Allen who was loaned.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Those guys both were monster.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: That's why he didn't need Judkins and he didn't need
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: the Philly guys because he had that skinny Herbert stack
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: or big Herbert stack without either of the main guys
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: that most people use.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: So that set him apart. You always talk about, like
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: with Herbert stacks.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: If there's I don't know in this Millie Maker, let's
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: just say twenty five thousand people in that room, Like,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: how do you separate from those twenty five thousand using
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Keenan Allen and Gaston instead of Quinton Johnston and McConkie,
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: or instead of one of those guys?
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Does that? So that's what stands out to me most.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: How about you?
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a great breakdown. One thing I
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: want to add and this actually helped me this week.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Shut up to my guy, Alex K fourteen. I forget
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: his exact name, Alex K fourteen on X or maybe
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: it's Alex K fourteen X. He's a great dude. He
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: won one hundred K and a live final seat last week.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: We talked about it over in Mastermind. They asked me,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: because I know him this, could you ask him what
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: about his lineup? It was interesting he didn't use a
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: full on stack. He kind of fit in some value pieces.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: And I said, last week, and it's funny, I called
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: my shot a little bit. I said, it's lucky week seven.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: It's I always lose for six weeks and then I
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: try and put stuff together. And I kind of had
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: a revelation last week of what I said, where I
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: don't think you should go away from correlation. I don't
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: think you should go away from covering scenarios, which I'm
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: about to break down in a second. I thought, that's
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: why I'll give Alexander Cole even more props to this lineup,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: because finding ways to separate is one thing, but also
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: covering your bases is another. But not looking maybe because
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: the pricing is still soft enough in spots early on
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: to not go for like three situations higher dollar, smaller field.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: You can do that a little bit more, and I'll
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: show that in a second too, But just of this lineup,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: clearly it's a three to one, and like you said,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: it's broken down, it's the lowest owned receiver of the
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: three with Gadson and then the run back with Taylor
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: and those guys, by the way, really help you to
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: afford that. But after that there is no real correlation
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: like O Lave mixed with Rice, mixed with Williams mixed
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: with McBride, Panthers, etc. Right, But it's also thought process
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: to it, in my opinion, because if it's not gonna
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: be the Dallas Washington shootout, let me get the running
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: back that would would stand. And that's what people tried
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: to do myself included with JCM, but didn't abandon that,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: still went with it. I'm not gonna play Mahomes, but
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not abandoning Rice at fifty six hundred dollars popping
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: off the page, and I don't even expect them to
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: get two touchdowns or anything like that. But I'm not
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: leaving him out. If I'm already not playing Judkins and
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: so on and so forth. Okay, if I'm gonna leave
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: a game alone. I'm gonna leave an outdoor game that
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: has all the chalk in it in the Cleveland Miami
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: game where it's it's the Cleveland D and Judkins, and
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Olave, who's not even close to
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the ownership of Judkins at a similar price point at
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: receiver though and in a different game. But he's got
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: some ownership, sure, but I'm gonna go to him as
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: a safer mid range play and get a piece of
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: that game. Then I'm gonna get McBride and the Panthers
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: D if I'm not playing Brehys Hall, who's picking up steam.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: So he still had the Dallas Washington game in a
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: way that could slow it down. He still had the
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Kansas City piece without having to have everything else that
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: goes with it. And then he still had the afternoon
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: he could have moved pieces around. He still had pieces
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: that he could move with McBride or whatever, anything like that.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: And then the Panthers D when not playing Breeze Hall.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if you have anything else to
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: add to that, but that's why I think so it's
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: one of the best lineups I've seen in a while.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: And definitely the best this year so far for winning
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: a million Maker.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: So yeah, two things. No Browns D or Judkins is
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: massive here. I mean Judkins obviously, as you mentioned outscore
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Javonte and Browns D outscored Panthers D by eight.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Which is I think he has that two B too, though,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: not to cuy off, but just to say, like, I'm
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: pretty sure Javonte was sixty seven hundred if you just
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: make him Judkins for six k and add seven hundred
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: to the twenty five hundred dollars Panthers, aren't you on
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the same two B two Like he could have had
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: that if he just didn't go there. I'm just saying,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: but I think he could have had that right, But
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: then he wouldn't have had a piece from that Dallas
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Washington game, and that's important because he might not have
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: felt as comfortable leaving that game out and probably be
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: a good idea.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: So that's what I kind of wanted to ask you
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: when you break this down.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure this guy played one fifty in the
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Million Maker, and you're almost breaking it down like it
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: was handbilt and I respect that, but do you look
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: at it any differently knowing it was like part of
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: a set, and he probably maybe he looked over this lineup,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: but you know what I'm saying.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I agree, and I actually doubt he hand looked over it.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I myself, I talk about it a
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: ton with my process. It's it's usually you know, like.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with one fifty it's too hard. What's that too
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: hard to look over everyone when you have won fifty?
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And he's not going in and being like, but wait,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: that didn't leave this. I'm just saying, I think that's
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the more interesting part is the flip of that. I
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: think you nailed it. And that's why it's good to
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: have two minds like ourson, just where we can shoot
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: ideas back and forth of how we think about it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I'm saying that as like if he handbuilt, he might
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: have seen that and not cared, but might have still
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: said this and that. I know a lot of people
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: that play, and it's part of just working the Leverage
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Lane show now and doing everything with it. A lot
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: more people are playing one to twenty lineups and thinking like, well,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: how the hell would I have ever got to this.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I'm saying if they were, I don't even think this
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: is crazy With Javonte and Panthers. I'm just saying I
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: could see a world where it's like uh, and again
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how much money was used
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: in this either, because the thing is down. But just
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: a note, if you went Javonte and Panthers to the
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Cleveland d and Judkins for even more chalk, it actually
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: would have done better. Not that he needed to. I'm
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: saying for someone playing a single entry, that's like, but
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: then I probably wouldn't have got to Gadson and all
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: this other stuff. You probably wouldn't have, but you might
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: have went to that with a handbuild and maybe McBride
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: and Gadson becomes like Jake Ferguson or Ertz and just
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: wherever you land and that docks you points right other
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: way from the thirty two and the twenty nine. But
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: it's all just how you see it and think through it.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: And for people playing twenty lineups or less, I actually
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: would recommend that when you build out with your optimizer,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: you are reverting back and actually reviewing your work. I
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: always used the school teacher stuff. My guy Derek is
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the teacher. He's in here. He was the one saying
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: thank god you didn't say six to seven. He's a teacher,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: you know. He gives out bad marks, I'm sure to students.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: And it's like a lot of those students will sit
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: there and get their marks and be like, why did
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: this happen? And it's oftentimes they didn't put the effort
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: in first. They only review their grade they do it,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: which is what a lot of people do. They don't
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: review their actual work before they put it in. We're
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: reviewing before it goes in, after it comes out, and
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: even further on Monday morning, like right now, breaking it
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: down to like the finest detail of not just what
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: we did, what others did as well. And you don't
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: always get that right in a classroom. You don't get
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: to see everybody else's essay or everybody else's test that
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: they did to see who did what. You just get
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the marks right. You don't get to actually dig in.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: We have the ability to put in the additional work,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: go back and see what other people did and have
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: We don't know if we're right. Maybe Alexander did look
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: at this line up and build it exactly. Who knows.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I doubt it to your point, But my point is
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: it's all what can we take away from it. We
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: could be completely wrong, but it's a good idea to
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: still check it out so well. I have sent new
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: In's the link. I do want to go over a
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: couple lineups here. I got news one up for after.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: This was my core on the site that I put up,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: and this was also I actually won a golden ship
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: it too, by the way, yesterday, even though I can't win,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I won the Golden Shipper because I have to create
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the contest for everybody. But our guy Robert Jay who
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: will be up on the site should a game site soon,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: and he finished second Chargers zero six two to one.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: That's why this says first and zero dollars. This actually
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: came tenth in the one fifty three max and it
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: had a chance. I was sitting like fourth until the
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Sutton catch at the end, and also Mims almost caught
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: a touchdown almost so many almosts. But anyway, this was
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: my exact core on the site and it was the
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: exact breakdown that Alex and I gave on Saturday. I said,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going Herbert, I'm not leaving out Taylor, and then
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I'll see what I do from there. I liked Johnston
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: back from I know it's from the injury and whatnot,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: but he'd been full practice since Thursday, so I went
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: there with it. But I had Herbert Johnston Allen with
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Warren and Taylor. I had Judkins with Cleveland. I wasn't
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: getting to the Dallas Washington or Kansas City spot in
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: this game, but I was. I liked Caleb a little
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: bit yesterday, and so when I since I wasn't on Caleb,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I went with Swift, and then I went with the
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Mims play. And this is just all how it kind
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: of shook out. I actually had Mims and denver D
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: and something else that I ended up moving around and
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: found this version of it that I liked better. But
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: this was my main lineup, using everything from Leverage Lane.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: It was my main in the one fifty three Max
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and everywhere that I had it in the Golden Ship
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: or all that stuff. You can go ahead and give
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: any thoughts to have on this one if you want
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: to add it, but this is one where I just
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: left out Dallas Washington and hoped that they spread it out,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: and instead of having Rice, I had Allen and guys
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: in that range with him.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this lineup freaking smashed, obviously, the zero dollars next
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: to it certainly throws you off because this line up
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: obviously is just you know, all most completely nutted, not
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: quite but really really close, especially in smaller field easy construction.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Here you clearly like the Chargers Colts game. I mean
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: over half of your lineup is plays from that game,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: and then two of the others are two of the
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: best plays on the slate in Judkins and Browns. D
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: You filled it in with a couple guys that were
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: lower owned and were really really good in MEM's and
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: then Swift. Swift wasn't like Lolo owned, but he wasn't
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Shocky at all. So this lineups just put together really nice.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: You can build lineups like this with every single game. Basically,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: this one was just put together really really well.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. I want to see here too. Just
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: go back to it for a second. This was the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: other thing. So if you weren't on Caleb or Rome
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: or any of those guys, Swift was actually somewhat He
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: was around ten percent, and it was uncertain of what
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: he was going to come in. I thought it could
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: be like even a little bit lower, so I thought
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: there would be some leverage. It was another sneaky game.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: It was a C minus rush defense. Again, we use
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the stuff that we say it's it's literally out there
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: everywhere you can see it, but that's exactly it. So
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: that's where I got that from. I already talked about
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: it earlier, but if you go down it was like
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Herbert Quinton Johnston. I didn't even I don't think I
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: even had the one hundred dollars and maybe that's what
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: it was. But I liked Quinton anyway, But just a note,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: it was those two guys there at a little bit
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: lower ownership. It was Warren on the other side. I
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: loved Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor's match was good. Indie matchup
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: had already been good. I'd talked about how the Brissette
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: factor of I thought again, by the way, he came
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: through pretty solid, like not everything, But if you just
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: had like him and McBride yesterday, sure it could have
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: been fine. But I had said that I thought him
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: his previous week was a bit of a product of
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: that Colts matchup, and then with Travarious Ward getting put
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to the ir after that pregame concussion or whatever, I
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: thought like that was just another spot that maybe it
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: opens it up even more. Lad almost caught a touchdown
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: at the end. It went right through him, and that
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: was important to me as well. But I'll go to
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: that in a second. But obviously that allowed me to
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: fit going back here to the Browns and Judkins. So
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: in these tighter builds like That's what I can't stress enough,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: And I want people to find this as part of
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: their process and why I think you should be a
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: member at ship at Nation and using it to your advantage.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: It's all right here, yes, it's this week. I landed
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: on the right version of it and others didn't. New
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Ones is gonna come on and in a minute and
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: be super vulnerable with his but I'm pretty confident he
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: uses these tools and has had some really good weeks
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: because of it across multiple sports. So just noting that,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I think that's important to remember when you're looking at
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it before we bring New Ones in. Matt, I'm gonna
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: just show this one off too. This was the fan
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: duel lineup I'd talked yesterday on the show. They actually
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: had some really good tournaments this week, and Hoop had
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: talked about the Juggernaut being a great one. I looked
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: at it there was the two fifty with five hundred
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: kop top. This this was in the Juggernaut, and I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: had very similar about their pricing is different over there,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: so I could get to mcconki, and that's why I
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: said that touchdown following through his hands at the end
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: of the game one Dale Robinson with no slate in
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: there and likely not to get certain in the in
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: the slot. It was an overthrown ball before the run
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: back and forth where he had actually would have been
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: on his way to the end zone. That would have
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: won it for me. And this was one hundred k
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: up top, but it was Herbert Alan McConkey stuck with
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, Judkins and the Browns. I did get a
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: piece of the Washington game in this one, and then
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I liked having the Robinson Ingram we had just seen
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: the week before. I forget who it was now, but
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: somebody had went off against the Giants at the tight
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: end position. I really thought Ingram could be a part
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: of it. Had went like Mims and Kelsey was the
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: other version that I thought of, and it would have
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: actually been the exact same. It was like one point
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: in the difference, but.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: In hindsight it's always it's always nice.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: One like the combo you're thinking about wouldn't have made
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: a difference because we've all been there. I've been there
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: plenty of times where the other combo that I would
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: have used was would have been awesome.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's always nice.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just trying to see one more thing. If
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: it's up. I hope it is. Yet it is they
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: left it up. Thank you to the support team. But
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: this this was another breakdown. I got Ham. He always
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: helps me out on FanDuel. I want to you know
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: one Hunter k twice two years ago with his slate plan.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: But anyway, it was it was all here too. If
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: you had Herbert, Alan, Mconkey and Taylor, those guys were there.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Taylor was up number one. I put in Judkins with
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the Browns, I had Robinson, I had Ingram and was
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: that it? I think that? Oh and Crosskey Merritt right
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: where did he have him? Right here? So anyway, it
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: was all right there. In Ham's FanDuel slate plan, it
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: had a million outs. If you go back to the lineup,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: not many people had a six A three in their
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: lineup at the top of that tournament. So if either
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Ingram jcm or Wandale does basically any thing more one
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Day'll caught a nice grab at the end, but he
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: was also four points from the bonus that was like
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: twenty grand that I could have picked up. But either way,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: solid day overall, forty thousand plus across both sites, so
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: pretty pretty soliday. Nice nice one to have there. Any
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: final thoughts from you before we bring our guy new
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: ones in.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: No, really solid solid day from you yesterday. Obviously you
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: are all over it really close, and it just kind
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: of shows you that even though obviously the Dallas Washington
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: game had the best paper, had the best plays on paper,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: there are really good plays throughout even on a small
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: quote unquote ten games slate, there are a lot of
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: different games and spots you can get to and make
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: positive ROI lineups. Not all of them are gonna get there, obviously,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: but certainly a really good job by you. Congratulations on
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: a monster day. The only thing I'm gonna push back
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: on everything you said is my boy Derek. No way,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: he's given.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Out bad marks. He's too much of a softy, so
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: he does not get on any bad grades.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. He's letting them watch movies
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: so he can catch his shows. I think he's to
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: be definitely the one that you wanted to have, you know,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: be set up with when you're in school, for sure.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: All right, the people want it. Look at our guy,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: bring the noise, says looking looking forward to hearing from
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: my guy new Ones. So without further ado, let's bring
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: him in. Mister Jordan new Ones. What's up, my man?
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: How are you?
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: It's nice to have you on. We appreciate you.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: What's up? Fellows?
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: He got me here? Can you hear me?
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I got you man? Yeah, loud and clear and looking
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: fresh too. I like that hoodie.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, always repping the nation. Let's see here. So
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: uh you know, as you can see, the lineup didn't
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: go as as planned.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Well we'll get there. We'll get there. Man. For first off,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: let me cut you off. I really appreciate you doing this.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Thank you for hopping on. I know it's always tricky
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: and we're we've been bringing members on and you stepped
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: up to hop on and I love and appreciate all
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: those that have stepped up so far. But I know
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: it's not easy just to jump into the mix and
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: something that we're doing all the time. So appreciate that
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: angle of it as well. But just maybe first off,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: tell the people, like, how long have you been with
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: ship a Nation? A little bit about yourself, Like, just
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: give us a little bit of the background story. We
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: got time here, and then we'll get to your lineup.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I just popped it up so we'd have it on
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: the screen. I know you're gonna share some thoughts there too.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, man, I don't even know how long. It's been,
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: probably six seven years. I got into DFS from our
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: guy Bobby Gomes. Actually, I think he was putting his
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: plays up on like Instagram or something back in the day.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: Shout out to my dude, bring the noise. We've been
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: together for I don't know ever since that started. I
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: would say I've been a ship member since you guys started.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Wherever you were going, that's where I was going. I
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: don't know if you remember this, but back at the
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: other site, my number one thing would be all caps, tamble,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: exclamation point, exclamation point, and you were always, you know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: you were my guy. So I just the way that
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: you explain things, it's it's so different than everybody else.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Everybody's looking for the picks, the plays honestly, that's what
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: I was looking for. But when I first started, because
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: it's like, okay, you know, hih no ball whatever. Nope,
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: not apparently not. When I started, I did not know
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: what the hell I was doing. I had success. I
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: think actually when I started, I'm way older now, but
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: I think I was seventeen, and I kind of got
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: away with being on DraftKings and I actually shipped a
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: couple small, small tournaments. I started playing like one dollar,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: two dollars whatever. They had seven hundred and fifty bucks here,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: one thousand bucks there or whatever, which at the time
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: at that age was like, oh shit, okay, you know,
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: I can turn this into something. And then it got
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: harder as the years went on, and I was like, okay, well,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: we're gonna we're gonna look into this a little bit.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, when I first started, I didn't even know
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: what I would hear Bobby say something about GPP and
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: tournaments and I'm like, what the hell. They seem like
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: the same thing. But okay, so you know, hop on
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Google type it in. Back then, they didn't have much
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: of anything really about dfs. It was like, oh, GPP,
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: I'm looking for an hour just to know what GPP
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: stands for. I don't know. This was probably like twenty fifteen,
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, I would say, but yeah, I've been with
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: you guys forever. I'm a member at Mastermind. I don't,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: like I said, I can't say enough. What you do
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: at Mastermind, especially is what I was looking for when
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: I first started, Like I would sit there and be like, man,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: if I could pick one of these guys' brains and
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: just get a little insight, I could definitely turn this around.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: And as you know, I've had some pretty big scores
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: throughout the last couple of years. Made it to a
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: live final I think two years ago now, the first
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: PGA one of twenty twenty four. That was nice. Yeah, man,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: the my game has just skyrocketed since it. Don't look
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: at this lineup that I'm about to break down, but
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: my game has gotten so much better since I've joined
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: you guys. It's unbelievable. Thank you for everything you do
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: for me and all the members. That's great, Yeah, I.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Really appreciate it, man, And obviously a lot of good
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: stuff there. Bobby Gomes is a legend from from you know,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: with the first big millionmaker win. I know, Matt knows
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: him quite well as well, so shot to him and
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the Fantasy. You know he goes by the Fantasy Bros.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: You've probably seen him around your leader boards plenty. But yeah,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: you talked about a lot and even if this line
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: up we have, but like I said, the key is
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: going to be more in the process. We talk about
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: that a ton. We don't know which week it's gonna be.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I literally up said it, like my first six weeks
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: always bad, Week seven and beyond usually I'm pretty good
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: and right out of the gates. Week seven a good
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: one for me, but the first six not good. So
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: it's you're not always going to win. But you said
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: it yourself, like you can't rely on luck, you have
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: to go out or knowing ball or whatever. Those are
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: nice actually additions to have. What do you think, Matt
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: like when when you know ball and I know our
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: guy Sheets always says this, which I really appreciate, is like,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: if you know ball and can apply it to playing
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: dfs and putting it together, that's that's when things become
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: a little bit better. That's when you can make some
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: moves and make some thought processes that work in your
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: favor even further. But what do you What do you think, Matt,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: what's your thoughts?
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, first, shout out to my boy bye.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: You get Bobby gomes Og in the DFS game, one
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: of my one of my boys, so nice shout out there,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I feel like there's a fine line, right.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Knowing ball is nice, but you don't want to think
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: you know more than like the projection systems. And I
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: talk about this, you know often. I've had a lot
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: of success.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: In League of Legends, DFS and E sports and stuff,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: and I don't really know too much about it, so
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I rely on my ability to build lineups and my
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: you know, lineup construction. That said, sports that I do know.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: I've also had a lot of success, but I've been
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: hurt at times by thinking I do know more than
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: the projection systems and the sims and all that stuff.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: So that was more of a problem when I first
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: started playing. Much better at it now. But yeah, I
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: think it all goes hand in hand. Like knowing ball
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: is certainly good, and I love sports.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: That's why I got into this.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Like I pride myself I'm knowing ball and watching a
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: ton of ball. You just don't want to think that
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: you know more than the projection systems, I guess is
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: the best way to put it.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's always nice too that you can build.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: You know, in DFS, it's all depending on how you
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: want to play your style, and I think that's important
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: to be able to find that out and what works
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: for you. It's no different. I always use this. Alex Blicklin,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: my guy from Leverage Lane, we just had a conversation
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: on Mastermind the other day about this where like comparing
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: golf professional golf because it's what he does, and like
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: even like players on the PGA Tour, a PGA Tour player,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: the reason they want to win and do well, Yes,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: it's the money, it's the security. All that stuff's super important,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent number one. But if you actually hear
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of them talk and you watch the interviews
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: and everything that goes with it, one of the biggest
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: things is being able to now pick their own schedule.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: They can find what works for them. That's like content colection.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: That's like, you know, it's the same just in the
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: best versions. It's same as if you win a milli
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: in DFS. It's not saying to go blow it all,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: but it's like now you can decide. Man, I really
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: think that, you know, three max is something I put
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: my time into. That's how I won this one hundred
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: grand and that's how I won this satellite ticket. I
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: then turn that satellite ticket into a million dollars. But
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: three max is my game. I'm going to go up
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: from the one fifty three max to now start playing
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: the five point fifty five three max where it's even
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: less players. It's a big fifty k score. Still, like,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I can just play that feel pretty comfortable. One min
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: cash and I get like sixty seven percent of my
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: buy in back typically and hopefully I have a good
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: week a few times a year or something like. That's
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: kind of how you should look at it. And you
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: can make a ton of money that way if you
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: do it well. And again, things need to fall in
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: your favor. But I think it's important to remember that.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: I think it's also important.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: And I just want to shout this out and didn't
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: mean to cut you off, but you've talked about this
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: to me last week after I had a really nice week,
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: took down a couple of tournaments and was talking about
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: that big million maker last week, you were like, just
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: don't forget that it only took you, you know, however
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: much that entry was last week to win that much money.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: You don't need to play for ten grand or fifteen
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: grand or whatever to win that much money. I think
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: that's really important to hear, especially after you've had some success.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: So just shout out to you for that, because that
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: has stuck with me for sure.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get that like people, it happens all
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: the time. They win one hundred grand. Like someone wins
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: one hundred grand and then they're like, oh, I'm obviously
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: gonna win one hundred grand again tonight. Let me jam
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: like right of it right back in to try and
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: win one hundred grand again. But it's like, you just
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: you got five shots of that. You just gave all
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: your money away, and that's why you got to be
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: really careful with it and you want to make sure,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: you know, you get all kinds of stuff that comes
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: out of it. It's all how you move your money
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: around if you you know it's the same bank roll.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: This past week, I literally said it on the show.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I said I'm gonna play more FanDuel. I did play
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: a bigger tournament on FanDuel. But my DraftKings buy ins
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: were down by that much. It was, it wasn't. It
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: was just a choice I made based on the feeling
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: of the week. I felt very strongly. I was already
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: taking a strong stand going against the best Mahome spot
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: we've seen in a lo long time. So all jokes
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: aside just saying it, I was already taking a good stand.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: If I could pay it off, it could be valuable.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: And I like their tournaments better. So I didn't go
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: jam an extra five grand into a slate or six
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: or into on top of everything. I just moved my
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: buy ins and shifted them. And I think everybody should
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: think about that and do that with their buy ins.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: On the season. Everyone says, oh, I got ten grand
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: bankroll to play for the season, they're seventeen weeks. Divide
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: it up. First of all, they forget about showdown and
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: extra slates that they just end up wanting to play.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Second of all, they're they're like just playing the same
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: thing every slate. Well, what about if your American Thanksgiving
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: is not all about football? I know many Americans it is,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: and most watching this it probably is. But trust me,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: there is some people out there with families and different
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: things that they have going on that they don't just
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: get to tell their family. Sorry, I'm watching football and
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: playing dfs all day, So you shouldn't just be jamming
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: in the same amount into the slate that day. If
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: you're not, if you're not available to play it like,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: that's not going to be the same. Somebody else is
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: out there working harder than you and putting the time
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: in to actually be ready for that slate, and you're
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: kind of just playing it. So new Ones. I'll go
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: back to you, man, anything else you want to add,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: If not, let us know what lineup we're working with here,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: and then maybe give us a breakdown results aside of
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: process and how you got to this and what your
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: thoughts were overall. I'm building this lineup up.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, this is a one hundred dollars single entry.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: I use all the tools that are provided by a
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: ship at the stone. Everything stack rankings a little different.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna use it as an excuse. I was
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: in the car yesterday building this stuff, not my normal
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: set up. Whatever, that doesn't matter. Just to jump right
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: into it. Yeah, I had I was on the right
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: track with these first two here Herbert, and then stack
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: them with lad He could have had a better day,
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: but oh well, ran it back with Taylor to kind of,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: you know, push the pace a little bit. The Stone
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: was loving Jonathan Taylor. I let's see here a bunch. Actually,
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: I got it up here.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Act I'll grab it for you if you want here.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: When you're looking at it, the Stone had a big
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: optimal on him, and we thought the ownership could come back.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I was just trying to look at that because your
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: lineup should have it here for that tournament. He ended
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: up moving up to thirty. What was this one hundred
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: dollars single inndry though correct? Yep, okay, yeah, go ahead.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: And then uh, Saquon Goad this guy hasn't done shit
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: all year, thinking, okay, he's gonna do something. The Stone
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: really liked him, and then listening to Leverage Lane Alex
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: kinda pushed me over the top on Saquon as well.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: Does he have a seventeen percent optimal? I mean rush
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: defense for the Vikings as a sea That just kind
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: of fit.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: And then I.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Threw Justin Jefferson in there to kind of get that correlation.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: He unfortunately didn't do anything either. That's fine, that was
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: kind of my thought. So's there just to correlate some
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: of these pieces. Here you can see on the stone
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: Saquon he's blue, all these color codes. These are important
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: for anyone who hasn't used the stone before. You should
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: start with these guys in your player pool results aside,
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: and then just kind of go from there. What else
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: do I got here? Lil Jordan? I don't even have
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: an excuse for that one. He's got a good name.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: Dude is not that great. We'll leave that to Hoopster.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: He can play him. Not not a fan of him. Mayor.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: That was a misjudgment by myself here. Obviously we had
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: bowers Is out. Myers got ruled out as well, but
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: not a big Mayor guy. If I wasn't on Rice,
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: I really shouldn't have went there. I actually should have
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: just went Herbert without knowing what happened Herbert with Gadson
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: and then Maconki just to fill that you know, onesie position,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: and I do that all the time. You know, that's
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: kind of what I do at tight end. I am
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: team no double tight end, so that you'll never see
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: that in my lineups, no matter what National tight End day.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Who gives a shit about that? But Jalen Lane, what
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: was it. Chris Moore was the cheapy three tear receiver.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: I got a question though, hold on, I want to
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: ask you a question. Why do you have a rule
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: you'll never play no two tight ends? Like why is
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: that a thing? Isn't each slight different?
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: It is?
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: I think just based off of how many years I've
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: been playing, and obviously you guys know way more than
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: I do, but it's just never works out for me, really,
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: and it's not more no double tight end. I also
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: kind of have the rule of not to pay up
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: so much at tight end either. This week it actually
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: did work out. McBride crushed, Warren did pretty well, but
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: you really didn't even need them. If you just go Gadson,
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: it don't know, thirty one hundred whatever without knowing what
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: the puzzle looks like beforehand, I mean that you could
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: have got away with that. I also think wide receivers
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: and running backs, even though every slate is different, like
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: you said, their ceilings are much higher than tight ends are,
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: so I just kind of roll with that. I actually
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: just in Saber. I've been using Saber for a long time.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: I'll just go into flex filter it to tight end
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: and then just uncheck the top left box just so
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: none of them get in there. Super easy way for
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: me to just kind of filter through the garbage. Even
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: though I probably should have done that this week. Whatever
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: not my process, I'll stick to it. I've had pretty
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: solid success. And then Brown's defense. I wasn't on Judkins,
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: so it was kind of like, okay, if I'm not
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: on him, whether it was terrible, the Dolphins defense is
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: just what is title?
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Say, Cheeks, I mean.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: F rush defense C minus pass defense. Figured that I
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: could have got away with it. Twenty five points from them, fine,
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: twenty percent chalky defense. Everybody went there. So that was
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, as you can see on the three flames
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: in my lineup. But in my head this all made sense.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: When I got home and checked everything, wasn't too happy
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: with the result, But you know, we play a daily
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: fantasy game. We have a big slate tonight showdown.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: I'm comfortable. I'm in a position where one hundred dollars
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: single entry. Yeah, I got crushed. I'll be right back
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: at it tonight. So not a bit funny.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: You couldn't afford to lose. That's the key, Like even
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: knowing that you were in a rush, knowing everything and
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: admitting that I appreciate you being vulnerable. You did not
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: sit there and say like, oh man, like you know
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: what a waste or whatever? You just it's cold. You
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: can afford to lose it. You'll be back tonight or
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: back last night and the show U whatever you're playing next, Slay,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Do you have any questions or curiosities about this lineup
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: that you want to ask first? Or do you want
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: us just to start dissecting it, like what's your call here?
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: Well? I guess just to add another little piece here too.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: Why I have two of these cheapies? In my thought
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: process here, it was kind of like, okay, everyone's going
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: to one if I load up on, you know, not
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: load up, but I have what sakuon He's up there,
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: Jefferson Taylor, those guys are all high priced. Everyone's going one,
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: you know, cheap dude. If I go too, maybe it'll
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: work out. Normally that shit doesn't work out, so probably
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: shouldn't try that again. Got a little too cute there,
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: but no, not really. I mean I could have played
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: aj Brown off of the Leverage Lane show. I remember
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: hearing you say Mahomes was obviously the quarterback. Everybody wanted
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: to get to. I think Hurts was three hundred dollars
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: less than him, and aj Brown was what fifty eight
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: hundred That could easily slid into any of these slots
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: and I could have flipped it. But no, not really.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: If you guys want to just break it down on
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: all ears.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I do have some thoughts, and then I'll let Matt
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: hop in. Like again, obviously it's a learning experience. Trying
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: to go doesn't mean I'm right. It's more of like
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: just a thought of what you can you see here?
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: And to me what stands out the most is one
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: you said I had two cheapies, but you're and I
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: know you met wide receiver, but I'm saying, when you're
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: looking at the lineup as a whole, you had three cheapies.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: That's part of the paydown tight end factor. So one
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: of the things about that is I'm not again to
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: teach the rown on how you play. In different fact,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I'm the never Mahomes guy. So for you, if it's
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: never two tight end, I don't mind that. Like I
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: get like when people see a medium projection, if it
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: sims well, I would typically be more inclined to be
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: interested because then it tells you about the whole slate,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: and it is considering all those other factors. But I
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: know a lot of optimizers will just give you two
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: tight ends from a median standpoint. But I will say
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: we talked a ton about it yesterday. I know he
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: said he didn't have a ton of time, but there
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: was a it was a big boy tight end slate.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I know Gadson ended up getting there, but also Gadson
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: would have been the cheapy that made the most sense
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: here of anybody because he actually slides it, not saying
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: you would have got there. And I know many would
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: take it as result it's oriented, but I would say
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: that's just like a thought process piece to me when
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I have a cheap tight end, I believe it's even
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: in the breakdown Nads and I did last week where
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: it was like Gadson or cheaper tight ends where like
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: those ones, you could plug in with their quarterback because
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: at least you're gonna stand to benefit if something happens.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: And again, don't forget you didn't need thirty two in
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: the end, you did, I'm saying, but imagine Gadson gets eighteen. Yesterday,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Still a pretty damn good day from a guy at
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: that price point with your quarterback. But the bigger factor
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: to me is there was a lot of good mid
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: range running backs and mid range wide receivers and once
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: you go Taylor Barkley Jefferson, you really abandon that and
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: it sort of forces you into this and you also
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: it also didn't really allow you to cover angles. To
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: my point from earlier, like if you're not playing Rice,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I get it, but like, are you doing anything else
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: you don't have to, But okay, that's fine, you mark
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: one off, But then wait, you're not really playing Washington
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Dallas because is Lane really gonna be a like a
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: piece that well, it's technically from that game. I don't
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: really see it as like a blocker to like that
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: game output not hitting the massive score. If anything, if
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: it hits the massive score, it's it's probably laying with
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: the overstack that includes him, So like that doesn't really
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: do it. And like the little Jordan Humphrey, to me,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: is only really play again the slate in factor. Sure,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: so that's where people won't agree with me, because you
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: could just put him in as a different cheapie. But
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think it would be more likely
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: that he's involved in like a back and forth with
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: a Knicks build or like Dart throws it to him.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: And now you've got something that's different than others are on.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't mean it's wrong. I'm just saying the
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: main thought process for me is the top five are
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: all really solid Cleveland and Meyer. Fine, that's where you
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: kind of can look at it to your perspective like, well,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: like I use this stuff. I got some good pieces.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: I just went with two cheapies to make it all work.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Yesterday's the slate matters and the slate dynamics were there
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: was like six or seven tight ends that were valuable
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: that were up there. And then on top top of it,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: the more balanced build across the board had the best
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: options unless you were trying to do something with like
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Wentz up top. But either way, don't don't be too
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: hard on yourself. Barkley and Jefferson, right place, wrong, guys,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: That's what it was. Obviously you saw you said it
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: on the stone. Great call out. If you look at
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: it here and we said this could be a spot
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: you called out. The hurts. Aj Brown or Smith could
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: have filled in for any Mahomes Rice lineup as a
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: way that could beat it. You could add two tush
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: bushes and a touchdown and one hundred yards to either
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: of these guys and got there, and that could have
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: end up beating it, and a way to get to Jefferson.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: So you could have spread it out a bit that way.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: But I like where you landed. Obviously. I was very
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: high on the Herbert stuff. I think you did a
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: good job finding that. I think it's more the overall breakdown.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: I'll kick it back to you and then I'll let
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Matt see if he has anything else, anything else you
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: want to just ask or add there anything else you
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: see from that perspective.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: No, not really, I mean this honestly, this isn't even
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: normally how I build, So not really, I mean, and
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: this was just I've had I don't know, two three
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: good weeks this year. One one of these weeks was
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: bound to come, So not really, I'm interested to see
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: what man has to say here.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Matt, any thoughts of you on this one?
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a few thoughts actually, So I thought
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: your point about there being a lot of good mid
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: range plays and he took himself out of those plays
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: by spending up all over is really Apropos.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest takeaway.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: But then two other ones I understand, especially after seeing
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: what happened, saying and wanting to play gadst and over Meyer,
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: and I think he fits better because of the Herbert stack.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: But I don't think Meyer was a bad play. He
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: just didn't do anything. The Raiders offense was awful, which
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: you know you could have projected. But still like his
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: role last week was so good that I don't think
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: he was a bad play just because he didn't do.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Anything for me. The overall, the overall.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Takeaway I I take from this lineup, though, is I
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: think you got away from too much of the chalk
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: and too many of the good plays Judkins, Lamb. Obviously
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: some of them, like Bill, didn't work out, but there's
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: no Lamb, there's no Judkins, there's no Rice. So all
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: three of those guys, it's not like and we looked
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: at the Milli Winner, you didn't need any one of
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: those guys. But those guys were all really good plays individually,
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: so I don't think you have to play all of them.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: But there's a reason they projected that well. Now, I
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: think a lot of this is hindsight, is twenty twenty,
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: and looking at this lineup not perform, it's easy to
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: pick holes in it, but there are certainly if this
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: slate plays out one hundred times, there are times where
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: this lineup does really well. So that's just the breaks
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: in dfs. You can't beat yourself up too much over
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: one lineup, and I think your approach of not losing
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: what you can't afford to lose is clearly the best
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: way to do it.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will add, I mean, just go back to
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: as you nailed it, because the meer thing is solid
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: and it's not like to beat up on Jordan. He
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: signed up right, he's happy to be here and we
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: appreciate him doing this. It's more like to get it
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: as a learning perspective, and that's what the review is
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: all about. Is the biggest thing for me is this
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: top three like I'm all about. I know you've heard
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: us talk about this a ton of like flipping the
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: build and doing something differently. But the problem is if
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: you're going like two payoff running backs, it's then getting
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: to Jefferson and all the like. It's that's the difference.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Like for example, and I don't want to be results
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: oriented as much as like just the obvious ones. If
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: you're if you are keeping Taylor, maybe it's to take
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Barkley to Judkins and that's like what seventeen hundred dollars
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: that can almost get you from Humphrey or laying up
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: to something else like a Rice or something. And I
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: know you don't want all the chalk. I'm just saying,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: like it's we're not gonna pinpoint to the Gadson play.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Like you said Meyer was fine, you could add like
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: a Meyer Rice Mini, kept Jefferson or made him aj
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Brown or something, and then flip Barkley if you wanted
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: to keep the Herbert Taylor mconkey, and then you still
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: would have had the defense with your running back. You still,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: by the way, like Judkins was what thirty five percent
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: in this or something forty thirty nine percent. It's not
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: like it was that much. It's twenty five or thirty
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: nine is definitely a difference, But I'm just saying you
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: could have done a little bit that way. I think
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: the biggest factor and takeaway for me is when I'm
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: looking at Okay, I'm gonna go to the double pay
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: up running back build, I'm probably using the mid tier
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: elsewhere if that's if that makes sense, like Jefferson could
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: become Allen Lane or Addison could become Rice. I'm not
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: gonna I don't even want to put the gats In
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: one into this because that's like two results oriented. I'm
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: saying more.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Of im at Addison instead of Jefferson.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that or something along those lines, But I
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: just think like the more likely was if your lane
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: is gonna be pay up running backs Taylor Barkley, then
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I might not try and put the I might try
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: and get Jefferson in something that's gonna be like with
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Wentz or as a runback to a Hurtz, then you
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: put instead of Hurts, you put in Judkins because you're
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: already gonna be different enough. And instead of Maconkey hump
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: free lane, you come up with like a more Davante
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: and aj Brown and then you're able to fit something
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: like that, and then you're still not on Rice, You're
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: still not on all the chalk, but you're different enough
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: with that type of stack. So just looking at it,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: and when you reflect back on a single entry, you
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: do have time to see this type of stuff, just
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: noticing that it's you know, three cheapies, even though one
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: of them is very clearly in a good spot. The
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: two cheapis are you sacrificing too much?
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: You don't know.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: But what you do know is the slate dynamics going in.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: There was definitely big boy tight ends that made sense.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: There was definitely mid range chalk that was good. That
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: you could have swapped one more of these spots to
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: be able to make it a little bit better in
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: your favor, even outside of the results oriented stuff. No Gadson,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: none of this shit like that where it's like, obviously
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: that'd be nice, but you get what I'm saying, hopefully
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: that should make some sense.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, and I do. I have kind of figured
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: out that this is a little leak in my game.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: Over the last seven weeks or so, just not pairing
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: the tight end with my quarterback has really bit me
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: in the butt a couple.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Of times here.
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: I know, I what was it, a couple of weeks ago,
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: I almost took down the live final seat and if
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: I would have just done a little bit different, you know,
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: just add the tight end there or play the chalk defense.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: You know, you can say that all now, but just
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: putting the onesie you know, position player in there with
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: your quarterback. If you don't know kind of where else
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: to go, maybe you luckbox into you know, this guy
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: gets a touchdown and it's double points basically for you.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: So I think that's one thing that I've found in
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: my game that I kind of got to correlate a
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: little bit better. And this build too, it's more of
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: a GPP build more than a single entry, I would say,
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: so that that two sticks out to me pretty pretty good.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm good with it, man, I mean, it
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: is what it is. I mean, look at you.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Worse line up yesterday. Wait, yeah, definitely and way way worse.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: I told Tambo, like, whether this won or lost, this
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: was the single entry I was gonna put up on
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: the show. I don't care. I had a bunch that
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: cash too, and I'm not gonna Oh yeah, this was
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: the best one I played. So I'm gonna send that
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: to you. It happens. You're gambling. Everybody should know more
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: often than not you are going to lose one.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Fund, especially when you're playing tournaments.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, So I don't know, you take it on
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: the chin, move on to the next day.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: It is what it is, Yeah, coach to have asked
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: about this, and in high stakes single I think just
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: again take out the high stakes too. This is where
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: people just want to wonder. Yes, even you know in
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: the high stakes you can get away with a little
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: bit more as well. But just to note it, I
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: would say, because people are like, oh, I could have
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: beat that lineup, but then nobody's putting up that money.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: So it's like you can say about anything like it.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: You know, if you're gonna play it, then you're gonna
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: be playing at the highest level. If you're gonna oh,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I could beat the pros at the high stakes poker table, well,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: then get one hundred grand up in there and see
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: how it goes for you. Like it's it's not likely
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: to be that. It's you had a line up with
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: a result that would have won this. Yes, aces that
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: held up with kings with that exact same board if
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: it was at a high stakes table or a low
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: stakes would have won. But if you got it all
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: in at that table, maybe it doesn't hold up. It's
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: not always the same. You don't know how it's gonna
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: work out. But just to go to Coach's question here,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: you don't have to get us crazy like this was
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: a smaller It's more about the field size. This was
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: a two hundred person field that I was in. I
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: think it had one hundred and thirty that filled it up.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: So it's like, because it's the ship at Games one
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: and this won that this was but just to know
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: this lineup came tenth in the one fifty three max.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: That is a three max entry with thirty seven thirty
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: three or something I think a three thy seven hundred
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: and thirty three people. And if you see it, Swift
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: seven percent, Allen seven percent, Mims got to fourteen and
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: that by the way, but they must be watching leverage
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: lane with my guy Blickel there, because that's pretty crazy.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: He was much lower elsewhere. But like Warren ten, this
• 1:00:01
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  Speaker 1: jud Kill sixty percent agreed. He was a great play.
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  Speaker 3: No, I was just gonna say you made the point
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  Speaker 2: People's heads too much. It's not how you play.
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  Speaker 3: It's not who you play, it's how you play them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and kit, I know we got you in. I
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• 1:01:28
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• 1:01:39
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• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: is when a guy is almost thirty percent to be
• 1:01:44
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• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:49
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• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: an argument to be made for fading it because now
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: he's way overhelmed technically to how often he shows up optimal.
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