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Shocking revelations in 3-year-old Mariah Woods’ murder case · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace on Sirius XM Triumph Channel one thirty two.
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Speaker 1: A little girl goes missing and a desperate search ensues
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Speaker 1: to find her. After days of searching, her body is
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Speaker 1: found in a creek miles away from her home. How
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Speaker 1: did that happen? Right now, we have obtained the autopsy
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Speaker 1: report in relation to the little girl, Mariah Woods. What
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Speaker 1: does it reveal? Also inside information regarding a potential prosecution.
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Speaker 1: It's all happening right now, Imancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. Let's go straight out
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Speaker 1: to Jacksonville Daily News reporter Mike McHugh. Let's start at
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Speaker 1: the beginning when Mariah goes missing. She lived in a
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Speaker 1: very small dwelling with her mother, the mother's boyfriend, and
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Speaker 1: her brothers. The brothers are a little bit older than her.
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Speaker 1: Remind our listeners, Mike about how Mariah goes missing. Well,
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Speaker 1: Mariah goes missing by a phone call from the mail
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Speaker 1: occupant of the house, Earl Kimry, around six thirty am
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Speaker 1: on November twenty seventh, stating that the three year old
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Speaker 1: Mariah Woods is missing from their dwelling, and that begins
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Speaker 1: a quick mobilization of law enforcement as well as military
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Speaker 1: personnel from nearby Camp Lejune. Boy, it really did, Mike Mhugh.
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Speaker 1: Before you go any further, we've got that nine one
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Speaker 1: one call, which I always love to play for juries,
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Speaker 1: because you know, a jury can hear what the lawyers say,
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Speaker 1: the defense, the prosecutor, the judge, the witnesses. But when
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Speaker 1: you play a nine one one call, it transports everybody
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Speaker 1: back to the moment, the beginning of the timeline and
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Speaker 1: the disappearance a little Mariah. Listen, I was okay that
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Speaker 1: one one was he haders of emergency? Yes, Sam, I'm
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Speaker 1: at twelve Ducie Gavin Rose, Lot seven, Sir twenty four
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Speaker 1: five Lot seven, Duscie Gavin Rose, tell me exact for
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Speaker 1: what happened. Look everywhere at our house, in having our yard,
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Speaker 1: and our little girl or a little girl, she se, Okay,
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Speaker 1: how is she? She's three years old? Okay, so let
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Speaker 1: me get some information from you. Okay, it's mal all right.
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Speaker 1: So lads, the last time you've seen her, who wouldn't
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Speaker 1: been blocks like everyone ever wait to bed? Three cops?
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Speaker 1: And what time is that fire? Maybe equal thirty? All right?
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Speaker 1: Just get this informations test though. And you looked in
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Speaker 1: the bedroom, under the bed, and everywestire and not able
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Speaker 1: to room squils. It's under every everywhere, looked out three
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Speaker 1: three cops. You're in the yard. It's all I order
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Speaker 1: to do is to go out about it all. But
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Speaker 1: nobody not in the middle morning by herself. Yes, she
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Speaker 1: has a physical medical I'm methic conditioning you be Alia,
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Speaker 1: she has must she has muscal adstricy. She's politic otherwise
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Speaker 1: she's okay, let's take a break right there, because it
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Speaker 1: is striking me right off the bat with me, Doctor
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Speaker 1: Michelle Dupree, a renowned pathologist and medical examiner. Joseph Scott Morgan,
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Speaker 1: forensics expert, author of Blood Beneath My Feet and professor forensics,
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Speaker 1: said Jacksonville State University, veteran New York psychologist Karen Stark
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Speaker 1: and juvenile judge founder of childcrimewatch dot com Ashley Wilcock,
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Speaker 1: along with Jacksonville Daily Knees reporter Mike mhugh, Ashley, he's
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Speaker 1: so out of breassy knowing what I know now and
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Speaker 1: now listening to his nine on one call with twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty hindsight. Yeah, I know why he's all out of
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Speaker 1: breath because he just hit her by at the bottom
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Speaker 1: of a creek. Come on, Ashley, really, all the breathing.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the jury is going to roll their eyes
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Speaker 1: when they hear this. Yeah, I completely agree with you.
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Speaker 1: And like you said, the benefit of a prosecution playing
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Speaker 1: a nine one one tape like that is it gets
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Speaker 1: not only the facts out, but the emotion. It's going
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Speaker 1: to draw that jury in to say you piece of
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Speaker 1: you know what, what in the heck are you doing?
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Speaker 1: You just don't want to get caught. I mean the breathing,
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a fake hyperventilation. But Mike mckugh,
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Speaker 1: we've all listened to is nine one one call. The
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Speaker 1: big news now is we've got our mits on the
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Speaker 1: autopsy report, as well as your inside information into a
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Speaker 1: potential prosecution. Lets start with the autopsy report. Mike mc hugh,
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Daily Knews reporter. We've been waiting for this and
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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of questions about this autopsy report.
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Speaker 1: Mike mhugh. What is the cause of death? Well, the
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Speaker 1: cause of death on autopsy report was listed as a
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Speaker 1: chloroform toxicity, and we had heard that before from official sources.
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Speaker 1: But was what was so striking and probably so heinous
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Speaker 1: in the report itself was the way in which the
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Speaker 1: body was disposed Mariah Woods. She weighed twenty eight pounds.
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Speaker 1: She was three years old. The body described in the
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Speaker 1: autopsy was wrapped in three white plastic trash bags tied
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Speaker 1: around her neck. The body was then placed inside an
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Speaker 1: empty couch cushion and then taken down to a watery
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Speaker 1: area twenty one miles from their house. It's a tributary
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Speaker 1: to the northeast the Cape Fear River, and there were
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Speaker 1: cement pieces of cement placed inside the couch cushion to
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Speaker 1: keep to keep the objects submerged in the water and
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Speaker 1: on the bottom. Okay, we are taking a hard look
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Speaker 1: at the living boyfriend who was quote day eating the
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Speaker 1: three year old taught mom Christie Woods, And I'm just
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Speaker 1: gonna put this out there. How did she not know
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Speaker 1: that her three year old child was dead from chloroform
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Speaker 1: toxicity which I'm going to get to our experts on
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Speaker 1: in just a sec. How do you not know where
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Speaker 1: your child is and that they're dead and that they're
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Speaker 1: being stuffed and a couch cushion cover was cement blocks. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's the million dollars question, Nancy. And to describe to
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Speaker 1: the dwelling in which they lived, they're separated from their
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Speaker 1: neighbors by approximately twenty or thirty feet. There's no vegetation
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Speaker 1: around the house. I mean, they're pretty wide open, but
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Speaker 1: that three bedrooms, living area in a kitchen, it doesn't
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Speaker 1: take long to you know, go through that that dwelling
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Speaker 1: and looking for somebody and for that matter, hearing something
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Speaker 1: that occurs on the other side of the house is
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Speaker 1: probably pretty easy to listen to. So absolutely, Mike Mhugh. Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: And you know, I've argued to a lot of juries
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Speaker 1: before and I think that if I were to try
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Speaker 1: this case, I would get a dummy. And I don't
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Speaker 1: mean a dummy that I can pick up and throw
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Speaker 1: up in the air like most courtroom dummies are. I
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Speaker 1: mean a dummy that weighs the amount that Mariah Wade,
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Speaker 1: which is woefully underweight I think she is anyway, And
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Speaker 1: have a person demonstrate in front of the jury what
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Speaker 1: you would have to do to stuff a body deadweight
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Speaker 1: twenty eight pounds or more into a sofa cushion, then
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Speaker 1: weight down the cement blocks, cement chunks in there, and
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Speaker 1: then bind it in some way to have the child
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Speaker 1: double wrap in trash bags like she's trash. Then get
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Speaker 1: it into a vehicle, and then get it out of
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Speaker 1: the vehicle and put it in a creek. Because what
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Speaker 1: that says to me is state of mind, state of mind,
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Speaker 1: m motors operandi, method of operation. What mind does it
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Speaker 1: take to take a child's body and perform what I
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Speaker 1: just laid out for you. What cold blood ran through
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Speaker 1: the killer's veins as he did this to a three
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Speaker 1: year old little girl? Is there anything more precious than
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Speaker 1: a three year old little baby a child? I can't
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Speaker 1: think of anything, but what mind did that? What person
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Speaker 1: did that? Because to me, that shows course of conduct.
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Speaker 1: To doctor Michelle Dupree, pathologist, medical examiner, exactly is chloroform toxicity?
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Speaker 1: And I gotta speculate why did he want this child hidden?
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Speaker 1: What was their signs of sex abuse as had been
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Speaker 1: alleged in formal documents? What did he want hidden so badly?
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Speaker 1: What is the toxicity? Doctor Dupris? Chloroform toxicity is basically
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Speaker 1: dying from chloroform in this case, because it's an inhalent,
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Speaker 1: it's a solvent. The child must inhale enough chloroform in
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Speaker 1: order to pass out, and then eventually they will die
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Speaker 1: from that. And that is what it is. And you
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Speaker 1: can tell that how, doctor Michelle Dupris, How can you
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Speaker 1: look at a dead body that's been submerged in water
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Speaker 1: or at a creek bed for this period of time?
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Speaker 1: How can you tell chloroform toxicity? Well, Nancy, we do
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Speaker 1: that by actually examining the body. When we do the autopsy,
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Speaker 1: we look at the organs in the body, particularly the lungs,
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Speaker 1: and we can tell from that. We can also tell
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Speaker 1: by doing toxicology reports on lungs and fluids in the body.
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Speaker 1: But I mean, you look at the lungs. If I
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Speaker 1: were to look at lungs right now, what could I
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Speaker 1: see with the naked eye. That would tell me, oh,
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Speaker 1: this is a chloroform toxicity. We would get the chloroform
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Speaker 1: toxicity from the blood, but we would look at the
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Speaker 1: lungs because she was submerged in water. We would need
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Speaker 1: to rule out drowning as a particular kind of cause
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Speaker 1: of death. So we look at the lungs. They were
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Speaker 1: in relatively good shape considering everything, and the toxicity comes
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Speaker 1: from the blood sample and the toxicology results from that. Okay,
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Speaker 1: if you can boil this down, this is forensics for dummies.
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Speaker 1: For me, let me ask you something. You inhale chloroform
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Speaker 1: to the point it's poisonous to your body, like breathing
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Speaker 1: in carbon dioxide, Yes, and you die. How does what
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Speaker 1: you breathe in show up in your blood? Because as
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Speaker 1: we breathe in, the blood circulates through our body, circulates
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Speaker 1: through the lungs, and those metabolite and things that are
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Speaker 1: in the chloroform will come out in that much as
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Speaker 1: if you inhale carbon dioxide or any other kind of inhalent.
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Speaker 1: What about nicotine like cigarettes? Same thing? Ah, Okay, So
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Speaker 1: you can look at somebody's blood and tell if they're
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Speaker 1: a smoker or if they're smoked pod or if they
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Speaker 1: inhale carbon monoxide or whatever the case may be. Right, Well,
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Speaker 1: we look at all kinds of things. We do look
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Speaker 1: at the blood, but in cigarettes we can tell by
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Speaker 1: looking at the lungs because deposits are left in the
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Speaker 1: lungs from the nicotine. Okay, Joe Scott Morgan. What else
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Speaker 1: can we learn from the circumstances surrounding her death? Because
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Speaker 1: you know a medical examer or a death investigator, you're
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Speaker 1: the death investigator. Death investigators don't just look at the
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Speaker 1: forensics from the body itself. They look at surrounding circumstances,
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Speaker 1: and those circumstances often play into a coroner's decision as
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Speaker 1: to manner of death. Right, So what are we looking at?
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Speaker 1: The one thing that we haven't touched on or that
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Speaker 1: I haven't heard the police touch on at this point,
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Speaker 1: And I don't know that we necessarily will is? Did
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Speaker 1: he have the components within his home in order to
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Speaker 1: make chloroform? I think that that's going to be key here.
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Speaker 1: And please, if taught mom, Casey Anthony could allegedly make it,
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Speaker 1: who couldn't? Come on? Please? What do you need to
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Speaker 1: make lauriform? Well, you're going to have to have acetone,
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Speaker 1: which if the you know the focus at the shoe
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Speaker 1: cleaners in nail polish, yeah, jo nail polish, yeah, and
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Speaker 1: it it can it's nail polish remover actually, and acetone
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Speaker 1: is used as a paint remover. And then uh, okay,
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Speaker 1: stop stop stop, you're bringing back one of my first
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Speaker 1: memories when my grandmother Lucy Minerva uh was help raising us.
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Speaker 1: One of my not my very first a first memory
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Speaker 1: was my sister and I would always go to her
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Speaker 1: house at night to watch Miss America or Miss Usa
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Speaker 1: or whatever the miss whatever was going to be and
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Speaker 1: paint Mama, my grandmother Lucy's fingernails. And I remember the
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Speaker 1: first time I was the old fingernail polish remover, I
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Speaker 1: thought it was the worst thing I had ever smelled. Translation,
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Speaker 1: can you imagine soaking a rag? Funny how that little
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Speaker 1: childhood memory is turning into part of a murder investigation.
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Speaker 1: Soaking a rag with nail polish and holding it over
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Speaker 1: this child's nose? Would that do the trick? Or what
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Speaker 1: else do you need for chloroform? Well, you would also
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Speaker 1: need to have bleach as well in order to facilitate this.
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Speaker 1: So they're very simply acquired items that can facilitate this.
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Speaker 1: And wait a minute, that's all I need fingernail polish
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Speaker 1: and bleach and I have chloroform. Well, yeah, you'd have
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Speaker 1: to mix it correctly, but yeah, that's essentially the base
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Speaker 1: elements here. You know, and think about chloroform, Nancy, the
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Speaker 1: history of it, and we talk about you. Chloroform was
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Speaker 1: initially used as an anesthetic to take people out, you know,
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Speaker 1: to knock people out for surgery. But even in the
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Speaker 1: primitive way in which that was done way back then,
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Speaker 1: when they would administer chloroform, the physicians back then could
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Speaker 1: measure out how it was done. We're talking about on
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Speaker 1: a three year old girl in some little tiny house
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Speaker 1: and he's pointing onto a rag. You know, you and
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Speaker 1: I can take in certain substances and they're not going
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Speaker 1: to impact our body as much as they will the
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Speaker 1: body of a three year old le angel Like this, guys,
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Speaker 1: I hope that doctor Michelle Dupree and Joe Scott Morgan
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Speaker 1: and aren't going deathcome for with the cause of death here.
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Speaker 1: But I mean, this is what a jury is going
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Speaker 1: to be talking about. This is what's going to be
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Speaker 1: presented to a jury. What we're talking about right now,
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Speaker 1: because I have in my hands right now the autopsy
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Speaker 1: report for three year old Mariah Woods, and I am
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Speaker 1: beside myself, Mike Mhugh jacksonall Daily Knees reporter. I've noticed
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Speaker 1: I'm queuing aing with myself here because I've noticed there
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Speaker 1: is no histologic evidence of anal or vaginal trauma, which
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Speaker 1: says to me that she was not molested before her death. No,
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Speaker 1: if I could, Nancy, could I circle back to what
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Speaker 1: mister Morgan was just explaining just there. Oh, please do please.
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Speaker 1: As he was talking, I was looking at some court documents. Actually,
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Speaker 1: it's the search the search warrants that were issued on
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Speaker 1: December sixth of the home. And I'm looking at some
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Speaker 1: of the itemized stuff that was taken from the home.
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Speaker 1: And I'm just reading here four bleach bottles, a syringe,
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Speaker 1: nail polish remover, and a white pipe with nozzle on it.
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Speaker 1: But those are among the thirty six items that were
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Speaker 1: taken from the home. Again, four bleach bottles, a syringe,
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Speaker 1: and nail polish remover. Interesting. Okay, hold the horses. Hole
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Speaker 1: the horses, Mike Mhugh. You know what I love, Mike,
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Speaker 1: I love court documents. I do too, and I think
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Speaker 1: that's why I used to. I loved writing appeals, believe
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Speaker 1: it or not, before I was a trial lawyer, and
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Speaker 1: I would my elected DA mister Slaton would occasionally rotate
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Speaker 1: me back through, or I would handle all my own appeals.
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Speaker 1: I love reading court documents. I love reading search warrant returns.
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Speaker 1: I love reading the search warrant which tells me what
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Speaker 1: they're looking for, and then the return is what they
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Speaker 1: bring back. They have to list it, and you can
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Speaker 1: really learn a lot if you will sit down and
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Speaker 1: take the time to comb through it, because you've just
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Speaker 1: given me an arsenal of ammunition. Did you hear that,
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Speaker 1: Ashley Willcott? They got nail polish remover, syringes and what
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Speaker 1: was the other thing, Mike mckugh thee oh, the thing
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Speaker 1: was four bleach bottles. They don't describe the the size
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Speaker 1: of it. It's four bleach bottles, syringe, nail polish remover
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Speaker 1: and away type with nozzle on it. This is they're
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Speaker 1: just listed it there. They're in no particular order. They're
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Speaker 1: an Alpha order America, just randomly just placed in the
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Speaker 1: search warner. A white pipe with a nozzle on it
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Speaker 1: that sounds like that um PC white pipe. Okay, Ashley Wilcot,
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Speaker 1: trial lawyer, juvenile judge, childcrimewatch dot com founder way in.
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Speaker 1: So here's the thing, Nancy. Not only does that show
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Speaker 1: that he had all the ingredients to make the chloroform
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Speaker 1: that killed this child, it also for the prosecution specifically
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Speaker 1: proves what premeditation. This was premeditated, This was not an accidental. Oh,
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Speaker 1: he went out bought these items and like Joe Scott
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Speaker 1: already said, he would have to figure out via Google
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Speaker 1: or online. Hey, how do I properly mix these? Do
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Speaker 1: that and then kill this child? Hey guys, as we're
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Speaker 1: talking to Ashley Wilcot about this, we're gonna weigh back
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Speaker 1: in with doctor Karen Start out of Manhattan. But remember
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Speaker 1: this is a three year old little girl that only
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Speaker 1: weighed about twenty eight pounds. Remember when her body was found,
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Speaker 1: she was not wearing her special she's medical es that
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Speaker 1: were designed to allow her to correctly walk. Remember, she
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Speaker 1: had muscular dystrophe. What could be more helpless than this
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Speaker 1: little girl who should have been safe in her own
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Speaker 1: home with mommy, suffering from muscular dystrophe. That tells me
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Speaker 1: that she was in the home when she was killed
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Speaker 1: or taken. She didn't have on her little shoes to
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Speaker 1: go outside. And with this knowledge, I want you to
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Speaker 1: listen again to the living boyfriend nine one one, and
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Speaker 1: she might go at all a neighbors are anywhere you
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Speaker 1: know we're going, We have militiary long, we don't have
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Speaker 1: any any neighbors that are friendly. Okay, has she been
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Speaker 1: missing before? Sir? Yeah? The loom? Okay, did you see
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Speaker 1: any personal I was taking, like a blanket or teddy
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Speaker 1: bear that she might have? He said, necessarily, Well, her
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Speaker 1: Ye them? Okay, as you see the personal iles taken
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Speaker 1: on this blanket or teddy bears, she might have he
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Speaker 1: said this, He said, no, nothing. She said, well her
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Speaker 1: first cha the rejamas that you've been or running into
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Speaker 1: the floor and then he was on the floor. He
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Speaker 1: said jamas for her, so your fade him out? Sir,
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Speaker 1: He mean hello, can you hear now yet? That now
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Speaker 1: what we're you saying? She said, with the jamas she
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Speaker 1: put her opinion or laying beside her bed. Okay, so
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Speaker 1: she's not they're picking footy bajamas. I can't recall. It's
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Speaker 1: like I wish she waited reading because I didn't turn
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Speaker 1: interesting guys. In the last hours, we've obtained the official
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Speaker 1: autoxicy report for three year old Mariah Woods. We joined
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Speaker 1: in the searts trying to find Mariah, but she goes
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Speaker 1: missing out of a very small family home. I can
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Speaker 1: relate to that. I showed my children the last time
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Speaker 1: we were making where I grew up, and they went, well,
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Speaker 1: where's the house. I'm like, that is the house that
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Speaker 1: and they just looked, and of course they're so sweet
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Speaker 1: and polite. They didn't dream of saying, Mommy, it looks
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Speaker 1: like a shed, but yes. So it's my point is
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Speaker 1: it's hard for a murder to occur. And stuffing this
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Speaker 1: child's body into trash bags, double bagged and stuffed into
23:29
Speaker 1: a sofa cushion full of cement chunks to weight it down,
23:33
Speaker 1: and getting that into a creek, How'd that happen? With
23:36
Speaker 1: mommy not knowing a thing? The autopsy report right in
23:40
Speaker 1: front of me, as we learn information from inside the
23:45
Speaker 1: investigation about a potential prosecution, we were just hearing and
23:50
Speaker 1: it was just so ironic to me. Karen start joining me.
23:54
Speaker 1: Doctor Michelde, Pretty, Joseph Scott Morgan, Ashley Wilcot, and Mike
23:58
Speaker 1: mceugh from Jacksonville really needs Karen the nine one one
24:03
Speaker 1: operator who seems it just incredibly and oddly calm Okay
24:09
Speaker 1: asked if she was a favorite item with missing, such
24:13
Speaker 1: as a blanket or a teddy bear, and you can
24:16
Speaker 1: hear a long pause. It's almost like, darn, I didn't
24:19
Speaker 1: think of that. I can't think of, you know, hiding
24:24
Speaker 1: your body with her favorite teddy you know, he waits,
24:26
Speaker 1: there's a long pause as he tries to figure that
24:30
Speaker 1: one out. Karen. Well, he's clearly lying about everything that
24:37
Speaker 1: he's saying, Nancy, and that long pause it did it.
24:40
Speaker 1: It just caught him off guard because we're talking about
24:44
Speaker 1: something so tender and sweet and makes this little girl
24:47
Speaker 1: kind of life her teddy bear, and this guy can't
24:51
Speaker 1: begin to think about what happened to the teddy bear?
24:54
Speaker 1: Should he have hid the teddy bear? I mean a
24:56
Speaker 1: very basic question like that, And if you look at
24:59
Speaker 1: the TAPSI reported also talks about the fact that she
25:02
Speaker 1: was found with abrasions and you know, seems to have
25:08
Speaker 1: been harmed, something wrong with her skull, and it makes
25:12
Speaker 1: you think that, I mean, she was hurt, so where
25:17
Speaker 1: was the mother while all of this was going on?
25:20
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm following right up on that. You're
25:23
Speaker 1: now on the second page. Karen start you leaped ahead
25:25
Speaker 1: of me in the autopsy report, but you're absolutely right.
25:29
Speaker 1: To medical examiner doctor Michelle Dupree, we see a normally
25:34
Speaker 1: developed central nervous system for her age. But I can
25:38
Speaker 1: tell you where the defense is going to go with this.
25:40
Speaker 1: They're going to go with early acute pneumonia. She had
25:43
Speaker 1: early acute pneumonia. But okay, that doesn't explain when your
25:48
Speaker 1: child has pneumonia, you don't stuff it in trash bags
25:52
Speaker 1: and put it in a sofa cushion at the bottom
25:54
Speaker 1: of a creek. Also, early acute pneumonia does not explain
26:00
Speaker 1: cerebral swelling with hypoxic ishmiic changes consistent with global hypoxia
26:11
Speaker 1: is shemia prior to death. I guess that's meaning that
26:15
Speaker 1: when you see cerebral swelling, I always think of a
26:19
Speaker 1: blow to the head, But here is the swelling of
26:22
Speaker 1: the brain because of the chloroform poisoning. That's right, Nancy,
26:28
Speaker 1: It's because the hypoxic injury causes the symmetrical swelling of
26:33
Speaker 1: the brain. An injury would probably cause an asymmetrical and
26:36
Speaker 1: we don't see any acute injuries actually on the skull
26:40
Speaker 1: or the head. There are some subgalial hemorrhages, which does
26:43
Speaker 1: indicate a bit of trauma. And there are the bruises
26:46
Speaker 1: in the contusions that were on the child's face, and
26:48
Speaker 1: those have to come pre mortem because once you're dead
26:54
Speaker 1: and you get hit, you don't bruise because the blood's
26:58
Speaker 1: not running through your body anymore. There's no there are
27:00
Speaker 1: no blood cells to um hurt, which causes a bruise.
27:06
Speaker 1: It's your your blood cells are smashed and they you
27:09
Speaker 1: see a bruising under the skin. But if your blood's
27:11
Speaker 1: not pumping, that's why you know. You shoot a dead body,
27:14
Speaker 1: it doesn't bleed. There's not any blood pumping through the body,
27:18
Speaker 1: nor does it bruise. Now, I know that's just a
27:21
Speaker 1: dummy down explanation, but is that true, doctor Michelle Dupree.
27:25
Speaker 1: You can't bruise somebody once they're dead. Yes, fancy, you're
27:28
Speaker 1: exactly right, um. And also that doesn't explain the chloroform
27:32
Speaker 1: in the child's blood. String there's a cute epidural hematomas
27:37
Speaker 1: heumotimus are bruises, epidural d'idal epideral is actually the covering
27:44
Speaker 1: over the brain, So there's a there's a thin covering
27:47
Speaker 1: over the brain, and so that's what out hematoma is.
27:49
Speaker 1: Then right, ventricle, cervical, spinal cord, acute bruising. What does
27:57
Speaker 1: that mean, doctor Michelle? And in this case they're actually
28:01
Speaker 1: looking at this and the physician was not able to
28:03
Speaker 1: tell that this was post mortem or artifact or actually
28:07
Speaker 1: before death, so this could have been caused after death.
28:11
Speaker 1: Now let me ask you, Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics,
28:15
Speaker 1: jacksonvill State University, what more in the autopsy report of
28:20
Speaker 1: three year old Mariah Woods leaps out at you. I
28:24
Speaker 1: think that there is they're saying. The physician is saying
28:28
Speaker 1: that there is an absence of any kind of vaginal
28:33
Speaker 1: trauma on her and also anal trauma. And you know
28:41
Speaker 1: this we were talking about potential, you know, sexual abuse.
28:45
Speaker 1: What's the driver behind all of this? And so I
28:50
Speaker 1: don't I don't really know if anything is there relative
28:55
Speaker 1: to that. So that's going to be an investigative issue
28:57
Speaker 1: where they're going to have to try to get that
28:59
Speaker 1: information out of him. What about this just got Morgan.
29:03
Speaker 1: Let's thank here a minute. Thank thank he think he
29:06
Speaker 1: hold on thank people think. Ashley Wilcotton, remember when you
29:12
Speaker 1: and I comed through the Defacts Department file Family and
29:16
Speaker 1: Children's Services reports where the boys reportedly told their bio
29:22
Speaker 1: dad that they had observed the living boyfriend, Earl Kimry,
29:28
Speaker 1: forcing the little girl to have oral sex. As I recall,
29:32
Speaker 1: I don't have the document in front of me, but
29:34
Speaker 1: that's what I remember. And her face is has a
29:40
Speaker 1: bruises and abrasions on it, right think about it? Yeah, so, Nancy,
29:45
Speaker 1: that would explain why they didn't find any injuries to
29:48
Speaker 1: the vaginal area if she's giving him oral sex and
29:51
Speaker 1: there are bruises and marks and injuries all over the face.
29:54
Speaker 1: And I just have to say and jump in and
29:56
Speaker 1: change the subject a tiny bit. How could this mother
30:00
Speaker 1: not have known? When I talk about prevention of child abuse,
30:03
Speaker 1: which is one of my hot topics, listen, he if
30:06
Speaker 1: my husband came home with that much bleach and acatone,
30:09
Speaker 1: I'd be like, what the heck is this for? Number one?
30:12
Speaker 1: Number two injuries to the face, Number three, two boys
30:15
Speaker 1: in the home disclose the things that atrocities that he's
30:19
Speaker 1: committing on this little tiny girl number four. Look at
30:22
Speaker 1: all those steps he took to hide the body, putting
30:25
Speaker 1: her in a couch cushion that had to come from
30:28
Speaker 1: the home. I cannot believe that this mother did not
30:31
Speaker 1: know what that half the sofa was missing. If I
30:34
Speaker 1: came home and half the sofa was gone, I would notice, okay,
30:39
Speaker 1: I would notice. You know, I don't know this way
30:41
Speaker 1: in your house, Ashley. But when we finished supper and
30:45
Speaker 1: we get everything put away, everybody sits down on the
30:47
Speaker 1: dym and they either finish whatever project's homework or I'm
30:52
Speaker 1: on the computer blah blah blah. We always sit amazingly
30:56
Speaker 1: in the same spots unless the children are finding over
30:58
Speaker 1: the chair beside me. And if John David and the
31:02
Speaker 1: dog who usually get on the sofa, if there's not
31:04
Speaker 1: a sofa cushion, believe me, I would hear about it.
31:07
Speaker 1: How does she not know there was not a sofa
31:09
Speaker 1: cushion unless it was not from the home. You know
31:11
Speaker 1: what else is striking me is when I was reading
31:15
Speaker 1: about how the medical examiner took this tiny, little three
31:22
Speaker 1: year old body out of a body bag, and then
31:28
Speaker 1: in the body bag, a silver metallic body bag. I
31:31
Speaker 1: used to have nightmares about body bags all the time,
31:36
Speaker 1: I guess from all the cases I had at the
31:39
Speaker 1: District Attorney's office. But just taking a tiny little body
31:44
Speaker 1: out of a sealed metallic great body bag and opening
31:48
Speaker 1: it to find a yellow mesh dive bag. And after
31:55
Speaker 1: opening the dive bag, the body is enclosed in a
31:58
Speaker 1: plaid zip heard couch cushion cover. The cushion cover also
32:06
Speaker 1: contains a large I'm reading directly portion of a solid
32:10
Speaker 1: cement material and mixed with stones like a curb or
32:15
Speaker 1: parking curb. After opening the couch cushion cover, the body
32:20
Speaker 1: is wrapped in three white plastic trash bags which are
32:24
Speaker 1: tied around the neck. I'm just thinking about the physical
32:32
Speaker 1: act of finding this child's body. Inside the sofa cushion.
32:37
Speaker 1: There are diagonal abrasions across the left eyelid. There is
32:43
Speaker 1: a bruise on the left canthus, abrasion over the nose,
32:51
Speaker 1: another horizontal abrasion over the upper lip, abrasions below the chin.
33:00
Speaker 1: This is what I'm reading, This is what I'm learning
33:03
Speaker 1: right now. To Mike McHugh, Jacksonville Daily knees. Help me, Mike,
33:08
Speaker 1: how I'm just speculating. Well, let me let me yeah,
33:11
Speaker 1: let me add something to this discussion that we've had
33:14
Speaker 1: two things. I'm gonna say one again, two other items
33:17
Speaker 1: that came off of the inventory list from the search warrants,
33:20
Speaker 1: and we're talking about in a sexual nature. And I'll
33:23
Speaker 1: try to keep this clean. Found in the home where
33:26
Speaker 1: a homemade sexual device parenthetically referred to as a pocket
33:30
Speaker 1: vagina that was found in the backyard of the residence
33:33
Speaker 1: in the wood area. And also another similar device found
33:37
Speaker 1: in the residence of the home that's listed on the
33:41
Speaker 1: inventory list taken from the home. And of course they
33:43
Speaker 1: described this as being found in the backyard as far
33:45
Speaker 1: as the sofa cushion. And you say, would you miss
33:48
Speaker 1: one in your house, Absolutely anybody would. However, let me
33:51
Speaker 1: just add this that Kim Marie was first charged with
33:54
Speaker 1: second degree burglary on December second, and that stemmed from
33:57
Speaker 1: a break in to an abandoned home that is near
34:02
Speaker 1: their property. And to get to it, you can go
34:04
Speaker 1: either by the walk up the street it takes about
34:06
Speaker 1: less than five minutes. I did it myself several times,
34:08
Speaker 1: or go through the woods behind their home, and there's
34:11
Speaker 1: a path that leads to that abandoned home and it's
34:14
Speaker 1: it's a one story farm shack, but inside it is
34:18
Speaker 1: all sorts of furniture, sofas, dresser drawers, the like, beads.
34:24
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just that it's a shambles. But there
34:26
Speaker 1: was a lot of stuff there, and in the backyard
34:29
Speaker 1: there was furniture as well. So that's not to say
34:32
Speaker 1: that kim Ry's uh, the acquisition of the cushion came
34:36
Speaker 1: from within the dwelling on Dawson Cavin Road. He could
34:39
Speaker 1: have taken that from that home because he was also
34:42
Speaker 1: charged with a second degree burglary, felling, larceny, and filling
34:46
Speaker 1: possession of stolen property. And during that period of this investigation,
34:51
Speaker 1: there was a big talk about some dresser drawers that
34:53
Speaker 1: he had stolen and which was leading some of us
34:56
Speaker 1: to believe perhaps he transported the body on a dresser
34:59
Speaker 1: drawer should be small enough to fit an addresser drawer,
35:01
Speaker 1: but that didn't come out in this latest autopsy report
35:04
Speaker 1: here where she was placed inside a couch cushion. So
35:08
Speaker 1: I just wanted to add those two points. Well, it
35:10
Speaker 1: seems to me I might make cue that police would
35:13
Speaker 1: have noticed if there was a sofa cushion missing from
35:15
Speaker 1: the home. But even if it were not, I still
35:18
Speaker 1: don't know. I wonder if he allegedly killed her in
35:22
Speaker 1: the home, killed her in that abandoned structure. You're describing
35:28
Speaker 1: what exactly happened, then let me just that. Let me
35:32
Speaker 1: let me just that. A little time frame too, from
35:35
Speaker 1: the arrest Quarren on the break in one December second,
35:40
Speaker 1: they pegged the time between eleven thirty pm and one
35:44
Speaker 1: thirty am one November twenty six, twenty seventh, So that would,
35:51
Speaker 1: if you were drawn a timeline out, that break in
35:53
Speaker 1: would have occurred prior to several hours prior to the
35:57
Speaker 1: nine to eleven call, but would have given and Camrie
36:00
Speaker 1: time to make flight down to the creek. And again
36:04
Speaker 1: I mentioned it was twenty one miles from their home.
36:06
Speaker 1: Approximately twenty one miles I drove it from the Dawston
36:10
Speaker 1: Cabin residents down to Pender County in the Polly Shelter
36:15
Speaker 1: Game Lands area. So he had a busy night and
36:18
Speaker 1: that could explain to some of his sounds of anxiety
36:22
Speaker 1: and tiredness in that nine eleven call. Please bring her
36:26
Speaker 1: back and I love her I'll do anything that I can't.
36:32
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to break her home, please save a sound.
36:37
Speaker 1: She's by baby, She's by everything. What does she means
36:42
Speaker 1: to you and your family in this community? She's like
36:46
Speaker 1: an angel. I had my two's tied and burnt on
36:50
Speaker 1: each side. I felt out I was pregnant with her,
36:52
Speaker 1: so we call her our little angel. She's got the
36:56
Speaker 1: personality of make you laugh. She's goofy, outgoing, talkative. She
37:04
Speaker 1: knows how to make your day brighter. A lot to
37:07
Speaker 1: this community and people that are here looking for her
37:10
Speaker 1: love her to death. What would it means for you
37:13
Speaker 1: to see her face again? Everything in the world, just
37:17
Speaker 1: to be able to touch her and hold her, not
37:20
Speaker 1: let her go again. They give anything tacked Onsla County
37:24
Speaker 1: Sheriff Department, please and let us know. And if whoever
37:27
Speaker 1: has her, please, I'm begging you bring her home safe.
37:32
Speaker 1: That is the mother of three year old Mariah Woods.
37:35
Speaker 1: Mariah found twenty one miles away from home, stuffed in
37:40
Speaker 1: a sofa cushion cover and three trash bags, dead from
37:46
Speaker 1: chloroform toxicity, covered in bruises. Well, let's see, I'd do anything.
37:52
Speaker 1: Those were the words the mom said. How about keeping
37:56
Speaker 1: Earl Camery out of your house because, according to deef
38:00
Speaker 1: Facts reports, Mariah's brothers had been beaten by him in
38:04
Speaker 1: the past. So, Mike McHugh, what was the deal with
38:08
Speaker 1: the mom Because I mean, when you allow child molestation
38:14
Speaker 1: or just child abuse or neglect to a felony level
38:19
Speaker 1: and during the commission of that neglect a death occurs,
38:25
Speaker 1: that arguably could be the basis for a felony murder charge.
38:31
Speaker 1: So what's happening with mommy at the moment? Nothing. She
38:35
Speaker 1: was when the incident first started Monday, she was at
38:39
Speaker 1: the scene and she disappeared shortly thereafter. I think Tuesday
38:42
Speaker 1: morning she appeared and that was it. We never saw
38:45
Speaker 1: her again. I have seen her on several occasions after
38:50
Speaker 1: they lifted the crime scene tape days later, telling him
38:55
Speaker 1: a week later when she was coming back to retreat
38:57
Speaker 1: objects from the home where they still ahead Alisa at
39:01
Speaker 1: the place. Um, she's she's she's still living in the area. Um.
39:05
Speaker 1: But um, she doesn't surface, she's she's not a visible
39:09
Speaker 1: person in the community. Question, Yes, has she visited the
39:14
Speaker 1: boyfriend Kimrie behind bars or been having calls with him?
39:18
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't answer that either. Way. UM. I've asked,
39:22
Speaker 1: but I've never gotten an answer from an authority. UM
39:25
Speaker 1: that she has visited in Um in jail. You know,
39:30
Speaker 1: all the calls are recorded. I sure would like to
39:32
Speaker 1: find out who he's calling. At the his few a
39:35
Speaker 1: court appearances, UM, she was not present. In fact, there
39:39
Speaker 1: was nobody there from his family. Was you know it was.
39:42
Speaker 1: They're always brief the appearances in court. Um, but she
39:46
Speaker 1: was not there at those and we we were there
39:48
Speaker 1: at those events, but she was not there. What about it?
39:50
Speaker 1: Askeley Willcott? What about mommy? Oh mommy, what about mommy?
39:54
Speaker 1: So listen, there's no way even if it was only
39:59
Speaker 1: in her and she didn't actually see him do these
40:03
Speaker 1: things to this little three year old, beautiful girl, she knew.
40:08
Speaker 1: She had to have known. And this goes to what
40:11
Speaker 1: we see in so many cases in Nancy. I see
40:13
Speaker 1: it as a judge people who are in denial. Oh,
40:16
Speaker 1: maybe he did hit my son, but he'd never kill
40:19
Speaker 1: my daughter. No, no, no, no no. If they're going
40:21
Speaker 1: to take the first step of hitting a child, there's
40:24
Speaker 1: no opportunity to say they wouldn't kill my child. A hall,
40:29
Speaker 1: So she should have known. I don't know. It's fascinating.
40:33
Speaker 1: This is the other thing I see. Sometimes once they
40:35
Speaker 1: have the person in custody in jail who did the crime,
40:39
Speaker 1: that they say this is the one who did it.
40:41
Speaker 1: Sometimes they tend to forget about or let go of,
40:44
Speaker 1: who else might have known or been involved that should
40:47
Speaker 1: be charged with lesser charges. It was cold that night.
40:50
Speaker 1: Mariah's family say they went to bed around eight pm,
40:55
Speaker 1: and that's the last time they saw the three year
40:59
Speaker 1: old little girl. Les suffering from muscular district fish. She
41:02
Speaker 1: had to wear special shoes to help her walk. The
41:05
Speaker 1: next morning, the living boyfriend of Mariah's mother, Chrissie Woods,
41:11
Speaker 1: He reports her missing and Ambrellert goes out. It was
41:17
Speaker 1: days later the Feteville Police Department find Mariah's body at
41:21
Speaker 1: the bottom of a creek along a highway in Pender County.
41:26
Speaker 1: The autopsy report has just been obtained and we have
41:31
Speaker 1: been combing through it with a fine toothed comb, disturbing
41:35
Speaker 1: details such as she died of chloroformed toxicity. That's not
41:39
Speaker 1: a natural cause of death. Her body was actually zipped
41:45
Speaker 1: inside a couch cushion filled with cement. A three year
41:49
Speaker 1: old little girl's body disposed of in that manner. The
41:55
Speaker 1: boyfriend Adolphus Earl Kimry the second suspicion. But mommy seemingly
42:02
Speaker 1: has disappeared. Speaking of daddy, take a listen to what
42:09
Speaker 1: he tells me. Have they told you how they think
42:14
Speaker 1: she was killed? Alex? No, not yet. They as soon
42:19
Speaker 1: as they found her body, they rushed Greenville, North Carolina,
42:26
Speaker 1: where they was gonna perform the alktopsy and I'll find
42:30
Speaker 1: out further information on how, when, why, not? Why? But
42:36
Speaker 1: how and when and all that information, Alex. Do they
42:40
Speaker 1: believe that Mariah was molested? I have not. I do
42:46
Speaker 1: not know that me thinking I have, Yes, I think so.
42:54
Speaker 1: I hope him pray, not just for the peace of mind,
42:57
Speaker 1: but I think so. Yes. I have not heard that
43:00
Speaker 1: from nobody, because you know, they're now just doing the autopics.
43:04
Speaker 1: So I don't know, Alex. Was she clothed when she
43:08
Speaker 1: was found? I had no idea. They did not tell me.
43:11
Speaker 1: All they told me was that they found my baby girl.
43:15
Speaker 1: They frowned Mariah about twenty minutes away from where we're at,
43:23
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five minutes away from our home. According to
43:28
Speaker 1: those CPS documents, she was molested. Joe Scott Morgan. Do
43:34
Speaker 1: you recall what we learned from those documents? Yeah, that
43:38
Speaker 1: that she had the boys had witnessed her actually being
43:43
Speaker 1: molested by this person. So yeah, I think that that
43:47
Speaker 1: that that's going to make a strong case. Also this,
43:51
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta go back to this head trauma
43:53
Speaker 1: she sustained. I'm really wondering Nancy if she hasn't been
43:58
Speaker 1: subdued in some way, almost in a tortuous manner, to
44:01
Speaker 1: force her to do things that she would not want
44:04
Speaker 1: to do, or was sick and tired of doing. Well,
44:06
Speaker 1: we know this, we know that in those CPS documents,
44:10
Speaker 1: the father, Alex Woods, claimed that Earl Kimry, the living boyfriend,
44:16
Speaker 1: assaulted Mariath, a three year old little girl with muscular distrophy,
44:20
Speaker 1: sexually and physically abused the two little boys, beating them
44:24
Speaker 1: with the belt, one of them in the face, causing
44:27
Speaker 1: a nosebleed. I mean, right there, Ashley Wilcot, why was
44:33
Speaker 1: he not kicked out of the home? Right then and there?
44:38
Speaker 1: Two things? Number one, why was he not kicked out
44:40
Speaker 1: of the home. Why in the world would you ever
44:42
Speaker 1: ever ever allow someone like this to be around the children?
44:45
Speaker 1: Number two, why didn't somebody let defects know. This mother
44:50
Speaker 1: had to have known. I still, if these kids say
44:52
Speaker 1: this happened, the mother had to have known that. It
44:55
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, and I would argue that this death
44:58
Speaker 1: could have been prevented had proper steps been taken. To
45:02
Speaker 1: Karen Start NewYork psychologists, what's any logical reason why he
45:08
Speaker 1: was allowed to stay in the home after these allegations? Why?
45:11
Speaker 1: It's not logical, Nancy. But it's clear to me that
45:17
Speaker 1: this mother was dependent on this guy for whatever reason.
45:21
Speaker 1: She felt like she needed to have him in her
45:24
Speaker 1: life and was willing to sacrifice the wellbeing of her
45:28
Speaker 1: children to keep this guy around. So it's a desperate
45:32
Speaker 1: kind of love that doesn't intellectually make sense, but emotionally,
45:37
Speaker 1: she had to have him around her children didn't matter.
45:42
Speaker 1: The cops working overtime on this ever a hundred interviews,
45:46
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty leads, bringing the FBI Child Abduction
45:50
Speaker 1: Rapid Deployment Team Team ADAM from NICKMA seven hundred and
45:54
Speaker 1: thirty volunteers in the search for Mariah, expanding from Oslo
45:59
Speaker 1: to Pender County. Ninety five thousand pounds of trash was
46:04
Speaker 1: sifted by hand looking for items of interest. So tell me,
46:10
Speaker 1: Mike McHugh, what about a potential prosecution? Where does it stand?
46:16
Speaker 1: What do you know? Well, where it stands right now
46:19
Speaker 1: is and I spoke to District Attorney Ernie Lee yesterday.
46:23
Speaker 1: The tenetive trial date is slated for September of twenty nineteen.
46:29
Speaker 1: The defense Wally Paramour. He's a local attorney and he's
46:33
Speaker 1: been on both sides. He was an ADA and now
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Speaker 1: he's in private practice. He's going to be teamed up
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Speaker 1: with Brook Mangam from the Capitol Defender's Office out of Lumberton.
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Speaker 1: They've already filed a motion with the court to change
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Speaker 1: the venue. That was filed on March first of this year,
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Speaker 1: and that motion still pending. According to District Attorney League,
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Speaker 1: the state sent over beginning on February twenty sixth through
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Speaker 1: June twenty second, they sent over a mountain of discovery,
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Speaker 1: including eighty seven discs. Um. This this district attorney that
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Speaker 1: we have here in Honswick County, this isn't his first rodeo.
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Speaker 1: He's um he's been prosecuting for thirty one years. Uh.
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Speaker 1: He has any capital cases and four of which have
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Speaker 1: resulted in a death sentence. So he's been down this
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Speaker 1: road several times before. UM, and I think they're I
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Speaker 1: think they're moving on a fast track with this, with
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Speaker 1: this trial here. UM, if I could just go back,
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Speaker 1: I hate circling back here because we covered the ground,
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Speaker 1: but I wanted to add something to kind of would
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Speaker 1: probably add another layer to the description of mister Kimry Uh.
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Speaker 1: Mariah Woods she had an ambulatory um defect that m
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Speaker 1: prohibited her Fromlwaukee. Normally, she wore leg braces and she
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Speaker 1: was being treated by a specialist up in Chapel Hill,
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Speaker 1: which is about three hours from here, two and a
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Speaker 1: half hours from here. And the wife of the pastor
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Speaker 1: the church in which um Mariah and her mother went
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Speaker 1: to was kind enough to drive Mariah to see the
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Speaker 1: doctor's office on a regular basis, And she was at
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Speaker 1: the scene on Monday and I was talking with her.
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Speaker 1: I first met her right there out there and I
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Speaker 1: was looking at the house and I asked her, I said,
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Speaker 1: where was Mariah's bedroom And she says, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: And I said, well, you just told me that you
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Speaker 1: picked the child. You know, you pick the child up
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Speaker 1: up to Chapel Hill from her doctor's appointment, She's there
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Speaker 1: I do. But when I come to the home to
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Speaker 1: pick her up, I met at the door by mister Kimry.
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Speaker 1: And when I come back in the evening to drop
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Speaker 1: her off, I meet he meets me at the front door.
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Speaker 1: I was never allowed inside the house. That should have
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Speaker 1: been That's a sign. Now she can look back on that.
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Speaker 1: But there were a lot of signs that this house
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Speaker 1: was dysfunctional, and just nobody acted upon him. That hurts
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Speaker 1: me so much. Mike mckugh to know that there were
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Speaker 1: warning flags, that there were signals that nobody could really read.
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Speaker 1: The father tried to get custody and made these accusations
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Speaker 1: and formal documents that Mariah would stayed in the home,
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Speaker 1: And now we find out how she was killed and
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