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OFSN 102: Basic Staff Alignment & Assignment · Boundary Corner Podcast

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The fields for the dirt. We don't even grow has been my
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more than just cleaning shit off.
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You'll stay cool. This house is falling down.
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The base Bellas are poking out. It can ramble mother mold of
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Steel. This stuck in a trap.
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Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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This is Curtis Wilson in my co-host.
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Brian Siegel. How's it going guys?
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I'm going well today man. You know, working having a
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typical beginning of the week stuff man.
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How about you man? That's too bad.
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It's kind of quiet day on the floor here today so I can't
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complain, man, you're good weekend.
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Oh no. Terrible weekend.
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My wife was sick. This week ended.
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So Was like me you know playing defense with my two boys all
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weekend. Not enjoyable she's feeling
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better now, that's good. Yeah yeah and you know like your
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wife both our wives our teachers, boundary Corner
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listeners, they're off today so you know one of those
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strategically placed holidays especially for your wife, coming
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off the coming up the illness day.
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Exactly and well deserved for all of our teachers out there.
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So you know, how about you, you getting too much this weekend,
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man? It was like there was a quiet
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weekend at the sequel household, though, we did have my mom came
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in yesterday, had some lunch and just hung out for a few hours
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before they headed back but yeah, it was kind of quiet,
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nothing to complain about. So I'll take it real nice math.
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Well, you know just chilling running back and forth between
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my Kids, the older one playing a videogame, the smaller one
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watching Blaze so much, we go out.
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The can Phillips absolutely is blowing up in the XFL, man.
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He is tearing it up. We had a hat trick of touchdowns
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last night from this man first game.
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He was beaten guys deep in this game.
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He was the the Red Zone threat. So he's showing that he can, he
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can kind of do a little bit of everything.
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He's something like what now? He's like, what?
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Thirteen catches a hundred, you know, 25 plus yards four
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touchdowns. Yeah you know I hope you can
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Phillips you know one of those great players with us had that
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season in 2017. We really shine got drafted by
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the bills made it there, a couple of years and then kind of
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faded off. But I'm going to tell you what
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I'm seeing, just the way he's playing.
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He's going to get a call in April.
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Yeah, he's going to catch on. Leave her be all the 90-day
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somewhere and not the naughty man somewhere and I think, you
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know, we'll see what goes from there.
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But you know, I think he's doing too much in the XFL not to at
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least get a phone call in a whoop for a week or so and
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somebody's can no doubt. And you know this is kind of
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what I'm hoping the XFL can be like guys like cam who we follow
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our Hokies, but you seem kind of like he can do it, but in the
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end you seem get drafted, excuse me.
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Picked up as a, you know, non drafted free agent and he sticks
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with the team for a couple years.
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And it's like, he's one of those guys that's going to benefit
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from this, because the way I kind of see the XFL.
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It's, it's just a slight Notch above, most Collegiate football,
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but it's not in the realm of the NFL.
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So for guys, like cam, like Ricky, who's on a team?
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It's a chance to say, hey, I can play for.
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Give me a couple years to develop.
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I've got a good analogy for what?
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Kind of I think the XFL looks like it.
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Kind of looks like an entire season of what that fourth
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preseason game is for a lot of these players where they get
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maybe 1/2 two, maybe three quarters to kind of, kind of
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show out where now they've got a whole season in this league to
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show what they're capable of and you're going to start seeing,
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you know, you get more tape on the guy than you might say.
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Okay, well, let's give him a little bit more reps in practice
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when we bring them into Kansas, go round, or something like
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that. So, I think those those are with
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benefits are going to be. Yeah.
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And, and definitely for, you know, cam Phillips, the Hokie
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alumni. He's doing the most with it.
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And so, let's see in April, if he does get signed to a roster,
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something on last episode guys, we missed didn't mean to.
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But I think we were, so we mentioned his name.
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But we were so deep into recruiting and portal and the
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guys who are going to be here is Dalton King.
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Got the combo, Scramble got the combat invite.
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Good for him Braun, you know you can be in the football guy.
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It's there a spot for Dalton Keenan, two days in FL.
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Yes, I think there's definitely going to be a spot for him.
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I'm not sure if he's going to be that guy that you're going to
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see getting, you know, 80% of the snaps for a team.
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I don't think he's gonna be that guy at the NFL level, but I
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definitely think he's going to be a contributor.
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I think he's got some potential. Shal on special teams even
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though he didn't do a ton of special teams with the Hokies
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just his frame is athletic ability and his ability to block
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him face. I think you're going to see a
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lot of specialty Mews by him and I think because of his kind of
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Versatility as an offensive player that's going to be a guy
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that you want to keep his, maybe your third or fourth tight end
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on your roster that can do some stuff from the HVAC roll on top
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of may be contributing on special teams now, I know
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people. We're going to definitely look
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at what. Did he run?
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40 wise, I want to see his 20-yard comb because the one
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thing if you noticed about Dalton playing a lot of sudden,
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a lot of those angle routes. Yeah, lot of the pot passes, I
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think his 20-yard cone is going to tell something to a lot of
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teams because I think if it few runs it well, like I think he is
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because I think he has some flexibility in his frame.
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I think that's going to tell people to saying, look how
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flexible is he's going to be that guy.
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Like we're running an outside Zone.
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We can put them at that age back and he can kind Of Swing his way
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through the garden, The Tackle, and get to the second level.
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That's gonna be the drill. I think that is going to show
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for him that if he does well you're going to see him getting
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drafted day three. Yeah and he's blocking in space
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was really good as well and I think that's that's going to be
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another thing that we're going to probably watch at these camps
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and watch a lot of tape on him is his ability to block in Space
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is really good. Definitely I'd say Pop in that
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area yet. Definitely not Elite in the in
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line blocking, but I think as far as his ability to block in
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space, either in a lead role, or split out, and get into the
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second level against the linebacker or safety, he's
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definitely someone that can contribute their absolutely one
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other thing that Dalton kind of made a splash within the last
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week or so here, I'm going to read the Tweet out Brian.
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He made this back on the 7th. Concerning some people
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discussing for Wednesday in the twittersphere and this was D.
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Cute /, quote went a, is a coach to demands 100% out of his
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players every day. I don't think that makes it a
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toxic environment at all. And to be honest, I wouldn't
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want to play for a coach that would settle for less.
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If you're not 100% in, then get 100% out of the program.
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You know, I again the - twittersphere going on and kind
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of Alton answered. And guys, like Daris all and
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some other folks, kind of replicated and kind of gave him
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the yep. That's it guys.
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So that first blood or First Blood Part 2 first Blood that's
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the original. That's the original.
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The cuz you know if he goes he said his piece and I appreciate
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that. I appreciate the players you
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know, coming in and you know trying to make put the
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Programming the light that they feel it.
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It should be in the said of some of the, the more toxic Corners
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that we see in this, in the twittersphere, and I mean for,
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there's always going to have a negative element to it.
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But yeah, I feel like sometimes the, you know, we get the loud
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voices coming from the smallest percentage and I feel like it's
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sometimes nice to have the players step up and put some of
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that to rest. Absolutely.
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And their voices are definitely going to be the voices that
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these recruits can. More than just fans and other
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folks in the hook Universe. Speaking of the Hokey Universe,
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kind of a big thing happened in the RV, a today form a defensive
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tackle for the Hokies, Jonathan Lewis who had five year NFL
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career. He was named defensive
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coordinator out at piranha Verano, who had kind of been
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down for a year for years. Thanks to Highland Springs.
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Sprung back up, made the state. Ship game beat Highland Springs
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on their way. There lost a Maury.
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I like this as I mean Louis played with, you know, Darryl
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Tapp new defensive line coach Darryl Tapp so again, people are
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talking about, let's cultivate the 8004 and it's cultivate
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Virginia. Now, you got somebody down here,
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who is obviously helping build the program back up.
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What's your takes on that? Braun, it's gonna be nice.
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Obviously, having some People out in the no.4 and especially
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at a program like Veronica that not only has you know some
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current high-profile wins but also has a big-time history of
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winning in the eighth of for so I mean, it's going to be nothing
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but positive. I feel so therefore in terms of
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recruiting in general and the 804 in terms of recruiting from,
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I hope you perspective in particular, so I see nothing but
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good things coming from this. Especially from a hockey fan
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perspective. Yeah, I mean because you
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Jonathan out there. Obviously Sam Rogers took over
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Hanover announced a couple months ago, Lauren Johnson out
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of Holland Springs. All the Thailand Springs now is
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to appoint. They're producing so much
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talent. The Hokies have sworn.
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It Mystic quite a few of them but a lot of guys they missed
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that are going to significantly, you know, your top 10 program
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which is where we want to get to.
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So, you know, a guys that the talents here don't be afraid to
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get it. Don't be afraid to use the
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connections yet me, we got, you know, if that work at the 757.
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And I think, you know, we need to tap into the data for a
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little bit more because we did Miss on a couple guys that were
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looking for from the Greater Richmond area and it'd be nice
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to start start laying some of them guys, again, absolutely,
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and 2021 is a big year, it is not only Talent Rich down in the
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757, but it's time. Rich in 804 just a land rich in
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Nova. This is a big year for Virginia
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and I know probably in some future episodes guys were going
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to be breaking down. You know what we're looking
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like, 20 21 was probably in state and probably Bryan taking
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a look at tape me, taking the look at positional, like how are
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we looking at the bees positions inside Hokie nation and saying
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we're going to go after this guy like because for example, if the
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depth chart is absolutely full, you know what What will make us
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lose form, but we're not going to go head over heels because
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you've got a bunch of guys that can play.
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It's a tough sell. Well, you got that in.
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You also have with a crop of talent.
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Like the the 2021 town is looking like both in state and
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within our recruiting footprint. I definitely think that we're
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going to go for guys that we know.
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We can get a man, we can get them, get them on the field, you
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know, if If not you're one year to and definitely build up that
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not necessarily go after guys just to stack it one position
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just because it's there. Absolutely I'm something else.
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I've noticed really these last few days the Virginia Tech
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football Twitter account has really I want to say stepped.
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It's in game up trying to show culture, show personality.
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I'm sure. Braun.
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Did you? I'm going to go buy eat Each one
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of these, make sure you've seen them because I have.
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Did you see the Fuente girl Dad drop?
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Yeah. That that one, actually.
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I'd say impressed me the most and the thing that aside from
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the content, the thing that stood out to me, the most was
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how relaxed for what they seem in that in that video.
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And the thing that really struck me was if you go back and listen
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to the video, listen to is accent, his action is thicker in
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that video than any pressure. I've seen any other Media that's
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been dropped out. He seemed like he was really
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just talking the way he talks and not nothing seemed playing
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nothing seemed, you know, inauthentic so I think that
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that's going to be that's going to go a long way with without
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any nation in my opinion just because it seemed relaxed and it
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seemed authentic. Yeah, it did seem 100% authentic
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talking about his girls there and talking about being a girl,
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dad. And in talking about the
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investment in the program he said it and it made me Reflect
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back to Remember, the Titans and Hayden Panettiere each
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character. Like, I pictured, him walking in
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and like his oldest daughter, jumping on him about play and
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like, okay. But yeah, I loved it.
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The other one, the Doug Masters, Mom.
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Hey man, if Mom has like programs, usually that helps and
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if Mama signing off as it is and to someone of nesters caliber,
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dog was a top 10. Player he had committed to Ohio
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State. He had kind of held our visit
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kind of in the bag for a while and because if you kind of hear
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that video was he kind of knew that if I go there, I know
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what's going to happen and he waited and he went and it wasn't
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long. He flipped.
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And but again, getting that approval from a parent, again,
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kind of reshaping. This is the culture.
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This is what we are loved it. One of the cool things that just
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dropped very recently. Was it looks like they are
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putting up the new locker room stuff.
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Yes and in the words of ludicrous I got a got area codes
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and I love it because it gives the guys name and where they're
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from and I think they used Grace yard at the 804 700.
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For the 757 James Mitchell fixed on Gap.
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In felt for the 276 and then Henderson.
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At the 336 and those are, that's kind of where Virginia Tech is
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in the middle of those for area codes.
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We did Miss in Northern Virginia, they are but I'm sure
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you can probably see more that but I like in a like something
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like that. It's kind of showing your here.
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Now with this is where you came from.
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Yeah. And it's showing that you come
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from different places. Once you're here, you're here,
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you're hokey or oq for life. Life.
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This is home. Just it's all about absolutely.
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And the last piece, and it's kind of going to kind of set up
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what we're going to be talking about here today is the about a
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four to five minute feature. On the four new coaches here
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between Tracy claeys, built turtleneck Ryan Smith who's
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younger than us, which makes me sad and Darryl Tapp who's our
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age, which yeah that's Cool. I'll take especially especially
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meaning Darrell few years ago again here in those guys talk
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and I don't know again it just made you feel good and I know
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there's a lot of negativity. We can you look for optimism and
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what really struck me. Brian.
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And it was the way bills cheering installed, you could
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kind of hear, it wasn't, it was very authentic in his voice
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about. Yeah, the NFL something and it's
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great, but it's something about the right place, the right
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people and what you're trying to get to.
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And to me that says something because Bill turn, it could get
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a job at any NFL team. He wants, he can his dad's The
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Godfather, he is shown that he can do that and then he came
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here what else did you get from that video?
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Empty several things. I'll be I'm glad you pointed out
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the chilling piece there. I mean, he's talking about, you
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know, it's not just what you're doing, but who you're doing it
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with what you're doing, is what you're trying to accomplish.
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So I think that's that's the big piece for him.
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I think just in general it was great hearing directly from
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these new staffers about just hearing stories about what
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they've done before or, you know, quick right up.
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So it was good to hear it directly directly from them, I
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think. Like that.
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But like you've been pointing out is what the fans have kind
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of been clamoring for a little bit more.
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We don't necessarily need to know everything that's
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happening, but if we can just, you know, get a little closer,
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don't keep us as much at arm's length.
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You know, will definitely Embrace that a lot more.
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So I think that's the big thing. It seems like everybody's
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excited to be in the building and I think, you know, they want
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to do something want to build something new with.
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They also want to honor the Traditions that we have that
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come before them. So I think that's big And just
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how they all seem to be talking about jehan's energy and hard
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work, and how that kind of was a big attracting factor for them
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and why they're there. So I think that that's, that's
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the big things. The big takeaways that I have
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absolutely. Well, we've opened up went
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through some things for the remainder of the show.
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This is kind of what we're looking at today.
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Guys. We're going to be looking at the
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staff itself. Obviously, yet for new guys, we
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just discussed there were some Al going guys.
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Some of those are going guys, rub people, the wrong way, the
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way he let go. There's some staff changes,
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clearly John's mooching J Hamm here, but Madam like them Berg
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as well. We're going to discuss that
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along with these new guys in that interview.
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So before we go any further, we've got to stop here and we've
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got to start with the outgoing Staff.
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All right, so obviously the biggest outgoing coach is the
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legendary. Gary Bud.
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Foster to me the greatest defensive coordinator in the
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history of college football. No doubt, you know it was big
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but it was known luckily but didn't pull anybody strings.
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He came out in August in announced it sort of got the
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team and the staff a chance to hate looks.
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This is how we're going to look in the future and kind of revert
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back to why the 2020 doesn't look great?
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Well, when you don't have a name defensive coordinator stuff when
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going to hurt You know, I don't know what else to say on bud,
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Brian. You and I were lucky enough.
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We were at the pit game. We were at his last game in Lane
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Stadium pitching. The shutout, the defense that
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day. Played unbelievable.
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It was a fun time in the rain. It wasn't.
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It was a fun time. In the rain.
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We were at the perfect spot though.
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We were at that. Right.
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Out of the rain we would have been to Rosedale.
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We would have been soaked. We are right out of the rain but
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I mean but losing Bud hurts. I mean he'd been on the staff
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since you know, since we were like in diapers got the
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defensive coordinator title back in the mid-90s and then ran with
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it for the next 20 plus years. And I say legendary, I mean
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those defenses in the mid-2000s man if we had any semblance of
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an offense in 05, 06 or 07. Yeah.
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If we could have just been You know above average in that
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category, you're talking about some some serious, some serious
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winds there and that's on top of you know having having a run
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there that was better than you know most of the the top 10
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programs that were talking about trying to get back to.
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So you know it's it's something you know, there's some there's
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some Coulda woulda's in there but at the same time you gotta
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appreciate what he was able to do while he was there and just
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glad that we got to experience. That Rod pretty much from start
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to finish. Yeah we did our age group.
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Definitely did let me throw this at you.
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Should he be the leading individual as to put
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coordinators into the College Football Hall of Fame?
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There's none in there right now, but as you remember during the
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announcement and people are like, you've got to put them in
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there. He changed the way the game is
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played, the way people look at coordinators, you know?
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There's obviously some other guys, I feel like I cannot think
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of The guy's name, but the like Switzer's OC, who brought the
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wishbone to Oklahoma, some of Bears defensive, those guys
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deserve to be in there and I'm hoping with him being younger
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guy, you know. And it's, you know, in his early
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60s I'm really hoping overall that they can get the benefit
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and say, we're going to put these guys in, we're going to
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put a wing for the coordinators in the position, coaches, who,
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you know, had coaches are great. But if you don't have these guys
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on certain teams, these You know, these guys aren't as great
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as they seem. And, yeah, there's guys that
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innovate in the the college football world that aren't
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necessarily guys, that would make good head, coaches or
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interested in becoming head coaches.
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But that doesn't discount how they impacted the teams.
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They were part of because of the be, they were bringing
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innovative ideas to the Forefront.
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Now those, those head coaches were certainly, you know, they
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in their wisdom. They saw, let's Embrace these
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new ideas But you know, let's give some credit to the guys
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that are either taking what was already there and building upon
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it or kind of coming up with some of these these schemes
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themselves. So, I think that there's
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definitely a wing there that needs to be dedicated to these
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these coordinators that they really change the game in a lot
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of ways. Absolutely.
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So there's our first big loss when you about that ahead of
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time. The next one and the one that
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rubbed people the wrong way was the letter.
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Go Charlie walls, Charlie. Who had been with the program?
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You know, since 96? So significantly long was
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advised, he wasn't going to be returned.
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Now, the way conversations go, he was given the option to coach
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the bowl game. He didn't want to do that.
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That's his choice. Give me what your take is on,
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Charlie. I love Charlie.
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I thought he always coach guys, up.
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Good, never met him, but why do you think Charlie was all in?
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All that go? Now, I think the biggest thing
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is that, you know, and we'll talk about this more as we get
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to the new defensive staff. But I think just with a younger
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coordinator, I think we were moving to more of a younger more
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energetic staff. I mean, I just think that that
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that's that's the direction that we were heading.
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And I think because of that, he was pretty much kind of put to
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Charlie. Hey, we're heading in this
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direction. Do you want to coach in the bowl
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game to go out with bud? Or do you want to go ahead and
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pack it in and, and call it a day?
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Unfortunately, you know, he decided he wanted to take that
24:49
latter option, which I don't, I don't begrudge him but I'm sad
24:53
that that Hokie Nation didn't get to see him in, but kind of
24:55
go out at the same time, because I think I've been pretty special
24:58
thing to see agreed and Charlie, clearly, I think Maybe one
25:02
reason he did that was to get a jump on his next Endeavor, and
25:06
he is down at NC State now. So going to be recruiting
25:10
against him. He's got a friend down there
25:12
now, too. Absolutely.
25:15
Yeah. Brian Mitchell.
25:16
Quarterbacks coach also, let go also down at State again.
25:21
Don't know enough about Mitchell, but he was let go.
25:26
You know, I mean I kind of this is this is the with what we
25:29
ended up seeing. I think this was definitely a
25:30
push to get a guy with Northern Virginia ties.
25:34
And you know, in-state born, born and bred Virginian and
25:39
house for that position. I just think that that's, that's
25:42
ultimately, what would led to be Mitch being being let go there?
25:47
I think we kind of had a couple ideas in mind and I think both
25:50
of them were going to be Virginia Natives and ultimately,
25:53
you know, Ryan Smith is who we ended up.
25:56
Getting at the quarterback spot, but I feel like that's kind of
25:59
the direction we were heading. And that, unfortunately, put
26:02
could be met on the outs there. Yeah, and again, down at state.
26:06
So again, going to be recruited against him.
26:07
Last got let go on Zone burdens on hasn't landed anywhere else
26:11
and that's some me and you were kind of shocked about because,
26:14
when he was originally, let go were, like not shot was a part
26:17
of the old staff but we were like, oh, do you Campton
26:22
somebody within the first couple was fourth in the first month of
26:25
probably pick him up? You know, known as a good
26:27
recruiter but he hasn't so yeah, that was a big shock to both of
26:32
us. I mean I thought that definitely
26:33
for sure, one of the seven, five seven programs were picked him
26:37
up. Whether you know Division, 1 or
26:39
Division 1 double a one of those schools down there was going to
26:42
was going to scoop him up for at least two position roll.
26:44
If not offensive coordinator look, and it just didn't come to
26:47
fruition. So it's very interesting how
26:50
that went on. So we're going to move onto.
26:52
Those are the guys out inside the Graham, there were some
26:56
staff changes. Obviously, the biggest was
27:00
Justin Hamilton going from the safeties coach to defensive
27:06
coordinator. Justin 38 years old?
27:10
You run, you did a little more for folks that don't know
27:14
Justin. He you know, there's a lot of
27:15
stuff in Prime did a little digging on them.
27:17
So Brian just kind of what you found out by researching.
27:22
All right so I mean we obviously got to Southwest Virginia.
27:25
Native coming in Into the defensive coordinator role,
27:27
which I think is a big thing, both for the state.
27:30
And for the school, there's been a big Push by both the fan base
27:34
and alumni to really start. Looking at Virginia will be
27:39
closed and I think this is definitely a concerted effort to
27:42
really get back on that in-state recruiting wagon and starting
27:45
scoring some of those those bigger bigger fish from the 757,
27:50
804 Northern Virginia. Yeah I think that's the biggest
27:54
thing that we're talking about. Just about Justin in general.
27:58
I mean, any hockey fans going to know the use of versatile.
28:02
Use a versatile player, he was a team first, guy low ego, you
28:07
know, play three or four positions, whatever was needed
28:11
of him. He was, he was willing to step
28:14
in and get it done. You know, I think again 38.
28:18
So we're talking about bringing in a coordinator.
28:20
That's going to be young energetic, but he's got that
28:24
hokey blood in and he's got that lunch pail.
28:26
In him. So I think you're going to see a
28:28
blend of the old. It was some, maybe some new
28:31
ideas and some new new ways of attacking off, that may help us
28:38
especially when it comes to things like containing
28:42
quarterback runs which have kind of been the Bugaboo for our
28:45
defense, despite all of the successes through in our
28:48
history. So I think we might see some
28:51
some new things from him that might try to address that he was
28:56
the coordinator UVa-Wise coach outside linebackers of Emi and
29:01
then I was to from Virginia Tech perspective as a member of the
29:05
staff. He's been you had an on-field
29:08
and all field presidency at player Personnel position when
29:11
he first came on and now he's coaching the safeties.
29:15
So I mean I think we're really getting a really big asset for
29:19
us. You know, there is some some
29:22
fear because of the unknown because we don't know what he
29:25
looks like. Defensive coordinator at the
29:27
power 5 level. But in terms of intangibles, in
29:32
terms of football IQ, and in terms of just being able to
29:36
build relationships with players and with the community, I don't
29:39
think there's anybody, that we could have found better.
29:42
Yeah, I agree in the football, like, you is the big piece.
29:45
A lot of people, you know, while we were supposed to get some
29:48
million-dollar coordinator yada yada, but then you kind of talk
29:53
and say, you realize this guy went from playing Running back
29:56
to receiver to flipping and playing safety for two years,
29:59
then getting drafted and playing in the NFL for three years.
30:02
Before he hurt his knee, do you know the amount of intelligence
30:05
and takes to do that to say oh yeah you're going to learn this.
30:08
Well then you're going to learn this.
30:09
Now we need you to completely do something different and learn
30:11
this and become so good at it. That you go to the highest part
30:15
of your profession and I stay one year, but make it three
30:18
years and probably would've been longer if not for the injury.
30:21
And when you think of folks like that in my opinion, that's why
30:24
when they named I'm like Is first of all the Hokey through
30:27
and through. But how smart you have to be
30:31
run, you play offensive line and you switch positions.
30:33
Occasionally to say, you're not even switching, you're not even
30:38
staying in your core group. You're jumping from this group
30:40
and this group and now completely other side of the
30:41
ball in the intelligence. It takes in the football.
30:44
Like you it takes there's going to be probably things that he
30:47
can see that. Not many players can see because
30:51
I've done this before. Yeah.
30:53
There's always a benefit from guys that were able to Play both
30:57
sides of the ball at a high level just because I mean as a
31:02
as an offensive, lineman that coach defensive tackles, you
31:06
know, I didn't just coach even two tackles on technique and
31:09
things like that. I also told him, hey, here's
31:10
what the offensive lineman is going to do.
31:13
Here's how you can counter that. Here's how you can negate that.
31:17
So, I mean there's bigger degree of understanding.
31:21
There is not just scheme and knowing where to be and what to
31:25
do. But also, Okay.
31:26
Well if they throw this at you knowing hey what's a good
31:29
counter punch. Exactly.
31:31
And there's we think you can probably see like that.
31:33
That again not many people have that same view of.
31:38
Yeah, I'm really excited to see what he's going to do.
31:40
I mean I like I said I don't know at this point what changes
31:43
are going to look like? I'm really looking forward to
31:44
the spring game to really see from a scheme perspective, how
31:48
much different this calls are going to be relative to what we
31:52
saw from bud. Absolutely.
31:55
Alright. The second move was Adam like
32:00
them Berg was moved from the associate head.
32:03
Coach to the running back coach. Yeah, I heard about that.
32:08
You have some thoughts about that.
32:10
God. So I'm sitting here and they
32:12
would he was hired for the role last year like, okay.
32:16
Okay. This is going to be your game
32:18
manager. I felt we'd like, we horribly
32:21
manage games this year, like, if this is your job, To help coach
32:24
for Wednesday with the timeout situations and down in distance.
32:28
Oh my god. There were times just like,
32:29
okay, called a timeout. Why aren't we calling the
32:32
timeout? Somebody get in his ear.
32:34
If that was his job, which you kind of Wonder?
32:36
Is that your responsibility as the ahc?
32:39
You know, it was terrible. Also, we didn't know what his
32:43
responsibilities was, which is in the tight-lipped part of the
32:46
program, which we hate is like, what are you doing?
32:49
His resume, doesn't in, you know, excite me.
32:54
No, he did play it Nebraska in the late 90s early 2000s when
32:59
they were a very good team under solich but then like he was at
33:04
it, he was a ga at Wayne State. He was a G8 TCU during those
33:09
good years. That's a ga not a position coach
33:14
nothing like that the ga 2010 and 2011.
33:18
He was a co-offensive coordinator at Central
33:21
Connecticut University couldn't tell you if that's D3.
33:24
Edie to in a. I so clearly not, you know, one
33:28
day a or the highest level and then 2012, he goes to Memphis as
33:34
the person will pursue director of player Personnel much.
33:37
Like we've got Pearson Prelude, now doing that for us, he had he
33:42
did a lot of stuff in that role which is great.
33:45
Kind of get some different views and stuff but he was not
33:49
immediately brought to Virginia Tech by coach Fuente.
33:52
He went to UT And where he was the passing game, coordinator
33:55
wide receiver coach and 16, then he became the director of player
34:00
personnel and 17 at Tech. So, it's just not a to me, not
34:05
enthusiastic because I don't know anything about it and My
34:09
Hope Is We blow up. I'm hoping at in December, I get
34:15
to say, yeah, I was wrong. This was the best running back
34:18
group, we've had since David Wilson but I'm just so scared
34:22
because The background. It's like what is he here for?
34:26
Yeah, I mean the biggest positive that I see out of this
34:29
right now is that? I mean here's a here's a food
34:33
guy, he's been in with went to a it multiple stops at this point
34:39
and I think he's a guy that probably knows what fun things
34:42
trying to do from an offensive scheme perspective, maybe even
34:47
better than some of the coaches we've had whether he can relay
34:51
that information and Coach up the the player.
34:54
The way he needs to is, maybe the the question mark we have at
34:57
this point because, you know, based on his resume we don't
35:01
have a lot of big damage to to Rally behind a success in this
35:05
terms of the position itself, he hasn't really cooked it.
35:09
So that that part is a little disheartening, it is definitely
35:13
not something that I'm enthusiastic about.
35:14
I'm I am glad from a recruiting perspective that we still got
35:18
this guy and house because he seems to do really well on the
35:21
recruiting Trail. So, If you're looking for a
35:24
silver lining going back to, I know we talked about that a lot
35:29
back in the The Stone spring day is like, yeah, you can't call
35:33
plays but that sumbitch can recruit good.
36:00
Now 24 guys, me and Brian were both excited about getting
36:07
hired. I want to start with Ryan Smith.
36:12
The youngest of these for new hires, I'm trying to do the
36:15
math. I don't think Ryan Smith is 30
36:17
years old. He is so young youth, but, um,
36:24
As I Look to his resume and kind of the stuff he did, I see him
36:28
being young and I compare him to like him Berg's resume and I
36:32
love his just a few things about Ryan Smith for everybody to
36:35
know. Ryan Smith is a Virginia born
36:39
and bred Kid. Born in King.
36:40
George Virginia went to William and Mary is a defensive backs.
36:47
We played under Jimmy laycock, laycock has a great track record
36:52
of his players, becoming Excellent coaches.
36:55
See Mike Tomlin the Pittsburgh Steelers, see Sean McDermott
37:00
with the Buffalo Bills. He was there for five years, he
37:04
graduated in 2014. Also, he went away in and marry,
37:10
you just don't get into even married to play football.
37:13
You literally have to be a scholar athlete to get in there.
37:16
So, there is a clearly, a very smart guy.
37:20
We have picked up here He graduated 2014, he went down to
37:27
University, Texas. San Antonio, as a ga from there,
37:32
15 and 16, he was at Penn State. As a ga 16 was there Rose Bowl
37:39
season, one of the best seasons, they've really had in the last
37:42
two decades. I like us going to somebody that
37:47
went to Penn getting somebody who's seen the inner workings of
37:50
Penn State especially as much if they poach from us for the last
37:53
S couple of years after 16 2017, and 2018 under Kirk dignity.
38:01
He was down at E Line as their secondary coach had some very
38:05
successful guys, down there a couple guys to make all CAA
38:09
teams. And in 2019, he actually was a
38:15
Walsh NFL fellowship with the Green Bay Packers.
38:19
They have those throughout some of the former coaches on Tech
38:22
staff has been part of that. That's again, exposure to the
38:25
NFL exposure to more coaching, 2019.
38:31
He followed cignetti down to J mu and clearly, if you follow
38:35
Commonwealth football or the state of the Commonwealth
38:38
football JMU had one hell of a season National runners-up in
38:43
the FCS, he was coaching just the safeties down there, which
38:49
might be a concern to some people but not to me, he had to
38:53
Two first-team CAA safeties. The one thing I see with all, if
38:59
you look at his numbers, his defensive backs are aggressive.
39:04
One of the safeties have six interceptions this year.
39:07
Nice front, let me ask you this. I've got a couple more things I
39:11
want to talk with him, but let me ask you this, he played
39:14
corner, he coached Corner deal on but then he flips the
39:17
safeties. We do see this a lot with
39:20
secondary coaches. Like, you can coach one Coach
39:24
the other and go back. But what's the primary reason
39:27
for that? Why were you see, guys do that?
39:30
I think the big thing that we've been seeing is our rosters kind
39:35
of trending toward that versatility that guy that can do
39:39
a lot of things. Well so I think that's kind of
39:42
part of the the philosophy here but also I think you know,
39:46
you're pointing out it is, it could tell us the story about
39:49
where J Hamm is heading with his philosophy.
39:54
For the secondary getting a guy that you know, is aggressive in
39:59
the secondary, both from safeties and four corners, I
40:03
don't think we're going to see a change in the velocity or trying
40:06
to get these get these guys about to turn over the ball.
40:09
So I think that's still going to be a linchpin of the, the Hokie
40:12
defense is forcing turnovers getting the offense in a good
40:15
position to score some points. Yeah, agreed.
40:19
And thanks for that sort of explanation.
40:21
Another thing I read again, I talked about it.
40:23
I think this was a huge move for recruiting.
40:26
Being a Virginia guy, not only for the state.
40:29
You know, he's primarily going to be covering Richmond area and
40:33
the 757 but I think just overall when you put a got this young
40:37
old staff, you talk about I think a lot of relatability to
40:42
recruits that that has nothing to help.
40:46
We're about to go in the last five years from one of the
40:50
oldest ass in college football that to now we might Be the
40:53
youngest staff in college football but we're not young
40:57
when it comes to years of coaching, and I think the ages
41:03
of number, but the coaching experience is going to be there.
41:06
Now, think we're these guys have been as a key component to
41:09
because you look at some of the stops of these guys.
41:12
You know, they don't necessarily have a ton of experience but
41:15
they've been in behind the doors of some of these really, really
41:20
Key Programs. Some of them, you know, at about
41:22
the same level Us. And some of them are programs
41:27
that were aspiring towards and some like JMU or programs that
41:31
are in the state but have had success in a different level of
41:33
college football. So I think, you know, that
41:35
experience is really, really important.
41:38
Yeah. Now, one guy that does have the
41:40
experience is our new linebackers, coach Tracy claeys.
41:46
Tracy's been coaching over 25 years.
41:50
He's a Jerry kill disciple. Feel like when Jerry killed Came
41:53
in last year he sort of helped back calm the ship after the
41:56
Duke game could have shown a good direction.
42:00
Tracy's been a defensive coordinator over. 20 years
42:04
primarily you take a look at all the stops running for three
42:07
scheme. So kind of fits kind of tells us
42:10
that we're probably not going to be changing our base defense too
42:14
much. When you see that, I don't think
42:18
you bring in a linebackers coach with the 43 scheme.
42:21
That's his background for 20 plus years and say oh we're
42:23
going. Switch to a 34.
42:25
Yeah, but we're not gonna see that now go see that.
42:27
But, but, you know, crazy to me is, is really big.
42:31
If you just kind of look at what he's did throughout his career,
42:33
I'm going to start in really the last couple decades, 2004 with
42:37
Jerry at Southern Illinois. They led the FCS in scoring
42:41
defense at 13.2 few years later in 07, they were Nessie SMI.
42:47
Team semi-final team with another top. 10 defense from
42:52
there, he followed. Jerry killed in Northern
42:54
Illinois, is again where they had success, you know, in their
42:59
2010 team which was their last year at Northern Illinois, him
43:05
as a defensive coordinator, they ranked 14th in Total Defense.
43:08
That ain't shabby, no. You're not playing the best
43:11
competition in the Mac but not shabby.
43:14
From there, they took over the Minnesota program.
43:18
First year, I'm gonna kind of do a rundown just to kind of show
43:21
you where you got that program is now Minnesota.
43:24
They're not getting the recruits.
43:25
We are we're, we're recruiting somewhere between 30 and 20
43:28
primarily Minnesota is more of that.
43:31
What I'm seeing that when Keel was there, that mid-50s to Mid
43:37
40's range, so we're getting more profile, more higher rate,
43:42
guys. But this is kind of what he did.
43:43
They were their first year and 1193 ranked defense.
43:47
Then the next year, forty third ranked defense.
43:51
Then the 24th ranked defense 3443 and then 21.
43:59
So less Talent better conference better competition, not playing
44:05
not having to terrible of Total Defense numbers.
44:11
What do you think? I mean, do you feel the same
44:13
without you feel some? It's some hidden stuff in there,
44:17
Brian. I mean, I think I think those
44:19
are good numbers to throw out there and I think, also, the
44:21
thing to consider is that I didn't Get the offensive
44:24
numbers, but I don't think that in my recollection that
44:27
Minnesota was out there, putting up, 40 points a game so that
44:32
those defensive numbers stand for something because you're
44:34
playing the Ohio, State's and the Penn State's in that, in
44:39
that time frame, that were putting up some per some pretty
44:43
serious points. And that, and still able to put
44:45
out those numbers with that more middle tier recruiting talent
44:51
that definitely speaks to him being able to coach.
44:53
Those guys up and get the most out of the town that he has on
44:56
the roster. So I think you know I don't
44:59
think there's any really - to to speak up in their biggest things
45:03
going to be as Kenny translate that into what J Hamm is trying
45:05
to do greed. Now I'm going to throw one more
45:08
stat out here, 2018, with Wazoo under Mike Leach.
45:12
He had his best defense. They were the number four total
45:15
ranked defense in the country. That was the year.
45:18
I am pretty sure that if they had not been on a snow Laden
45:21
field and Pullman Probably could have beat Washington and went to
45:25
the Rose Bowl, but unfortunately you're on the Air Raid Offense
45:29
and you're playing this so bad things happen, and it did that
45:33
day. Yep.
45:34
Now, thanks did kind of in sour for him at Wazoo in 2019 that
45:40
the defense completely struggled.
45:43
But you doing some research, it looks like there had been a
45:46
significant riff with one of Mike Leach has long time
45:51
defensive back coach has Read some articles from Pullman.
45:55
Looks like this guy was very vocal about things and kind of
45:58
Tracy. Look like he was just kind of
46:00
sick of it and just kind of wrote his resignation, laid it
46:03
on his desk and left and it kind of also spoke to Tracy's
46:09
personality. That this guy was more outgoing
46:13
louder. Where Tracy is more was more of
46:16
a reserved guy in for a new defensive coordinator.
46:22
Having a guy who with significant success coming in
46:25
and you care about like what the other guy did it almost sounds
46:29
like this is going to be a good role for Tracy.
46:31
He doesn't have to be the vocal guy.
46:33
He can be quiet, he can be reserved in the way.
46:36
I really feel like what's going to happen is I think Tracy is
46:42
going to become the sounding board for J Hamm.
46:44
I think you're going to probably hear stories about after games
46:48
looking at tape as they're evaluating guys.
46:52
Jenkins. Let me go into him for things.
46:54
Gout, this much experience. Why wouldn't you?
46:56
He's going to have Bud there too?
46:58
Yep, you can have a plethora of experience to go after.
47:02
And again hearing about traci's personality, think he's that
47:06
right type of significantly older guy to be on staff.
47:09
He's not boisterous, he's not loud.
47:12
He's the other way and where you see Jay, him, full of energy and
47:15
excitement, probably going to be able to rein him in sometimes,
47:18
like pull back a little bit, man, but I really I like to
47:21
Tracy claeys higher concerning. This new staff.
47:26
Yeah, I think it's going to be really good for us, long term.
47:29
It's like you said, sounding board for J Hamm.
47:31
A guy that has has the knowledge has the experience but also
47:36
isn't necessarily somebody that is looking to pad their resume
47:41
at this point of their career. So I think he's a guy that's
47:44
going to be a big asset to J Hamm.
47:48
As he kind of gets more, acclimated to - it's of
47:51
coordinator at this level of college football because he's
47:54
got you nobody can lean on and tracing that you can lean on
47:58
when he when he gets into a situation where you know, he may
48:01
not quite be out of this depth a little bit as being, you know,
48:05
first time coordinator at this level.
48:07
So I think you know, nothing but good things there.
48:11
So Brian, when we're breaking this down, you've got the
48:15
opportunity to look at the two hires that were definitely for
48:19
Hokie Nation more. Exciting TNT.
48:23
And see. Let's start built are on Nick,
48:26
go. All right, so you got to hook
48:29
you fan and a cult fan talking battle, former cult see,
48:33
ffensive assistant, whose father was the Godfather of demons
48:38
arrived and had some of the best defensive line output that the
48:41
Colts have ever had. So this is right in my
48:44
wheelhouse. I'm ready to talk about is let's
48:46
do this. Alright, so he'll tear links so
48:50
big thing for him. Pretty much been in 4-3 defense
48:55
has for the majority of his career.
48:58
So again as we were talking as you talk with Tracy, I don't see
49:02
us changing not naughty dramatic changes to scheme.
49:06
I think it's going to be more subtle as far as
49:08
responsibilities the amount of time we Blitz.
49:12
And then what what some of the some of the calls are going to
49:15
be I think that's going to be where you see the biggest change
49:18
and not any sort of wholesale Flipping of defensive
49:22
philosophies I think we're still going to go with a one Gap
49:26
technique on defense because what what bills worked in has
49:30
been primarily that one Gap defensive technique.
49:34
He wants your lawn your give us a while to get upfield disrupt.
49:38
The running backs angle spill them to the other Defenders that
49:41
can make the tackle and you want to create pressure on pat on
49:44
the, on the passing downs and get that quarterback releasing
49:47
the ball before he's ready to this guy's had some Success in
49:52
his career. Obviously I mentioned being a
49:55
defensive assistant for the Colts when his dad was the
49:57
defensive line coach you know from there I ended up with the
50:02
the bills working as a defensive assistant with Mike waffle.
50:07
Another another one of the another god father of the modern
50:11
defense who loved one get technique.
50:13
So yeah. So yeah like waffles the
50:17
defensive line coach that was with the Giants the year the
50:21
They took down the undefeated Patriots in the Super Bowl.
50:23
So this guy knows how to get defensive lineman up, feeling,
50:26
get pressure even against teams that have really good offensive
50:29
lines, like the Patriots did that year.
50:32
So, That's that's some of the stops he's been on, but I think
50:36
the biggest thing for him is that he did work as an assistant
50:39
defensive line coach with Mike waffles.
50:41
So in the scenario that we have now with, with Darryl, Tapp
50:44
working with him on the, on the defensive line.
50:48
I think he kind of appreciates the dynamic of having two guys
50:52
working in that role and you know what, his role can be and
50:55
what he can do to, you know, help Darrell grow in that role
50:58
as well as far as what we can expect to see from the defensive
51:03
line. I mean, We're going to be I
51:05
think more aggressive at the offensive line, getting up field
51:09
getting in those in those gaps and then disrupting things
51:13
hopefully that doesn't come in a detriment to to the running game
51:17
just because you can sometimes create bigger gaps and it's
51:21
going to be important for linebackers to be able to make
51:25
those tackles in open space. When those gaps, do get bigger
51:29
as a result of getting up feel. But I think it's going to put a
51:33
lot more pressure. Iran on quarterbacks to make
51:36
faster decisions and that's where the aggressiveness at the
51:39
secondary level that you were talking about.
51:42
With Ryan, Smith comes into play and get those turnovers.
51:45
Let me ask this Braun from the tape.
51:48
You looked at, you know, there's, there's a difference
51:51
between having to write for any and Mathis and Lawson, but just
51:55
by looking at it, are you skiing?
51:57
We're okay. Sometimes he depending on the
51:59
players. But there were some times, he
52:01
was doing things skiing wise, where it was like There's going
52:04
to be offensive lines, not ready for some of those different
52:08
looks and the way he, you know, Slants and stunts like things,
52:12
like, they're not going to be prepared for On Any Given
52:14
Saturday. Well, I think the biggest thing
52:17
that and what the bills were doing is that they did a lot of
52:21
show and bail which really makes offensive linemen frustrated,
52:29
you don't. So yeah.
52:30
So so you know you got a guy showing Blitz and they'll bail
52:33
out The dolphins of lime in the center, probably more than
52:36
likely has already made a some sort of check.
52:38
And now, now somebody doesn't have a got a block because the
52:44
Blitz the blister that was showing his bailed out now where
52:47
that comes into big-time plays when a blitz is called.
52:50
But not from the guy showing. So now you've got an offensive
52:53
lineman. That was expected to pick up a
52:55
blitz. That's not coming.
52:56
But now he's also the odd, man that has to find where that
53:00
Blitz is coming from and get there and that Dates, a lot of
53:04
the problems. That's why you go from, have a,
53:06
have a guy running free because you got alignment that's waiting
53:08
on a, on an a gap Blitz. And now this Center has to get
53:13
outside and get to the outside linebacker that ended up being
53:15
the guy that's blitzing, who do you think on the team right now?
53:22
And I'll, and I'll put it at the defensive line primarily.
53:26
Who do you think? Are we going to see the biggest
53:28
growth next year with just having Carol, Nick?
53:33
And His defensive line coach, I think you're going to see a lot
53:37
more disruption from the defensive.
53:39
Tackles I think with the rotation that we have now and
53:44
with some of the younger guys, getting another year in the way
53:47
around. When we started started a couple
53:49
guys, right out the gate that hadn't really been in the weight
53:54
room hadn't, been a part of our program and they were
53:57
contributing significant snaps. So I think, you know, I think
54:02
like, I like, Like food is good is going to really benefit from
54:08
this from this new scheme because he's a guy that has had
54:11
some size on them already, but he's athletic and he can get up
54:14
field and disrupt those running plays and still get after the
54:18
quarterback as well. So I think you might see him,
54:21
get some more rotation this year.
54:23
On top of the fact these you know Heather had a year in the
54:26
weight room with us but the just his build and his his ability to
54:30
get get into the backfield is going to, I think pay dividends
54:34
With What feelings trying to do. Nice.
54:38
All right, we're going to move on.
54:39
And obviously, the last guy we're going to talk about.
54:45
It's Darryl Tapp and he needs really no introduction to Hokie
54:49
Nation. But I'm going to give him one
54:50
anyway, he shouldn't if you've been a fan for any significant
54:53
bill that you don't know. Darryl Tapp is, I question your
54:57
fan of the Hokie Nation. I'm sitting in my office right
55:00
now. I've got a son Darryl Darryl,
55:02
Tapp pendants. Behind me.
55:04
So I'm a big Darryl, Tapp believer right here so you know
55:09
we're talking to Tom all-acc first team.
55:12
ER drafted in 2006 12-year NFL career with six different teams,
55:18
definition of lunch pail mentality, hard hat mentality
55:23
said you're not going to outwork me.
55:25
I'm going to keep this lunch pail.
55:27
The whole year. You're not going to work.
55:29
You never gave it up. We joke with him about that and
55:32
he was like, yeah it was mine. I kept the lunch pail when he
55:38
got drafted. I mean this guy can do it all
55:41
and I mean, doing my research, I was looking so me and him share
55:46
one thing in common, at least part of the 600 back squats.
55:49
Love these 660. I got 600.
55:53
So we're both in the 600 class. We got asked out to celebrate
55:58
that on big squat Friday. Absolutely.
56:00
We have to but I mean from a On the field perspective.
56:04
And from a recruiting perspective on the field, I
56:07
think what he's going to bring his, he's going to challenge
56:09
these kids to work harder and I think his pedigree is not just
56:14
words. He's shown it on the field, he's
56:16
shown it in practice, he's shown it with with, with the lunch
56:20
pail, this guy's not going to get out worked and I think
56:23
that's going to inspire the kids in terms of how hard they work
56:26
both in the weight room and on the field you know, to never
56:28
quit. So I think that's that's the
56:30
biggest thing out the gate that he's going to provide for man on
56:33
the field. Perspective, is that extra
56:35
motivation to get more out of these guys?
56:38
And they think they can really get out of themselves from a
56:41
recruiting standpoint. I mean, he's ruled it does, it
56:45
doesn't get much better. I mean, you've got a guy came
56:48
from the 757 was a Hopi Legend been in the NFL and now he's
56:54
talking to guys from where he grew up and saying, hey, you can
56:57
be like me. Let's go do this.
56:59
Absolutely, and indeed it is it's any school he walks in
57:03
down. They're the credibility's there
57:06
again, all-acc All-American drafted, 12 years in the NFL so
57:11
much of that stuff. You know what can what can you
57:15
know some coach say like well I don't think you should go there
57:17
the kid would side. I look him but this is a unique
57:21
perspective for you because you when you played in college you
57:26
kind of are going to be in the you were kind of in the same
57:29
shoes as the defensive line kids who are this year.
57:33
Is because of your go ahead, explain who you had because mean
57:38
in an NFL got hit it guys. Yes.
57:40
Well, Championship. Coming with the difference is
57:43
when a guy like that is talking to you, so I'll paint you a
57:46
picture here. So I'm makes the last game of my
57:49
senior year, I tear up my ankle for five months.
57:53
Recovery at that point. I was, you know, maybe hoping
57:58
and hoping to get a school like J mu or we were married to say,
58:02
hey, come walk on for us. Us.
58:04
So I was pretty much at that point thinking.
58:07
Yeah, I'm probably not going to play football anymore, you know,
58:10
I was getting a lot of calls from division, three schools,
58:12
but I just wasn't quite sure that that was going to be a good
58:14
choice for me. But ultimately I got a note from
58:18
Keith conlon, it's coach for hand and Sydney's coaching
58:21
offensive line. Come to find out.
58:23
That keep conlon was a offensive, lineman for Penn
58:27
State and won a national championship with Joe Papp and
58:32
was drafted by the Colts and then played for the Saskatchewan
58:38
Roughriders for a couple years before getting back into the
58:41
coaching ranks. So that kind of that kind of
58:44
spoke to me a little I was like, okay, well we got we got a guy
58:47
with that's been on that journey and he's working with this coach
58:51
at him and Sydney trying to build something that's got to
58:54
spend, that's got to count for something.
58:55
So, you know that guy be in the building and just talking with
58:58
him and talking with his journey and talk about what, what coach
59:02
Marty fabric was trying to do. With him and Sydney that that
59:05
sold me and I ended up playing the hand and Sydney.
59:07
So You know, I was at a point where I wasn't sure if I was
59:11
ever going to lay some up again and all of a sudden you know get
59:15
get another good three seasons playing the games I love because
59:19
of a guy like him and I think Darryl Tapp is going to have a
59:23
similar type influence on some of the kids that that he's going
59:26
to talk to you both in the 757 and really any recruits and he's
59:29
going to talk to on the road. Very nice.
59:32
So we're going to be putting out a Twitter poll guys and what
59:37
it's going to say is which of these You coaches Ron Smith,
59:41
Tracy claeys built tunic or Darryl Tapp we see impact game.
59:46
One the most my votes going to be for Ryan Smith.
59:50
I think a having to remain waller or Mighty Chapman, Halo
59:55
Farley to a lesser extent tamari Connor.
1:00:00
He's going in there with proven guys and I think guys, he can
1:00:04
immediately say I trust from day one.
1:00:06
I think that's my vote and I will Vote on there.
1:00:09
Of course. What about you Ron?
1:00:12
I'm gonna go with out the gate as far as on the field.
1:00:14
I'm going to go build your link. I think what he's going to bring
1:00:18
to the table of getting those guys ready and just from a
1:00:21
technique and skiing perspective, I think you're
1:00:23
going to see a lot more disruption in the backfield
1:00:26
Scott. I think you're going to see
1:00:27
sacks go up and that's a direct correlation.
1:00:29
You're going to see turnovers, go up whether we're talking
1:00:33
strips Acts or whether we're talking interceptions, because
1:00:36
quarterbacks are letting the ball loose before they're ready
1:00:38
to make the right decision. Great buy, anything else?
1:00:41
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1:00:45
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