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DIDDYFIED: SEAN COMBS ASSISTANT SO STRESSED SHE GOES BALD · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: Straight out to the courthouse, Standing by Lauren Knlin, investigative
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Speaker 2: reporter and host of Pop Crime TV. Lauren, thank you
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Speaker 2: for being with us. You've been in the courtroom all day.
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Speaker 1: What happened? Start at the beginning, Nancy.
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Speaker 3: We heard testimony from Capricorn Clark and she was Ditty's
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Speaker 3: personal assistant at one point. She was a global marketing manager,
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Speaker 3: a brand ambassador and also was Cassi Evan TURA's brand
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Speaker 3: marketing manager. And she worked on and off for Diddy
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Speaker 3: from two thousand and four up until twenty eighteen. And
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Speaker 3: her testimony, Nancy was very powerful. She has witnessed a
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Speaker 3: lot of different incidents and she was the assistant that
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Speaker 3: Diddy kidnapped at gunpoint to allegedly go and quote kill
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Speaker 3: kid Cuddy. And these are words from Capricorn Clark herself
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Speaker 3: on the stand. She was awoken at five or six
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Speaker 3: am and it was Diddy at her door. She said
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Speaker 3: he had a gun. He came into her house and
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Speaker 3: he told her that they were going to go and
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Speaker 3: kill kid Cuddy. Not only that, Nancy, she talked about
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Speaker 3: how one of her friends had a baby with Shooge
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Speaker 3: night and on her first day did he brought her
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Speaker 3: into Central Park after nine pm with a bodyguard and
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Speaker 3: basically said that he would have to kill her if
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Speaker 3: anything happened when it came to Shug. She also testified
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Speaker 3: that she witnessed him talking to fifty Cents manager in
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Speaker 3: an elevator. And this is someone named Chris Lady, who
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Speaker 3: was also his manager at the time. They were doing
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Speaker 3: some kind of MTV press thing and in the elevator
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Speaker 3: he had a problem with fifty Cent and he told
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Speaker 3: his manager, I don't like this back and forth. I
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Speaker 3: prefer guns. She testified that she got alopecia from stress
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Speaker 3: from working from eight am to four am, and at
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Speaker 3: one point she testified that she went to HR about
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Speaker 3: overtime and the HR person calculated about eighty thousand dollars
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Speaker 3: that she was owed in overtime, and Capricorn Clark testified
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Speaker 3: that he ripped it up. Now. Some of the most
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Speaker 3: heart wrenching testimony that she gave today was after the
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Speaker 3: Kid Cutty incident, when she was at Sean Colmes's house
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Speaker 3: with Cassie Ventura. She testified that he kicked Cassie over
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Speaker 3: and over and over again until she was on the
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Speaker 3: ground in a fetal position, and she said that each
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Speaker 3: time he would kick her, Cassie would take a few
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Speaker 3: steps back, and they started this. He started his meat
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Speaker 3: down in the house and they ended up on the street.
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Speaker 3: And she testified that she, you know, she called different
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Speaker 3: bodyguards when the bodyguard on duty wasn't doing anything, and
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Speaker 3: she said, you know, help her, help her. And then
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Speaker 3: when Diddy finally kicked her out of the house that day,
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Speaker 3: she called Regina Ventura and she was very tearful on
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Speaker 3: the stand when she said this. She said, he is
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Speaker 3: beating the living crap out of your daughter. And I'm paraphrasing,
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Speaker 3: and she said, I can't do anything. I am in
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Speaker 3: over my head. You need to do something. And it was,
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Speaker 3: I mean, the jury was I could tell they were
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Speaker 3: writing things down. They were on the edge of their seat.
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Speaker 3: It was very very dramatic.
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Speaker 1: Nancy Lauren Collin joining us at the courthouse.
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Speaker 2: So, first of all, Capricorn says that working for Diddy
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Speaker 2: was making her go bald.
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Speaker 1: She was losing her hair.
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Speaker 3: Yes, she said that she developed a condition called alopecia,
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Speaker 3: and the doctor basically said, you need less stress in
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Speaker 3: your life to try to manage this.
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Speaker 2: Is it true, Lauren that, according to her sworn testimony,
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Speaker 2: that Shawn Combs fired her for not ritting out Cassie
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Speaker 2: dating kid Cuddy.
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Speaker 3: Yes, she describes being terminated multiple times. At one point
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Speaker 3: in two thousand and four, she said she was briefly
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Speaker 3: terminated over a girlfriend Diddy had, and then in twenty
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Speaker 3: twelve she was terminated over Cassie. But she said that
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Speaker 3: the what the the excuse they used was that she
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Speaker 3: didn't get a vacation authorized or something like that, but
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Speaker 3: really she she knew it was because of Cassie.
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Speaker 1: Capricorn.
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Speaker 2: Clark says on the stand, quote, I lost everything, And
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Speaker 2: she is talking about all of her employment benefits, like
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Speaker 2: her four oh one K, her health insurance all down
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Speaker 2: the crapper, And isn't it true that comes according to
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Speaker 2: her using infamous words, you'll never work.
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Speaker 1: In this town again.
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Speaker 2: All these people aren't your friends, and that he would
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Speaker 2: make her kill herself.
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Speaker 3: He said that she'd never work in this town again.
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Speaker 3: And she actually testified that she was able to land
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Speaker 3: a job and then that job fell through. And yes,
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Speaker 3: at another point he when he was making threats to her,
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Speaker 3: she said there was something like fifty threats between the
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Speaker 3: incident with kid Cutty up until she was fired, which
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Speaker 3: is a few months later. She said, there was about
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Speaker 3: fifty different threats, and yes, one of them was you know,
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Speaker 3: I hope you kill yourself or something along those lines.
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Speaker 2: According to to the testimonies we are as we were
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Speaker 2: hearing it from the witness stand, he said Shancombe said
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Speaker 2: that he would make her kill her self, and then
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Speaker 2: in a later conversation, he says he's quizzing her capricorn
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Speaker 2: claw about what she knew regarding Venture's relationship with Kid Cuddy,
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Speaker 2: questioning exactly what she knew when she knew it. He
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Speaker 2: gets angry, of course and says, quote, I should kill
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Speaker 2: you bitches.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and she also described something that to me it
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Speaker 3: was out of a horror movie. But when she was
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Speaker 3: in the car and Diddy was inside Kid Cutty's house
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Speaker 3: with a security guard or an associate, she said that
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Speaker 3: she made a call to Cathy's burner phone, and after
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Speaker 3: she called Cassie on this burner number, she quickly changed
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Speaker 3: it to her friend's name, And when Diddy got back
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Speaker 3: in the car and she hung up, he said, who
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Speaker 3: are you on the phone? With and she said, my friend.
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Speaker 3: He took her phone and he called the number back
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Speaker 3: and he realized it was Cassie, and she said that
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Speaker 3: he was angrier than he was even showing up to
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Speaker 3: her house that night, and she was terrified.
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Speaker 2: Another thing that we learned from Capricorn Clark on the
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Speaker 2: Stand a long time Diddy protege, is that these are.
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Speaker 1: Her words, not mine.
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Speaker 2: After the kid cutting incident, following the break in, when
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Speaker 2: Shawn comes goes in to his Love Rivals apartment and
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Speaker 2: starts opening up Chanelle gift bags.
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Speaker 1: From under the Christmas tree to see what he was
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Speaker 1: going to give Cassie.
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Speaker 2: For Christmas, Capricorn Clark tells the court that after that
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Speaker 2: comes quote, came at Cassie one hundred percent full force,
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent full force, kicking her while she crouched,
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Speaker 2: getting more and more in a fetal position, Cassie crying
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Speaker 2: and comes kicking her over and over and over.
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Speaker 1: Is that right?
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Speaker 3: Yes? That was so difficult to hear in the court room.
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Speaker 3: Let me tell you that was that was tough. And
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Speaker 3: that was when she testified that Cassie would be crying,
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Speaker 3: taking a few steps back as he would kick her,
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Speaker 3: and they wound up in the street starting from the
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Speaker 3: house now Capricorn Clark, by the way. She also testified
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Speaker 3: about an incident where she was at one of his homes.
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Speaker 3: I believe it was his Miami home, and she made
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Speaker 3: a comment she was exhausted, something like in front of
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Speaker 3: the chef, you know, she said, I hate it here,
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Speaker 3: and the chef told this to Diddy, and Ditty freaked out,
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Speaker 3: and she described him using seventy percent of his force
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Speaker 3: to shove her in the shoulders all the way back
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Speaker 3: out of his house. She described herself being shoved about
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Speaker 3: thirty yards back through the butler door from the kitchen,
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Speaker 3: and he just said, you know, get the f out,
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Speaker 3: Get the f out now.
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Speaker 2: She also stated that she did not personally intervene when
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Speaker 2: Ventura was taking these beatings because she was convinced comes
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Speaker 2: with in turn on her and beat her the same way.
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Speaker 3: He actually said that, he said something like, you know,
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Speaker 3: don't even think about it, or I'm going to open
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Speaker 3: this up on you.
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Speaker 1: How is the courtroom reacting to Capricorn Clark's testimony.
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Speaker 3: I mean it was intense. You could hear a pin drop.
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Speaker 3: I saw the jury's faces going back to the lawyer
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Speaker 3: back to Capricorn Clark and then just writing things down.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I have to say that this testimony, in
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Speaker 3: my opinion, was one of the strongest that we've heard
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Speaker 3: thus far.
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Speaker 4: She was so.
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Speaker 3: Credible and so disturbed, and you know, but she also
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Speaker 3: had this this thing about her where she would say,
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Speaker 3: you know, it's complicated, and it was. It was very genuine.
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Speaker 3: She was genuinely scared. She felt genuinely trapped, and these
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Speaker 3: are her words, but you could also see it coming
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Speaker 3: out in her emotions and everything she said about the
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Speaker 3: knife that she she got kidnapped, You kind of could
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Speaker 3: imagine yourself being in her position because she was just
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Speaker 3: very detailed in her her her storytelling, and nothing seemed
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Speaker 3: to waiver. She was very confident, she remembered everything, and
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Speaker 3: if she didn't, you know, she would be upfront about
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Speaker 3: it and forthright. She was very cooperative and again just
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Speaker 3: I mean, it was emotional, It was emotional, and it
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Speaker 3: was scary.
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Speaker 2: Didn't She also testify Lauren Conlin that Shawn Colbs actually
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Speaker 2: hailed her Capricorn Clark hostage until Cassie Venturra would come
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Speaker 2: over after the kid Cutty incident.
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Speaker 3: So she described after they left Kid Cutty's house, they
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Speaker 3: stopped at this club and he Shawn Holmes got out
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Speaker 3: of the car. She stayed in the car, and he
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Speaker 3: instructed her to call Cassie and tell Cassie that if
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Speaker 3: she doesn't come to Seawan Colmes's house, that he would
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Speaker 3: not let Capricorn Clark go. And so Clark said that
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Speaker 3: Cassie appeared very very calm and demeanor on the phone,
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Speaker 3: and she said, I'll be right there joining us.
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Speaker 2: In addition to Lauren Colin from Pop Crime TV standing
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Speaker 2: by at the courthouse, full panel of experts straight out
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Speaker 2: to Greg Morse, veteran criminal defense attorney at Morse Legal,
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Speaker 2: author of the Untested on Amazon. You know, Morse, you
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Speaker 2: keep saying, over and over, it's like the chorus of
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Speaker 2: a hymn at a Methodist charge. We're singing it again
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Speaker 2: and again. You keep saying, yes, they've proven he's a horrible, vile,
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Speaker 2: despicable person, but have they proven sex trafficking or criminal enterprise?
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Speaker 2: Can you actually say with a straight face that all
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Speaker 2: of these employees doing his bidding for criminal reasons does
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Speaker 2: not equal a criminal enterprise.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't equal a criminal enterprise. As to how
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Speaker 5: he's charged. He's charged with a running a criminal enterprise
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Speaker 5: to commit sex trafficking by forcer coercion. These people testified again, yeah,
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Speaker 5: to acts that are horrible. Okay, so they had to
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Speaker 5: undergo a lie detector. What does that have to do
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Speaker 5: with a criminal enterprise. The main part of the government's
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Speaker 5: case that's missing.
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Speaker 2: Is the first baking into his house, beating someone, if
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Speaker 2: they won't do a freak off, all those are crimes.
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Speaker 5: Well, there's no evidence that Cassie was beaten, so she
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Speaker 5: would do a freak off. She actually said the opposite.
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Speaker 6: That's all.
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Speaker 5: My point is that all of these facts, the explosion
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Speaker 5: of the car, none of that has been linked to
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Speaker 5: force broader coersion, to force Cassie Ventura into sex trafficking.
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Speaker 6: She actually said the opposite.
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Speaker 5: What makes it difficult and why the defense is probably
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Speaker 5: not going to win, is they have to defend so
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Speaker 5: many horrible acts.
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Speaker 6: They have to defend an.
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Speaker 5: Arson, a car bomb, even though he was in charged
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Speaker 5: and no matter what you say about that, it takes
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Speaker 5: its toll on the jury against the defendant. But in
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Speaker 5: this particular case, there's been no evidence still that this
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Speaker 5: is all done to sex traffic. What it sounds like
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Speaker 5: to me is Sean Holmes music. He wanted to live
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Speaker 5: the lifestyle that he and his artist wrapped about, but
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Speaker 5: he's just not that type of guy. So he pretended
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Speaker 5: to be a tough guy. And that's all he is,
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Speaker 5: is a pretend tough guy. And that's what this evidence shows.
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Speaker 2: I'm so tempted to cut your mic, but I want
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Speaker 2: to see your face when I read what is in
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Speaker 2: the five count indictment. Prosecutors state that comes quote relied
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Speaker 2: on employees, resources, and influence of a multifaceted business, creating
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Speaker 2: an enterprise whose members and associates engaged in, among other things, sex, trafficking,
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Speaker 2: forced labor, kidnapping, arson, bribery, and obstruction. We have the
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Speaker 2: arson of kid cutties car. He had someone create a
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Speaker 2: Molotov cocktail and throw it. Obstruction, bribery occurred, and that
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Speaker 2: guy's caught on video. The guy that answered the call
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Speaker 2: at the Intercontinental Hotel, he tried to bribe him with
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Speaker 2: a big stack of money. We've heard that testimony on
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Speaker 2: the stand. Forced labor. You've just heard of what Capricorn
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Speaker 2: Clark testified to along with other assistants. The state is
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Speaker 2: making out the reco case right there. Well, when you
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Speaker 2: have employees and you use your business resources like your
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Speaker 2: credit card or your employees or your accountant to send
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Speaker 2: an extortion threat to Cassie's mother we heard about last week.
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Speaker 2: The accountant did that and gave instructions on how to
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Speaker 2: wire the blackmail money.
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Speaker 1: For Pete's sake.
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Speaker 2: He's using his business, his business employees, his business resources
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Speaker 2: to affect crimes.
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Speaker 1: That's what a criminal enterprise is.
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Speaker 6: But it's not just any crime.
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Speaker 5: They charged it as sex trafficking. You can't just have
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Speaker 5: maybe it's okay.
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Speaker 6: His purpose was to sell drugs.
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Speaker 5: His purpose was to steal identity that.
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Speaker 1: Is mine, Lynn Shaw. I still hear him. Why is
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Speaker 1: that happening?
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Speaker 2: I saw joining me founder director Lann's Warriors dedicated to
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Speaker 2: ending sex trafficking. Could you take Greg Morris to school
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Speaker 2: now on sex trafficking?
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Speaker 7: Let me tell you something, Greg, this is the prime
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Speaker 7: example of how many lawyers and the justice system do
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Speaker 7: not understand what victims, survivors of this exploitation and years
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Speaker 7: of it go through. This is the biggest problem we
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Speaker 7: have when we're in the courts. Nobody understands vulnerable people.
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Speaker 7: I don't care what they said in text messages, what
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Speaker 7: they say out loud. They're not understanding the psychological damage
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Speaker 7: and how people play out these victims of all of this.
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Speaker 7: This is being laid out for a criminal enterprise. Triple
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Speaker 7: D because I'm naming him now, Dirty Diddy Degenerate as
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Speaker 7: of today is part of a whole crime syndicate. I
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Speaker 7: don't know, forced labor. I mean that's part of human trafficking.
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Speaker 7: This is going to be a reco case, Okay, laying
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Speaker 7: out all of this. I am tired of everybody not
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Speaker 7: understand danding about the victims and survivors. I'm tired of
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Speaker 7: everybody defending these these criminals or I guess I'm supposed
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Speaker 7: to say alleged criminals, but everybody, and Greg included, come
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Speaker 7: on now, come to the Warriors School and let me
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Speaker 7: teach you about victims and survivors because we have to change.
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Speaker 7: We have to change this all up right now.
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Speaker 2: It was Memorial Day this past weekend, and I don't
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Speaker 2: know what you did, but I know what Diddy did.
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Speaker 1: Shawn comes behind bars. Listen.
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Speaker 8: Diddy rings in his first Memorial Day behind bars, a
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Speaker 8: far cry from his days at throwing Sarrock sponsored yacht parties.
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Speaker 8: Sean Combs may have celebrated the long weekend with some
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Speaker 8: friendly cell block competition and mate's allowed to play three
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Speaker 8: on three basketball, board games, spades or dominoes. Comes enjoyed
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Speaker 8: fruit and cereal for breakfast, barbecue chicken with mac and cheese,
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Speaker 8: and a holiday deserve for lunch, and chicken and rice
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Speaker 8: with whole wheat bread for dinner.
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Speaker 2: Barbecue chicken, board games, friendly cell block competition, three on
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Speaker 2: three mac and cheese, holiday dessert, Lynn Shaw, while he.
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Speaker 1: Is living the life in his dorm style unit.
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Speaker 2: How do you think those women that were allegedly drugged
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Speaker 2: and their drinks stripped, raped and sodomized on video, and
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Speaker 2: then later that video was held over their heads for
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Speaker 2: extortion according to the prosecution, how do you think they
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Speaker 2: feel about Diddy King Shawn Comes, King of the cell block,
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Speaker 2: getting served barbecue chicken and playing three on three and
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Speaker 2: having a special holiday dessert.
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Speaker 7: You know what, Nancy, I am so embarrassed that all
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Speaker 7: of these victims, you know, all of these survivors have
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Speaker 7: to hear about this. What happened to the good old
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Speaker 7: days where you had to scrub out the cells and
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Speaker 7: clean the toilets and things like that, you know, wash
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Speaker 7: the floors with a toothbrush. This is what this guy
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Speaker 7: deserves because all of these victims, and I'm going to
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Speaker 7: remind everybody a lot of them have never come forward.
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Speaker 7: They'd rather just disappear, forget about it. They're too scared.
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Speaker 7: So you know what, I don't care. Give them bad
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Speaker 7: tuna fish. Let him get you know, some food poisoning.
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Speaker 7: We can't focus on this. Let us keep our focus
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Speaker 7: again on victims and survivors.
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Speaker 3: I don't care.
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Speaker 7: He should get nothing, nothing, nothing. He should be doing
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Speaker 7: some sort of community service within the jail or something.
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Speaker 7: I don't want to hear about his macaroni and cheese
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Speaker 7: and his Barbaca chicken.
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Speaker 1: That's a lot with Are you kidding, Lynn Shaw?
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Speaker 2: Yes, because tonight we're learning exactly how badly he trusted
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Speaker 2: his hotel rooms.
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Speaker 1: Listen.
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Speaker 9: Former assistant George Kaplan testifies no one specifically instructed him
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Speaker 9: to clean up Frank Black's hotel rooms, but Kaplan did
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Speaker 9: not trust hotel staff with Comb's privacy and felt it
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Speaker 9: was his responsibility to protect his boss's public image. Kaplan says,
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Speaker 9: you would pick up empty bottles of baby oil liquor
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Speaker 9: and read and occasionally get rid of drugs ahead of
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Speaker 9: cleaning staff arriving. To make sure no one learned anything
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Speaker 9: about the mogul. He didn't want them to know.
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Speaker 2: And that is why to renounce Psychoanalyst joining us out
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Speaker 2: of LA Doctor Bethany Marshall. This weekend, I invested in
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Speaker 2: a hotel ditty stick. Why because Shawn Colmbs would have
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Speaker 2: his employees, his assistants go wade through all that baby oil,
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Speaker 2: bodily fluids, sperm, sweat and more. Think about it, rape, sodomy,
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Speaker 2: people drinking, people doing drugs, Shawn Combs sitting back, talking
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Speaker 2: on the phone and masturbating during all of this.
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Speaker 1: Directing the whole thing.
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Speaker 2: Then he would, after all of that and everybody goes home,
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Speaker 2: the assistance would have to come in and clean up
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Speaker 2: because they did not want Shawn Combs's image tarnished. So
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Speaker 2: what does that mean to me, Doctor Bethany Marshall. That
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Speaker 2: means that before I go to the Hermitage or I
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Speaker 2: go to the Intercontinental, I'm taking my hotel diddy wand
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Speaker 2: my ditty stick can pick up all of those germs
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Speaker 2: and clean it with ultraviolet rays. I didn't put any
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Speaker 2: stock into this until I started investigating this case, and
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Speaker 2: so then they would go Dtor Bethany and make the
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Speaker 2: assistance go and like fluff the pillows and arrange them
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Speaker 2: so the future guests and the hotel employees would come
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Speaker 2: in and.
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Speaker 1: Not know what had just happened.
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Speaker 2: You think I'm going to go sit on a sofa
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Speaker 2: in that hotel room, No, HBLN. Neither me or the
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Speaker 2: twins are sitting on that sofa after Dinny's had a.
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Speaker 1: Freak off in there. They kept me flump the pillows
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Speaker 1: all they want to.
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Speaker 4: I'm never gonna look at a hotel room in the
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Speaker 4: same way again. I'm never gonna lie on a comforter cover.
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Speaker 4: I will never go say it the Four Seasons or
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Speaker 4: the Intercontinental, which by the way, is just down the
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Speaker 4: road from my my Beverly Hills office. You know, Nancy,
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Speaker 4: he abused everybody on every level. Even the making people
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Speaker 4: go in and clean up all these bodily fluids is
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Speaker 4: yet another form of abuse he abused.
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Speaker 2: In every I mean, you're an LA psycho analyst. Certainly
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Speaker 2: you've had to say the word sperm urine faces.
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Speaker 1: These ways, you know what. Listen.
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Speaker 10: Friedrich Zimour, the manager of Le Air Mettage Hotel in
20:41
Speaker 10: Beverly Hills discussed Sean Combs's history of reservations. Combs opened
20:45
Speaker 10: an account in two thousand and six, but three years
20:47
Speaker 10: later the name was changed to Jackie Starr, then Frank White,
20:51
Speaker 10: then Frank Black, and Ryan Lopez. The notes stayed the same.
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Speaker 10: Number one monitor outside the room to spray air freshener.
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Speaker 10: Number two place the room out of order upon departure
21:02
Speaker 10: for deep cleaning, always spills candlewax on everything and uses
21:08
Speaker 10: excessive amounts of oil. And number three please authorize an
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Speaker 10: extra one thousand dollars at check in to cover room damages.
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Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, Robert Crispin joining me, former
21:30
Speaker 2: vice former homicide, former Federal Task Force officer, US Department
21:34
Speaker 2: of Justice, blah blah blah blah. Now Crispin special Investigations. Crispin,
21:39
Speaker 2: you know what. I go right up to that jury
21:42
Speaker 2: and I.
21:43
Speaker 1: Would show them the hotel notes.
21:45
Speaker 2: Diss wait a minute, it says it all and then
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Speaker 2: case closed monitor outside the room to spray air freshen
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Speaker 2: These are in the notes when Shawn comes would check
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Speaker 2: into the Lamtage place room out of order. A one
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Speaker 2: comes departure for deep deep cleaning, always in caps.
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Speaker 1: Always, Yeah, let's look at him.
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Speaker 2: Always spills candle wax on everything and uses excessive amounts
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Speaker 2: of oil. And please authorize an extra one thousand dollars
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Speaker 2: at check in to cover room damages. Okay, you need
22:23
Speaker 2: to go out and get one of these. Okay, I'm
22:25
Speaker 2: telling you, because this thing lights up and it catches
22:30
Speaker 2: all of Sean comes his bodily fluids that he left
22:33
Speaker 2: on the sofas before he made his assistant fluff the pillows.
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Speaker 2: I mean that State's exhibit number one right there. That's disgusting.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, so that's some pretty damning evidence when you have
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Speaker 11: handwritten notes about certain things to do. And I'm sure
22:48
Speaker 11: back here at his house here on Star Island in
22:50
Speaker 11: Miami Beach, this was a plethor of that activity year.
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Speaker 11: And I can only imagine the cleanup for this size
22:59
Speaker 11: of house versus is.
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Speaker 6: A hotel room. Quite the difference.
23:03
Speaker 2: And so, Greg Morse, you're telling me, I can't even
23:06
Speaker 2: imagine the Pandora's box of germs behind Robert Crispin and
23:12
Speaker 2: that Miami.
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Speaker 1: Mansion which was also subject to a raid.
23:16
Speaker 2: Greg Moore, so you're telling me that Sean Combs employees
23:22
Speaker 2: willingly cleaned up his bodily fluids as like putting perfume
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Speaker 2: on the pig, his sperm, his sweat, victims bodily fluids.
23:34
Speaker 1: After rape and sodomy.
23:36
Speaker 6: What it was their job.
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Speaker 12: They were.
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Speaker 2: Paid by the company to clean up after the freak offs,
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Speaker 2: which is using the company's resources to enterprise and of itself.
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Speaker 5: This is all the senses it adds for using a
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Speaker 5: motel six instead of a high end hotel. This is
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Speaker 5: not illegal in and of itself, as long as Cassie
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Speaker 5: and the other people keep saying I did this consensually,
24:04
Speaker 5: maybe I didn't like it.
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Speaker 6: She literally said that.
24:07
Speaker 5: In fact, one of the sex workers even said Cassie
24:12
Speaker 5: paid me and she seemed fine. So you're taking information that, frankly,
24:17
Speaker 5: a lot f fine.
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Speaker 2: She's saying dying Benny Marshall, because she would be beaten
24:23
Speaker 2: out of regard if she didn't.
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Speaker 4: She seemed fine, Nancy, because she was dissociated and he
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Speaker 4: was keeping her addicted. She tried to go to rehab
24:31
Speaker 4: five different times and he kept bringing her back. Nancy.
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Speaker 4: This was a reign of terror. This is so far,
24:38
Speaker 4: so much more than a criminal enterprise. This is like
24:41
Speaker 4: a sex cult. And Nancy, there's a drug that has
24:44
Speaker 4: not been mentioned at all that I can hear, and
24:48
Speaker 4: that is steroids, if we can think of that as
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Speaker 4: a drug. He puts so much energy into terrorizing, kidnapping,
24:56
Speaker 4: spilling bodily fluids all over the place, and it puts
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Speaker 4: a lot all that energy at all, that rage seems
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Speaker 4: to me like he's rooted out most of the time.
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Speaker 9: Cassie says Colmes wanted her glistening at all times and
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Speaker 9: had her reapply heated baby oil as often as every
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Speaker 9: five minutes, and during one performance, even made her get
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Speaker 9: into a.
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Speaker 1: Kiddie pool of baby oil.
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Speaker 9: Afterwards, staff members were charged with cleaning up but with
25:22
Speaker 9: baby oil and bodily fluids all over the floors, walls,
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Speaker 9: and door handles. Combs was frequently charged for damages to
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Speaker 9: hotel rooms. Negotiations handled by Comb's assistants dirty Ditty disciples.
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Speaker 4: Diddy was menacing, threatening, intimidating.
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Speaker 11: And its influence and it's his power that controlled them.
25:44
Speaker 4: They are terrified of him.
25:46
Speaker 2: Is Diddy's world and we're all just living in it,
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Speaker 2: not joining us. Tonight, a very special guest known by
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Speaker 2: Minnie as quote the pun assured that's a moniker.
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Speaker 1: His real name Sharray Hayes. Mister Hayes, thank you for
26:00
Speaker 1: being with us.
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Speaker 6: Oh my pleasure. Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 1: Mister Hayes.
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Speaker 2: When did you first learn that your former client, Shaun
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Speaker 2: Comes had been indicted in the multi count federal indictment
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Speaker 2: for sex trafficking.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I was contacted probably about me and four months
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Speaker 13: prior to.
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Speaker 6: The charge is actually coming about. Believe it or not.
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Speaker 13: I had a lighthearted conversation initially with the federal investigators.
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Speaker 2: That I find that very hard to believe the fans
26:29
Speaker 2: had a lighthearted conversation.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean by that?
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Speaker 13: Well, I was told that I was one of hundreds
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Speaker 13: of people that would being an interviewed. They were just
26:38
Speaker 13: doing their due diligence, and you know, it was a
26:41
Speaker 13: brief of They just wanted a brief summary of what
26:45
Speaker 13: my interactions was. Me personally, I never thought my involvement
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Speaker 13: was significant, so I kind of just said, hey, guys,
26:52
Speaker 13: I don't really have much for you.
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Speaker 6: I was in state. I understood trafficking had to be
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Speaker 6: out of state scenario.
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Speaker 13: And I also told him I didn't see any aggression,
27:04
Speaker 13: any physical abuse, anything to that degree, so I was
27:07
Speaker 13: kind of unaware of my involvement. So the conversation was brief,
27:12
Speaker 13: about twenty minutes at my apartment, and I never even
27:15
Speaker 13: thought I would hear from anybody again.
27:17
Speaker 1: Well, I've got a question.
27:19
Speaker 2: If everything was normal, and your job with Sean Combs,
27:24
Speaker 2: your sex job with him, was just like every other job,
27:28
Speaker 2: then why did you lose your erection and couldn't perform well.
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Speaker 6: Like every other job? Is out of context.
27:36
Speaker 13: I was a maleshipper, so sex work wasn't something that
27:39
Speaker 13: I did for a living, So it was completely out
27:43
Speaker 13: of my zone to be in a scenario with a
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Speaker 13: woman who at the time I thought it was her
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Speaker 13: husband being in a room being a part.
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Speaker 6: Of a sexual activity.
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Speaker 13: Especially in the scenario that I described, he had on
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Speaker 13: a burke a veil over his face.
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Speaker 2: He'sid, okay, I want to see his face place poo woa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Speaker 2: Do you prefer to be called Chera, mister Hayes, or
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Speaker 2: the punisher?
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Speaker 13: Believe it or not, I'm called to all three on
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Speaker 13: a daily basis, so I'm fine with any evil one.
28:13
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with mister Hayes, mister Hayes, could you
28:17
Speaker 2: repeat what you just said about the burka, And I'm
28:22
Speaker 2: going to get back to your lack of erection in
28:25
Speaker 2: a moment.
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Speaker 1: I'm not letting that go. I gotta nail that down
28:28
Speaker 1: because you say, oh, it was just business as usual.
28:31
Speaker 2: But I bet you don't lose your erection every time
28:33
Speaker 2: you perform, right, Is that like a hazard of the job.
28:37
Speaker 1: But first, back to the burka.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, so it's it's obviously seeing an adult male in
28:45
Speaker 13: a in a burka is not something that is normal.
28:50
Speaker 13: It was surprising when he first came out, and we remember,
28:54
Speaker 13: I have no idea who they are at this point,
28:57
Speaker 13: and when it's framed to me, Miss Materia told me
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Speaker 13: we're gonna set the scene, we're gonna do oil, and
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Speaker 13: my husband's eventually gonna walk out.
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Speaker 6: So when he comes out with do you.
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Speaker 1: Mean by that we're gonna do oil?
29:10
Speaker 6: Yeah? If I'm not sure, if you're remember my testimony, but.
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Speaker 1: The will I've never been to a freak off.
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Speaker 13: No, not the freak off. My testimony, my testimony and
29:22
Speaker 13: my testimony.
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Speaker 1: What does it mean to oil?
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Speaker 6: It's like a mutual massage.
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Speaker 13: So freak Off started off the same way where we
29:29
Speaker 13: did a mutual individual massage. We put oil on ourselves
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Speaker 13: and then oil on each other, which led to sexual activity.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so you did oil.
29:39
Speaker 2: Can we get back to the burker, because a traditional
29:41
Speaker 2: burka involves a conservative, musclem Muslim female being covered in
29:48
Speaker 2: a dark material from head to risk to toe. But
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Speaker 2: isn't it true, mister Combs only were a burka from
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Speaker 2: the neck up, from the neck down, he was butt naked.
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Speaker 13: That is correct, That is correct. That is the situation
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Speaker 13: I found myself in.
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Speaker 6: It was, it.
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Speaker 13: Was very odd. It made it difficult to concentrate and
30:13
Speaker 13: to focus. So I'm sure you can see how that
30:16
Speaker 13: leads to and I guess.
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Speaker 1: A direction.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm told stealing that an erection malfunction.
30:23
Speaker 1: Okay, direction back to the burker.
30:26
Speaker 2: So at that time, you had no idea it was
30:28
Speaker 2: come sitting over there with a burker from here up right.
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Speaker 6: No idea.
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Speaker 13: I thought it was just a beautiful woman's husband, that
30:36
Speaker 13: they were into some sort of fetish, and I was
30:38
Speaker 13: not expecting them to walk out and that attire, not
30:41
Speaker 13: at all.
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Speaker 1: What was Burkerman doing during that session?
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Speaker 13: Well, well, he was set up in a table across
30:51
Speaker 13: the room where he would pace back and forth to
30:55
Speaker 13: kind of get a I guess, an angle of however
30:58
Speaker 13: he wanted to view.
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Speaker 2: He would give, repeat, repeat, repeat what I'm making a
31:04
Speaker 2: note here?
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Speaker 1: What did you just say about an angle?
31:08
Speaker 13: He was positioned to cost the room and he would
31:11
Speaker 13: kind of peace back and forth to look at us
31:15
Speaker 13: on the couches from different angles, and based on those angles,
31:19
Speaker 13: he would get You.
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Speaker 2: Know why that's important, mister Hayes. That's important because that
31:24
Speaker 2: echoes I've been very lighthearted up until this point point,
31:27
Speaker 2: but you know, I'm a crime victim. And many of
31:31
Speaker 2: the crime victims in this case have stated that they
31:35
Speaker 2: would be drugged in their drinks or some other way,
31:39
Speaker 2: and they would wake up the next morning and their
31:41
Speaker 2: vaginas and their rear ends would be hurting right, and
31:45
Speaker 2: then they would be shown a video of the free
31:48
Speaker 2: cough and threatened that if they ever went public about it,
31:52
Speaker 2: that that video would be released. Now, we've also heard
31:57
Speaker 2: reports that comes would go to different angles to get
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Speaker 2: the best angle, positioning the woman's limbs to get the
32:07
Speaker 2: best angle.
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Speaker 1: For the rape. And now what you're saying echoes that.
32:15
Speaker 2: And I bet you had no idea that other women
32:18
Speaker 2: have said that, and now you, mister Hayes, aka the punisher,
32:23
Speaker 2: you are corroborating what these other witnesses and or victims
32:28
Speaker 2: are saying. That's very critical in my mind because you
32:32
Speaker 2: may know this. A lot of times, defense attorneys like
32:37
Speaker 2: Greg Moore Soy make a very very good living of
32:40
Speaker 2: discrediting sex attack victims. But a way to bolster a
32:46
Speaker 2: sex attack victims testimony is through testimony like what you
32:50
Speaker 2: just said. Because see when we take a home video
32:54
Speaker 2: my husband David, he doesn't go from angle to angle
32:57
Speaker 2: trying to get the best angle. I mean, I'm like,
32:59
Speaker 2: if you'll turned the phone on correctly. So that's very
33:04
Speaker 2: interesting that that mirror's behavior. Other victims have said. Now
33:09
Speaker 2: let me get back to Okay, the burka. So you're
33:12
Speaker 2: in there and during that session, let me put it euphemistically,
33:17
Speaker 2: Sean Combs is going from angle to angle trying to
33:20
Speaker 2: get the best angle. What else, if anything, did he do?
33:24
Speaker 6: He's he's also pleasure in itself.
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Speaker 13: There's a he's holding a bottle of astro glide, he's masturbating,
33:32
Speaker 13: and he's giving again subtle instructions to miss Ventura in
33:36
Speaker 13: terms of what candles like just mostly based on the
33:40
Speaker 13: lighting the candles in the room and the position of
33:43
Speaker 13: her body. Uh and mind and conjuncting to our touching
33:48
Speaker 13: each other and the oil.
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Speaker 1: Plan crime stories with Nancy Grace. Mister Hay, thank you
34:01
Speaker 1: for being with us.
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Speaker 2: You know what, if you could, could you be specific?
34:06
Speaker 2: You stated that Sean Comes directed Cassie Ventura to move
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Speaker 2: her body.
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Speaker 1: Those were your words. What exactly did he ask her
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Speaker 1: to do?
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Speaker 13: And this occasion there was nothing overtly sexual. It was
34:21
Speaker 13: all based on angles to see lighting and just.
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Speaker 6: Just a massage. You know.
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Speaker 13: My testimony is about the first interaction. There was no
34:33
Speaker 13: actual sex in terms of oral or penetrative. It was
34:37
Speaker 13: just kind of like a mutual massage and it wrapped
34:41
Speaker 13: up at that.
34:42
Speaker 2: Okay, so you got paid a lot of money to
34:43
Speaker 2: give somebody a massage. Did you ever actually have sex
34:47
Speaker 2: or as you said, penetration of Cassie Ventura?
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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, in a leaders did.
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Speaker 2: Seawan Comes direct her regarding any movement of her limbs
34:58
Speaker 2: as you first said, No.
34:59
Speaker 6: There was no old direction in regards to sex itself.
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Speaker 2: Just moving candles to get a better angle, Is that
35:06
Speaker 2: what you said?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
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Speaker 13: Candles candles for lighting on our bodies and then sometimes
35:12
Speaker 13: the position and of her in conjunction to me.
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Speaker 6: He never said a word to me.
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Speaker 13: Everything was directed at miss Ventura based on like I said,
35:22
Speaker 13: these sol cues or directions.
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Speaker 1: Were you dressed up in any particular outfit, I was not.
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Speaker 13: I was instructed to just come out in a towel, nude,
35:32
Speaker 13: with just a towel.
35:33
Speaker 6: I would always begin in a towel.
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Speaker 2: Later, you stated it became difficult for you to maintain
35:37
Speaker 2: focus under Combs's stare.
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Speaker 1: Is that true?
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Speaker 13: Yes, Like like I said earlier, it was always a
35:45
Speaker 13: discomfort having a woman's partner in a room once I
35:52
Speaker 13: did realize who they were.
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Speaker 2: Please, are you telling me you've never done a threesome before?
36:00
Speaker 6: Now with not?
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Speaker 13: Now with two guys? Two guys and the girls considered a.
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Speaker 2: Train so you got comes direct to you and staring
36:10
Speaker 2: at you.
36:10
Speaker 1: And last question, did you ever see one of these?
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Speaker 6: No, I.
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Speaker 2: Let me.
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Speaker 1: Anything anything like that.
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Speaker 13: There was a conscious effort for my peripherial vision to
36:28
Speaker 13: stay above the neckline, so I have no how long So.
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Speaker 2: You know I'm talking about coms is Penis.
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Speaker 6: Oh, I'm I've I've seen the clips.
36:38
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm quite sure what you're referring to, and I
36:41
Speaker 13: cannot coroborate those facts.
36:44
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, your even just just a midge, I cannot coroborate.
36:51
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you, You got.
36:56
Speaker 10: It, Sean Diddy. Combs has quite the extensive beauty routine.
36:59
Speaker 10: Moguls Favor products are very high end, including the new
37:03
Speaker 10: Face Trinity facial trainer that uses microcurrents and red light
37:07
Speaker 10: therapy for anti aging treatments, on sale for a cool
37:10
Speaker 10: five hundred and ninety five dollars. Comb Squares by Naturra
37:14
Speaker 10: Bisa products. They're one hundred and fifty five dollars C
37:17
Speaker 10: plus C vitamin cream in his bathroom counter in raid photos.
37:22
Speaker 10: The Nars Optimal Brightening Cream also in Combs's arsenal, retailing
37:27
Speaker 10: at eighty dollars.
37:28
Speaker 14: Luxury choices including Shawn John Cologne. Shawn Comb's skincare essentials
37:33
Speaker 14: are Lines, Radiancy Cream, Way Scalp Scrub, Mario Bodescu's Line
37:37
Speaker 14: and Quality Sheet Mask, which Hazel Hemp's Lotion, Exotics, after
37:41
Speaker 14: shave cream, mel hair oil, and Shay Moisture body scrub.
37:45
Speaker 1: Good luck getting your mits on that.
37:46
Speaker 2: In the pen, Shawn Combs and we have obtained some
37:50
Speaker 2: video of the many, many beauty treatments that oh okay,
37:56
Speaker 2: that Shawn Combs enjoys. This is from Dinny's official instat.
38:00
Speaker 1: What about It? Lynn Shaw?
38:02
Speaker 2: Did you see that facial? And we see actually getting
38:04
Speaker 2: a facial on his feet?
38:06
Speaker 7: To Lynnshaw, I was so focused on that big foot.
38:09
Speaker 7: I'm disgusted. You know, Doctor Bethany, please book me a
38:13
Speaker 7: session when we're done here so I can come to
38:15
Speaker 7: you for a cleansing of triple D because I feel sick.
38:18
Speaker 7: And you know why I feel sick, everybody, because I
38:21
Speaker 7: keep thinking about all of the victims of Dirty Ditty,
38:25
Speaker 7: what they must be thinking while they're seeing all this.
38:28
Speaker 7: And on top of it, let me tell you, I
38:30
Speaker 7: had to throw out my Way shampoo and conditioner today
38:32
Speaker 7: because I saw it was on his list and I
38:34
Speaker 7: want nothing to do with him. And I wasted a
38:37
Speaker 7: lot of money doing that. But when all is said
38:39
Speaker 7: and done, let us I'm going to go back like
38:41
Speaker 7: a broken record.
38:41
Speaker 12: We've got to.
38:42
Speaker 7: Remain focused on victims and survivors and listening to them
38:46
Speaker 7: and empowering them at the same time. Because this, I
38:49
Speaker 7: can't look at him anymore.
38:50
Speaker 2: Doctor Marshall, what about you, guys, you're saying Diddy's official
38:53
Speaker 2: Instagram pages, Bethany.
38:55
Speaker 4: Nancy, He's just getting himself ready for sex, that's what
38:57
Speaker 4: he's doing. And a sex addict like him to have
39:01
Speaker 4: greater and greater stimulation to achieve sexual arousals.
39:04
Speaker 3: So what is he going to do.
39:05
Speaker 4: He's going to have women, I don't know, massaging him
39:08
Speaker 4: all the time, the baby oil, everything that we heard
39:10
Speaker 4: from the punisher, it's like p Diddy was, he was
39:13
Speaker 4: like pushing the envelope. So if this is the testimony
39:17
Speaker 4: we've heard in court thus far, I am a little
39:20
Speaker 4: frightened to hear what else might have been going on
39:23
Speaker 4: behind the scenes because all of that moving bodies, and you're.
39:26
Speaker 2: Right, you're right, doctor Bethany Sidney Sumner with me Crime
39:29
Speaker 2: Stories Investigative Reporter Sidney. It's, you know, almost laughable to
39:35
Speaker 2: watch him getting his facial and his pedicure and all
39:38
Speaker 2: of that getting manscaped.
39:40
Speaker 1: But we're talking about sex trafficking.
39:42
Speaker 2: And we had Capricorn Clark on the stand throughout the
39:45
Speaker 2: day to day describing losing her hair, crying, being beaten,
39:52
Speaker 2: being held hostage and more.
39:55
Speaker 1: That's what we don't want to forget.
39:57
Speaker 12: No, and it's hard to Nancy that simony was scary.
40:02
Speaker 12: I mean, I cannot imagine starting a job and on
40:06
Speaker 12: my first day being taken to the secluded park, sat
40:11
Speaker 12: down by my boss and saying, you know, you didn't
40:14
Speaker 12: tell her you used to work for Suge Night, So
40:16
Speaker 12: if that becomes a problem, we're gonna have to kill you.
40:20
Speaker 12: I mean, can you imagine within hours of being hired
40:24
Speaker 12: to start this job, you receive a death threat? And
40:27
Speaker 12: this continued for most of her employment. She suffered physical
40:32
Speaker 12: arm from Colmes when he shoved her out of his
40:35
Speaker 12: house for making an off handed comment about I hate
40:39
Speaker 12: it here. Colms had yelled at her for leaving the
40:41
Speaker 12: property after telling her to leave the property, and she
40:45
Speaker 12: was upset, so she made an off handed comment to
40:48
Speaker 12: another employee who turned around and told Colmbs what she said,
40:53
Speaker 12: and he shoved her out of his house physically. Not
40:56
Speaker 12: to mention that he held her hostage for five days
41:00
Speaker 12: wait until she passed a polygraph that she had not
41:03
Speaker 12: stolen jewelry from him. And that's not the first time
41:07
Speaker 12: he had held her hostage. That's three separate occasions that
41:10
Speaker 12: we've heard about just on the stand today.
41:12
Speaker 1: You know, Sydney summer.
41:13
Speaker 2: You and Lauren Collin are getting totally stressed out by
41:17
Speaker 2: reporting on all the abuse that's been heaped on others
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Speaker 2: by Shawn Comes allegedly. I think you need to go
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Speaker 2: book yourself a state at the Ermitage or the Inner Continental.
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Speaker 2: But you're going to need one of these. I'm pretty
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Speaker 2: sure in case you get around that Diddy's been in.
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Speaker 2: We wait as justice Unfole's and as Evans poors from
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Speaker 2: the witness stand, and we remember an American hero police officer,
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Speaker 2: David Lee, Saint Louis Metropolitan Police hit and killed in
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Speaker 2: the line of duty. Served eighteen years and Lee's behind
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Speaker 2: a wife termed widow Tanya, their twenty three year old
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Speaker 2: son and an eighteen year old daughter.
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Speaker 1: American hero police
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Speaker 2: Officer David Lee, Nancy Grace signing off he's a boyfriend,