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The Technocratic Coup of America Is Happening in Plain Sight w/ Aaron Day · Man in America Podcast

• 0:15
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. So I wanna ask you something before we get into today's episode. How free do you actually think that you are? Now I'm not talking about some philosophical question.
• 0:33
  I mean, right now, today, your money, your house, your car, your ability to buy food, to travel, to work, to speak your mind. Do you actually own any of that, or are you just renting access to your own life? Because this is exactly what we're gonna be talking about today. And I know that some of you are gonna hear the word technocracy, and your eyes might glaze over. And you're gonna think, okay, Seth, this is some sci fi movie.
• 1:00
  But no. It's not. It might sound like it's something out of a dystopian novel. I get it, but that's the point. That's what they're counting on because here's what I want you to understand.
• 1:10
  It's not some theory. It's not some fringe idea being cooked up in a basement somewhere. Technocracy is a decades long blueprint that is right now, as we speak, being built out in legislation, in banking, in AI, in surveillance infrastructure, in this war torn piece of land called Gaza. And most people have no idea because it's been dressed up to look like progress and innovation and freedom and convenience. So my guest today is a guy named Aaron Day.
• 1:43
  He's a serial entrepreneur, a liberty activist, an author, and one of the few people I've come across who's not just sounding the alarm, but actually building the tools to fight back. He's written a book called The Final Countdown. He's the founder of technocracyatlas.com, where you can actually watch an animated map of how the system is spreading across 50 states and over almost 200 countries over the last fifty years. And I'll be honest with you because I've been watching what he's been doing for a while now. And when I finally got on the show, I realized that this is one of those conversations that you just don't wanna cut short.
• 2:17
  So here's what we're gonna talk about today. And stay with me because this stuff connects in ways that are gonna surprise you. So we're gonna be looking at what technocracy actually is, why it's not about technology, and why the people pushing it believe that you and I are too stupid to run our own lives. We're gonna talk about the Genius Act, which is being sold as this pro crypto win for America, and why Aaron thinks it's actually a backdoor for a digital dollar that puts every transaction you make under government surveillance. We're gonna look at the Clarity Act, which he calls the biggest surveillance bill in the history of The United States, and most people haven't heard much of it at all.
• 2:59
  We're gonna talk about Elon Musk, Palantir, Project Stargate, and a 32 page plan to turn Gaza into a fully AI controlled technocratic state using the Trump family's own stablecoin as the currency. And, yes, I know how that sounds. I know. But I'm also gonna tell you about the the same thing that I always tell you. Right?
• 3:21
  Don't take my word for it. Don't take Aaron's word for it. These are bills that are sitting in congress right now. These are documented deals. They're real names.
• 3:30
  Just go research it. It's all there. But I think that if you're watching this show, you might already feel it. You feel that something is deeply off with this system is being built around us, and that the same forces that we thought we were fighting under one administration seems to still be there under the next one just wearing a different colored jersey. And Aaron's also gonna help us understand why that is, what the endgame actually looks like, and more importantly, what you can do about it.
• 3:59
  Because this show is not about fear. It's not a black pill show. It's about facing reality head on so you can actually protect yourself and your family. And that's exactly where this conversation ends up. So if you're ready, let's get into it.
• 4:12
  This is my interview with Aaron Day. Mister Aaron Day, it's good to finally have you on the show. I've been watching what you've been doing for quite some time, and I'm really looking forward to having what I think is a very, very important conversation. So thanks for being here with us.
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on.
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: So you cover a lot of things, I think one of the main themes of what you're not only just covering, but really kind of building tools and fighting against is this thing called technocracy, which, you know, five years ago was maybe some sort of sci fi term that most people weren't really aware of. But now it's, I would say, probably the the foundation of the greatest threat to our freedom in the history of mankind is the threat of technocracy. And so before we jump into some of the details, why don't you just give us a little bit of your background and just where you're focused on right now within this space?
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: Sure. I you know, the quick background is I started out as a serial entrepreneur, and, you know, my second company was destroyed by government, Obamacare and a variety of other things, and that turned me into a a liberty activist. So I I moved to New Hampshire as part of a movement called the Free State Project, which is movement to get 20,000 people to New Hampshire and kind of make New Hampshire a a beacon of liberty. And I was heavily involved in political activism for a long time and then kind of became disillusioned with the political system and started looking into building alternative systems using cryptocurrency and using building tools outside of central bank control, authoritarian control. And one of the people who introduced me to the Free State Project is a guy named Ian Freeman who has a nationally syndicated radio show.
• 5:55
  He'd been on the air for twenty years. It's actually how I found out about the Free State Project. And he was targeted by the federal government. They had five branches of the federal government. They came in with a tank, broke down his door, had drones, the whole nine yards, arresting him for basically selling Bitcoin without a license.
• 6:13
  And my wife and I were at his sensing hearing and watched the whole process. I'm like, there's something else going on here. Why are they targeting specifically people at the intersection of Liberty and crypto? And that's when I learned about I was already aware of CBDCs as a concept, but I became aware of how aggressively CBDCs were being pushed globally and in The United States. There was an executive order that Biden passed in 2022 that not only authorized the CBDC, but then authorized a whole of government approach to cracking down on crypto.
• 6:48
  Because if you're gonna launch a central bank digital currency, you know, a digital version of the dollar that can be programmed and tracked and censored, people aren't gonna like it. So you have to go after the people that are the most effective at solutions and alternatives. And sure enough, that's that's what they did. So I wrote a book about this, and then I found a 134 countries representing 98% of global GDP are working on CBDCs. And then I started to research the fact that CBDCs are part of a broader framework of what's called technocracy.
• 7:22
  And as you said, a lot of people glaze over the word or they confuse the word technocracy and technology. So we all hear you say, oh, you're anti technocracy. That means you you don't like technology. I've been using computers since I was five. I started my first tech company when I was 19.
• 7:37
  I'm surrounded by monitors here. I live on cryptocurrency. It couldn't be further from the truth. Technocracy is a political ideology that started in the nineteen thirties. And the gist of this ideology is this.
• 7:49
  You and I and your audience, we're not smart enough to make our own decisions in our lives. We need to have scientists and engineers, the best scientists and engineers picked by the elite, of course, to make decisions for us. And the heart of the system is changing the entire economy from being a price based system based on supply and demand to a system based on energy credits. So this was an idea conceived of in the nineteen thirties, which if you think about it, well, how would you implement that in the nineteen thirties? Right?
• 8:19
  This is we don't even have an Internet. We don't have digital. We don't have any of this stuff. But fast forward to today, the movement kinda stalled for a while, picked up in the early nineteen seventies with the Trilateral Commission, which is David Rockefeller and Brzezinski, who then influenced the UN to push what was called the new international economic order, which is the basis of today, the UN Agenda 2,030 and the 17 Sustainable Development Goals. And so they have been working aggressively for five decades across the globe.
• 8:53
  Trilateral commission means North America, Europe, and Asia. Right? So this is this is a global movement, and what they've been doing is eroding national sovereignty through through these commercial agreements to push multinational corporations and erode state, you know, control through through the electorate, and now we're kind of at the end game of this. Now we're seeing with CBDCs, backdoor stablecoins, you're seeing fifteen minute cities, which which are being reenvisioned by Trump as smart AI powered smart cities. Now the technology exists.
• 9:28
  And now what was once a sketch drawing of a fifteen minute city is a business plan, for instance, with the technocratic reconstruction of Gaza. And the reason this is important to me is I believe technocracy is a direct assault on free will itself. Because once you have money that's centrally controlled and a social credit system administered by an AI, you no longer have the ability to make decisions at all in your life, and not just in certain economic areas. This is where when you look at the UN agenda 2030, this is they're regulating the land, the air, the sea, where you can live, where you can study. This is even kind of the origination of this whole pronoun concept.
• 10:11
  This is why Fortune 500 companies started pushing pronouns when you would see corporations pushing this. This was actually a WEF initiative and tied in with the UN as part of their equality, you know, sustainable development goal. So to me, this is the end of free will, and this is the the battleground.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: You mentioned looking back into history, and, you know, one book that comes to mind for me is Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars. Because I've I've studied it pretty extensively. And if you what's interesting is that, you know, supposedly it came out, think, the nineteen fifty eight Bilderberg meeting, there's a story behind it. But if if you look at and breaking it down, it's really about how do you turn society and human function, everything into these mathematical equations where they use the analogy of energy and circuits to manage society, and how they talk about in there how you can create some sort of stressor. Say you raise the the they're doing studies, I think, back at, you know, decades ago where they if they raise the price of beef by 5%, alcohol sales go up.
• 11:13
  Right? So they figured out that you have these these kind of little points of leverage. But the whole idea was, I think, really, in a lot of ways, laying this this foundation for a society that is not ruled by people, but yet ruled by algorithms or computers, which at that point, maybe who knows, maybe they already had AI at that point, who knows. Right? But we know that, you know, now this is a system that AI becomes the absolute brain for this.
• 11:41
  And so for people that are living in America, which I think we we suffer from this really terrible disease in America called cognitive dissonance or normalcy bias. We think that America has always been the land of the free, the home of the brave, and this will never happen here in America. This is America. So what would life look like? Let's just say that this technocratic plan was successfully rolled out here in America.
• 12:07
  They flipped the switch, and it is now the full system. How does that change the way of life for your average American that is used to having freedom to do, in most ways, whatever they want to?
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I think you bring up a good point. I've I've done a multiple podcast on this. We already don't have freedom, and we already mostly don't own things. We through clickwrap agreements, we've given away our rights. We've given away our privacy, so on and so forth.
• 12:31
  So you're right about the cognitive dissonance side of things. We have a we may be the most propagandized country, frankly, relative to what we think we have versus what we actually have. And this erosion has happened over the last, well, you know, big big time in the last four and a half decades. But, I mean, it's it's crazy where we're at right now. I wrote a book called the final countdown, and in the first chapter, I I depicted what life might look like under this technocratic scenario.
• 12:57
  And it's it it's avail you don't have buy the book. You can actually go to brownstone.org. I'm a fellow there. The first chapter is available for free, and it paints this you know, I I painted this kind of sci fi story of, you know, imagine a family has a a social credit score where, you know, your family member actually affects the the overall group. And so this determines your your your social credit score determines where you can live.
• 13:21
  It determines what kind of health care options you have available to you. And I introduced in this chapter it's a pretty dark chapter, but there there's a a point in the story where the father is is willing to undergo a basically, MAID program in Canada in order to improve his family's credit score so that they can, you know, move into into a higher tier. But this dystopian chapter that I laid out is all based on things that already exist in various places in the world. There is a MAID program in Canada. There is already a robust social credit system in various provinces in China where depending upon your score, and if you're in that lowest category, which it's estimated 23,000,000 people are, and that's outdated, where you can live, even the quality of your internet access is determined by this scoring system.
• 14:16
  One of the things I've been arguing though for people in America is we have a social credit system. It's called the tax code. It's 75,000,000 words. It's or excuse me, 75,000 pages, 16,000,000 words of what? Incentives and penalties, telling you you'll get rewarded if you do this.
• 14:31
  You'll get penalized if you'll do that if you if you do that. But we don't have an app. And if you don't follow the rules, then you can go to prison. Right? I would argue in some ways we have a a less transparent social credit system than even China.
• 14:45
  But, you know, in this particular scenario, again, every what words you can use, your ability to exercise free speech, your career, whether or not you can even work, is all determined from the top down, which will now increasingly be by AI algorithms, and and that is essentially life. And I would argue that's if you make the cut. You know what I mean? I you know, I don't know if if everyone's even going to be allowed to exist in this in this new new brave new world, I guess, if you will.
• 15:17
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• 17:23
  He's he's independently wealthy. He's been talking about these issues that our nation's facing, you know, quite accurately for quite some time, and he comes in. And people, I think, you know, myself included. Right? I thought, okay.
• 17:34
  Hey. This you know, I hated politics. But I thought, okay. This he's not one of them. He's gonna come in.
• 17:39
  He's gonna drain the swamp. He's gonna go after the pedophiles. He's gonna do all these things. Now fast forward to what we've seen just in this administration without even getting into Epstein or any of those issues, which are it's a whole different issue. Just looking at the infrastructure that has been built.
• 17:56
  Right? It's kind of like let's it's almost like let's just remove Trump as the person. Say there's a figurehead that comes into America and does exactly what he's done in the last, however long it's been, year and a half or whatever how long his term has been so far. What infrastructure have you seen being built right now? What what's being done in America to lay lay the groundwork for this?
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Yes. I would argue that the twenty twenty four election actually ended up being technocracy without resistance versus technocracy with resistance and without resistance won. Because a lot of the rhetoric was, you know, we're gonna stop globalism, and it was positioned as America first, and it was positioned as, you know, no new wars, and we're gonna be pro crypto, no CBD, so on and so forth. And in reality, the opposite has has happened, but it's happened in a way where either no one noticed or no one resisted. I will give you an example.
• 18:52
  So with CBDCs, you know, the idea is what people the way that they sold it is they passed something called the Genius Act. And the Genius Act is a stablecoin bill. So Trump came out and said, well, we're not going to have a CBDC. Instead, we're going to have this stablecoin bill.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: So if but explain what's a stablecoin.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: A stablecoin is a cryptocurrency where where one token represents $1. So if you're using a, you know, Tether USD 1, it's a way for you to spend dollars digitally, essentially. I mean, there's a lot of layers to to how this works, but stablecoins have become very popular. These private solutions, Tether USDC. In fact, last year, people did $33,000,000,000,000 worth of transaction volume using stablecoins, which is greater than Visa.
• 19:39
  So people like using these stablecoins because in a lot of places, people can't get bank accounts, particularly if you're overseas, this is a pretty convenient way to be able to do transactions, to do things cross border. And so what the government did was they said, well, we're not gonna have a CBDC, but we're going to have what are called government regulated stablecoins. Now I wanna take a step back and say that I will never support the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is a completely unnecessary third party that, you know, profits off of money printed out of thin air, mostly digitally backed by our debt. I'm never so I will never be defending the Federal Reserve.
• 20:18
  But when the average person hears about CBDCs, what they're worried about isn't that it's issued by the Federal Reserve, they're worried about a digital form of money that can be programmed, tracked, and censored. What this Genius Act does is it takes these private stablecoins, which people are using all over the world and adds that surveillance to them. So most of the surveillance, by the way, and our money is already heavily surveilled in The United States. We have these Bank Secrecy Act, which, you know, we have know your customer laws, anti money laundering laws. This is why when you set up a bank account, you have to put in all this biometric information and everything is tracked.
• 20:59
  In fact, we spend $60,000,000,000 a year on compliance with these know your customer laws. And if you do a financial transaction, if you do a transaction more than $10,000 a report automatically goes to the treasury department. And in fact, they can change this at will. Last year, the treasury department issued a memo and said, hey, for these 30 zip codes, we wanna lower the threshold from 10,000 to $200 So there were 30 zip codes in Texas and California where anybody doing any transaction over $200 was being electronically reported to the treasury department. So understand, our money is already tracked.
• 21:38
  It's already mostly digital. We don't need a blockchain or some new invention for that. And what we've done is we've taken those rules, that those regulations and that tracking, and applied it to these private stablecoins, which is why I call it essentially a backdoor CBDC. But it gets worse. You could have a stablecoin.
• 21:56
  The idea behind a stablecoin is you wanna be able to transact in dollars or euros or whatever that currency is. But you could create a stablecoin that isn't backed by treasuries or dollars. You could say you could have gold. You could have say let's say you have a million dollars. You've created a million dollars worth of the stablecoin, and it's backed by a million dollars worth of gold.
• 22:14
  It doesn't have to be backed by treasuries. One of the things that they put in the Genius Act is, in order for your stablecoin to be legal, not only do you have to comply with all this surveillance, but you have to back your stablecoin only with US treasuries. So the upshot of this is, this allows the US government, according to treasury secretary Bissent, will be able to sell $3,000,000,000,000 worth of treasuries to back these stablecoins. So this is important for the government because no one wants to buy our treasuries anymore. We have $3,839,000,000,000,000 dollars worth of debt.
• 22:51
  I can't even keep up. When I do these interviews, I can never, you know, stay on top of the current debt level. But Japan can't buy our treasuries anymore at the level they were. China doesn't wanna buy our treasuries.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: So it's dumping them.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They're dumping them. So who's gonna buy our debt? And they figured out, let's take this stablecoin hype. Let's take this crypto hype, and let's force these private stablecoins to be backed by treasuries.
• 23:17
  So that's one thing that they've done. That's not even the worst aspect of it because it turns out there are people in the administration directly benefiting from the Genius Act. The largest beneficiary of the Genius Act is Howard Lutnick, who is Trump's commerce secretary. Howard Lutnick, before he got involved in politics, negotiated a deal where his firm Cantor Fitzgerald would manage all of the treasuries backing Tether, which at the time was the largest stablecoin in the world. Now this was a very interesting thing for Howard Lutnick to do because at the time he did the deal, stablecoins weren't required to be backed by treasuries.
• 23:59
  In fact, Tether had had some issues about never having been able to successfully pass an audit. You know, was their stablecoin backed at all, or was it backed by treasuries or gold or cryptocurrency? There there was a lot of, and remains shadiness behind Tether. But Lutnick comes in, cuts this deal, invests $600,000,000 so that her his firm can manage the treasuries. Then gets into the position of the chair of Trump's transition committee.
• 24:25
  And in that role, that's a huge role. You're responsible for vetting all of the cabinet members. Well, in 2016, Howard Lutnick was a major fundraiser for Hillary Clinton. So Howard Lutnick is not a big Republican operative. For him to be in this position at all is bizarre.
• 24:42
  But not only does he get into this position, he tries to put himself up as treasury secretary. So imagine he's just cut a deal to manage treasuries for the largest stablecoin, and now he's trying to become the treasury secretary. Well, they say, well, that's even a little bit too much even by our, you know, non standards. So he becomes commerce secretary instead, but still pushes the Genius Act. And so he, I would argue, is the largest single beneficiary of the Genius Act because anytime somebody spends a Tether, his firm is making money because they manage all of the treasuries that back Tether.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: So he's kinda like the the not necessarily, you know, exactly. He's the the visa. He's like the kind of middle person that kinda handles that exchange. Right? And, obviously, every exchange that happens, there's this tiny little slice that they keep in that exchange process.
• 25:31
  Is that somewhat correct?
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I would argue I'm working on a book called the creature from Epstein's Island, and I'm I I won't own all this. Sounds good. But but I would argue that that there's a new kind of Federal Reserve, emerging. So just as the Federal Reserve is this useless intermediary that profits off of all this money that's being created, he's profiting off of the new digital dollar. But not to be undone, the Trump family wants to get involved in this as well.
• 25:56
  So the Trump family launches something called World Liberty Financial, which has been the subject of a it's finally been exposed as being a complete scam, but they have their own stablecoin called USD 1. And so they're making money on this as well, and their stablecoin is being used. In one instance, the country of Pakistan has purchased $5,000,000,000 worth of USD 1. But the worst part of all of it and the part that layers this into technocracy is there is now an active plan to rebuild a technocratic state on top of Gaza. So Gaza, which has been leveled, 90% of the buildings have been destroyed.
• 26:34
  70,000 people have been murdered. And the plan, this isn't a theory, it's a 32 page document that they put together that they're shopping around to raise the financing for, is to rebuild in Gaza a technocratic state with six AI powered smart cities with Oracle and Palantir providing the AI and surveillance and using the Trump family stablecoin USD 1 as the currency. I mean, this so this is what's actually going on. And so this isn't an America first agenda. These are corporations that are benefiting from these projects with specific shareholders, and none of us and the American citizens or you and me personally are not part of the new economic game plan.
• 27:18
  But this yeah. The thing that you're showing right there, that is technocracy. They're even calling it a technocratic state. Jared Kushner is involved in raising the money and doing the land development. You have the I mean, it's just it is a it's a next level of of corruption.
• 27:36
  I mean, even from war profiteering standards. I mean, it makes Dick Cheney look like a boy scout. But it also shows exactly how technocracy works. So your I think your initial question on this, so what are the what are the examples of this? That's the genius act.
• 27:51
  But there's something worse, which no one talks about. I've been the only one of the only people speaking against it, and I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out why, is something called the Clarity Act. So money represents about 5% of global assets. I mean, if you think about it, I think most of the people listening to this probably don't have most of their net worth in actual cash or currency. You have what?
• 28:14
  Stocks, bonds, real estate, commodities, whatever
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Even your car you might own. Right?
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Even your car. The clarity act is about creating a system for having digital tokens just like a stablecoin is a digital token that represents the the dollar. They want to create digital tokens that represent everything that we own. So they're going to be able to program, track, and censor not just how we pay, but what we own. And that's why I've been trying to explain that the Clarity Act is the biggest surveillance bill in the history of The United States, but it's been mostly marketed as, oh, well, this is gonna give America the lead in innovation and everything else.
• 28:58
  What you have to know about this bill is with this bill, all of your digital token transactions, the things that represent all of your assets, will be tracked in real time. The transaction history will be recorded, not just any individual transaction, but the chain of transactions, what you're buying and selling. That information will be retained for five years. It will be shared with multiple departments within the United States federal government and also with foreign central banks. So when I say it's the largest surveillance bill, that's what I'm talking about.
• 29:31
  And people are like, well, this is gonna be great for crypto because it's gonna provide clarity. The clarity is they're implementing a digital prison. The clarity is that this is how we will own nothing, but you put the right bill and you throw enough propaganda behind it. There's been $200,000,000 spent by the crypto and banking lobbies. There everything about it.
• 29:52
  I've I've actually put up a thing on day2026.com where I analyze the bills. I show you which former regulators are working on it, who all of the trade associations are. There's no one sitting at the table negotiating these bills that is concerned about our economic freedom or our financial privacy. It's so it's not part of the bill because there's no one there actually even advocating for it. So when you so when you take these these things together and then you throw on AI surveillance, Palantir, what DOGE accomplished, which was not $2,000,000,000,000 worth of savings, but connecting Palantir with multiple federal government databases, we now have all of the elements of technocracy, and this has all happened without any protest or any resistance.
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• 32:28
  What's wild is that dishonoring on the Clarity Act, I've been kinda covering some of these things happening at more the global level, looking what the IMF is doing, some of the the, you know, the, you know, the BIS, etcetera. But just think it was, like, two weeks ago, the IMF just published this paper, right, where they're they're okay. What is real world asset tokenization? The IMF just called it a structural reconfiguration. So the I r IMF just published this note on April 2, calling tokenization a fundamental reconfiguration of a financial architecture, where they're looking at real world asset tokenization.
• 33:04
  And, like, this is like, when I saw these things happening even a year, two years ago at the global level, I was thinking, okay, that, you know, the unified ledger and some of these things, I was like, this is this is frightening. This is dystopian. But now, as you you mentioned, right right here, the digital asset market clarity act of 2025, alright, this is it, right? This is the exact, Yep. Okay?
• 33:28
  Yep. Is, this is like, this is crazy because if you look at it and you think about, okay, I can maybe figure out ways of resisting CBDC, right? You know, it's like, one, you know, keeping most of your assets outside of, like, the main banking system. Because, you know, what happens that one day, you get the notification from JPMorgan and say, hey, due to some sort of massive cyber attack or AI, which, you know, Altman's out there warning about, they say, we've now converted your funds into digital tokens, and you'll still be able spend them and everything, but now it's this tokenization of that. Like, that's one thing, but thinking about the tokenization of your house you own, of the whatever assets that you have, Like, that's kind of you look at what's happening in China, you look at some some of things that kinda tie into CBDC and the controlling of using, okay.
• 34:15
  Hey. You can't access your money to buy this thing because of x y z. Well, this goes so far beyond money. This is basically taking everything around us and tokenizing it, which means they can track it. They can take it away.
• 34:30
  They can make you have permission to have it. It's almost like, in a lot of ways, it's look at what you know, video ownership used to be twenty years ago. Growing up for me, it was you'd have this big library of your VHS tapes, and it was there's something kinda cool about that. Right? Hey.
• 34:43
  We got the new movie. It came out, the new Braveheart movie. You got your your double VHS VHS for it. Now that's all being done digitally, and not only are you paying for subscription to everything, it's like, I wanted to watch that, but now it's no longer included in my Apple Plus subscription, whatever. So that's just kind of a tiny little micro example of what happens when they take the physical and they digitize it, and then they make you basically play by their rules if you want access to that asset.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It is how how you own nothing. And I and I've been working on this token in this tokenization area since 2018. And I actually started out I didn't mention this part of it, but I stopped using a personal bank account in 2019. I live on privacy, cryptocurrency, gold, silver, but I've been interested in the tokenization of assets.
• 35:31
  And I first got involved with it with the idea that, hey. You know, just as central banks and governments are these unnecessary third parties for money, right, that that create all of these wars and everything, these other markets, our stocks, everything else that we own, there's an opportunity for us to be able trade those things and own them in our own self custody and trade them outside of the system. So that's how I started getting into this. And we're getting the dystopian view of all that just as we're not people are not pushing or what's gaining in popularity aren't privacy coins that we have in our own possession. All of these government rules are around centrally controlled programmable money, and now we're getting this with with our assets.
• 36:11
  And so this is why I say this is the most important bill because it's the kind of final piece of how we will own nothing. Imagine in the future, you say something the government doesn't like. Yeah. They'll shut off their money, but they'll also shut off your car. They'll shut off your ability to sell or use your retirement assets or your ability to sell your home.
• 36:30
  I mean, this is truly the last step in all of this, and it's it's not been discussed. And the bill's about to pass. I mean, it's very close.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, even though some of those things are already happening in China, where if your social credit score is not what it needs to be, you can't buy a train ticket. You can't get a mortgage. You can't, have access to certain things. Even they have zones. You have to scan your face to go into you know, some of their their more kind of fifteen minute city ideas they have over there.
• 36:56
  You literally see these videos of people walking through these turnstiles, you have to scan your face, and it will allow you in or out of that zone, which is like, that's just it's there. And so I wanna get back to Palantir and some of those things. Before I jump there, I I wanna kinda look at just the the physical infrastructure for this. Right? Because right now, what we're seeing is there's this company called Flock, and they have these Flock cameras.
• 37:22
  And I think they have what? 80,000 or I forget the the number they have, but these are these basically, they're they're cameras that you can look at maps. I found there's actually live out in the middle of nowhere in the country. I found at some intersection a mile away from me, there's a Flock camera. Right?
• 37:37
  These cameras, every time you drive past, they're collecting data on everything, even though what dents you have in your car, what your car looks like, your license plate, what's happening, who's driving. They're they're collecting all this data, storing it supposedly for our safety. Of course, yeah, everything's done for the safety. Patriot Act was to protect us from the terrorists that we funded or we were, you know, CIA assets. Right?
• 37:56
  And so, like, you have these the camera network. Obviously, you have the Ring camera network, right, where you we saw that, you know, what Ring has, what, 30,000,000 cameras or something like that that are existing in America. There's a Super Bowl ad that came out of, like, hey, find your lost dog. Well, what a brilliant way to get the average American person to think, wow, Ring camera is so convenient. Now Amazon has built a 30,000,000 camera digital surveillance infrastructure across America, but then you tie that into all the different data centers that that are being built, which is that's a whole other issue, not to mention project Stargate, $500,000,000,000 investment tied into Oracle.
• 38:36
  You look at all these things together, and it's like what you can see is that the inf the physical infrastructure is being built to match the digital infrastructure that people have been warning about for quite some time.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: It is. And when I was writing my book and I wrote the book in 2023, so this has all gotten worse. But there are more surveillance cameras per capita in The US than China. I I mean, they obviously have more people in China, but there you know, they have 700,000,000 surveillance cameras in China, but we actually have more, you know, per person here in The United States. And so this has has been building.
• 39:13
  And a lot of this happened during COVID. I mean, you had things like contact tracing. You had a whole variety of other mechanisms that were put in place under the guise of, you know, tracking and public health and safety, so on and so forth. But whenever they put these things in place, they never take them away. Whenever there's an emergency, they usually don't lift whatever the surveillance is that was put in place during that emergency.
• 39:34
  And so so yes. So now we have a combination of all of these things in place, and then you have Trump saying, hey. Well, let's, you know, have Palantir. Let's build a database of Americans. Let's have Palantir connect.
• 39:44
  Palantir is at the heart of of more than people think. I mean, people have heard different aspects of this, and maybe you've seen their CEO, Alex Karp, make, you know, various various statements that are about, you know, Ukraine or what's going on in The Middle East, but they're heavily involved in predictive policing at the local level. Palantir is has won a contract where they're building an entire database in The UK for the National Health Service. So they are building the database of all of the people in The UK and all of their health information. They are heavily embedded in the health care system here.
• 40:21
  And so now they're starting to marry health care data and private data with data from DHS and from tax records. And I I one of the things that I try to spend a lot of time educating people about are these click wrap agreements that we sign. We sign 200 of these a year. And if you were to read them all, it would take two hours a day, three hundred and sixty five days a year. Of course, no one no one can do that.
• 40:43
  And even if you did do that, it's not like you can send a red line back to the chief legal counsel at Microsoft and have them make a modification. But in these agreements, we give away a lot of our rights. And so what Palantir is able to do is, you know, an agreement might say, well, you know, we don't give away identified information. We only give de identified information. But if you put a string enough of these agreements together, you can actually get at the data.
• 41:11
  And so there's so much that's gone on. And I would argue this is without our consent. Even though we consented to these agreements, once you realize that a lot of these agreements, you have lobbyists that put in place standardized terms through government. These are not voluntary agreements that we're entering into at this point. But yeah, the surveillance infrastructure is there.
• 41:30
  Oracle's already been big at this for a long time. A lot of people don't realize Oracle's first client was the CIA. Oracle powers the Federal Reserve. So when the government is writing their checks, they're writing it out of an account at the Federal Reserve that's essentially It's not physical cash. They're entries in an Oracle database out of the Federal Reserve.
• 41:50
  And so Oracle has contracts all over the world. They do business in China. They do business everywhere. And so you mentioned Operation Stargate. The thing that I find hilarious is there was a press conference that Trump had announcing this $500,000,000,000 deal that was all about protecting The US and AI.
• 42:08
  And I'm like, wait a minute. The biggest investor in that is SoftBank from Japan, and all of the companies that you're talking about are multinational corporations. There is no American interest in this deal. Like, it's it's absurd. But but all this has happened.
• 42:23
  The data centers, all of these other deals, think about how much faster this has been built out than than even under Biden. I mean, you know, I joke, you know, I don't think there's a political way out of this, but, I mean, if Harris was in there, she'd get it she'd get together some DEI team to try to build the CBDC, and they'd never get it off the ground. It would be like the it would be like the Obamacare sign up web page. But in this instance, they've just allowed the PayPal mafia and the Technocrats to run without any not only without resistance, but with help, with subsidies, with with additional encouragement and taxpayer support.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're they're funding it. I mean, that's it's that's exactly it's like they're taking our taxpayers. Like, they're taking the they're just kinda stealing our money, and they're using that money to build a prison around us and saying, hey. This is gonna help protect you from the line somewhere out there in the woods. And everyone's you know, for a lot of people, they're like, oh, thank you.
• 43:18
  Thank you. Thank you. You have to make the bars thicker. There's a lion out there. I think I saw it on the news.
• 43:21
  There's a lion we should be scared of, and you realize that the lion's a CIA asset. Right? And that it's just I mean, it's it's wild, but it's also crazy how how many people are just going along with it. And, you know, now I know there's been a lot of local resistance to data centers because now you're looking at, okay. Hey.
• 43:40
  Now your electricity bill's gone up. Your water's getting polluted. There's a you know, those issues that kinda hit people where it counts. But, I mean, overall, I think that you're one of the few people that I see calling these kinds of issues out. And it's it is it's it's frightening.
• 43:58
  I mean, honestly, and the the pace that this stuff has been moving through is just insane. I remember early on back in, say, 2024 when you had all of a sudden, all these big tech CEOs that all of a sudden kind of threw all their support behind Trump. Right? You've got, you know, now, you know, the same companies that were censoring him, were censoring conservatives, were pulling conservative books off of Amazon, that were kicking us off of Facebook, off of x, etcetera. These same people magically had this change of tune, and now they're the biggest funders of the Trump campaign.
• 44:33
  And, I mean, to me, it's just like again, like, that Oracle press conference was just this giant red flag of there's something if this is his first kind of major announcement is the funding of this trillion you know, $500,000,000,000 data center with Sam Altman up on saying alt man, alternative man, you know, whatever you wanna dig into that. To me, it's like there's there's a lot of Trojan horses that are happening here.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of Trojan horses. And, again, I'm not anti technology. I'm not even anti AI, but it's it's actually in the same way. If it's a, you know, a model that you're using, like, use AI on my own data. I don't use the AI based on whatever their data is trained on.
• 45:12
  And so if you have an open source model where you can see how it works and you can even change how it works, that's great. But the problem is you can see the layers of technocracy. In fact, have the site technocracyatlas.com where you can actually see the map of how technocracy has grown across all 50 states and across a 197 countries over the past fifty years. If you actually go to timeline, you can see kind of an animated map of this at the at the top heading. You can see an animated map of of how this has all grown.
• 45:51
  And I've been looking at the different ways that, you know, Peter Thiel or some of these technology companies have been infiltrating various levels of government. I'll give you one example of how this works. With AI, there's currently a bill coming through the Senate by senator Marsha Blackburn, which is, I think, some Trump AI bill, and then there's a new policy coming out of the White House. And essentially, what this these two combined say is in order for a if they pass, if this bill in the senate passes, in order for a new AI model to be released, it has to be blessed by the Department of Energy. There is something in the bill that basically takes away and removes the ability for states to regulate AI, and it gives the secretary of commerce, who today is Howard Lutnick, the the ability to basically snipe any new law.
• 46:42
  He has, like, ninety days from the time a new law is either issued or passed to actually remove move it. There is a provision in there that says that the FTC AI models have to are subject to a political bias review. And then there's another thing in there that removes section two thirty, which is what gives social media platforms, you know, the ability to run without being personally held liable for their users. And it also has a provision in there for holding developers personally liable for for the so all so these federal laws protect big tech, and they give the federal government complete control over how the models work. I mean, when you're determining political bias, that is censorship.
• 47:29
  So these data centers then that are being built are often being built with tax credits at the state level. And so what you are building with these things, these could be good data centers, but they're not because under this model, these data centers represent surveillance. They represent the heart of the digital prison that's being built all around us. So there are a lot of arguments that can be made about why data centers are a bad idea. Mine comes from the standpoint of these are not free markets.
• 47:58
  That lot of people are trying to claim, well, this is about free markets and innovation. There's nothing innovative about only being able to build data centers for models that are sanctioned by the federal government.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: And that that's a really important point too, because I think it's getting that that call into dissonance. Right? I think framing is really important. And and and the media knows this. I mean, you go back into Bernays, it's like they they know how important the framing of messaging is.
• 48:24
  But I think that we can also use these same tools. And I think that's part of it. So can we see a data center? It's like, don't think of it like these aren't gonna be these big centers to use to generate an AI video of a cat playing volleyball. Right?
• 48:36
  These are hubs of surveillance. These are basically these are the they are the foundational structures of technocracy. Like, that's what they are. And the getting into even the five g network, you know, the six g network, which Trump has been bragging about as well, which is that's a whole different topic. But what it is, and as far as I see it, is, you're literally it's like you're sitting in a it's like you're sitting in an open field, and you're watching around you as they're constructing guard towers or constructing walls.
• 49:07
  They're constructing the stuff. Before you know it, you wake up the next day, and your open field is now just a prison cell. And that's that's what I'm seeing all around us. And the amount of Trojan horses that they use to do this is is actually incredible. I mean, I'm sure, you know, you're you're very well aware of this.
• 49:23
  The the Pokemon Pokemon game. Right? They had this Pokemon GO game. It was this augmented reality game where you would use your phone to go you kinda look as augmented reality. So you look through your phone, it shows you a video of what you're seeing, but adds in the the Pokemon characters.
• 49:37
  And, you know, people all around the world were just going into every little street alley, going behind little nooks and crannies to film to look for these Pokemon characters. And we now understand that they were actually using that as a giant data harvesting operation to get it's like, okay, you can have security cameras on street corners, but who's gonna go record what looks like behind that dumpster in the alley? Right? But then also then you had the CAPTCHA. Right?
• 50:01
  We're so used to this where you go in to verify that you're a human being is to pick out all the stoplights, pick out all the bicycles, pick out it's like, that's kind of a strange thing, but then we've now learned that they use that to train their algorithms to train basically, we'll end up training AI how to recognize what is a car, what is a bus, what is a bicycle. And so, I mean, it's just it's the same wash, rinse, and repeat that how can they get us to build the prison with our tax dollars, our money, our effort, through these little kind of they they gift wrap it and say, oh, it's a fun game for your kids to play.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I and and they're very good at it. They're very good at knowing these things. Actually, one area, you you know, we talked about this before the show started, but I mean, Elon Musk is at the heart of this technocracy movement. His grandfather was the head of the Technocracy Party of Canada, and he Musk has said that Mars will be a technocracy.
• 50:58
  He has stated that, you know, money will go away and it will be replaced by energy, which is the heart of of of the technocracy model. He has stated that we need universal basic income. But one of the biggest scams, in my opinion, was this idea that Elon saved free speech. And so there are a lot of people, when you talk about cognitive dissonance, there are people that think that we have free speech. But but in reality, what is freedom of reach?
• 51:24
  When he says freedom of reach, this means that he controls the algorithm that determines what can or cannot be seen. So, you know, the idea that you can post something that no one sees is is that freedom of speech. And so the thing is he didn't buy Twitter to save free speech. I often play a video clip of him in his office talking to around a conference room table with three or four other people where he stated the reason for buying Twitter was to build a different version of WeChat, and WeChat is an everything app in China that's tied into social credit scores. It's what people use for posting.
• 52:03
  It's what people use for banking and everything else. It is a technocratic system. So now where is x today? Well, you have your when you go through to become to hit your blue check mark, that goes through a company with it ties to Israeli Mossad for doing identity verification. You now have freedom of reach, which is an algorithm that determines what will or will not be distributed.
• 52:28
  And now he's launching xMoney, which is a payment system. Now what I I haven't used it yet. It's not fully out yet, but I did research what jobs he was looking for when he was hiring and programmers and everything, and a lot of it was compliance with Bank Secrecy Act, Know Your Customer anti money laundering laws. So all of the money, everything is gonna be tracked through your identity, which is tracked, your money, which will be tracked, and then all of your speech, which is restricted. I did now I will say, I mean, to his credit, I had a post that got 5,000,000 views where I deconstructed the new terms of service from X.
• 53:03
  And in the terms of service, they own your data. They own all of the information that you put through there. If you have a dispute, there's one court jurisdiction in Texas where all of, you know, that's the jurisdiction for any disputes and the maximum damages for X is $200 If you are caught trying to figure out how they're censoring speech, it's a violation of the terms of service and you can lose your account. So, you know, so but there are people that to this day, fewer people, but there are lot of people that believe that still believe this idea that Elon Musk was was here to say free speech, and we have we have the opposite. We now have the illusion of free speech, which is more dangerous.
• 53:44
  At least, you know, when you know you're being suppressed and when you know you're being censored, you can do something about it. But there are a lot of people surfing around through life now who think that they have free speech, and they don't.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: What I'll say, it's like, what if what is free speech if your speech is the actual asset that they're taking away from you from the perspective of they're using your speech to train their data models, to train all their their to basically build their AI. I think that's one of big things with with with X is is that. But actually, here's the, is this this is the video. Right?
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: For those that have used WeChat, I think that's WeChat's actually a good model. If you're in China, it's basically you you kinda live on WeChat. It does everything. It's sort of like Twitter plus PayPal plus a whole bunch of other things, and we'll roll into one with actually a great interface, and it's it's really an excellent app. And we don't have anything like that outside of China.
• 54:37
  So I think it such a such an app would be really useful. And just like the utility of of it of of of sort of a a spam free thing where you could you can make comments. You can post videos. You can you know, I think it's important for content creators to have a revenue share. Now now this this does not need to be done on Twitter.
• 55:02
  It could be done from something that's created from scratch. So it it could be something new. So really but but I think this thing needs to exist, whether it is converting Twitter to be the sort of, like, kind of all encompassing app that that like I said, everything from Digital Townsquare where important ideas are debated.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: So, anyway, he he goes on, but, I mean, that's if you I've I've done a lot of my study into China. I've been always very involved in understanding what's happening in China, using them as a lens for what could be done globally. And if you understand the role of what of WeChat in China, WeChat is central to their digital control grid over there. And WeChat, and literally, this is obviously before Elon, I think had purchased Twitter, maybe he was in the early stages of it, but this is, he's other parts of he's talking about this, this is his goal, to make X literally the identical thing to what WeChat is. They've got x credit card now, x finance, you can deposit money, they give you a good, you know, annual return on it, you get this cool x card with your username on it.
• 56:05
  You can see that he's doing the exact same thing. And then if you couple that with Teslas, which I ref I I will never ever buy a Tesla in my entire life for a lot of reasons. But Teslas, have the Optimus robots. You've got the Starlink, you know, kinda satellite grid. If you merge all those things together, it doesn't matter if he's well intentioned.
• 56:26
  Maybe he's actually maybe he's, you know, the the most altruistic sage to come and he's freeing mankind, but then something happens to him, and the next guy takes the seat and uses everything that he's built to do the exact opposite. Right? And this is you could it's just it's it's right in front of us.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah. I mean, the question but is he well intentioned? If you know that he believes in technocracy, and then there's this nine volume, I need to get it, but set of science fiction books. That's kind of the basis for for for his vision of this. But, I mean, he describes a world where it's kind of like that movie Wall e where people are in space.
• 56:58
  You know? They don't have jobs. They're just sitting there on their hovercraft drinking in their chairs on their iPads or whatever. This this is his view of of kind of this hedonistic worldview as his utopian vision, which, you know, that I mean, so his stated intentions, I I disagree with. And and and, again, it's coming down to, well, do we have any choice about it?
• 57:20
  And so we're at the point where, you know, his ability to adjust the freedom of reach will can determine outcomes in elections. I mean, if you're talking about a, you know, electorate that's fifty fifty divided, and we saw this when there was pushback on h one b visas, which, you know, he's a big supporter of, and all of a sudden, thousands of accounts were shut down. People were demonetized. So and part of the terms of service is that they can do that. He has built into his agreement the ability to do that.
• 57:48
  So so then, again, we have people that sit there thinking they have freedom of speech, and he can just tweak a few things and and and actually have an impact on the outcome of elections.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: And so I think one of the the keys with this is just really looking at what can be done about it. Right? What can we do? For me, I'm you know, in many ways, my solutions are very old school. Right?
• 58:09
  It's like your asset can be buried in your backyard. This is the asset that, you know, is gonna help you the the best possible. Right? So I'm I'm all about, you know, precious metals, looking at stocking up, preparing, building off grid energy systems, you're building food independence, lot of these. Most actually, literally within the next coming days, we're building a, a private community.
• 58:31
  It's gonna be a private online community. It's almost like a small social network slash community that's we own the code to, we're hosting it, we're encrypting everything on there as a way to kind of help people build these networks to kind of build support networks. That's called the arc, right? So the arc community, kind of looking at like, Okay, there's a flood coming, let's build an arc together to kind of get through that. But for the average person that's watching this and seeing all this around them and thinking, What on earth can I do?
• 58:58
  How can people be proactive about resisting this, but also building resilience against it?
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So one of the things that I'd love to learn more about this, this network that you're building is, you know, I the the key to stopping them is is to stop using fiat currency because the basis for what they're doing is is their control over the money. And so it so cash is not an alternative because if you're using cash, you're still using fiat currency. So I have I was actually just looking for them. I have gold bags.
• 59:28
  I think I put them on my bookshelf. You may have some of those.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: But I had some sitting on my desk the other day because I did a little presentation, a little show and tell where I still have some old kind of, you know, some kind of what do call junk silver. I had some gold backs. I had some little, you know, $2.5 little gold, kind of gold bars. Anyway, I'll I'll continue, though. I'll let you.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: So I use those. I also use I've moved into privacy coins with respect to crypto because the the whole I mean, Bitcoin is a public ledger. Most of the cryptocurrencies are in that. So, again, surveillance is the key to the technocracy. So I use something called Zeno.
• 1:00:04
  I use something called Freedom Dollar, which is actually a privacy stablecoin, but it's not backed by treasuries. I use Monero. So to me, the the we need we have to understand we're not gonna be able to escape technocracy. It's a global movement. We actually have to stop the technocracy.
• 1:00:19
  So to me, the the quickest thing to do is for people to stop using fiat, but then beyond that, it's analyzing I have created a site called ownnothing.org, which basically has and I'd I'd be happy to put a link to this private network that you're putting together. This is the idea behind this is that you can fill out these little surveys about money, health, your attention, security, education, ownership, and it will tell you, you know, how much sovereignty you have. Do you own these things? And then it will give you links to other resources for ways that you can improve your sovereignty. So for instance, you know, money is one way they control us.
• 1:00:57
  The other way they control us is through the health care system. And the truth is we live in a country where people have jobs they hate, only to have insurance that won't actually protect them when they have a catastrophic event. In in America, every minute somebody files for medical bankruptcy, seventy five percent of those people have insurance. So your insurance doesn't protect you when you need it, but a lot of people have jobs just so that because health insurance is tied to employment. And so you do all of this so that you can earn a retirement, which are in 401ks and ETFs and stocks that you don't even own in companies that are building your digital prison.
• 1:01:33
  And so once you realize all of these things, it's kind of like you said, I put together these diagnostic tools. So like on the health front, you know, I mean, that's a multifaceted approach. You know, stop buying big food and so forth, that'll help, but then, you know, cancel your insurance, form a medical trust, look at medical tourism. So I'm building a whole database here and an interactive tool to help people diagnose where they are, and then link to all of the various solutions out there to to help each individual. One of the big things you can do is move too.
• 1:02:01
  You know, I think that you know, I moved to New Hampshire. You know, whether any of the states are actually that free. I mean, I I as much as I moved here and it's largely rated the freest, you know, when you compare the rate of technocracy and how much control the federal government has over any of the states, are are we actually winning, or are we just the freest, you know, slave colony or slave plantation on the colony? I, you know, I I don't know. But nevertheless, some people are in situations where it's even more onerous from the standpoint of surveillance and control over money and taxes and so forth.
• 1:02:38
  And so all so, again, this I'm just building this out, but the idea is to help people become aware and then to help build more and more solutions or link to other people that are excuse me, already have solutions to help improve your own individual situation.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: It's crazy that we're just now talking for the first time because so you built ownnothing.org, which is a assessment test. Right? It's a it's a free I'm guessing, it's it's probably a free assessment test. You get your score on your sovereignty. We did the exact same thing called ReadyScore.
• 1:03:09
  So readyscore.com is how to actually take it's a free preparedness assessment test, where it's asking you how much water do you have? What kind of water access do you have? Do you can you protect yourself? How much food supply do you have? What are your energy sources?
• 1:03:22
  And so you go through and you take we have like a two minute test and then make a ten minute test where it gives you your Ready score, where it shows that, hey, you're a 65 out of a 100. Here's where you're most vulnerable. And part of the platform that we're building, the ARC community, is it's gonna it has a whole training aspect to it. So then your ReadyScore, you figure out, okay, a week in these four areas, there's directly correlating training courses on the ARC platform where it actually teaches you how to have water sovereignty, how to have food sovereignty, how to have energy sovereignty. So actually, it educates you, gives you checklists.
• 1:03:55
  I mean, it's it's just funny how many things that were like, I guess I'm kinda taking more of, the Amish way of, okay, here, how to get back to these more local and, this, and you're kind of fighting on the the digital, but it's all one thing. Anyway, it's just really cool to see what you're doing because I live and breathe exactly what you're doing here, and you're building solutions, which is just amazing.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's great to see that you're doing this, and the point is we need to link all of these things together. Right? I mean, my my I'm just trying to do general awareness, but I I'm not building all of the solutions. I I wanna connect and find out what all of those other solutions are and what people are up to so that we can build a network decentralized network together.
• 1:04:35
  And so great great to to learn about that as well.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: It is. So, Aaron, I wanna bring up, you have a couple of different websites. Where is the where is the best place for people to find you? I know that you've got digital or say daylightfreedom.org. Is this kind of your central hub for what you're doing?
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That is the central hub. That list links to all of the other the other five sites. I've been I have a podcast, the Aaron Day Show, which is every Thursday at 6PM eastern, and I you know, it ends up being, a three to five hour thing, and I go usually go into nerd level depth on some you know, variety of different topics. But, yeah, that's a great place.
• 1:05:17
  And I am on X, unfortunately. That is still the that's the best place today, but, you know, at Aaron R Day. So those are the those are the best places to find me.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Incredible. Well, Aaron, I I really enjoyed this discussion. Was actually it was it's almost like, you know, my wife, who's kind of involved in this, all this stuff with me, it reminds me of her and I's discussions because it's just, it's just like rapid fire back and forth, and we're just it's we're kind of just jumping through these complex mental gymnastics to come to solutions. And I just yeah, I really appreciate what you're doing. I I think I understand quite well what you're doing and and what your intentions are.
• 1:05:54
  I think it's it's really, really important because I I would argue that a technocracy is the single greatest threat to our freedoms. I mean, it's like everything that the founding fathers and every generation before us, every time that everything they did to work for the freedom that we have in America, what little left that we actually do have, this right here is the Trojan horse that will just burn down the entire city of freedom that we've built.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: No. I I agree. And my wife, same, is with me all all along the way, every step of the way as well. And she she was actually in the medical freedom movement in 2006, so fighting for vaccination choice. So it's been it's been quite a quite a journey.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Well, good, man. Well, I'll make sure that all your links are in the show description, and I'll let you know when when the show's out. And, yeah, thank you again for for giving us your time today, and just thank you for dedicating your life to this. It's it's it's so important.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Awesome. Thank you for having me.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Now I hope you enjoyed that discussion as much as I did. I feel like that Aaron's the kind of guy that I could just be going back and forth with for hours and hours. I mean, he he really gets it. But I also like how he's he's not just calling out the bad things and saying, hey. Look.
• 1:07:07
  Be scared of this. He's building things. Like, he's actually trying to build systems and tools that people can use to regain their own sovereignty, which is exactly what my wife, Kate, and I have been really doing with our own time too is building tools, educating. Obviously, the show itself is a tool to educate people. We have our ReadyScore, which we talked about, which will be in the the link will be in the description.
• 1:07:29
  We have the ARC community, which is very, very soon to launching, which you can get on the waiting list at buildthearc.com. But also just looking at resilience, you know, learning how to grow your own food, how to raise, you know, livestock, how to preserve, food or seeds, how to protect yourself, how to get off grid. Right? These are all things that we look at as being tools that you can use to create a lot less dependence on the government. Because if you look throughout history, every extra thread of dependence on the government, at some point that thread gets pulled in, yanks you closer to their control system.
• 1:08:07
  And so it's really about just cutting the threads and just living independently, which is very freeing. Now one of the areas, as you can see in this discussion, that I think that these the strongest thread they will use to control people, which is what it's always been, is money. It's a financial system. And so for people that have their entire net worth sitting in the stock market or bank accounts or in a system that the central bankers control, in my own view, those are all areas that are completely vulnerable. And that's the last thing I wanna have happen is I wake up one day and say, hey, there's been some bad cyber banking attack, and now all of your money is either not there, or it's been converted into some sort of digital credit system or digital currency.
• 1:08:51
  And that's oftentimes how these things work. It's not just during a time of peace they bring in these new rules. It's when there's a systemic attack. Right? They want nine eleven, the Patriot Act.
• 1:09:01
  When something like that happens, that's when they bring in the new rules that are already written, and they use the false flag or the attack or whatever it is to bring in and usher in a new level of surveillance and loss of freedoms. And that's why for me, I always have these pieces of silver sitting on my desk because to me, this is the ultimate off grid asset. Obviously, if you have land, if you have ammunition, food, those are really important, and I highly recommend those. But if you're looking for a place to store your assets outside of a system that these elites control, that these banking families control, in my humble opinion, silver and gold are these critical assets. And so if you're looking for a place to do that, you can check out your local pawn shop, local corn shops.
• 1:09:46
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• 1:10:03
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• 1:10:22
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• 1:10:58
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• 1:11:20
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• 1:11:32
  Take care. Keep safe. I'll see you next time.