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Geoff Schwartz on the NFL 100 list, Aaron Donald back with the Rams, TCU's loss to UNC in Dublin + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: From the Murdoch Hyundai Studio of ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show. Welcome in our
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  Speaker 2: college football and pro football and everything insider, Jeff Schwartz. Hey, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. Glad to be here. Did
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  Speaker 1: I hear correctly in the update, I think it was,
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  Speaker 1: that Utah, the last time they played Idaho, they lost
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  Speaker 1: to them in 93 or something? Did I hear that correctly?
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  Speaker 2: It's 99, I think, a revenge game.
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  Speaker 1: Revenge spot, yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Morgan Scali was a player on that team, if I'm
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  Speaker 2: not mistaken.
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  Speaker 1: I know Utah hasn't always been what they are, but
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  Speaker 1: that feels odd that they lost the last time they
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  Speaker 1: played each other.
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  Speaker 2: What do you want me to say about it?
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  Speaker 1: This is odd. What did you make of the NFL
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  Speaker 1: head coach going after me this week? I need your
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  Speaker 1: opinion on this. What do you think? I didn't see it.
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  Speaker 1: You saw it. I didn't. You're online. I forgot. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Sean Payton, I talked about the Broncos, and I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think Bo Nix was going to get any better, and
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  Speaker 1: I misspoke on one thing about him throwing the ball deep,
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  Speaker 1: and Sean Payton tweeted at the clip of me talking, saying,
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  Speaker 1: you can tell who works at it and who doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 1: Sean Payton went after my guy? It was his second
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  Speaker 1: tweet of the year. The other one was like Drew
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  Speaker 1: Brees Hall of Fame and then Jeff Schwartz. There's two
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  Speaker 1: tweets so far in the calendar year.
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  Speaker 2: You're right, by the way. It was 1993 that Utah
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  Speaker 2: played against... I do listen, believe it or not. Not
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  Speaker 2: to you, but I do listen to the voice guy. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so look, I guess what we've done now is we're
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  Speaker 2: declaring war on Sean Payton. And now we have to
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  Speaker 2: hate him. If you're a Broncos fan in this market,
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  Speaker 2: you have to choose between Jeff Schwartz and Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 2: And I hope you choose wisely.
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  Speaker 1: They're probably going to choose Sean Payton, but that's okay
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  Speaker 1: with me.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably right.
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  Speaker 1: As far as you can see this, I got more
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  Speaker 1: texts about this than I did about the birth of
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  Speaker 1: my kids.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know he tweeted me. So what I do is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, whenever a tweet goes on, I just mute
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  Speaker 1: the tweet immediately, right? So I don't see any replies.
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  Speaker 1: It's the only way to do social media. And so
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  Speaker 1: they put this Broncos clip out. I muted it immediately.
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  Speaker 1: So I didn't see any notification. I didn't see any
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  Speaker 1: comments on it. And then I started getting like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: hang in there, text messages. I was like, what? because
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  Speaker 1: I talked about the Broncos. Like, hang in there. What
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  Speaker 1: do you mean? Someone DMed me stats to back up
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  Speaker 1: my argument.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 1: I know what I said. What are these stats for?
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  Speaker 1: And they're like, hang in there. I'm like, what is happening?
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  Speaker 1: And then someone screenshot and sent me the Sean Payton thing.
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea for probably at least an hour.
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  Speaker 1: No idea. He tweeted at me. Wow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Why do you hate Bo Nix?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the question on the show was. Will
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  Speaker 1: he get better or worse? Those are my two options.
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  Speaker 1: I chose worse. Okay. It goes fair.
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  Speaker 2: I do think he is just what he is at
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  Speaker 2: this point.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I said.
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  Speaker 2: Looks like the same quarterback he was in college. He's consistent.
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  Speaker 2: He's not going to make mistakes, but he's not going
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  Speaker 2: to push the ball down.
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  Speaker 1: You just copy what I'm saying now.
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  Speaker 2: I'm quoting you directly.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I know. That's what I said.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you said on first things first.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing that I misspoke on. was I meant
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  Speaker 1: to say he needs to be more accurate throwing the
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  Speaker 1: ball down the field. And instead I said, he needs
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  Speaker 1: to just push the ball down the field. And I got,
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  Speaker 1: you know, everyone got angry at me because he has,
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  Speaker 1: he does throw the ball down the field, but he's
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  Speaker 1: not accurate at it. And I understand people will say,
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  Speaker 1: he's got 19 passes of over 20 plus yards. He'll
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  Speaker 1: be 17th in completion percentage of balls over 20 yards.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's okay. That doesn't mean he's, he's necessarily good
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  Speaker 1: at it. Um, So Broncos fans are not happy with me.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. And apparently neither is Sean Payton. I love that.
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  Speaker 2: That's good to, you know, you get on the radar
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  Speaker 2: for an NFL head coach. It can't be bad. There's
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  Speaker 2: no such thing as bad attention in this business.
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  Speaker 1: I hope Fox pays me a million dollars now to
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  Speaker 1: do TV. We'll see what happens. I'll keep you updated.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Overrated, underrated, appropriately rated. Garrett Bowles as the 37th best
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  Speaker 2: overall player in the NFL Top 100.
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  Speaker 1: That's very high. 37th best player in the NFL? Yeah, 37th.
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  Speaker 2: Last year, he was ranked number 98. Last year was
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  Speaker 2: his first ever first-team All-Pro nod. He finished with the
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  Speaker 2: highest pass block win rate of his career, which was
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  Speaker 2: 94% top 10 in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's still high. The Broncos' line is really good.
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  Speaker 1: They're really fun to watch. They've really grown over the years.
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  Speaker 1: Garrett Bowles has grown. Quinn Miners has gotten a lot better. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: he's an all-pro now, right guard. That still feels high.
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  Speaker 1: I guess... The thing about this thing is not every
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  Speaker 1: quarterback can be 1 through 30, right? That's why it
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  Speaker 1: feels like 37 feels a little high for him. But
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  Speaker 1: he did great year last year. It's not the worst
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  Speaker 1: spot I've seen someone rate.
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  Speaker 2: Fred Warner at 20.
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  Speaker 1: Feels about right.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Panay Sewell, your guy, at 13 overall. No, sorry,
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  Speaker 2: 12 overall.
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  Speaker 1: Is there any offensive lineman ahead of him? He's probably
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  Speaker 1: number one, right?
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  Speaker 2: He is the highest-rated offensive lineman on the list.
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  Speaker 1: That's fair. Twelve? Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Twelve.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The blurb says... I think he's a.
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  Speaker 1: I think Dwayne Johnson's better, but that's just my opinion on...
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  Speaker 1: I think that we... One thing in the offensive line
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  Speaker 1: community that we do... I think, to a fault is
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  Speaker 1: we love run blocking, right? We love the cool run blocking.
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  Speaker 1: We love the cool pancakes. We do not take into
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  Speaker 1: consideration pass protection, and Lane Johnson is significantly better than
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  Speaker 1: Penesol with that, and that's a tougher job. Pass protection
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  Speaker 1: is tougher to do than run blocking, and Lane gets
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  Speaker 1: no help. I just think Lane's a better pass protector. That,
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  Speaker 1: to me, weights the offensive lineman differently, and I know
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  Speaker 1: people might not agree with that. I get that, but
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  Speaker 1: I think Lane is the best right tackle in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: I know Panay's going to the left.
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  Speaker 2: Panay's going to left tackle. What do you think that
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  Speaker 2: looks like? How steep is that learning curve?
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  Speaker 1: Well, remember, he won that one trophy in college at
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  Speaker 1: left tackle. Yeah, that's good. That's pretty good, right, I think.
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  Speaker 1: And if you recall, he played left tackle for, I think,
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  Speaker 1: the first six weeks in Detroit. Remember, he had a
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  Speaker 1: really tough preseason at right tackle, and Taylor Decker got hurt,
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  Speaker 1: and he went into left tackle and played really, really well.
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  Speaker 1: and then went back out to right tackle when Decker
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  Speaker 1: came back. So I have the utmost faith in him.
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  Speaker 1: I really do. I don't think that's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Puka Nakua rated number six best player overall in the league.
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  Speaker 2: Only one receiver higher than him. Do you agree? Properly rated, overrated, underrated?
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  Speaker 1: Who's higher than him? JSN?
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  Speaker 2: No. Jamar Chase.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that's fair. Okay. Yeah, that's fair. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Pukunuku has got to deal with some of this off-field stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but I think that he's as talented as any one
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  Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: The number one overall player in the league, Miles Garrett.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's fair.
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  Speaker 2: And now it's official. We've talked about this. We both
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  Speaker 2: thought it was going to happen, and it is happening.
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Donald, Miles Garrett, officially together on that defensive line
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  Speaker 2: for the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, buddy, good luck. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I just talked to my brother on my podcast.
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  Speaker 1: New podcast, always. Schwartz Football Show. Mitch and I are
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  Speaker 1: doing a show now together.
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  Speaker 2: When do I get to be a guest?
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  Speaker 1: Today. I'm going to re-record, actually, for you to come on.
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  Speaker 1: We were talking about this. I don't even know how
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  Speaker 1: do you stop this. There's no great way to stop
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  Speaker 1: both of them on the left side of the line
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  Speaker 1: of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's amazing? So you and I spent all
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  Speaker 2: those years together on Pac-12 radio, and there were some
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  Speaker 2: awesome linebackers that came through. Nate Landman is a guy
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  Speaker 2: that I really liked because of his background. Omar Spates,
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  Speaker 2: we talked about him a lot when he was at
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  Speaker 2: Oregon State. Those guys are going to be playing behind
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  Speaker 2: this defensive line. Nate Landman was already a tackling machine.
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  Speaker 2: Nate Landman is now just unblocked on every down, basically.
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  Speaker 1: It's just going to be... A free throw for everyone.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, even the other side of the line of scrimmage, right?
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  Speaker 1: You have to worry about Miles and Donald. How about
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  Speaker 1: the other defensive linemen? They're going to have such a
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  Speaker 1: fun time this season not getting double teamed ever. And
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  Speaker 1: then Donald will work his way in. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: right away he's going to play. I'm not even sure
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  Speaker 1: he plays in Australia. That's a long fight for an
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  Speaker 1: old guy to have to endure and then go play football.
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't played in three years. But I do think
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  Speaker 1: that he's going to be good. I don't think Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Donald will come back. Will he be 100% of himself?
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  Speaker 1: Probably not. But he's definitely not going to come back
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  Speaker 1: if he thinks he's going to stink.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of that Australia game, Sean McVay said that they
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  Speaker 2: are arriving in Melbourne 24 hours before the game, like
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  Speaker 2: a normal road trip.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think of that? I mean, that feels crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how many people have traveled that far
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  Speaker 2: have gone to New Zealand or Australia. It is one
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  Speaker 2: of the toughest trips you're going to make from a
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  Speaker 2: body clock standpoint. So I don't know how they manage that.
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  Speaker 2: The Niners are going out a week early. The Rams
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  Speaker 2: are showing up a day early.
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  Speaker 1: So I think their thought is about recovery, that this
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  Speaker 1: keeps them on the same, close enough to the same
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  Speaker 1: time zone calendar, you know, not time zone, just time
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  Speaker 1: zone they would be on back home. Like it just
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  Speaker 1: keeps them more uniform for when they return, Sean. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what I think their thought process is here. it's
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  Speaker 1: just that, you know, we, we have less on the
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  Speaker 1: way back. We have less to worry about than we
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  Speaker 1: do going there. And we could suck it up to
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  Speaker 1: go there, but that coming back, we want to be
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  Speaker 1: as close as possible to our time.
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  Speaker 2: Zone right now, as we are speaking, it is five
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  Speaker 2: 19 in the morning on Wednesday in Melbourne, Australia. So
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  Speaker 2: it's a big, it's a big time difference.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. But I think they're hoping on the
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  Speaker 1: way back that there's less of an adjustment period coming
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  Speaker 1: home if they just are there for 24 hours. That's
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  Speaker 1: my guess.
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  Speaker 2: This is a fun fact. It's apropos of nothing. But
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  Speaker 2: if you look it up right now, you can confirm.
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  Speaker 2: Right now it's 519 a.m. Wednesday morning in Melbourne, Australia,
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  Speaker 2: which is close to the east coast of Australia. The
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  Speaker 2: middle of Australia, South Australia, Adelaide, where I fought one time.
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  Speaker 2: Is a half hour different. It's a half hour time
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  Speaker 2: zone change.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting. Did you win that fight?
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  Speaker 2: I did. But isn't that such a weird thing?
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  Speaker 1: That's odd.
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  Speaker 2: A half hour difference time zone?
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  Speaker 1: How did you win that fight? What was the decision?
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  Speaker 1: How did it happen?
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  Speaker 2: I knocked out the guy in like 45 seconds or something.
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  Speaker 1: Good for you. What a waste of a trip. 45
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  Speaker 1: second knockout?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it was awesome though because the fight, when they
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  Speaker 2: take you like super far away sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You fight at a super strange time locally so that
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  Speaker 2: it's on television in the U S at like a
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  Speaker 2: normal time. So we fought at like noon on a
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  Speaker 2: Sunday so that it would be on it, like whatever
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  Speaker 2: it was, 10 PM on a Saturday. And so walked
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  Speaker 2: out of the arena after fighting and it's like the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the day. And we just went to an
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  Speaker 2: Aussie rules football game later and just hung out.
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  Speaker 1: Nice. Okay. That's cool. No swelling, no bruising for you.
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  Speaker 1: I like it.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, TCU North Carolina played at the Aviva Stadium Dublin kickoff, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: the Aer Lingus kickoff classic, and TCU stunk. They looked terrible.
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  Speaker 2: They looked undisciplined. They looked sloppy. I know first game
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  Speaker 2: of the season, you kind of expect a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of this. I didn't expect them to be so bad,
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  Speaker 2: especially offensively, because Sonny Dykes kind of butters his bread there.
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  Speaker 2: Should I be overreacting the way that I am?
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  Speaker 1: So I think that the general rule of thumb is
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  Speaker 1: that you're never as good or bad as your first game, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like it's your first game. It takes time to work
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  Speaker 1: into what you want to be as a team. But
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  Speaker 1: I will say, Sean, I've kind of been hardened by
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  Speaker 1: this over the years. I'm going to steal this a
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  Speaker 1: little bit from Dan Rubenstein, who does Solid Verbal, a
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  Speaker 1: good friend of mine, and we've had him on many
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  Speaker 1: times when we used to do radio. It's like the
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  Speaker 1: FCS transfer from FCS– to power for a ball at quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: not very good a lot of times. Like, we love
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  Speaker 1: to talk about him in a way that, like, is grand.
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  Speaker 1: But this was a Harvard kid making his first start
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  Speaker 1: against a real, actual, like, defense, you know? Like, it's just...
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  Speaker 1: it's hard. And we do this all the time where
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  Speaker 1: we just look at these FCS quarterbacks. Like, yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: could just do it. They're moving up. How cool is this?
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  Speaker 1: The best quarterback at UC Davis is now playing for
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  Speaker 1: Oregon state. It's hard, dude. I, I, I think that
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  Speaker 1: we overlooked that every single time. This is another situation
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  Speaker 1: where you had the same situation pop up where this
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  Speaker 1: Harvard kid just wasn't ready to play in North Carolina yet.
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  Speaker 1: And he might, well, there's, he might be ready in,
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  Speaker 1: in three weeks to play. better, but he just wasn't
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  Speaker 1: ready yet offensively. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I'm now scratching off TCU as a threat in the
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  Speaker 2: Big 12 Conference.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's great. North Carolina didn't play well either.
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  Speaker 1: Both teams tried to lose this game. They didn't, but
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  Speaker 1: they both tried.
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  Speaker 2: Week one, the week one slate is pretty lackluster, actually.
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  Speaker 2: Week one slate. What games have your attention? I know
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  Speaker 2: it's not really Utah-Idaho.
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  Speaker 1: Is that Thursday, too?
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  Speaker 2: Thursday night, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You going to that?
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  Speaker 2: Colorado-Georgia Tech also, same night, which is maybe.
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  Speaker 1: So, I took Colorado plus seven. Okay. I hate it,
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  Speaker 1: but I think Georgia Tech, like, lost a lot last season,
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  Speaker 1: from last season. Quarterback, OC. The thing about it is that, like,
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  Speaker 1: I think seven points allows me to at least push
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  Speaker 1: on any sort of Deion Sanders coach management issues in
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  Speaker 1: the game. You know what I mean? Like... Let's say
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  Speaker 1: they're up three. He does a dumb clock management and
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  Speaker 1: they lose by four. I'm good. I'm set. Game's tied.
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  Speaker 1: They lose by seven or three. I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 1: set with seven to avoid... I do not like betting
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  Speaker 1: on coaches I don't think are good. And Dion has
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  Speaker 1: shown game management is not his strong suit. But I
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  Speaker 1: think Juju Lewis is an interesting quarterback. His first game
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  Speaker 1: with a brand new offense, it really... Georgia Tech won't
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  Speaker 1: be prepared for it. They won't have seen this go-go
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  Speaker 1: in the flesh. I think Colorado covers that game. What
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  Speaker 1: are the games on the weekend? Of course, LSU, Clemson,
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  Speaker 1: Ole Miss, Louisville. I've got to do some more on that.
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  Speaker 1: I've done a lot of the West Coast schools already
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  Speaker 1: and prepped for them. I'd be pretty upset if Oregon
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  Speaker 1: did not cover 24.5 against Boise State. I think we're
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  Speaker 1: much better than that Boise, and we should be able
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  Speaker 1: to handle business there. I think USC-Fresno State is going
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  Speaker 1: to be over. I do really think that they're going
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  Speaker 1: to score a lot in that game. Look, I know
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  Speaker 1: USC fans that didn't show up for the game on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: but I got them covered with the film review. Sean,
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  Speaker 1: if I told you that USC played San Jose State,
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  Speaker 1: who defensively turned like 24% of production from their bad
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  Speaker 1: defense last year And they had zero explosive plays on
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  Speaker 1: offense the entire game. Do you think that's odd, right?
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  Speaker 2: It's not great.
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  Speaker 1: Right? People think it's weird when I say that. That's
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  Speaker 1: the truth of it. They didn't know explosive plays.
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  Speaker 2: What is an explosive run in the NFL, Jeff Schwartz definition?
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  Speaker 1: I think it's different in college NFL because it's harder
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: to get. Yeah. But I think explosive plays in college,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: I've got a running account that's 15 yards in college football. Okay.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Explosive run play college football. I'm looking right now. Yeah,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: a rushing play of 10 or more. They had a
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: couple rushes of 11 and one of 16 in this game.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: But it went down as no explosive plays on.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: The website. So I don't know. Yeah.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, even if you only have, I mean, you
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: had fewer than San Jose State did.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: In that game, if you're USC.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: The two starting running backs for USC, the longest rush
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: was 9-11. That's tough. In the first half, they rushed
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: for like 111 yards, and 56 of that were on
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: the first drive.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: You and I have talked over the years a lot
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: about UCLA. We were covering the conference when they hired
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Martin Jarmond, who was supposed to be this wunderkind 39-year-old guy.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: save everything, athletic director, your parents are UCLA alum, if
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken. They just fired the guy. He's $ 220
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: million in the hole over the last five years, despite
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: the fact that they joined the Big Ten, which is
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: supposed to be the thing that solves your problems. What
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: do you make of UCLA's leadership problem?
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how you get out of $ 260
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: million in debt and still be competitive in sports, right, Sean?
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Feels like impossible to do.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like Unless you have a mega-billionaire donor
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: that can wipe out that debt and hit a reset
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: button for you, which I don't even know if that's allowed.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what you do. Yeah.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, wasn't the change to the Big Ten supposed
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: to alleviate some of this?
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, and it hasn't.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: You know what's funny is the only school that really
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: has benefited from that is Oregon. I'm not sure USC
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: can claim they've benefited from being the Big Ten or
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: UCLA or Washington. Oregon's the only one that seems to
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: have actually benefited from this move.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Have they?
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I think we have. We're still out. The $ 35 million
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: that Oregon doesn't get because we get a half share
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: is really impactful for other sports. Oregon had, I think,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: two freshman All-American baseball players leave for the SEC this
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: past year, this past portal, like in June. And the
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: reason why they just can't pay as much. And part
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: of that is they can't pay as much because sec
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: schools make more money than they get.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: You know, we could do like a whole segment on
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: whether or not Oregon actually benefited from going to the
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: big 10, but.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Well, it was me. Are we saying that like, if, if,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: If USC and UCLA stayed out west, I would have
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: said stay in the Pac-12. Once they left, you had
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: to leave. Sure.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: You had to leave. I just don't know that, I mean,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know that, is Oregon better off from a
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: national perception standpoint?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I think so. Interesting. Winning the Big Ten, obviously, just
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: feels more impactful than winning the Big 12. You're on Fox.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think winning the conference matters like it used
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: to because of the expanded college football playoff. That's what
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: we judge you on. Like Texas Tech won the Big
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: 12 last year, but everyone's looking at them through the lens.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: If you got mollywhopped in your playoff opportunity, winning a
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: conference championship is great on the conference level. but Oregon
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: is now playing in the national waters and has been
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: for years.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Sure, but you're not getting a second. You can't say
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: you have one upset in the Pac-12. You're out of
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the playoff berth, right? That's not going to happen in
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten. That's fair. And so that's, I think,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: a big difference for Oregon.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Buddy Stevens got fired at East Mississippi. Are you okay?
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Thank you for asking. There are things in life you
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: just can't explain your pain from, and this is one
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: of them. Uh, I'm just, uh, I've been in a
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: bad mood all day. Meredith called me. I'm like, I'm heartbroken. Just,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: it just was, man, it's so sad. There are a
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: lot of Saturday stupids we have not been able to
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: do recently, including the home homeboy decided to be a
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: fake 49er.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I love that so much.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Kurt Herbstre explaining his method for getting boys. I'm like,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: do you really have to? Is that really necessary to
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: talk about that?
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Well, some of us don't have a son, so I
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: need to be paying attention.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: You should pay attention to that. I think the dog
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: thing has got it. We've got to be over there
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: pretty soon, right? Like the dog thing. People don't find
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: that cute anymore, do they?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: They do, and he got his own NIL deal this year,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: so you're not going to get less of him. You're
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: going to get more.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Did you realize that he replaced the dead dog with
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: a new dog within like four days? Yes.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Well, he never just had one dog, though.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: He has four dogs. But the new Pete, he was
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: on the road with him within three days. There was
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: just a transition right immediately to the new dog. No
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: mourning period whatsoever for the old dog.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. It's tough.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the fake 49er guy is incredible.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I'm sad I didn't come up with the idea and
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: scam Pete. scam my way into some success.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Did you watch him running routes on the, on the,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: in the sand? Just incredibly funny. Yes.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I'm so like, I thought that catfish, the television show
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: and catfish, the documentary made it. So you can't catch,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: you can't catfish people anymore, but you still can. Folks
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: don't realize like you don't learn from other people's mistakes.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Apparently it blows my mind. He left a voice memo
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: on one of these girls phones. It was like, To
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: clear waivers in the NFL, they have you to clear emotionally, mentally, physically,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: and emotionally, and I only cleared one of the three.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: So funny, dude.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: All right, we're overclocked because that's what I do every
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: single time.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, Dan Lynch is texting us. Hello, Dan. No, he's
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: not listening right now, but he's texting me.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: He would never actually listen to my show, our former producer,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Dan Lynch.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: No, he never would.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you, dude. Enjoy the games this weekend. We'll chat
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: next week.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I'm going to Eugene, by the way. It should be fun.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, you are?
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Bring the kids up.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: For the Boise game? Yeah.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Nice. Should be fun.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Bringing the kids.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Bringing the kids.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: By the way, we got the save the date invitation thing.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Sure. Whatever Meredith is doing.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: And my wife, she doesn't. get excited about anything that
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: involves my life ever. But I showed her that and
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: she like jumped up and down celebrate. She's like, yes,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I've always wanted to go to a bar mitzvah.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Can I tell you how we're, how this is being framed?
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I think like, so Merritt did not get a wedding
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: in Charlotte. Our wedding was in Los Angeles. It was
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: mostly my friends. This is, this is her like, get back.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: This is like her, like, she's like, we're inviting 400 people.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: She claims. All right. So she was texting everyone the
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: exact information. I was like, can you just create a
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: link for people to look at? You don't have to
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: text everyone the same exact text. Send them a link
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: with all the information. So I've told you about where
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: we're doing this party, right? Yes.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Don't repeat it. It's going to be incredible. We're the
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: only one who's doing it like this. It's not going
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: to be public information, but it is going to be awesome.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: It's a great idea.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: It's a wonderful idea.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We're going to hire a band. I think we
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: looked at some bands recently.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: All my son wants is wings. That's what he said.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: To eat. He wants just wings?
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: He's like, you better have wings there. I was like, okay, sure.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Whatever you want, man. The greatest.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I also showed my wife the video of him prepping
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: to go to the bat mitzvah.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: It was awesome.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: He went to a second one this week. He's so
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: much cooler than me. He just runs into all his friends.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't have friends. Good for him.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Well, now you got one.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: It's me. Who, foe?
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: No, it's me.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, you. Okay. Sorry.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Thanks, dude. All right. Bye, buddy. Talk to you guys later.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz. I love that we can just go anywhere
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: when we talk to Jeff.