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- 0:00You know, usually when we talk about a medical diagnosis,
- 0:02there's this expectation of absolute precision.
- 0:05Right, like it's a math equation or something?
- 0:07Yeah, exactly. Wait, I mean, it's like
- 0:09engineering. You break your arm, the X-ray
- 0:11shows that jagged white line, and the Doctor just points at
- 0:14the film and said, well, there it is, that's the problem.
- 0:17It's binary, it's broken or it's not broken.
- 0:20It's clean, it's visible, and we can categorize it neatly so we
- 0:25know what we're dealing with. We love a clear diagnosis
- 0:28because it dictates a clear treatment plan.
- 0:31But then you step into the world of the human soul and suddenly
- 0:34that X-ray machine is it's useless.
- 0:39We're looking at a diagnostic landscape that is, quite
- 0:42honestly pretty murky. Oh, absolutely.
- 0:45When we try to figure out why someone rejects the gospel.
- 0:48Or you know why a person sits in a Pew for decades without any
- 0:51genuine change? The reasons are rarely as clear
- 0:54as a snapped bone. It's the absolute definition of
- 0:57diagnostic Muddy Waters. I mean, the symptoms might look
- 0:59like one thing, but the underlying disease is something
- 1:02else entirely. Yeah, that's a good way to put
- 1:04it. We see the outward behavior.
- 1:06Maybe it's outright hostility, or maybe it's just polite
- 1:08nodding. But the internal spiritual
- 1:11condition is completely hidden from Plainview, and treating a
- 1:14misdiagnosed illness can sometimes be worse than doing
- 1:17nothing at all. Welcome to Reformed Thinking.
- 1:21For those of you listening, we're really glad to have you
- 1:22sitting in with us today as the third person in the room.
- 1:25Glad you're here with us. We have an incredibly
- 1:28fascinating stack of source material.
- 1:30Today we're doing a deep dive into Charles Spurgeon,
- 1:33specifically excerpts from his work The Soul Winner A.
- 1:36Classic. It really is.
- 1:38We are zeroing in on a section where he outlines the specific
- 1:42obstacles to winning souls. We're going to unpack these
- 1:45historical, yet painfully timeless barriers to faith.
- 1:49And we'll look at everything from sheer apathy to secret,
- 1:53hidden sins. Right.
- 1:54And we'll analyze all of this through a lens consistent with
- 1:57Reformed theology and the Westminster Confession.
- 2:00So let's jump right into the first massive obstacle Spurgeon
- 2:03identifies. Sounds good, let's do it.
- 2:05It's one that might actually surprise some people because it
- 2:08isn't active, hostile infidelity.
- 2:11It's just indifference. It's.
- 2:12Lethargy. Just a complete lack of
- 2:14interest, yeah. Spurgeon points out that in many
- 2:17districts, people simply don't care enough about religion to
- 2:20even oppose it. They aren't concerned with what
- 2:22you preach, they have no thought of God, and they only use His
- 2:26name when they're swearing. Which is a pretty bleak picture,
- 2:30it is. But here is where it gets really
- 2:32fascinating. Spurgeon makes this observation
- 2:35linking economic stagnation to spiritual apathy.
- 2:39He notes that in the Thames Valley, during a time when
- 2:42business was slack and trade was down, a preacher might kill
- 2:46himself preaching and see absolutely 0 result.
- 2:49Right. The economic conditions were
- 2:50bleeding into the spiritual ones, Yeah.
- 2:52And he saw the same dynamic among the Negroes of Jamaica.
- 2:55A lack of physical work correlated with very little
- 2:58prosperity in the churches. It's an interesting correlation
- 3:01when. I read this, my mind went to
- 3:03wetwood. Oh, I like that analogy.
- 3:05It's not that the wood is actively fighting the fire,
- 3:08right? It's just incapable catching a
- 3:10spark. Yeah, it just sits there.
- 3:12But I don't quite buy the psychology here on first glance.
- 3:16I mean, if I lose my job and my business dries up and I'm
- 3:19struggling to feed my family, wouldn't I be more likely to cry
- 3:23out to God? You would certainly think so.
- 3:26So why does an economic downturn produce this lethargy that
- 3:29Spurgeon compares to an earthworm wriggling away out of
- 3:33reach? Why does financial ruin result
- 3:36in spiritual deadness rather than a spiritual awakening?
- 3:40That's a really perceptive way to frame the tension, and it
- 3:43drives right to the heart of the reformed view of the natural
- 3:46human disposition, OK. Lay it on me.
- 3:48To understand this, we have to look at the doctrine of total
- 3:50depravity as articulated in the Westminster Confession.
- 3:53By nature, fallen humanity isn't just spiritually sick or
- 3:58slightly injured, we are spiritually dead.
- 4:00Right. Dead in trespasses and sins.
- 4:02Exactly. Without the regenerating of the
- 4:04Holy Spirit, the default state of the human heart is coldness
- 4:07and enmity toward God. Now, when times are prosperous,
- 4:11or when a society has a bustling economic life, there's a kind of
- 4:14external structure. Like a rhythm to daily life.
- 4:18Yes, a rhythm that mimics vitality.
- 4:20People have a purpose in their daily work.
- 4:22They have schedules, social expectations, and that earthly
- 4:27purpose can mask the underlying spiritual void.
- 4:30That makes a lot of sense, no? So they look alive because
- 4:33they're busy. Precisely when those external
- 4:35structures fall away, when the work dries up in the Thames
- 4:38Valley, the result isn't an automatic turn to the divine.
- 4:42Instead, the collapse of the earthly structure simply exposes
- 4:46the spiritual decay that was already there all along.
- 4:48Wow. So the hardship just pulls back
- 4:50the curtain, Yeah. The natural man, when stripped
- 4:53of his earthly comforts and distractions, doesn't natively
- 4:55possess the spiritual life required to seek God.
- 4:58He just sinks into a heavier, more obvious lethargy.
- 5:01So my wet wood analogy, your. Wet wood analogy hits the mark
- 5:05perfectly. The economic depression is like
- 5:07a torrential rain on wood that has already dead.
- 5:10The rain didn't kill the wood, but it made it undeniably
- 5:13obvious that the wood cannot catch fire.
- 5:14That is sobering. It is now Spurgeon's pastoral
- 5:17remedy for this is striking. He doesn't suggest a new
- 5:20economic policy or a softer, more entertaining message to
- 5:24draw a crowd. What does he suggest?
- 5:26He says the preacher must be doubly in earnest.
- 5:29The preacher must possess A vehement, burning, blazing, all
- 5:32consuming zeal. So the preacher brings the fire.
- 5:35Yes, if the environment is freezing cold, the minister must
- 5:39burn hot enough to counteract the surrounding apathy.
- 5:43The preacher's zeal becomes the instrument the Spirit uses to
- 5:46Pierce that lethargy. Because there's zero warmth
- 5:49resident in the listener. Spot on.
- 5:50The warmth has to come entirely from the outside.
- 5:52OK, so if indifference is this passive block, a kind of
- 5:56freezing cold where the person just shrugs, what happens when
- 6:00the intellect actively resists the truth?
- 6:02That is a very different beast, yeah.
- 6:04Spurgeon moves from the apathetic worker to the act of
- 6:06unbeliever. Unbelieve takes a pronounced
- 6:09form when individuals consciously elevate their own
- 6:12opinions above God's inspired declarations.
- 6:15Which is basically the core of human pride.
- 6:17Right. And Spurgeon issues a really
- 6:19strong warning here. He says we should never fight
- 6:21unbelievers with their own weapons.
- 6:23He argues against using what he calls paper pellets of reason.
- 6:26Paper pellets of reason. What a great phrase.
- 6:29It really is. He suggests that arguing for the
- 6:32pulpit often does more harm than good.
- 6:35In fact, he says that by trying to meticulously refute every new
- 6:39heresy, A preacher might inadvertently teach infidelity
- 6:44to young minds in the congregation.
- 6:45Minds who otherwise knew absolutely nothing of those
- 6:48false ideas in the first place. Exactly To illustrate this, he
- 6:51shares a remarkable anecdote about a man who sat in his
- 6:54congregation every single Sabbath.
- 6:57This man explicitly called Spurgeon an awful man because
- 7:01Spurgeon had absolutely no sympathy for his unbelief.
- 7:05That's. Quite an accusation.
- 7:06Yeah, but get this, this self-proclaimed unbeliever kept
- 7:10returning week after week. Because of the conviction,
- 7:13right? Because Spurgeon's calm faith
- 7:16and the visible results of that faith convinced the man of his
- 7:19own foolishness, the man admitted that seeing Spurgeon's
- 7:22conviction made him realize he was a fool.
- 7:24That's amazing. I.
- 7:25Think about this like a virus entering a body.
- 7:28If you argue with unbelief on its own terms, using only human
- 7:31logic, it's like giving a virus a host to mutate within.
- 7:34Oh, that's good. You don't cure the disease, you
- 7:37just create a smarter, more resilient resistance.
- 7:40But how do we square this approach with the biblical
- 7:43command to give a defense for the faith?
- 7:45Are we supposed to just ignore intellectual objections
- 7:49entirely? Well.
- 7:50We aren't ignoring them, but we are recognizing the true nature
- 7:53of the objection. When we filter Spurgeon's advice
- 7:56through the Westminster Confession stance on the human
- 7:59will and intellect, his refusal to argue on the unbelievers
- 8:02terms makes perfect sense. Because of how sin affects the
- 8:05mind. Yes, the Confession teaches that
- 8:08the fall corrupted the whole man, and that includes the mind.
- 8:11Theologians refer to this as the noetic effects of sin.
- 8:14The noetic effects, meaning the intellect itself is compromised.
- 8:18Right, because the intellect is darkened.
- 8:20Pure logic alone cannot resurrect A spiritually dead
- 8:23heart. Sin acts like a massive
- 8:25cognitive bias it. Twists.
- 8:27Things it twists. Logic suppresses truth and
- 8:30rationalizes rebellion to protect the ego.
- 8:33If you engage a person purely on the level of human philosophy,
- 8:37treating their objection as a purely academic puzzle, you are
- 8:40validating their false assumption.
- 8:42The assumption that they are the judge.
- 8:43Exactly. You are validating the idea that
- 8:46their fallen reason is the ultimate judge of universal
- 8:50truth. You are stepping onto their
- 8:52terrain and playing by rules that are rigged by their own
- 8:56spiritual blindness. So that's why Spurgeon called
- 8:59them Pedro pellets. Yeah, Spurgeon recognized that
- 9:02paper pellets of reason are completely insufficient against
- 9:04the armor of a hardened will. When Spurgeon refused to
- 9:08sympathize with that man's unbelief, he was refusing to
- 9:11pretend that the man's rebellion was a neutral intellectual.
- 9:14Problem. He treated it as a moral
- 9:16problem. Yes, by demonstrating resolute
- 9:19faith, Spurgeon confronted the man with a reality that logic
- 9:22could not dismiss. The authenticity of a believer's
- 9:25holiness and earnestness carries significantly more weight than
- 9:28any philosophical debate. You.
- 9:30Fight unbelief with belief. You fight falsehood with the
- 9:33truth. You don't cut and pare down the
- 9:35gospel to make it fit human follies.
- 9:37The Holy Spirit uses the unadulterated proclamation of
- 9:40the Word, backed by a holy life, to breakdown the barriers of the
- 9:44mind. So the virus analogy holds up.
- 9:46It holds up very well if you give the rebellious mind the
- 9:49debate it craves. It simply feeds on the argument
- 9:53getting stronger and more prideful.
- 9:56By presenting the pure truth and living it out, you administer
- 9:59the only cure capable of penetrating the disease.
- 10:03That makes a lot of sense. Active Unbelief uses intellect
- 10:06as a shield, but there's another tactic the human heart uses that
- 10:09doesn't require arguing at all, it just requires waiting.
- 10:13Spurgeon discusses 2 related barriers here, fatal delay and
- 10:17Carnal Security. Let's look at delay first the.
- 10:19Whole I'll do it tomorrow mindset.
- 10:21Exactly. Spurgeon compares this to the
- 10:24biblical story of Felix responding to the apostle Paul.
- 10:27Felix heard the truth, He actually felt the weight of it,
- 10:30but he parry the thrust by telling Paul he would wait for a
- 10:32convenient season. It's this tragic, endless
- 10:35procrastination, right? Then there's carnal security.
- 10:39This is the false assumption of safety.
- 10:41People look at themselves, they compare their actions favorably
- 10:44to their neighbors, and they conclude they're in a pretty
- 10:47safe position. They feel no dread of eternal
- 10:49destruction whatsoever. None.
- 10:52Now, Spurgeon is incredibly forceful regarding the remedy
- 10:56for these two traps. For the one delaying, he insists
- 10:59on pressing men for a speedy decision, declaring that now is
- 11:03the accepted time. No more waiting.
- 11:05And for the carnally secure, his advice is even more severe.
- 11:09He says the preacher must Thunder day and night to make
- 11:12the unbelieving Sinner tremble. Thunder day and night.
- 11:15That's a strong image. He issues a stark warning
- 11:18against preaching smooth things that are too soothing, stating
- 11:21that if we fail to declare the danger, part of the
- 11:24responsibility for the ruin lies at our door.
- 11:27But there's a tension here that we need to unpack.
- 11:30I mean, if we hold to the Reformed understanding that God
- 11:32alone changes the heart on his own sovereign timetable, why is
- 11:36there such an intense urgency to press for an immediate decision?
- 11:39That's a very common question, right?
- 11:41Why are we commanded to make the Sinner tremble right now, today,
- 11:44if the time your regeneration is entirely in God's hands?
- 11:47That tension is one of the most vital aspects of Reformed
- 11:50pastoral practice, and misunderstanding it leads to
- 11:54terrible errors. The Westminster Confession holds
- 11:57firmly to the sovereignty of God in salvation.
- 12:00Right. It is God, the Holy Spirit who
- 12:02applies the redemption. Working when and where and how
- 12:05He pleases, However, this internal sovereign work of the
- 12:08Spirit is ordinarily accomplished through the
- 12:11external call of the gospel. OK, so the preaching is the
- 12:14mechanism, yes? The preacher or the witnessing
- 12:17Christian is the instrument of that external call, and that
- 12:20external call must always be urgent, because the reality of
- 12:23sin is urgent. So the urgent is based on the
- 12:26actual danger. Precisely when Spurgeon thunders
- 12:29from the pulpit, he is not trying to manipulate the human
- 12:33will through sheer psychological force or emotional abuse.
- 12:36He is faithfully administering the means God has ordained to
- 12:39awaken the dead. And preaching smooth things.
- 12:42Preaching smooth things is pastoral malpractice because it
- 12:45colludes with the sinner's delusion.
- 12:47Carnal security is a lethal anesthesia.
- 12:50The individual thinks they are perfectly healthy while a fatal
- 12:53disease runs its cords through their veins.
- 12:56Thundering is to wake them up. To shatter that false peace,
- 12:59yes, the moral law must be preached.
- 13:01In all its terrifying purity. The law thunders against our
- 13:05self righteousness. It destroys the grading curve we
- 13:08use to compare ourselves to others.
- 13:10It shows them they are, as Spurgeon says, condemned
- 13:13already. Right.
- 13:14The urgency of the preacher pressing for a decision today,
- 13:17right now, reflects the objective reality that tomorrow
- 13:20is not promised to anyone and God's wrath against sin is real.
- 13:25That makes the preacher's job incredibly weighty.
- 13:27It is. We preach with absolute urgency,
- 13:30knowing full well that it is the Spirit who uses that very
- 13:34urgency to awaken the dead heart according His perfect timetable.
- 13:38The sovereignty of God isn't an excuse for our passivity.
- 13:42It's the only guarantee that our urgent preaching won't be in
- 13:44vain. So the law is the hammer that
- 13:46shatters the false peace. But what happens when the hammer
- 13:49hits too hard, or when a person misinterprets the resulting
- 13:52brokenness? That's a dangerous swing of the
- 13:54pendulum. Yeah, for carnal security is the
- 13:56danger of feeling too safe. What happens when the pendulum
- 14:00swings entirely the other way? Spurgeon talks about people who
- 14:03feel absolutely no hope, and he calls this the paralysis of
- 14:07despair. They act as if they are encased
- 14:10in solid steel. Encased in steel, right?
- 14:12What is particularly fascinating here is the specific theological
- 14:16distortion Spurgeon tackles. To address this.
- 14:20He points out that some people have been taught that the work
- 14:22of salvation is something of God altogether apart from the
- 14:24Sinner. This leads to the excuse, if
- 14:27salvation is for me, it will come to me in due time.
- 14:31Spurgeon acknowledges there is a great truth hidden in that idea,
- 14:34referencing God's sovereignty, but left by itself without
- 14:38qualification, he labels it a horrible falsehood.
- 14:41And he's right to call it that. He distinguishes this clearly as
- 14:44fatalism, not predestination. I think about this like a
- 14:48passenger on a plane that is going down.
- 14:50Someone hands them a parachute and they refused to put it on.
- 14:53Claiming that whatever happens is just faded to happen.
- 14:56Exactly, claiming that if gravity dictates they survive,
- 14:59they will survive, and if the universe dictates they crash,
- 15:03they will crash regardless of their actions.
- 15:05Which sounds logical on the surface to some people.
- 15:07Right, but it's a complete misunderstanding of how the
- 15:10system works. Can you break down the mechanics
- 15:13of this distinction? Why is confusing fig.
- 15:16Lism with predestination such a lethal obstacle?
- 15:20Well, the distinction between cold fatalism and the reformed
- 15:23Dr. of predestination is massive, and getting it wrong
- 15:27leaves people in that steel casing of despair.
- 15:30How so? Fatalism is fundamentally A
- 15:32Pagan concept. It views the universe as a
- 15:35machine driven by an impersonal, blind, unfeeling force.
- 15:39In fatalism, the end result is fixed regardless of the choices
- 15:42made along the way. So human action is totally
- 15:45meaningless in that view. Yes, it destroys human
- 15:47responsibility and obliterates any reason for hope.
- 15:49You just sit back and wait for the inevitable.
- 15:51But the Reformed doctrine of predestination as outlined in
- 15:54the confession is entirely different.
- 15:55It's a personal God ordaining things.
- 15:58Right. It teaches that God, the loving
- 16:00and personal Creator, has ordained the ends, but He has
- 16:04also ordained the means to those ends.
- 16:06The. Means OK, that's the key.
- 16:08Yes, God has chosen his people, but He has also decreed that
- 16:12they will be saved through the hearing of the gospel, through
- 16:15the conviction of sin, through repentance, and through faith in
- 16:19Jesus Christ. So the parachute in my analogy,
- 16:22the. Parachute represents the means
- 16:23of grace. To refuse the parachute is to
- 16:26refuse God's ordained method of deliverance.
- 16:29The Sinner is explicitly commanded in Scripture to ask
- 16:33for mercy, to repent, and to cast their guilty soul on
- 16:36Christ. So sitting back and doing
- 16:38nothing is actually disobedience.
- 16:40Exactly, When a person uses theology as an excuse to remain
- 16:44passive, saying I'll just wait for God to save me if I'm elect,
- 16:47they're hiding their rebellion behind a theological distortion.
- 16:50Wow. And Spurgeon's solution to this?
- 16:52It's. Brilliant.
- 16:53He says we must preach full and free salvation to awaken hope in
- 16:56the despairing spirit. If the preacher only talks about
- 16:59the mechanics of election without offering the free grace
- 17:01of Christ to all who will look to him, he leaves the Sinner in
- 17:04that steel casing, the. Offer has to be wide open.
- 17:07The gospel invitation must be thrown wide open.
- 17:10Who, whoever believes, will not perish.
- 17:13That broad free offer is the very tool the Spirit uses to
- 17:17draw the elect out of their despair and into faith.
- 17:21But sometimes that theological excuse that I can't be saved
- 17:26unless God does it, is just a smokescreen for something much
- 17:29more tangible. But something they don't want to
- 17:31give up, yeah. Despair might say I cannot be
- 17:33saved, but in reality the individual harbors a hidden
- 17:36reason. They simply refuse to come
- 17:38forward. This brings us to the hidden
- 17:41chains, the love of secret sin, and the illusion of self
- 17:44righteousness. Those are heavy chains.
- 17:46Very heavy. Spurgeon gets very specific
- 17:49about the secret lusts that block many from faith.
- 17:52He lists a man entangled in fornication with a woman not his
- 17:55wife. He mentions dishonest business
- 17:57transactions and he talks extensively about excessive
- 18:00drinking. The drinking 1 is really
- 18:02insightful. It is with drinking he makes a
- 18:05really keen observation about how it affects the emotions.
- 18:08He says these men get soft headed with a maudlin
- 18:11sensitiveness during preaching maudlin.
- 18:13Sensitiveness. That's a great description.
- 18:15Yeah, they might cry, they might look very affected by the
- 18:18sermon, but they will not change their lives as long as they
- 18:20cling to the cup of devils, right Then he flips the coin to
- 18:24look at self righteousness. These are the people who claim
- 18:27they have kept all the commandments from their youth.
- 18:30Spurgeon says a full heart has no room for Christ.
- 18:33He insists that Moses must come with the Law to show them their
- 18:36true fallen state. Back to the law shattering the
- 18:39false peace, yes? Now I have to admit, I find the
- 18:44psychology of that first group baffling.
- 18:46It is genuinely shocking to me that a person can sit under
- 18:50preaching, feel genuine tenderness of heart, even
- 18:53shedding real tears, and yet remain totally bound by a hidden
- 18:56sin it. Happens all the time though.
- 18:58But how? How can a person experience that
- 19:01level of emotional resonance with the truth while
- 19:03simultaneously clinging to a harlot or a fraudulent Ledger?
- 19:06It is shocking, but it is a profoundly accurate reading of
- 19:09human nature, and it ties directly back to what we
- 19:12discussed earlier regarding total depravity.
- 19:14So the emotions are depraved too.
- 19:16Yes, we often confuse emotional arousal with spiritual
- 19:20regeneration. The Westminster Confession
- 19:22teaches that the affections or emotions are part of the fallen
- 19:26human nature. So crying doesn't mean you're
- 19:28saved. Not at all.
- 19:31A person can have a natural emotional reaction to a moving
- 19:35sermon, A tragic story, or majestic piece of music without
- 19:38the Holy Spirit actually changing their fundamental
- 19:41disposition. OK, that makes sense.
- 19:43Spurgeon's phrase model insensitiveness captures this
- 19:46perfectly. The alcohol or the sheer drama
- 19:49of the preaching or the atmosphere of the room
- 19:51manipulates the surface emotions.
- 19:53They shed watery tears. They might even feel a temporary
- 19:56sense of regret. But their will is still
- 19:58enslaved. Exactly.
- 20:00Their will remains completely enslaved to their idol, whether
- 20:02that is the cup of devils, the illicit relationship or the
- 20:05stolen money. The emotional response does not
- 20:08equal regeneration. Because true repentance requires
- 20:12action. True repentance involves a
- 20:14change of mind and a turning away from the sin.
- 20:17This is why Spurgeon says the preacher must keep aiming the
- 20:20arrow at the joint in the sinners harness the preaching
- 20:23has to bypass the shallow emotions and strike the
- 20:26conscience and. What about the self-righteous
- 20:28person? Well, the self-righteous person
- 20:30is equally enslaved just to a more socially acceptable idol.
- 20:34Their own pride, right? When Spurgeon says Moses must
- 20:38come with the law, he is talking about the pedagogical use of the
- 20:41moral law. The law acts as a strict
- 20:44schoolmaster. It's the spiritual X-ray we
- 20:46talked about at the very beginning of our conversation.
- 20:49It shows the break. Yes, it shines A blinding light
- 20:52on the heart to reveal that our supposed righteousness, our good
- 20:55deeds, are filthy rags. Until the law crushes that self
- 20:59righteousness and exposes the hidden rod of those secret sins,
- 21:03the person will never see their desperate need for the Great
- 21:05Physician. These hidden sins often exist in
- 21:08the shadows of a person private life behind closed doors, but
- 21:12the next obstacle is completely out of the open.
- 21:15It's very. Visible, very visible, and it
- 21:18dictates a person's life on a very material, physical level.
- 21:22Spurgeon addresses the two faces of worldliness.
- 21:25He shows how worldliness effects both the destitute and the
- 21:28wealthy, rendering them completely deaf to the gospel,
- 21:31but for entirely different reasons.
- 21:33The. Pressures are different, but the
- 21:34result is the same. Right.
- 21:36For the poor, grinding poverty causes them to fixate entirely.
- 21:40In physical survival. They're constantly asking what
- 21:42shall we eat? It's a basic survival mechanism,
- 21:45yeah. And Spurgeon points out that
- 21:46Christ fed the hungry multitude because relieving physical
- 21:49destitution makes a person capable of listening you.
- 21:52Can't hear the gospel over a starving stomach?
- 21:55Exactly. Conversely, the wealthy obsess
- 21:57over fashion. Spurgeon vividly describes
- 22:00gentlemen who must be fashionable, daughters dressed
- 22:03in the best style, and sons learning to dance.
- 22:05The Victorian equivalent of keeping up with the Joneses,
- 22:07Yeah. He calls this specific sort of
- 22:10worldliness the curse of non conformist churches.
- 22:13Then he identifies 1/3 type, the miserly shopkeeper.
- 22:16This man is deafened by the chink of 30 pieces of silver
- 22:19scraping up halfpennies, much like Judas.
- 22:22The love of money. Right.
- 22:24I look at this like listening to a radio broadcast.
- 22:26Extreme poverty is like a deafening static on the line.
- 22:30You cannot hear the message because the noise of your empty
- 22:34stomach is too loud. That's a good way to put it.
- 22:36Extreme Wealth, on the other hand, is like playing a
- 22:38completely different, much louder song over the broadcast.
- 22:42Both scenarios prevent the actual message from being heard.
- 22:45Yeah, they both drown out the signal.
- 22:47So how do we approach this dual problem through a theological
- 22:51lens? How does the Church handle both
- 22:53the static of poverty and the loud song of wealth?
- 22:56Your radio analogy illustrates the mechanics of this perfectly.
- 23:00Let's analyze the static of poverty first.
- 23:03The Reformed tradition has a robust theology of the physical
- 23:06world. God created us as embodied
- 23:09souls. We are not just floating
- 23:11spirits. We have physical needs.
- 23:13Right when Spurgeon advocates for Christian charity feeding
- 23:15the hungry clothing the naked, he isn't suggesting we use food
- 23:19as a bribe for conversion. He is recognizing that extreme
- 23:22physical suffering severely impairs the human capacity to
- 23:25attend to spiritual realities. So.
- 23:27Charity clears the static. Exactly relieving that the
- 23:30suffering removes the physical static so the spiritual message
- 23:33can be heard. It is an act of common grace and
- 23:36a reflection of Christ's own compassion for the multitudes.
- 23:39But. What about the louder song of
- 23:41wealth? That is in many ways a more
- 23:44insidious trap. Poverty forces a person to
- 23:47recognize their dependence, even if only for physical bread.
- 23:51Wealth. Yates.
- 23:52An intoxicating illusion of complete independence.
- 23:55They think they don't need anyone, not even God.
- 23:57Yes. The obsession with fashion
- 24:00status and appearances that Spurgeon critiques is an
- 24:03idolatry of the self. And then there is the miserly
- 24:06shopkeeper. Spurgeon's reference to Judas is
- 24:09chilling when you stop and think about it.
- 24:10Because Judas was right there with Jesus.
- 24:12Judas was in the physical company of Christ.
- 24:15He heard the greatest sermons ever preached directly from the
- 24:17mouth of the Savior. He saw the miracles, yet the
- 24:21covetousness in his heart, the constant mental chink of those
- 24:2530 pieces of silver was louder than the voice of the Son of
- 24:28God. That is terrifying.
- 24:29It is the confession reminds us that sin is a corruption of our
- 24:33whole nature. Parsimony and covetousness are
- 24:37respectable sins in a capitalist society.
- 24:40We call it good business or being shrewd, but internally it
- 24:44is a spiritual poison that deafens the soul to the gospel.
- 24:47So what does the church do? Both faces of worldliness demand
- 24:51that the preacher boldly proclaim the temporary nature of
- 24:54this world and the eternal weight of the next.
- 24:57The church has to minister to the physical needs of the poor
- 25:00while simultaneously warning the rich of the deceitfulness of
- 25:03their wealth. That physical reality of
- 25:05worldliness bleeds directly into another physical obstacle.
- 25:09Spurgeon paints A vivid, almost cinematic picture of how
- 25:12physical spaces and daily habits dictate a person's life.
- 25:16The environment they live in. Yeah, now they can pull a person
- 25:18away from any good they might hear on a Sunday.
- 25:21He describes the working man's situation in 19th century
- 25:23London. He lives in A1 room home filled
- 25:25with crying children, damp drying linen hanging everywhere
- 25:29and a scolding wife. It sounds chaotic.
- 25:31It is a place of severe, inescapable discomfort.
- 25:35To escape this claustrophobia, the man flees to the bright
- 25:38gaslight, the warmth and the jolly companions of the Gin
- 25:41Palace. Which is designed to be
- 25:43appealing. Very appealing, and Spurgeon
- 25:46notes that any good the man might have received from the
- 25:48Sabbath hymns is completely wiped out by the comic songs and
- 25:52questionable tales in the bar parlor.
- 25:55It's an environment perfectly designed to obliterate spiritual
- 25:57conviction. It just washes it all away.
- 26:00Spurgeon's remedy here is very practical.
- 26:03He advocates for lawful means to wean people from evil
- 26:06associations. He mentions a blue ribbon
- 26:08meeting which was part of the temperance movement as a safe
- 26:11gathering place. So providing an alternative,
- 26:13right? It isn't just the place for
- 26:15singing and preaching, it is an alternative social space.
- 26:19By giving the man a physical way out of his habits, the result is
- 26:22tangible. He saves his money, he gets a
- 26:24better cottage so the linen can dry in the yard and the baby
- 26:27cries less because the mother has more resources to feed it.
- 26:30It improves his entire life. Now, if we translate the Gin
- 26:34Palace to modern times, we might think of the digital Gin Palace,
- 26:38social media algorithms designed to distract outrage and numb us.
- 26:42That's. A great comparison.
- 26:44My question is about the church's role in this.
- 26:46Does the Church step out of its bounds by creating these
- 26:50alternative social spaces? Is this kind of social
- 26:54reformation A distraction from the primary mission of preaching
- 26:58the Gospel? That is a question that has been
- 27:00debated heavily within Reformed circles for centuries.
- 27:04What is the proper scope of the Church's mission?
- 27:07Right, because we don't want to just become a social club.
- 27:09Exactly. To understand Spurgeon's
- 27:11approach, we have to frame this within the practical outworking
- 27:14of sanctification. The Confession makes it clear
- 27:17that justification is by faith alone, and the gospel alone is
- 27:20the strength of God unto salvation.
- 27:22The. Primary mandate.
- 27:23Church's primary mandate is the proclamation of the Word and the
- 27:26administration of the sacraments.
- 27:28However, believers are also called to love their neighbors
- 27:31and to foster environments where virtue can flourish.
- 27:34So it's both. Yes, Spurgeon is not suggesting
- 27:38that a blue ribbon meeting saves a man's soul.
- 27:40He knows that sobriety is not salvation.
- 27:43What he is doing is exercising intense pastoral wisdom.
- 27:47Knowing that the soil needs to be ready all.
- 27:49Right. He recognizes that you cannot
- 27:51expect a new plant to thrive if you leave it in toxic soil.
- 27:55Removing a man from the Gin Palace is a practical
- 27:57application of removing stumbling blocks to the gospel
- 28:01if a man is drunk six days a week, his mind is incapable of
- 28:04reasoning with the scriptures on the 7th day that.
- 28:06Makes perfect sense. You're clearing the path.
- 28:08By providing an alternative social environment, the church
- 28:12is ministering to the whole person.
- 28:14It is an expression of common grace.
- 28:16When the man's physical life stabilizes, when the baby is
- 28:19fed, the cottage is larger and his mind is clear, he is placed
- 28:23in a position where he can hear the word without the immediate,
- 28:26overwhelming distraction of his vices.
- 28:29So it's not replacing the gospel.
- 28:30Not at all. The church isn't replacing the
- 28:33gospel with social work. It is using lawful social means
- 28:36to clear the brush away so the seed of the gospel can be
- 28:39planted in good soil. In applying this today with the
- 28:41Digital Gin Palace. The Church must think critically
- 28:44about how to cultivate communities and practices that
- 28:47pull people out of the isolating algorithmic outrage machine so
- 28:51they can actually hear the still small voice of the Spirit.
- 28:55We have covered an immense amount of ground today.
- 28:57We really have. We started with the passive
- 28:59resistance of apathy and the way economic realities can expose
- 29:03our spiritual deadness. We analyzed the act of
- 29:06rebellion, of unbelief, and the danger of giving a mutating
- 29:09virus a host by arguing on the world's terms.
- 29:13We looked at the tragic traps of delaying decision and resting in
- 29:16a false carnal security. Yes, and we discussed the
- 29:19paralysis of despair, breaking down the crucial distinction
- 29:22between cold fatalism and true biblical predestination.
- 29:26We expose the hidden chains of secret sin, like the man weeping
- 29:30while holding the cup of devils and the self righteousness that
- 29:33requires the crushing weight of the moral law.
- 29:35The strict schoolmaster. We examine the loud distractions
- 29:38of worldliness, whether from the static of poverty or the louder
- 29:42song of wealth and covetousness. And finally, we looked at how
- 29:46our physical environment and daily habits, from the 19th
- 29:49century Gin Palace to our modern digital escapes, can either
- 29:53foster or destroy the work of the gospel in our lives.
- 29:56And through all of this, the theological wrap up brings us
- 29:59back to the sovereignty of God. The bottom line?
- 30:02While these obstacles are massive, whether they are
- 30:05intellectual, emotional, material or environmental, the
- 30:09Reformed view holds fast to the truth that God's grace is
- 30:13irresistible. It overcomes the most stubborn
- 30:16human resistance. Even the hardest heart.
- 30:19But it does so through means. It works through the faithful,
- 30:22unflinching proclamation of the truth, coupled with the
- 30:25authentic holy lives of believers who care enough to
- 30:27remove the physical and social stumbling blocks from their
- 30:30neighbors paths. Which?
- 30:31Brings us to our final thought for today.
- 30:34We have spent this whole time looking at these barriers as
- 30:36obstacles for the unbeliever. We've been analysing the people
- 30:39outside the church or the people sitting in the pews who have
- 30:41never truly believed. But I want to leave you, the
- 30:44listener, with a question to ponder as you look at this list.
- 30:49How many of these barriers are currently acting as obstacles in
- 30:53your own spiritual life right now?
- 30:55That is a challenging thought. We aren't immune just because we
- 30:58know the theology. Are you harboring a false carnal
- 31:01security based on the fact that you listen to deep dives like
- 31:04this one? Comparing your knowledge
- 31:06favorably to others? A.
- 31:07Very real danger. Is there a hidden covetousness,
- 31:11A subtle listening to the chink of silver in your daily work,
- 31:14that is drowning out the skirit? When we step back into the
- 31:18examination room and look at the X-ray of our own souls, what
- 31:22murky shadows are preventing us from fully submitting to the
- 31:25Great Physician? Something for all of us to
- 31:27consider. Truly thank you for sitting in
- 31:29with us today on Reform Thinking.
- 31:31We appreciate you taking this deep dive with us and we look
- 31:33forward to our next conversation.