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Speaker 1: Is the Gold Report.
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Speaker 2: Tonight? Why has labour let a twenty one year old
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Speaker 2: joined the Senate of Australia to decide our laws? What
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Speaker 2: does someone that young really know? Are we still allowed
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Speaker 2: to say that kind of thing about the young? Also tonight,
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Speaker 2: the horror in Liverpool, the car running down dozens of
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Speaker 2: people celebrating a soccer triumph, not a terror attacks. Say please,
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Speaker 2: I'll show you video of how it really started. The
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Speaker 2: story gets complicated. Plus France's president amidst his wife, his
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Speaker 2: former schoolteacher did hit him in the head during an argument.
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Speaker 2: Also tonight, the government document admits that high immigration is
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Speaker 2: making this housing crisis worse and dozens of wind projects
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Speaker 2: are now under threat. Have Australians had enough of these monsters?
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Speaker 2: But first to News Today that proves hand will facts
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Speaker 2: count in politics. It's discussing how easily your money SIPs
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Speaker 2: through the fingers of our politicians. Like this story today
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Speaker 2: in the Daily Telegraph. It should be a national scandal. Really,
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Speaker 2: nearly two billion dollars gone stolen, more than one hundred
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Speaker 2: people convicted for a wrought that many were taught on TikTok,
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Speaker 2: claiming fake expenses and business activity statements offer for fake
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Speaker 2: companies claiming fake GSD refunds. Now, this guy, Christopher andrejungs
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Speaker 2: a gambler. He took two point four million of our money.
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Speaker 2: This woman Lily McKenzie got one hundred and forty seven thousand,
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Speaker 2: this blow Joshua Merrit three hundred and ninety five thousand dollars.
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Speaker 2: And we're told that of the two billions stolen, less
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Speaker 2: than one tenth has been recovered. And this is why
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Speaker 2: you pay your taxes. Now, I wonder how we managed
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Speaker 2: to breed so many people with no shame at all
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Speaker 2: about stealing from the rest of us. But to another
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Speaker 2: example of your money not just being thrown away, but
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Speaker 2: thrown away on something that actually puts children in danger.
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Speaker 2: The West Australian Premier Roger Cook was today the latest
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Speaker 2: premier to say I'm going to give money to my
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Speaker 2: state's stolen generations. I'm going to give every one of
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Speaker 2: them eighty five thousand dollars. He claimed a third of
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Speaker 2: Aboriginal children in the past were stolen from their parents
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Speaker 2: and that past was shameful. So this is the stolen generations.
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Speaker 2: And I say to Premier Cook, really, really, Roger, I'm
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Speaker 2: asking you what stolen generations, Who exactly are you giving
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Speaker 2: this tax payer money? The solen generations actually means children
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Speaker 2: stolen from their parents just because they were Aboriginal, not
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Speaker 2: because they were in danger, but just to destroy the
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Speaker 2: Aboriginal race. Now, I've covered this story for decades and
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Speaker 2: right from the start saw a problem with it. The
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Speaker 2: facts and that phrase stolen generations was invented by Professor
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Speaker 2: Peter Ried more than forty years ago, and he singled
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Speaker 2: out two examples of these stolen generations. So Lowchio O'donahue,
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Speaker 2: who became a top public servant and patron of the
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Speaker 2: Sorry Day Committee, and Charles Perkins, who became the first
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Speaker 2: Aboriginy to head a comonwealth government department. Not a man
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Speaker 2: easy to call the victim. The thing is, neither O'donahute
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Speaker 2: nor Perkins were actually stolen. O'Donohue later told me her
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Speaker 2: white father had cruelly dumped her with missionaries, and Perkins
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Speaker 2: had been on three at W Radio. He wasn't stolen either.
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Speaker 2: His mother had actually asked the missionary Percy Smith, to
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Speaker 2: take an educator, her very talented son. Now, every time
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Speaker 2: I checked the stories of people claiming they were stolen.
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Speaker 2: It's been much the same. Like in the first big
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Speaker 2: federal test case for compensation for the Solen generations up
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Speaker 2: in the Northern Territory, for Peter Gunner and Lorna Kabilo, well,
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Speaker 2: the judge turned them down. Turned out Gunner had actually
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Speaker 2: been sent by his mother to school at Alice Springs.
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Speaker 2: Cabillo had been just eight when she was rescued from
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Speaker 2: a bush camp because her white father had vanished, her
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Speaker 2: mother and grandmother had died, and the aunt who was
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Speaker 2: supposedly looking after her often worked at a station more
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Speaker 2: than sixty kilometers away. Now almost every state has since
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Speaker 2: had courts heer claims for compensation. Not one judge has
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Speaker 2: found children were stolen just for being Aboriginal. If Ettorian
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Speaker 2: aboriginal ed government in quiry even concluded there had never
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Speaker 2: been a government policy there just to remove Aboriginal children.
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Speaker 2: Let's get back to West Australia, where Roger Cook claims
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Speaker 2: one third of Aboriginal children was stolen and mus get
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Speaker 2: eighty five thousand dollars. There was a court case there too,
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Speaker 2: a couple who claimed their children were stolen in the
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Speaker 2: nineteen fifties and sixties. I think seventies two, and not
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Speaker 2: because they were in danger or need, but to assimilate
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Speaker 2: them into white society. This case was in twenty thirteen
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Speaker 2: and the judge Justice Jeanine Pritchard ruled that no, the
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Speaker 2: references to assimilation in the evidence are not sufficient to
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Speaker 2: support a finding on the balance of probabilities that there
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Speaker 2: was then within the Department of Native Welfare or Child
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Speaker 2: Welfare Department to pursuit of a policy of assimilation of
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Speaker 2: Aboriginal people into white Australian society through the wardship of
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Speaker 2: Aboriginal children. So, in short, no policy to steal Aboriginal children,
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Speaker 2: just to assimilate them. Yet Western Australian's premier today insists
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Speaker 2: a third of Aboriginal children were stolen and he's going
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Speaker 2: to give them money. Doesn't he care for the facts?
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Speaker 2: As it happens, we today remove many more Aboriginal children
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Speaker 2: than we did before in the Stolen Generations stay politicians
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Speaker 2: complain it's too many, ten times the rate of non
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Speaker 2: Aboriginal children taken from the family, but there is a
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Speaker 2: reason for that. Aboriginal children are also at much more
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Speaker 2: risk of abuse or neglect, and that's why the Stolen
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Speaker 2: Generation's story or myth as I call it, is so
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Speaker 2: dangerous because even though we do remove many Aboriginal children
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Speaker 2: for their safety, a number of Aboriginal children are not
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Speaker 2: removed for fear of repeating this stolen generations, and a
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Speaker 2: number have then died have written about them. They include
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Speaker 2: this poor girl, for several years of the care of
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Speaker 2: her aunt, left where she was crying, only to die
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Speaker 2: in the dirt of the yard of her home, crawling
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Speaker 2: with ants, with a leita and a half of puss
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Speaker 2: in her leg. She was just twelve years old. So
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Speaker 2: Roger Cook flinging more money at this stolen generations that
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Speaker 2: no judge can find. Mayfiel is doing the noble thing
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Speaker 2: in this reconciliation week, and I'm sure he means the best,
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Speaker 2: but he is feeding a deadly myth, deadly for Aboriginal children,
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Speaker 2: but also terrible for all children because it's teaching them
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Speaker 2: a contempt for the supposedly genocideal Australia that our country
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Speaker 2: does not deserve and cannot afford. Now a quick update
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Speaker 2: on today's final results from for some Senate races. Post
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Speaker 2: the election in Tasmania, drama Queen Jackie Lamby has been
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Speaker 2: re elected. She won the last Senate seat. There. In
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Speaker 2: South Australia, Labour won the third Senate seat, their third
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Speaker 2: Senate seat, making this twenty one year old young labor
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Speaker 2: activist Charlotte Walker as Senator for the next six years,
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Speaker 2: deciding on this nation's finances and defense.
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Speaker 1: I know what it's like to have to balance work,
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Speaker 1: study and paying rent.
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Speaker 3: That's why it's important we have more young voices in Parliament,
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Speaker 3: people who actually understand what it's like.
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Speaker 2: Twenty one years old and a senator in the Parliament
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Speaker 2: of Australia. Well, let's look then at one tricky issue
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Speaker 2: that young Charlotte will have to help tackle for us
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Speaker 2: in Parliament. The Alben Eazy Government's global warming schemes. They're
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Speaker 2: falling apart and I think the government's now getting desperate.
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Speaker 2: The Queensland government this week scrapped a big wind farm
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Speaker 2: meant for the Moonlight Range after finding locals who were
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Speaker 2: overwhelmingly against turning their lovely mountains into a wind factory
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Speaker 2: that would look like this. Queensland's Renewable Injury councils now
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Speaker 2: freaking that one hundred and ten more wind and sol
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Speaker 2: apro just could also be acts. But the Planning Minister
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Speaker 2: wasn't backing down today.
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Speaker 4: These things have been popping up all throughout regional and
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Speaker 4: rural Queensland without any community consultation, and we made an
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Speaker 4: election commitment we would change laws, make the laws impact accessible.
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Speaker 2: So with power supplies getting stretched, the wind and solar
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Speaker 2: roll out in huge trouble in the country needing export dollars,
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Speaker 2: the government is under huge pressure to finally approve the
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Speaker 2: extension of the Northwest Cape gas project of Western Australia,
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Speaker 2: despite claims that its emissions could destroy local rock art
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Speaker 2: and even upset wales as they sang to us, yes
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Speaker 2: that's right, this activist is going to court again to
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Speaker 2: stop this project.
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Speaker 1: What is going on here? What is happening?
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Speaker 5: We've got animals plants that are telling us there's a
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Speaker 5: major issue going Animals are telling us there's a problem.
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Speaker 6: This is huge.
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Speaker 7: The whales are telling.
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Speaker 5: Us, they're showing us how much they love us people.
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Speaker 1: Why do you think they put the big glove heart
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Speaker 1: that we love you.
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Speaker 2: But the Prime Minister's had enough of the New Age
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Speaker 2: dreamers and especially green extremers, who are dead against any
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Speaker 2: fossil fuel, even if gas is now critical to backing
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Speaker 2: up fickle wind and solar power.
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Speaker 8: It's net zero, not zero. You can't have renewables unless
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Speaker 8: you have firm in capacity. Simple as that. You don't
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Speaker 8: change a transition through warm thoughts.
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Speaker 2: Joining me is National Senator Matt Canavan, the former Resources Minister.
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Speaker 2: Matt Great to see you again. This gas project off
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Speaker 2: Western Australia. How critical is it that are go ahead?
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Speaker 1: Well, it should have gone ahead a long time ago,
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Speaker 1: should have been already approved last year when the West
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Speaker 1: Australian government did andrew. But the Labor Party has been
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Speaker 1: dragging its heels here on this issue. Obviously they're concerned
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Speaker 1: about angering they're green activists that help them get elected,
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Speaker 1: so they kick this can down the road to beyond
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Speaker 1: at the election. It is very important for economic development.
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Speaker 1: It's a thirty billion dollar project and speaking to businesses
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Speaker 1: a lot in the last couple of months, they're very
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Speaker 1: concerned where the Australian economy is right now and so
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Speaker 1: we need these kind of investments. So as I say,
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Speaker 1: it's already been approved by the WA government, it should
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Speaker 1: go ahead. There's another reason why this project is very
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Speaker 1: important for our country that not a lot of people
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Speaker 1: talk about or focus on. We no longer produce fertilizer
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Speaker 1: or the most important fertilizer in this country anymore, urea. Therefore,
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Speaker 1: we struggle to produce food in this country without imports
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Speaker 1: of urea from the Middle Eastern China. Now, our last
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Speaker 1: urea plants shut in Brisbane in late twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 1: It did so because we no longer have affordable gas
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Speaker 1: anymore and it just couldn't afford to keep operating under
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Speaker 1: the net zero anti fossil fuel agenda of this government project.
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Speaker 1: This gas project in West Australia would deliver gas to
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Speaker 1: a new urea plant at Karratha, and I think it's
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Speaker 1: very important that our country can feed itself. So it's
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Speaker 1: just another reason to get this project going as soon
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Speaker 1: as possible.
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Speaker 2: Now, the scrapping of the Moonlight Range wind farm in
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Speaker 2: your state a question mark now on dozens more in Queensland.
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Speaker 2: What does this mean for the Abunazi government's plan for
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Speaker 2: to you know, to get us eighty two percent renewable
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Speaker 2: energy just five years from now.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, we weren't going to hit that target anyway.
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Speaker 1: That eighty two percent renewability target is completely bunker. It
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Speaker 1: was actually one of the outputs of the modeling that
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Speaker 1: the Labor Party used to tell us all that they
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Speaker 1: would reduce your power bills by two and seventy five
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Speaker 1: dollars a year. You remember that one the modeling showed
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Speaker 1: that they would actually they thought an eighty two percent
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Speaker 1: renewable target would reduce your power bills. Of course they've
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Speaker 1: ditched the twildred and seventy five dollars promise. The Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister has walked away from that modeling and washed his
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Speaker 1: hands like conscious pilot from any responsibility for it. Yet
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Speaker 1: they've maintained this ridiculous eighty two percent target by twenty
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Speaker 1: thirty that we're not on track to meet that anyway.
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Speaker 1: But I do support this decision of the Queensland Government
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Speaker 1: to cancel the approval for the Moonlight Rage project. I
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Speaker 1: live very close to it, and I want to pay
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Speaker 1: credit to Glenn Kelly, the local member of Parliament up there,
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Speaker 1: who has been doing what he should do at advocating
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Speaker 1: for his local community against these monstrosities. The Queensland Government
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Speaker 1: did a consultation on this in the last few months,
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Speaker 1: so the former governor did no local consultation, but the
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Speaker 1: queens That Government actually did go and talk to the
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Speaker 1: local people of Rockhampton and surrounds. And eighty eight percent
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Speaker 1: Andrew eighty eight percent of the submissions from local people
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Speaker 1: in central Queensland opposed this project. And I do believe
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Speaker 1: ultimately that local people should get a say in what
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Speaker 1: happens in their area. I not on your show. You've
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Speaker 1: for highlighted some of the concerns now of the conservation
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Speaker 1: groups that a project like this won't go ahead. Well,
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Speaker 1: can I suggest to them, if they're so passionate about
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Speaker 1: renewable energy, why can't they have the wind turbines hosted
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Speaker 1: in their backyards. Let's have them off Manly Harbor. There's
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Speaker 1: no reason why it shouldn't be there. Let's have them
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Speaker 1: on Mount coother on the mountains west of Brisbane. Why
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Speaker 1: can't we have them there? Why do all these projects
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Speaker 1: have to go far away from the often where the
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Speaker 1: voters are who want them. The people that say they
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Speaker 1: want renewable energy now inner city seats, they apparently don't
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Speaker 1: want them in their backyard. Maybe there's a problem with
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Speaker 1: these projects, and we should listen to local people who
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Speaker 1: have concerns about two hundred and eighty meter wind turbines
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Speaker 1: towering over their houses.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure Zoey Stegel is putting a hand up for
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Speaker 2: a lot of these windows in Hersey to ringa voting
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Speaker 2: for her, as she's read hot for renewables, let her
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Speaker 2: have them. We're told Matt that the Liberals and Nationals
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Speaker 2: are very close now to agreeing to the deal they've
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Speaker 2: been negotiating, very promising, could be announced within days. The
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Speaker 2: Coalition is back together again, back to supporting nuclear power,
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Speaker 2: which is a national's demand. You push for it to
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Speaker 2: be an essential demand for the coalition. Your leader, David
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Speaker 2: Little Proud has got the Liberals to agree to this.
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Speaker 2: So why are some of your party and I'm guessing
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Speaker 2: Marnabe Joyce is one of them wanting Little Proud now gone?
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Speaker 2: Has he really done such a bad job for you?
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Speaker 1: Well, I think he's done a good job. I've said that.
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Speaker 1: I think David has done a good job. No one
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Speaker 1: has contacted me saying there should be a change in
15:44
Speaker 1: leader I know. To all the media speculation, I think
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Speaker 1: that might be coming from people who just want to
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Speaker 1: cause chaos in our ranks. Good luck, that's the way
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Speaker 1: that we're always work down here. But look, I think
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Speaker 1: David's done a good job. Those are important priorities for
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Speaker 1: my party. I do think though now we still have
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Speaker 1: a massive issue to resolve, we should be having a
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Speaker 1: genuine debate in at least the Nationals Party that I'm
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Speaker 1: a member of, and I know many of my liberal
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Speaker 1: colleagues want the same, a debate on this crazy target
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Speaker 1: of net zero emissions by twenty to fifty. Andrew, you
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Speaker 1: have a situation now where the UK Conservative Party has
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Speaker 1: dropped support for net zero. Obviously Donald Trump was never
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Speaker 1: signed up and he's now dropped or taken the US
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Speaker 1: out of the Paris Agreement, the Canadian Conservative leader campaign
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Speaker 1: against carbon taxes, and just on the weekend, the New
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Speaker 1: Zealand center right Nationals Party government have dropped support for
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Speaker 1: net zero. So we are very much the odd man
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Speaker 1: out here now of center right parties maintaining support for
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Speaker 1: this radical left wing utopian fantasy of net zero missions
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Speaker 1: by twenty to fifty. It is costing us our industries
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Speaker 1: like the area industry I mentioned earlier. It is costing
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Speaker 1: Australians and arm and a leg through their power bills.
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Speaker 1: I think it's about time we fight back against this
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Speaker 1: type of mad It's the only way we're going to
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Speaker 1: have a fighting chance at the next election is if
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Speaker 1: we actually take up the fight against a labor green
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Speaker 1: government taking Australia down a poverty path.
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Speaker 2: Look, I heard a Liberal senator on four corners say,
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Speaker 2: these are culturals. Know it's economics, economics and technology. It's
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Speaker 2: not a cultural issue.
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Speaker 1: Hello, come on, making making food is important. It's not cultural,
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Speaker 1: it's economic too.
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Speaker 2: Honestee, what can you do, Matt? What can you do?
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Speaker 2: But look, you've been plugging away for years to really
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Speaker 2: appreciate that you're there for that. Thank you so much
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Speaker 2: to the shocking car attack overnight in Liverpool where you
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Speaker 2: had fans out cheering the Liverpool soccer club whose players
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Speaker 2: are being driven around in an open top bus to
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Speaker 2: celebrate winning the English Premier League title, and a warning
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Speaker 2: to viewers the footage I'm about to show may be distressing,
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Speaker 2: in fact will be. A short while later, a man
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Speaker 2: drove a car into that crowd and put twenty seven
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Speaker 2: people in hospital injured a lot more too, with serious injuries.
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Speaker 2: People police quickly announced that this was not terrorism. They said,
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Speaker 2: oh look no, the driver's wait and fifty three years old.
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Speaker 7: What I can tell you is that We believe this
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Speaker 7: to be an isolated incident and we are not currently
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Speaker 7: looking for anyone else in relation to it. The incident
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Speaker 7: is not being treated as terrorism, and.
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Speaker 2: Here there is maybe why it wasn't terrorism. This footage
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Speaker 2: I'm about to show you seems to be of how
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Speaker 2: it all started and after then all hill Broke lows
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Speaker 2: did the driver a panic or overreact to an attack
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Speaker 2: on him? Joining me from London is Patrick Christie's host
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Speaker 2: of gb News and a regular commentator here in the
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Speaker 2: Bolt Report. Patrick, thank you so much for coming on
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Speaker 2: earlier this week to talk about what's happened here. What
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Speaker 2: did happen?
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Speaker 3: Well, at the moment, there are lots of unknowns. Initially,
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Speaker 3: you obviously fear the worst. You think this is another
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Speaker 3: car driven by some kind of mad Islamis like we've
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Speaker 3: seen at Christmas markets right across continental Europe and goodness
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Speaker 3: knows where else as well. It appears that's not the case.
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Speaker 3: Police were, as you said, astonishingly quick to say that
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Speaker 3: this is a fifty three year old white British man
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Speaker 3: who they believe to be from the Liverpool area. Now,
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Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you, Initially there was a degree
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Speaker 3: of skepticism about that. Why well, because after the Southport
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Speaker 3: massacre we were told that the perpetrator was a Welsh
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Speaker 3: choir boy. What they neglected to tell you, of course,
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Speaker 3: was that he happened to be the son of Rwandan
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Speaker 3: asylum seekers, and clearly he did not necessarily fit the
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Speaker 3: bill of your typical Welsh choir boy. The fuddage that
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Speaker 3: we've seen so far of this attacker, this man, I
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Speaker 3: suppose you you should call him, really, because the motive
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Speaker 3: is as yet unknown, would appear to indicate that he
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Speaker 3: is indeed white. Huge question marks now over exactly how
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Speaker 3: on earth he was able to get in that car
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Speaker 3: and how he was able to drive it through a
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Speaker 3: crowd of people that were roughly speaking, roughly speaking, about
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Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty thousand people in Liverpool City center
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Speaker 3: last night or yesterday to celebrate Liverpool's twentieth League title.
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Speaker 3: There were road closures in place. One eyewitness told The Times,
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Speaker 3: the newspaper that we have over here, that they believed
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Speaker 3: they saw the man coming out of a Hooters restaurant
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Speaker 3: visibly drunk before getting in his car and then doing
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Speaker 3: what he did. That is unconfirmed and the police have
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Speaker 3: been very very slow to tell us exactly what's gone on.
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Speaker 3: If he was, if it was one of the worst
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Speaker 3: cases of drink driving that you've ever seen, well, they
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Speaker 3: must have breathalyzed him at the time. They must have
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Speaker 3: done blood sass at the time, and that would stop
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Speaker 3: a lot of speculation online, wouldn't it. So you would
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Speaker 3: hope that they would come out and say that, but
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Speaker 3: they're not telling us. In fact, the only real detail
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Speaker 3: that they've been willing to give us is that this
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Speaker 3: is a white British fifty three year old man.
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Speaker 2: Well, on that point, and referencing the Southport killer that
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Speaker 2: you did, I want to go get a bit deeper
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Speaker 2: in that. One curious thing is we've both both noted
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Speaker 2: now the police did instantly announce the driver was white
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Speaker 2: and British. Interesting they had, you know, rushed out. It
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Speaker 2: was so important that we knew he was white. I
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Speaker 2: haven't seen police react that fast in past attacks by
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Speaker 2: Muslims by announcing the color of the suspect. And as
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Speaker 2: you say, when police arrested that teenager who lastly stabbed
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Speaker 2: three children to death at Southport, they didn't identify him
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Speaker 2: by color at all. In fact, the police statement just
22:00
Speaker 2: called them a seventeen year old male. Why do you
22:03
Speaker 2: think there was this exception for the white guy.
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Speaker 3: Because the most important thing for police in Britain is
22:10
Speaker 3: not stoking racial tensions. We saw it with the grooming
22:13
Speaker 3: gangs or the Pakistani rape gangs as they've been called, now,
22:16
Speaker 3: where we know from various different inquests that police were
22:20
Speaker 3: concerned about stoking racial tensions so didn't want to investigate
22:23
Speaker 3: or bring publicity to shine a light on that. Those
22:26
Speaker 3: particular incidents we know that you know, traditionally, the worst
22:30
Speaker 3: thing that anyone could ever seem to do is highlight
22:33
Speaker 3: the fact that an immigrant or an asylum seeker, a
22:35
Speaker 3: refugee has committed a horrendous crime. We also had an
22:38
Speaker 3: incident where an asylum seeker who traveled through thirteen different
22:41
Speaker 3: countries before getting to Britain and killing an elderly gentleman
22:44
Speaker 3: who was walking his dog in the morning outside a
22:46
Speaker 3: migrant hotel. They put what's called a D notice on that,
22:49
Speaker 3: and that means that you can't report it because the
22:51
Speaker 3: grounds of national security. However, in this incident, straight away
22:57
Speaker 3: fifty three year old white British man, Now that's fine
23:00
Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned, good to have as much
23:02
Speaker 3: detail out there as possible, but that now, this needs
23:05
Speaker 3: to set a precedent. So if you can do it
23:08
Speaker 3: in this case, then do it every time going forward,
23:11
Speaker 3: and don't tell us that it's going to contempt a
23:13
Speaker 3: trial by releasing things like the age, the ethnicity and
23:16
Speaker 3: the nationality of someone. The public have a right to know.
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Speaker 3: So they've set a precedent. Now let's see it.
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Speaker 2: By the way.
23:22
Speaker 3: I hope nothing awful happens going forward, obviously, but if
23:25
Speaker 3: it does, then let's see that they adhere to the
23:28
Speaker 3: same rules that they've applied here.
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Speaker 2: I will bit this building I'm sitting in that had
23:35
Speaker 2: that driver been black or some other color than white,
23:39
Speaker 2: that would not have been headlined by the police within
23:43
Speaker 2: an hour or two. I bet you. I absolutely bit you.
23:46
Speaker 2: Patrick Christie's thank you so much for your time. After
23:50
Speaker 2: the break, Francis president is bettered by his wife on
23:54
Speaker 2: TV his former schoolteacher even but it's no big deal.
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Speaker 2: It's not. I'll talk to someone who's met this couple.
24:07
Speaker 2: We've just got the strangest insight into the already bizarre
24:11
Speaker 2: relationship between French President Emmanuel Macron and his wife Bridget
24:16
Speaker 2: twenty four years his senior. They just landed in Vietnam
24:21
Speaker 2: Sunday night for a state visit. Crowd was waiting for
24:25
Speaker 2: Macron and his wife to come out, when suddenly there
24:28
Speaker 2: was this bridget apparently hitting a husband in the face. Mccron,
24:33
Speaker 2: realizing people must have seen it, looks a bit shocked,
24:38
Speaker 2: no doubt, told her they were out there. Then they
24:40
Speaker 2: both emerged, she later, still refusing to take his arm,
24:44
Speaker 2: and then they didn't look too happy at the bottom
24:45
Speaker 2: of the stairs either. In fact, mccron had a fist
24:49
Speaker 2: clenched tents and even weird it was that his office
24:53
Speaker 2: first denied that what you saw was actually real. It claimed, boh,
24:56
Speaker 2: this is an artificial intelligence fake make mccron look bad,
25:02
Speaker 2: and then the staffer said, oh, well, actually they're just
25:04
Speaker 2: falling around after a long flight, and then Macron kind
25:07
Speaker 2: of gave it away.
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Speaker 6: Monipouza, we were squabbling and I was joking with my wife,
25:16
Speaker 6: and I'm surprised by it, and it becomes some sort
25:19
Speaker 6: of geoplanetary catastrophe. Everybody needs to calm down and should
25:26
Speaker 6: really focus on actual news.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know that squabbling was what you call hitting
25:31
Speaker 2: someone in the face. But anyway, attention on his marriage
25:34
Speaker 2: is actually the last thing Macron needs because the way
25:38
Speaker 2: this couple met could have had his wife in jail
25:40
Speaker 2: had it happened here. Mccron was just fifteen years old
25:44
Speaker 2: when he appeared in the school play that was directed
25:46
Speaker 2: by Bridget Macron, who happened to be his drama teacher.
25:49
Speaker 2: Thirty five years old, married and with three children, they
25:53
Speaker 2: were spotted kissing and Macron was sent away to Paris
25:56
Speaker 2: to another school. But years later they did marry. When
25:59
Speaker 2: he was that out, it seems Bridget is still a
26:03
Speaker 2: teacher who believes in corporal punishment. Joining me to discuss
26:06
Speaker 2: foreign affairs is Sean Spicer, the first White House spokesman
26:10
Speaker 2: of President Donald Trump. Sean Spice is great to see you. Look,
26:16
Speaker 2: I'm going to get onto American politics, of course, but
26:19
Speaker 2: I just can't resist asking you because you were there
26:23
Speaker 2: at the White House when mccron and his wife paid
26:26
Speaker 2: Trump a visit years ago. You saw the couple again
26:29
Speaker 2: in a visit to Brussels, I believe about eight years ago.
26:33
Speaker 2: Looking now at Bridget mccron pushing or hitting or punching
26:38
Speaker 2: her husband in the face, what do you make of it?
26:42
Speaker 9: Well, I'm glad I was nice to her. We laugh, Andrew,
26:49
Speaker 9: and I think that that's kind of been the general reaction.
26:53
Speaker 9: But there is a real seriousness to this. For all
26:56
Speaker 9: of the talk that we've had over the past few
26:59
Speaker 9: years about domestic violence, and it clearly it goes both ways.
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Speaker 9: And I know that, you know, there's a lot of
27:07
Speaker 9: jokes to be had at mccrone's expense, but there is
27:12
Speaker 9: a serious aspect of this that I don't think should
27:15
Speaker 9: be overlooked. And I know even when their initial response,
27:18
Speaker 9: you know, they tried to initially deny this, but the
27:21
Speaker 9: tape was so clear as to what was going on,
27:25
Speaker 9: you know, So I think we've got to figure out
27:28
Speaker 9: how to balance this. But yeah, eight years ago, almost
27:30
Speaker 9: to the weekend, we were in Brussels for a NATO
27:34
Speaker 9: summit and they invited President Trump over to I guess
27:39
Speaker 9: it's their ambassador. I was looking at the picture the
27:41
Speaker 9: other day. I forgot exactly where, but I think it
27:43
Speaker 9: was the French ambassador's residence there, and so we went
27:47
Speaker 9: and they were very kind and welcoming, and he's always
27:49
Speaker 9: had a very warm relationship with President Trump. But he
27:53
Speaker 9: might want to come stay at Blairhouse here in the
27:55
Speaker 9: United States to get out of town if things continue
27:59
Speaker 9: the way that they might be.
28:02
Speaker 2: Well, I have to say, you're right to rebukes for laughing,
28:05
Speaker 2: because I can't think of any other marriage of friend
28:10
Speaker 2: zone know that would endure either side punching the other
28:14
Speaker 2: in the or hitting each other in the face like that.
28:16
Speaker 2: And it's just so extraordinary, and for this to be
28:20
Speaker 2: the president and his wife really makes people look at
28:23
Speaker 2: the really quite unique, bizarre. Some might call it relationship
28:30
Speaker 2: from way back when, and wonder who's the boss.
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Speaker 9: She was his teacher. This wasn't a tap on the
28:36
Speaker 9: shoulder or a you know, a light touch. This was
28:42
Speaker 9: truly a smack. And I will give him acron credit
28:46
Speaker 9: for how he responded to it, because I think the
28:50
Speaker 9: other thing that I thought to myself is that these
28:51
Speaker 9: folks have been in the public eye for quite some time.
28:54
Speaker 9: They're at the top of that stare off of the airplane,
29:00
Speaker 9: and she has to know that the cameras are on them.
29:03
Speaker 9: For her to actually know that this moment was going
29:06
Speaker 9: to be on film really kind of concerns me.
29:11
Speaker 2: Well, even if they thought it wasn't going to be
29:14
Speaker 2: on film, that she wasn't standing in the doorway herself.
29:17
Speaker 2: There were people in the plane, and for her to
29:20
Speaker 2: treat him like that. In part, it's just I've never
29:23
Speaker 2: seen anything like it.
29:24
Speaker 9: I think the word you're looking for it is emasculating.
29:30
Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty good word, Sean. Look, you
29:34
Speaker 2: and I have agreed. Donald Trump has done some great
29:38
Speaker 2: things in a hurry as president, and a lot of them.
29:43
Speaker 2: But one of the things I think is done very
29:45
Speaker 2: very badly is suck up to Russian president of letting
29:48
Speaker 2: me Putin and blame Ukraine for getting invaded by Russia
29:51
Speaker 2: and for not giving in to Russia. But two days
29:54
Speaker 2: ago President Trump finally corrected with Putin for bombing Ukraine
29:59
Speaker 2: with record numbers of drones. He wrote on truth Social
30:03
Speaker 2: he has gone absolutely crazy. Is needlessly killing a lot
30:06
Speaker 2: of people. Missiles and drones are being shot into cities
30:08
Speaker 2: in Ukraine for no reason whatsoever. I've always said that
30:11
Speaker 2: he wants all of Ukraine, but if he does, it
30:13
Speaker 2: will lead to the downfall of Russia. What do you
30:16
Speaker 2: think is going on in his mind? And will he
30:19
Speaker 2: now really make Russia pay?
30:22
Speaker 9: I think he's upset, and rightfully so, because Putin. Look,
30:27
Speaker 9: the deal that was on the table is frankly the
30:29
Speaker 9: best and most generous deal that Putin could and should
30:33
Speaker 9: ever get. Right, there's no question he invaded Ukraine unprovoked.
30:38
Speaker 9: He is responsible for killing I would assume it's well
30:41
Speaker 9: into the thousands now of innocent Ukrainians. And I think
30:46
Speaker 9: the idea that you could walk away with some of
30:48
Speaker 9: this land that you've annexed under your control is probably
30:52
Speaker 9: the best deal ever you're going to get. So the
30:55
Speaker 9: idea that we're willing to make these concessions about Ukraine's
30:59
Speaker 9: NATO member ship, the status of some of the NNIX land,
31:03
Speaker 9: I get why Trump's furious. He wanted to end this.
31:06
Speaker 2: Trump is very.
31:07
Speaker 9: Proud, and rightfully so, of the fact that for forty
31:11
Speaker 9: years during his first term, there was no major worldwide incursion,
31:17
Speaker 9: not just Russia who had annexed land or gone to war.
31:20
Speaker 9: Basically with every previous modern president of both parties, the
31:25
Speaker 9: world was relatively stable. Then Joe Biden comes in, the
31:28
Speaker 9: Great Statesman, We have a failed withdrawal out of out
31:31
Speaker 9: of Afghanistan, Gaza and Israel is a mess, Ukraine and
31:36
Speaker 9: Russia is a mess. China's being rather provocative and so
31:40
Speaker 9: the idea, and then you've got a ran, of course,
31:42
Speaker 9: So the idea that Trump is saying, Look, I'm going
31:44
Speaker 9: to go in and I want to make peace. I
31:46
Speaker 9: want to end the killing and the destruction. And he
31:49
Speaker 9: gave what I would say is a very long leash.
31:51
Speaker 9: And I know you and I disagree on this a little,
31:53
Speaker 9: but I think that Trump's view was I want peace
31:56
Speaker 9: to break out, I want the killing to end. And
31:59
Speaker 9: I've witness his first hand how he is personally affected
32:03
Speaker 9: by the innocence killing of individuals, whether it's Americans or
32:08
Speaker 9: people in Syria or around the world.
32:10
Speaker 6: So I know that this is.
32:11
Speaker 9: A personal issue for him, and I think that he
32:15
Speaker 9: views this as hey, Vladimir, I gave you a long leash.
32:19
Speaker 9: I gave you the most favorable terms you could ever get,
32:22
Speaker 9: and you've taken advantage of me. I think this is
32:25
Speaker 9: very personal for him, and I hope and expect that
32:27
Speaker 9: in the next week or so he really makes that
32:30
Speaker 9: known beyond just social media posts.
32:34
Speaker 2: Yes, so do I look at my difference He was
32:37
Speaker 2: that I always knew that Putin couldn't be trusted, and
32:40
Speaker 2: he was an aggressive has created a number of waves already. Well,
32:46
Speaker 2: let's see it needs to be backed up with action,
32:48
Speaker 2: as you suggest, if that happens, and back on Team Trump.
32:53
Speaker 2: But until then, oh my goodness, this is such a
32:57
Speaker 2: dramatic point in time of history. Sean Spice to thank
33:01
Speaker 2: you so much for your time you met Andrew. Take care.
33:06
Speaker 2: After the break revealed a government document we've got admits
33:11
Speaker 2: our housing crisis is being made worse by the government's
33:16
Speaker 2: reckless immigration intake. I'll tell you about that after this.
33:23
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but this housing crisis, it's
33:26
Speaker 2: so bad that well, my kids feel just about locked
33:29
Speaker 2: out of the housing market. I don't know if they'll
33:31
Speaker 2: thank me for saying that. I'm sure going to have
33:35
Speaker 2: to help them out of be just looking at the
33:37
Speaker 2: news today, homes have never been so hard to buy
33:40
Speaker 2: in Sydney. You now need thirteen times the average wage
33:45
Speaker 2: to buy a house, thirteen times fifty years ago you
33:49
Speaker 2: needed just over four times the average income. I mean,
33:54
Speaker 2: while on Earth, this is insane. Will you take this
33:57
Speaker 2: measure of how hard it's become. It now takes half
34:00
Speaker 2: of a median income to pay the mortgage of a
34:04
Speaker 2: medium priced home. At least that was the end of
34:07
Speaker 2: last year. I mean that's a scandal. And here's the thing.
34:11
Speaker 2: You see this Albanizy government has just put out a
34:15
Speaker 2: report that admits the government's insane immigration intake a million
34:19
Speaker 2: people in two years, hundreds of thousands a year is
34:23
Speaker 2: still coming. Is making this worse? Does it say it
34:28
Speaker 2: as directly as I just did to you. But it's
34:32
Speaker 2: in there. You can see it from a graphic. Now, No,
34:34
Speaker 2: of course this argument is obvious. Of course, more people
34:38
Speaker 2: you bring in, the harder it is to find houses
34:40
Speaker 2: for everyone. But the governor has never admitted it. So
34:43
Speaker 2: oh no, it's a supply issue. It's a supply issue,
34:46
Speaker 2: not a demand issue. But ever the hell that means.
34:48
Speaker 2: But anyway, now, the government's National Housing Supply and Affordability
34:53
Speaker 2: Council has put out this report, the state of the
34:58
Speaker 2: housing system is it annual and it spills the beans
35:02
Speaker 2: in this graphic of future demand for houses, showing that
35:05
Speaker 2: if immigration was fifteen percent lower than is predicted, and
35:10
Speaker 2: that is the bottom line, fifteen percent lower than the
35:13
Speaker 2: government wants, then we will have an extra forty thousand
35:19
Speaker 2: or so homes over the next four years available to Australians.
35:22
Speaker 2: Have forty thousand more homes that's going to help, doesn't it.
35:27
Speaker 2: Joining me is the man who spotted this theatail passed
35:29
Speaker 2: it on to me is Leith A Nonsolin, co founder
35:31
Speaker 2: of macroa business and a former Federal Treasury official. Leith,
35:35
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time and thanks for
35:37
Speaker 2: passing on. That is extraordinary that that revelation in that
35:41
Speaker 2: one graphic and the Government's never come out and said, oh,
35:44
Speaker 2: yes there is a link between immigration and the housing
35:47
Speaker 2: crisis in your mind, what does this graphic prove? Yeah, Andrew,
35:52
Speaker 2: this is absolutely scandalous.
35:54
Speaker 10: So Australia's cumulative housing shortage is already estimated by AMP
35:59
Speaker 10: chief Economists and older to be about around two hundred
36:02
Speaker 10: thousand to three hundred thousand homes. Now, the government's own
36:05
Speaker 10: Housing and affordability you know body, the National Housing Supply
36:08
Speaker 10: and Affordability Council, has warned the Australia's housing shortage and
36:12
Speaker 10: rental crisis are going to continue to worsen over the
36:14
Speaker 10: next five years as immigration demand continue to succeed housing supply.
36:18
Speaker 10: And what their forecast is astraight, is that Labour's going
36:21
Speaker 10: to miss its housing target. It's one point two million
36:23
Speaker 10: homes over five years by about two hundred and sixty
36:26
Speaker 10: two thousand dwellings, so it's about twenty two percent. And
36:29
Speaker 10: the forecast that new housing supply is going to remain
36:32
Speaker 10: below population demand ie immigration for the entire five year
36:36
Speaker 10: period and we're going to be seventy nine thousand short
36:39
Speaker 10: over the next five years. That's seventy nine thousand on
36:42
Speaker 10: top of the already under supply of about two hundred
36:44
Speaker 10: thousand plus. So as a result, they warned that we're
36:47
Speaker 10: going to have more homelessness, more over crowding, etc. And
36:50
Speaker 10: as you point out the top Andrew, if we simply
36:52
Speaker 10: cut population growth by fifteen percent, this is according to
36:55
Speaker 10: their own estimates, instead of having seventy nine thousand shortage
36:59
Speaker 10: of homes, we actually have a surplus over the next
37:01
Speaker 10: five years of forty thousand. And what this tells you
37:04
Speaker 10: in black and white is that the primary solution to
37:07
Speaker 10: Australia's housing crisis is to cut immigration and that the
37:10
Speaker 10: housing situation will improve in Australia if we cut immigration.
37:14
Speaker 2: It's as simple as that. But the government doesn't even
37:19
Speaker 2: go there. And I'll ask you why. In a second.
37:22
Speaker 2: It says in saying send in the election, Oh no, No, No,
37:26
Speaker 2: we got plans to fix all this to help first
37:30
Speaker 2: home bars by their home. They're going to allow them
37:34
Speaker 2: to have their loans, they're going to guarantee their loans.
37:36
Speaker 2: The government is now going to guarantee their loans so
37:40
Speaker 2: that they can buy a home with just a five
37:43
Speaker 2: percent deposit. Five percent deposit. So is that going to help? No,
37:48
Speaker 2: it's not labour.
37:49
Speaker 10: Five percent deposits steam for first home buyers is simply
37:51
Speaker 10: going to increase buying capacity. It's going to suck more
37:55
Speaker 10: you know, sub potentially subprime borrows into the housing market,
37:58
Speaker 10: and it's going to lift overall them and prices. So
38:01
Speaker 10: what we're going to end up after this, you know,
38:03
Speaker 10: say five years Andrew is going to end up with
38:05
Speaker 10: more expensive housing than ever and larger mortgages because the
38:09
Speaker 10: people who've bought those homes are going to have smaller
38:11
Speaker 10: deposits to begin with. So we just can end up
38:13
Speaker 10: with higher prices and more household debt without solving the
38:16
Speaker 10: underlying problem is that in that we're bringing in way
38:18
Speaker 10: too way more people than we can ever supply homes for.
38:23
Speaker 2: Because that is the basic issue. Isn't it too many
38:26
Speaker 2: people chasing too few homes? We're not building them fast enough.
38:31
Speaker 2: And you know, whether you throw money to help people
38:33
Speaker 2: buy more, there's only that many homes and there's still
38:36
Speaker 2: all these people, and that is the issue. Now, why
38:39
Speaker 2: doesn't it cut immigration?
38:42
Speaker 10: Well, that's definitely a question for the federal government. They
38:46
Speaker 10: maintain high immigration for two main reasons. It's great for
38:49
Speaker 10: the federal budget because if you bring a whole bunch
38:51
Speaker 10: of people, they raise more income taxes and corporations taxes.
38:55
Speaker 10: But the cost of that population growth is deferred onto
38:57
Speaker 10: the broader population on the state governments, etc. Which is
39:00
Speaker 10: why states like Victoria are drowning in debt. They also
39:03
Speaker 10: run a hig immigration policy because big business wants it,
39:06
Speaker 10: big property wants it, and the universities love it, and
39:09
Speaker 10: migration agents. There's a whole industry around this, Andrew. But unfortunately,
39:13
Speaker 10: you know, for us, the ordinary strains and the regular punters,
39:16
Speaker 10: it makes our.
39:16
Speaker 2: Lives more difficult.
39:17
Speaker 10: We have more traffic ingestion, got poorer quality housing that
39:21
Speaker 10: becomes more expensive. We have crush loaded infrastructure and services
39:25
Speaker 10: left right and center, and ultimately that the economy ends
39:28
Speaker 10: up with lower productivity.
39:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I actually think allowing people to buy their
39:36
Speaker 2: first homes early is actually social good because it teaches
39:40
Speaker 2: you responsibility, makes you feel part of the community. It
39:44
Speaker 2: settles young men down. I just think it's such a
39:47
Speaker 2: social good and look what we are doing to the young.
39:50
Speaker 2: It is just disgusting. It's disgrace. So lith and Nonsenant,
39:53
Speaker 2: thank you so much. And I should tell people to
39:56
Speaker 2: go to your macro business website because if there's one
39:59
Speaker 2: of you cover lots of issues, but there's one in
40:01
Speaker 2: particular you cover exceptionally well, and it is immigration. Urge
40:05
Speaker 2: people who go to macro Business. Leifannsen and thank you
40:08
Speaker 2: for your time. After the break, why did Labor think
40:14
Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to this. Why did Labor
40:16
Speaker 2: think that someone aged just twenty one should be making
40:21
Speaker 2: laws for the country should be a senator. We'll talk
40:23
Speaker 2: about that after this. Let's get straight to the panel.
40:29
Speaker 2: Will Kingston host Afar at Will the podcast from the
40:33
Speaker 2: Spectator of Politics and Culture and scar News commentator Joe Hildebrand,
40:36
Speaker 2: who was such a successful last time we had to
40:39
Speaker 2: have him back this time. God Will, I want to
40:42
Speaker 2: go back to something image at the top of the show.
40:46
Speaker 2: Labour having as its third Senate candidate elected today. Charlotte
40:51
Speaker 2: Walker turned twenty one on election day. She was twenty
40:54
Speaker 2: when she was pre selected. She's going to be a
40:57
Speaker 2: Senator of Australia, voting on things as defense and tax
41:01
Speaker 2: and industry policy and finances them more. At twenty one
41:05
Speaker 2: years old now, she says, perfectly nice person, she's been
41:08
Speaker 2: involved in young labor and no doubt, so go get them.
41:11
Speaker 2: But honestly, twenty one. To be perfectly frank, we are
41:16
Speaker 2: little more than kids with extremely rare exceptions. So is labor.
41:21
Speaker 2: By putting a twenty one year old into Parliament, putting
41:24
Speaker 2: the Treaty, Senate and the governing of this country with disrespect.
41:28
Speaker 5: Yes it is, but this isn't surprising. Progressives have this strange,
41:34
Speaker 5: misguided belief Andrew, that the young are instilled with some
41:38
Speaker 5: sort of sacral, hidden knowledge that you apparently lose after
41:42
Speaker 5: the age of thirty. It's the reason why we had
41:45
Speaker 5: to bow down to Greta Thunberg. You know, a snot
41:49
Speaker 5: nos know nothing, slightly awkward teenager about climate science. They
41:53
Speaker 5: seem to believe that they are uniquely capable of identifying
41:57
Speaker 5: the issues that young people face. And you know what,
42:00
Speaker 5: I've got no doubt that Charlotte would be entirely in
42:02
Speaker 5: touch with the issues that young people face. She will
42:05
Speaker 5: say it's impossible to enter the housing market, as you've
42:08
Speaker 5: just articulated. She would say climate change is the great
42:11
Speaker 5: moral challenge of our time. She will say all of
42:14
Speaker 5: these things, which, to be honest, I think most older
42:17
Speaker 5: politicians and most people would be able to say as well.
42:20
Speaker 5: But this is the thing about politics, Andrew. It's not
42:23
Speaker 5: just about identifying problems. It's about the dirty, grubby business
42:27
Speaker 5: of maneuvering through camera and getting things done in a
42:31
Speaker 5: system which is inherently resistant to change. That's what makes
42:34
Speaker 5: good politicians. And I'm not saying for a second that
42:37
Speaker 5: the older ones are necessarily that much better, but that
42:39
Speaker 5: is the thing I would have very strong doubts she
42:41
Speaker 5: would be able to do effectively. It is the down
42:44
Speaker 5: and dirty business of getting things done. That's the question
42:47
Speaker 5: mark I would.
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Speaker 2: Have, Joe. The thing is, I think the advantage that
42:52
Speaker 2: the old have over the young is we know what
42:54
Speaker 2: it is to be young. They don't know what, so
42:56
Speaker 2: we've really won up on them. What do you make
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Speaker 2: of this?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, look, I certainly know what it was like to
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Speaker 11: be young, and I was mental, I was an absolute idiot,
43:05
Speaker 11: and most of the things that I thought then I
43:07
Speaker 11: think either much less or the opposite of right now.
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Speaker 11: But the good news is a gentleman, that Charlotte will
43:14
Speaker 11: not be able to say or do what she thinks
43:16
Speaker 11: or what she wants to, because of course Labor has
43:19
Speaker 11: a binding caucus and so she will not be able
43:21
Speaker 11: to vote or indeed speak her mind if it deviates
43:25
Speaker 11: from what the Greed caucus position is on any single issue.
43:28
Speaker 11: So that is one of the joys of the the
43:31
Speaker 11: Australian Labor Party. Of course, it worked perfectly well the
43:34
Speaker 11: last time we had a senator in her twenties in
43:37
Speaker 11: the Parliament, the lovely Fatima Payman, who decided to speak
43:42
Speaker 11: her mind on the subject of Palestine. And look where
43:45
Speaker 11: that got her, certainly not in the Labor Party caucus.
43:47
Speaker 11: So I mean, the truth is the Labor never expected
43:50
Speaker 11: to win this seat. These third Senate position is meant
43:52
Speaker 11: to be you know, hail Mary, you know, supposedly unwinnable.
43:56
Speaker 11: This just speaks to the scale of Labour's landslallow.
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Speaker 2: Enough, oh look, but it just strives me nuts. I know.
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Speaker 2: The young really get insulted when you say that. But listen,
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's a single person a will and
44:12
Speaker 2: I know I'm talking to someone in their mid thirties,
44:14
Speaker 2: but you're very intelligent mid thirties. There's a single person
44:19
Speaker 2: who doesn't think they're smarter this year than they were last,
44:21
Speaker 2: and smarter last year than they were ten years ago,
44:24
Speaker 2: and smarter then than they were with a child. You
44:27
Speaker 2: get smarter with age. And I don't know why politicians
44:30
Speaker 2: think at twenty one years old is smart enough to
44:34
Speaker 2: go into Parliament.
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Speaker 5: Well, I think it is a peculiar thing, particularly on
44:39
Speaker 5: the left side of politics, Andrew. But the honest truth
44:43
Speaker 5: is again, you know, it is sexy to be associated
44:46
Speaker 5: with young people. It's cool, it's hip, and we all
44:48
Speaker 5: know that politics is entirely celebrity for ugly people. So
44:54
Speaker 5: I think there's a bit of I want to be
44:55
Speaker 5: with the cool kids in this poor's rolling.
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Speaker 2: It is political grave Joe. Yesterday, the Victorian Labor Governor
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Speaker 2: announced it was going to make it illegal as of
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Speaker 2: tomorrow to buy a machete. And this is, you know,
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Speaker 2: after crime, youth crime hitting record levels and two machetti
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Speaker 2: attacks on Sunday. Quite terrible. But as I said last time,
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Speaker 2: there's any number of other weapons that violent youths can use.
45:23
Speaker 2: And today the government actually admitted that two of the
45:26
Speaker 2: alleged ring leaders of that Masheti attack and a shopping
45:29
Speaker 2: center on Sunday, we're both on bail. Isn't that the
45:32
Speaker 2: streaming issue there, along with immigration, not the weapons they
45:36
Speaker 2: had in the hand at the time.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, certainly, the bail stuffer is just ridiculous. And we've
45:40
Speaker 11: got evidence in New South Wales of you know, kids
45:43
Speaker 11: taunting police and saying, well, you can lock me up,
45:45
Speaker 11: I'll be out by this afternoon, especially with younger offenders,
45:49
Speaker 11: you know, sort of throwing their youth in the face
45:51
Speaker 11: of the cops saying well you can't touch makes I'm
45:53
Speaker 11: under fourteen, all this sort of stuff. Look, by all,
45:56
Speaker 11: Beans banned the machetes. But as if someone is going
45:59
Speaker 11: to say, well, I'm going to go and steal this car,
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Speaker 11: or break into this house, or attack this person from
46:04
Speaker 11: a rival group or a rival gang, or mug this
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Speaker 11: person for their shoes or whatever it is. Oh no,
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Speaker 11: I can't get a machete. Oh well, I guess I'll
46:11
Speaker 11: go home and watch Baywatch. I mean, you know, obviously
46:15
Speaker 11: they're going to find another They're going to find another weapon.
46:18
Speaker 11: I'm showing my age now, aren't I They're going to
46:20
Speaker 11: find another weapons, right, So you have to solve the
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Speaker 11: cause of the problem. You can't just you know, you
46:27
Speaker 11: can't just say, oh, well, you don't have a machete anymore.
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Speaker 2: What you're going to do about it?
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Speaker 5: What's the cause?
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Speaker 2: Joe?
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Speaker 11: I think one thing that happens is that you have
46:35
Speaker 11: people in you have a sort of getization in horror
46:38
Speaker 11: communities where people think that the way to get ahead
46:42
Speaker 11: is to join a gang. That is the thing you
46:44
Speaker 11: do because often there's nothing else to do. It's the
46:47
Speaker 11: thing you do because you don't feel like you've got
46:49
Speaker 11: a sort of stake in broader society. And so if
46:52
Speaker 11: you don't think that, if you don't think society is
46:55
Speaker 11: delivering for you, you're not going to deliver anything society,
46:58
Speaker 11: and often they can. You know, I've seen waves from
47:01
Speaker 11: different sort of migrant groups as they've come in that
47:03
Speaker 11: then tend to disappear within a generation or so. So
47:07
Speaker 11: I'm sure there's an element of that, but it's always
47:10
Speaker 11: the same old stuff, poverty, disadvantage, isolation.
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Speaker 2: Will I was hearing a little bit too much society
47:18
Speaker 2: is to blame. I mean sometimes I had loved little
47:22
Speaker 2: to do in some of the country towns I grew
47:24
Speaker 2: up in. I mean, we thought standing and rolling on
47:26
Speaker 2: an empty forty four gallon drum was the height of
47:30
Speaker 2: something to do. But I didn't go and stab people.
47:34
Speaker 2: I mean, there's something else going on.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Andrew, Joe was so close. There wasn't he Let's
47:39
Speaker 5: call a spade.
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Speaker 2: Him though, Yeah, of course it was.
47:42
Speaker 5: But there's a thing we did. Let's call a machete
47:44
Speaker 5: a machette. This was not happening fifty years ago. Was
47:47
Speaker 5: there still crime?
47:48
Speaker 2: Sure?
47:49
Speaker 5: But when you import barbaric third world cultures, don't be
47:52
Speaker 5: surprised when there is a difficulty in integration, and don't
47:55
Speaker 5: be surprised when you say this sort of crime. We
47:57
Speaker 5: need to acknowledge the fact that this is a direct
47:59
Speaker 5: result of the so called multicultural policy, which we claim
48:02
Speaker 5: to love but has had such devastating impacts for our community.
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Speaker 2: I think that's the people from I don't know, it's
48:12
Speaker 2: just people from collectivist cultures are more likely to form
48:15
Speaker 2: collectives like gags I mean, or people you know, feeling
48:19
Speaker 2: like they're in an alien country for self protection. Yes,
48:23
Speaker 2: form gangs. But you know that has to have some
48:27
Speaker 2: influence on how you frame your immigration policy. But will Kingston.
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Speaker 2: Joe hildebrand I managed to get the last word in
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Speaker 2: myself a well time on the show. That's it from me,
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Speaker 2: Coming up now, Sherry Marks and good night.