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Jim Lee on The Nuances of Geoengineering Part 2 | Jerm Warfare · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: My name is Jim. This is Jim Warfare, the Battle
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  Speaker 1: of Ideas. Jim Lee, thank you for joining me in
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  Speaker 1: the trenches again. It's good to be back. Well we
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  Speaker 1: have or you have unleashed the Kraken. I'm not quite
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  Speaker 1: sure how to respond, but one thing I will tell you, Jim,
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  Speaker 1: is that I'm apparently a grifter. I'm a sellout, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a government I'm a government agent. I'm control opposition. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna lose a baby. So why don't you kill me?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, uh, I mean, well you did.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just clarification for everybody at home. I did see
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  Speaker 2: him at the secret ritual that we had uh last
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  Speaker 2: Saturday night, and in our underground layer, the Illuminati said
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  Speaker 2: that they're gonna buy him a double wide just like me.
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  Speaker 2: So he's gonna have an Illuminati funded double wide just
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  Speaker 2: like me. So it's all true. It's all true. We're
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  Speaker 2: both you know, we work for the shadow government. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what else to say about that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna believe what you want to believe. But these
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  Speaker 2: are working hands, okay. Like if I was pushing papers
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  Speaker 2: and I was a millionaire, I certainly wouldn't be on
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  Speaker 2: here talking about freaking gim trails and geo engineering. I
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  Speaker 2: just would be on a beach in Hawaii playing Ziggy Marley.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, the thing, Uh, it's a very attractive argument.
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  Speaker 1: You have to realize that the world is a big place,
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  Speaker 1: and it's nuanced, and there is a lot of complexity.
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  Speaker 1: And if it's true that I'm not being sprayed from above,
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  Speaker 1: and that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: It is, and at the same time, you are being
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  Speaker 2: sprayed from above. It's just not the way you're you
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  Speaker 2: know that it that it's popular to say people people,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they really they Once you believe a narrative
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  Speaker 2: long enough, it's it's hard to not believe it. But
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  Speaker 2: documented cases like the US Air Force spraying adulta side chemicals.
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  Speaker 2: I was on Dell Big Trees the high Wire. I
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  Speaker 2: did an episode with him, and I brought this up
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  Speaker 2: kind of as a throwaway line, just to kind of
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  Speaker 2: show people an example and then to prove my point.
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  Speaker 2: I made this, you know, this very clickbait title. US
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  Speaker 2: Air Force admits kim Trail's adulta side and side means
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  Speaker 2: to kill adult. They're like, oh, well, that must mean
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  Speaker 2: they're killing people, and the Air Force is doing this
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  Speaker 2: easily became the number one article on my substack climate
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  Speaker 2: Viewer dot News instantaneously. And the sad part is, I
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  Speaker 2: don't believe that very many people actually read it, because
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  Speaker 2: the whole point was when I was on Dell Big Trees,
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  Speaker 2: how Are, I was talking about Youngstown Air Reserve Base,
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  Speaker 2: the station, their aerial spray squadron, which sprays for mosquitoes.
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  Speaker 2: I can went on to do Foyas, you know, bringing
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  Speaker 2: back just absolutely ridiculous amounts of information on these programs.
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  Speaker 2: And I did this to talk about this the pictures
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  Speaker 2: that people constantly share, and I'm like, no, that's not
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  Speaker 2: the Kim Trail. That is a Sea one thirty from
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  Speaker 2: Youngstown Air Reserve Station, from their aerial spraying unit. And
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  Speaker 2: this is herbicides. This is like agent orange. We'll call
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  Speaker 2: this one Agent green. And it's you know, clearly spraying.
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  Speaker 2: There's the spray nozzle. You can see it right there
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  Speaker 2: on the corner. So this is called the modular aerial
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  Speaker 2: spray system in the back of a C one thirty,
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  Speaker 2: and they are spraying chemicals that are toxic to humans,
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  Speaker 2: to bees, to just about everything. Apparently. In the Foyas
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  Speaker 2: it said well, we're gonna avoid, you know, bald eagle nests,
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  Speaker 2: but we're gonna go right over residential neighborhoods. During Katrina,
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  Speaker 2: they were running these planes all day and all night
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  Speaker 2: because you have so much standing water, so they're spraying
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  Speaker 2: for mosquitoes to kill them. Now, okay, they call that
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  Speaker 2: disease vector control, but is that really Is that not kimtrails?
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  Speaker 2: I mean that is a pump up hike, yes, and
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  Speaker 2: chemicals being supraated the a M trail. Yes, right, So
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  Speaker 2: what we really have to get to what is a
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  Speaker 2: KIM trail? And the sad part is that people don't
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  Speaker 2: want to find nuance in semantics and ontology, like the
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  Speaker 2: meaning of words and how we relate them to the
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  Speaker 2: world around us. So for me, KIM trail, chemical trail, contrail,
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  Speaker 2: condensation trail. Well, there, then it's a contrail and a
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  Speaker 2: KIM trail because it's a trail of chemicals coming from
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  Speaker 2: the jet exhaust, which condensation sticks to, which turns into
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  Speaker 2: a cloud. And once it turns into a cloud, it's
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  Speaker 2: neither a KIM trail or a contrail anymore. It's a
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  Speaker 2: serious cloud that kind of you know, conversation can't be
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  Speaker 2: had because people are so on the surface with this
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  Speaker 2: that they want to just go well, I see it
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  Speaker 2: with my eyes. Therefore, I know it's true. You're saying
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  Speaker 2: that this doesn't even exists. No, I'm not saying it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't exist. I'm saying it's a problem. I've been saying
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  Speaker 2: it's a problem for fifteen years. I testified eleven years
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  Speaker 2: ago at the United States Environmental Protection Agencies hearing on
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  Speaker 2: aviation pollution. You didn't do that. No other Kim Trail
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  Speaker 2: person did that. I brought three of my friends with me,
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  Speaker 2: Max Bliss, Patrick Roddy from Stop Spring US San Francisco,
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  Speaker 2: Amanda Bay's Madison Star moons or nickname, and Michael Saracino,
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  Speaker 2: a guy I met on Twitter at the time who
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  Speaker 2: talked about the effects of nanoparticles around airports causing autism
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  Speaker 2: and neurological problems. The thing is, people want to complain
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  Speaker 2: about the thing. But I would ask you this, If
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  Speaker 2: you're watching somebody who's scaring the hell out of you
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  Speaker 2: on a daily basis and they're not offering a solution,
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  Speaker 2: then they are not an activist. They're an infotainer. And
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  Speaker 2: there is a distinct difference between an activist and an infotainer.
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  Speaker 2: Infotainers are great for you know, feeding your addiction to fear.
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  Speaker 2: Now a lot of you will go, I'm not addicted
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  Speaker 2: to fear. Well, that's the first step in the twelve steps.
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  Speaker 2: You got to admit you have a problem. And if
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  Speaker 2: you're fine, you know, like, hey, you know, do you
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  Speaker 2: like I'm not going to tell you how to live
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  Speaker 2: your life. But if you walk outside and you're constantly going, man,
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  Speaker 2: they're trying to kill us, and you they somehow that
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  Speaker 2: causes you stress, then you need to deal with that
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  Speaker 2: in some way, because I tell you what, stress is
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  Speaker 2: going to kill you long before the Kim Trails ever will.
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  Speaker 2: So for me, that was that was the root of
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  Speaker 2: me coming out of my Kim Trail beliefs early on
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  Speaker 2: was a I wanted to prove that, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: was right. And in trying to prove that I was right,
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  Speaker 2: instead of you know, just pointing the finger and saying
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  Speaker 2: this person's a shill, that person is an agent, I
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  Speaker 2: engaged in them with vigorous debate because if you really
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  Speaker 2: want to learn anything, but forget learning anything, if you
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  Speaker 2: want to know you're right, like it's one thing to
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  Speaker 2: think you're right. It's another to confirm that you're right,
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  Speaker 2: not through confirmation bias, but through vigorous debate with people
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  Speaker 2: you disagree with. So in confronting people that I vigorously
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  Speaker 2: disagreed with time after time after time, I started to
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  Speaker 2: see holes in my own arguments. That's called metacognition. That
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  Speaker 2: goes all the way back to Aristotle and Socrates. How
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  Speaker 2: do you know anything? And the wise man would say,
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  Speaker 2: I know that I know nothing. So in that sphere,
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  Speaker 2: I'm constantly open to the possibility that I'm wrong, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm constantly confronting people that disagree with me to go, well,
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  Speaker 2: show me where I'm wrong. In fact, I've literally said
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  Speaker 2: at climate Viewer, on YouTube rumble x wherever, I will
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  Speaker 2: debate anyone, anytime, under any condition on these subjects because
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  Speaker 2: guess what, even if I lose the debate, I win
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day because now I'm growing again.
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  Speaker 2: I'm learning something new, my viewpoints of change. It's piqued
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  Speaker 2: my curiosity and I'm going to grow from that. Too
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  Speaker 2: many people have very crystalline viewpoints, and I want to
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  Speaker 2: be like water. I want to constantly go, am I right?
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  Speaker 2: Am I being honest to myself. And then my duty
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  Speaker 2: as an activist who's trying to educate others is to
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  Speaker 2: make sure that I'm telling them the truth, not just
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  Speaker 2: my truth, because that subjective truth shit is not real.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know that I'm telling the truth. And
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  Speaker 2: especially when I'm petitioning the government to make a change
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  Speaker 2: about the skies and clear the air, so to speak,
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  Speaker 2: I want to make sure that I don't look like
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  Speaker 2: a fool when I'm making these claims. So I'm not
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  Speaker 2: making claims based on my speculation, my biases. I'm making
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  Speaker 2: them based on the totality of evidence that I'm able
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  Speaker 2: to collect myself, that I can verify independent of journals
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  Speaker 2: and science and universities and governments. And then comparing and
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  Speaker 2: contrasting that with what does the totality of information plus
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  Speaker 2: propaganda tell me? That's how you get to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: logical truths. You know, this is the infallible only answer
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  Speaker 2: that I have left. Does that make sense? Am I
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  Speaker 2: over complicating that?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: It makes sense. But the question then that will come up, Jim,
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  Speaker 1: is why the focus on the motivation behind chemtralls? Does
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  Speaker 1: it reading matter? Ultimately, it's still toxins in the air.
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  Speaker 2: It matters because there are too many people who are
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  Speaker 2: singularly focused on the fact that every plane is part
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  Speaker 2: of a secret agenda. And once you go down that
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  Speaker 2: rabbit hole and that's where you get stuck, then you
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  Speaker 2: can't really focus on things like, well, if I don't
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  Speaker 2: like weather modification, then I don't like people who are
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  Speaker 2: doing cloud seating. If I don't like cloud seating, then
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  Speaker 2: I got to recognize the fact that cloud seating is invisible.
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  Speaker 2: So every single cloud seating project that has occurred since
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  Speaker 2: the nineteen forties is completely invisible. You cannot see somebody
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  Speaker 2: burning silver eye ed eyed flares either. Those are calcium chloride,
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  Speaker 2: these flares which contain a lot of aluminum in them.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, I'm not going to focus on that.
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  Speaker 2: My point is, you know what, I'm gonna go ahead
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  Speaker 2: and bring my first graphic up to kind of just
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  Speaker 2: explain where we are in the world when we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about this, if you don't mind. So when we're looking
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  Speaker 2: at the sky and we're looking at the troposphere, the
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  Speaker 2: troposphere typically this and this is going to range depending
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  Speaker 2: on where you are in the world. So if you're
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  Speaker 2: at the equator, obviously the number is going to be higher.
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  Speaker 2: The closer you get to the north or South pole,
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  Speaker 2: the lower the division between the troposphere and the stratosphere is.
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  Speaker 2: But typically we're talking about around thirty nine forty thousand
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  Speaker 2: feet that twelve kilometers, that is the division between the
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  Speaker 2: troposphere and the stratosphere. All weather modification occurs in the troposphere,
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  Speaker 2: so we're talking about from one foot off the ground
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  Speaker 2: all the way up to about forty thousand feet twelve kilometers.
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  Speaker 2: Weather modification using cloud seating, generators, cloud ionizers, lasers, you know,
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  Speaker 2: even marine cloud brightening, which is a form of geoengineering
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  Speaker 2: off of boats. All of that occurs on the ground
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  Speaker 2: and the planes that are flying burning flares anywhere from
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  Speaker 2: one thousand feet to about twenty thousand feet. Going any
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  Speaker 2: higher than that really doesn't make any sense. If you're
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  Speaker 2: just trying to make it rain. Then the geo engineers
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  Speaker 2: like David Keith will pop their faces up here for
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  Speaker 2: a second, David Keith, you know Ken Caldera, all of these,
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  Speaker 2: you know, wonderful people that everybody constantly talks about, but
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  Speaker 2: really they don't know the faces these gentlemen right here,
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  Speaker 2: you know, David Keith, Ken cald There probably the two
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  Speaker 2: most famous geoengineers on the planet most hated. When they're
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  Speaker 2: talking about doing solar radiation management SRM, they're talking about
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  Speaker 2: sixty to ninety thousand feet, so we're talking eighteen to
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven kilometers. So there's this disconnect between geoengineering, stratosphereic
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  Speaker 2: aerosol injection, the intentional release of chemicals to abate global warming,
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  Speaker 2: and all of the planes we see flying which are
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  Speaker 2: flying between thirty thousand to forty thousand feet forty five
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  Speaker 2: thousand feet if you're talking about jet private jets, so
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  Speaker 2: that's about the limit. And we know this because you
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  Speaker 2: can go to adsbexchange dot com any day and just
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  Speaker 2: zoom in, click on a private jet and it'll show
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  Speaker 2: you that this private jet is currently at forty three
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  Speaker 2: thousand feet, so that plane is currently in the stratosphere,
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  Speaker 2: and we can see that. You can see that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: right now, I have ADSB Exchange up and you can
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  Speaker 2: see that every square inch of the map is covered
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  Speaker 2: in planes. It is. It is absolutely insane when you
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  Speaker 2: see the size and scope of how many planes are
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  Speaker 2: in the air at any given time, and we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about attuned you know, one hundred to one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty thousand flights per day. That doesn't jive with the
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  Speaker 2: geoengineering plant, but it is geoengineering. So this is this
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  Speaker 2: is where the disconnect really happens, is that people they
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  Speaker 2: see a thing and they assume that it's the thing
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  Speaker 2: that David Keith and Ken Caldera and Bill Gates have
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  Speaker 2: been talking about all along, when in fact, every geoengineering
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  Speaker 2: project that has occurred to date, especially stratus heic aerosol injection,
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  Speaker 2: those tests they were all done with balloons. So make
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  Speaker 2: it make sense they why are they launching balloons to
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  Speaker 2: test geoengineering? But every single plane is part of Bill
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  Speaker 2: Gate's secret program to geo engineer the planet.
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  Speaker 1: You and I are misrepresenting their position. They're not saying
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  Speaker 1: it's every plane. They're saying that it's some planes.
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  Speaker 2: And this is what I will I will challenge because
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  Speaker 2: and just so you know, everybody on the last comment
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  Speaker 2: last video, I read all your comments. I had to withhold.
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  Speaker 2: I said, you know what I'm gonna I'm I could
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  Speaker 2: go in there and literally destroy every one of the
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  Speaker 2: comments because I'm that guy.
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  Speaker 1: I like fighting.
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  Speaker 2: I love fighting. I would debate you, but the reality
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  Speaker 2: of the situation is that half of the comments are
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  Speaker 2: made by astroturfers. They're not even real people. The other
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  Speaker 2: ones are very biased in their belief system. And honestly,
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  Speaker 2: even when other real people, because I know who the
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  Speaker 2: people were that were commenting and responding, they're all members
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  Speaker 2: of my telegram chat, They're in there trying to talk
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  Speaker 2: sense into these people. Meanwhile, they have no response for
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  Speaker 2: you know, the answers they're given. Wow, just had a
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  Speaker 2: brain fark. Where were we?
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  Speaker 1: Uh well, I was just saying that we apparent apparently
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  Speaker 1: misrepresent we misrepresent you. It's not every plane. At some planes,
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  Speaker 1: it's very simple.
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  Speaker 2: You go go and look at the radio sign data.
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  Speaker 2: And this is very easy to do. You can go
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  Speaker 2: to windy dot com. You can go to any place
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  Speaker 2: that has a radio sign. Look at what the atmospheric
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  Speaker 2: conditions are in your area at the time you take
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  Speaker 2: this video. And all you have to do is two things.
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  Speaker 2: Have a video camera, have your cell phone in your hand.
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  Speaker 2: Have ADSP exchange or flight radar in fact, show both.
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  Speaker 2: Take a video of the plane that you're claiming is
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  Speaker 2: kim trailing. Go to your flight tracker, show me the flight,
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  Speaker 2: and then show the atmosphere conditions.
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  Speaker 1: I've lost the exactly Sorry, sorry, I've lost that exact
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  Speaker 1: same question multiple times. And then they also say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but some of these planes are not on flat trails,
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  Speaker 1: but they don't.
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  Speaker 2: Show up on flight radar. That's what they always say,
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  Speaker 2: and I say, bullshit. I have been doing this for
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  Speaker 2: fifteen years. Out of fifteen years, for the first seven years,
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  Speaker 2: I did almost every single plane that I saw in
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  Speaker 2: the sky, and out of that entire time, maybe five
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  Speaker 2: planes didn't show up on the flight radar, on any
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  Speaker 2: one of the flight radars. So that is a possibility.
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  Speaker 2: It's extremely rare that you're going to see a plane
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  Speaker 2: that does not show up on any flight tracker, especially
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  Speaker 2: ADSP Exchange, because adsp Exchange is unique in that it
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  Speaker 2: is a citizen powered network of people who paid money
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  Speaker 2: out of their pocket to put a listening device in
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  Speaker 2: their backyard that is not run by the government. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: it shows military flights that do not show up on
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  Speaker 2: any other flight tracker on the world.
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  Speaker 1: So prove it. Yeah. And the other comment is the zigzag,
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  Speaker 1: it's the crisscrossing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Let let's just all right, So let's
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  Speaker 2: look at the zigzags, because this is so easily, just
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  Speaker 2: ridiculously simple to prove thirty years of airline travel, so
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  Speaker 2: a long many moons ago. These were all the flight
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  Speaker 2: tracks in the world in nineteen eighty okay, eighty five, ninety,
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  Speaker 2: two thousand, twenty, two thousand and four, two thousand and eight.
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  Speaker 2: Do we see a pattern here? This is caused by
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  Speaker 2: the exponential growth in flight better photo. I'm gonna just
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  Speaker 2: skip past all. These are all the flight pass in America,
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  Speaker 2: just in the USA. You see how many tic tac
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  Speaker 2: toes there are of just planes flying past each other. Well,
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  Speaker 2: how about this, this is nineteen ninety three for comparison,
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  Speaker 2: this is two thousand and four, my goodness. So I
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  Speaker 2: would say without a doubt that that is a lot
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  Speaker 2: of tic tac toes in that area. Wouldn't you say
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  Speaker 2: that it's a lot of tic tac toes.
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  Speaker 1: I just can't. But let me play Devil's advocate. They'll say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but this is a zoomed out view. We can't see
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  Speaker 1: that from our house. But what we can see is
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  Speaker 1: above the house, and what's in that so and so
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  Speaker 1: we'll see you.
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  Speaker 2: Just simply just come in here to like say, Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: and take a look at the directions of the flights.
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  Speaker 2: You can just start clicking on them, and there's that line,
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  Speaker 2: there's another one going that way, which one's going These
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  Speaker 2: are all flying up this way, so you can see
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  Speaker 2: they're all on a highway. You see that right, you
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  Speaker 2: can see one, two, three, four, five, six flights all
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  Speaker 2: in a line. They're all flying in the exact same line.
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  Speaker 2: The reason why you get grids in the sky is
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  Speaker 2: because the air is flowing from west to east. So
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  Speaker 2: after the first plane flies by, that line then moves,
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  Speaker 2: the next flight comes by. Now you have another line.
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  Speaker 2: That line then moves, Then the next flight comes by,
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  Speaker 2: and then that it moves. So it's not that they're
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  Speaker 2: flying and making the grids intentionally. They're literally on highways
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  Speaker 2: in the sky which run perpendicular to each other. So
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: you're inevitably going to get grids, You're going to get ex's,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: You're going to get these things because the sky is
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: a river and these things are constantly moving. One of
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: the biggest highway traffic jams in America happens right out
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: over the Gulf. It goes straight from Miami all the
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: way to Los Angeles, and you can follow it all
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the way across. In all of these planes. Here's two
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: that are literally crossing each other in opposite directions as
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: we're speaking. They're on the same highway. Oh no, they're
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: gonna collide. No, they're gonna fly. One's gonna fly under
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: the other, and they're gonna leave lines that are going to,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: you know, seem parallel like they're flying side by side,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: if they're leaving contrails at all. But that's that's my
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: answer to that. It's it's very simple to look at
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: that and go, okay, that's that's a thing.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: But Jim, there are people who grew up in the
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixties and they don't remember the sun beings as
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: dim as what it is today.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Well, that's because if you look at the nineteen sixties,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: there were barely any flights compared to today for starters.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: The second answer is the engines were very different than
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the engines we have today. They had low bypassed turbo jets,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: which produced large particles of black carbon. Back then, they
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: had a thing called black belch. This was very evident
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: at airports. If anybody watches a video of a B
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: fifty two bomber taking off you'll see the plumes of
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: black smoke coming out of the back of the engines.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: That is an old school low bypass turbojet, which all
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: of the planes at the time had. In nineteen seventy
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: they invented the high bypass turbofan, and by nineteen ninety
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: ninety percent of all planes on the planet were flying
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: with them. Now, these are distinctly different because they create nanoparticles,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: way more nanoparticles, and they produce more They produce more
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: particles at a colder temperature, which you know creates more contrail.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: So this is a visual comparison of the two. So
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: before you had large soot particles which made black, dense smoke,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: which didn't make contrails that persisted as easily, whereas today
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: you've got highly efficient engines that are roughly three to
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: ten times as large. I don't know if anybody's actually
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: googled this. Go look at a light low bypassed turbojet
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: compared to a high bypass turbofan. You can literally see
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: a pilot with his arm on the engine of an
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: old jet back in the nineteen sixties and he's just
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: leaning up against it. And then you go and look
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: at and I could bring a photo up right now,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: but you know we won't do. The podcaster is dirty
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: like that. You do it yourself. High bypassed turbofan and
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: then watch a man standing next to it. He's this
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: big and the engine is this big. So these are
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: monstrously big engines. And of course the next thing they
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: would say is, well, that's because it has it's driven
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: by a fan, and the fan doesn't even produce anything.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: But what they're about is that the high bypass turbofan
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: still has a jet engine. So the old engine would
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: be just this main casing in the center. All they
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: did was they added this huge cowl around it, put
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: a big fan blade on the front of it. Now
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: you still got the jet exhaust, but you also have
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: this highly compressed, very cold air and a stream of
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: cloud seeds coming out. These planes make more clouds. In fact,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: here is a low bypass of Boeing seven oh seven
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: right next to a high bypass airbus A three forty,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: and it's making contrails. The old school plane is not.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: And this is because of the schmid Appleman criterion. This
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: is because of the way atmospheric physics happen. People don't
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: want the nuance of that. They don't want to try
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: to wrap their head around the science of that. I
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: cannot convince you that this is true. You have to
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: come to that on your own, and I'm not you know,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: so we're not going to do that. But what we
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: can do is we can.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Show you the tools.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: So you can go to windy dot com and you
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: can install the contrail finder. This will make it easy
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: for you so that you don't actually have to click
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: on a radio sign plot and then understand how to
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: read a skew T plot. Okay, I get that this
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: is complicated for some people. Looks really complicated. You know,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: there's numbers, there's a chart, there's all this stuff going on.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Why would I want to look at that? That seems
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: kind of tough, Jim. Why are you being a jerk
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: about the science here? But the bottom line is when
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: you look at the schmid Applman criteria, you need two things.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: You need due point depression, which is the difference between
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: the temperature and the humidity. Temperature is the red line,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: humidity is the blue line.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: What are you know?
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: This is the due point? So at about negative sixty
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: at sixty percent humidity and negative fifty degrees celsius. That's
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: where you produce something called an ice supersaturator. Read So,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: if I go to the contrail finder and I just
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: click randomly on the map, what you will see is long,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: possibly persistent contrails from forty thousand all the way down
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: to thirty thousand feet one thousand feet higher. Long long
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: contrails possible, forty two thousand, forty three thousand feet short
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: contrails possible. We said this in the last interview where
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I said, literally, you're going to see one plane leaving
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: a chim trail, and two thousand feet above it is
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: a plane that's not. And the reason why is because
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: when you look at the numbers, I'm gonna skip the
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: you know, this is the Appleman chart over here. We'll
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: just go to the one that's important. This is contrail persistence.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Every one of these with a check mark, which is
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: the forty thousand all the way to thirty thousand feet
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: or in that range that I said, so write at
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: about negative fifty. They got ray here is negative forty eight,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: negative fifty, negative fifty two relative humidity and with respect
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: to water, relative humidity, with respect to ice r HI.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: So at about sixty percent. That's all you need. These
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: right here is seventy seventy six percent relative humidity and
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: then negative fifty. All of these are what's called an
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: ice supersaturated region. These are the area. These are the
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: chemtrails you're looking for. So I can tell you right now,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: anybody here, I don't even have to know before I
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: click it. I can look at this and I can
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: already tell you based on atmospheric pressure and these. I'm
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: looking at high clouds right now. So everything in white
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: is high clouds. This is not going to be near
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: as bad over here. Probably down here.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Nine just go to the UK, since this is for UK,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: co on them.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, so here in the UK right here we have none.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: So look, no contrails predicted for this portion. Now here
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: are the high clouds. So I'm gonna come up here
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna clean. Oh what do I see? Longer contrails, longer,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: possibly persistent at twenty three than twenty two thousand feet.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: That is not even possible in America because it's too
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: close to the ground. Again, we go back to where
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: is the tropopause? How low is the stratosphere? So as
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: you go further north towards the north pole, the stratosphere
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: gets lower to the ground, it condenses all of that
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: cold because once you hit the stratosphere, it starts to
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: warm up. Now you can see that also right here
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: in the radio sign data. So if I actually look
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: at the radio sign data, this is your persistent contrail
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: formation region right here. See where it's way far apart,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: and then it starts to come together. Right about here
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: is your sweet spot. And then as I come up
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: this column, up this UK column, once we hit right here,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I could tell you right with that out of doubt
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: that at thirty five thousand feet this is where the
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: stratosphere begins. The reason why I know that is because
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: now the temperature and the de point they go in
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: opposite directions. This is called an inversion. It actually gets
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: colder as you go up. So negative thirty two, negative
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: forty five, negative fifty seven, negative fifty eight, then negative
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: fifty nine, Oh wait, negative fifty eight, negative fifty seven,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: negative fit all the way back to negative fifty four.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: It's actually getting warmer. So once you hit the stratosphere
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: that this is what's called an inversion. This is what
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: causes big cumulus clouds to seem to hit an invisible
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: wall and then spread out. Clouds do not form in
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: the stratosphere, which brings us to the real point of
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: this whole. You know, the science experiment that I'm showing
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: you here. If what you're seeing is geoengineering stratospheric aerosol injection,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: it will not make clouds. It cannot make clouds. It
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: is physically impossible to make clouds in the stratosphere using
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: stratospheric aerosol injection. It would be invisible by default. So
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: whoever explained this to you did a poor job of
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: explaining what SAI is. The purpose of SAI is to
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: widen the sky by increasing albedo. That does not create clouds.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: So the rub is people think that they're seeing geoengineering,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: but in fact, most forms of geoengineering you cannot see.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: It does? But now what are you ultimately saying.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Then, I'm saying that aircraft just commercial aircraft. When you're
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: buying crap off of Amazon dot Com and it's being
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: flown to your house, that plane, which is not part
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: of some secret government agenda, is modifying the weather. It
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: is geoengineering the sky. Why whenever its exhaust goes into
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: the stratosphere. Almost a billion pounds of sulfur ends up
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: in the stratosphere from commercial aviation. What did David Keith
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: and Ken Caldera and Bill Gates want to do? The
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: number one chemical that they said they want to put
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: into the stratosphere to cool the planet is sulfur. Ding
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: ding ding. Read the freaking papers. Don't listen to me,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: don't listen to anybody else. Read the science, the things
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: that they've been trying to get budgets for the experiments
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: that have been done. It always comes back to one
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: of five chemicals. It's calcium is number two. At this point,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: most people don't even know that calcium is a metal.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: That calcium, aluminum, titanium oxide, and diamond dust. So those
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: are the five chemicals that have been most studied, most
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: talked about for geoengineering stratspic Garrison injection sulfur has always
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: been the number one that they've talked about for a
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: specific reason. And when David Key says, you know, I
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: want to do geoengineering with sulfur, but it's going to
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: kill people, suddenly that's just not sexy. I don't know
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: why it's not. I don't understand why people don't want
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: to wrap their head around this. I'm going to route
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: this real quick and I'm going to play you just
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: a short clip so that I can really bring this home. Now,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: this is all available on whether modificationhistory, dot com, slash geoengineering.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Who's funding geoengineering research, governance and deployment. These are the
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: people actually paying for geoengineering, all of the corporate operations,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: universities that are involved in this, you know, and open
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: philanthropy adviser which is Bill Gates through Gates Venture Funding,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Marine Cloud Brightening, the sole radiation management governance initiative which
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: has degrees dot ngo. I've been tracking these for years
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: for a reason. Now I say SRM will kill people.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Why do I say that because that's what David Key says.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Let me know if you can hear this, because you
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: should be able to.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: This is a really important moral point. So if I
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: made a decision, or if there was a collective decision
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: to do a geoasuring program, and you put, say the
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: kind of program I think makes more sense, put about
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: a million tons a year, and better than to say
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: you might end up killing many tens of thousands of
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: people a year, it's a direct result of that decision.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: I think that has moral consequences. I don't sweep under
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: the rugs. It's a case where I take this much
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: differently from Allen and think it's a much more serious issue. Now.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: It's true that as doing that, he would hope that
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: the overall benefits of human mortality would be so that
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: you would save many, many more people than that. But
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: the fact that you would save more people than you
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: killed doesn't mean there's no moral impact.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: He laughs as he says, it doesn't mean there's no
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Now he's talking specifically about putting a million tons a
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: year of sulfur into the stratosphere. This is from the
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: geoengineering debate, August seventh, twenty thirteen. And then he goes
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: on to say that geoengineering is already occurring every day
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: through commercial aviation because commercial jets are putting their sulfur
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: into the stratosphere. So people don't want to talk about that.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: You know, that issue alone, how it's actually working. Twenty
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: seven reasons why this is stratosfor this is Alan Robock,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: the guy that's sitting right next to him right here.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: This dude, Alan Rowe wrote a paper which basically came
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: up with twenty seven reasons why solar geoengineering is a
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: bad idea stratospheric geoengineering and only six which are good
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: ideas reasons why it should happen. What I'm saying, in effect,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: is that planes are doing this for sure, They're just
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: not doing it through separate bottles, separate pumps, separate pipes.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: That's why nobody's ever found them. That's why you're ridiculed
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: by scientists and politicians and lawmakers anytime you try to
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: make this argument that all of this is somehow some
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: secret program. This is why in Representative Mighty Fritz, who
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I've talked to multiple times on the phone in Tennessee,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: who was the first in the United States to ban
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: geoengineering and weather modification, could not understand why people were
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: threatening to kill the Tennessee Department of Environmental Protection. And
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: after the law was passed, people had a lot of
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: hopium that the Kim trails would go away. Well, we
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: banned weather modification and geoengineering. The trails did not go away.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: So then hopium turned into copium and people started threatening
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: to kill the government officials for not doing their job. Meanwhile,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: they don't understand that the states have no ability to
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: regulate aircraft traffic, let alone aircraft emissions. That's in the
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: purview of the United States Environmental Protection Agency. The same
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: thing happened in Florida. Florida is the Sunshine state in America.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: That's their slogan. They banned geoengineering and weather modification. I
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: applaud that. I am anti geoengineering. I am anti weather modification.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I always have been, always will be. I think these
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: people are dangerous. They don't know what the hell they're doing.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Most of them are grifters and will never not not
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: with all the AI, not with all the sensors that
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: they want to put up. It will be decades before
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: we could even try to exert some kind of control
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: on the weather without there being deleitarious effects. And I
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: applaud their actions. Yes, ban geoengineering. Banned weather modification of
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: your state. That way, nobody can cloud seed. Nobody's going
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: to geo engineer from your state anyway. But even if
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: you ban it, you're still not going to be able
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: to do anything about it. But at least you're making
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: your point. None we do not approve of this. Every state,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: every country should ban geoengineering, and then eventually maybe we
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: could get to a point where it's illegal. This does
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: not change the fact that your laws cannot change physics
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: and physics. The apple the Schmidt Appleman criterion has been
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: understood since the World War Two. It has only gotten
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: worse since World War Two. And for those who say, well,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: you know this is only have and recently, it's never
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: happened before, I'll show you newspaper articles from nineteen fifty
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: eight in Palm Springs, California, where they were saying, look,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: our entire economy is based on tourism, and the contrails
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: are not going away. In fact, they're blocking out the
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: sun in nineteen fifty eight. So is it a problem?
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: You damn right, it's a problem that I've literally devoted
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: my life to ending geo engineering in all its forms,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: including aviation pollution which turns into cirrus clouds which block
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: the sun, and loading of the stratosphere with black carbon
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: metals and sulfur from aviation fuel emissions. But you need
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: to know that that's what the hell's doing it in
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: order to fight the things. So my main point is this,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I personally believe the Kimtrail conspiracy is this to keep
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: you people so scared of a freaking straw man that
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: you never actually fight the problem. You're gonna be so
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: busy looking for my secret pipes, some secret pumps, my
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: global warming. Oh wait, I'll bet the ninety nine percent
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: of the people who believe in kim trails don't believe
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: global warming is real. But so you can you can
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: see through all the propaganda on that, but you can't
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: see through the propaganda related to chim trails because it
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: just sounds too good to be true.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: But I was saying to you before we started recording
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: that there is a strange psychology. It's like a victimhood mentality.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: It's there is a group of people who want it
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: to be true that the skies are being littered with
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: aeroplanes that are spraying us because they want to make
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: us chronically ill. That's the other one, not to kill us,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: but just to make us ill.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: You know what's even worse about the true truth? The
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: actual truth is this there, and this is so sad
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: that people believe this that if they don't see the lines,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: it's not a spray day. That's that's where you've got
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: it so twisted up. In your head that if I
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: see the thing, the thing is dangerous. If I don't
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: see the thing, the thing is not dangerous.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Like ding COVID.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Because remember the sorry but the augument jing COVID was
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of flights would just cancel. You were canceled.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: So they fore, Yeah, seventy four percent of the flights
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: went away during COVID, resulting in greater than a fifty
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: percent reduction in clouds produced by planes. Is that because
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: they just couldn't afford to continue poisoning everybody. It doesn't
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: even make sense. In fact, if you look at the
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: history of bile logical warfare, every aerial spray program back
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: to the zene cabmium sulfide sprayings, which was called the
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Manhattan Rochester Coalition Operation Sea Spray. You know, go get
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: your entire list of crazy shit the government did to
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: spray us. Every single one of those happened at low altitude.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: It doesn't even make sense if you're going to make
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: a concentrated poison to you know, slowly kill the population
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: or do some nefarious crap to do it at forty
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: thousand feet at twelve kilometers up. You know, all of
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: these programs, you know, like the Operation Large Area Coverage
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: with this C one nineteens. They were flying, you know,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: maybe five thousand feet. They were not flying at forty
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: thousand feet. So, you know, dilution is the solution for pollution.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: So if you're going to actually, you know, put some
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: kind of dangerous chemical, you know, to poison people, you're
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: gonna do it at a low altitude. Doesn't make sense.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: But let's just let's pretend that they've got some kind
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: of special concoction that they're you know, okay, I could
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: go with that. Riddle me this. If there are no
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: white lines behind the planes. People who believe this will
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: tell you it's it's a nose spray day, they said
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: during the government shutdown. Well, they weren't spraying during the
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: government shut down because we didn't see clouds. And I'm
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: looking at you know, the CADREI fighter, I'm looking at
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: radio sign dat. I'm like, it's like really dry. Now,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: that could be a coincidence, could totally be coincident. Maybe
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I'm the one who's brained dead here. But the problem
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: is this planes create on the order of twenty quadrillan
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: twenty quadrillion ultrafying particles per second at eighty percent prop us.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: They're doing that if it's making a cloud or not.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: It's not like the nanoparticles of metal go away. So
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: what are we What are we talking about here with
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: the nanoparticles of metal? I don't think people have really
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: wrapped their head around this. Where's my where's my bookmark?
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Here it is?
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I'm gonna make it as clear as
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I possibly can because I like to go with stuff
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: I can prove beyond a shadow of doubt. This is
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: sticking a court of law. And what we have right
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: here is metals detected in jet exhaust. Now most people
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: would say, well, they're spraying us with heavy metals. None
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: of these metals on this line here a heavy metals.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: You really need to look up the definition of heavy.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: It's by atomic weight. So anyway, we won't get into that.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: So where does this come from and why does it matter?
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Because this is from a paper called chemical characterization of
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Freshly emitted particulate matter from Aircraft exhaust using single particle
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: mass spectrometry. What did they find? They found chromium, iron, molybdenum, sodium, calcium, aluminum, vanadium, barium,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: oh there's aluminium and barium, cobalt, copper, nickel, lead, magnesium, manganese, silicon, titaniums,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: their conium were also detected in the jet exhaust. So
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: all of these metals are in the jet exhaust. If
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: you actually look at the paper, and I actually have
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: all this is going to be available on chemtrailfags dot com.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: And I haven't shown this to anybody yet, so I'll
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: show it to you. This is from that same paper,
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: and this is the PowerPoint presentation showing their results chemical
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: characterization freshly emitted particles. And when you scroll down here
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: and I'm just going to go straight for the the
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: important part metals detected in exhaust particles greater than ten
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: percent sodium, iron, calcium, chromium. Again, I said calcium was
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: one of the metals they wanted to geoengineer with coincidence.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean just it is a coincidence,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: and it isn't one to ten percent silicon, aluminum, cobalt, copper, molybdenum,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: and magnesium, less than one percent vanadium, manganese, nickel, barium, titanium,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: and lead, en zirconium. These are the metals that are
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: coming out of the back of the planes, whether you
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: see a white stripe or not, how much metals are
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: in the air at any given time. I'll type gaya
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: in and I'll show you. You can go right here.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: High resolution Global Aviation Emissions Inventory based on ADSB twenty
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: nineteen through twenty twenty one, and in twenty nineteen they
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: say right here that non vols W particulate matter mass
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: is twenty one point four gigagrams. So twenty one point
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: four gigagrams. If I take that, that's uh, I'm gonna
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: write giga grams and we're gonna con you know, change
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: that to uh two pounds and then we'll do ito.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: So that's forty seven million pounds. Okay, that's forty seven
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: million pounds of soot and metals in twenty nineteen that
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: came out. I could do it in kilograms if you like, uh,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I mean either way, gigagrams to kilograms. You do the math.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: That's two point one four time to the seventh power. Regardless,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: that's seven zeros behind it. It's a big ass number.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: My point is that's that's forty forty seven million pounds
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: of soot in metals coming out of lanes just in
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, the year before COVID, before it all dipped
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: and went back up. That's coming out. Whether you see
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: a white stripe or not. Is that a chem trail. Yes,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: it's a trail of chemicals. But for freak's sake, water
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: is a chemical. So are we gonna are we really
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: gonna split hairs about terminology all day long? Because it
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: technically if we want to, you know, get real technical
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: about you know, what is the meaning of words. If
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I get my water hose and I spray it into
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: the air, that is a chem trail of H two zero,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: that's dihydrogen monoxide chemtrails. But at the end of the day,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I focus on, you know, how much damage is that
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: and how does that compare to global emissions of aluminum
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: in the atmosphere. And then you see something like c mass,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: which is calcium magnesium aluminosilicate. People do these tests of
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: rain water all the time and they show how much
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: aluminums in their rain water. Here's another challenge. Ask any
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: one of the people who's ever done a rainfall sample
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: who tested for aluminum? Did you test for silicon? Because
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: if you don't, then you cannot differentiate between did it
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: come from a plane, did it come from a local
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: pollution source, or is it mineral dust like Saharan desert,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: dust like dirt that has been lifted up by what's
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: called the brewer dobs in circulation into the air. This
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: is called illuminocilicate. It is typically one aluminum to three silicon.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: So if you get three thousand parts per million silicon
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: and one thousand part per million aluminum, that's not chemtrails,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: that's dirt.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Jim, what about those anominies We often see these these
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: videos and photos of very strange moments with aircraft. Well,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: if you.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: See it coming out of the butt end of the plane,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: that's called the auxiliary power unit. It's called an APU.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Go look it up.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: It's a thing. The APU is the auxiliary power unit.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: And there there's been a couple famous videos that have
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: gone around. One where a plane was on a tarmac,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: you know, it's on the ground at an airport, and
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: there's these plumes of smoke just shooting out the tail
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: end of the plane. That was actually an APU that
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: caught on fire. And all you have to do is
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: instead of typing in Kim trail plane on you know
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: airport uh you know, uh tarmac type in you know,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: uh commercial ap commercial aviation APU fire and you'll see
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: the exact same video from the original telling you exactly
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: what the hell it is. You can go ask AI
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: if you trust it, what is an auxiliary power unit?
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: And can it smoke be generated from it? That's that's
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: what you're seeing in those videos. Other videos where they
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: show you know, these hoses, you know, looks like a
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: nozzle on the side of the plane and all this
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: you know, liquid just coming out and it's all there's
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: spring chemetrum, you know. And that's another case where you
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: have fuel air dumping. It's not common. It Usually it's
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: because there's something wrong with the plane. They need to land.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: They they have to weigh out exactly how much fuel
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: could be on the plane when it takes off and
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: when it comes in for a landing. If it's not
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: at a certain weight, they have to dump that fuel.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: That fuel is toxic if you're too low to the ground.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: There have been lawsuits where kids in like kindergartens are
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: getting dumped, you know, fuel dumped on them that did
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: not evaporate before hitting the ground falling Nevada had a
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: very famous case against the United States Military because when
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: they switched to JPA jet fuel, they had a certain
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: altitude that they were allowed to dump fuel at. But
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: they changed from JP four to JP eight jet fuel,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: and this JP eight was not evaporating before hitting the ground.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: This caused a leukemia outbreak in Falling, Nevada, and there
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: was a class action lawsuit against the US Air Force
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: which led to changing the altitude the minimum altitude at
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: which they could dump fuel. There are thousands of cases
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: where you know, the governments, private companies do stuff end
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: up poisoning people. And that's why I talk about pollution, privacy,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: and propaganda. Pollution is real. Weather modification is pollution. Geoengineering
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: is pollution. The planes are doing in the sky is pollution,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: whether we're talking about the metals, the soot, or even
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: the clouds they're making. That is visible pollution, which is
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: blocking sunlight, changing the diffraction in diffusion of light, which
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: changes the fraction which is available for vitamin D absorption,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: for photosynthesis of plant life. For psychological profiles of people
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: on the ground who have serious nephophobia or just have
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: seasonal effective disorder because they never get to see the
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: sign they live in a high traffic area. These are
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: all real concerns, and I'm not discounting any of them.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: In fact, I'm the one who's literally just trying to
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: get people to understand. If you care about making these
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: lines go away, you need to understand how they're made.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: And then you need to understand that even when the
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: planes aren't making the lines, it's still a freaking problem.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: And if you understand that, then you can actually go
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: and you can talk to your legislator, you can talk
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: to a lawyer and sue. But you need to understand
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: how to explain this stuff. That's why words matter. That's
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: why this nuanced conversation matters. You're never going to get
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: rid of the lines in the sky if you keep
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: going it's secret pumps and pipes and Bill Gates is
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: behind it or the CIA. What are you going to
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: do about that? I mean, honestly, what could you do
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: about the CIA running a secret government program? Well, I'll
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: give you an example. When they did the zinc cabmium
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: sulfide sprayings during the nineteen fifties through the nineteen seventies.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: It wasn't until two thousand and eight that the government
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: admitted they did it. This was the US Army Chemical
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Corps of engineers. They the US Army Chemical Corps was
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: spraying radioactive zinc cabmium sulfide for damn near twenty years
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: from nineteen fifties through the nineteen seventies and did not
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: admit to it till thirty eight years later. So if
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: you want to if you want to stay with this narrative,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: if you want to believe what you believe, then you're
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: you know, like hell, I used to make the joke
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: all the time. I'm currently forty nine years old. I'll
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: be eighty years old and watching a holographic you know, display,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: and I'm watching ZNN news, and they're going to come
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: on there and say back. In their early twenty ten's,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: the CIA was involved in a secret program to geoengineer
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: the entire planet, where they were using a special cocktail
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: of chemicals which made clouds to block sunlight in the
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: belief that they would somehow cool the planet. And then
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: I'll then you can go I knew it, I knew it.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: But will it matter? Because your old ass is about
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: to die and you couldn't do anything about the secret
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: government program. Then you couldn't do anything about it when
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: you were Jerry, you know, like in hospice, about to
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: die in the hospital. I'm I'm work. Everything I'm doing
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: is based on the single premise that what can I
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: do about what I can prove? Because I want to
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: make a difference and I want to give people hope.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Hope is the opposite of fear. I want people to
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: be hopeful that they can do something about this and
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: empower them with information so they can be an activist
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: and do something about it. I'm not here. I'm gonna
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: curse because there no this is what I do here.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not your info fucking tainer. I'm not here for
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: your info fucking tainment. If you want that, there's one
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty you know, fear porn pushing people that
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: are going to give you exactly what you need. I'm
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: here to challenge you to think. This is called metacognition.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Look it up. This is me pushing you off of
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Mount Stupid in your Dunning Krueger world view so that
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: you realize, just like I realized over a decade ago,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: I was wrong. I was so wrong that I had
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: to change everything I thought about this thing. And I'm
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: still learning more about it every single day. Germ here
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: is being intellectually honest with you guys by giving you
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to hear an alternative perspective. What was ironic
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: about the comment section on the last video was some
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: jackass on there had the nerve to say, could we
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: get somebody else on with an alternative perspective? He already
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: was on here, you dumb motherfucker. Dane Wiggington was on here.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: So the alternative perspective is literally on geo engineering. Watch
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: go watch the dimming. That is the alternative perspective. That's
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: not the alt that is the mainstream perspective of Kim Trail's.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: What I'm telling you is the alternative explanation. The only
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: other explanation is you got debunkers here, you got kim
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Tards here, and me smack in the middle going. The
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: debunkers are wrong because it's not harmless water vapors. The
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: kim Tards are wrong because it's not all pumps and
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: pipes and secret government program it's it's it's both. It's
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: water vapor turning into clouds, which is weather modification, it
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: is climate engineering. Some of it may be intentional. Most
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: of it isn't. But regardless, it is climate engineering, and
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: it's a problem, and it's a problem whether they're making
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: white lines or not. That's that's the most nuanced version
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: of the story you're gonna get. Both both sides are
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: diametrically opposed. One says it's completely harmless. One says it's
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: gonna kill you. And I'm going, I don't freaking know
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: if it's gonna kill you, but it's definitely a problem.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Is that as clear as I can make myself on that.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: You haven't said anything about rocketry.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: That's where I started with this was like I was
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: trying to compare the numbers. So I said, forty four
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: million pounds of nanoparticles coming from jet exhaust, and that's
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: that's forty three million flights that year in twenty nineteen. Okay,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: to put this into perspective, this is about two point
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: eight billion gallons of jet fuel. Now, let's compare that
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: to one Space Shuttle lunch. The solid rocket boosters on
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: the Space Shuttle when it was taking off at NASA
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: produced three hundred and two million tons of aluminum oxide.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: One launch produces more aluminum than every single plane flying
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: every single day for all of twenty nineteen. I did
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: the math on it at one point and it came
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: to close to I think it was all of the
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Space Shuttle flights combined came to like eight hundred and
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: eight thousand tons of aluminum oxide. I could go back
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: and revisit that real quick. I have it calculated somewhere.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: The Kimas never took about NASA and SpaceX by the way,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: they never mentioned I.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Mean of them probably believed the Earth's flat, so you know,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: they don't even believe that these are real rockets. This
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: is all just CGI. But yeah, you're right, like you
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: can go look and you know the history and the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: time stamps don't lie. I did an entire series called
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: kim Tree from Space on sounding rockets, which intentionally release barium, trimethol, aluminum, lithium,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: strontium in the upper atmosphere. These sounding rockets are used
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: in combination with facilities like harp ionospheric heaters, with other
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: upper atmosphere radars like super DARN, the Super Dual Auroral
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: Radar Network. All these are mapped out on Climate viewer
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: dot org. Sounding rockets intentionally dump chemicals. Then you've got
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: solid rocket boosters, which are predominantly aluminum. I think it's perchlorate,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: so makes massive amounts of aluminum, you know, aluminum oxide
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: in the upper atmosphere. Now, I try to relate that
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: to the Space Eggs thing, but Space Eggs a lot
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: of their rockets are running on liquid oxygen, so it
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: it's kind of changing. Now it totally depends. Now the
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Artemis rocket solid rocket, it's kind of like the Atlas five,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like the Artemis rocket that
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: they just built, I believe is also I know, it
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: has solid rocket boosters on it just the same. They're
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: identical to the ones that the Space Shuttle launch, So
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: those are putting a massive amount of aluminum into the air.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: But then I started to like go, you know, like,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: am I being hyperbolic about this? Like am I overfixated
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: on you know, the human born sources of aluminum because
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: illumina is like the most plentiful freaking metal in all
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: dirt worldwide. And you compare the numbers to like how
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: much you know, c mass ends up in the upper troposphere,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: and it just it just absolutely dwarfs all the other numbers.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: But that's trusting the science, which I'm not going to
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: just take their for it, which is why I suggest
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: to people, if you're gonna do a rainfall sample, make
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: sure you test for silicon also, so test for silicon
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: and aluminum, and then you'll know, well, if you see
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: a lot of silicon three times three to four times
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: as much silicon as you see aluminum, then that's probably
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: dirt that is mineral dust. And that's why you get
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: you're basically giving the debunkers all the ammunition they need
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: to mock you mercilessly when you can't think critically about
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: the thing you're doing. If you're gonna pay all this
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: money and you go get your rain sample tested at
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: a laboratory, you could throw silicon in there and just
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: know for yourself, all right, just so that I can
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: double check to make sure I'm not an idiot, let
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: me make sure it's not mineral dust that's in there,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: because that's really easy to tell, is that aluminosilicate. I
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: didn't know this five years ago, I mean honestly, like,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: I had no freaking clue. But then after you know,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: you get into these arguments, look at the rainfall samples,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: and they go, well, have you ever considered this? And
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: then you start looking at the totals, and then you
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: talk to a couple of geologists, talk to a couple
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  Speaker 2: you know, atmospheric physicists, and they're like, you do understand that,
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  Speaker 2: like there before humans there was rain, So like before
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  Speaker 2: humans there were clouds and there were rain. What made
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  Speaker 2: those clouds and what made the rain, well, there were
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  Speaker 2: cloud condensation nuclei. What cloud condensation nuclei were the predominant
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  Speaker 2: sources of cloud formation rainfall before humans existed. Bacteria and
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: mineral dust bacteria. What do you mean? Bacteria like pseudomonous serringu.
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  Speaker 2: It is a cloud seating bacteria. It forms ice, rainforests.
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  Speaker 2: Trees put off their own cloud condensation nuclei. So trees
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  Speaker 2: actually release chemicals which really are aerosols that make clouds.
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  Speaker 2: That's why we have things called rain forests. So the
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  Speaker 2: point is the atmosphere is very complicated. The more you
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  Speaker 2: think you know about it, the more you'll The more
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  Speaker 2: you learn about it, the more you'll realize we barely
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  Speaker 2: understand what the hell's going on there. And that's why
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  Speaker 2: you can't get an accurate weather forecast seven days from now.
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  Speaker 2: That and the fact that people are constantly trying to
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  Speaker 2: modify the weather. I mean, how could they ever get
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  Speaker 2: it right? But as far as cloud formation goes, aerosol
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  Speaker 2: cloud interaction is the greatest unknown in climate science and
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  Speaker 2: it will remain that way for a very long time
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  Speaker 2: because it is modeling chaos. It is modeling very minute.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about nanoparticles and how they interact with sunlight,
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  Speaker 2: with water, vapor, with wind, with temperature and pressure, and
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  Speaker 2: then trying to model that on a global scale. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think people realize how big the damn planet is
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  Speaker 2: to really start to, you know, look at maps regularly,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and then you start to go, well, well, no,
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  Speaker 2: wonder we don't really understand what the hell is going on.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I'll leave you with this one, the contrail problem,
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  Speaker 2: the Kim trail, We'll use whatever word you want, Kim
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  Speaker 2: trail problem. Geosynchronous satellites cannot detect eighty percent of contrails
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  Speaker 2: that low Earth orbit satellites can detect, and low Earth
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  Speaker 2: orbit satellites miss eighty percent of contrails that ground based
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  Speaker 2: all sky cameras observe, which means this that if a
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  Speaker 2: camera on the ground can see contrails that a low
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  Speaker 2: Earth orbit, you know, like we're talking about like starlink,
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  Speaker 2: you know that area. If ground based observation sees eighty
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  Speaker 2: percent more contrails than low Earth orbit satellites, and they
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  Speaker 2: see eighty percent more than geosynchronous satellites, then obviously people
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  Speaker 2: on the ground with iPhones see more contrails than scientists
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  Speaker 2: believe exist. So it's our duty to record and report
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  Speaker 2: this problem because science, which you know is never settled
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  Speaker 2: and is usually wrong, does not have this figured out.
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  Speaker 2: We cannot determine how much of the sky, how much
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  Speaker 2: of the clouds in the sky, are attributable to planes
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  Speaker 2: flying through it, because you only have have about a
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  Speaker 2: ten to forty five minute window between a linear contrail
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  Speaker 2: becoming a big, fat ass cerrus cloud, and once that
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  Speaker 2: line fans out and blocks the sun and turns into
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  Speaker 2: a serious cloud, the scientists, the people who are observing
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  Speaker 2: all this, there's no way to tell the difference between
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  Speaker 2: natural cirrus clouds and man made cirrus clouds. And that's
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  Speaker 2: why I came up with the hashtag cirrus clouds matter
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  Speaker 2: is because that is at the heart of the problem.
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  Speaker 2: You have a very short window of time bet between
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  Speaker 2: planes making the original the what they call serrus homogenitus
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  Speaker 2: man made cirrus, and then serious Homo mutatus mutated. It
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: is now fanned out, has become like natural sirrus. During
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: that window of opportunity, you have to observe it to
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  Speaker 2: know that it was what made the cirrus cloud. So
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: we're grossly under reporting how much aviation, commercial, cargo, military
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  Speaker 2: contributes to cloud cover. And that is because there's no
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  Speaker 2: will to really understand it. Why is there no will
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  Speaker 2: to understand it? Because all the people who are pissed
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: off about it are busy saying that it's pumps and
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: pipes and secret government programs and not saying, hey, I'm tired.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: You don't stop trying to be an expert. Stop trying
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: to be you know, so freaking in the know that
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: you're just, you know, better than everybody else. You simply
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  Speaker 2: have to say.
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  Speaker 1: To your legal.
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  Speaker 2: Representative of your government or whatever, I don't like planes
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  Speaker 2: making clouds that block the sun. Once you get to
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  Speaker 2: that point in your life, you're no longer stuck in
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: this speculation loop. You're no longer stuck with this narrative
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: that somebody else in plant in your head that you
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: now believe like it's you know, written in the Bible.
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  Speaker 3: It is not.
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  Speaker 2: It is just taking all of the narrative and throwing
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  Speaker 2: it away. The simplest slaves speak free version of the
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  Speaker 2: story is this, I don't like planes making clouds that
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  Speaker 2: block the sun.
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  Speaker 1: Please stop.
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  Speaker 2: And once you get to that point in your life,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: then you nobody can debunk you. Nobody can argue with that.
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  Speaker 2: Planes do make clouds. Those clouds block the sun. Now
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not speculating at all. I'm not putting any of
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: my personal beliefs, especially crazy personal beliefs that I cannot
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: prove into it. This is like debate one oh one.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: So once you get to that point, and I've done
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: this to multiple debunkers, and I tell them and say, look,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: I just don't like planes farting and I don't like
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: plane far it's making clouds that block out the sun.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: And then they go, well why, and I'm like, cause
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: it's ugly, okay, you know, like I don't like linear things.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: There's nothing linear in nature. There are no straight lines
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: in nature except planes. Apparently, you say that's natural. Explain
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  Speaker 2: to me how that's natural. And then when I turn
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: it on them, then then they get They all of
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: a sudden, they're on the defensive. This is just logic, guys.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: So like, I'm not here to tell you you know,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: everything you believe is bullshit and you know you shouldn't
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: care about this. I'm saying everything you believe is bullshit,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: and you should care about this enough to actually educate yourself,
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  Speaker 2: that's all.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's all.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what you're looking for too, is that
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: you're you're wanting to really understand, well, what's the other
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: side of the story. And I don't expect Jernam to
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: believe everything that I'm saying either, Like it's going to
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: be on him to take, you know what, what resonates
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: with him and then come to his own conclusion. And
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: that's what everybody should be doing. So I you know,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I always say the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: same thing. The day we all agree is the day
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: we could all be wrong. And I'm never gonna never
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: gonna agree with you know, I'm not gonna I'm not
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: the goal along to get along kind of guy. I
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: like the confrontation. I enjoy it. So open invitation to
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: all you keyboard warriors in the comment section, put your
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: big boy panties on and come on, you can hit
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: me up at gym at climate Viewer dot com. I'm
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: gladly to baitsche y'all. Come on, you can make a
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: PowerPoint presentation, you can bring a whole club of PhDs
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: with you, and I will gently spank your ass right
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: there alive on the Internet, because I know what the
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: hell I'm talking about. I've done my research, and if
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: you do prove me wrong, I will congratulate you and
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: I will go correct the record and admit I'm wrong
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: in front of the entire Internet, because you know what,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: that's what activists do, not infotainers. Infotainers block your ass.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: They do not allow you to speak. So I my
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: hat's off to you for having the conversation, because most
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: people don't even want to have and especially when they
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: know that it's not popular. Because I know you that
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: you read the comments, I know you got the hate mail,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: and yet here we are doing this again. So either
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: you're glutton for punishment or you're honestly curious. I got
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: a great life. I don't need this shit. I could
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: walk away from this at any moment and go, you know,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: play in the woods with my kids, go camping, and
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: you know we'd all be happier for it. But at
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, until I have a cacophony
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: of people resonating the same material and teaching people that
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: this is a problem that needs to be dealt with,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: it's only going to get worse. The number of lights
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: per year goes up every single year, and we'll only
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: continue to the number of clouds they make will only
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: go up every single year and will continue to. I
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: don't want my grandchildren growing up in a world where
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: geo engineers legalized the thing and did the thing because
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: a bunch of people were so busy bitching about kimtrails
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: that they not only did nothing about aviation pollution, making
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: serious clouds and blocking out sunlight on a daily basis
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: and ruining the view for everybody, but in addition to that,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: they provided a cover for the airline industry and the
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: actual geo engineers who are trying to legalize it and
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: deploy it right now, like startus Labs. That is unacceptable.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Well, on that note, Jim Lee, one last time, how
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: can I follow your work?
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Everything I have is at connect dot climate viewer dot com.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: You can join my substat I can join my Telegram chat.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: My socials are on there. I'm usually at climate Viewer
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: on all the things, so that's uh, YouTube rumble x
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: is where I'm most If you want to argue with me,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: come over to x dot com slash climate Viewer. Just
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: give me a follow and then start complaining. And I
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: you know, I pick up the phone regularly on my
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: lunch break and just have at people kind of like
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: Trump on my toilet. And other than that, you know,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: I have I have three or three to five websites,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: but all of them are linked there climate viewer dot com,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: climviewer dot org, whether modificationistory dot com, and most recently
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: chemtrel Facts. Forget all that and just go to connect
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: dot climateviewer dot com. And that's my link tree to
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: all my things. And if you appreciate the work I'm doing,
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• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: really care. I want you know, all the money goes to,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: you know, trying to you know, build a better podcast,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: build a better mouse trap, and keep working on my
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  Speaker 1: Jiminy, thank you for joining me in the trenches.
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  Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure. Big GERM