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DID SOMEONE SAY BISBEE MAYORIAL ELECTION? Gretchen Bonaduce · Inside The Moms Club

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  Speaker 1: Hi, Welcome to Inside the Mom's Club, where being a
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Mom's Club. I'm your host, Monica Samuels,
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  Speaker 1: and I am here with my co host, Julie Orchid.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, last time I turned to this to the
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  Speaker 1: usual seat, it was empty because you was gallivanting around
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  Speaker 1: the world. Didn't bring me a souvenir. And as I
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  Speaker 1: mentioned in my other show, that was going to be
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  Speaker 1: a point of whether she got to stay. But you
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  Speaker 1: know what, here she is. So we're so happy to
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  Speaker 1: have you back.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thrilled to be here.
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  Speaker 1: Now tell everybody where you went.
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  Speaker 2: Well, listen, I had my date with my children and
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  Speaker 2: the Olympics and it was epic. I mean it was electric.
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  Speaker 2: The vibe was so fun and I didn't know what
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  Speaker 2: to expect. I mean, everybody tries to put the fear
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  Speaker 2: of God in you that you know that's not a
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  Speaker 2: good event. You shouldn't do that. I did all that
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  Speaker 2: you did? She does, I warned her, Yeah, so I
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't do it that it wouldn't be safe. It was
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  Speaker 2: completely safe. I've never seen so many police. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: we saw Los Angeles Police Department there. Yeah, so it
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  Speaker 2: was they were getting ready, they're getting ready, they're they're
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  Speaker 2: they're in training. So anyway, it was really fun to
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  Speaker 2: be in a place where you got to see so
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  Speaker 2: many dreams come true literally right before your eyes, regular
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  Speaker 2: people doing extraordinary things, and you cried. It didn't matter
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  Speaker 2: what country you were watching or where you were. It
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  Speaker 2: was incredible.
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  Speaker 1: It looked like a lot of fun. Now I have
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  Speaker 1: a theory. I'd like to throw this out to the
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  Speaker 1: Olympic Committee. I feel very strongly about this with the
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  Speaker 1: Moms Club. I feel like when they give the gold medal,
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  Speaker 1: that the mother should be standing at the podium and
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  Speaker 1: perhaps even receive a medal herself. I mean, because, let's
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  Speaker 1: face it, athletes who got you there, that's who drove
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  Speaker 1: you to the pool. I mean who.
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  Speaker 2: But for four am, Like these practices are from when
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  Speaker 2: they're really young, so you're doing it all. I agree
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  Speaker 2: with what you have to say about being on the podium,
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  Speaker 2: but I also think the silver and the bronze oh though, oh.
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  Speaker 1: Those people too. Yeah, well, have a separate, separate medal
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  Speaker 1: ceremony for the parents, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Because we're knowing it all.
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  Speaker 1: Let's face it, you didn't drive yourself over to gymnastics
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  Speaker 1: five years old.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly did you think you were needed to be someone
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  Speaker 2: in the Olympics growing up?
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  Speaker 3: I did?
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  Speaker 1: I did.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 1: See, here's how my Olympic experience always worked. I was
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  Speaker 1: a kid. I would watch the Olympics and that I'd
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  Speaker 1: be inspired, and I thought, how can I get in
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  Speaker 1: the Olympics, And I would go outside, I would do
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff, and then, well, my Olympic dreams
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  Speaker 1: always died when they when the Olympic flame went out,
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  Speaker 1: that was kind of the end of it, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I listen, I thought I was Nadia Komen each there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people that I was with, like my children,
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  Speaker 2: why are you wearing that sweatshirt? I was like, you
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  Speaker 2: just don't understand. Greatest movie ever, greatest story. And then
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  Speaker 2: I picked up I'm very lely Retten, so clearly I
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  Speaker 2: missed my gymnastics calling. But you know I was a dreamer.
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  Speaker 1: I did not miss my gymnastics calling. I cannot do
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  Speaker 1: a I have never been able to do a summersault.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think the whole point is about dreams and
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  Speaker 2: following dreams and believing that you can.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now I did have one bad experience, of course,
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  Speaker 1: when I call the shot put in seventh.
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  Speaker 2: Grade, Monica has a weird flat Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I have a very weird story. Yeah, I have a
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  Speaker 1: flat finger because I caught a shot put. It is
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  Speaker 1: not recommended if you have a child in track and field.
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  Speaker 1: Make sure that they know that that's not you don't
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  Speaker 1: catch it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So but yeah, no weird story.
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  Speaker 1: When you have your dreams and you you know, like
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  Speaker 1: when you go for it, when you go for something,
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  Speaker 1: I just think that's so cool. Like people have, because
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  Speaker 1: of various things I've done in my life, have said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, why don't you run for office?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I would vote for you.
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  Speaker 1: Well you know what, I've always said, Nah, that's too
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  Speaker 1: there's too much stress involved in it. Right, It's just
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  Speaker 1: like people are mean and your family gets involved. It's
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  Speaker 1: just not good. But you know what, now that I've
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  Speaker 1: on the flip side. I look at like some of
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  Speaker 1: the candidates out there these days, and I think I
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  Speaker 1: could do that. And I'm not making an announcement here,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm considering it. I'm going to form an exploratory committee, okay.
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  Speaker 1: For I can't decide whether to call it Monica twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight or Mom twenty twenty eight, because wouldn't people
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  Speaker 1: want to vote for their mom? Well?
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  Speaker 2: Most people, most people. I can say that there are
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  Speaker 2: some kids out there will be like, no.
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  Speaker 1: That might not be a good thing. Yeah, you might
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  Speaker 1: not want to put that on your bumper, sticker on
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  Speaker 1: your carpet.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm yeah thinking about that, Okay. But what I
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  Speaker 1: admire people who don't only think about.
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  Speaker 2: It, Yeah, who like take your fear out and just
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  Speaker 2: do it exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And so today we have one such person. We are
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  Speaker 1: so so excited. She is an American TV personality, author
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  Speaker 1: and musician. She is best known for her wrote her
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  Speaker 1: time on reality TV breaking Bona Ducci if you remember
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  Speaker 1: that show on VH one with her ex husband Danny Bonaducci,
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  Speaker 1: with whom she has two children. But her latest claim
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  Speaker 1: to fame is she ran for mayor of Bisbee, Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome mayoral former and possibly future mayoral candidate Retch
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  Speaker 1: and Bonaducci. Welcome to Oh.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for coming. I am so excited because I
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  Speaker 1: just admire the fact that you jumped in there and
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  Speaker 1: you did something that we all kind of say, well,
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  Speaker 1: I should I don't like how that's working, I should run.
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  Speaker 1: We can all run for office nobody.
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  Speaker 3: That's literally what I did. I really didn't put a
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  Speaker 3: lot of thought process into it. I saw same as
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  Speaker 3: you people going on, I'm going to run. I'm like, look,
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  Speaker 3: they're qualified, so am I. So I jumped in really
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  Speaker 3: without thinking that much about it other than the fact
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  Speaker 3: that I really feel like our town needed a lot
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  Speaker 3: of change, and so I just went for it. And
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  Speaker 3: it was such an experience. I definitely see now how
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  Speaker 3: a lot of great people don't went around because you
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  Speaker 3: do have to put up with a lot of crap.
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  Speaker 3: Not gonna lie, just be prepared for that.
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  Speaker 1: That's the negative side. Well, let's talk about how you
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  Speaker 1: did it, because for those out there who all over
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  Speaker 1: America who think well maybe I should run, let's let's
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  Speaker 1: dig deep into this. So how did you how did
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  Speaker 1: you you're not from Bisbee, Arizona. And that's always a like.
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  Speaker 1: I have a place in Florida, and every once in
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  Speaker 1: a while I think, oh, maybe I'll run for Congress here,
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  Speaker 1: But I only visit there to go to the beach,
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  Speaker 1: and I have a feeling that would be thrown up
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  Speaker 1: against me later on. So tell us then it would
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  Speaker 1: have it would So tell us how you came to
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  Speaker 1: be in Bisbee, Arizona, which, by the way, I looked
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  Speaker 1: it up, it's south of Tucson and eleven miles from
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  Speaker 1: the Mexican American border.
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  Speaker 3: Is that right, That is correct? Yeah, one of my
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  Speaker 3: houses two miles from the border.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow.
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  Speaker 3: So I see a lot of border patrol down there,
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  Speaker 3: pulling people down of the bushes quite well. But I
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  Speaker 3: love this town. It is the cutest little town. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: It was formed in like the eighteen hundreds, late eighteen hundreds,
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  Speaker 3: and it's so interesting because at the turn of the
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  Speaker 3: century there were three stock exchanges in the United States,
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  Speaker 3: New York, San Francisco, and Bisbee. If you can believe that,
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  Speaker 3: we had so many people. Here was a huge mining town.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: And so I found the town because I really wanted
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  Speaker 3: to leave La. I just didn't like the hustle and bustle,
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  Speaker 3: and I didn't really go anywhere because you just kind
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  Speaker 3: of stay in your neighborhood. It takes so long to
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  Speaker 3: get anywhere else. So I decided to google mansions for
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  Speaker 3: sale and this house came up, and I just fell
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  Speaker 3: in love with it.
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  Speaker 2: It's beautiful. Is are you in one of them right now?
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  Speaker 3: That? Yeah? It's called Greenway Manor is the house that
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  Speaker 3: I primarily live in. It was built in nineteen oh
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  Speaker 3: eight by the mining company, and the head of the
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  Speaker 3: mining company lived here and then the supervisors the people
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  Speaker 3: had apartments. It's like a ten thousand square foot house,
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  Speaker 3: ten bedrooms, eleven bathrooms. I was doing a lot of
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  Speaker 3: the cleaning when I first moved here five years ago,
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  Speaker 3: so thank god I've been able to hire some more
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  Speaker 3: people for help. But it just sort of lent itself
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  Speaker 3: to doing Airbnb because I had seven bedrooms, all with
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  Speaker 3: little kitchen utes and private bathrooms. So I turned it
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  Speaker 3: into this rock and roll airbnb, so all the rooms
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  Speaker 3: are themed. I have a Beatles room, David.
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  Speaker 1: Bowie room, and m that's fun.
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  Speaker 3: So it's super cool.
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  Speaker 2: What I have to say, I have a two part
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  Speaker 2: question for you, What was your breaking point of leaving La.
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  Speaker 2: There must have been the straw that broke the Camel's
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  Speaker 2: back and then how busy is the bed and Breakfast
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  Speaker 2: in Arizona.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I ended up wanting to leave La. First all,
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  Speaker 3: I never wanted to go to La. Shan's husband and
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  Speaker 3: I were living in New York City and I loved
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  Speaker 3: it there. I was really not happy when they said
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  Speaker 3: we had to go to LA. But at the time,
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  Speaker 3: he was in radio and when you get a job,
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  Speaker 3: they just sent you where you have to go, and
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  Speaker 3: you have to go. So I went there, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: there was upside for sure. It's so beautiful every day,
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  Speaker 3: so my kids could play outside. But I do think
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  Speaker 3: raising your kids in LA is not the best idea,
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  Speaker 3: especially if you have a famous parent. It's just kind
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  Speaker 3: of a weird universe to put your kids in. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I really wanted to lead. And there wasn't really a
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  Speaker 3: straw that broke the camel's back. I just never wanted
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  Speaker 3: to be there in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But you know the great thing about it was
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  Speaker 3: I lived it like everyone wants to. You know, everyone
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  Speaker 3: goes to La to be in show business. I was
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  Speaker 3: at the Grammys that Emmy's the Red Carpet. So I
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  Speaker 3: feel super fortunate that I lived in the La dream
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  Speaker 3: that everybody wishes they could. But I don't think it's
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  Speaker 3: a great place for kids. I really wish we would
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  Speaker 3: have lived somewhere else and commuted back and forth into LA.
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  Speaker 3: I think that would have been better for my kids.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's some value.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Now do you have any other connection
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  Speaker 1: with Arizona other than you just found this place in Arizona?
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever lived there before?
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  Speaker 3: Or I have? Actually, Danny and I got married here.
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  Speaker 3: He was a DJ in Phoenix when we met, and
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  Speaker 3: my parents were living here as well. I grew up
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  Speaker 3: I'm from Chicago, but I grew up in Tennessee. Like
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  Speaker 3: my high school years, I lived in Chattanooga. They were
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  Speaker 3: in high school there. So that was really hard to
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  Speaker 3: move from the North to the South. Uh. And in
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  Speaker 3: high school on top of it, you know, being very
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  Speaker 3: awkward and not knowing anybody, and you know, my accent
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  Speaker 3: was weird. They'd all just be going, hey, you want
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  Speaker 3: something pop everyone. I'm like, yeah, so you picked up
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  Speaker 3: a southern accent really fast, you know, I started saying, y'all, y'all,
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  Speaker 3: and and you know, I had guys come up to
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  Speaker 3: me and go, my mama would die. I brought home
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  Speaker 3: a Yankee, but I'd sure a lot to take you out,
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  Speaker 3: So you know that was kind of uncomfortable. Yeah, I would, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, I've lived all over I lived in Germany.
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  Speaker 3: I lived in San Francisco, which was fortunate for me
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  Speaker 3: because we moved so much that I really didn't have
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  Speaker 3: any connection, you know, so it was kind of easy
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  Speaker 3: for me to pick up and move.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I moved a lot too, so I am familiar.
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  Speaker 2: You just keep going and you pick up where you are,
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  Speaker 2: you learn what's in the town, and you know, make
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  Speaker 2: new friends and go.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that if you're outgoing, it's a lot easier.
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  Speaker 3: Like my brother wasn't and I think it was a
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  Speaker 3: lot harder on him. But I'm so friendly. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that was one of the criticisms my ex husband always
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  Speaker 3: said about you like everyone. It's not a compliment because
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  Speaker 3: you and I can't help, but I do like it's
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  Speaker 3: sort of toxic.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think I've heard that from my ex husband too,
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  Speaker 2: So don't worry.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with liking.
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  Speaker 2: You out going, don't talk to you, match, don't laugh
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  Speaker 2: too loud.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's not but yeah, when you mentioned Phoenix. So
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  Speaker 1: I worked and I interned for a congressman from Scottsdale, Arizona,
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  Speaker 1: and that's where I learned a lot. Eldon Rudd, he's
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  Speaker 1: sure he's no longer with us, But the funny thing
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  Speaker 1: I learned about that's when I first learned about politics
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  Speaker 1: and kind of what you were getting into. They had
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  Speaker 1: me run the reception desk one day and they told me, Monica,
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  Speaker 1: whatever you do, the congressman is not here. He is
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  Speaker 1: not here, no matter who comes in here. Well, his
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  Speaker 1: office was like to the left, right by the door,
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  Speaker 1: So I said, okay, okay. So this little cute family
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  Speaker 1: from Scottsdale comes in, they want to meet their congressman.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sorry, he's not here. He's not here.
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  Speaker 1: Just then he walks out the door, shakes all their hands,
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  Speaker 1: and walks out. And then it became clear to me
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  Speaker 1: they didn't know who he was, which just goes to
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  Speaker 1: show we don't all know you know, who's who's running things.
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  Speaker 1: So now you go to.
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  Speaker 2: Bisbee, yep, and your five years hell did that.
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  Speaker 1: So how big is Bisbee? How many people this question?
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  Speaker 3: Five thousand? So it's the tiny little town and every
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  Speaker 3: one knows everything about everyone. So that's one of the
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  Speaker 3: downsides of living in a down in a small town,
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  Speaker 3: but more so because there's like a kernel of truths
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  Speaker 3: to everything, but most of it's not true. So you're
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  Speaker 3: dealing with that a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So what were some of the issues that
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  Speaker 2: you saw that you talked about. You're like, I had
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  Speaker 2: a lot of issues that I thought needed to be fixed.
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  Speaker 2: We're dying to know about, you know, this town and
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  Speaker 2: the people there, and give us some tidbits on that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, first of all, when I decided to run,
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  Speaker 3: I had to go to city hall and you had
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  Speaker 3: to get signatures, and you had to have a certain
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  Speaker 3: amount of signatures to qualify. So that was the first
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  Speaker 3: step I had to do, and I was easily able
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  Speaker 3: to do that, except for I made a mistake. That's
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  Speaker 3: the one thing that was so great about me running
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  Speaker 3: this time. I kind of learned all the mistakes and
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  Speaker 3: if I decide to run again, I won't make them again.
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  Speaker 3: But I thought that if I was getting the signatures,
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  Speaker 3: that I didn't need to sign the back of my
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  Speaker 3: petitions only if I was having other people do it. Well,
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  Speaker 3: that turned out not to be true. I needed to
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  Speaker 3: sign back, which I did not, lesson learned, so then
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  Speaker 3: I oh so, then some of the people in the
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  Speaker 3: city council tried to get me out by suing me
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  Speaker 3: and saying she didn't sign so she can't run. So
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  Speaker 3: I hired an attorney and fought in. And I guess
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  Speaker 3: it's a common mistake to make that. A lot of
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  Speaker 3: times people just forget it's it's not a big deal,
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  Speaker 3: but when they don't really want you to run, they'll
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  Speaker 3: look for any way to get you out. So just
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  Speaker 3: be prepared for that if you decide.
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  Speaker 1: That is true. Yeah, that's common. I'm also an attorney,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm well, I'm very familiar with that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, So luckily we had.
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  Speaker 3: A great attorney and the judge decided in my favor,
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  Speaker 3: so I was able to move forward. Douse me. I
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  Speaker 3: have really bad allergies. So oh.
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  Speaker 1: So, tell you talked about the people. Five thousand people,
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  Speaker 1: there's like everybody knows everybody's business, so what's the scuttle?
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  Speaker 1: But they're in Bisbee, like who are There's like little
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  Speaker 1: cliques or you said the city council. Are they all
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  Speaker 1: in a little like they're all kind of you know,
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  Speaker 1: related to each other, or what's the story there? What
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  Speaker 1: give us some color of what Bisbee's like.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Jablin, there's little cliques. It's a very artistic community.
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  Speaker 3: We have a lot of musicians, a lot of artists.
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  Speaker 3: It's just the most charming little town. If you look
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  Speaker 3: it up, you will see and so I call it
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  Speaker 3: the Island of thisbit Toys. There's a lot of weirdos
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  Speaker 3: here and that's one of the things I love love
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: about the town. And also it's a tourist town, but
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of retirees, so you're kind of fighting
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: against that because they get their pension and their social security,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: so the last thing they want is more tourists to
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: come in or more people with money to come in
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: and drive prices up. But unfortunately, we are a tourist town.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: So that's one of the things. As a businesswoman, I
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: employ sixteen people in this town, and if we don't
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: have tourists, I don't have jobs for those people. So
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: I am constantly promoting the town as much as I
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: can to try to bring in more people. My airbnbs
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: do really well, Like I figured out the niche for
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: the Rock and Roll Airbnb, and then I have a
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: house at the airport where you can fly your plane
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: in and pull it into the house. There's a hang.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: So I did pretty well. But they also started making
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: it really hard to have airbnbs, which you know in
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: California they were doing that too, so true. So now
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: they're much stricter, like we have to have the fire
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: marshal has to come in once a year, and someone
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: has to come through once a year and go through
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: all your fire extinguishers, and you have to pay a fee,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: and so there's a lot more to it than there
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: used to be, which I think is a good thing.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: You know, we just had a fire in old Bisbee
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: and two of the old buildings burned down, and so
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: it's super important because his buildings are old, that we
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: have the fire department totally on top of it constantly.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Now I saw you in I saw you
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: in a candidate forum and it saw the mayor. He
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: looks like he's I don't know, older retired. Bisbee is
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: one of those.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a fireman, interestingly enough, and I know
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I Dan for the Legislature in Utah. A couple of
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: times ran here. Once didn't win and then he won,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: and he won. This time, I came in second and
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: he won, but he was the incumbent. I also was
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: running as an independent and he was running Democratics, so
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: he had all that force behind him in a lot
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: of donations. But I don't know. For me, I like
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: to be able to vote however, I think is the
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: best way without having from a party.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: So was Wanda the Republican? Who how did that shake it?
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I saw Wanda was the other candidate.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: On one is a Democrat.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Oh so there are no Republicans.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: And I ran as an independent.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which makes sense.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, I just want to vote the way I
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: want to, you know. I don't want to have someone go, well,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: the whole party is voting this way, you know, so
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: you have to vote that way. I'd rather not have
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: that pressure. But it does make it a little more
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: difficult when you don't have a party behind you and
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: extra money. Like I didn't want to take money from
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: anybody because I didn't know if I could win, So I,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: you know, sort of put my own into it for
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: this time, and if I decide to run next time.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I might take money, but we'll see. Like, I'm not sure.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Well, it's impressive that you were you came in second,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I have to say. I mean, it's tough to knock
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: off the incumbent. You're right, the incumbancy they kind of
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: control everything at that point. So that's rough.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I have the support of the ex mayor, the
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: X City attorney, A lot of people were supporting me,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: a lot of business people. Most of the business people
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: voted for me, so because they get it, you know,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: I think, guy, we had five businesses closed in July
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: because they couldn't make it. There weren't enough tourists.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if it wasn't for people like you, Gretchen, that
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: town made just slowly. Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: So you're right, exactly what you should.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: I'm going to keep pushing and pushing as much as
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: by camp. But you know, I am up against the
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: people that don't want more tourists here. But I think
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: in the long run, things keep going this way and
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: more businesses go under, next time, I'd have even more support.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: You know, they'll get it that it is what we are.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I know, you don't want to be a tourist town,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: people that have been here for twenty years. And it's
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: strange because the people that have been here for generations.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: When the Mind closed in the seventies, it almost did
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: turn into a ghost town. And so they get it
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: that the tourists are the people that are keeping it alive.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: So you know, I'm just going to keep pushing for that,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: and I don't want to see that happen in my town.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I love it so much. And yeah, people and the artists,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: and you know, the more people that come in, we
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: can let the musicians play more and there's more tours
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: to tip them so they make better money. And you know,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: a lot of them can't live here in Bisbee anymore
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: because they can't afford the rent. So that's one thing
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: I try to do is have three of my places
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: for locals and try to keep you know, keep it
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: reasonable for them, and then rent the rest out to
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: the tourists.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's that's great. Well, you're right, because basically,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: if you're not a tourist town, do you still want
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: to be a town because you're not going to be
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: a rent You're right, it'll be a ghost town.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: So what are your kids think? Of you up and
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: moving to Bisbee. I mean, what did they? I mean,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: we all have kids here, so we're interested in knowing
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: what their thoughts are on your you know, gusto to
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: get up and do this.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Well, my daughter lives in Europe, and I knew she
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: would never come here because she's super gothy and she
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: doesn't like the fun, so I probably not see hurt
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: here very often. She's married to a professor in Brighton University,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, and lives over there and she loves it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: And my son came here because I said, I'd rather
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: you move here and learn how to drive than try
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: to learn in Los Angeles. So yeah, so he came here,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: learned how to drive, left and lived in Denver. He's
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: a chef, so he was working at Red Rocks in Denver,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: and then went to Thailand for a while to study
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Ui Thai. And now he's back here as a chef
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: and he's going to be working in a vineyard in Sonoita,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: which is about an hour from here. So so I
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: mean he's still They're both proud of me. You know
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: that I make decisions and just make it happen. And
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: you know, I literally had no real I mean, I've
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: waited tables, so I've had restaurant experience. I also own
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: two restaurants here on top of the airbnbs. Oh my god,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: but I really didn't have I'm the worst cleaner in
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: the world. Honestly, I'm really, really, really bad. So I
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: had to learn to be great. And my cleaning ratings
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: are really good, so so that was nice. But yeah,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: I think they're proud of me that, you know, I
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: am self made. You know, I moved here, didn't know
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: much of anything, opened to airbnbs, and now my restaurant
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: expanded to another town. So I just love to work,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I really do. But it is starting to catch up
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: to me. I'll be fifty nine in a couple of weeks,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: and I try to keep up, but I'm like, darn,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: I can't keep doing this. Ohopping every day.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be fifty nine. You don't even dare thirty nine? Well,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the show should be more about how you look so great?
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: We need to have a fault.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: It's a group effort now. Luckily, going over the border
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: into Mexico is really inexpensive to have botos. There's a
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: tip my friends here and we caravan down, we walk
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: over we go boom boom boom or or whatever. Then
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: we walk back over the border.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Listen, I feel a road trip coming on for many reasons.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: We can take a plane, we can go to Mexico
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: for botox.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I want to check out Bisbee, That's that's for sure.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: So I have a quick question because I my daughter
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: majored in Spanish. Are you bilingual?
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: I am not embarrassingly enough. I am not enough. That
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: is something I have to work on for sure.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, I was just curious. You live so close and
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: you say you're walking into Mexico. I'm wondering, you know
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: how you know communication sometimes?
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: You know, I usually have someone with me that can
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: speak Spanish, so I haven't had a problem yet. Yeah.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of dentists down there that
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: are also inexpensive. So a lot of Americans go over
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: the border. We go into Agua Creete, but there's also
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Naco Mexico. Oh and yeah, it's like a quarter to
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: a third of the price that it is the United
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: States or anything, Like fifty units of botox in Mexico
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: is two hundred and fifty dollars. That'd be like eight hundred.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: That chip is going to happen sooner than patr Monica.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a spot.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: I'm having to be free down because I had lumineers
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: many years ago. I'm only supposed to last a certain
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: amount of time. I think when I did it fifteen
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: sixteen years ago, I paid like ten it's like thirty
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: eight hundred for all goodness.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Oh you guys, hurry come back. Wow, I get accused
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: about you know. Georgia's like, you just need to learn
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Spanish and quit using my skills. So I just had
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: to ask. I was like, who's helping you?
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody, but I need to learn.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I can say a few basic phrases, but uh one,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I'm just so busy. It's so hard for me to
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: go even go anywhere because you know, the four businesses,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: six businesses, really with the four air beating, it's hard
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: for me to give control over to somebody else.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: So yeah, my question of like what is it a
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: day in the life of you? But I think I
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: have a pretty good idea of how busy you are
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: if you have four businesses, Yeah.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: You are on the Spanish front. I totally I studied Spanish.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I never could speak it no matter what I did
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and recently we had somebody that one of the people
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: that works was helping us. He was Spanish speaking, and
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: he went on this other man's property that's our neighbor,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: and the guy's not particularly friendly. So I was trying
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: to explain to the guy how he shouldn't be over
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: there and you should. This is a podcast, so I
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: can't demonstrate all of.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: The Yeah, we don't visuals I did.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: It's dangerous over there. Yeah, so that's kind of hard
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: for we all have. Well, I want to hear about
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: your I'm gonna go back to your campaign really quick
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: because I heard you had a stand up comic. Was
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: your campaign manager? Is that true? I mean, h helped
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: you with this. Besides the other business people in Bisbee.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Like who I did?
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: I somehow convinced aug Stanhope, who is a brilliant comic,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: to help me along. At first, we were going to
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: run against each other, but he felt like that would
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: upset the community too much, so he didn't want to
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: go down that road yet I was willing to do it,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: so he helped me out a lot. We had so
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: much fun. He came up with absurd ideas, which because
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: it's such a weird town. I thought possibly they could work,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: you know, well, being.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: A weird town. Who is Tamala Turtle?
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Is this a tamil is our?
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: I colored the Bisbee b York like every day she's
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: in the craziest get ups. She's a performance artist, a singer.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: She's brilliant. Actually she's very very good. So they were
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: helping me out. Like the day we went to put
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: up my campaign signs. Oh that's the other thing I learned.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: You have to put paid for an approved buy. I
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: didn't do that on my find The next day I
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: had to go and get a bunch of printed up
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: and then go slap them on up on this stick.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: That was the second mistake I made.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I'm taking you I'm aware of all these because yeah,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that's how you get people out of the race, that's
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and they were looking that one of these
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: we were going to report me for we're a dark
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Sky's community. But yet I own Airbnbs, so I have
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: to make sure my guests are sitting, so I have
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: lights and they're supposed to be facing down, so you know,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: because you can see the Milky Way from here. Sure
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: it's so beautiful, but I cannot help it if my
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: guests turn it back up. I was gonna get in
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: trouble for that, so you know they were looking to
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: get me in trouble.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Any Yeah, No, that's that's a common Yeah, that's a
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: part of American politics.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I talk about how Arizona's got its own little Marfa.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: We're from Texas, and I feel like that's what she's described. Well,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the milky way, the music if you've ever heard of,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: very similar thing is we don't have what do you have?
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: A prodest o there? We don't have, but I think
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: you got us on that.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I bet you could get a produ of there, just
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: like the one that store.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: They could do you anyway.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask. I'm gonna ask or anyone.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: The way you're the way you're you know, doing your
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: business in that part of the Arizona I why why
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: be mayor? That's kind of a tougher job. I could
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: see you and given a come of the candidates governor, senator,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, Arizona, I don't think that's I think
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: that's doable, not at all.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Here's what I have to do. First. I'm on the
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: museum board, I'm on the committee for the Mariacci festival.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: But all that, you guys should come down. We have
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: the Mariacci Festival coming up on November second, and we
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: were able to get Did you guys watch American Idol
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: at all? Yeah, there was the candidate McKenna Brianholds and
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: her mother was from uh Bisbee. Well, I don't think
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: she's from here, but that was at the story on
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: American Idol. Well, I was able me and my people
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: in the committee were able to get her to come
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: for the Mariashi first of all November second, So she's
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: going to be our special guag. But we're kind of
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: a town of cosplays. We have crazy parties. We have
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Alice and Bisbee Land where everybody comes dressed up like
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Alice in Wonderland. I throw Elvis and Bisbee Land, so
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: you have to come dresses Alabash. My birthday party in
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: two weeks is Bridgerton. Uh. We have, I mean just
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: so many crazy parties.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Well, Bisbie sounds like a ton of fun on top
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: of everything. And we have some women who may want
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: to come visit your airbnb and and party there with you.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: And they are our Zoomer moms and today's special future
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Zoomer daughters so welcome Zoomer moms and Zoomer daughters. You
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: welcome to the Mom's One. Well, ladies, I'm just gonna
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: introduce you and tell us a little bit about yourself
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: and do you have a question for Gretchen. Let's start
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: with Cricket. Welcome to the Mom's Club.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Hi, Cricket, Hi, I had to unmute. Thanks. That what
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: a wonderful interview. You guys do a great show.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: I'm retired, semi retired, living in Los Angeles, out of
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: the entertainment business as well, and have three children, one
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: by birth and two by marriage. And what always occurred
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: to me you talked about moving them out of Los
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: Angeles to raise your children, and we lived in Malibu
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: at the time, and there was a lot of influence
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: from celebrity out there, So I wondered, what were the
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: benefits there? Do you think what are the lessons that
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: they learned by moving them out of LA I.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Think that it was just really hard for my children.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: And then on top of it, you also add in
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: social media. You know, when you grew up, we didn't
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: have that. You didn't have that constant pressure to compare
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: ourselves to people, and so on top of being a
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: child of a celebrity. I mean, look at all the
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: smart ones moved out. Julia Roberts, you know, she moved
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: to New Mexico, Sandra Bullock. You know, if you knew
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: the temptations and the pressure the smart people, I think
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: when and just kind of commuted back and forth, and
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I just feel like for kids in the show business people,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying people just live
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: there and just live there and aren't in the business.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I think it's a fine place to grow up, but
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I do think the pressures of having a famous parent
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: and living in LA with the trappings and all that,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: it's just I think difficult for them to grow up
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: and have a normal experience. You know, it's just not normal.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Not as much community.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeanette, welcome to the Mom's Club. Tell us a
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: little bit about yourself, and do you have a question
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: for Gretchen?
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Can you hear me?
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: We can.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Hi. I'm Janine. It's such a pleasure to meet you.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I do have a question. My husband and I host.
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: Monthly dinners in our home, so we've dabbled, I guess
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: in the hospitality line for a bid and so we've
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: had high moments and some that were a challenge and
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: were learning experiences. And since you've been in Arizona, you
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: have several businesses that you're juggling, and I assume you
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: were not an airbnb owner in the past or.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: A restaurant owner.
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: So as far as learning curve some of the big
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: lessons that you learned, can you pinpoint a couple that
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: you could share for sure?
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Well, I was a restaurant owner in Los Angeles for
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: a brief period of time. My husband and I invested
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: into a restaurant and the guy just ran it into
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: the ground. So that's the first thing I learned is
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: you have to be so hands on on a restaurant.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: And the other thing is the restaurant that we bought
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: had been here thirty years, and we bought it during
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: COVID because we knew it had been established, it had
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: been here for thirty years, and the food was so delicious,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: like we do homemade pies, keish sandwiches, salads, homemade cookies,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: The menus incredible and it's very simple, and so we
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: just took it over because we knew we couldn't lose.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: And the greatest thing we learned. Wow, we didn't learn.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: But the day we closed was the day they let
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: you go to full tables because remembers during COVID they
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: spaced everything out so you could only I am half
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: your capacity, and so I knew it was the right choice.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: The day we open, when they go, hey, you can
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: put all your tables back in, I'm like, oh my god,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: get it to the attic, bring everything down. So but
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I learned you have to be super hands on, and
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: so my partner and he does all the grocery shopping. Luckily,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: we have a manager who's been there for ten years,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: so she knows it kind of runs itself. In Busbee,
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: our new establishment has been a little more difficult to
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: deal with because it's a way bigger town. There's forty
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: thousand people, so we thought we should be able to
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: easily do what we're doing in Busbee just by sheer number.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: There's a lot more people. But we have a commercial
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: kitchen there, so we have to transfer the food out there,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: and so it took us a really long time for
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: the Hell Department to sign off on that, and then
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: we had to buy like a van that was completely
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: cleaned out because I guess the person we bought it
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: from was driving the food over in her car, which
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: you're not allowed to do, which she never told us,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: So you know that's an unexpected expense. But yeah, you
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: just have to be really hands on. And I think
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: with Airbnb, as long as you keep things are really clean,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Like people get really mad when there is a toilet
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: paper in the room them and they get not happy
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: at all if there are towels, so you know, you
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: justus they do. Yeah, And you know that was in
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: the beginning because I hadn't run one. Sometimes I would
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: make that mistake where I just was doing a final
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: walkthrough and something would get by me. So that's what
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: I tell all my crew.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Now that would so be me. I'd be like, oh,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: you need toilet paper.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh I'm do you need toilet.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: You need okay, okay, hold on, Yeah, it's.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: One of the things you may forget you don't think of.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: You know. I want to just say right here, I
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: have met Jeanine. She's even been on our show before, Yes,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and I called her Jeanette, which just shows that my
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: eyesight is it's the menopausal brain, I guess. And I apologize.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Janine.
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: I know you so I'm wearing I'm shares of glasses
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: getting over surgery on my eyes, and so I completely
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: get it.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Well, I was trying to be all, you know, fashionable.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to wear glasses, but I should, so
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I apologies. Well, our next week today we have we
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: have Zoomer daughters, which is so exciting we have not
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: had before. And in this interview so far, we have
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: not mentioned much about Danny Bonaducci, who was Gretchen's ex
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: husband who was on the Partridge Family. And part of
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: the reason, I suppose is because last night we were
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: at dinner and we we talked about who we're going
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: to meet today and we mentioned it to a young
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: man who's twenty three, and he said, the what I
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: never heard of the part What. I don't even know
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: what you're talking about.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: So isn't that crazy? I know that the younger people
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: and they go, well, I've heard of the Beatles. They go,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: you've heard of the Beatles.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: They barely heard of the Brady Bunch. But we kept
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: throwing shows out to them and they're like, yeah, I
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: kind of think I know that. So I don't know
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: what kind of questions you're going to get from the
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: next generation. But our first Zoomer daughter is Julie's own daughter. Yes, Georgia.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: So Georgia, welcome to the mom's club and said, nice,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: you have a question for Gretchen.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, I do him. I'm Georgia.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: I'm super excited to be here today.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: My question for you, I have a few, but I
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: think I wanted to ask about what it was like
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: doing reality TV and if they if you were able
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: to be yourself and kind of what your reflection is
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: of that process.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, wow, that's a great question. I It was
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: a mixed blessing because the show that we shot was
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: supposed to be rock and roll dinner party and it
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: was rock stars came over. It was a pot luck,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: and it was supposed to be funny and zany. We
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: came right after the Osborne Show. I don't know if
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: you're familiar with the Osborne Show, but it was such
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: a smash hit that everyone was looking for the next
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Osborne's and so, you know, the show that we thought
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: we were going to be doing was a funny, hilarious,
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: bringing up our kids, pot luck with rock stars, but
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: it turned into a really dark show because what was
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: happening my husband and I were actually really struggling, and
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: it was actually capturing the implosion of our marriage, which
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: was not at all what we were going to be shooting,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: and another reason I would not have put my kids
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: on TV had I known that was the direction the
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: show was going to go. But I'm super proud of it.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, we were able just to help a lot
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: of people who were struggling with infidelity and drug issues
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: and anger issues and alcoholism. You know, we dealt with
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: all of that, and so it was a really dark
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: subject and so I wish that it hadn't gone that way,
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: but yet I'm kind of proud of it. I don't
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: think we would have been brave enough to do it
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: had we known that's the way it was going to go.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: But I do feel like it was probably the most
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: real TV show that was ever on because there was
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: nothing stage. And actually I'm also a really bad actress,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: so they're so reality. TV was like one time they go,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: oh my god, we didn't get you going out of
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: the building. Could you go back in and come back out?
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: So I did and they were all laughing. I'm like,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: what's so funny? They go, that is the most unnatural
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: want you've ever seen. So they never asked me, well.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna want to ask.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I wish I could, but I can just be me about.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: I'm an interject on what you just said, because I
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: think it's really important. You didn't know the show was
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: going to go take that route. But I am going
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: to say, by you bringing up talking about some of
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: those issues, you probably helped a lot of people, and
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: you gave it a lot less power by bringing it
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: to the surface and talking about it and releasing it.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: So you probably did a lot of good, you know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: with the reality TV show.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: So I did get a lot of great feedback, and
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: I know the producers were laughing at me because I
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: said from the start, I would like the show to
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: make a difference. Yeah, you know, I don't. I don't
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: want to go Remember when you said that and then
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: I I said this, let's do that again. You know,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I really didn't want any of that. And I know
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: they were like, oh, you're so cute. It's wanting to
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: make a difference on your TV show. But the mail
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: that we got after, I know we did and yeah,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: I mean I would definitely want to do another one,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: but a fun one.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Right, I mean one that doesn't make you pit sweat
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: every second that they're filming.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: It's something that's reality, but in a positive happen right
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: and a fun way.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one that I would want to put my kids
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: on again. And I even told my son, you know,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: if you want to be on this, you are welcome,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: but I need you to go in with your eyes open.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: You know, this is going to be a way more
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: fun show if I ever get one to go. But
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: you also are going to have to deal with criticism,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: and I want to make sure you know. I think
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: people that can't handle that well should not be on
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: reality shows because people are vicious.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: We well, we actually have interviewed quite a few people
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: that have done reality TV, and for some reason, we
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: keep you get the villains a lot and when they
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: could show up here because they want to, they actually
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: want to redeem them. We met one. We loved her.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: She was the nicest person. And before the show, my
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: husband watched the series, He's like, oh, she's I don't know,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: you don't want her on your show? I said, I
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: talked to her on the thunt. She was super nice.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: She's very nice. Her show is still.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Going you in ways, but I feel like when people
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: are disappointed, like I was fine. I felt the way
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: they caught me was fine. I had no issues with it.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: But you know some people feel like they get villainized
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: and uh maybe, but I also feel like, well, did
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: you do that? Did you say that? Then you did it?
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: So how can you complain?
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: That is true, but I will tell you because your
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: political career is still you know, we expect you to
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: run from mayor again. Just everything you say, they can
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: cut it in a way that and then they'll they'll
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: twist it where that's not really in all what you meant.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: But there's a huge ad that says, oh yeah, she's
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: pretty tough, she's done hate dogs and children. Oh well,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, whoa you know, so, yeah, you gotta
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: gotta be a word.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: That's true. But because I have the reality show backlash
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: experience that nothing else. Yeah, I scoff when people, Oh,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say something mean about you to busy people,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: I'm like, come at you and have an opinion.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm one hundred percent. Georgia would be like, mom
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: zero reality TV got it.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: My children have already told me that's non things, not
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: an option. Yeah.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Well, and my daughter would not ever be on a
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: show again.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Under any so I can understand.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't even ask her because they don't feel like
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: she felt it was positive for her, and I felt
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: bad about that. Yes, that's understandable, bad that I, you know,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: put her in that position. And I even said to her, well,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: you have a really good point. Maybe you should go
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: to Screen Actors Guild and talk to them about people
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: when they're young being on TV and not really being
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: consulted about it. They were paid. I made sure that
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: when they votes were eighteen, they had a lot of
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: money because I paid them for you know, being on
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: the show. I put them on a salary. But there
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: is an argument for maybe there's some kids that shouldn't
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: do it, and maybe the parents' motivation is wrong. Well,
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: you know, so that's so I don't know the answer,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: but I do feel like my daughter had a point.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's actually a good point. And in the
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: history of Hollywood, obviously with kids actors, that's been a
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: huge thing. In fact, I think there's an organization. One
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: committed suicide years ago and another group of them started
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: an organizations to support for kids.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Well, there was that whole movement in the nineties, the
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: whole next Child started going bad, you know, with Danny
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: being in trouble, Dana Plato, who's you know, ended up dying,
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: and Todd Bridges was in trouble. I mean, there was
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: just a bunch of a lot of the Corey Haying,
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Cory Fellas. Yeah, a lot that. It's an argument definitely
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: to say it's a lot in the parenting. That you
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: don't have good parenting, you're definitely gonna have problems with
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: your kids.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, mine and kid.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: It's such an unnatural thing, you know, being a famous
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: person when the world loves you and then going home
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: to a crappy family. I don't think a kid has
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: a chance under those certain things. I think you're a well,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: you know, rounded adult.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Well, we have one more Zoomer daughter here. She is
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: not my daughter. She's actually my niece, but close enough.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: She's like a daughter because I have no daughters. Emily,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Mom's club.
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: Do you have a question.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: So my question for you is about your book and
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: what the process was of writing that and whether that
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: was a cathartic experience for you, and just if you
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: could talk a little bit about that.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's so funny that you asked that,
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: because honestly, all the things I'm doing now, I had
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: no experience. I had zero experience in writing. As a
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: matter of fact, I get criticized on my social media
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: all the time. I'm a spell stuff or I use
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: the wrong I'm really bad and accept and accept, but
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: I look, I'm too busy people, I'm riding sick, and
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: give me a break. But I decided to write it
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: myself because I was singing about bringing in a ghostwriter,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: but I'm kind of greedy and I didn't really want
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: to pay somebody. But I'm like, you know what I'm
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: going to see? So I told her a story and
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: I said write it then send it to me. And
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: it totally didn't sound like me. So I'm like, you
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: know what, I can do this, And so I just
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: was very disciplined. Every day I sat down and I wrote,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: and I didn't even try to put it in an order.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: I just tried to write story, story, story, until then
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: I could try to put it in an order. And
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: so that's kind of how I did that. And I
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: was lucky enough to find a publisher who was willing
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: to put it out and it definitely was cathartic. It
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: was a lot of work, but I'm very proud of
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: that because out of all the things I'm doing, I
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: probably had the least amount of experience, you know, to
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: write a book. And uh yeah, so I really enjoyed
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: doing it. And the book's called Surviving Agent Orange and
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: other things I learned from being thrown under the Partures family.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: But and the reason that it's called Surviving Agent Orange.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: That was our code name, my assistant and myself for Danny.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she'd be like.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Agent Orange just pulling into the driveway. So it just
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: was a funny name we called Danny.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: That's good. Nice, Well, thank you so much, Gretchen. This
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: has been so much fun.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: I've inspired by your fearlessness.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just going for it writing books.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Say that again, Gretchen, Sorry I said, or my stupidity.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Wow, no no, no.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: No, that's not true.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: You are just people have said to me, did you
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: ever worry that you were going to fail? And I
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: just don't have that ship in me. I should have
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: worried more than I did. And somehow I've been able
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: just by shared tanasa and not willing to fail to
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: pull through. And and you know, pull all the stuff off.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: So if I can aspire anyone, you know you can
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: do it. I did it.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, crazy, you are as we say here on
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: the Mom's Club. You are amazing, amazing, and so are
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: our amazing Zoomer mom. So thanks for joining us moms
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: and daughters today. Yes for being on the show. Guys.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so much fun. I appreciate all of you being
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: on here and having me and you guys have an
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: open door. We do the most strange things like I
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: have seances here, we do sance dinners and.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Oh I love that, you know.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Like I said, all the all the crazy dumb parties
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: that we love to do. Uh. And you guys are
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: welcome to come and bring some outfits and uh and
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: we'll have fun.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you. That sounds fun. So where can our
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: audience find you on social media? And how can they
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: find your make a reservation? How did Yeah?
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: I'm mind Airbnb, Verbo, booking dot com on all the
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: platforms for booking hotels. And my restaurant is the Cornicopia Cafe,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: the main ones in Bisbee and then I have the
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: new one in Sierra Vista, and I'm hoping if things
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: go well we'll roll that one out to Tombstone, which
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: is a half hour from here. And also, oh yeah yeah,
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: I'm Gretchen Chander all my social media and I would
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: love for you guys to come any time, so come visit.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: That'd be It sounds like an adventure.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I mean that is that is well, we want to
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  Speaker 1: generally wear hats because I don't really get my hair
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• 48:56
  Speaker 2: But so cute.
• 48:59
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• 49:04
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  Speaker 1: if you are stressed out. And actually the Surgeon General
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