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22 Panels Episode #207 - Mindblowing Comics · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:02
  Phil: Good morning, everybody. God, does it feel like morning. More morning than normal.
• 0:08
  Tad Eggleston: Welcome back to 22 Panels, episode 207.
• 0:14
  Tad Eggleston: For October 26, 2025, second to last, Episode of Season 5.
• 0:22
  Tad Eggleston: 4.
• 0:24
  Phil: Second to last?
• 0:26
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, 52 weeks a year.
• 0:28
  Phil: There we go. Okay, I was just making sure that's the.
• 0:31
  Tad Eggleston: 08 will be the… The end of the fourth season.
• 0:34
  Phil: All right, so, so November is kind of the, the rollover, the rollover?
• 0:40
  Tad Eggleston: Right? Right.
• 0:42
  Phil: Interesting.
• 0:43
  Phil: Yeah, so that's, that's a…
• 0:44
  Tad Eggleston: I'd have to go look up when exactly our first episode was.
• 0:49
  Phil: Okay.
• 0:50
  Tad Eggleston: Not that that's too hard, I'll have it for you in a second.
• 0:54
  Phil: It's interesting timing, because that's, right around the time of my wedding anniversary, so that's… that's a… it's a good, good,
• 1:01
  Phil: memory trick, when you can double up on your…
• 1:04
  Tad Eggleston: Or.
• 1:05
  Phil: anniversary importance.
• 1:09
  Tad Eggleston: Our first episode was…
• 1:20
  Tad Eggleston: November 13th, 2021.
• 1:24
  Phil: So it, that is, yeah, that's, that's, well…
• 1:28
  Phil: the wedding was on… no, it was on 2021, so yeah, it says that your first episode was on the day of my wedding.
• 1:35
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, wow.
• 1:36
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:39
  Phil: Holy cow.
• 1:41
  Tad Eggleston: I'm trying to… now I have to figure out when you were on the, on the podcast.
• 1:46
  Phil: I'm pretty sure I reached out to you in January, because that was around the time that,
• 1:53
  Phil: there was… there was definitely some… some other interesting stuff going on in my life that… that's, you know, I'm kind of, like, able to tie in when I started talking… talking to you, around those sorts of times. There we go!
• 2:03
  Tad Eggleston: was February 13th.
• 2:05
  Phil: There we go, alright.
• 2:07
  Phil: Isn't that fun?
• 2:09
  Tad Eggleston: It was episode 14 was your first appearance.
• 2:13
  Phil: This is like…
• 2:14
  Tad Eggleston: 22 panels. And we already had 10… 10 interviews, so, like, we were… we were well on our way to the more interviews than weekly episodes that… that we very much are now.
• 2:26
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 2:30
  Tad Eggleston: And could become more in the near future, but we're gonna not talk about that yet.
• 2:35
  Phil: More interviews. That's right.
• 2:38
  Phil: Tad is, well on his way to talking to everyone in comics at least once.
• 2:43
  Tad Eggleston: I mean?
• 2:44
  Tad Eggleston: You gotta have goals, right?
• 2:46
  Phil: Hell yeah.
• 2:48
  Tad Eggleston: So, big, big news this week.
• 2:52
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, wait, I forgot to say across the interwebs, so let's roll back, let's roll back.
• 2:57
  Phil: Dilly-doo, dilly-do, tilly-doo!
• 2:59
  Tad Eggleston: Yep, yep. Across the interwebs from me.
• 3:02
  Tad Eggleston: is Phil.
• 3:04
  Tad Eggleston: My cat did not like that noise.
• 3:07
  Tad Eggleston: He's not a spider cat.
• 3:10
  Phil: He is not. He is perturbed.
• 3:12
  Tad Eggleston: He's not a ninja cat either, bro.
• 3:16
  Phil: No. He…
• 3:17
  Tad Eggleston: We figured out, we figured out, like, like, between Kelly, me, and my friend Jeff, we did figure out.
• 3:24
  Phil: Eddie's passed as a ninja?
• 3:26
  Tad Eggleston: No, who robbed the Louvre?
• 3:29
  Phil: Oh, yeah? Who was that?
• 3:30
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Well, we saw a list…
• 3:33
  Tad Eggleston: That included, you know, George Clooney and his friends.
• 3:36
  Phil: Sure.
• 3:38
  Tad Eggleston: cats and ninjas. And we're like, see, they're… they're off here, because, I mean, as we know from reading Usagi Yojimbo.
• 3:47
  Tad Eggleston: All cats. Or all ninjas are cats.
• 3:51
  Phil: Oh. Okay.
• 3:53
  Tad Eggleston: But… but… also… like…
• 3:59
  Tad Eggleston: Cats domesticated themselves, so, I mean, really, cats tamed humans, so everybody who has a cat knows that, like, we're the pets.
• 4:10
  Phil: Oh yeah. They look at us like just big dumb cats that don't know how to hunt very well, and that's why they have to bring us things to show…
• 4:18
  Tad Eggleston: They think of us as cats, they think of us as…
• 4:27
  Phil: Food and warm.
• 4:28
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 4:29
  Phil: That's how I get looked at.
• 4:30
  Tad Eggleston: So, like…
• 4:33
  Tad Eggleston: when you look at it that way, you realize that, like, the heists that Clooney and gang do…
• 4:41
  Tad Eggleston: are the easy ones that their cat masters have planned for them. And when it's a serious heist is when the cats go in themselves. So, so it's the ninja Cat Ocean Masters that they need to be looking for.
• 4:58
  Tad Eggleston: They should go to each Clooney and his friend's house and look for the cat. They won't find it.
• 5:03
  Phil: No, of course not.
• 5:05
  Phil: Any good cat knows to hide from… They might find a non-ninja cat.
• 5:09
  Tad Eggleston: that the Ninja Cat has set up for the fall.
• 5:14
  Phil: A conveniently non-smoking gun.
• 5:17
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 5:18
  Tad Eggleston: Like, Eddie's not a ninja cat.
• 5:23
  Phil: No?
• 5:24
  Phil: I don't know! He… I can see Eddie handling some throwing stars.
• 5:28
  Tad Eggleston: Like, yeah, but… but, like… Eddie is…
• 5:36
  Tad Eggleston: not particularly good at being stealthy. Sometimes when trying to get out of the house.
• 5:43
  Tad Eggleston: But I think he uses speed and distraction more than stealth things.
• 5:47
  Phil: Okay, okay. He… that might make him the, Naruto of Cat Ninjas.
• 5:52
  Tad Eggleston: maybe… but, like, even among our cats, Kelly and I agreed that Cepi is the one that could be the leader in kind of the Kaiser Soze way?
• 6:06
  Phil: Oh, interesting.
• 6:06
  Tad Eggleston: Where it's like, it's like, you don't think it's him, because he just seems timid, and…
• 6:12
  Phil: Oh, gosh.
• 6:13
  Phil: This is reminding…
• 6:14
  Tad Eggleston: Buu…
• 6:21
  Tad Eggleston: Whereas Eddie just… he's too straightforward.
• 6:24
  Phil: Mmm, no, no, no guile. No…
• 6:26
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 6:28
  Phil: No sauce. Apparently, and I found this out through a post of Alex DeCampi's, there is, like, a wiki of Chinese street cats and the legends that people spin about them.
• 6:42
  Tad Eggleston: That is kinda cool.
• 6:43
  Phil: It's pretty… it was pretty damn cool. I need to find it again.
• 6:46
  Tad Eggleston: I also hope that it means that that's what's coming out in her next book.
• 6:50
  Phil: I mean, it might have been background research for Scrapper, you never know.
• 6:53
  Tad Eggleston: It could, it could have been, but… but, like…
• 6:56
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it depends, like, because I think she often puts the research she's doing out, so if she put it out before Scrapper came out, then yeah, it could have been the research for Scrapper. But if she's put it out since then.
• 7:15
  Phil: I don't quite remember, this was a while ago.
• 7:16
  Tad Eggleston: one, yeah.
• 7:18
  Phil: I mean, it's fruitful research, that is for sure.
• 7:21
  Tad Eggleston: That's true. So anyway, back to…
• 7:26
  Tad Eggleston: the big, big news, if you are anywhere near La Verne, Minnesota, and I know that that, that, like, isn't a lot of people, so any of you listening in Sioux Falls, any of you listening in Minneapolis, you know, Sioux Falls is, like, half an hour, Minneapolis, it's two, two and a half hours, but it's still worth it.
• 7:45
  Phil: Yeah, I think… I think this one goes out to anyone who's even curious of what might be in store.
• 7:52
  Tad Eggleston: And definitely go follow on Facebook.
• 7:55
  Phil: Heck yeah.
• 7:57
  Tad Eggleston: The Nexus Vault.
• 8:01
  Tad Eggleston: is… Tyler… our beloved Tyler's new store.
• 8:08
  Tad Eggleston: They have a Facebook page.
• 8:10
  Phil: They've already got photos.
• 8:12
  Tad Eggleston: They've got some Photoshop. Wow.
• 8:15
  Tad Eggleston: Looks like they've got some blind bags for… For.
• 8:19
  Phil: First purchase.
• 8:21
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, they have a candy machine, some toys…
• 8:26
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know if they…
• 8:28
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know if they've actually gotten to…
• 8:32
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, that's a great book, Park Bench.
• 8:34
  Phil: Oh, that's funny, I have a… I have a book by that author… Behind me, alone.
• 8:39
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 8:40
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know if they have actually reached getting their first… Lunar and PRH orders in.
• 8:51
  Phil: Hmm.
• 8:52
  Tad Eggleston: But… but they… they are… they are doing their soft open. I'm not even gonna call it the grand open.
• 8:59
  Tad Eggleston: Though I think he did. He called it the grand opening, so I guess I should call it the grand opening.
• 9:04
  Phil: Oh yeah, let's not undersell this. This is, it's a big moment.
• 9:09
  Tad Eggleston: Well, yeah, but, like, I come from a world where you do, like, soft openings to get your feet under you, and then do the big party when you got it down.
• 9:19
  Phil: Oh yeah, yeah, I understand that, too.
• 9:22
  Tad Eggleston: So, so… so, yeah.
• 9:25
  Tad Eggleston: Tyler opens his shop today.
• 9:32
  Tad Eggleston: 109 East Main Street, La Verne, Minnesota.
• 9:37
  Tad Eggleston: So our best of luck to Tyler.
• 9:42
  Tad Eggleston: And, yeah.
• 9:44
  Tad Eggleston: like I said, if you're anywhere near La Verne, Minnesota, or if you're driving west on I-90, hop off at La Verne, like…
• 9:55
  Tad Eggleston: if you're bored, and in California, and feel like looking for some Star Wars toys, hop a flight into, like…
• 10:04
  Phil: He did have some original…
• 10:06
  Tad Eggleston: Lambos, or Minneapolis.
• 10:09
  Phil: You know, do they have an online shop set up yet?
• 10:13
  Tad Eggleston: I believe so, but I'm not seeing it.
• 10:19
  Tad Eggleston: I do… I do not see it on… on their…
• 10:26
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, wait a minute, the business card says nexusfault.com, so let'.
• 10:30
  Phil: Okay.
• 10:31
  Tad Eggleston: Let's also check that out as well.
• 10:33
  Phil: www.nexusvault.com.
• 10:36
  Tad Eggleston: we, we, we were, we were just looking at their Facebook page, But they're… they're… they're…
• 10:45
  Tad Eggleston: business card that we're looking at on the Facebook page has an email address that is currently private.
• 10:53
  Phil: Dun dun dun.
• 10:54
  Tad Eggleston: Has not gone long, but it is a Squarespace… page. Okay.
• 11:00
  Phil: It's a good choice, I think. So, yeah, they will likely have…
• 11:05
  Tad Eggleston: Sales stuff.
• 11:08
  Tad Eggleston: Or, ability for online sales sooner rather than later.
• 11:13
  Tad Eggleston: Because Tyler's aware that he's out in the middle of nowhere.
• 11:17
  Tad Eggleston: So anyway, you have a, a.
• 11:21
  Phil: We do some exciting…
• 11:22
  Tad Eggleston: I'll count this as comic book move.
• 11:24
  Phil: It's comic adjacent.
• 11:26
  Tad Eggleston: news. Like…
• 11:27
  Phil: But the… there was a… there was a fun announcement from the past couple of days. We have… we have news that Charles Burns' classic, Black Hole is to be adapted by Jane,
• 11:39
  Phil: Shona Brunn, the writer-director of I Saw the TV Glow, which I've heard great things about, and that seems like just a great pairing. And also fitting, fitting for our mind-blowing episode is… is… I had forgotten to include Black Hole as a potential mind-blower until… until,
• 11:57
  Phil: remembering… remembering this little news bit to… to include. But yeah, that sounds like…
• 12:01
  Phil: You know, I don't make it a point to watch every comic adaptation, because that's just… that's too much, and I don't have that bandwidth, but this is one that I will absolutely seek out, because Black Hole's a fucking classic.
• 12:13
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I'll seek out issue 1, or Episode 1.
• 12:16
  Phil: Heck yeah, give it a shot. I mean, they'll… I'm hoping they'll drop them all at once.
• 12:19
  Phil: sounded like it was Netflix.
• 12:20
  Tad Eggleston: Well, but it doesn't actually matter if they drop them all at once, like, this is one of those that, like, is so uniquely comic to me that if they're not knocking it out of the park really fast, they'll stop caring.
• 12:34
  Phil: That is…
• 12:35
  Phil: Yeah, I mean, I have… I have faith in this creative team, because, again, I still need a CI's valid TP Glue. The reason I haven't yet is because I heard it was more,
• 12:44
  Phil: It was billed as a horror movie, but it wasn't actually scary, and you know…
• 12:48
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, for me, it's not even… I mean, there… I'm certain that there are things out there that are comics adaptations that are great TV shows in their own right. Oh, absolutely.
• 13:00
  Tad Eggleston: I, I, I, I…
• 13:04
  Tad Eggleston: I understand that adaptations are a separate beast, and you can be great even if you have…
• 13:11
  Tad Eggleston: deviated. But,
• 13:18
  Tad Eggleston: My biggest reason for wanting to watch this is because it's a comics adaptation.
• 13:24
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 13:24
  Tad Eggleston: grab me.
• 13:26
  Tad Eggleston: And grab me in… in the way that fits…
• 13:30
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, my TV, my TV and my comics, I have different… but, like, if it doesn't grab me, I'm gonna stop being interested really fast and go read a comic book. Oh, totally.
• 13:42
  Phil: Yeah, it's, it's, for me…
• 13:44
  Tad Eggleston: Probably have an even higher bar for comic adaptations.
• 13:49
  Tad Eggleston: than… than normal TV in terms of…
• 13:53
  Phil: The better the book is, the harsher the.
• 13:55
  Tad Eggleston: Well, no, it's not even a critique, it's just, like…
• 14:00
  Phil: or even chance willing to give, but yeah, I know what you mean, where…
• 14:04
  Tad Eggleston: And again, it's, like…
• 14:06
  Tad Eggleston: There are a million shows that I soft-abandoned, that I would never bash, I just never watch the next episode.
• 14:15
  Phil: Yeah, yeah, that's for sure.
• 14:18
  Tad Eggleston: You know what I mean? Oh, 100%. That's the biggest reason why… why…
• 14:22
  Phil: And half the time, it's not even… I, like, never watch the next episode.
• 14:26
  Tad Eggleston: And I don't mean to.
• 14:28
  Phil: It's… you just forget.
• 14:30
  Tad Eggleston: I just haven't.
• 14:31
  Phil: Yeah, that's happening.
• 14:33
  Tad Eggleston: It's more like, I haven't watched the next episode yet.
• 14:37
  Tad Eggleston: I mean…
• 14:38
  Phil: You don't know when you'll get around to it.
• 14:40
  Tad Eggleston: like…
• 14:41
  Phil: I mean…
• 14:43
  Tad Eggleston: and, like, my Star Wars…
• 14:47
  Tad Eggleston: buddies, like, beat me over the head for this. I haven't watched episode, I think, 3 of Andor yet.
• 14:56
  Phil: Like I said, you haven't seen Revenge of the Sith?
• 14:58
  Tad Eggleston: Or anything beyond that.
• 15:01
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 15:02
  Tad Eggleston: So, like, I watched the first…
• 15:03
  Phil: and or.
• 15:04
  Tad Eggleston: I watched the first two episodes, I liked it, I thought it was good.
• 15:07
  Tad Eggleston: It was a little too intense for Kelly, and I didn't love it so much that I was seeking it out during my spare time, and it's been, what, 3 years now?
• 15:17
  Phil: something.
• 15:18
  Tad Eggleston: Three years and another season?
• 15:19
  Phil: Yeah, I was gonna say, they did a season 2, so it's definitely been a while.
• 15:24
  Tad Eggleston: That's kind of how my TV watching goes.
• 15:29
  Tad Eggleston: There we go.
• 15:30
  Phil: I mean, and that's why I aspire to… it's inspirational, the amount…
• 15:36
  Tad Eggleston: And a lot of my TV watching is rewatching things, because then it's easier to be in the background, and it's just comfort.
• 15:43
  Phil: Oh, yeah. I mean, it's… yeah, that's another thing, is there are times where I… if I have the TV on, I need… I need a second screen. I am at that level of society.
• 15:52
  Tad Eggleston: I've been on a justified tear lately.
• 15:56
  Phil: I hear that one's really good.
• 15:58
  Tad Eggleston: And, and spending my time in the car reading, or listening to Elmore Leonard.
• 16:05
  Phil: Really give it snow.
• 16:06
  Tad Eggleston: novels, so, like, I've been doing both the TV version of the character and the… D.
• 16:15
  Tad Eggleston: She'll receive the character.
• 16:17
  Tad Eggleston: And I actually went and checked down… it's only available on YouTube right now.
• 16:23
  Tad Eggleston: Long before Justified, Showtime had adapted Pronto, Mmm.
• 16:29
  Tad Eggleston: Her first book that, raylan Givens appeared in.
• 16:34
  Phil: Okay.
• 16:35
  Tad Eggleston: We're… He was one of, like, 3 main characters?
• 16:44
  Tad Eggleston: And definitely in terms of the casting, and in terms of the writing, they focused more on the guy that he was looking for.
• 16:55
  Tad Eggleston: Hmm. Because they cast Peter Falk.
• 16:58
  Phil: Oh, yeah, that's… that's a big one, yeah.
• 17:00
  Tad Eggleston: You know.
• 17:01
  Phil: That's always amusing.
• 17:03
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 17:04
  Tad Eggleston: So, you know.
• 17:06
  Tad Eggleston: Anyway, what kind of week has it been?
• 17:10
  Tad Eggleston: Well…
• 17:11
  Phil: Has… still only been a week.
• 17:12
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I mean, apparently, 7-ish million people are… Not that many people, and they all had signs that were made at Kinko's, wrote the same sign! I don't think it's that big of a deal.
• 17:26
  Phil: I wish Yogi Bear was our president, because that's who you sound like right now.
• 17:29
  Tad Eggleston: Okay, sorry.
• 17:30
  Phil: No, no, I, I appreciate…
• 17:33
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I…
• 17:33
  Phil: Yogi Bear, more than…
• 17:35
  Tad Eggleston: I, I, yeah, but I don't want to associate Yogi Bear with…
• 17:39
  Phil: That's fair, that's fair. We don't want… we don't want to cross those…
• 17:43
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yes, 7 million of us took to the streets last weekend.
• 17:48
  Tad Eggleston: I even managed to squeeze out, not during a specific period, because,
• 17:55
  Tad Eggleston: well, my wife's still in the hospital, and was then, but… but, I happen to live in Chicago, so, like, there were the No Kings protests, but there's also the,
• 18:07
  Tad Eggleston: everyday protest at the Broadview Detention Center, so…
• 18:12
  Tad Eggleston: I did spend some time in my afternoon last Saturday at the Broadview Detention Center.
• 18:18
  Tad Eggleston: And let me give a huge thumbs up to, the people out there. They got a nice tent set up with water, and snacks, and signs, and sign-making supplies, and a lost and found table.
• 18:32
  Tad Eggleston: Which, I just love it.
• 18:34
  Tad Eggleston: that somebody had the presence of mind to put together a lost and found table. Oh, yeah. You gotta collect all those stray shoes. Actually, apparently, sometimes it's car keys.
• 18:44
  Phil: Yeah, that's…
• 18:45
  Tad Eggleston: Wallets.
• 18:46
  Phil: without that, yeah, it's pretty big. It's pretty big. It's just, you know…
• 18:51
  Tad Eggleston: We're looking out for me.
• 18:51
  Phil: each other, absolutely. I love to hear stories.
• 18:54
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, so, yeah.
• 18:59
  Tad Eggleston: And, like, that may or may not have anything to do with why, the president has demolished
• 19:11
  Tad Eggleston: the east wing of the White House.
• 19:15
  Phil: It's pretty startling. I saw a side-by-side.
• 19:17
  Tad Eggleston: He said that it wasn't gonna…
• 19:21
  Tad Eggleston: be touched when he was building his ballroom, but…
• 19:24
  Phil: It's pretty clear right now that…
• 19:27
  Phil: He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
• 19:30
  Tad Eggleston: Well, yeah.
• 19:31
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah. And, like, the bunker's on the east wing, so, like, maybe they're actually just using it as cover to do some work there. Though even then, you know, it could be he had to go to the bunker
• 19:47
  Tad Eggleston: a couple of times during his first presidency, and he didn't like it, so maybe it's, like, not a posh enough bunker for him? I don't know. Heaven forbid.
• 19:57
  Tad Eggleston: No massage tables.
• 20:00
  Phil: Man. Oh.
• 20:03
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 20:04
  Tad Eggleston: Though I did… did you… did you catch the, the ad?
• 20:13
  Tad Eggleston: that Ontario?
• 20:15
  Tad Eggleston: put up.
• 20:16
  Phil: No, that sounds fun, though. I tend to like Ontario.
• 20:19
  Tad Eggleston: he completely threw a shit fit after it appeared the first time. Even more of a shit fit? World Series last night, so…
• 20:28
  Phil: Oh, wow.
• 20:29
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 20:30
  Tad Eggleston: Ontario… You…
• 20:33
  Phil: end of.
• 20:34
  Tad Eggleston: Well, yeah, well, it was, it was paid for by the government of Ontario, Canada.
• 20:40
  Tad Eggleston: using… footage and audio from Ronald Reagan.
• 20:51
  Tad Eggleston: Ran an ad… on how bad tariffs were for the American people.
• 21:00
  Phil: That's incredible. Oh, I love that.
• 21:05
  Tad Eggleston: Like I said, I don't know where it first aired, because he threw his shit bit before last night, but I was watching the World Series Game 1 last night, and it ran during the World Series, which, you know, Toronto's in Ontario, so, like…
• 21:19
  Tad Eggleston: But, boy.
• 21:21
  Phil: Wow.
• 21:23
  Phil: Nice. Love, love seeing them poke the bear like that.
• 21:26
  Tad Eggleston: You know, meanwhile, we continue our extraditional… er, extrajudicial murders in the… the…
• 21:34
  Phil: Yeah, huh?
• 21:34
  Tad Eggleston: And now, in the Pacific.
• 21:36
  Phil: Whoa.
• 21:37
  Tad Eggleston: We blew up a boat in the Pacific as well. No evidence has been shown of any of these boats carrying drugs. It should be pointed out that even if there was evidence that they carried drugs, the way that's supposed to work is you're supposed to intercept the boat.
• 21:55
  Tad Eggleston: Board it, arrest the people, take the drugs, and then have a trial?
• 22:02
  Tad Eggleston: Also, I'm not aware of the death penalty, for, like…
• 22:13
  Tad Eggleston: Drug smuggling in this country.
• 22:15
  Phil: Yeah, that's… I… yeah, it's one of those where I…
• 22:20
  Phil: I don't even know how to rationally engage with this, because it's just such a ridiculous series of actions that I get so…
• 22:30
  Phil: So angry and so, like.
• 22:32
  Phil: That's… that's the primary thought that comes across. It's just blatant anger of, why… why the fuck are…
• 22:38
  Phil: We, as a country, doing this, and why It's allowed to continue happening.
• 22:43
  Tad Eggleston: Let's see… pretty certain it was in Heather Cox Richardson's email. Anybody not reading letters from an American really, really should.
• 22:51
  Tad Eggleston: Let's see, the quote from… No, maybe not.
• 23:01
  Tad Eggleston: Cause, yeah, it talks about the…
• 23:07
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, no, here we are.
• 23:11
  Tad Eggleston: when a reporter asked him yesterday why he didn't ask Congress for a declaration of war against those South American drug cartels.
• 23:19
  Tad Eggleston: he claims we're at war with the United States. Trump answered, well, I don't think we're gonna necessarily ask for a declaration of war. I think we're just gonna kill people that are bringing drugs into our country, okay? We're gonna kill them, you know? They're gonna be like…
• 23:33
  Tad Eggleston: Dead, okay?
• 23:37
  Phil: Yeah, that's a… that's a chilling sentiment, but I… yeah, I'm… I'd be terrified of any world leader saying shit like this, much less…
• 23:47
  Phil: the leader of our own country.
• 23:49
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, like, is this, is this, the President of the United States, or Tony Soprano?
• 23:55
  Phil: Yeah, well, that…
• 23:57
  Phil: That's… that's how I… it's hard for you to imagine that's not how he wants to be seen.
• 24:03
  Tad Eggleston: Did you see… Jon Stewart on The Daily Show?
• 24:08
  Phil: I did not, but he's Good.
• 24:11
  Tad Eggleston: He, he, he, he did a wonderful…
• 24:16
  Tad Eggleston: A wonderful, wonderful, like, let's, you know, we're gonna play the clip.
• 24:23
  Tad Eggleston: Because it's off of YouTube. Let me reshare in a way that will give us sound.
• 24:33
  Tad Eggleston: Because…
• 24:34
  Phil: Just a little extra context for.
• 24:36
  Tad Eggleston: This is pretty great.
• 24:37
  Phil: This morning.
• 24:43
  Tad Eggleston: This is Jon Stewart on the Daily Show.
• 24:46
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: He's a miracle worker. Trump just performed an actual miracle before our eyes. He was saved to do things like he did today. He's got just a special anointing. Prophecy, destiny, and divine purpose. President Trump is God's chosen instrument for this moment in time.
• 25:05
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Since this is audio only, that's all, right?
• 25:08
  Tad Eggleston: Wings.
• 25:08
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Christianity.
• 25:09
  Phil: Yes.
• 25:09
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: We're saving God.
• 25:10
  Tad Eggleston: TV and podcasts.
• 25:11
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: To Republicans, King is a demotion.
• 25:16
  Phil: He's not a kid?
• 25:17
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: He's a deity!
• 25:18
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Sent by God to bring peace to all of mankind. A Jesus-like figure. I mean, I get it.
• 25:24
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: There is a lot of crossover.
• 25:26
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: That's why tonight I thought we'd end our program.
• 25:29
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: With some fun, and play the hottest new game show on basic cable.
• 25:33
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Jesus… or Trump.
• 25:38
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Alright, here we go!
• 25:44
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: I'll read a quote.
• 25:46
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: And you try and figure out…
• 25:50
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: If it was said by Donald J. Trump or Jesus H. Christ.
• 25:53
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Oh boy.
• 25:58
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Get out your scorecards!
• 26:01
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: First quote!
• 26:03
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Love your enemies, and pray for those Who persecute you.
• 26:07
  Phil: I'm starting off… Oh, this is a close one.
• 26:10
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Give everybody a second to lock in their answers.
• 26:14
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Jesus Christ, that's you.
• 26:20
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Got about 60% in the audience, got it.
• 26:23
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Number two, be on your guard against all kinds of greed.
• 26:27
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Life does not consist in an abundance of possessions. That's another tricky one. I want you to take…
• 26:35
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Jesus again. That was a two completely.
• 26:42
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Let me try another one.
• 26:44
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: I did try and her.
• 26:56
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Please wait till after I finish the quote before you're off in there.
• 27:00
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Please.
• 27:01
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: I did try and her, she was married.
• 27:07
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: And I moved on her very heavily.
• 27:10
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: In fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said, I'll show you where they have some nice furniture.
• 27:18
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Ma'am?
• 27:23
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Please respect the other contestants.
• 27:29
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: I moved on her like a bitch.
• 27:33
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: But I couldn't… Don't boo, it could be Jesus.
• 27:38
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: And you are risking… Eternal life.
• 27:43
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: But I couldn't get there, and she was married. Then all of a sudden, I see her, she's now got the big, phony tits and everything, she's totally changed her look.
• 28:00
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: Lock it, lock in.
• 28:05
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: That one was shot. That was tough. Bing, bong! Yeah, you got that, you got…
• 28:08
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: You guys are very good at this game.
• 28:12
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: So if you ask, is Trump a king? Nay! Nay!
• 28:17
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: He's the King of Kings!
• 28:19
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: And that, my friends, is a reason to rejoice.
• 28:25
  Phil: Yeah, that's a… for anyone… for anyone who… whose sensors might not be calibrated right, that was all sarcasm.
• 28:32
  Tad Eggleston: Yes.
• 28:33
  Phil: told…
• 28:34
  Tad Eggleston: Yes, so you're here
• 28:35
  Tad Eggleston: Yes, I… well, and I did cut it off before he got into the playing of the… I mean, and this is what I love, and it was so great, like…
• 28:47
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I loved all of the ways that they had to clutch pearls. I'm gonna use the J.D. Vance line to clutch pearls, trying to,
• 29:01
  Tad Eggleston: downplay… the No Kings rallies, because, you know, it was… it was… it was, like, Fox News… Fox News!
• 29:13
  Tad Eggleston: Was… you notice how it's all old people? And they're, like, all white?
• 29:21
  Phil: Are you about the protesters?
• 29:23
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 29:24
  Phil: Yeah.
• 29:24
  Tad Eggleston: Right, Fox News!
• 29:27
  Phil: Wow.
• 29:27
  Tad Eggleston: at the just…
• 29:32
  Tad Eggleston: Many of the people who had been talking about how they were gonna be dangerous Hamas protests, then tried to pivot to, they're not serious, it's silly, it's just a party.
• 29:46
  Phil: That's… one of my favorite lines was seeing one guy go from, these people are clowns, to they're organized, they're buying their own animal costumes.
• 29:56
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 29:57
  Phil: Right!
• 29:58
  Phil: Like, it's… It's… It's more surreal than an absurdist comedy.
• 30:05
  Tad Eggleston: But, I mean, just to add context to the whole pearl clutching, apparently, anybody who thinks the young, young, young 30 to 40-year.
• 30:17
  Phil: Republican.
• 30:18
  Tad Eggleston: who… who are in… Positions of power in government,
• 30:26
  Tad Eggleston: weren't just boys being boys when they were talking about… Nazi streak, and…
• 30:35
  Phil: Yeah, how much they love Hillary.
• 30:36
  Tad Eggleston: Not in their text thread, oh, you're just, you're just clutching your pearls.
• 30:42
  Phil: Let us note that here at 22 Panels, the only Hitler humor we endorse is dead Hitler humor.
• 30:49
  Tad Eggleston: We do prefer dead Hitler humor.
• 30:52
  Tad Eggleston: We do, we do prefer Deadhit.
• 30:54
  Phil: It's a… it's a distinct choice that we made a long time ago.
• 30:57
  Tad Eggleston: Yay!
• 30:58
  Phil: Oh, man.
• 30:59
  Phil: It's also rather humorous that a quote-unquote young Republican is in their 30s or 40s.
• 31:05
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean… All young Republicans are between 18 and 40.
• 31:10
  Phil: There you go, yeah.
• 31:11
  Tad Eggleston: That's like…
• 31:11
  Phil: Whoa.
• 31:12
  Tad Eggleston: That's like the…
• 31:16
  Tad Eggleston: But this was young Republican leadership.
• 31:19
  Phil: Right, it's… oh my gosh. Basically.
• 31:21
  Tad Eggleston: One of the people on the chat was a state senator. One of the people, or a couple of people on the chat were, like.
• 31:32
  Tad Eggleston: chiefs of staff to congressmen, like, one of the people on the chat just had to…
• 31:40
  Tad Eggleston: Remove himself from consideration to become…
• 31:43
  Phil: Good!
• 31:44
  Tad Eggleston: the head of…
• 31:46
  Tad Eggleston: the, the, I forget exactly what it is, but, but, like, special counsel for government workers, because it's a Senate-confirmed job, and thank God, there are just enough Republican senators who said, yeah.
• 32:02
  Tad Eggleston: you're just gonna say… you're just gonna walk away, because we don't want to have a hearing, and we're certainly not voting for you. Yeah.
• 32:14
  Phil: Which apparently is now the low, low bar to, to.
• 32:19
  Tad Eggleston: To, to, to say that you, you are a, a…
• 32:26
  Tad Eggleston: a person of conscience in the Republican Party.
• 32:30
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, you know… I will not vote to confirm a person who has openly said that they have a bit of a Nazi streak.
• 32:43
  Tad Eggleston: To a position in our government.
• 32:45
  Phil: Yeah, this is… this is,
• 32:48
  Phil: the thought… the joke that comes to mind is, you know hell's frozen over when Republicans are developing standards.
• 32:54
  Tad Eggleston: But, but mind you, I mean, these are boys will be boys in their 30s.
• 32:59
  Phil: Damn.
• 33:01
  Phil: Yeah, that's.
• 33:01
  Tad Eggleston: That's another 14-year-old gets pregnant, she's having a baby.
• 33:05
  Phil: Yeah, that's… oi… that's a great way to, to frame that double standard.
• 33:11
  Phil: You know,
• 33:13
  Phil: That you're an adult when… when you make a decision that they… they want to go one way, but you're a child when you make a decision that they want to go the other way.
• 33:24
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, really, it's… women are adults as soon as they can breed. Yeah. And men are adults as soon as they're done staying and doing stupid things… At their convenience.
• 33:37
  Phil: Right. Yeah. Yeah, it's bullshit. It's… it's… it's grade A bullshit.
• 33:43
  Phil: Oof.
• 33:45
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 33:45
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah. So, we have a brand new catalog.
• 33:50
  Tad Eggleston: Feel that! All sorts of new-to-order stuff. You're leading off with.
• 33:56
  Phil: Here we go, a heck of a book.
• 33:58
  Tad Eggleston: What.
• 34:00
  Phil: Some might even say a hell of a book.
• 34:02
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, one of our upcoming, guests.
• 34:05
  Phil: Oh yeah, this is going to be The Crown, A Tale of Hell, number one.
• 34:10
  Phil: From Mike and Todd McNula, illustrated by Warwick Johnson Hadwell, from Dark Horse Comics.
• 34:17
  Phil: Hellboy's brothers fight for control of pandemonium in this demonic family reunion. But it isn't just the siblings who get involved in the power struggle, as their mother returns from her prison for the first time in 100 years, and has plans of her own.
• 34:30
  Phil: Mike Mignola is joined by his brother, Todd McNiola, which the other one was held by The Exorcistor.
• 34:36
  Tad Eggleston: There's, there, there's your, there's your answer.
• 34:38
  Phil: We were, before recording, we were, we were, struggling to remember the other time Todd came on board, and artist Warwick Johnson Cadwell, in this new Hellboy prequel series that's gonna be in stores February 11th, 2026, from Dark Horse.
• 34:52
  Tad Eggleston: And we're talking to Todd on Tuesday night.
• 34:55
  Phil: Yeah, tune in! It's gonna be exciting.
• 34:58
  Tad Eggleston: So, ho- hopefully… We have got a lot…
• 35:01
  Tad Eggleston: recording over the next few days, so Tuesday might, might mean as late as Friday or Saturday release.
• 35:11
  Tad Eggleston: But… but yeah, tune in.
• 35:13
  Tad Eggleston: Soon.
• 35:16
  Tad Eggleston: I… I… I…
• 35:20
  Tad Eggleston: I've read this, because it's already been part of an omnibus, but they're putting it out in single issues now.
• 35:27
  Tad Eggleston: Hank Howard, Pizza Detective, number one for the, the, the two Hollywoods, I am most excited…
• 35:41
  Tad Eggleston: Because… and it, like, almost makes me want to figure out how I can get one.
• 35:46
  Phil: The…
• 35:48
  Tad Eggleston: The 1 in 50… is… is not only a 3D cover, but a 3D interior.
• 35:56
  Phil: Oh, my goodness.
• 35:57
  Tad Eggleston: Right, so New York Times best-selling writer Robert Venditti and world-renowned comics television David Lapham have combined powers to bring you a striking new vision in the fight against crime. Hank's investigation into a deadly international crime syndicate gets hot when long-time big Caligula employee is murdered in cold blood.
• 36:16
  Tad Eggleston: He'll stop at nothing to bring the killers to justice, journeying cross-country to the crime-laden streets of Hollywood.
• 36:23
  Tad Eggleston: California.
• 36:25
  Tad Eggleston: There, he'll face off against the Australian Mafia, dodge fire-spinning flamethrowers, high-caliber shootouts, and a kangaroo on a choke chain in the most explosive adventure yet.
• 36:38
  Tad Eggleston: This is from Bad Idea Comics. It'll be in stores on January 7th.
• 36:45
  Phil: That sounds fun.
• 36:45
  Tad Eggleston: And again, the 1 in 50 variant, is 3D.
• 36:51
  Phil: All.
• 36:51
  Tad Eggleston: I was initially really excited, because when I was looking at it in the catalog, it didn't have…
• 37:00
  Tad Eggleston: a ratio?
• 37:03
  Tad Eggleston: and… for a moment, I thought that maybe… we had… A. A.
• 37:12
  Tad Eggleston: Open order.
• 37:18
  Tad Eggleston: 3D, and that would have been…
• 37:21
  Phil: Do you… do you have a special set of 3D glasses for occasions like this, or do you think they're… I mean.
• 37:26
  Tad Eggleston: A, I do, but B, it will come with them.
• 37:32
  Phil: Okay, good. Because I do not keep 3D glasses on hand. I don't know if he'll pick that up, though, babe.
• 37:37
  Tad Eggleston: Dennis Kitchen sent me some.
• 37:39
  Phil: Oh, they're nice, those are…
• 37:41
  Tad Eggleston: with some 3D put.
• 37:42
  Tad Eggleston: Posters that he made.
• 37:44
  Phil: Oh, nice, extra special 3D.
• 37:45
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:47
  Tad Eggleston: So,
• 37:49
  Tad Eggleston: I don't normally, do the Fast Assembly editions, but we're gonna do a few of them this month.
• 37:55
  Tad Eggleston: Including…
• 37:59
  Tad Eggleston: To celebrate the 50th anniversary of Fanta Graphics, we are proud to present a series of replicant editions of classic Fanta Graphics comics from the company's storied history.
• 38:12
  Tad Eggleston: Beginning with the one that launched a thousand ships, the very first issue of Lovin' Rockets, Volume 1 from 1982.
• 38:21
  Tad Eggleston: Introducing Maggie, Hopi, Luba, and so many more of the extended Love & Rockets cast that readers still know and love almost 45 years on, including Gilbert's groundbreaking BEM,
• 38:32
  Tad Eggleston: Jaime's instant fan favorite mechanics, and so much more. Look for another classic Phantographics replicant next month. So yeah, loving rockets.
• 38:42
  Tad Eggleston: Number… Volume 1, Number 1, Fascimile Edition from…
• 38:46
  Phil: The Brothers Hernandez, we might be talking to Gilbert soon.
• 38:50
  Tad Eggleston: like… Tomorrow? Yeah, tomorrow.
• 38:58
  Tad Eggleston: I'm also in stores on January 28th.
• 39:02
  Phil: I'm also seeing now the, the… where the Watchmen influence is coming from with that, the blood spatter on yellow, and I'm pretty sure there was promotional material with all the characters standing in front of a, you know, like a…
• 39:16
  Tad Eggleston: And again, this is 82, Watchman is 84.
• 39:19
  Phil: Exactly, that's what the Watchmen influenced this is clearly.
• 39:22
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 39:22
  Phil: Where they were getting the ideas from, but that's so cool.
• 39:26
  Tad Eggleston: Gibbons got a lot… I mean, Gibbons… the way I understand it, and one of these days I'm gonna have to, like, go read the annotated Watchmen, that sort of thing, but the way I understand it, Gibbetts got, like, a lot.
• 39:38
  Tad Eggleston: of his visual ideas for what he wanted to do from Watchmen.
• 39:44
  Tad Eggleston: with Watchmen from… from Love and Rockets.
• 39:47
  Phil: Hell yeah.
• 39:49
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah.
• 39:51
  Phil: Alright, next up, I didn't realize this was, Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas, The Shiver of Christmas Town, but here it is, written by Torin, Bronbeck, apologies on the pronunciation, and Edu… and art by Edu Mena.
• 40:07
  Phil: Covers from Jay Lee, boys and girls of every age, time for something new and strange. Dynamite's first ever ongoing comic book series set in the world of the beloved film Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas is coming this January. Written by Torin Gronbeck, illustrated by supernaturally talented Edu Mena, Tim Burton's Nightmare Before Christmas, The Shiver of Christmastown, returns to this… to the enchanted lands of Halloweentown and Christmastown.
• 40:30
  Phil: for an all-new tale of adventure that will have readers in stitches. It all begins with the unveiling of Dr. Frankenstein's newest creation, specially designed to be the scariest creature ever to celebrate All Hallows' Eat.
• 40:43
  Phil: something has gone awry in the process, and the final result is more shocks and shivers and something, and we're running out of time, so it's gonna be in stores January 7th.
• 40:54
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, this is one where we're gonna play them off the stage with music, because that's…
• 41:00
  Phil: Internet, internet.
• 41:01
  Tad Eggleston: Way too long of a…
• 41:03
  Phil: I can't even call it a blurb. Admittedly, I, I was.
• 41:08
  Tad Eggleston: Feels like they're trying to give us the entire plot of the…
• 41:11
  Phil: Yeah. Issue. We need to reference everyone from Nightmare Before Christmas. There we go.
• 41:18
  Tad Eggleston: So, let's look at some graphic novels.
• 41:22
  Phil: Yeah, this one, next up, we have The Girl Who Draws on Whales from Arila… Kristana?
• 41:29
  Tad Eggleston: below.
• 41:30
  Phil: Ariella Cristantina. Thank you very much for that one. Also coming from Dark Horse,
• 41:36
  Phil: And she is the artist of the Eisner Award-nominated graphic novel Adora in the Distance. The girl who draws on whales is a testimony to the power of stories and their uncanny ability to entertain, educate, and ultimately unite us. It's set in a fantasy world several centuries after the Great Flood. Sister Wangi and younger brother Banyu live in a sea village. Wang Yi has a special bond with the great whales that visit the sea village, and they allow
• 42:01
  Phil: Wangi to draw on their backs. Sometimes they return with new drawings on them.
• 42:06
  Phil: Wongi believes that there are other sea villages or island settlements scattered around, that they are sending her messages, but none of the elders listen to her.
• 42:15
  Phil: That sounds absolutely fantastic, gonna be in stores March 31st, 2026, again, from Dark Horse Comics.
• 42:26
  Tad Eggleston: I'm actually kind of surprised with myself for having missed… this…
• 42:33
  Tad Eggleston: with Volume 1, because this just is, like, my kind of cool young adult.
• 42:40
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 42:41
  Tad Eggleston: And I like… er, not even young adults.
• 42:43
  Phil: This is middle grade.
• 42:44
  Tad Eggleston: Right, middle grade. And I like Shelley Fish already. Kanga Yu!
• 42:50
  Tad Eggleston: Tests and Tournaments, a Wonder Woman graphic novel from Shelly Fish and Yancey Labatt. Is Jumpa ready to hop into action? Wonder Woman's home island of Themyscryro holds many surprises, the most adorable having floppy ears and long tails.
• 43:07
  Tad Eggleston: Kangas are companions and partners for the Amazon's beloved steeds and protectors of their bonded warriors.
• 43:13
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: and.
• 43:14
  Tad Eggleston: On the island, a school exists to train the next generation of Kangas for the many.
• 43:20
  Audio shared by Tad Eggleston: battles.
• 43:21
  Tad Eggleston: challenges of the future. Again, this is the second Kanga Yu graphic novel. It'll be in stores on June 3rd, a follow-up to The Lost in a Labyrinth.
• 43:39
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, wait a minute.
• 43:40
  Tad Eggleston: I just… I didn't…
• 43:42
  Phil: You jumped ahead.
• 43:43
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, da-da-da.
• 43:43
  Phil: Mmm…
• 43:44
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, so I, I just read the… I'm sorry.
• 43:49
  Tad Eggleston: Tests and Tournaments is in stores now. Lost in the Labyrinth.
• 43:54
  Tad Eggleston: Traps in the legendary Greek Labyrinth, Jumpa and her friends will face some of mythology's most fearsome creatures. We'll be in stores on March 3rd.
• 44:04
  Phil: right? There's gonna be a second Kangaroo-themed DC book, and that's… that's… it's clearly still not enough. This… this needs to… we need to.
• 44:12
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I mean, I feel like this is not something that's likely to go away.
• 44:18
  Phil: It, it… We can hope so.
• 44:20
  Tad Eggleston: Pretty awesome.
• 44:21
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 44:23
  Phil: Alright, now we have Nils, The Tree of Life, from writer Jerome Hammond and artist.
• 44:31
  Phil: Antoine, Carrion?
• 44:35
  Phil: The struggle between man and nature comes to a climax. This
• 44:40
  Phil: Ecological Future Fantasy by writer Jerome Hammond tells the story of a young man and his father searching for clues as to why life has ceased to thrive. Their journey will uncover a supernatural conspiracy between the nearby high-tech kingdom and the ruinous pursuit of eternal life. Mix in the return of long-forgotten and jealous gods, and you have a surreal fantasy of truly Wagnerian scope.
• 45:04
  Tad Eggleston: It's been out of print for 2 years, and now it's coming back in stores January 21st. And this is from… which publisher is this? I'm not totally sure. Magnetic and Oni.
• 45:15
  Phil: Knetic and Oni. Excellent, there we go, that's… that sounds very cool.
• 45:21
  Tad Eggleston: Teodora's letters.
• 45:24
  Tad Eggleston: An enslaved woman's fight for family and freedom.
• 45:29
  Tad Eggleston: by Marcelo de Salite.
• 45:32
  Tad Eggleston: In mid-19th century, millions of Africans were enslaved and brought to Brazil. Among them was the real-life Teodora.
• 45:39
  Tad Eggleston: who, separated from her husband and her son, worked in a home of priest… of a priest in Sao Paulo. Wishing to reconstruct the family ties lost during the journey from Africa to Brazil, and to achieve emancipation for herself and her family, she began…
• 45:56
  Tad Eggleston: She gave Claro, a black man who could read and write, money to help her write letters. Some addressed to her husband and her son.
• 46:05
  Tad Eggleston: whereabouts unknown, in the hopes that the letters would find them, and that they could achieve this quest together. And some addressed enslavers, intended to either help locate her family, or to persuade them to let her buy her freedom.
• 46:23
  Tad Eggleston: Give me just a second. The brat…
• 46:27
  Phil: Nope.
• 46:27
  Tad Eggleston: Turned on my CPAP.
• 46:29
  Phil: Wow! This is, Eddie's first interaction, despite my cats being here to ward him off. He's getting bolder.
• 46:36
  Tad Eggleston: So, this is from Fana Graphics Books in stores on January 28th.
• 46:42
  Tad Eggleston: They continue to put out fabulous, fabulous stuff in their 50th year.
• 46:52
  Tad Eggleston: Couple of collections.
• 46:57
  Phil: Alrighty, and this one is Don't Forget Your Briefcase from writer Elliot Rael and artist Philip Sevey.
• 47:04
  Phil: Everywhere the president goes, there is a military liaison who follows, carrying a briefcase with the codes to launch a nuclear strike. And it's just been lost. This is a story about what happens when a 10-year-old boy finds a nuclear football and accidentally brings the world to the brink of annihilation.
• 47:20
  Phil: In stores, January 7th, 2026.
• 47:27
  Tad Eggleston: I wouldn't let you have this one.
• 47:29
  Phil: That's fair.
• 47:30
  Tad Eggleston: A.
• 47:30
  Tad Eggleston: A, it's from our, our, our patron saint, and B is humor from our patron saint.
• 47:37
  Phil: I did not realize.
• 47:38
  Tad Eggleston: My gun is the jury and Other Stories from Jack Davis, Wally Wood.
• 47:46
  Tad Eggleston: Al Feldstein, Jack Mendelson, and a story from Harvey Kurtzman. Crazed Cartooning in… er, Davis is in Woods.
• 47:55
  Tad Eggleston: Craze Cartooning in Mad changed the art form and comedy itself forever, but their gonzo parody work in Mad' sister satire titled Panic
• 48:04
  Tad Eggleston: Published at the same time, is less well known. To invert that injustice, this volume of the Phanographics EC Artist Library presents all their zany, pun-packed panic lampoonery, especially their pomposity.
• 48:17
  Tad Eggleston: puncturing movie parodies, including Davis's My Gun is the Jury.
• 48:22
  Tad Eggleston: Come Back, Little Streetcar, A Star is Corn, and Wood's African Scream, Gone with the Widow, and 20,000 Leaks Under the Sea. These visual volleys are verbalized by Alf Edstein and Jack Mendelssohn.
• 48:39
  Tad Eggleston: Mendelssohn, would also write for TV's Laugh-In and The Beatles' Yellow Submarine, but the laughs don't languish. Also included is the never-before-rinted The Vampires.
• 48:53
  Phil: the vampires.
• 48:54
  Tad Eggleston: A riotous romp written by the legendary Harvey Kurtzman and drawn by Wood that vanished after its initial appearance more than 70 years ago.
• 49:04
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah…
• 49:06
  Phil: A star is corn is killing me.
• 49:09
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 49:10
  Phil: That one keeps on hitting, holy shit.
• 49:12
  Tad Eggleston: Bollywood and Jack Davis doing… I mean, they…
• 49:17
  Phil: This book is somehow even more incredible than I thought by the title alone.
• 49:21
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. yeah.
• 49:26
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I… I love…
• 49:30
  Tad Eggleston: the art and all of the EC horror and crime books, and often like the stories.
• 49:38
  Tad Eggleston: But Wood and Davis and Kurtzman just, like, their humor is off the charts.
• 49:45
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 49:47
  Phil: Historical humor becomes more and more interesting as time goes on.
• 49:52
  Phil: Yeah. Oh, I'm certain that there are things in this that, like…
• 49:55
  Tad Eggleston: We sit there and go, huh…
• 49:59
  Tad Eggleston: It'll be… it'll be like the… did you watch the Saturday Night Live 50th Anniversary Special?
• 50:05
  Phil: No.
• 50:06
  Tad Eggleston: They had a whole reel of things that they kinda regret.
• 50:10
  Phil: Mmm.
• 50:12
  Phil: Interesting.
• 50:14
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. I think they, they, they, they, they did… I don't even think they, like, did the… it was a different time. It was, it was the things we probably shouldn't have done. But then they showed it again, so, I mean…
• 50:28
  Phil: Couldn't have been that bad.
• 50:28
  Tad Eggleston: about humor is, like…
• 50:34
  Tad Eggleston: If it's done in humor, where do you cross the… I mean, I really…
• 50:40
  Tad Eggleston: The consumer has a very different line.
• 50:42
  Phil: It does.
• 50:43
  Tad Eggleston: I think so. But, but, I still think… I mean, I think… I think really what they were saying is we would've… we possibly still would have done this sketch, but we would have written it a little bit differently today.
• 50:55
  Phil: Yeah, yeah. For me, some of the interest is figuring out why something was considered funny, and sometimes that
• 51:02
  Phil: interesting. Sometimes it makes it less funny, but, you know, sometimes it makes it more funny.
• 51:07
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.
• 51:07
  Phil: It's always a mystery.
• 51:09
  Tad Eggleston: Yep. So, yeah.
• 51:12
  Tad Eggleston: New catalog?
• 51:15
  Tad Eggleston: This'll be Tyler's first catalog for his shop. No, actually, I think he ordered from the October catalog.
• 51:20
  Phil: Oh, okay, I was gonna say, I mean, he's gotta frame it. He's gotta frame his first catalog, you know?
• 51:25
  Tad Eggleston: Well, except that they don't really print them anymore, I don't think.
• 51:29
  Phil: Well, that's a bummer. I mean, it's understandable, that's a lot of paper, but that's… that's still…
• 51:33
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 51:34
  Tad Eggleston: So anyway, final order cutoff…
• 51:38
  Tad Eggleston: for Monday, November 3rd. We have Aggie from Mark Russell at Ace… and… oh, I'm sorry.
• 51:46
  Tad Eggleston: Mark Russell, ACO, David Lernzero, at AWA, out December 17th. All the Living, which I gave a read.
• 51:55
  Tad Eggleston: Last week, and it was quite good, from Roman Murdoff at Phantographics on December 3rd. Barbaric, The Long Death No. 1 from Michael Maurici and Nathan Gooden at Vault Comics on December 3rd.
• 52:07
  Tad Eggleston: Batman Green Arrow, The Question, Arcadia, number one from Gabriel Hardman at DC, out on November 26th. Charlie, Charles Chaplin, the funniest man in the world, from Seymour Chuast and Steven Brower at Fanet Graphics on December 3rd. I read that one this week as well, and enjoyed it.
• 52:26
  Tad Eggleston: quite a bit. A nice short biography of,
• 52:32
  Tad Eggleston: Chaplain, to give you a good feel, make you want to learn more about them.
• 52:37
  Tad Eggleston: Faster from Jesse Lonergan at Bulligan Press, December 3rd. This is actually a new version and a more widely available version of one that had previously only been available straight from Bulligan or off of Jesse's Table at Cons. Such a good book. I love Jesse Lonergan.
• 52:55
  Tad Eggleston: The Magnificent Adventure, The Perils of Giuseppe Bergman from Milo Monera at Fanagraphics on December 3rd. This is, an old adventure strip of Milo's that,
• 53:09
  Tad Eggleston: Owes a lot. It's got a lot of Quarto-Maltese-type feel.
• 53:13
  Tad Eggleston: I read the first chapter of it this week.
• 53:16
  Tad Eggleston: Ordained number one from Robert Menditti and Trevor Harrison at Bad Idea on December 10th. I read that one a while ago, before we talked to the Bad I… see, see, this is the week where I've actually read them all, or not quite all of them, but a lot of them, and I can go, you should go read this.
• 53:34
  Tad Eggleston: This is why, like, should we have any, PR people listening? This is why you send me shit. I read it.
• 53:40
  Phil: And then I go… Yeah, he does.
• 53:42
  Tad Eggleston: Definitely.
• 53:44
  Tad Eggleston: Petro Cherry, I have not read, but it looks beautiful. Micheluzzi at Fanographics on December 3rd, and I have read We're Taking Everyone Down With Us from
• 53:57
  Tad Eggleston: Matthew Rosenberg, and Stefano Lendini with Jason Wordy. The collection will be available from Image Comics on December 10th.
• 54:05
  Tad Eggleston: Some crowdfunding?
• 54:08
  Tad Eggleston: Dracula Book 3, The Count from Matt Wagner and Kelly Jones is on Kickstarter until October 30th. The first two volumes of this are absolutely gorgeous and amazing and just, like, not even a vampire guy.
• 54:24
  Tad Eggleston: And I wound up loving these books. I just talked to Matt and Kelly, you can hear it now, and oh my god, are they excited about these books.
• 54:33
  Tad Eggleston: Feeling Messed Up from David F. Walker on Kickstarter, his mental health journey, available through, funding through October 30th. Our long national nightmare political cartoons from Tom Tomorrow on Kickstarter through October 30th.
• 54:47
  Tad Eggleston: The third issue of The Dead and the Damned from Sebastian Gerner and Kelly Williams at Ghost Flying Press on Kickstarter through October 31st. The Sync Halloween Special No. 1 from John Lee's and
• 55:01
  Tad Eggleston: Alex Cormack at Comics Tribe on Kickstarter through October 31st. The Comics Courier issue 3, edited by Tiffany Babb on Kickstarter through November 1st. Rigsby, Wisconsin, Volume 2, Burn It Down from S.E. Case on… from Iron Circus.
• 55:19
  Tad Eggleston: On Kickstarter through November 6th, Mangaka, Akaiju, and Omega, Juan Ponce and Lear Noise on Zoop through November 7th. The Beneath the Trees Where Nobody Sees Storytelling game, Hunter's Entertainment on Kickstarter through November 12th.
• 55:37
  Tad Eggleston: and the A1 Deadline Special, bringing together 2… Indie…
• 55:46
  Tad Eggleston: British indie comic anthologies from the 80s back, with many of their original creators and some new ones.
• 56:02
  Tad Eggleston: in stores, Or not in stores, funding on Kickstarter through November 12th.
• 56:09
  Tad Eggleston: So yeah.
• 56:10
  Tad Eggleston: A lot of good Kickstarters right now.
• 56:14
  Tad Eggleston: Anyway… My amazing books.
• 56:18
  Tad Eggleston: It was a tough week, because, A, everything I read was great, and B, I didn't read quite as much as I would have liked, because, well, my wife's in the hospital, so it's been an interesting week.
• 56:31
  Tad Eggleston: But,
• 56:34
  Tad Eggleston: kind of knew in my back pocket that the Ephemerada, shaping the Exquisite Nature of Grief from Carol Tyler at Phantom Graphics was gonna take that top spot when it was officially released, because…
• 56:45
  Tad Eggleston: This is Carol's masterpiece. Carol is one of the greatest…
• 56:52
  Tad Eggleston: Cartoonists of her generation, and her generation is a hell of a generation.
• 56:57
  Tad Eggleston: Bomb.
• 56:59
  Tad Eggleston: And this is her masterpiece.
• 57:01
  Tad Eggleston: I'm very much looking forward to Volume 2, though my heart, particularly having just… just finally watched the documentary about her and her husband, Justin Green, Married to Comics.
• 57:14
  Tad Eggleston: And knowing that the next volume of this is her dealing with his passing, I, like, feel for her as she works on it. Go check out my interview with her if you want to know more about this book, but the Ephemerada, Shaping the Exquisite Nature of Grief is,
• 57:36
  Tad Eggleston: Just… aside from just being an absolutely beautiful book, a really… moving… exploration of…
• 57:52
  Tad Eggleston: one woman's grief in a way that I think a lot of people will relate to.
• 57:57
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah.
• 58:02
  Tad Eggleston: Which is how it even managed to bite out Lazarus Fallen number 5.
• 58:06
  Tad Eggleston: Weesh.
• 58:07
  Phil: Talk about an issue full of grief.
• 58:08
  Tad Eggleston: 25, number 2. I did predict that they were both gonna be in the top list. I don't remember which order I had them in for my.
• 58:18
  Phil: I think you had them like this.
• 58:19
  Tad Eggleston: What?
• 58:20
  Phil: I think so… I said, I think you had them like this. I think you had Lazarus and then Powers.
• 58:23
  Tad Eggleston: I think I might have two, I don't remember. But, but yeah,
• 58:32
  Tad Eggleston: they kept their spots, no matter how good the other ones were. And there were a lot of good books this week. So, anyway…
• 58:40
  Tad Eggleston: Phil, you wanna take a walk?
• 58:42
  Phil: Sure, yeah, hey, I'm walking here,
• 58:45
  Phil: You know, this is my, my list of honorable mentions from mind blowers. Of course, Lazarus No. 5, Lazarus Fallen number 5 is one of those, as Lazarus is definitely a mind-blowing work, in my opinion. It's a lot of things, but…
• 59:02
  Phil: you know, it fit in with this. Then, of course, the other couple I have, a pair of titles from Monsieur Alan Moore, both Promethea with J.H. Williams III, from his imprint ABC Comics that was originally at Wildstorm, then bought by DC, and Providence, with Alan Moore and Jason Burroughs, Avatar Press. I feel like these two books
• 59:23
  Phil: Mind-blowing in different ways.
• 59:26
  Phil: You know, one about… kind of…
• 59:30
  Phil: goodness and the divine, and the other about, evilness, and, the profane.
• 59:37
  Phil: And, they're, they're a hell of a pair. And then, of course, this one is another deep cut, the, not manga, but Manhwa series, King of Hell, from Ra In Sue, published by Tokyo Pop way back when I was in high school. I'm thinking specifically there was a moment in a tournament arc where the main character, who is, you know.
• 59:58
  Phil: the titular King of Hell.
• 1:00:00
  Phil: He, he's fighting, other people and totally destroying them, and someone comes up to him afterwards and points out, like, your sword!
• 1:00:08
  Phil: it's not a magic sword. It's just… it's just a regular piece of metal. And he's like, yeah, that's how… that's how strong I am. And that was a mind-blowing moment for me when I read it in… in high school. This idea that, you know, oh, wow, like…
• 1:00:21
  Phil: I don't know, always having been a fan of magic swords, and the idea that, you know, like, Excalibur is what makes Arthur the king, and then it's like, no, it's what's in the person, it's not what's in the sword. It was a very good inversion of expectations there.
• 1:00:37
  Phil: And I'd say next up, Tad, how's One Piece going?
• 1:00:41
  Tad Eggleston: I read no one piece this week.
• 1:00:43
  Phil: That's understandable. It's been a busy week.
• 1:00:46
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. I thought about it, like…
• 1:00:52
  Tad Eggleston: When I got home last night.
• 1:00:55
  Tad Eggleston: At 2 AM.
• 1:00:57
  Phil: That's…
• 1:00:58
  Tad Eggleston: Ehh.
• 1:00:58
  Phil: It's too late to consider reading more.
• 1:01:00
  Tad Eggleston: And I thought about it, when I woke up at… Five… But instead decided to…
• 1:01:13
  Tad Eggleston: Steal a couple more hours of sleep.
• 1:01:17
  Phil: I learned.
• 1:01:17
  Tad Eggleston: So, so yeah. I didn't get to it earlier in the week, and, and and I,
• 1:01:27
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah… the time that I thought to go…
• 1:01:32
  Tad Eggleston: To go read it, it just wasn't… there wasn't room.
• 1:01:37
  Phil: That's understandable. Understandable, having off week. I, just took a nose at, like, just started reading the first chapter of a book called Cat Plus Gamer,
• 1:01:47
  Tad Eggleston: That's been on my radar.
• 1:01:48
  Phil: Yeah, it's been very charming-looking. You know, it's like a busy office worker who, someone brings in a cat in a box, and she decides to take him home. And I mean, I'm sold already. I mean, I obviously love cats. I have two of my own, so I will read pretty much any comic in any form that is starring cats.
• 1:02:08
  Tad Eggleston: More, more evidence that, the cats are, are, are involved in the, robbery, I mean…
• 1:02:17
  Phil: They had to reveal that the original Mona Lisa was actually a cat.
• 1:02:21
  Tad Eggleston: Well, but I was actually just thinking that, like, comics have taught us that there are cats in Louvre.
• 1:02:27
  Phil: Oh, yeah!
• 1:02:28
  Tad Eggleston: They, like, know their places. I mean, my theory is that, like, the Ocean's Boys were the ones on the ladder and on the motorcycles, they just never actually entered the building.
• 1:02:39
  Phil: Oh.
• 1:02:40
  Tad Eggleston: the ladder.
• 1:02:41
  Phil: Release their man.
• 1:02:42
  Tad Eggleston: Joe.
• 1:02:43
  Phil: No, no, the masters were already inside. It was all in this direction. I see. They climbed down… I mean, the reason it seems so fast is that, like…
• 1:02:55
  Tad Eggleston: It had actually happened before they started climbing the ladders, but again, the misdirection…
• 1:03:04
  Phil: And if you'd read Wi3, you'd know that, cats have a different perception of the passage of time, because they weigh so much less than us.
• 1:03:14
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah, no, it's, it's, it's, like, very, very… I think it's overwhelmingly clear that, that, that it was cats.
• 1:03:28
  Tad Eggleston: Over… overwhelmingly clear.
• 1:03:30
  Phil: Thankfully, not the kind you find on Broadway.
• 1:03:34
  Tad Eggleston: Those are fighting words with one of the friends of this podcast.
• 1:03:39
  Phil: That is true. That is me being facetious. Howard, if you're listening, I mean no… I mean no harm.
• 1:03:44
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know if Howard's a big fan of cats, I was thinking of Alexandra Bowman.
• 1:03:49
  Phil: Oh, okay.
• 1:03:51
  Phil: I see.
• 1:03:53
  Phil: I am merely poking fun at cats.
• 1:03:54
  Tad Eggleston: He's cosplayed as a cat.
• 1:03:56
  Phil: That's great! But were they cosplaying as a cat from cats? Yes. Or… okay. Yes. She was very much…
• 1:04:04
  Tad Eggleston: Cosplaying as a cat from CATS.
• 1:04:06
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:04:07
  Phil: Because, you know, there are plenty of people that cosplay as cats just as soon as.
• 1:04:10
  Tad Eggleston: No, I understand, but like… Alexandra is not to be reckoned with.
• 1:04:15
  Phil: That's fair, that's fair. I do not want to, throw hands this early in the morning about it.
• 1:04:20
  Tad Eggleston: Subject idea.
• 1:04:21
  Phil: I'm not well-informed.
• 1:04:24
  Tad Eggleston: That's my point.
• 1:04:25
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:04:26
  Tad Eggleston: I can get away with saying that I'm not a huge Andrew Lloyd Webber fan, that I thought that he brought in the era of the…
• 1:04:36
  Tad Eggleston: the… Let's write an album, and then kind of put a… a story around it, rather than having the…
• 1:04:45
  Tad Eggleston: The songs be an integral part of…
• 1:04:49
  Tad Eggleston: The story that was all, you know…
• 1:04:53
  Tad Eggleston: I can get away with that when talking to her, but, like, messing with cats…
• 1:05:00
  Phil: Woof.
• 1:05:02
  Tad Eggleston: And, you know, it is based on, on… a selection of T.S. Eliot.
• 1:05:07
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 1:05:08
  Tad Eggleston: The poems are fantastic, so, like…
• 1:05:11
  Phil: It's fun to poke fun at, but I don't actually want to offend people.
• 1:05:16
  Phil: about… about making fun of cats. That… that's… I just want to make that clear.
• 1:05:20
  Tad Eggleston: Good kid. Yeah. So, this week's…
• 1:05:24
  Tad Eggleston: great responsibility is mind-blowing works. I'm gonna go ahead and lead off, because…
• 1:05:31
  Tad Eggleston: It took me a while to decide on something, because…
• 1:05:36
  Tad Eggleston: There's so many comics that I think are mind-blowing, and so many comics that…
• 1:05:42
  Tad Eggleston: that, like, even if they don't feel mind… like, when you put sex criminals down, I'm like, yeah, I guess when I read that the first time, it was mind-blowing, but it doesn't feel mind-blowing anymore, because I've read it and re-read it, and, like.
• 1:05:58
  Tad Eggleston: And that's… that's not bashing it, it's certainly not bashing, but what I was really… what I was really looking for was…
• 1:06:06
  Phil: a comic that…
• 1:06:09
  Tad Eggleston: Was both mind-blowing, but never ceases to be mind-blowing.
• 1:06:14
  Phil: Hmm…
• 1:06:15
  Tad Eggleston: that I also hadn't spent much time talking about here or at American Nature Presidents.
• 1:06:23
  Tad Eggleston: came up with was… was my management by Matt Kidd.
• 1:06:28
  Tad Eggleston: Have you read Mind Management?
• 1:06:31
  Phil: I have read the first issue. I picked up the first issue in single issues, and I forget why, I didn't keep reading it, but I'm aware of it, but I have not read the whole thing.
• 1:06:41
  Phil: So I need to.
• 1:06:42
  Tad Eggleston: There are marginal notes.
• 1:06:44
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:06:45
  Tad Eggleston: I mean…
• 1:06:46
  Phil: Yeah. I mean, there were, like, hidden messages on the covers.
• 1:06:50
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, this is the first time that I started to speculate. I mean, I should have brought up my omnibuses that I didn't
• 1:06:59
  Tad Eggleston: club with, and when I book club.
• 1:07:02
  Tad Eggleston: books not for the show, and it's, like, sit-down book clubs where we're really gonna go through stuff together. I tend to put post-it notes on things that I…
• 1:07:11
  Tad Eggleston: I had post-it notes on almost every page. I had 3 post-it notes on some pages.
• 1:07:16
  Phil: Oh, wow, yeah.
• 1:07:18
  Tad Eggleston: Aww. Yeah.
• 1:07:19
  Phil: I've heard nothing but great things, and even if… Like, I can't imagine what Matt had to do to construct it.
• 1:07:27
  Phil: Yeah, I mean, that's…
• 1:07:29
  Tad Eggleston: Totally imagine, like, the murder board all… Yeah.
• 1:07:35
  Phil: He's gonna be like, that's my secret, I always plot.
• 1:07:36
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, there's stories within stories, there's…
• 1:07:42
  Tad Eggleston: Foreshadowing and red herrings, the art is beautiful, the dialogue is beautiful, even if you're not catching
• 1:07:51
  Tad Eggleston: The deepness, you can have fun with it, but, like…
• 1:07:55
  Tad Eggleston: the depth is too obvious not to catch, and then the decision is, are you gonna go all in and try to play the game with them, or are you just gonna read it and enjoy the ride? And you can do either!
• 1:08:11
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, this is… it's a book that I feel like I peel back a new layer every time I read it.
• 1:08:17
  Phil: And that…
• 1:08:18
  Tad Eggleston: -Oh.
• 1:08:19
  Phil: absolutely intrigues me, and is a signpost that I was aware of it before, but now it is… it has jumped from, I should read this, to a must-read, because.
• 1:08:27
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I guess… I guess one of the things I can say, because I also thought of putting, and I'll bring it up.
• 1:08:37
  Tad Eggleston: He did a book called… Red-handed, The Fine Art of Strange Crimes.
• 1:08:48
  Tad Eggleston: Which, to me, is… like… a rough draft of mind management?
• 1:08:57
  Phil: Oh, that's always interesting to find.
• 1:08:59
  Tad Eggleston: Like, condensed into a small town.
• 1:09:06
  Phil: Wow.
• 1:09:07
  Tad Eggleston: You know, so rather than this globetrotting, epic…
• 1:09:13
  Tad Eggleston: Whatever. Like, it's… It's all… condensed into…
• 1:09:25
  Tad Eggleston: One smallish town with a detective, supposedly solving mostly mundane mysteries.
• 1:09:36
  Tad Eggleston: But it doesn't.
• 1:09:39
  Tad Eggleston: stable.
• 1:09:39
  Phil: Thank you.
• 1:09:40
  Phil: Yeah, I haven't read a ton of Matt Kint.
• 1:09:45
  Tad Eggleston: particular… you know, he's kind of like Jeff Lemire. Yeah.
• 1:09:49
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:09:50
  Tad Eggleston: Where when he's writing for somebody else,
• 1:09:54
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 1:09:55
  Tad Eggleston: Though there are definitely people that when he's writing for, it's like, oh, like, he's… he's working with…
• 1:10:01
  Tad Eggleston: with David Lapham coming up.
• 1:10:03
  Phil: Absolutely. Yeah, that's exciting.
• 1:10:06
  Tad Eggleston: Abraham Mustafa coming up. That's exciting. Absolutely. He's worked with, Gabriel Walter in, like.
• 1:10:13
  Phil: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:14
  Tad Eggleston: Right off the bat.
• 1:10:15
  Phil: Walt is incredible. I know he's doing They're All Terrables, and that's been fun.
• 1:10:18
  Tad Eggleston: and don't get me wrong, like, his Valiant stuff is good.
• 1:10:26
  Tad Eggleston: Great superhero comics.
• 1:10:28
  Phil: When he draws for himself, it's next level.
• 1:10:30
  Tad Eggleston: But it's not… I mean, like Lemire and his DC stuff, it… it's not…
• 1:10:39
  Tad Eggleston: He doesn't stand out, stand out when he's doing work for hire and not drawing.
• 1:10:45
  Phil: Yeah… I can… yeah, I can imagine that.
• 1:10:48
  Tad Eggleston: He falls into the category of very good. He, like, he does… never writes anything unreadable, and, like.
• 1:10:55
  Tad Eggleston: or into, like, the given character or whatnot, it's probably one of the best runs on the character. But there is so much super… you know what I mean?
• 1:11:04
  Phil: Yeah, yeah, I absolutely do here.
• 1:11:06
  Tad Eggleston: It's much harder to differentiate yourself in the superhero realm.
• 1:11:12
  Phil: It is. Well, not only that, but, like, there's so much superhero stuff that comes out in any given time period that it's… it's… it's so hard. It… it…
• 1:11:23
  Phil: it's not only is the quality going to vary depending on how much you like the writer and how much you like the character, but it's also going to vary on which artist got assigned to them at that given time, how long they were able to build a story for, all kinds of different things. So yeah, being a head and shoulders standout
• 1:11:42
  Phil: Among superheroes is a very different game from…
• 1:11:45
  Phil: being able to, to do that as creator-owned. Revolver, I see now as, is, that was…
• 1:11:50
  Tad Eggleston: Matt Kid.
• 1:11:51
  Phil: Yeah, the first…
• 1:11:52
  Tad Eggleston: fantastic.
• 1:11:52
  Phil: It was really good. It was the first match. Tyler J.
• 1:11:55
  Tad Eggleston: Tyler Jenkins, when he works with Tyler Jenkins, it's generally very, very…
• 1:11:58
  Phil: I need to read Folklords with Matt Smith, that's one that's really, really intriguing to me.
• 1:12:03
  Tad Eggleston: It's good, I need to reread it.
• 1:12:05
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:12:06
  Tad Eggleston: I was… I was mildly underwhelmed. I had…
• 1:12:09
  Phil: Mmm…
• 1:12:10
  Tad Eggleston: And I actually wonder if they'd wanted to do more, and it just didn't sell well enough.
• 1:12:14
  Phil: Oh, I can see that.
• 1:12:16
  Tad Eggleston: It just felt abrupt. Super spy.
• 1:12:19
  Phil: I mean, that's, I think, part of the…
• 1:12:21
  Tad Eggleston: the…
• 1:12:22
  Phil: Me either.
• 1:12:23
  Tad Eggleston: Part of the MAG Management The ether's good.
• 1:12:26
  Phil: Yeah, with
• 1:12:27
  Phil: with David Rubin, that's… that's another series I've read most of, I don't think I read the last.
• 1:12:31
  Phil: series or two, but…
• 1:12:33
  Tad Eggleston: So yeah, I mean, we're talking just…
• 1:12:38
  Phil: Yeah, he's done so much. That's the other thing that's difficult when, you know.
• 1:12:42
  Tad Eggleston: So little of it is anything other than great.
• 1:12:46
  Phil: Yeah!
• 1:12:48
  Phil: I, I will say, you're, you're…
• 1:12:50
  Tad Eggleston: Like, his, his, his low threshold is very, very good.
• 1:12:56
  Phil: Yeah, right, yeah. I know what you mean.
• 1:13:00
  Tad Eggleston: You know what I mean?
• 1:13:01
  Phil: Right.
• 1:13:03
  Phil: Oh, and I've read, the Frankenstein Agent of Shade, film…
• 1:13:07
  Phil: It was fine. It was one that got canceled pretty quick, so that was kind of a bummer, because I was like, oh, this was one of the weirder books.
• 1:13:16
  Tad Eggleston: with him and Jeff Lemire.
• 1:13:18
  Phil: Yeah, I think Jeff Lemire started it out, and then.
• 1:13:20
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:13:21
  Phil: he picked it up right before it got canceled. But it was fun.
• 1:13:24
  Tad Eggleston: The only person to draw any, sweet tooth.
• 1:13:30
  Phil: Yep, that too, yeah. No, wait, I think… no, no, that was a special issue. That was a special issue, so that's why. That doesn't count. But yeah, he did… he did regular Shoes of Sweet Tooth, one of the flashback arcs, yeah. So, I was gonna say, though, you're… you're…
• 1:13:43
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, mind management is another, and I haven't…
• 1:13:51
  Tad Eggleston: Still there, Kat?
• 1:13:53
  Phil: Oh, I thought… I didn't know if, you were gonna say.
• 1:13:56
  Tad Eggleston: But, yeah, I'm here.
• 1:13:57
  Phil: I was gonna say, okay, okay, I was gonna say that your standard of, having something that's mind-blowing, that continues to be mind-blowing, it's, it's a… that's a huge, that's a high, high bar, which is why I'm definitely intrigued to pick up Mind Management.
• 1:14:10
  Phil: But it's… Honestly, one of the few…
• 1:14:15
  Phil: comics I can think of that do that is, like, The Filth by Grant Morrison, or… I mean, honestly, Grant Morrison's stuff tends to be that way for me, but even then, it's…
• 1:14:24
  Phil: So, like, specifically, the reason I chose Sex Criminals over Providence is because I've only read through Providence once, and while it did blow my mind, it completely shifted my sense of consciousness when I read it.
• 1:14:35
  Phil: I questioned whether I'd have that experience a second time or not, you know? And I wanted to do something a little more lighthearted after last times was, you know, the super dark, cursed text, fucked up book, so…
• 1:14:45
  Phil: Sex Criminals is, my pick for a mind-blowing work. This was… I mean, it's also… it's also a double entendre, a different kind of mind-blowing work. But yeah, I… I absolutely loved this book, when it came out. I jumped on from issue one.
• 1:15:00
  Phil: It is the book that fully made me a lifelong Matt Fraction fan. He was someone whose work I had, at Marvel, I had, you know.
• 1:15:11
  Phil: seen some of, not read all of, had ups and downs, you know, was… but it didn't… it didn't solidify me for him. But, this, Sex Criminals, oh, smashed out of the park. I… I… that's where I first was like, oh, this guy's funny. He does humor.
• 1:15:29
  Phil: Okay, that's… and that was kind of the way in to the rest of his work, is seeing the humor and the lightheartedness made the more mind-bending stuff more appealing. And again, it's also the book that if… if I hadn't read this, I wouldn't be the person I am today. It, you know, it helped me through a difficult, lonely time in my life, and I think it's absolutely fitting that it is the
• 1:15:51
  Phil: You know, the second book in my comic collection that my wife found, and then started reading on her own.
• 1:15:58
  Phil: Because it's the kind of book that I was so tempted to, like, recommend to her, because I told her about it, and I was like, honey, this is one of my favorite books of all time. It means so much to me.
• 1:16:10
  Phil: you will read it one day, but I don't want to pressure you and force it on you and tell you how great, how much you're gonna love it. But then when she discovered it herself and read it herself, and she absolutely loved it, I was like, okay, validation.
• 1:16:22
  Phil: You know? It's just… It's such a perfect combination of humorous and heartwarming and deep, the character work.
• 1:16:34
  Phil: I love even the way the series ends in how it is simultaneously about the end of the story and how stories end in a general way that is so, so unique.
• 1:16:47
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and in Issue 69.
• 1:16:49
  Phil: Yes, exactly.
• 1:16:50
  Tad Eggleston: Issue 69. Yeah!
• 1:16:52
  Phil: It's also the only series that I've bought… I've bought A and B covers for. I got all the, the, the, X-rated covers that they did that were…
• 1:17:00
  Tad Eggleston: Whereas I only bought the B covers.
• 1:17:03
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah.
• 1:17:03
  Phil: I could go back and get the A covers. Yeah.
• 1:17:07
  Tad Eggleston: Did… did… Were you one of the sad sap letters at the back?
• 1:17:11
  Tad Eggleston: Unfortunately, no! Do I need to go back and look?
• 1:17:14
  Phil: No, I never, I never appeared in the pages of Letter Daddies, so I did not…
• 1:17:19
  Tad Eggleston: That was also one of the things that made this book.
• 1:17:22
  Phil: Yeah, 100%, the letters column fucking made this book. I mean, yeah.
• 1:17:26
  Tad Eggleston: Sex Criminals Like Saga is almost interactive.
• 1:17:30
  Phil: Yeah, it's the… it's the greatest letters column I've ever seen. I shudder to think that it could ever be topped. That's how great it is.
• 1:17:37
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, see, whereas I… I… I put Saga right there with it already.
• 1:17:45
  Phil: That's fair. That's a good one, too. That's… it's…
• 1:17:48
  Phil: Saga's great, that was… I've definitely responded to the… the reader survey in Saga.
• 1:17:52
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:17:54
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah… Yeah, I accidentally muted my microphone.
• 1:18:01
  Phil: Oh!
• 1:18:02
  Tad Eggleston: I didn't manage to do as many interjections in there as I might have. I see.
• 1:18:07
  Tad Eggleston: what I was… was trying to say before you jumped in on sex criminals.
• 1:18:12
  Phil: Oh, sorry.
• 1:18:12
  Tad Eggleston: Thank you for doing that, because I muted the microphone and not figured it out, so we would have had way more dead space. Is that,
• 1:18:21
  Tad Eggleston: There are definitely other series that, like, Saga amazes every time.
• 1:18:27
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 1:18:27
  Tad Eggleston: Sex Criminals amazes every time. Like, mind management is the… isn't the only one that gets better every time I read it. Yeah.
• 1:18:38
  Tad Eggleston: But I guess there's something between…
• 1:18:41
  Tad Eggleston: To me, there's a difference between
• 1:18:44
  Tad Eggleston: Getting better, and amazing, and mind-blowing.
• 1:18:47
  Phil: There is. There absolutely is.
• 1:18:49
  Tad Eggleston: Sex Criminals was mind-blowing when I read Volume 1, but it wasn't even mind-blowing
• 1:18:58
  Tad Eggleston: Issue to issue. To me.
• 1:19:00
  Phil: Yeah. After that.
• 1:19:03
  Tad Eggleston: You know…
• 1:19:04
  Phil: It was, again, it was for me primarily. The letters column was.
• 1:19:07
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I mean, there were moments… there were moments that were.
• 1:19:11
  Phil: The criminal issue?
• 1:19:13
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, no, no, there were totally moments that were.
• 1:19:17
  Phil: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:20
  Phil: I guess, so for me, the other.
• 1:19:21
  Tad Eggleston: Not in that… I mean, I guess… I guess I kind of used mind-blowing as mind-twisting?
• 1:19:27
  Phil: Mmm…
• 1:19:28
  Tad Eggleston: You know, as mind-blowing as broke my brain.
• 1:19:33
  Tad Eggleston: And continues to break my brain.
• 1:19:36
  Phil: Right, and so… and I took Mind Blowing as mind expanding, because this is one…
• 1:19:41
  Tad Eggleston: That works. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:42
  Phil: Yeah, because this helped expand what comics could be for me, this helped expand what sex could be for me.
• 1:19:48
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and either one of them is absolutely accurate.
• 1:19:53
  Tad Eggleston: Like, again, none of this was, was, like, why shouldn't have picked that? It was so…
• 1:19:57
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:19:59
  Tad Eggleston: Trying to, like, define what… I mean, again, part of it was, like, I wanted… I've talked about so many books… I mean, 700.
• 1:20:07
  Phil: oddest.
• 1:20:08
  Tad Eggleston: episodes in. I've talked about so many books so many times.
• 1:20:13
  Phil: I'm sure that angle may…
• 1:20:16
  Tad Eggleston: wanted.
• 1:20:16
  Phil: harder for you.
• 1:20:16
  Tad Eggleston: try to pick something that I didn't feel like I talked about a lot.
• 1:20:20
  Phil: Yep.
• 1:20:21
  Tad Eggleston: Both Mind Managen and Sex Criminals are books that I want to book club at some point.
• 1:20:26
  Phil: Hell yeah. I… I would be… I would be very intrigued on both of those.
• 1:20:31
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I'm kind of hoping that the Saga Book Club will, will, will…
• 1:20:35
  Phil: Turn into?
• 1:20:36
  Tad Eggleston: rolling into…
• 1:20:38
  Phil: I mean, that's…
• 1:20:39
  Tad Eggleston: series after that.
• 1:20:40
  Phil: That would be a heck of a crew to talk about sex criminals with, you know?
• 1:20:43
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. It would be a heck of a crew to talk about mind management as well.
• 1:20:47
  Phil: it would.
• 1:20:47
  Tad Eggleston: Also.
• 1:20:48
  Phil: Because the reason why I had… I bought the A and B covers is because I would, you know, cherish them both, but the A covers were the ones that my mom would read.
• 1:20:58
  Tad Eggleston: That's fair. Yeah. That's fair.
• 1:21:05
  Tad Eggleston: I got a busy day, and we still have.
• 1:21:10
  Phil: We can make… we can make the hour and a half.
• 1:21:11
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, we still need to record the drops, so, let's move into books we hope will be spectacular. It's actually kind of a light week for…
• 1:21:24
  Tad Eggleston: Single issues.
• 1:21:26
  Phil: Yeah, I imagine… Fifth week.
• 1:21:29
  Tad Eggleston: Week for collections.
• 1:21:32
  Phil: It is a fifth week. Fifth weeks usually do turn out.
• 1:21:34
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:21:36
  Tad Eggleston: Unless there's a fifth week event, or unless they.
• 1:21:39
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:21:39
  Tad Eggleston: go light on week one. There's a million different…
• 1:21:43
  Tad Eggleston: But I am gonna, like, I still had 3… 3 definite…
• 1:21:52
  Tad Eggleston: definite ones that I hope will be spectacular. First is Facing Feelings Inside the World of Raina Telgemeyer, the, exhibit book from her Billie Ireland…
• 1:22:05
  Tad Eggleston: Exhibit from… Last year, I think? Maybe the year before?
• 1:22:14
  Tad Eggleston: out from Scholastic. It was the first time they ever, ever gave both of their exhibit rooms to the same exhibit, was for Raina Telgemeyer.
• 1:22:23
  Tad Eggleston: Because one room just wasn't enough.
• 1:22:26
  Tad Eggleston: So I'm very much looking… I loved the exhibit. I'm very much looking forward to,
• 1:22:32
  Tad Eggleston: Going through the book. It's actually on Hoopla already,
• 1:22:36
  Tad Eggleston: which I may flip through, but I… I get to see Raina in conversation with Lucy… Lucy Nisely.
• 1:22:44
  Phil: That's gonna be amazing.
• 1:22:45
  Tad Eggleston: Amazing.
• 1:22:46
  Tad Eggleston: In a couple of weeks, and that's where I'll get my physical copy of the book.
• 1:22:51
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 1:22:52
  Phil: That's gonna be a spectacular event.
• 1:22:54
  Tad Eggleston: That's why we had to reschedule Saga.
• 1:22:57
  Phil: Yeah. Yeah, understood, yeah.
• 1:23:01
  Phil: Either of those people, much less both?
• 1:23:04
  Tad Eggleston: R-right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:23:07
  Tad Eggleston: So,
• 1:23:09
  Tad Eggleston: Next, I have loved the Godzilla vs. America stories, and we now have Godzilla vs. Kansas City!
• 1:23:17
  Tad Eggleston: with Freddie Williams, Baldemar Rivas, Jake Smith, and Buster Moody contributing. And we're gonna do a Batman double feature, because,
• 1:23:29
  Tad Eggleston: Both Batman and Robin Year 1 and Batman The Last Halloween are wrapping up this week. Final issues of both of them, Mark Waite and Chris Samney on Year 1, Jeff Loeb, and for this issue, Matteo Scalera, but it's been 10 issues, 10 artists,
• 1:23:48
  Tad Eggleston: Because the idea of replacing Tim Sale with just one person just, like…
• 1:23:55
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:23:55
  Tad Eggleston: Nobody was willing to do that.
• 1:23:57
  Phil: No, I don't blame them.
• 1:24:01
  Tad Eggleston: So those both wrap up, those both have been fantastic series. So yeah, big collection that I do want to call out, anybody who hasn't read it. Well, a couple of them that I want to call out.
• 1:24:14
  Tad Eggleston: Ballad of Halo Jones, the full-color omnibus. Halo Jones is one of Alan Moore's early works, one of my favorite works of his, and the coloring job by Barbara Nesenzo on this is just outstanding.
• 1:24:27
  Phil: It would have been in black and white before.
• 1:24:29
  Tad Eggleston: And I've read it in black and white.
• 1:24:31
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:24:33
  Tad Eggleston: Ian Gibson's line art is also outstanding. This is, it's another one of those Alan Moore projects that never really got finished, kind of like big numbers.
• 1:24:48
  Tad Eggleston: Thankfully few times.
• 1:24:50
  Tad Eggleston: What?
• 1:24:50
  Phil: I was saying, thankfully, a few of those in his… in his career, but…
• 1:24:55
  Tad Eggleston: couple of times he's… he's… he's, like, laid out the overall plan and, like, talks or whatnot, and I'm like…
• 1:25:02
  Phil: Yeah. It's criminal.
• 1:25:04
  Tad Eggleston: Criminal.
• 1:25:04
  Phil: unfinished work.
• 1:25:06
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah, The Ballad of Halo Jones, might be my favorite Alan Moore. It's really between that and Jack B. Quick.
• 1:25:15
  Phil: Neverm.
• 1:25:15
  Tad Eggleston: my favorite Ellen Moore works.
• 1:25:17
  Tad Eggleston: Also available this week in collected edition, Who Are the Power Pals? from Dwayne Murray and Ahmad Rafat, with Rob Jones on color at Dark Horse. This was such a fun book.
• 1:25:30
  Tad Eggleston: I highly, highly recommend it. So… Phil, what is… Your trade waiter, graphic novel.
• 1:25:38
  Phil: My trade waiter pick is Department of Truth, Volume 6, another James Tynan, series with art from Letizia Katanici and Martin Simmons, Geordie Belair, Letters by Aditya Biddikar, Image Comics. I've only read Volume 1 of this series, but it was really great.
• 1:25:57
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, it's amazing.
• 1:25:59
  Phil: And that's.
• 1:25:59
  Tad Eggleston: mind.
• 1:26:01
  Tad Eggleston: But, but I, I have all the single issues.
• 1:26:03
  Phil: Yeah, it's another one. I mean, it's… talk about… this is… this one was… was an incredible horror without being…
• 1:26:11
  Phil: visually over the top. In terms of gore and violence. This was pure, like, terror.
• 1:26:19
  Phil: disturbing, like, oh, the star-faced man was creepy. Creepy as all get out. But yeah, really incredible series I need to catch up on one day. Lots of other good trades. It might be a slow week for single issues, but I did see a good amount of good trades coming out, so…
• 1:26:33
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, this was a really… Particularly collection-heavy week.
• 1:26:40
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah, I think that that is it for episode 207.
• 1:26:46
  Tad Eggleston: For… for Phil, this is… this is… I hate introducing myself. This is Tad, this has been 22 Panels, and we will see you…
• 1:26:59
  Tad Eggleston: After the next page.