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Good morning. You are possibly watching DeProgram
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with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas. If Rumble studio
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is cooperative. I'm not seeing anybody on
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YouTube right now. Let's see how that's looking.
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I see people chatting, so we've got humans. Oh
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my god, and there's Jamarl Thomas. You've got a JT
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back. Everything is back the way it's supposed
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to be. Good morning to you. How are you? I'm doing
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fine, but I think I'm behaving poorly. At the
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very least, it was on my show. But we'll see.
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You just froze for a half second there. God damn
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it. Okay, let me do this. Let me restart. Start
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the show. I'm going to diagnose to figure out
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what's going on with the network. Okay, I'm literally
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going to hit it. I'm just going to re-hit the
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thing. I'm starting from scratch. Here we go.
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Okay. All right. Three, two, one. Good morning,
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you're watching or listening to or otherwise
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absorbing DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl
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Thomas for Thursday, October 29th, 2026. Thank
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you so much for joining us, supporting the show.
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Welcome back, Jamarl, from your vacation to your
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secret undisclosed location with Dick Cheney.
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We have a lot to talk about today. I know Jamarl
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looks a little bit frozen. I think he's probably
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rebooting right now or trying to. We have, among
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other things, a replay of the Cold War. He's
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including one second. Okay. All right. There
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goes Jamarl. All right. In a replay of the Cold
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War. Right-wing presidential candidate Flavio
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Bolsonaro fled Brazil to go into exile in Miami,
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which is really strange. He was ordered to surrender
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his passport to a Brazilian court. He says he
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arrived in Florida, thanked Trump for taking
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him in, and said, hey, I'm the real leader. Well,
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I was going to say real president, but real leader,
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he said, of Brazil. And he said he wants to lead
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the Brazilian opposition from exile, presumably
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in the United States. So is Trump plotting regime
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change in the biggest country in Latin America?
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That's the big question today. Also in a wild
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conspiracy story. The New York Times reports
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that all those Democratic denials out of the
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Alaska campaign of Mary Peltola, that she had
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anything to do with recruiting a sort of nobody
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Dan Sullivan in order to confuse voters and peel
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support away from the real GOP incumbent, Senator
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Dan Sullivan. Those were lies. It turns out that,
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in fact, the Democratic Party plotted and schemed
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to mess with the Alaska ballot. We'll talk about
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the political implications of that, both in terms
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of the nation's 50th state and also how it affects
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the midterms in general. I would say this is
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the October surprise. We're not expecting, but
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that's why it's an October surprise. And I know,
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Robby and Jamarl, you'll both agree with me,
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it's time to finally ban football. Three out
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of four retired NFL players who died between
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2008 and 2023 had CTE from repeated head hits,
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most likely. It's a new study. That's a much
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bigger number than we thought. We thought it
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was one out of four. This is not just people
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who basically volunteered to have their brains
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cut into. This was all retired NFL players during
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this 15-year period. Over one million kids play
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football in the United States every year, more
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among working class and lower income people than
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in others. So do we want our most disadvantaged
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kids to be bashing their brains out? So anyway,
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good morning, Jamarl. I hope your internet is
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working well. Do you want to tell us where you
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were for the last few days? Yeah, it's not working
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out that well. I mean, it was very screwed up.
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I think we just lost him again. It was screwed
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up this morning. Yeah, it was going back and
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forth. I wasn't really anywhere. And I got to
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be honest, I didn't even take the time off per
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se. I was still working. I was still putting
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up videos. You did staycation that wasn't staycation?
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Yeah, basically. I mean, I did interviews on
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Tuesday. I still had content that needed to be
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cut for the weekend. So yeah, even though it
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was just me not on air, it wasn't necessarily
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me going anywhere. Because the other thing was
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also, it's so expensive to go anywhere. And for
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example, when I used to travel before, I would
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book a place for about $500 for the month. And
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then I would have other expenses, but the rent
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was about $500. It would have been cheaper to
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go to Jamaica, pay the flight, pay to stay, than
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it was to go to somewhere like, I don't know,
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let's say a cabin in the woods, which is what
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I want. In the woods, just by myself, not to
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be bothered with anybody. I don't even know if
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I would have had internet access. That was very
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expensive. And so I figured if I'm going to take
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a trip, take a real one, where you can go somewhere
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and stay for much longer, all that money for
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four or five days. Yeah, no, I mean, I noticed
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that there was a time years ago that I was renting
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my house during the summer. And I found that
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basically the right move is to go, even if the
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airplane ticket is expensive, go someplace where
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living is cheap and stay there for like four
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to six weeks. And just, you know, if you can
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live for $40 a day, even if it costs you two
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grand to get there, that's okay because you're
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going to be fine. And it's true. I mean, it's
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crazy. I travel a lot to Ohio because I still
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have family there. And going to Ohio and staying
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at a Marriott or a Springfield Suites or whatever,
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it costs like $240 a night for a Marriott or
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whatever. It's like there's just no... there's
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no there's not a lot of cheap options anymore
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and even if you want to you know you want to
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stay you want to go more downscale and you stay
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at Motel 6 or but it's still 100 bucks you
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know. It's not cheap. No it's not. It's
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expensive. By the way that's what I did
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so when the network went belly up and it
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was like oh god I no longer have a job what am
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I going to do and it's still on my channel so
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I was still working on the channel but it was
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kind of like how am I going to make this work
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and it was like okay well I'll pay the money
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for the airline ticket to leave. It's like you
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save money for the month even if you had to pay
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for the airline ticket and even in jumping to
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Malaysia it was the same thing. It was like okay
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the airline ticket is going to be I don't know
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three four hundred dollars but the apartment
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that I'm going to stay at is like 400 if you
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stay for three months. You save money. You save
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thousands of dollars. It was that logic. And
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that was why I was traveling. It was going from
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place to place to place, not because I was balling,
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but because I was poor in the locations that
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I was jumping to. I heard about you doing that
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at the time. I thought that's pretty brilliant,
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actually. It wasn't on purpose. Keep
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in mind, from my point of view, I was like, I'm
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47 or 48. I'm old. This is just waiting for death.
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And then it was like, hey, it's kind of cheaper
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to do that. Somewhere else. And then I even told
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my mom, I was like, you realize the travel bug
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is probably going to bite somewhere within a
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month or so, right? Meaning I'm not coming
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back anytime soon. Yeah, I would have kept going.
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My next location that was booked was
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Batumi, Georgia. And if it wasn't for me getting
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sick, I would have been in Georgia for another
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three months and then for another location for
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another three months etc. You're like an ordinary
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German backpacker. Yeah well I had to take my
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camera and all. JT you get you have a lot of packet
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loss. Try resetting your router. Unplug your router
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first and then your modem and then plug it back
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in. That one air and it's plugged
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into internet and so it's like there's no way
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for me to do that while we're online. Oh no you
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have to go off but I can back carry your
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water. And while that happens, if you want. Sure.
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Okay. Thank you. We'll keep the needle moving
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while you're away. And we'll ban football. Okay.
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All right. Ted, you're jihad against football.
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That's true. Well, we all have to have our jihad.
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But one thing you got to think about, you know,
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these people who, you know, who died with CTE.
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I'm not a football fan. I'm agnostic on it. They
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were getting their brains bashed in before the
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new helmets and the new safety protocols. So
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they are reflective of what used to be, not what
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is now. Those are two very different things.
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That's good logic. And it's true. However, you
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know, according to most experts,
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the new helmets don't really make a significant
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impact. Because it's your brain, your brain is
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banging around. The helmet doesn't, you know,
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it might protect your skull from the outside
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of your skull from getting bruised, but it's
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not changing the impact. Well, that's why I'm
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not allowed to just ram each other in the face
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anymore like you used to be able to either. Well,
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that's true too. But it just sort of seems
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to me like, okay, if it's a bad idea to beat
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the shit out of yourself, beating the shit out
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of yourself at a 60% rate of previous doesn't
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still seem like a great idea. Well, tell you
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what, I really don't think this football
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thing really is going to matter a whole lot at
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the end of the day, but I will concede to banning
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football if you follow the Robby bottle with
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drug dealers. If we can do those two things,
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but of the two of them. Just shooting them? Well,
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of the two, honestly, which one is the
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bigger social issue? Oh, I think they're equivalent.
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If you have 1.1 million American kids,
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pretty much all boys, playing football at any given time and you have obviously
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men, tens of millions of Americans addicted
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to drugs, they're both major issues. Yeah but the
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thing is but of the two of them which one
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tends to lead to more crime, is flesh eating
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zombie disease, people walking in front
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of cars. Of the two of them which one is
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more dangerous? Even you, in your tiny little
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itsy-bitsy communist heart, you've got to admit
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that you've got to, especially if you're going
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to run for the show. Drugs are a major problem.
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It's true. You've got to lean towards Team Robby
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on this. Well, I do hate drugs. I have
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to say that. As a nod to the communist revolution.
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I would be great with banning most drugs. I just
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don't think that they should be criminalized
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the way that we've been fighting the war on drugs.
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That was a catastrophe. Ray wants to know if
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you'd ban hockey. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, for sure.
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Okay, what's the list of stuff that you wouldn't
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ban? I think that's probably going to be a lot
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shorter. That's going to be shorter. I think
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baseball is okay, even though there's dangers.
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Are you kidding? Baseball is incredibly dangerous.
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You can be hurt. It's not that
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dangerous. Rugby, not that we really play rugby
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in the United States, but it probably should
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be banned as well. We can go on. Hey,
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so let's do some, hey, Robby, Massive
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8 says, drug dealers are victims of poverty.
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Yeah, one of the things that creates poverty
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is the crime. And what's one of the major crime
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factors? It's drugs. But the broken windows theory
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is real. It's unpopular things to, that's
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unpopular for people to admit, but it is true.
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And drugs is a major factor in that. No one's
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going to move into a place to start a business
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if you're going to get robbed or looted because
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some meth head wants to go in and just get a
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quick fix. That's a fact. Or if you try
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to set up a little grocery store, crime is a
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factor. And let's be honest here, drugs is a
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major driver of that. That's unpopular. It's
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probably racist to say. I don't know how, but
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it is. But it doesn't make any less true. I'm
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all about helping society as a whole. And one
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of the ways you do that is that you get the poison
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out of the system. You don't negotiate with the
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cancer, you kill it. Drug is the cancer. All
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right. So let's see. Oh, I want to thank Ray
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for gifting a subscription to the show. That's
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something you can do, too. If you already subscribe
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and you're supporting the show that way, but
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you're inclined to spread the word and also to
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supplement your support. You can gift a subscription
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on Rumble to someone else. Can you do that on
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YouTube? I'm not even sure. Not that I know of.
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Matteo, Ted, he has a question for you. I guess
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it's a he. Would you ban golf since golf courses
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use more water than data centers? Yeah, golf
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courses are very wasteful. One of those things
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that a socialist president. But would you ban
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it? Yeah. Hugo Chavez of Venezuela banned golf.
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He had all of the golf clubs and courses in the
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country converted to public parks so that ordinary
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Venezuelans could enjoy them instead of having
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these beautiful spaces be off limits. And he
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allowed them to overgrow and have natural plants.
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Oh, Jamarl, you look better. Much better. Thank
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you. I'm back. Yeah. There's nothing like having
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a stylish black man who comes in crystal clear
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resolution. I'll go back to the back now. I was
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hoping to make an impression with my haircut
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today, but I guess no one noticed. No one cares
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about your haircut. But Ted, no, seriously. I
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mean, we know what you would ban. Give me the
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list of stuff that you would not ban. That would
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be more interesting. This is only a one-hour
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show. Okay, so let's go back to where we were.
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We had a little rough start with Jamarl's tech
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aspect. All right, so we're going to be talking
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about Bolsonaro fleeing into exile in Florida,
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which had shades of the Shah of Iran, shades
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of Somoza. It didn't work out that well in Florida
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for him, as I recall. This weird Dan Sullivan
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times two conspiracy story in Alaska and the
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CTE story. What do you want to talk about first?
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Let's start with CTE. Okay. All right. Robby
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and I were already talking about that. So basically,
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here is the scoop. We have, oh my god, I thought
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I had pulled this up, all the details here. Oh,
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I guess I forgot to save them. That's brilliant.
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Maybe because I have CTE. Anyway, previous studies
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showed that the three out of four retired NFL
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players who had volunteered to participate in
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a study after they died had CTE. Now it
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turns out it's three out of four of all between
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2008 and 2023 in the general population there's
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a near zero rate of CTE. And there's a class
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aspect to this. Most football
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is still popular. Over one million American high
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school kids play football every year, but it's
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skewed more toward working class and
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lower middle class kids rather
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than in the more elite areas where people are
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better educated and presumably more worried about
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CTE. Parents don't let their kids play football.
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I think honestly I know I'm early on this. I was
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calling for smoking to be banned back in the
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80s. That pretty much happened and it turned
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out to be good for society. I'm just early on
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this. Just like I told everyone on September
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12th, 2001, we shouldn't invade Afghanistan.
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Everyone's like, fuck you, Ted Rall. You're an
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asshole. Now everyone knows that I was right.
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I say this is one of those things. In 20 years,
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everyone will have always been against football.
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We all knew it was bad. Thank god we banned it.
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We saved a new generation. That's where we need
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to be. We just need to get ahead of it because
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it kills. It's literally breaking people's brains.
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As long as there's a Super Bowl, there will be
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football. Now, if they get rid of, I'll stand
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on that. I'll stand on that. Maybe you're right
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in 20 years. Maybe you're right. I would say
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as long as there's a Super Bowl, and the Super
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Bowl is the largest sporting event in the United
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States, there will be football in the United
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States. That CTE thing is nice. I accept it.
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You don't think it's catastrophic that if
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you play this game professionally, you will
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almost certainly end up breaking your brain.
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But this goes into, do people have the choice
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to do that? Meaning, basically, what they're
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exchanging is... Or should they have the choice?
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Yeah. Should they have the choice? No. If the
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sport found the choice for it. And the sport
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has negative consequences for health. What I
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suspect they try to do, if anything, is try to
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figure out a way to play the sport without the
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injury. That's what they're going to try to do.
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This is kind of like. Oh, I'm all for that. That
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would be preferred. It would be like porn and
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sexual diseases. They were like, hey, this porn
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thing is creating gonorrhea amongst the Californian
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crowd that is into creating porn. But their response
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wasn't we should get rid of it. Their response
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was we need testing. We need condoms. We need
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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Meaning people
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are going to keep their advice. They're just
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going to find ways to try to do that advice.
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Same thing. It's going to be true about football.
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They're probably going to try to find ways. Maybe
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we need more padding. Maybe we need more head
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cushions. Maybe we need to make certain hits
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illegal. Change the rules. Yeah, change the rules.
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We have boxing, right? And they used to have
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bare knuckle boxing. People used to punch
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people in the face with their bare knuckles.
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And what they'd say, hey, maybe we need gloves.
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Maybe we need padding in the gloves. They kept
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their bites. They didn't get rid of the bites.
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Well, okay, so I'm totally cool if they can,
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if it can still be football to the point
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that people would still be interested in it.
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And the rules change to all professional
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sports all the time. Right. So, if
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they change the rules to the point to make it
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safer. But, porn is a good example
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that you brought up, right? They tried condoms.
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Turns out that nobody wants to watch porn with
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condoms. So there's no demand for it. So basically
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that didn't work. So, repeated testing
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turned out to be a more effective way to save
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the porn industry. The real danger
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to the porn industry is the Internet. And,
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it's like when about home taping remember home tape that
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all the people who taped
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records onto cassette tapes and it was like home
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taping is killing music and it was like there
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were and there were jokey t-shirts that said
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home fucking is killing born and it's kind of true. If every jackass
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and a GoPro camera can
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film themselves having sex with their wife and
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then make a few, they're nibbling like
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ducks away at the professionals who are trying
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to do this full time. That's the best form. Oh,
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I agree. I agree. It's the, I'm not a communist,
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but it's the communist in me that has a hard
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time watching regular porn. Because to me, it's
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kind of like going to McDonald's and the person
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has a shirt on that says, I'm so happy to help
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you today. And I'm thinking the company is forcing
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this person to say this, meaning they're
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forcing this out of the person by putting it
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on their body. The person doesn't think that
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the person is at a low end job at a company that
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they probably don't want and they probably will
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be at home. Right. And yet, hey, it's happy to
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see you and everything else. It's idiocracy.
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Like, welcome to Costco. I love you. Right. It's
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that. Right. And so it's like for porn, it's
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like, guy. And for me, it's what's in our head.
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What's in her head matters and it's like okay
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well she's just paid to have sex with a guy that's
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not really as opposed to she this is her husband
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who she loves. Yes this is her husband who
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she loves the boyfriend who she cares about. This
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is something that she's into. She's not being
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paid to do it even though she's taking money
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for it but they're doing it because they enjoy
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doing it. This is just you peering into their
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lives. There's a difference in those things.
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Oh I couldn't agree more. Yeah. I just find
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the difference and yeah back in the day they
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called that amateur porn. I don't know if they
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still call it that but. Yeah, but I guess I feel
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it's the same allegory. It's very similar to
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me. It's like, okay, these people are in a sport.
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They're making a choice to do this particular
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sport because they're getting paid magnificently
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well for doing the sport. But it's killing them.
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Okay, the public loves the sport. Billions are
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made on that sport. There must be ways to look.
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It's the tackles, right, that are really
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at fault here. Look, I'm not a football fan. But I've got to say, to me, when
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I do watch football, because I'm American, I've
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been subjected to hundreds of hours of forced
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football watching, I would say, to me, the running
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and the throwing are far more interesting than
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the tackles. When you're as a visual spectator
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of the sport, there might be a way to reduce
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the impacts or the frequency of the tackling
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and still have it be an interesting sport. But
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that's part of the game. Was it Joe Montana?
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Or was it Brett Favre? I forget which one. No,
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it's not Joe Montana. It was with... What's his
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name? What's his name? I think it was with San
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Francisco 49ers where he kept getting hit and
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he doesn't even remember the game. No, it's Dallas
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Cowboys. Troy Aikman. I think it's Troy Aikman.
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Troy Aikman, if you ask him, he doesn't
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even remember the game that he played in. You're
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making my point for me, JT. I know, right? So
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I do get it. I guess I'm saying tackling is,
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that's part of the game. Hitting somebody
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viciously is also, when Lawrence Taylor was hitting,
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I forget the name of the quarterback, that hit
24:16
is iconic. He, you know, he tries to throw
24:20
the ball. He doesn't see him coming from behind,
24:21
pulls the hand, he drops the ball, takes the
24:24
hit, and the crowd loses their mind. And where's
24:28
that QB now? In a convalescent home? Oh, I don't
24:34
know. He was out of his mind. He legit
24:36
didn't remember the game. If you ask them today.
24:40
Yeah. But people enjoy it. For me, the fact
24:48
that it's big business means nothing. To me,
24:51
the fact that it's a,
24:53
the people enjoy it means nothing. People
24:56
enjoy gladiatorial combat. If it was on, I would
24:59
watch it. People made business from all
25:03
sorts of evil things. They still do. War. All
25:08
these things should be banned. I accept that.
25:14
But there's a difference between people who make
25:17
a business out of, let's say, selling heroin.
25:19
That's a very specific business. The heroin person
25:23
gets the money. The people who are using the
25:26
heroin effectively die, lose their teeth and
25:29
everything else. But they're making a choice,
25:31
Robby would say. You know, it's their decision
25:35
and they're living their best life as their teeth
25:38
fall. Oh, hell no. Robby would not say that.
25:40
Robby would say you do not have the choice to
25:42
destroy yourselves in a way that everyone else
25:45
has to pay for. No, you don't get to do that.
25:48
You do not get to do that. No, I'm talking about
25:50
drugs in this case. No, the analogy is heroin,
25:54
right? I'm trying to make the difference between
25:56
heroin where an individual person gets a high,
26:00
even though the person is dying, versus football
26:03
where you get, I don't know, back in it, they're
26:09
going to care less about the players. Let's
26:11
be honest, right? This society accepts a lot
26:15
of stuff that other people are paying for, meaning we're paying for it or we're willing
26:20
to pay the money for it. And so policy is a really
26:27
good example of that, right? The people who are
26:29
mining gold, people don't often ask, hey, where
26:33
does this gold chain around my neck come from?
26:35
Where does this diamond come from? They just
26:37
accept it and move on. Maybe they should, agreed.
26:39
But oftentimes they don't. They don't. How's
26:43
my food being prepared? So the cow that is being
26:45
tortured or the pig that's being tortured, they
26:47
don't give a shit about that. They just care
26:50
about the steak and the ham that they effectively
26:51
get and that they're going to eat at their fast
26:53
food joint or wherever they're going to get it
26:55
from. The people who are working in these fast
26:57
food jobs, the Uber jobs. Those people are getting
27:01
paid a pittance, and yet we still do it. I'm
27:03
trying to say we do all sorts of shit, but we
27:05
don't care about the downstream effects of those
27:07
things. I was against Uber and Lyft. I think
27:12
they should be banned. They solved a non-existent
27:15
problem. There were taxis before. There are still
27:18
taxis. We don't need them. If that was true,
27:21
then they wouldn't exist. They made ordering
27:27
a taxi easier. That's all they did. That's a
27:31
non-existing problem. It's not a big problem.
27:36
Yeah, Ted, but come on. The business
27:38
wouldn't exist if the business didn't solve a
27:40
problem that people were having. If I'm traveling
27:42
abroad, I can't speak the language. It helps
27:45
to have Bolt. It helps to have, I forget the
27:48
name of the place in Nepal or the name of the
27:50
place in whatever random country that you're
27:51
in, that you don't have to deal with the individual
27:54
back-to-back. You can just deal with it through
27:55
an application. Sure, but isn't it also, but
27:59
you're also... Part of the point of going
28:02
to Nepal is to interact with Nepalese people.
28:06
And part of that is you arrive all bleary and
28:09
jet lagged at the airport in Kathmandu. You waddle
28:15
your way out through a throng of taxi drivers
28:18
and you try to figure out which one's not going
28:20
to take you somewhere and rob you and actually
28:23
deliver you to your destination within a reasonable
28:27
amount of accuracy. That's part of the experience,
28:29
having not been to Nepal, but been to countries
28:32
like that. That's part of it. That's not part
28:36
of the experience I want. I want to experience
28:37
the country, not get robbed or potentially mugged
28:40
in a cab. That's part of the experience. Ease
28:44
of access. And it makes it easier, even though
28:47
it fucks over the person who's driving that car.
28:51
And I guess I'm trying to make the point of saying
28:53
football players are making millions of dollars.
28:57
Hey, we want to play this game. We enjoy this
29:00
game. We're going to make millions of dollars
29:02
off this game. I think it behooves them to know
29:04
you're going to get brain damage. I think part
29:08
of it is you shouldn't hide the ball. They should
29:11
know, pun intended, they should know what they're
29:15
getting into when they're playing the sport but
29:17
yes you really take away choice. Well the problem
29:21
is that there's how much choice is there
29:23
right to become a professional NFL player. It's
29:25
impossible to start when you're 18 years old
29:27
and then no matter how talented you
29:29
are you have to start as a kid and so we don't as a society don't
29:35
believe that children do or should have agency.
29:37
I don't know. We should probably. I think
29:41
I am maybe even boring myself with this conversation
29:44
but we should move on to Bolsonaro
29:48
and the other stuff. All right. So all right
29:52
and also let me hit some of the comments
29:54
and then we can. By the way not that Kat
29:57
Williams thanks for the donation. That interview
29:59
with Jemima Pierre regarding Haiti was illuminating.
30:03
Tomorrow good stuff. And Deep Green, VO, thanks
30:08
for the donation. Nobody talks about Haiti. So
30:10
it's kind of like. No, they ought to. It's not
30:13
like it's in our hemisphere or anything. What's
30:16
your. The number of people that are being killed
30:19
and what they're using is like, it's a Haiti
30:25
is fair game. That's a political position, right?
30:29
Haiti has gone through all sorts of shit that
30:30
we've been unfortunately involved in. She's strong
30:35
on that story. Okay Deep Green what's your
30:41
alternative Ted given that it's given many players
30:43
and especially African Americans coming from
30:45
low-income working-class families a chance
30:47
at generational wealth. I don't have an answer.
30:52
I was gonna say what generational wealth. So if it all works out really well and you are
30:59
really smart financially and you save all that
31:02
money and you don't move into a big house and
31:05
you come out of it with a few
31:08
million dollars at the end of your career yeah
31:10
and your brains turn to pudding at the end.
31:13
What good does it do you? Okay so let's talk about Bolsonaro.
31:19
So Flavio Bolsonaro of course was the recently
31:22
defeated right-wing candidate
31:26
against Lula. Lula 80 years old won a fourth term
31:29
in Brazil. Flavio has fled. It's the 1970s,
31:35
like Somoza fleeing Nicaragua, has fled to Florida.
31:40
Trump, like he's Ronald Reagan or someone like
31:43
that, or Jimmy Carter, greets him with open arms
31:46
and says, come on over. And Bolsonaro is like,
31:51
I am the true legitimate leader of Brazil. Elections
31:56
are so dangerous. We should ban them. That's
31:59
probably true. There are a lot of people who
32:01
feel that way. We should just ban football,
32:04
ban golf. Definitely got to ban go-kart racing.
32:07
You've got to just ban all the things that start
32:09
with the elections. Go-kart racing is dangerous.
32:13
Look, in the future, people are going
32:16
to be like, I can't believe people drove. Think about right now, what we think is so normal.
32:23
I don't think anyone watching right now doesn't
32:26
know someone who was at least severely injured
32:28
or even died in a car crash, right? Everyone knows someone like that. It's so common. We just take it for granted.
32:36
And in the future, people are gonna be like,
32:37
wait, they spent around in little
32:41
tin boxes at 70 miles an hour and trusted each
32:45
other not to be drunk or high the entire time.
32:47
And every now and then they banged into each
32:49
other. And that was okay with them.
32:52
It'll be like, yeah, we were kind of idiots. And it's a trust issue, ain't
32:56
it? That is a societal trust thing. It is. Now
33:01
we know that we have guys driving double
33:04
tractor trailers who don't even speak English.
33:08
Can't even read the signs. Awesome. The question is, what's the alternative?
33:13
They're all that are imperfect. But the alternative
33:19
is meaning you got to get from more mass
33:22
transit, for example. Well, agreed. In Europe.
33:26
Agreed. Yeah, that would be better. But we made
33:29
the Faustian bargain in the U.S. highways. Cars
33:34
we believe in independence right and look I love
33:39
to drive. It's one of my favorite things to do
33:41
so give me a road trip. Yeah one of my great ambitions
33:47
is to drive the entire north south length
33:51
of Mexico down the spine of Mexico through the Quentin Tarantino zones. I really
33:58
want to do that. Anyway okay so Bolsonaro.
34:04
You know, it looks to me like what the setup
34:07
here is. I guess there's one of two things that
34:09
can happen. Bolsonaro ends up living
34:13
whatever with or without floozies. I don't know
34:16
his personal life in Miami Beach and hopes that the floodwaters don't get him someday
34:21
and eventually just dies. Or he and Trump and
34:26
Marco Rubio are plotting to reinstall him on
34:30
the throne of a regime-changed Brazil. Given what's going on with Venezuela, Cuba, and
34:40
now Brazil, and where the Trump administration
34:42
is not acknowledging the results of the election
34:45
as legitimate, you have to think that's in the
34:48
cards. It's something that I would say
34:50
my read is they're seriously considering it.
34:53
Well, so Donald Trump's initial response was
34:58
that, was kind of like fraud. Eventually, he
35:02
just became, this was a strange election without
35:05
him saying that any kind of election
35:08
was fraudulent or anything else. He used the
35:09
term strange. The other Latin American states
35:13
that are right-wing have already congratulated
35:16
him on his win. And I will tell you, when I was
35:19
doing the election once before, and you had Bolsonaro
35:22
as his dad, making this argument that the election
35:26
was fraudulent and everything else. After the
35:28
election, Bolsonaro shut up. In fact, Bolsonaro
35:31
fled to Florida. And the people who were around
35:34
Bolsonaro that was once before making this argument,
35:36
like this Trumpian argument, oh, there's going
35:38
to be fraud, there's going to be fraud. Those
35:40
people shut up. Those people didn't have anything
35:42
to say. They didn't come out to the streets to
35:44
bat Bolsonaro when he failed in that election,
35:47
despite everything they were saying before the
35:49
election. This is very similar. They didn't have
35:52
the people coming out on the street claiming
35:53
that the election was fraudulent. They accepted
35:55
Lula's win. And Lula basically won by the same
35:58
percentage that he beat his dad by earlier before.
36:02
And so I don't think so. If Donald
36:06
Trump tried to do that, they would do it under
36:08
the idea of narco terrorism. Meaning if you're
36:10
looking at the story, you're looking at movement
36:13
taking place. It will be taking place around
36:15
the language of narco terrorists, narco terrorists.
36:18
There are people who are doing drugs in Brazil.
36:21
They would have to use a lens by which to do
36:25
it. And I suspect that would be the lens to do
36:27
it if they were ever going to do it. Because
36:28
the election at this point, Lula won. They run
36:32
their elections much better than we do in the
36:33
U.S. They run those elections like clockwork.
36:37
Not to mention, people are supposed to vote legally.
36:43
We need to have a better answer for why they
36:45
didn't vote and they get a fine if they didn't
36:47
vote. So Brazil runs their electoral system pretty
36:50
cleanly. It would be a hard argument for Donald
36:53
Trump to make that there was interference. If
36:54
anything of interference, it was the U.S. interfering
36:57
in Ireland. Well, that's true. Yeah, having Elon
37:01
Musk or Zuckerberg getting involved in the elections
37:04
themselves to try to screw over Lula, having
37:06
the embassy shut down over a period of time.
37:09
They were doing this stuff in order to try to
37:10
influence the elections. So I don't know. It's
37:13
possible Brazil has to be prepared for war because
37:18
of what the U.S. has been doing, which was pretty
37:21
hair-raising for him to bring that up. But I
37:23
agree with you. They have to be planning for
37:26
it as a contingency plan, meaning from the standpoint
37:28
of Brazil, looking at the U.S. that has been
37:31
very aggressive towards South America. They have
37:33
to. Now, the thing is, Brazil has, it's basically the size of the United States.
37:39
It is a big country. Its borders are
37:42
even, they even have longer borders than we do.
37:45
It is a big country. I can't even imagine what...
37:50
Look, right now, I don't even see how U.S. forces
37:53
could successfully invade and occupy Cuba. How
37:58
are they going to do that with Brazil? The
37:59
United States can't defeat... They can't
38:03
control the Strait of Hormuz. The United States
38:06
can't defeat the Houthis through their proxy,
38:09
Saudi Arabia. They can't defeat the Russians
38:13
in Ukraine with the Russians having been fighting
38:17
with one hand tied behind their back. You know,
38:20
Brazil? Really? You think that
38:24
you can... How is this even a thought
38:27
for them? For the United States? Isn't this one of those things that should just
38:31
be dismissed out of hand? Jamarl, do you hear
38:43
me? I can hear you now. Jesus, what is going
38:46
on with this? Yeah, you're in and out. You've
38:49
been in and out. Up until Monday, I suppose.
38:57
I guess maybe call them. Yeah. This afternoon,
39:00
you have to call your provider, I think. Find
39:03
out what's going on. I don't think it's your
39:05
internet. You think it is, right? I think it's
39:09
probably your... I think it's GPU. I have an
39:12
internet plugged into the wall. I think it's
39:15
GPU lag. So after TMI, I will call you, and I
39:19
will walk you through, and then what we can do
39:21
is we can just diagnose it and see just what's
39:23
going on. I have a doctor immediately after the
39:27
show, so I'm not going to be able to... That's
39:29
fine. Later on today, whenever. But I may have
39:33
a computer I can get you. Well, I don't think
39:37
it's a computer issue. I haven't had an issue
39:38
with it before. This is the first time. I don't
39:40
know. We can just diagnose it and see.
39:43
Let's rule out the easy things first and then
39:45
work our way up. Well, Robby, I'll figure
39:48
it out. The issue is more so that we're
39:50
online. There's no lag time where
39:54
I can figure it out on air is the issue. I get
39:58
that. Yeah, Ethernet is best, right? That would be ideal. Best case scenario,
40:05
it's a bad Ethernet cable. Worst case scenario.
40:08
That's possible. That is true, too. Ethernet
40:10
cables rot. They get old and then they just stop
40:14
working. Yeah, they do. And hey, let's just be
40:17
honest. At the end of the day, TMI gets
40:19
the best ratings whenever we're doing troubleshooting
40:21
on air. Yeah, I know. So who's to say the DeProgram,
40:25
especially since we got these douchebags
40:30
over on YouTube mass reporting videos trying
40:32
to get the channel shut down. True, true. Yeah,
40:36
let's not get into the specifics there. Yeah.
40:39
Look, at the end of the day, I think what it
40:41
boils down to is Brazil is prepared or they're
40:46
trying to prepare. I don't think it will be an
40:48
occupation. I think it would be like Brazil.
40:51
This idea of controlling this government, controlling
40:53
this state. It would be like Venezuela, right?
40:54
I'm sorry, right. Like Venezuela,
40:57
right. I don't think it's like we're going to
40:58
have this massive armada that is going to occupy.
41:02
Five million troops. Yeah. Yeah. I think it would
41:06
be trying to control the state. And by the way,
41:08
Bolsonaro was on some level doing that for the
41:11
U.S. They put Lula in a cage once before.
41:14
If you remember, Lula was winning that election.
41:16
And if he wasn't put into a cage, Bolsonaro would
41:20
have never won. The dad. Yeah. Yeah, the dad.
41:25
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, no, that's just, that
41:31
is crazy. Yeah, well, I don't know. So
41:35
it just, I just want to remind everyone.
41:37
Do you remember what happened to Somoza? It's
41:41
like everyone always forgets about that. I want
41:44
to make sure I have the details right. But he
41:47
was, yeah, he was living in Paraguay, right,
41:50
in exile. And anyway, he's driving along in his
41:55
Mercedes Benz. And then in Asuncion, he's driving
42:01
along and he got ambushed by a commando team
42:05
from the Revolutionary Workers Party of Argentina.
42:08
And they decided to just whack him. And they
42:12
shot up the car, killed him and the driver. It's
42:16
like, he fled into exile, didn't work out well.
42:20
Yeah, but I don't get the sense that he's going
42:22
to get killed in Florida. Probably not. But,
42:27
you know, no, I get the sense of hookers. I don't
42:31
understand. What is he on about, though, declaring
42:34
himself the legit president? Wouldn't it just
42:36
be better to just say to graciously say, well,
42:39
I lost. The people of Brazil have spoken. Democracy
42:42
has triumphed. And then I'm going to leave. And
42:45
I'll just go live in Florida and snort blow off
42:49
hookers. He's taking his cue from Trump. If you
42:51
remember, Bolsonaro is a Trump clone. In fact,
42:55
many of these Latin American leaders are Trump
42:56
clones. Milei in Argentina, for example. All
42:59
these guys are Trump clones. And so if you remember
43:02
when Bolsonaro, his dad was doing the
43:08
same thing, which is why his dad, in part, is
43:10
sitting in a prison in Brazil as we speak. It's
43:13
like a third of the family is in Congress or
43:15
Parliament or Congress. Another part of the family
43:18
is in prison. He tried to take Flavio's passports
43:22
because they were going to prosecute him also
43:24
for very similar things. It's illegal in Brazil
43:26
to do what he's doing. Right. Him claiming
43:30
that he won the race. Brazil doesn't play that
43:31
shit. It's illegal. And it's illegal for a good
43:33
reason. It's complicated. If your electoral
43:38
system, because you could have fraud, in which
43:40
case a person needs to be able to say, I was
43:43
cheated. By the same token, he wasn't cheated.
43:47
He just lost. He fled the country. Right, right.
43:53
No, it's crazy. Well, we should talk
43:57
about the two Dan Sullivans, because that's a
43:59
wild story, too. So, okay, so we all remember this
44:04
curiosity where basically there were two Dan
44:09
Sullivans. There's Dan S. Sullivan. He's the
44:13
incumbent. He's a Republican. That's how he's
44:17
listed on the ballot as a registered Republican
44:20
and incumbent. Also on the ballot is this guy,
44:24
Daniel J. Sullivan Jr., who has no political
44:28
experience and is not listed as having any party
44:33
affiliation whatsoever. There were worries on
44:40
the part of Republicans that this was all a Democratic
44:44
ruse in order to confuse the voters of Alaska.
44:49
Well, that turned out to be true. And so the
44:52
New York Times, they dropped a bombshell report
44:56
yesterday about this. And it turns out the top
45:00
aides for the Democratic candidate, Mary Peltola,
45:03
orchestrated this covert ballot composition project
45:07
starting back in the summer of last year. And
45:11
basically, they scoured the state of Alaska looking
45:14
for other candidates who would be willing to
45:17
run named Dan Sullivan, who could serve as a
45:19
spoiler. This Democratic operative from Washington,
45:24
Jared Kurtz, recruited this retired school teacher
45:27
who denied that this has been the case. And now
45:32
the Republican governor, Mike Dunleavy, has directed
45:36
the Department of Public Safety in Alaska to
45:39
go to look into whether this violates
45:43
any state election or consumer protection laws.
45:46
The Mary Peltola says this is just not true.
45:50
It's a distraction meant to sell newspapers.
45:54
Oh, it's obviously true. And it's obviously going
45:57
to sell newspapers. This is an October
46:00
surprise, and I think there's a lot to it. It shows the Democrats can be just as ruthless
46:06
as Republicans. It also shows, it's funny
46:10
as hell, but it's also appalling. And it also
46:15
exposes the weaknesses in a system where basically people can be easily confused.
46:21
It's kind of brilliant. They looked at it and
46:23
they were like Dan Sullivan that's a pretty common
46:26
name. I bet we could find another Dan Sullivan
46:29
instead of just Mary Peltola just
46:33
try to convince people in Alaska to vote for
46:34
you just do that but really it's brilliant but
46:39
it's also okay so now I'm gonna say now by the
46:42
way I'm not saying that's good. I'm just saying
46:43
no. No, I agree. It's brilliant. It's not good,
46:50
but it's brilliant. I guess here's the thing
46:52
is I have a lot of thoughts about this. It's
46:55
clever. It's disgusting. Yeah. It's nauseating.
46:59
It's a front to democracy. Yeah. It also. Look, I don't know the culture of Alaskans. I'm
47:09
sure we have some Alaskans or people who know
47:11
Alaska watching and maybe they can chime in on
47:13
the comments right now. I'd love to hear from
47:15
you guys about this, or maybe even call in.
47:19
Robby, you can maybe open the phone lines. And
47:20
if you're from Alaska and you know about this
47:23
cause. But Alaska is a small is a big
47:26
state with a small population. Right. My experience with sparsely populated
47:32
places is they really hate this kind of behavior.
47:36
In New York City, people might, or LA, people
47:39
might laugh about it and be like, because they're
47:41
so used to being grifted all the time. But when
47:43
you live in a small community, you really rely on trust. I don't know. And also
47:51
the other thing about this, and then I'll shut
47:52
up, is Democrats are always talking about trying to play it straight. When they go
48:00
low, we go high. Here we are. It's October
48:05
29. The election is Thursday. Election is Tuesday,
48:10
right? People are already voting. And here, the
48:13
whole Democratic brand has been, the
48:16
Republicans hate democracy. They, January
48:19
6, they tried to coup the government. The president
48:22
tried to coup himself. They're cheaters. They're
48:25
going to turn us into authoritarians. And here
48:27
you are pulling some shit like this instead of
48:30
playing it straight. Unbelievable. Okay, I'll
48:35
shut up now. I agree with everything you said,
48:38
but god, it's clever. I guess the question really
48:43
is, will this backfire? Putting this
48:46
out there saying, this is what the Democrats
48:48
did in order to try to goose the vote. Does it
48:53
backfire? That's the interesting question to
48:55
me. That is the question. God, man, it's clever.
49:01
George Bush, was it? I think it was George Bush,
49:03
Bill Clinton, Ross Perot. And the way that Ross
49:06
Perot effectively took votes and sapped the energy
49:08
away from George Bush. There was overlap between
49:11
the two that damaged Bush when he was running
49:14
against Bill Clinton. It puts me in a position
49:17
where it's like we need to sap the vote from
49:20
the sky because we're going to take votes away
49:21
from people. Basically, we're going to fool voters
49:24
into thinking that these people are the same
49:26
person. Is this going to backfire? It should.
49:34
It really should. The thing is, I don't
49:38
know how she weasels. She can't weasel out of
49:41
it. That is weasely. God, that's weasely. And
49:43
I have to be honest with you. I hate it when
49:45
they did that in the race where they would tell
49:48
people who were, let's say, on the left, when, was it Stoyer? Under Pelosi. And he goes
49:57
to a state to tell a guy to get out the race.
50:00
And the guy records it. I don't know if you remember
50:01
this. He records the conversation. And basically
50:04
they were like, look, the Democratic Party is
50:05
not going to support you. Get out the race. We
50:07
already have our guy. It feels kind of like sodging
50:12
the electoral system, which is what they're effectively
50:15
doing. But they're doing it in a way where they're
50:16
trying to trick Alaskan voters. Yeah, this is
50:19
even worse. This is worse than this. You know, I hate the skullduggery of the
50:23
type that you just described. For example,
50:25
when Hillary Clinton in 2000, former first lady,
50:29
moved to New York State as a carpetbagger. And
50:34
basically then, and there was some
50:36
nice lady who was poised to be the Democratic
50:39
candidate for Senate and most likely would have
50:42
won and who was an expert in education and would
50:46
have been a great senator probably. But the Democratic
50:48
Party told her, you got to stand down. I feel
50:52
like if you're going to run, just run the race.
50:54
We're clearing the slate for Hillary. You've
50:56
got to drop out. And she did. And they were like,
50:59
oh, don't worry. We got your back. We'll take
51:02
care of you later. You can imagine how that worked
51:04
out. She didn't get anything. And I hate
51:08
that. But this is worse because it's an affront
51:11
to the voters. It's literally voter fraud. Is
51:16
it? Can you convict? Probably. It's probably
51:21
legal. This is they just got somebody to run
51:27
in race. Okay, well, it's legal to run in race.
51:30
And is it really collusion if all of the metrics
51:34
and everything else is effectively met for the
51:35
person running the race? Well, we know it's collusion.
51:38
Right. But from the electoral system, they just
51:40
look at it as Joe decided to run in the race
51:44
against so-and-so. It just feels like election
51:47
shenanigans. Is this any different than, let's
51:50
say, if you had a campaign rally and that sends
51:51
somebody to the campaign rally to incite a riot
51:55
into the crowd. Politicians do that. It's not good
52:00
but they do it. I don't know how would you even
52:03
make a law against this. Yeah well that's
52:07
the thing is. Well look it's funny one thing that
52:09
jumped out at me is how the URLs
52:13
and news stories are optimized for SEO and the
52:17
URL in the New York Times story that broke this
52:19
included the word conspiracy and I was like that's
52:23
exactly where the legal exposure is. It's a conspiracy.
52:29
Anyone can run for office, I guess, if they live
52:36
in the state of Alaska. And you could have all
52:39
the Dan Sullivans run. You could have six run.
52:42
Why not? And I do think it does kind of prompt
52:47
the question, should there be ballot reform?
52:52
For example, in Afghanistan, I was there during in 2010 and
52:59
they were having parliamentary elections and
53:01
a lot of the population is illiterate. And so
53:04
one of the ways they got around that is, people would be like, they would
53:09
have what's the word I'm looking for? Little
53:11
graphic images of symbols like wingdings and stuff like that that would be on
53:18
the campaign poster. So it's like Jamarl Thomas
53:20
is running for, campaign forestry minister
53:23
and then there's a picture of an inkwell
53:26
and then when you go to the ballot there's
53:29
no picture of you and they can't read your name
53:31
but they see the inkwell and they're like okay
53:33
I'm voting for that guy because I know the inkwell
53:36
guy. One of the things that made me laugh was
53:38
there was some candidate who had a Christmas
53:40
tree as the symbol and I was like this is
53:43
a Muslim country. Do you know what that
53:46
is? But anyway the thing is that
53:52
you know, I was like, oh, I'll vote inkwell.
53:54
I'm a cartoonist. I'll always vote a straight
53:55
inkwell ticket. And so, what if you had,
54:00
certainly we have the ability to print
54:02
ballots that would have, for example, the name
54:05
of the, I voted early. And in early
54:07
voting, it's a much bigger area than my district.
54:12
So they now have the ability to print out a custom
54:16
ballot. And they did that. Like, oh, you have
54:19
a ballot initiative in your district that's specific.
54:23
So there's a special. So when I go to vote, I
54:26
get a Ted Rall ballot. But when you go to vote
54:29
in the same county, you would not get the same
54:32
ballot. You'd get a ballot for your town if you
54:34
lived in a different town. So you could have
54:36
pictures of the candidates, for example, or you
54:39
could have a little, 20 line, 20 word
54:43
bio. Jamarl Thomas is the co-host of
54:47
the program and the host of the Jamarl Thomas
54:50
show. Right. You could have that kind of thing.
54:52
Daniel J. Sullivan is a retired school
54:56
teacher as opposed to Daniel S. Sullivan is the
55:00
U.S. senator from Alaska. Right. You could do that. Maybe that's
55:06
not a bad idea. I'll put their face on it. Or
55:10
both. Yeah. Just a little picture of their face
55:14
and their name and let people vote. I don't see how that's dramatic of a change. I
55:20
do think this is a potential conspiracy. But
55:25
to defraud the voters of the country of that
55:29
particular. Conspiracy is such a broad
55:33
thing and it's so easy to, we saw that
55:36
with RICO, with the case
55:39
in Fulton County with Fani Willis, right? It's really easy to convict people for conspiracy.
55:46
It's like plotting and scheming it up to no good
55:49
pretty much gets you across the finish line.
55:52
To what law did they break? RICO, maybe? To do
55:56
what? Conspiracy to convert, to subvert the federal
56:05
election, right? Election of Alaska's U.S. Senator.
56:11
It's a major election. They weren't even
56:13
trying to steal the mayoral. It's not the
56:16
mayor of Nome. This is the U.S. Senate seat.
56:20
Right. No, I get it. I get it. It's clever as
56:25
all hell. I don't know if it's illegal, though.
56:28
But it's stupid. All they got to do is
56:30
run against the record of Murkowski. She's horrible.
56:33
That's all you got to do. Her record is what
56:36
you run against. Murkowski is not on the balance.
56:39
This is not Murkowski. This is Mary Peltola.
56:43
Oh, that's what I meant. But seriously,
56:46
just for this. Mary Peltola is the challenger.
56:49
So basically, the guy who's there now, one of
56:53
the two Dan Sullivans. Dan Sullivan. Dan Sullivan
56:57
the Dan Sullivan with drop shadow and gothic lettering the one the honorable Dan
57:04
Sullivan. That guy's retiring. He's out so
57:08
the seat's going to be open but you know what
57:11
you do is that that's not true. He's running for
57:13
re-election. He's running for re-election. Running
57:15
another Sullivan against them to confuse. It's
57:20
like the real scientists get rid of the advantages
57:22
of incumbency. Yeah well his record
57:25
is enough to do that. But the point I guess I'm
57:27
trying to make is just about like Neo for the
57:30
Matrix. The black trench coat, the glasses. I
57:34
am the one. I am. That's all you got to do. I
57:38
am the real Dan Sullivan. I am the one. But people
57:41
do go to the polls and they're just like, oh,
57:44
fuck, which Dan Sullivan is it? Yep. It's going
57:47
to happen. They know it's going to happen. Yeah.
57:49
All you have to do is confuse one or two
57:51
percent of the vote and it's good enough. Certificate
57:55
thing, where you have to have your ID, but
57:57
when you go to vote, it's the same thing. It's
57:58
okay, we know a certain percentage of people
58:00
are going to not have this and are not going
58:03
to be able to vote. Same thing. There's maybe
58:04
2% of people vote for the wrong Dan Sullivan.
58:07
That 2% might be enough to win. Absolutely.
58:10
I think the current polls
58:12
show 51.3 to 48.7 or something. So look, yeah,
58:18
obviously 1% of the vote can make the difference.
58:21
Yeah, it matters. God, man, if they win, that's
58:27
going to be some shit to pay for that. Yeah.
58:31
I just think it's... But, before
58:34
we close out, does this hurt the Democratic Party
58:36
brand nationally? Does it? No. I don't think
58:41
it matters. This is going to be a way... It's
58:42
just an Alaska story at this point? Yeah. A lot
58:48
of stuff is just going to be... When they look at the blood on the floor, this
58:53
is going to be a dribble in this corner that
58:55
they're not going to pay attention to. Wow. You can never bet against the level of
59:04
cynicism in our system. All right. We'll be back
59:07
tomorrow with the full two-hour show. We'll
59:09
be here 9 to 11. Hopefully, you and Robby can
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59:15
Please stay tuned for the TMI show coming up
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59:23
Have a good one, guys. Thanks, Ted. Bye-bye.
59:25
Bye.