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Bechoros 37 · Daf Yomi with Aaron Cohen

• 0:14
  SPEAKER_00: So for the following mumin, you can share the bahar.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_00: So what are we talking about?
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_00: So we know we're learning Bihiras.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: And a Bihar is special that it's one of the two karbanas that if it gets a mum, you don't have to be poided.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_00: Now regular Bsuya Mukdashin, that's Big Dusha Goth, you have to be poided.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: If it gets a mum, you're poided.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: And the Hunter, then you can go uh do what you want with it.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: In most cases, depending on when the mum happened.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_00: But a bihar, the posigan that Ira tells you as soon as it gets a bihar, as soon as it gets a mum, you can go and eat it.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_00: So you can go and shaft it.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_00: And especially today when there's no uh misbeah to bring the behar upon, there's not much to do with the behar unless it gets a mum.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_00: And therefore you could see why a person would want a mum to happen, which uh is a lot of what we've been learning, along the themes of what we've been learning.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: And we don't trust you all the time, and there's all types of gazirs that go into this.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: But either way, our mission is gonna get very uh technical, like the next couple of days, and we're gonna discuss what type of mum is considered a mum that you're gonna be allowed to now shacht the bikhar because of this mum.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_00: Al in the mumin shacht and because the following mumin, you could shacht the bikhar.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_00: Nifgema's minah chashus avaloi mina or so the first one is if it was nefkam, which means it was like nechar, it was missing a little bit.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: So the ear.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: We're talking about specifically mumen on the ear, and there's so much we're gonna see.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_00: So if the ear was missing a little bit, minha chaschus avaloi mina or.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_00: So chaschus rash explains is tnuchin, shekirin, tenderin, which is old French for cartilage.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: So we're talking about the right tendons, nice.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: So we're talking about the the cartilage type of thing, not the tnouch.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: Tenoch sometimes you would think means the earlobe is a tnuch, isn't it?
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yamanis and the partial mitzaro.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: But over here, Rash explains specifically it's uh tenderin, which is uh cartilage.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: So if it gets nech sar, if it gets nefgam in the cartilage of it, that's considered a mum you'll be able to shachta before because of a linear, but not because of uh a phgam that it has in the earlobe.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_00: In the earlobe, that already is not considered a mum that you're gonna be able to shachta because of nystica.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_00: What if it gets a sedic?
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: So similar to uh nifgemod, where it's uh where it has a phgam.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: But nistika is more like a sedic, I think, is more of like a line, like a scratch across it.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_00: So n if it was Nistika, Alpha Pishlay Chasra.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_00: So if it has a hole in it another type of hole, even if it's not chasr or anything, even if it's not missing any part of the ear, how does it have a hole?
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: If it's not missing anything, the answer is it was stretched out a little bit.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: You could have you could have the you could have the ear with a hole in it, even though the ear is not missing anything, because uh the hole just uh pushed away the the parts that were there.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_00: But if it was Nizika, even Alpha Pishlay Hasra, if it has a hole and has a sedek, even if it's not missing anything, that's gonna be considered a mum that you're gonna be able to shach the bahar because of.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: Nikvah mole karshina, if it had a nekev, a hole, at the size of a karshina, which is some type of animal food, that is gonna be considered a mum, that you're gonna be able to shach this behor because of oyshiovsha, or it dried up, okay.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_00: What does it mean that the ear dried up that now you're gonna be able to shacht this bahar because of that?
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: Koshati nakived inimati atam.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: You wanna know what?
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_00: If you make a hole, if you poke it and it doesn't it doesn't bleed, if that happens, you know it's dry enough that it's considered a mum you're gonna be able to shacht it.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas if I must he nefrach we're talking about it's so dry, what is it?
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't just mean that it doesn't bleed, it means it's so dry that a mamash crumbles.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: If it crumbles because of its dryness, that's the dryness that we're talking about that's considered a mum that you're gonna be able to shacht this bihar because of, and with that technical Mishnah Zakhtagemar.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: Amai.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_00: What's the question?
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_00: Why are all of these movements specifically about the ear?
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's got these little holes in its ear, and all of a sudden it's considered a mum, you're gonna be able to shacht it.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_00: What does the tarah say?
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: The tarah says piseah the evaxiv.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_00: Amai, meaning why are you allowed to shacht the bihar because of these m movements on the ear?
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_00: If the tarah tells you specifically piseih the ever, if it's a piseah, he can't walk properly and his legs has an issue, the ever it's blind, those are much more serious movements.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the what the tarah says, you're gonna be able to shaft the bihar for.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_00: For what?
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_00: So how where's our Mishnah coming from telling us that even if it has these movements on its ear, it's gonna be good enough?
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_00: says the Gemark Sevenami.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you why, because the Pasik also says, besides for saying Piseh V ever, which are intense movement, it also says kiyia boy mum, which is uh which is a reboy, kiyia boy mum is including even other type of movement, like the movement in our Mishnah, like the ear movement that we saw, and not just limited to Piseh the Iver, but says the Gemara, okay.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: So you have Pisehvi Iver, and you have Kiyabai Mum.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: What is that?
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: That would be a claw prat.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: The emo, kiyabhimum claw, that's a claw for generalization, kiyabum.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't specify which one.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: And then Pisha Iver Prat, when it specifies what type of moment, Pisha Iver in the posting, that would be a prat, and we know that aloha.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: Klau prat in bichlal elashamashabrat.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: How do you darshana klaal and prat?
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: In bihl elamash of the prat.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_00: The only thing you're allowed to include over here is what the prat says.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_00: And what does the prat say?
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: Pisak leaver in Midiakharina light.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_00: Only Pishach V'ev, and not anything else, not any ear movement, like the Mishnah said.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_00: And says again, I'll tell you why we don't say that and why we do include include ear movement.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because khomum raza claw.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: Because the Possik and then says Khomumra, what's that?
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_00: That is already another claw.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_00: And what do you have when you have a claw and a prat and a cloud?
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's claw, pratuklaw.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_00: Iatodon elkaina prat.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: Whenever you have a claw, pratuklaw, we know that alocha.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: You dan keena prat.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_00: Meaning not only the prat, not only the specification Piseh of Iver that the Possik said, but anything that's keina prat.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_00: Anything that's similar to the Piseh Iver.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: That what do we learn?
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: What is similar to the Prat over here?
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: Ma'aprat, Mephurish, Mumin Shabagoli, the Einel Chizrin.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_00: Just like the Prat is Mephurish, what's the Prat?
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: Piseh Iver.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: So just like Piseh of Iver are Mumin Shabagoli, it's movement that you could see.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: The Ainul Chizrin, they're also Mumin Khavua.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_00: They're not Chuser, they don't get better.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_00: And so just like those things don't get better in their Mumin Shabbagoli, so too, Afkomin Shabagale, Veinun Chaizr.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: So too anything that's doimet to the Prat, anything that's doy met to Pisekhve Iver, in these two ways, that it's Mumin Shabagalai, it's revealed, and it's Ainun Chizrin, which includes these movement of the ear, that we're gonna include to these movement that you're gonna be able to shak the buhar for.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara, the imam ma'prat in the first movement shabgali.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_00: Ubato mi milahtoi, vein oi chhoiser, ach ko mumin shabgoloi, ubotom a milahto einchhoiser.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_00: Meaning, says the Gemara, you're right.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's a claw pratuklaw, and the allochhoe is iatodon elke in a prat.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: So what do we tell you?
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_00: Anything that's like the prat.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_00: But you chose a very specific two things to say that it's kein a prat.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: Only Mumin Shah Bagalloi and Ainun Chusrin, why don't I say that anything that's very specifically like those two Pratin that you have, which is Piseh Vivir?
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't we throw in another one?
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: Besides for just saying that it has to be revealed, like like uh Pisehvi Iver, and it has to be Ainun Chuserin, it has to be a Mum Kavua like Piser Iver, why don't we also say that it's botom emilahte like Piserhvi Iver?
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_00: It has to be bottom emilahte.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: Those two movements that the Prophet says, Pisak Vivir, are intense movement that is mevatal this animal memelachte.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: It can't work with these movements.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: It can't work if it's blind, it can't work if its leg doesn't work, and therefore, why don't we say that just like those two, uh that it just like that is the representation, that is the characteristics of this prat, also bottom emilahte, so why don't we say anything that's also bottom emilahte is gonna be included, which is uh not like if it has a little ascetic on its ear.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_00: It could work guns fine if it has a little hole in its ear.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: And therefore, why are we limited why are we limiting it to only two of the specifications?
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't we also say bat umilafta?
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's keyna prat.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_00: Sa lamatana, why did we say nivgama uznoi mina chaskus, vilaimina or which is a stamma problem on the ear, and therefore it's not uh wouldn't make it bot umilaftai?
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't we say that it has to be exactly Demitada Prat?
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: And says the Gemara, kom umumra ribuyhu.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_00: And then the day, the kom umra and end of the pasuk, the call is always a reboy.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: And if it's a reboy, it's being marbah, not only things that are gonna make it botamilafte.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, we have a klaw pratuklaw, and we are gonna dar shin that we're gonna be marba anything that's keina prat.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_00: But what?
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_00: Not keina prat all the way.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: Only Kaina Prat in two out of three ways.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_00: Kaina Prat that it's going to be Mumenshabagalai, and it's keina prat that it's uh that it's uh mumkabuah.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: However, we're not gonna go that far and say it has to be exactly like the prat, that it's also gonna be bottom of lahte.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_00: Because I also have a reboy that would limit it.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I also have a reboy to say we're gonna be more inclusive and something that's bottom lachte, even if it's not bottom of malafte, I'm still gonna include it in the movie.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if it has an extra word, call is generally a reboy, you it doesn't negate the fact that you it's not one thing, it's more of the word call, I'm pretty sure.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the word call, but we also have kol mumrat, so that whole thing is used as uh the second cloud.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: But once you have call, that's a reboy already, and that's why we're gonna say that claw pratu claw, but not specifically only mashikana prat, because we also have a reboy of kol mumrat.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: Says the Gamar.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_00: Ihochi, if so, then Mumenshab Aser, Nami, then why don't we also include Mum and Shibbasayser?
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: Meaning Ihochi, Raji says Diribuyuhu, if so that we have a reboy over here, so we're adding things even that aren't diamond to the Prat that aren't Kaina Prat, then why don't we also include Mum and Shipasayser?
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_00: Mumen that you can't see.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_00: Alamans, why do we have a Mishnah that says basically that uh movement that you can't see are not gonna be a problem?
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_00: Are not included over here.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, that are gonna be a problem.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_00: Mum and Shibbasays are not included in this, and therefore it wouldn't be considered a mum that you're gonna be able to shaft on.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, very good.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_00: So why so again, Iochhi that I have a rebuy over here of Khomumra, then Mum and Ship Aser Nami, we should include that should be considered a mum.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_00: Alamatan, why we have a Mishnah that says chutinachanias, we're talking about like the outer gums, shinifgimu, vishe nigmimu, that either got a pygam, there were or they were missing parts.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: So there was uh the point is that you could see it.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's the outer gums that you're gonna be able to see there's a stickle issue with.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: The pneumia is or the inner gums, shenakru, that were completely uprooted.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: What's the difference, inner gums and outer gums?
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: The point is if it's inner, you're only gonna notice it if it's completely uprooted.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: The point here is that it's only something that you can notice.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_00: Mumenshabigale.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: But mumenshabeser we're not including over here.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: What does that sound like?
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: Nekru, inegumu, in negmu, lai.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: The mumensheb, the the inner gums, only if they were completely uprooted that you'll be able to see it.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_00: But if they were stam nephgam or negmumu, they were missing parts, then lai, because you're not gonna be able to see that.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: So why did we say that?
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't we include, since we have a rebuy of Kal Mumra, why don't we say that even uh Mum and Shabaseser should be included over here?
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like another day you need a mum ra, and it's only called a mumra, Raj says we make her at a big sheminavla.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's only called a mum ra if it's bigalui, because that makes it uh stay as uh minavla, it makes it a state of nibble.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um disgusting a little bit, and therefore it's not mumra.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: If not, that's why it has to be bigal.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: If so, again that we have a rebuy of kal mum, then why aren't we marba?
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: Other things.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: Why aren't why aren't we marba even a mum iver?
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: Even the mum that's gonna pass, why does it have to be a mum kavua?
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm at nan, why they have a mission that says villaimina or and not from the earlobe, right?
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_00: That's a mum oiver, that was the example in the Mishnah.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: Mum oiver svaru.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_00: And so the game I'll tell you why.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_00: Because the mum iver is a svara that we're not gonna include it over here because the hash to mifrikina loi parkinan iluve.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: Manach in a case of regular uh sule mukdashim, regular cotchum, we wouldn't be poide an animal because of a mum oiver.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: You can only be poid to the khadchim if it has a real mum kavua.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: So by regular codchum, we're not gonna be poided because of a mum ever.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: So mishka chakina levi.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: So what?
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: By a bah we're gonna shacht because of a mum iver?
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_00: No way.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_00: We're only gonna shaft it for something that's a mum kavua, something that by a regular khotchim, you would be poid to the animal.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_00: We have a braisa.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: So again, we're just showing over here.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: The whole point of this brece is to show you, or the Tna Mishnah, or the Tani the Brysa.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: The whole point of this breast that we're bringing is just to show you this concept we said that we already know that you're only gonna be poid in an animal for a mum kavuh, not for a mum either.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_00: How do we know that the tanya?
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: Vim call behemothmeash, any behemothmea that you're not gonna bring as a karman, you're gonna be poide.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: So be balanim shanibdua kasamidaver.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_00: We're talking about bali mumin shanibdu.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_00: Meaning, you would think that maybe the posik is talking about a behemothmea, a non-kosher animal.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: Zuk the Zukta Braisa.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's talking about a kosher animal that was uh designated as a karman, but it got a mum.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: Bemali mumin shinivda kasamadaber.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember the mum and shenividda kasamadabar.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, the behemothmea, mammish.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's talking about actually non-kosher animals, like the posik says.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_00: How do you know that behemothmea, which means non-kosher animals, really means bali mumin over here?
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: So remember when it says the in the behemothmea, behemothmea, I'm already already said the hematmea.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_00: So what do I do with the next words?
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_00: Ashaleya krivum mina.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna bring it as a karmun.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_00: We're talking about bali mummin, shandiv.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: That was a bam and he replayed.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yo, yivduam, I would think you could be played as an animal, even if it has a mum that's gonna go away, even if it's not a mum kabuah.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: Which teaches me that me sha'inakriva kalaker.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: You could only be played in an animal that cannot be brought any time as a carbon.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: Because it has a mum kabu.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: If it has a mum kabu, it can't be uh it can't be ever brought as a carbon.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: Ya's, which excludes a mum oiver, sha'in a klebay nalanama.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's not brought today as a karbun, but it could be brought tomorrow as soon as the mum is Nisrape, and that's how we know, and that's how we know that about mum oyver, you're not gonna be able to be point to that, and that is not gonna be included, of course, as a mum by a bichur.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: Says the Gamar Ibaiseim, another answer would be that Mkayin Pisih alamini, meaning, another this Ibaisim is coming to say another reason how we know that a mum oiver is not considered uh mum, because Mkane, if you're gonna tell me that a mum oyver is considered a mum, then piseh alam, why does it say piseh viver?
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: And then today I need some the piseh viver is to teach me something, right?
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: We had a claw pratuklaw, but then we had a reba that's starting to include things.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: But if you're gonna go too far and tell me that the rebo includes everything, so you just knocked off your whole claw pratuklaws.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, claw prato claw, piseh viver has to teach you something.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: So the claw pratokal, piseach viber has to be like piseh vibr al-fahchot, that it's uh mum kavot like pisech v ever.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: But peace uh but if it's a mum iver again, you just knocked out everything, and there would be no reason for the positive to specifically say the prat of piseh viver.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: So obviously, then the second reason that's a much more partial way of explaining why a mum oiver, a muff temporary mum, is not going to be included.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_00: Says the Gamaravita.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: So we said if it got the sedek, even if it's not missing, it has a hole in its ear, but even if it's not missing any part of the ear, it's just a hole, so it's like stretched to the sides, that's also gonna be considered a mum that you're gonna be able to shak this behavior.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: Even a tiny bit.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: So whether it's bideam, whether it happened from a person or it happened naturally, then it's still gonna be considered a mum.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_00: What does that imply?
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: So we're comparing, right?
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: Sedek like this, but but uh pggimah, that bide'adam, bide sham, it's still gonna be considered a mum.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_00: So that implies that a sedek bide shamai imply.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: If it happened naturally, then it wouldn't be considered a mum.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: Only if it happened bideyadam.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: Says the gumara, no no no, you understand that totally wrong.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: And this is how you're you're supposed to read it.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: Allah sedek ubgima, b'invide shamai bin mideadam.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: We said the shir of a sedek, which is called sho.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: As it relates to how it happens, that's what that we're talking about, both of them.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: Sedek and Begimah, doesn't matter how it happened.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: Bain bide shamai, bini mideadam, it's gonna be considered a mum.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: And now that we only are left not knowing the shear of abgima, because we already said the shir of a sedek, umashir bagima, the kama shir bhegima, kede shahbar batzibura.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_00: And the shear of a bagima is now not that if you're sliding your finger down it, your nail will get stuck in that little sedek.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: It will kind of go into the groove.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's gonna be enough that now it's gonna be considered a mum.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: Nikvah Mulloi Mile Miloi the Khulu.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: So we're talking about Melai Karshinan, so we said the shear is going to be for a neka meleikarshinan, which is some type of animal food.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: So Tanarmana we have a braisa.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: Kam and a kiba's eyes, and how big does the nekav have to be in order to render it a mum?
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: Miloi karshina.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: So that's the size of a Karshina, which is animal food.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: The size of a adasha, which is a lentil.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: In the Mishnah that's gonna be considered a mum, that you're gonna be able to shaht this uh bah because of.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: Sha'em tinoke bazdam, like we saw.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna uh poke it and it's not gonna bleed, then you know it's dry enough that it's considered a mum.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like we saw already, if it is so dry that it crumbles, that's when it's considered a mum that you're gonna be able to shachate.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: Tono.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: And we learnt in the Braysa that Kravin de Vreen Liashavan.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: Now these two shetas are mumish very close to each other.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: These two shiurum that we gave are very, very close to each other, or they're almost equal.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: Which two shetas are we talking about that are almost equal?
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: You're talking about tanakaminarbesi, Mira Mashulim, which are the two sheetas about how dry it is, that either you poke it and there's no blood, or it uh you touch it and it starts crumbling.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: So vehicle.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: Those are not very close sheetas.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's uh that's a big difference in the shear, right?
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, it's gonna be much drier that it starts crumbling, and it's a much lesser shear to say that uh you poke it and it uh has no blood.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of room in between those two sheetas.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: So beyond.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, we're talking about the two sheetas of the Tanakhama and Rebasaber Yuda.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: Basically, whether the shear for a nekiv is bekeadasha or kashina.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: Karshina was the animal food or the karaadasha, which is a lentil, and those two sheetas are super, super close.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara, okay.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: But you didn't tell me that we just saw Rebeas Ban Yuda says that Basebar Yuda said that the shear for nekiv is bekadasha.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: In Batami Akkadasha Dai, really?
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: Only if it's the size of a lentil, but less than a lentil that's not gonna be considered a mum to Shah the Bahar, Uriben Ya's the uh Marseya.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: The past says Marteya, this is as relates to um evident when he decides ishti, uhtiesa do it.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: He wants to stay by his master.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: What do we do?
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: We uh take him to the mezuzah and we we knock him with a marzea, we poke a hole through his ear, vehulu, and then he stays for till the next one.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: But Marzeya, what do we do it with?
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: What do we do this uh little uh piercing with?
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's Marzeya.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: We use the marzeah.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: I only know that you're allowed to use marzeah, this type of tool.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: How do I know that you're allowed to use uh sira machata magdeh, like a splinter or a thorn or a needle?
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's the point over here.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: This is a metal pen.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: Tamo noimar, vilokahtuh.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: It says villa kahto, which teaches me call novershin no kachbiyan.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: Anything that you could take in a hand, any normal tool that you would hold in your hand, you're still you're gonna be able to be making this mitzvah of uh Marzeya.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: Anything that you could take, any of these above things.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: That's where Basebayuda says.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: Ready?
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm Rabbi says no.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: Marzea.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: Marseilla teach me as to be doymant to Marcea.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: Just like Marzea's metal afol shit shamataka.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: So to anything that is metal.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: Viktani safe, and the safma over there said that Omarabilazar, the Sheita Mikabetsa says, Omar al Lazar, you didn't be hoy darsh.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: Udin baribi, was always the keynote for the godar.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: So you then the godal dar, you then baribi used to dark in the following.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: Shane writes in when they used to be uh uh be read's ear, Shane writes in, Ain't another Bamilas.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: They used to do it on his ear lobe, but Khachamimamer the Khaham say ain't Evid every kain nirza.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Evan every that was a kain, you he's not, he doesn't get this.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: You you're not uh you don't do this to his ear, and the reason is the Banesh Nasabum, because this would make him a Baumum.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_00: And we don't want to make it the Kainaba Mum because then he's gonna be possible for Avoid in the future.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: And what's the question?
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: The question is, in time, so you write in, hey Achebir Koyen Asabalum.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna tell me that they do it on the earlobe, they do this procedure on the earlobe, we just said, then how would he become a Baumum?
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: You're not gonna be a Baal Mum because of a hole on the earlobe.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: So it's another Megabhish noise, and then that's why it says that no, you don't want to know where they do this.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: See how they do it on the top of the ear.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, Mikham Walkham, what's the question?
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: The question is if you hush in this whole bright, so you see before where Bayas Bar Huda said, Rabbi Sabah Yudah said before what?
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: That you could use any of the above things.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Remarseya, in the martey, the rabbisovas sirva machat, the makdeh, a mechov.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: How do you know that you could even use a needle?
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: The machat was one of them.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: So you brought a Joshua and it said Vilokahto.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: So you could use anything, even a needle.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: So we said before that we also see that what it makes him a balmoom.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: If you take any of these things, makdeah, all of the above, Rebez Beryuda said, even a needle, and you pierce him, you pierce him on the top of the ear, it makes him a balmoom, and that's why we didn't do it to a coin.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: Not on the ear though, but on the top of the ear.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas Baruda told us what?
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: That you could even use a needle.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: So over here, you're making a hole on the guy's ear, you're using a needle, which is mamashakalshu, it's the tiniest thing, and it makes him a balmoom, and that's why you don't do it to a coin.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: What's the question?
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Raz Maryuda said before, Bikadasha.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: The hole has to be how much the hole has to be a lentil.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: Is the needle a lentil big?
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's much smaller, says the Gamara Amr of Khan Markatino.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: Lakasha's not a kasha.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: Kan Lishkoit, kan lipslap liftsol.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: Explains not a kasha.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: When Rezmar Yuda say it has to be a adosha, that's lishkoit.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: To allow you to consider this a mum that you're gonna be able to shach the Bukhar because them, that's when it has to be adosha's big.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: However, Kan Lifsa, where is it gonna be fossil?
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: Where we said that it's uh that it would be considered a mum.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: If you if you make a hole with a needle, that would passle this carbon for the misbehak.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: You can't bring it down the misbehag, but it wouldn't be enough to schecht it.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: That's the difference.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: One of the sheetas that we saw for the nekiv, the shear of the nekiv was Karshina, this amount of uh Karshina, which is animal food, which he said is very close to Adasha.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's the Tushi Uram or Mamash Kraven.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: My Karshina, what's a Karshina?
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: Summer of Shradya Hindo.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's the animal food known as a hindo.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: Go figure.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: Balminer of Hoishya Miravhunarabha Karshina Anaknash.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: Bom minervoshya merevunarabha Karshina Anachnas Via or Karshina I Medis.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: What so this Karshina's hole that you're making, how big does the hole have to be?
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: So it has to be a Karshina, right?
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: But does that have to be big enough that the Karshina could easily go in and out, smooth in and out?
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: That's a little bit bigger, or enough that you can squeeze it in and then it gets stuck in there.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's a smaller hole.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: But it's uh which year is it?
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Amalai, he answered the back.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: Zulay Shamathi.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't hear that.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: I heard something similar, however.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's not in the following Mishnah, Hashedrava Gulgaila Shachasur.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: As it relates to a spine or a skull that are missing a piece.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: This is in the context of Thomas Mace.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: We know that besides for a full body being Tabi Mace, also if you have body parts, they're gonna be Tamimace.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: Bi oyo.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: So if you have like a full spine or you have a full skull, it's gonna be metami mace bail.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: What if these parts are missing, pieces of it?
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: So you have a spine but it's not a full spine because it's missing.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's not gonna be metama bile because it's not a full aver.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: If you have the skull but it's missing, it's not gonna be metama bile because again it's not a full avar.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: So a shed shahash, if they're missing, then So how much?
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: How much does the spine have to be missing that it's now it's not going to be metamibayo?
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: Because now it's not considered a full labor.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: So says, Bishamar says Bishame says that it has to be missing two vertebrae.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: The vertebrae are like the little pieces.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: You have like the hinges on the spine going down.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: So Bishama says, if it's missing two vertebrae, then it's not going to be Metama Baal.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: So Imam Bisell says, even only one, it's not going to be Metame.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's cooler, right?
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: Because it needs less.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: It only needs to be missing a tiny bit.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: And now it's not going to be metame.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: So that's a cooler from Bays Hill.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: So it says the Gemaro, they'll go guys.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: Has to be Hussar the amount of a makdeach's worth, meaning uh that you drill in a hole, and if it has a hole the size of a drill bit, that's going to be already not metameh.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: The amount that if you take that piece off of a live person, that person would die.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: Meaning the amount that he needs, Ma'amish, you can't take off that piece of his skull, and if he would die without that piece, that's the amount that now it's not gonna be metameh oil.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: So is the Gemara.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: The Yasubir of Khazim Bikami Bailey.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: And Rukhiz was sitting over and asking, Kideshi Natominahaiomas, the Bach says Minachai Yomas Bikamo.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: What is this shear?
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: This shear that Basil says that uh a person can't live without, that's the shear that Basil says it's gonna uh now not be Methamib oil anymore if it's missing that amount.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: How much is that amount?
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you what Shmuel said.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: Shmuel said it's a cellas worth, a coin, it's the size of this cellah, if it's missing that amount, that's the amount the person's not gonna be able to live with, and that's the amount, then now it's not gonna be metabol oil.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: Vitmar! And it was said over that Rifsaframa Schmitt's Omrelea, Rifsafra said that he said this over in the lush of a shmeitza, just a shmu'a from Shmuel.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: Shmurayudh said that he said it in the lush of a braisa, he said it over to him, meaning just the way that Riv Tahlifa Baravodimi said it over.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: Which way?
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: So one one one sheet says he said it over Stama Shmu'a, another sheet said he said it a little more brace today.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: Tani is the lush of a braise.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: So you're saying it over, soud is the one that said that he said it in the in the version of a Braisa.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: But either way, V Amalai, and he answered in a back, in Cain, if so, that you're telling me that the size of Baishilla, the size of Baishilla that says that how big is Kadesh in Natam and a Hive Yamas, that's a Selah's worth.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: A person can't live without a cell's worth of his uh skull.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: So if so, then a sisa devi bashamahai but the bashilo, achul, you made bashamah and bashilo really the same shita.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: And they're clearly arguing over here.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: So how could they be the same shita?
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: Now why is it the same shita?
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: Because bashamah says, what is the she what is the size?
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: Makdeah, a drill bit size.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: Bishil said what?
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: A cell, according to your explanation.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: And we're about to prove our magdeach, a drill bit, and a cell are the same shear.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: If I'm gonna show you that a magdeh and a cellar are the same shear, then obviously you just made Bishamah and Bizhil the same exact shear, and that doesn't make sense because clearly they are going.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: Where do we see that?
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: Magdach and Sela are the same shear that's mountain.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: We have a Mishnah, Mar shall I Nasabideodam.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: So we're talking about a window.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: If you have mace, if you have tumma in a house, so we know tomas oil, anything under the same roof is gonna be tamay.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: What if you have like a building and you have a lot of different rooms?
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: So the rooms are gonna be massik the tumma from going into the next room.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: However, if there's a small opening, if there's like a window in between, that's gonna transfer the tumma from one room to the next.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: So more, a window.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: Shlay Nasubid'a on them.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: So it depends if the window is meaning how big does the opening have to be to transfer the tumma.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: So more, this window, shlai nasubidyama.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: If it wasn't maybe deada, meaning it happened by itself, the wall, the wall fell a little bit, whatever it was.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: Shure Malay Agrifgodl.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: So the Shear to transfer the Tumma from one room to the other is Malay Agrif Godl, the size of a big fist.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: How big?
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: Vizawa Grif ben Avat Avatiah.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: This is the size of the fist of this guy Ben Avatiah, who was had a very big fist.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: Number basically explained.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: The size of his fist was the size of a regular person's head.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: Now the if the window was made bid'adam, a person made the window, then she malay magdeh, god old shalishka.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: Then the shear of the hole is like the malay machdef, like a drill, god o shalishka, like the built big drill they used in the lishka of the base of the basin of Magdash.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: It was a bigger drill.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: They used it for different things in the base of Magdash.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: It was a bigger type of drill.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: The point is, if it's made bid the adam, that's how big the opening has to be.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's a smaller shear, right?
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: The size of uh a Magdeh God Oshalleshka.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: She pundion, which you want to know how big that is, it's like a pundion type of coin, italki, Italian pundion, sela nirainus, and a selah of nirainus that was named for Nero, Kesar, uh the Yeshnoi, Kem Mali nekesol.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: And the size of it is like the hole of a yoke.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's the same.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_00: So what do we see from here?
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: Mikal mokum, what do we see?
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: We see that a selah, what do we just say?
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: Makdeh Godoshka, the makdeah that they used in the basin was like a sela neroinus.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: So makdehiko selah.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: If makdehiko selah, then Baishamay who said the shear is a makdeh, is the same sheetah of Baisella, the way you explained him that the amount to take off of a live person and he can't live over anymore is the size of a sellah, so that's the same exact shear.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: And so the Gimara ishtik.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_00: So he was Kai, he didn't know what to say because you just made the way you explained it, the sheet of Bishamah and Bisollah, the same thing.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm Khizdah tried answering.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: He said, Shama Magdeh, Vihisuma Shinino.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe when Baishama said the shear is a makdeh, maybe he meant a little bigger than a regular maqdeh.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe he meant makdeh vihisumai.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: The size of a drill hole, right?
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_00: The makdeh, but also chisumai, the way to finish it off.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: So after you drill and you want to make the hole a little bigger, you start like moving it this way and tilting it on the edges a little bit.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_00: That widens the hole.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: So that's makdeh vihisumai.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: So maybe the sheet of when he said makdeh, it's really magdeh vihisumai, which is a larger shear.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_00: Don't say maybe he meant that.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: Say vadeh.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: He must have meant that.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: And sorry to salah kichia aviakash.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: And we should rely on this.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: What we just said to Sheita Bishamah.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: We have to rely on what you said, like the way we rely on Khizkyah, the father of Akash.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: How do we rely on Khziah Aviakash?
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: So that's not we're gonna see in the Mishnah.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: Totally unrelated.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: We'll try to get through a lot of it now just to finish off this.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: But the point is, it's just something we rely on him.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta rely on this the same way you rely on him.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: Where does that?
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's not.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: We have a Mishnah.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_00: Zu Aidus, Hey, Khizia Aviakash.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: This was his Aidus.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: He said before Ramagam Lilith.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: Name Ramaliah the Yavna in Yavn.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: Shamar Mishum, sorry, keep stopping.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: Sha'amar Mishum Ramangamlia Azakin.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: He said it over in the name of Mugilazakin.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_00: So everyone sitting in Yavna, he says it over in the name of Mamli Alazakin.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: Cosha inlay tohbi, Kli Kharas, inlay a harem nachalika.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_00: So we know that Allah Klichharis.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: A Klicheras has no uh once it becomes Tameh, there's no, you can't be Matar, you can't put in the mitra, you have to break it.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: Also, is the Khidish in the Tara that Klichharis is only Matama is only Metame Misaikh, only me to only from inside of it.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's if it has a base keebel, something goes even into the avir, even into the air space of the Klicharis is gonna be metame, masha in cane by other kailim.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: And something touches the back of it, it's not gonna be metame the whole khlikars.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's basics by a kliharis.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: But the Mishnah says, Zu aidus, right?
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_00: What's the aidus?
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: That khlikharas, let's say a kliharis or further klee, doesn't have an inside.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have a base keebel.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: In the a chairm the khalika.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not gonna have a back to become tame regular, which teaches me nitma toiche nitmagabe, nitmagaba nitmatayho, meaning it's not gonna have a back for regular toma to like other things would be mitame, which t which basically tells me that nitma tache, if the inside of it becomes tame, then the back side also becomes tame.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: And netmagaba, if the back side of it becomes tame, then the inside of it also becomes tame.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: But the gamara asked on that does doesn't make any sense.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_00: Khlicheras besich tal rahmana, the ta'i said that only me taich, only from the inside.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: What do you mean not the back side?
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be tame also.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: Islay taihi tamileh.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: So, uh oh, and the gamara, which teaches me what, sorry.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: You're talking about a klichheras that has no taich, and still it's gonna become tame, I don't understand.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: The tair said only if it has a toich, which teaches me, islei taichitamile, lessly taich lay tamile.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: If it has a taich, it can become tame, if not not.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: So what do you mean it's gonna become tame?
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be subject to tomo even if it doesn't have a taich.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: This is what we meant to say.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: It didn't make sense before.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: This is how we have to read it.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_00: Kosheimloi toich bih klichheres.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: Anything that doesn't have a toich, as it relates to a regular klehers, it doesn't have a base keebo.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: Keneglay, canegdo bish klishetef inlay a charaim la chalika.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_00: Kenegda, if you have the same type of clee by a klishetef, a klisheth is like a regular wood klee.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_00: Shettev just means you could tible it, it's washable.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's what shettev means.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: Klishetev that it's tivable.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: You could tible it and now it's going to be come to our meaning not a klichharis.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: So canagdo, same type of clea.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: Meaning if it doesn't have a tay by a clicheras, then kinegday be klishetev inlay a charaim le chalika.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: If you have the same type of clee that doesn't have a base keyboard but a regular clee, then nitmo to nitmagawa, nitmagaba, nitmotech, so if the inside of it becomes tame, then the outside of it is gonna become tame, and if the outside of it becomes tame, then the inside of it is become tame, meaning one big gun's tama the whole thing, you anywhere on the clee that you touch, the whole thing is gonna become tame.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: But the gummar asks again.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: Lomali memitslai bikliharis.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_00: So if so that your whole point is about a regular wooden klee that doesn't have a base key ball, that anywhere that toma touches it, the whole thing is gonna become tame, then why do I have to teach you this allah bidarch mushal, right?
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: Anything like a kleharis that doesn't have an inside, can neg do you bikle shattef if you have the same type of clee that a wooden klee, then Allah's gonna why don't we just say very explicitly that Naimo, why don't we just say Kalsha Eloy Toyh biklichhath, ey a harem la khaliqa?
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't I have to bring a gansa mushal from a kleharis?
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: Just talk about a klee shattef.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: Then anything that doesn't have a toih, biklichheth, in the aharam la khikah says ignore how comashmon, what's the kidish?
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_00: The reason we use the mushal, the kliharis is to teach you a kiddish.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_00: The yeshloi toih harayuka khlichharas.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: Then if it does have a toch, if it does have a base key ball, then it's gonna be considered like a klichharis, that what maklichharis nitmutah nitmagabai, just like a kliharis, if the inside becomes tameh, then the outside is gonna become the tame, lointah, loin it magabai, ach klishheth nitmatehoi nitmagabai, loin nitmotechai, loinit magabahab.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's the same allow by Klisheth.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: Bishlam a kleharas, goliakmana, goliberachmana toihoi.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: I understand why that would be true by Klee Harris.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's one of the differentiators by a kleharis, right?
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_00: That it has a whole khiddish of ta'i, because the tarot says toichoi.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_00: Although Klishhetev, me, Goliberachmana Taich, does the tired of say anything about Toyche by Klishethov?
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: Why would we say such a thing?
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: You're right.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_00: As it relates to Madaraisah, you're right.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's totally different, it's nothing to do with Toychoi, like a Klichharas.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: What are we talking about?
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: But Tomas Mashkin Drabon.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: We're talking about Thomas Mashkin, which is Dirabonon.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not we have a Mishnah.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_00: That calls Nitma Achor Bimashkin.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: Anything that the outside of it was nitma bimashkin, which is drabanon, a choruf tmayin, toychoi, agnoi, ozno, viodov tarun.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_00: Then the backside is gonna be tame.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: However, the inside or the lip or the handle or the yodov is a different type of handle, that's gonna be taurun.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: Nitma toi, however, if the inside became tame, then kula kama.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: The entire thing is gonna be tomeh.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: And this is derabanon by kle mask by by Tomas Mashkin, which is Drabonan.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: Because on a derisa level, eichlin a mashkin are not metam the khala clean.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: That were gonna be metame from eichlin and mashkin.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_00: Because of a gzera that maybe uh or uh the mashka of a zebra or a zaba, which would be metamit the a raisa.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_00: So once that could okay, so you're gonna be michalik between different mashkin now, you could see room for the gzera.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's why they were gazed by other mashkin.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: Hilkah Shavy are rabbana kitumu the klicher, so the loy shaviraban kitum the raisin of therefore when the rabban made a gzerah, they made a gzera by when they made a gzera by regular tomas oyshlen and a mashkin, that's gonna be metame a klee, they made a gzera and they made this klee shabirabon and ketuma de klicheras.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: They give it the same tumma level as a klicheras that's only metame from the inside, and then it affects everything.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: And the rabbana didn't make the gzera to have it like the regular tumma d'arisa of itself, that what that toiho wouldn't make a difference in the world by Klisheth.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because of durabonana keyroki echidal lister for that trim of katsh.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_00: Because when the Rabana made a gzero, that even Aikhul and Mashkin are gonna be Metame, this uh Klishetef, you wanna know why the Tumah is not like a regular Klishetev Dorisa when it applies, and we're gonna make it like a Klee Haris, even though we're talking about a wooden klee, because we have to make a hecker.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: You have to see that this toma is different, and you're gonna realize oh that you're right, this is only the rabbana.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you really if you think it's tame like every other wooden klee that's actually metame d'arisa, then you would have a problem because you're gonna come the hey kiekh de la lisrabalhum of karmic, because if trumah or kudim touch this klee, you might burn it because you think there's no difference, and it's actually Tama Daraisa.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_00: So we make a hecker, then no, it's totally different this type of tomorrow.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna treat it like Tumma Daraisa of a kleeharas, and you'll realize there's something going on over here, and then you'll realize you're right, this is only gonna be Tamidarabanan, and that's why if Trumarkajim get into the picture over here, I'm not gonna go burn it.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_00: If it's not actually Tamidarisa of the Trumarakajim, it's gonna be a terrible thing to go and burn it.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: And if so, since this is only a tumidaraban, that's why we said and made this hacker ki eih de la lisabala chumavakajim.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna me leaved nami a kera.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: If so, why do we only make the hacker if it has a toih?
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't we make the hacker even if it doesn't have a toy?
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_00: And so the gumara came in the rabban, came in the abdu a kera, but yeshlay toi, yeah diyah the inloy toich daraban.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: Since we already made a hacker by a case where it becomes tomidan where it has a toyh, so people will know already, since this is uh these are gonna be the allochas, it's different, people will know already that inloy to is the rabbanan.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: That if it doesn't have a taich, they're gonna know it's also darabana, because again, we don't need hackers across the board in every type of situation.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: Since we have a hacker in one of the common situations, so we're gonna know also in a case of a klee that doesn't have a taich, it's already darabana because the hacker by a different case is gonna make you remember that.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_00: So the Mishnah, let's go to the Mishnah.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be two more minutes.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: The Ainlay Taich will have easier time tomorrow.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_00: The aim, I'm not asking you today, baby.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: The aim taich with klee shath, the raisabar kibule, tomo, says the Gemara.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: If it doesn't have a taich by a kleeshetef, if it doesn't have a taich by a cle shath, right?
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: We're talking about the raised of the rabanan, but we're assuming that a regular kle that's wood, that doesn't have an inside, is mikabu tomadarisa, but it says taih with cle shath, the raisa bar kibule, tomohu.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: Is it mikabu toma dar raisa on a the raisa level, but khlal if it doesn't have a taich?
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: Don't need a sack bean, and we need it to be like a sac.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's one of the examples of tarragade.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_00: And a sack massak mit malevarikan, I've called mitata malevarikan.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_00: Just like a sac has uh opening, you could put stuff in it, it could be carried empty and full.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_00: So to anything that uh you can fill things up.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: You're right, we're talking about only klichetep, only like a wooden type of cleav that doesn't have a taich, but it's chazilemedras.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_00: Tumas medras is a totally different type of tumor that uh becomes from a Zav or a Zav, a Tumaia Samaguf sits on it, and if he sits on it, that's Tumma Medras, which is the right, so that's the Tumor we're talking about, and it doesn't necessarily need a toy.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: If so, then even by a Klicharas that doesn't have a taich, we should make a Xera, and says Gamar, in Midras biklicharis, there's no midras bichlah by Klichharas.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_00: Midras only applies by Abu Tepaken, huh?
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_00: Good.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: So Rapapa's going back on the question we had before, then Rapapa's going back on the question we had before that uh the two shietahs sound the same.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_00: If so, according to what you're saying, then the Magdeh of Bishamah and the Selah of Basil is going to be the same thing.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_00: Or Papa Ammar and Magdech Godoshinu.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: What did we say in the Brahsa?
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: We said Magdeh Goddal of the Lishka.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: We're not talking about a regular Magdef, we're talking about a big Magdef.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: And Mikhada Magdeh stamps with an amik mikaselah, which implies that a regular Magdef, which is the shear that Bishamah said, that is already smaller than a selah.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: So mayor, that makes sense, according to our mare and who are they?
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: Then we have a Mishnah Bayz in Magdeh, what is Bishamah talking about when he said Magdef?
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: Bekhat and Shah Raifim.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_00: He's talking about a small one.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_00: Bishamah, when he said that for the amount that the Gilgalis that the skull has to be missing, it has to be a Magdaf's worth in order not to be Tammeh, he's talking about a small one, Bekat and Shah Raifim, the very remair.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's where Americ says Bishamah says Bachham.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_00: Remember, Megath Salishka.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_00: So what are you gonna say?
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: If so, it's gonna come out that this is one of the coolas of shamai.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_00: Because you need a smaller shear now for it not to be tumne.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_00: That's a kula.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever we counted as the coolist of Bishamah, we already know.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_00: If it's didn't make the list, it's not one of them.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_00: So the Ammar'un Nachman explains that Sela Niroinis Shaninu.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_00: What did we say?
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: We said as it relates to the window connecting the two rooms, Sela Niroinis.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_00: And that is Kimakdeh Gadr.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_00: As it relates to Sela Niroinis, that's a specific type of cell.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like every cell.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_00: This already uh you could have assumed before.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_00: Sela ni rainis is like a big magdeh, whereas cell astam, a regular cell, a regular cell that Basil said is smaller.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: Zutrami Magdeh stam is smaller than a regular Magdeach, and that's why Baishilla could actually be the smaller sheet, and that's why it's not the same sheet between Bisham and Basil.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_00: Good shot.