Latest / Research Insights, a Society of Actuaries Podcast / Long Term Drivers of Future Mortality - Episode 3 - Lifestyle
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- 0:05Ronora Stryker: Hi listeners, and welcome to the Research
- 0:07Insights Podcast. I'm Ronora Stryker, a Senior Practice
- 0:12Research Actuary here at the Society of Actuaries Research
- 0:15Institute. And welcome back to our special podcast series
- 0:19focusing on the paper Long Term Drivers of Future Mortality that
- 0:24was part of our 2023 Living to 100 Symposium. The paper is
- 0:28authored by Yair Babad, Professor Emeritus at the
- 0:32University of Illinois Chicago, and Al Klein, Principal and
- 0:35Consulting Actuary at Milliman. Today we're exploring Chapter
- 0:40Three on Lifestyle. I'm joined by two members of our Mortality
- 0:44and Longevity Strategic Research Program Steering Committee. Our
- 0:48first member is Al Klein, one of the authors of our paper.
- 0:52Welcome Al!
- 0:53Al Klein: Thanks Ronora, and welcome everyone from near and
- 0:55far.
- 0:56Ronora Stryker: We also have Eric Pickett, actuary and Chief
- 0:59Content Officer of Club, Vita, Hi, Eric!
- 1:03Eric Pickett: Hello, Hello. It's great to be here!
- 1:05Ronora Stryker: Okay Listeners. As a quick reminder, if you want
- 1:09to download the paper, just go to soa.org and click on the
- 1:14research institute tab, look for research by topic, and click on
- 1:19Mortality and Longevity. This will take you to the M & L
- 1:22landing page, where you will find the link to the paper and
- 1:26this podcast in the upper right hand corner. And with that, I'll
- 1:31pass you over to Al and Eric, take it away. Al!
- 1:35Al Klein: Thanks Ronora, as you mentioned today, we're diving
- 1:38into Chapter Three, where we examine how lifestyle choices
- 1:41impact mortality and longevity. Lifestyle choices are some of
- 1:45the more significant drivers of future mortality. Actuaries need
- 1:49to consider how evolving lifestyle trends, both positive
- 1:53and negative, will shape mortality and population
- 1:56forecasts and projection models, whether for life insurance,
- 2:00annuities or pension plans. Lifestyle choices also affect
- 2:04demographers and public health official's future estimates.
- 2:09Eric Pickett: Exactly and lifestyle factors such as
- 2:12physical activity, diet, smoking, alcohol consumption and
- 2:15stress management all play significant roles in determining
- 2:19health outcomes, longevity and quality of life. Understanding
- 2:23trends in these behaviors at the population level and for
- 2:26different socioeconomic groups is crucial when building long
- 2:29term mortality and population projections. And unlike many of
- 2:34the other drivers featured in this paper, these are ones over
- 2:37which individuals actually have some control. So there's a
- 2:40really wide range of influences on how these trends may develop
- 2:45into the future. Are behaviors improving? Are new risk factors
- 2:49emerging? Are attitudes towards different behaviors changing?
- 2:53Are there any changes to public health interventions on the
- 2:56horizon? How will such changes affect different groups of
- 2:59people? These are the key questions that actuaries need to
- 3:02consider.
- 3:03Al Klein: That's a lot to consider, but you're right,
- 3:04Eric, even small shifts in behavior over time can have
- 3:08significant implications for mortality rates of individuals
- 3:12and society as a whole. Let's start by discussing one of the
- 3:15most influential factors, exercise. Why don't you start
- 3:19with this one?
- 3:20Eric Pickett: Yeah, thanks Al! So regular physical activity is
- 3:24known to improve many health outcomes, including reducing the
- 3:28risk of cardiovascular disease, diabetes, obesity and even
- 3:32mental health issues like depression. And the amount of
- 3:35data we have to study on this driver has recently increased
- 3:39with the use of pedometers and other activity tracking through
- 3:42mobile health apps.
- 3:43Right now, physical inactivity is a growing concern. The US
- 3:47Physical Activity Guidelines for adults recommends at least two
- 3:50and a half hours of moderate aerobic activity per week, but
- 3:54the latest figures from the CDC in 2020 show that less than half
- 3:58the US adult population achieves this recommendation with some
- 4:02big differences between different geographical and socio
- 4:05economic groups across the US. Conversely, there's also a push
- 4:11towards more health conscious living with wearable technology,
- 4:14corporate wellness programs and fitness tracking becoming more
- 4:18popular, although this has slowed some with COVID. That
- 4:21said, while there's the potential to mitigate some of
- 4:24the sedentary behavioral trends, there's also the potential to
- 4:27increase the differential between groups as unemployment
- 4:31increases.
- 4:32Yeah, a really interesting set of interactions there, I think,
- 4:36and it certainly will be a challenge to predict their
- 4:38overall effects on the future mortality rates, some of the key
- 4:42questions for actuaries to consider then are, how have
- 4:45inactivity levels changed over recent decades, and how are they
- 4:48likely to change in the future? Are we becoming more or less
- 4:51sedentary, and how does this differ between socio economic
- 4:54groups or geographical groups? Also, how long does it actually
- 4:58take for inactivity levels to filter through into mortality
- 5:02and morbidity statistics. For example, when does a change in
- 5:05behavior for a 40 year old now show up in the data? Is it right
- 5:10away, or is there a lag until they reach their 60s or their
- 5:1370s?
- 5:14Al Klein: Understanding how different sub populations engage
- 5:17with physical activity is key when modeling future mortality
- 5:20rates, factors such as urban planning, access to recreational
- 5:25spaces and the integration of exercise into daily life can all
- 5:29impact long term trends in mortality and the overall
- 5:32population, which in turn, can affect public policy and
- 5:36community service budgeting. And before we leave this topic, it
- 5:40is my hope that as you research things like exercise for
- 5:43projecting future mortality, you also consider it personally. Now
- 5:47let's turn to the next topic, diet. Dietary trends are another
- 5:52major lifestyle factor impacting mortality, and understanding
- 5:56this impact is made more challenging as there does not
- 5:58seem to be a wide consensus on a recommended healthy diet. That
- 6:03said, if you see me in person at any of the SOA or other
- 6:05meetings, I'd be happy to discuss this topic further,
- 6:08maybe over a healthy lunch!
- 6:11Eric Pickett: I might take you up on that Al, I think I need
- 6:14all the help I can get! Nevertheless, by various
- 6:18measures, dietary habits seem to have been getting worse over the
- 6:22years, and this is correlated with the increase in overweight
- 6:25and obesity rates. A key question for actuaries is
- 6:29whether we will see a reversal in unhealthy dietary trends.
- 6:32While some populations are shifting towards more plant
- 6:35based and whole food diets, the widespread availability of high
- 6:38calorie low nutrition processed foods remains a concern.
- 6:42Additionally, food insecurity and nutritional inequality could
- 6:45exacerbate health and mortality disparities. We are also eagerly
- 6:49awaiting more information on the long term effects and take up
- 6:53rates of the recent appetite suppressing obesity medications,
- 6:57which is still a relative unknown.
- 6:59Al Klein: Forecasting dietary trends is challenging, but
- 7:01actuaries must monitor the levels of obesity in the
- 7:04population at large as well as the insurance population.
- 7:08Obesity typically leads to conditions like diabetes,
- 7:11cardiovascular disease and metabolic disorders, each of
- 7:15which are significant drivers of mortality.
- 7:18Eric Pickett: Okay, next, let's turn our attention to one of the
- 7:21big ones, and that's not a pun. After talking about obesity, I
- 7:26now want to discuss smoking. Smoking remains one of the
- 7:29leading causes of preventable deaths worldwide and is one of
- 7:33the major behavioral drivers of differences in mortality rates.
- 7:38Al Klein: That's right, Eric, although smoking rates in the US
- 7:41have decreased significantly over the last 60 years. The
- 7:44latest figures estimate around 11.6% of the US population
- 7:48smokes down from about 40% or over 40% in the 1960s and this
- 7:55large reduction in smoking rates is at least partially
- 7:59responsible for the mortality improvements we have seen in the
- 8:01US over the recent decades.
- 8:05Eric Pickett: So when considering changes to future
- 8:07mortality rates, we'll need to think about where the further
- 8:10reduction in smoking rates will be possible over the coming
- 8:12years. Remember, someone who doesn't smoke can't give up
- 8:15smoking.
- 8:17Al Klein: That should be pretty easy to remember, Eric.
- 8:19Something else to consider is the difference in smoking rates
- 8:22among different groups in society. There are more smokers
- 8:26among men than women, and lower socioeconomic groups are more
- 8:30likely to smoke than higher socioeconomic groups, so there
- 8:34may be even more room for mortality improvements among
- 8:37these populations, assuming they reduce their rate of smoking.
- 8:41Eric Pickett: Yeah, that's a really good point. Al, we've
- 8:43recently seen higher mortality improvements among higher socio
- 8:46economic groups in the US, but from a smoking perspective,
- 8:50maybe there is more potential for future gains among lower
- 8:53socio economic groups. Also, actuaries must consider the
- 8:57prevalence and potential impact of movements from tobacco
- 9:00cigarettes to electronic smoking.
- 9:03Al Klein: Again, to monitor these developments, we'll need
- 9:05to monitor emerging data on tobacco related mortality and
- 9:09consider e cigarettes, but also public health efforts and
- 9:12changes in generational attitudes towards smoking. Now
- 9:16moving on to our next topic, alcohol and drug use. Present
- 9:21another lifestyle factor that will affect future mortality,
- 9:24morbidity and overall quality of life, while moderate alcohol use
- 9:28may not significantly impact mortality, and according to some
- 9:31studies, may even have a slightly positive effect on
- 9:34mortality. Heavy drinking and substance abuse are problems
- 9:38that contribute to premature deaths.
- 9:40Eric Pickett: As far as alcohol and recreational drugs are
- 9:43concerned, we again need to consider if there are any major
- 9:46changes to consumption that might develop over time, apart
- 9:50from the gradual relaxation of marijuana laws, it doesn't seem
- 9:53that major regulatory changes are on the horizon. However,
- 9:57there may be some generational changes in attitudes towards
- 10:00consumption. It seems that larger numbers of Gen Z may be
- 10:04turning towards sobriety, with a number of surveys showing
- 10:07abstinence from marijuana and alcohol reported in in higher
- 10:11numbers in younger generation.
- 10:13Al Klein: That is an interesting development. Another thing to
- 10:16keep an eye on is the impact on the recent COVID 19 pandemic.
- 10:20There was an increase in alcohol related deaths during the first
- 10:23few years of the pandemic, and the data is not yet in to show
- 10:27whether this effect has dissipated. And before we move
- 10:30on, we can't forget to mention the widely reported opioid
- 10:33crisis seen in the US over recent years that has
- 10:36significantly increased mortality in certain
- 10:39demographics, especially the working age, age bracket, the
- 10:44addictive nature of opioids makes this difficult to stop.
- 10:47Actuaries need to assess whether policies aimed at reducing
- 10:51addiction and overdose deaths, or even the availability of
- 10:54opioids will be effective in reversing this trend.
- 10:58Eric Pickett: Okay, so the final area for us to talk about today,
- 11:01then, is stress. Stress is often overlooked when we talk about
- 11:05mortality, but chronic stress can have an impact on health
- 11:08outcomes, contributing to higher levels of inflammation and
- 11:11increasing the risk of heart disease, stroke and cognitive
- 11:14decline. Actuaries should consider the long term impact of
- 11:17stress related diseases and the role of mental health support in
- 11:20reducing these risks.
- 11:22Al Klein: That's right, and I don't think the mental health
- 11:25issue is considered often enough. Another important thing
- 11:28for actuaries to consider here is the increase in stress levels
- 11:32through the COVID 19 pandemic. The American Psychological
- 11:35Association has warned that the nation is facing a mental health
- 11:38crisis that could yield serious health and social consequences
- 11:42for years to come, so this will be something to monitor in the
- 11:45future.
- 11:47Eric Pickett: Thanks Al, so listeners, we've now touched on
- 11:49the key areas of the chapter, and we hope that gives you a
- 11:52good overview of lifestyle considerations for future
- 11:55mortality before we both head off to the gym. Al, would you
- 11:59like to run through a summary of how you and Yair saw the likely
- 12:02impact for the general population.
- 12:05Al Klein: Yes of course, as a reminder at the end of each
- 12:07chapter, Yair and I included a table where we highlight the
- 12:11outlook for the impact on future mortality expectations of the
- 12:15different areas covered in the chapter, the key drivers
- 12:18included in the table for this chapter were diet and obesity,
- 12:22physical activity, smoking, addiction and stress. Of these
- 12:27drivers, we projected modest impacts in the short term, but
- 12:31we thought diet and obesity, as well as stress, were likely to
- 12:34have larger negative impacts on long term future mortality
- 12:38rates. Please remember that you need to adjust these
- 12:41expectations so they are relevant to the specific
- 12:44population for which you are predicting future mortality
- 12:47assumptions.
- 12:49Eric Pickett: Thanks. Al. So to summarize the key takeaways from
- 12:52today, then lifestyle factors play significant roles in
- 12:56shaping health outcomes and longevity, and they are one of
- 12:58the key determinants of differences in both current and
- 13:01future mortality rates between socio economic groups and
- 13:05geographical groups across the US. Reductions in smoking rates
- 13:09have made large contributions to mortality improvements over
- 13:12recent decades, but there is now a question around whether it is
- 13:15possible for these rates to reduce even further. We've seen
- 13:19increases to overweight and obesity levels in the US in
- 13:22recent years, likely driven by the changes in physical activity
- 13:25and diets. But how will this develop into the future, and
- 13:29what impact will new weight management drugs have? And a few
- 13:33other emerging questions that I will be keeping a close, close
- 13:36eye on are, will changing attitudes to things like alcohol
- 13:40consumption and exercise among younger generations, resulting
- 13:43greater mortality improvements in the future. And what long
- 13:46term impact has the COVID 19 pandemic had on lifestyle
- 13:50behaviors?
- 13:51Al Klein: Eric thanks for that summary. The only thing I will
- 13:53add is that while what to monitor makes a lot of sense,
- 13:57how to monitor it and predict the outcomes remains a
- 14:00challenge. That said, this is certainly an interesting and
- 14:04ever evolving field. That's it for now Listeners. Please join
- 14:09us for our next podcast where we'll be tackling the topic of
- 14:12inequality. Back to you, Ronora to close out this podcast.
- 14:17Ronora Stryker: Thanks Al and Eric. I really appreciate your
- 14:20time and sharing your thoughts and expertise about lifestyle
- 14:25and how it might impact future mortality. Okay, listeners,
- 14:32that's all we have time for today. Join us at the end of
- 14:35next month for our next episode, which is focused on chapter
- 14:39four, Inequality and its impact on longevity. We'd love to hear
- 14:44your feedback on this podcast series and thoughts on topics
- 14:48for future research. Just email us at Research-ML@soa.org.
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