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Ep. 86: From Empire Scottsdale GM to a run for Arizona State Senate, LD8 - Logan Walton’s wild ride · Adventures in Adversity: an inspirational podcast

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  I am so I'm like a kid on Christmas morning every time I
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  do this intro because I'm so grateful when anyone agrees to
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  sit down with me and share their life stories all about adversity
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  and overcoming it. So if you're new here, before I
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  introduce and hand it over to my amazing guest before we get into
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  that, my name is Bree. I am the host of this podcast.
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  Obviously, Adventures and Adversity is a collection of
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  stories. Really, what it is, is real
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  people telling true stories about how they have turned
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  life's adversity in its many, many forms.
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  We all know that into an adventure.
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  So I am super stoked for today because there's so many
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  questions I have for you, Logan. Logan Walton, welcome.
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  And I'd first of all, I wanted to thank you for sitting down
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  with me today. Yeah.
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  Thank you Brief for having me. It's a it's a pleasure to be on.
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  Yeah, no. And you were introduced to me.
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  I got to give a shout out to Adam, known by his Instagram as
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  Big Adam, the safest guy in town.
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  Like whenever you're around him, right?
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  He is a private security professional.
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  He was a few episodes ago. I can't even remember which one,
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  but just look, look down if you're scrolling for Adam
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  private security. Now, Logan, how do you know
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  Adam? So I worked with Adam at my
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  first like hospitality industry job in Scottsdale, AZ.
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  We were both doing door host jobs, so checking IDs, just
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  greeting gas, like sort of kind of simple stuff.
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  And then security stuff on the side as well, in case we were
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  ever dealing with, you know, people that were just trying to
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  cause problems. Yeah, so you met him.
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  OK, cool. So you know him and I know I'm
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  going to put all your information in the show notes,
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  but it's it sounds like you guys have got a great relationship
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  now and I just like love you guys both.
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  What I love about it is you both pump each other up and I love
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  just like the genuine like you can tell you both want each
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  other to succeed, which is amazing.
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  Yeah, I mean, it's, I mean, he does amazing work and he's such
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  a good dude and he's always hyping everybody.
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  He knows that. That's why everybody loves them.
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  He, he's a, he's amazing. I literally he's my new bestie.
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  Mine too, yeah. That is, yeah, totally.
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  He's like, yes, you could say that.
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  OK, so Logan, so we have let's see, we were introduced via Adam
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  via my producer Jack, shout out to you as well.
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  And you have so many facets of you.
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  I'm gonna brag about you for a second that I'm really
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  interested in. And the reason why is I think
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  there's a really interesting aspects of your life and and
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  things you're working towards and things you're doing now.
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  And I have no doubt that in each one of those areas, there's some
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  adversity. Yeah, absolutely.
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  It's been a, it's been, it's been a, it's been an interesting
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  ride the last decade or so. Yeah, yeah.
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  So where I'd like to start and then I will, I will stop
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  talking. That does happen.
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  First of all, I'm like kind of just like paint a picture of of
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  what you got going on and then I'm gonna let you tell your
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  story. So you are you are Logan, a
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  pretty cool guy. Here's why.
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  And he did not ask me to do this.
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  Guys, I'm telling you, he's a humble guy.
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  He is a political you are a political candidate for the 2026
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  Arizona State Senate candidate LD 8.
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  I'm looking at your Instagram here.
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  If you're wondering what I'm talking about, look in the show
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  notes for his Instagram. You are AGM at Empire
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  Scottsdale, which I'll let you talk about that as well.
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  Another thing, because I've been doing my research, you're also a
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  twin. Yeah.
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  You're. A twin.
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  You're like, I'm not a stalker. I was just doing my research.
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  Another cool thing about you. You played on the practice squad
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  for the Mercury? Yeah, with Sophie Cunningham and
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  all. Yep, just for a little bit.
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  Yeah, we had a couple years about it.
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  Yeah, very. Cool.
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  Yeah, so I just want to hear about your experiences.
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  I want to just like go into your story and just kind of learn
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  about who you are. And then I'm going to ask a
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  bunch of questions, but we're just going to have coffee and
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  chat. Yeah.
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  So, yeah. So I've lived down in Arizona
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  almost a dozen years now. So I've been that, moved down
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  here in 2014, originally went to ASU and then as well as Chandler
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  Gilbert Community College. And then from there I started
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  working in my hospitality industry.
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  So restaurants, bars, certain other venues and just kind of
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  learning anywhere from bussing, dishwashing, serving, cooking,
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  kind of did everything all at once at some points.
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  And so from there I made a jump over to door host Slash
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  security, working over there with Adam and just really
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  starting getting into that entertainment district and
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  meeting so many different walks of life, tourists, locals, kind
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  of everything. So I can really fell in love
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  with like how many people you get to meet out here in Arizona.
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  Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
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  OK. And then from there, I wanted to
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  make a sidestep away from the industry, kind of like burn out,
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  a lot of late nights, a lot of weekends missed and wanted to
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  try something else and something different.
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  So I started working for Uber in their risk and compliance
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  program. And while it's a great company
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  to work for and all the perks and all the different like type
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  of things, working for a high end tech company definitely
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  didn't feel as fulfilled as I was.
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  Like just meeting and greeting, you know, 200 faces a day,
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  different people and stories. And so I kind of was like
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  looking for an outlet and I messaged some old customers of
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  mine that I had known for about 3 or 4 years and I saw they were
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  building this venue and he happened to just be building a
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  bar tub was posted on his Instagram story.
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  So I DM Ed him and I was just like, hey, like you guys need
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  like a part time barter and everything.
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  I'm like, I'm bored at my regular job.
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  I need something to do. And he's like actually like I
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  wanted to talk to you. I was like, oh, so we go, isn't?
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  That convenient? And so kind of had some dumb
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  luck with it involved and we sat down, we talked about the vision
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  of what ended up becoming Empire Scottsdale.
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  And he kind of told me what his plan was for somebody to run the
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  operations and help build the culture and the space and kind
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  of just be a catch all so that they could focus on the bigger
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  picture things. And so that talked about
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  basically being the general manager of the space.
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  And so we tried it out for a month or so doing part time
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  work, filling in gaps and voids. And then about April, first,
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  second week of April, I had done my last day at Uber and was full
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  time into this role. And just yeah.
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  And from there, it's been almost two years coming up in March
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  that it's been actually open and we'll be 100 members deep.
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  We've got probably done over 100 events in the last two years and
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  fundraisers, nonprofits, just different sorts of corporate
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  events, you know, regular, we've even had even, you know, a
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  rehearsal dinner there. It's all sorts of different
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  stuff. Well, what's really cool is I
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  love that story because like for anyone listening, what started
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  with you, like I'm, I'm imagining you sitting at your
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  job being like, just, you know, that like speech bubble or like
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  thought bubble of like, I, I don't want to do this forever.
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  And then you just get an idea. You send a message.
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  And then he had been thinking, even if like he hadn't been
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  thinking about you. You took initiative.
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  And then it lined up and like, what a cool just from that one
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  little action, it changed the whole course of your your path.
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  Right. Yeah.
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  I mean, it's never, never thought I'd get a opportunity
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  off of Adm and let alone to a friend.
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  And you know, really great people that I've gotten to work
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  with him, him and his business partners are just amazing
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  individuals and I've been really honored to just be around them
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  and a bunch of other people in the network, as well as the
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  members that come to Empire, all just super impressive people.
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  And I'm just incredibly humbled. Well, and you are, you're a
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  humble guy. That's why you're friends with
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  Adam because you guys are both that you're like, you're like
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  very humble. It's your energy.
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  And I've gotten to know the venue through Adam.
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  So everyone who comes on, they become part of the adventures
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  university family. Then I'm, you know, checking
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  out, I'm following them and I'm like, empire, Scottsdale, Empire
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  Scottsdale, Empire Scottsdale. This place looks cool.
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  And then so I've gotten, and then I was looking at the
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  Instagram, which down below in the show notes.
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  Check it out, especially if you live in Arizona.
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  I love the culture of the posts and how you guys are very in
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  your communications, very transparent, direct.
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  I just really, I like the energy of what I'm even just seeing
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  from the page. Do you know what I mean?
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  I haven't been there yet. And, and so kudos to you for
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  that. It's got a good energy.
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  Yeah, we have a a really awesome partner.
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  His name's Raff. He does all the media stuff and
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  just coordinates with photographers and really high
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  quality editors and just like it's a it's a full team build
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  like it's, you know, six of us that are operating it and it's
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  all hands on. Even with, you know, all the Co
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  founders, they're just fully invested in this.
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  And you've done events. I've seen it's, which I think is
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  beautiful because especially like freedom of speech with
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  everything that's going on in the world, this space is a
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  gathering space not only for like celebrations, but for a lot
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  of important dialogue. Yeah, we've been.
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  Yeah. It's honestly really impressive.
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  We had some really fortunate where one of our members is
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  actually running a nonprofit that is about having dialogue
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  about tough topics with individual people that have
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  their own thought processes on it.
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  And, you know, shout out Arizona talks and Carlos, I mean, they
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  do amazing work there. And so we try to emulate that as
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  best we can by hosting, you know, the debate parties and the
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  Constitution base and, you know, trying to actually just bring
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  back common dialogue. Totally like let's respectfully
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  agree, disagree, coexist. But like let's like, let's like
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  use our brains and like come with a curious open mindset,
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  right? And then it's like, that's the
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  beauty of America, right? That old school like, OK, your
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  turn, my turn, let's go, you know, and then like shake
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  handshake. No, yeah, it's.
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  What I'm all about. Yeah, exactly.
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  I think it's just about having different opinions is a good
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  thing. It's about having that civic
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  dialogue back and just making sure we can problem solve
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  together, even if it's coming about different, different ways
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  about it. Absolutely now what a perfect
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  segue and again, please guys, check out the show notes if you,
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  especially if you live in Arizona and by the way, I've
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  already said if I'm coming through Arizona, that's a stop
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  I'm making. There's so many people I need to
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  come meet now. Civic dialogue, freedom of
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  speech. Wow.
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  I am so impressed by and, and like just, I, I've never
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  actually talked to somebody who's running for Senate.
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  Really cool. Yeah, until very recently,
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  neither did I. You're like, now I talk to him
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  every day in the mirror. Should practice it every day,
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  yeah. First of all, I just, and I
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  think it's amazing and I, I posted about it.
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  I'm really inspired by by leadership and people who have a
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  voice and want to chain make a change.
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  So first of all, just Congrats on taking that opportunity to
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  represent the state of Arizona and like everybody really.
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  So thank. You for that, I appreciate it.
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  Thank you so much. Yeah, it's a it's an honor.
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  It's a public service at the end of the day.
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  And I am really just blessed to just have my name in the hat and
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  have an opportunity to potentially represent Arizonans
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  and get things done. Yeah.
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  So take me back. Were you like sitting having
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  your coffee one day? Were you like, I'm going to run
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  for Senate or like, how does this come, come about?
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  So I've always been very interested in politics and the
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  civics that go on both in the United States, around the world
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  and in Arizona itself. I feel really attached to the
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  community having now been out here for 12 years, and I just
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  feel like there's more to be done, especially when you hear
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  about like, Arizona's a beautiful state, but it's not
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  perfect. And there's a lot of things that
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  we can do to help make it better, more prosperous for
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  people, get people built up from their bootstraps and getting
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  things accomplished for all Arizonans, you know, across the
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  aisle. It's really something that I've
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  just always been interested in and you know, having the time
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  separated where I have like a more normal 9 to 5 schedule
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  where I can actually plan things out in the evening weekends.
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  I'm able to get involved differently than I was before.
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  And it kind of brought back that spark of like, hey, there might
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  be an opportunity here. I was looking up where as I go,
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  should I do City Council? Should I do House what, you
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  know, what's available? And I noticed that Senate had
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  some close battles to it and that I reached out and found out
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  that the prior Republican candidate wasn't going to be
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  running this time around and so decided that that would be the
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  opportunity to put my name in the hat.
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  You know, I know it's a high-ranking seat for the state,
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  state Senate to go up there. And you know, I just wanted to
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  be a part of it and just be a part of this journey.
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  I I I think it's so bad ass. I'm sorry.
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  Like it's just I'm, I'm, I really think it's so cool and
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  especially the reason. I mean, I think it's cool, but I
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  also in in getting ready for our chat, I heard a couple of sound
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  bites from you that I'm so aligned with.
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  You were talking about specific. And by the way, I know we can't
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  cover your whole platform on this episode.
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  Maybe we'll just maybe we'll have to have you back by the
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  way. Absolutely, I'd be happy to.
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  You mentioned and I mentioned to my husband, he was like, yes, I
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  love this. You talked about bringing back
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  financial literacy courses and then or I don't know if we've
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  ever had them, bringing those into like younger and then
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  bringing back the trades. And yeah, and Arizona does a
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  pretty good job of some of this. Anyways, I had the opportunity
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  this past week to visit Westwood High School and Mountain View
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  High School. And they do across Arizona
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  actually does have a lot of trade programs out in Florence.
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  There's welding programs available.
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  So now it's just about making more of these certifications and
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  apprenticeships more available for students and having more
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  private sector visitors come in like Mountain View.
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  They bring in like an orthodontist, a surgeon, other
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  people in the trades industry just to talk to students.
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  They'll do trade fairs and have things come in.
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  So just getting that where it's more set in stone on a
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  foundation where it's common ground for every school to do
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  this or start building pathways for students to find themselves
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  and make decision what they want to do post secondary education,
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  you know, because you know, college isn't for everybody.
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  And I think there's a lot of opportunities.
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  Arizona grows across the board that we're going to need people
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  for every industry, even with AI and all that stuff happening.
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  Totally, and I think it's you know, I have AI live in
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  California, so don't even get me started.
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  But hey, listen, I've had all people on this podcast.
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  This is a this is a freedom of speech podcast.
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  Anyone out there who disagrees anything I say, I invite you to
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  come talk to me with respect. But California has some issues.
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  Just saying. What I love is that as a mother,
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  I have a 8 1/2 and a 10 1/2 year old boy and girl.
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  I'm like, I want you to do what you love.
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  I don't want you to, I mean like working with your hands,
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  Carpenter, electrician, like these are I'm like blown away by
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  what these people can do. And then you can build a
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  business if you love it and you can have and then you need
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  coaching on how to do that early on.
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  Like why do you have to go sit in a classroom if you don't want
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  to be like behind a deck? Like it doesn't make sense.
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  Yeah, and it's it's got to be a balance of both is what it needs
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  to be. We want students to be able to
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  have some critical thinking skills, have some actual
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  practice at problem solving and deduction.
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  And then that comes from your common courses.
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  As much as we would love to shake it up, I still as well
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  that's an option. I want still there to be where
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  they're getting more elective opportunities to explore
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  pathways. Got it.
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  So it's just it's options and and flexibility and pathways.
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  That's a great. It's not like doing away with
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  reading and writing. It's what?
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  It's the whole spectrum. Yeah.
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  Life skills. Exactly.
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  Yeah, it's just giving people more choice and more options.
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  And with more choices comes more freedom.
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  I love that because that's what the you want, that freedom of
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  thought, freedom of choice to pursue whatever life, liberty,
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  the pursuit of happiness, whatever that means for you,
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  right? Yeah.
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  And even like to find what you're not like, what you don't
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  like. I think that's the best of it.
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  If I've done so many different, you know, jobs trying to figure
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  out or learning different things that I absolutely didn't like at
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  the end of the day and I needed to pivot.
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  And I think if we allow that to happen earlier, kids will find
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  that in Pivot and create a course, and then they'll find
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  what they'll really love and they'll go all in on it.
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  That's a great point. It's the growth mindset, right?
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  And like process of elimination too, Like you're not going to
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  find the dream on the first maybe class you take where
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  you're like this is it. Or maybe you're lucky and you do
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  and you're like, this is it. But for for a lot of us, the
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  path is try that doesn't fulfill me, try that you you figure it
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  out. Yep.
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  And so I just want to give a little background on for US
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  political newbies as far as like learning how the system works.
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  And then I'll just would love to get your opinion.
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  So the Arizona State Senate, it's the upper House of the I'm
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  looking here at my little research, the upper House of the
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  Arizona Legislature Legislature, right.
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  So, and for again, political newbie here, every state has two
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  senators, right? So and then it says the, the
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  types of things that if you're elected, you will write and vote
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  on state laws like schools, state taxes, criminal law,
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  housing, gun rules, water. You'll help and create and
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  approve the state budget, confirm or reject governor
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  appointments, vote on impeachment, removal of state
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  officials. Wow, this is cool.
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  This is cool. And for Arizona to kind of go a
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  little more depth and do it, it goes basically there's a 30
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  districts in it. So each just to break it down,
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  while there is 2 state senators, it's actually one Senate seat
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  per district and there's 30 districts and then there's 2
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  Congress seats or House seats. So you get 60 people in the
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  House, 30 people in the Senate, and then from there, so it's
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  really a small group of people making decisions for the state
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  and, you know, just trying to make sure that we do the right
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  thing. Amazing what a what like and you
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  said this early on what an honor to to and you know if all works
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  out like even just. Again, I think even the process
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  of you running is is going is probably already teaching you a
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  lot about yourself and life. Yes, I, it's been a big learning
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  curve. Obviously I've never ran for
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  office prior to this. And so just, I'm very fortunate
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  to just kind of always be able loud to pick people's brains and
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  ask people who have been through the gauntlet before me and kind
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  of figure out what's the best route to go.
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  How do I get this done? How do I make sure I file on
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  time and it's kind of like learning a new skill set all
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  over again? A. 100% like what a it's
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  certainly the actual logistics of it, right, like the filing,
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  the learning, what do I need to do by when?
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  And then also you're probably getting clear on your stance and
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  then like you, you're already out talking to Arizonans.
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  It's like that's part of who you are in your career.
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  So it's that's amazing. Yeah, I'm lucky to not be shy.
• 21:03
  I know the feeling. I know the feeling.
• 21:06
  People are like you never stop talking.
• 21:07
  I'm like, I know, I know. I'm working on it.
• 21:11
  No, I gosh, OK, so many questions.
• 21:14
  So so you've the passion has been there.
• 21:18
  You're you're you're on the train towards and the election
• 21:22
  is in November. Again, I'm just like, I'm the
• 21:25
  newbie here. So it's November is is what
• 21:28
  you're working towards coming? November, yes, correct.
• 21:32
  If I were to be, if I did have another opponent in the primary,
• 21:35
  we we'd have that in I believe July or early August and then.
• 21:39
  But since there is nobody primary against me, it's just me
• 21:42
  trying to get enough name brand recognition, hand face in front
• 21:45
  of faces and getting to the people before November.
• 21:49
  Amazing. Amazing what?
• 21:53
  OK, so let's just go hypothetical.
• 21:56
  And again, I'm not trying to grill you.
• 21:57
  I'm. Just excited for you.
• 21:59
  Your excitement, by the way, this isn't a grill you kind of
• 22:04
  podcast. I'm I'm it's just not not my my
• 22:08
  style. If you were like the the first
• 22:12
  month you get elected, you're like soaking it up.
• 22:16
  It seems like you're already out in the community.
• 22:19
  Like what would you? What do you imagine that those
• 22:22
  first couple months might be like?
• 22:24
  Like again, I know you've never done it so you don't know, but.
• 22:28
  I would say for me is just studying with the docket like
• 22:31
  what what do this what is the House and Senate already kind of
• 22:34
  have prepared and what's going to be voted on coming up.
• 22:37
  And then from there, reaching out to local experts and people
• 22:40
  in the valley to find out what their opinions on it and just
• 22:43
  listening to people before actually going in and meeting
• 22:46
  with my, you know, my fellow Senate members and stuff like
• 22:50
  that. For me, I just want to get the
• 22:53
  rains of things, learn the schedule, kind of make sure I
• 22:56
  show up on time. I'm representing Arizona well
• 22:59
  and that from there it's learning that docket and making
• 23:03
  sure that I'm an educated vote coming into it and doing my
• 23:06
  research, doing homework. So the docket and again I'm
• 23:10
  learning here. Thank you for the education.
• 23:13
  The docket is what is potentially going to be voted on
• 23:17
  and passed, is that right? Yes, and not necessarily that'll
• 23:20
  actually come to a vote, but whatever either side has planned
• 23:24
  for what they want to get brought to the floor and what
• 23:27
  gets voted up from the House itself and kind of just
• 23:30
  understanding and reading up on what's written.
• 23:33
  Yeah, so it sounds like you you're going to be a sponge.
• 23:38
  And I love that you said, listen, because you're, I mean,
• 23:43
  it's just with the political climate today, I love that
• 23:47
  Someone Like You is running because you're, you're so
• 23:49
  authentic. Like it's just, you can't fake
• 23:52
  that. Like, you know, and I, I, I, I,
• 23:55
  I love authenticity, whether you're left, right, center, I'm
• 23:59
  all about just be authentic and like, be who you are and like
• 24:03
  present who you are. I think, gosh, where was I going
• 24:07
  with that? I was going somewhere good.
• 24:11
  You're good. It's coming.
• 24:11
  Welcome to my brain. It's right there.
• 24:14
  You're oh, so you're, you're listening because really the
• 24:21
  definition of, of, of a public representative is to collect,
• 24:26
  kind of collect all the voice of the people, right?
• 24:29
  You're it's not just your voice, it's voice of the people.
• 24:33
  And then you're then like kind of being our our, then you
• 24:37
  translate our voice, right, or the Arizona citizens, is that
• 24:41
  correct? Yeah, it's about being a
• 24:43
  champion for the people at the end of the day, and whether I
• 24:47
  have my beliefs or how I view things.
• 24:49
  If my constitutes don't feel the same way, then I need to make
• 24:52
  sure I'm reflecting and seeing where I need to adjust and be
• 24:57
  able to make sure I'm representing everyone on that,
• 25:01
  on the point and you know, playing devil's advocate still
• 25:05
  and looking at the pros and cons and then still deciding at the
• 25:09
  end of the day what I believe is the best decision, but making
• 25:12
  sure I still hear all the voices first.
• 25:14
  Yeah, yeah. So it sounds like a lot of
• 25:17
  research, a lot of listening, a lot of you really got a discern
• 25:24
  discernment. And then just politics in
• 25:26
  general, like I love like even at work or any, any situation,
• 25:30
  you're like the politics of this, the politics of this, the
• 25:33
  politics of this. Now you're going into politics.
• 25:36
  So there's politics of politics, holy politics.
• 25:42
  But I think all on both sides, the people that inspire me in
• 25:48
  speeches and in whether it's whatever medium I see them, I'm
• 25:52
  like, that person is real. They're real, you know.
• 25:58
  So when you think about politics, history, like what has
• 26:03
  always what, who is it? Someone in your family, is it
• 26:08
  what inspires you or who inspires you?
• 26:13
  Sort of like that's a big question, but however you'd like
• 26:17
  to answer it. I would, I would say first and
• 26:19
  foremost, my parents, they they built the foundation for who I
• 26:23
  am as a person and my dad really play is really good about
• 26:27
  playing both sides of things and just being able to have multiple
• 26:33
  viewpoints of something. Even if I have to look at it
• 26:35
  through the lens of people I think are totally wrong.
• 26:38
  It's making sure that cuz having that viewpoint, cuz there's a
• 26:44
  good book he read a long time ago and he quotes quotes from
• 26:47
  time to time. I can't draw it off the top of
• 26:48
  my head, but everybody thinks they're the good guy.
• 26:52
  Is was was the quote. So it's how do I look through
• 26:55
  the lens of that part person viewing me as the bad guy and
• 26:58
  where can I find the pros and cons of my viewpoints and where
• 27:01
  can we find that common ground and how do we move forward to
• 27:04
  again solve a problem at the end of the day?
• 27:08
  That's such a good. There it is.
• 27:10
  That's the clip. Yeah, no, I always am.
• 27:12
  Like, that's something I'm going to be thinking about for a
• 27:14
  couple days now. Everybody thinks they're the
• 27:16
  good guy. That is because we all have ego,
• 27:20
  right? And we're all like, no, we've,
• 27:21
  we know this for sure. Like I know for sure there's no
• 27:25
  way you're going to change my mind.
• 27:26
  And maybe that is the case, but I think it shows a lot of
• 27:29
  humility and like intelligence and to be like, hold on, but
• 27:35
  let's just hear it. Let's hear it.
• 27:37
  Let's let's look at it, right? That's so important because as
• 27:43
  my husband says too, there's two things can be true.
• 27:46
  Tell me if you agree at at the same time they're they're it's
• 27:50
  not black. Nothing is black and white, is
• 27:51
  it? No, I think no, not at all.
• 27:54
  I think it's, there's multi things that play into decision
• 27:58
  making and how we get our viewpoints.
• 28:00
  And we, if we're not constantly changing our viewpoints and
• 28:05
  learning from it, then we're being stubborn intentionally.
• 28:10
  And I, and I think it's, it's about being lifelong learners.
• 28:13
  I've not been 100% correct my whole life.
• 28:16
  I think that would give me a God complex if it did.
• 28:19
  And I've been wrong on several occasions and been corrected and
• 28:24
  I've had to learn from it, go delt deeper.
• 28:26
  And that's why I really want to make sure research is on top of
• 28:28
  it, you know? And from there, I've learned
• 28:30
  from it like, it's good to be wrong sometimes.
• 28:35
  Oh, that's a good one. It's good to be wrong.
• 28:37
  It's a real reminder of like nobody knows everything.
• 28:44
  You just don't. And like you said, it's really
• 28:46
  important. If you think you do or you think
• 28:48
  you know mostly everything, then you then we're getting into like
• 28:50
  some dangerous territory, like psychologically like.
• 28:53
  That's yeah, yeah. You have to still make the
• 28:56
  decision and trust that you're doing what you believe is best
• 28:59
  for everyone. And sometimes it works out,
• 29:02
  sometimes it doesn't. But you got to still go with
• 29:04
  what you believe is the right decision at the end of the day.
• 29:08
  Yeah, OK. Question about the process, what
• 29:13
  two-part question. What has been the coolest thing
• 29:18
  about running so far? And then what has been something
• 29:26
  pretty challenging about running?
• 29:28
  And, and take your time if you need to think about it, but I'm
• 29:31
  sure there's a little bit of both.
• 29:34
  Yeah, yeah, I would say I think the coolest thing is just seeing
• 29:37
  how excited people get is just, and just like that one, that
• 29:42
  somebody is just actually wanting to put their name in the
• 29:45
  hat. Like it's people are just
• 29:47
  generally awesome about just being excited for me, even if
• 29:51
  they, you know, not even if they're not going to vote for
• 29:53
  me. The day OAF people have been
• 29:55
  real. Arizonans are really, really
• 29:56
  nice out here. I don't know what anybody else
• 29:59
  says, but I think just so much sunshine.
• 30:01
  How can you be upset? And even people that I know will
• 30:04
  probably not likely vote for me in November.
• 30:06
  They're just saying, you know, everybody gives you a Congrats.
• 30:08
  And just it's I think that's why Arizona's beautiful as a
• 30:12
  battleground state. It's just there's a lot of
• 30:14
  already of that civics and civil dialogue involved here already.
• 30:18
  And I think that's why it is always going to be a good
• 30:21
  battleground state. That's awesome.
• 30:24
  That's really cool. I'm glad to hear that because
• 30:26
  that's what that even people on the other side of maybe policies
• 30:31
  are like they, they, they're happy to see you participating
• 30:34
  in like democracy. Yes, yeah.
• 30:36
  That's super cool. OK, super cool.
• 30:40
  And then I would say the most challenging part is definitely
• 30:43
  is how much time it actually takes them off.
• 30:44
  Definitely underestimated at first.
• 30:47
  What it all takes to kind of 1 is like just been learning about
• 30:50
  the civics. I've been in a Valley leadership
• 30:53
  program since probably like the last four or five months and
• 30:56
  just kind of trying to learn everything that's going on
• 30:58
  Arizona, listening to different speakers on different Zoom
• 31:01
  calls, team team kind of meetings.
• 31:04
  And just, you know, as well as like having to get on the
• 31:07
  phones, go set up, meeting, set up, you know, greet the
• 31:11
  candidates stuff and just get signatures, all the little stuff
• 31:15
  for kind of boots on the ground stuff.
• 31:17
  I've now fortunately started working with a consulting team
• 31:20
  to start making it a little more easier on myself.
• 31:22
  But it's a I'm learning the time commitment and I'm preparing for
• 31:26
  a bigger time commitment as we get closer.
• 31:28
  And from there it's just trying to create that balance of making
• 31:32
  sure I put the right effort in. Yep.
• 31:35
  And then like getting in the self-care and the sleep and the
• 31:39
  family time and the exercise, right?
• 31:42
  And the job. It's a lot.
• 31:45
  Yeah, it's Empire has a lot of different hours, especially when
• 31:49
  we do events and we have people doing conference meetings and
• 31:52
  different stuff and the people that come in to Co work in the
• 31:56
  space need different needs, AV needs and stuff throughout the
• 32:00
  day. So where hours can range for me
• 32:04
  it's but luckily I'm been pretty organized.
• 32:07
  I've good Google Calendar and you know, I've got some really
• 32:11
  good team around me and some staff that works for me that's
• 32:14
  really starting to get the hang of things.
• 32:15
  And so that'll start to open up that gap for me to go a full
• 32:18
  bore into this coming up. Yeah, well, it sounds like your
• 32:22
  experience as a general manager, which basically you got your
• 32:28
  hands in everything and then you're a, you're in a leadership
• 32:31
  position, your customer facing your leading employees, you're
• 32:37
  managing budgets. It's almost like it's been
• 32:42
  preparing you for the next venture.
• 32:46
  You know, if you're elected, you've been running operations
• 32:50
  and communications and dialogue and it, it seems like a, a
• 32:56
  really good like runway to this next, next chapter.
• 33:00
  Yeah, I think it's done a lot to, you know, sharpen my skill
• 33:04
  set in terms of how I, you know, work with people, talk with
• 33:06
  people. I'm meeting a lot of very high
• 33:09
  level professionals. So learning kind of like their
• 33:12
  inner workings. I get to pick their brains a lot
• 33:14
  just because I'm in the space with them.
• 33:16
  And so it's like a new mastermind every day for me
• 33:19
  because it's just the life experience that some of these
• 33:23
  guys have and some of these girls that are in there that I
• 33:26
  would never have prior to this. And I get to, you know,
• 33:31
  vicariously live through them and see kind of like the trials
• 33:34
  and errors of how they got to where they are and, you know,
• 33:37
  what their business are doing, their day-to-day lives, how are
• 33:39
  they handling everything is, you know, everybody's really the
• 33:42
  same at the end of the day. It's like it's incredible.
• 33:46
  And you as you are obviously all about talking to people and
• 33:50
  listening and on this podcast, I'm just like the things I hear.
• 33:57
  I'm like, wow, every single person you walk by in the
• 34:01
  grocery store, every single person you drive by, they have a
• 34:06
  story that has things that you're just like, what, how?
• 34:10
  How did you handle that? Wow, you really got whoa, you
• 34:14
  turn that around how? And they're like, I'll tell you
• 34:16
  how. And you're like, OK, like that's
• 34:19
  really valuable knowledge. It's, it's just a very, again, I
• 34:24
  guess I'm very blessed to be a part of it and even have the
• 34:27
  opportunity to be in the same room as some of these people.
• 34:30
  Yeah, gosh. So you are like you're, you're
• 34:34
  managing right now. You're managing Empire
• 34:38
  Scottsdale, you're running for Senate.
• 34:40
  Your parents must be so proud of you.
• 34:44
  I mean, I mean, you said you have a relationship with your
• 34:46
  dad. What does your your pop think
• 34:48
  about all this? Yo, he's, he thinks I'm crazy.
• 34:56
  He's, but he's so happy for me and just super supportive,
• 34:59
  always asking how it's going. But he's, he just laughs at me
• 35:04
  sometimes. He's just like, he's like, you
• 35:06
  know, you could have waited to do this down the line.
• 35:08
  And I'm like, no, I don't think so.
• 35:10
  I think I only think I'm ready now.
• 35:11
  And he's, you know, he's always supported him and my mom have
• 35:15
  always been, you know, they all, they kind of, they guide
• 35:18
  loosely. They, you know, they'll give
• 35:19
  their warnings and they'll give their, you know, their
• 35:22
  premonitions and, but at the end of the day, they, they support
• 35:25
  me 100% and I'm just very happy to have their backing.
• 35:31
  That's really cool. That's really cool.
• 35:33
  I I have a similar relationship with my parents in that, you
• 35:37
  know, they drop the little Nuggets, especially like with
• 35:40
  the podcast and stuff. Yeah, they're like, OK, you
• 35:45
  know, and then my brother, he's like, hey, and I'm like, OK, OK,
• 35:48
  you're fine. You're right.
• 35:49
  I know, because. But it's just like it, it's
• 35:53
  really cool to have family behind you and friends like Adam
• 35:57
  and people in your life that when you go on these adventures
• 36:02
  that you're like, not sure how this is going to work out, but I
• 36:04
  really feel like I want to. They're like, all right, you're
• 36:07
  a little nuts, but we got you and do it.
• 36:11
  Yeah, they, they, they know I'm a risk taker and that I'm
• 36:15
  competitive and they're, they're just like, all right, just let
• 36:20
  him do it. He's going to do it anyway, so.
• 36:23
  Exactly. You got enough stubbornness
• 36:25
  where you'll respectfully listen, but you're like, yeah,
• 36:27
  so I'm going to do it. But thanks.
• 36:31
  So Speaking of you. And again, I'm going all over
• 36:34
  the place. We went through the.
• 36:35
  GM to almost Senator to I'm gonna gonna be a senator.
• 36:39
  My fingers crossed for you. If I live in Arizona.
• 36:43
  If I lived in Arizona, I would, I would totally look at all your
• 36:46
  policies and then, you know, consider voting for you because.
• 36:49
  I have always. Do my research.
• 36:51
  Absolutely, as you should. You should, yes, but I would I
• 36:55
  would be open to to considering it just as everyone else should
• 37:00
  be Who's listening in Arizona? You also have a twin brother,
• 37:06
  which I think is super cool. Yeah, I know.
• 37:08
  Yeah. That's, that's my best friend.
• 37:10
  That's, you know, we're, we've been roommates for life.
• 37:14
  So it's we still, we still both rent out here in Arizona.
• 37:18
  We still live together. So he's, you know, just down the
• 37:20
  hall hanging out. So we're all supposed to get
• 37:24
  together later this evening. We're all gonna get a bunch of
• 37:26
  our buddies together and go bowling.
• 37:28
  We just turned 30 on Tuesday, so.
• 37:31
  Congrats. Yeah.
• 37:33
  Thank you. Thank.
• 37:34
  You well, the reason why I know is I when I was prepping for the
• 37:36
  interview, I I saw this really adorable picture on your
• 37:41
  Instagram of like you guys eating ice cream.
• 37:44
  Yes, and like. And then I was like, wait.
• 37:46
  And then I like scrolling. I'm like, wait, birthday twin,
• 37:50
  happy birthday, boy. He's a twin.
• 37:52
  Like, I think it's cool. I just think it's cool to have
• 37:57
  somebody that probably understands you in an incredible
• 38:00
  way. Yeah, he's, it's a, we have a,
• 38:03
  you know, it's, I wouldn't call it twin telepathy, but we
• 38:06
  definitely feel, we definitely don't need very many words to
• 38:09
  kind of feel each other out and see how if someone's doing good
• 38:12
  or anything like that. And we're both very, very direct
• 38:16
  with each other. So there's no, you know, there's
• 38:18
  no sugar coating or anything around here.
• 38:20
  And you know, we, we've he'll tell me, he'll tell me it's
• 38:25
  straight. I'll tell him straight.
• 38:26
  And but I will say he's much more of the Zen and he's he's
• 38:32
  more, you know, man of very few words.
• 38:35
  But he's he's a riot once he defrosts that you know, he's
• 38:38
  he's an awesome brother and he's you know, he'll he'll our older
• 38:42
  brother. Sorry if I if I don't say it
• 38:44
  correctly, he'll get he'll let me know.
• 38:46
  Couple minutes. 15 or so it's we, we, we debate on if it's 15
• 38:51
  or 16, but he'll I'll say 15 for him today.
• 38:56
  Wow, 15 minutes older. Yeah, that's great.
• 39:01
  I love it. I love just the whole like when
• 39:05
  you can just be so real with someone where you're like the
• 39:07
  first thing they say, like you haven't seen them, they walk in
• 39:10
  and they're like, what are you wearing?
• 39:11
  And you're like, no, hi. You know, it's just like that's
• 39:15
  just like that's, that's my brother, my older brother.
• 39:17
  He's actually 3 1/2 years older, but he walks in and I'm like,
• 39:20
  just don't even talk. Just I.
• 39:22
  Can. Tell you're going to make fun of
• 39:24
  me right now. And I, yeah, he's.
• 39:26
  Not. Ready.
• 39:27
  OK. He we, we're so he's just
• 39:29
  awesome man. I best friend forever.
• 39:32
  And you know, we've been through so much together, ups and downs
• 39:36
  and just, you know, we both moved out here together
• 39:40
  originally from Oregon and so we've been OK yeah.
• 39:44
  So tandem duo forever since so, you know, we've followed each
• 39:47
  other out to this, you know, beautiful state.
• 39:50
  And yeah, one day, one day we'll both be working on probably
• 39:54
  getting our own homes, building our families.
• 39:56
  And I won't, we won't live in the same 4 walls anymore and
• 39:58
  it'll I'll have to get used to that.
• 40:01
  Listen, you actually, here's the thing, you don't because guess
• 40:04
  what? My brother lived 75 steps away.
• 40:11
  So just saying like literally we've been here 10 years.
• 40:14
  He was here 11 years and I got a text.
• 40:17
  We were renting, we were looking for houses.
• 40:19
  And he goes, his wife was like, hey, come check out on, you
• 40:22
  know, over here. And I was like, OK, we'll put an
• 40:25
  offer. I'm like, but but we're not
• 40:27
  going to get it. So and we got it.
• 40:29
  And I'm like, I'm like, we're moving in.
• 40:33
  And so it's literally the the dream.
• 40:37
  Like my nieces running back and forth, like my parents stop by
• 40:42
  and like drop off Mac and cheese and then drop off.
• 40:45
  It's like the dream. Yeah, it's that's it sounds like
• 40:48
  the perfect neighborhood. Yeah, exactly.
• 40:51
  Yeah, we. It's so much fun.
• 40:53
  We we grew up in such a cool neighborhood back home in
• 40:56
  Beaverton. Like, I mean, I think in 30
• 40:59
  households around the little cul-de-sac area, there's
• 41:03
  probably like 30 to 40 kids all within like 5 or 6 years of age.
• 41:07
  And so we had just, you know, when you picture those like old
• 41:11
  school summers of kids being outside bikes and yards, all the
• 41:14
  stuff, you know, capture the flag games, all that, we did it
• 41:17
  all. And so it's really cool to hear
• 41:21
  that there's other neighborhoods still trying to be like that.
• 41:23
  And we miss, I miss seeing it a lot.
• 41:26
  I miss, I think the idea of people being outside and around
• 41:29
  each other is a little bit of a loss of the waywards kind of.
• 41:36
  Yeah, it is. Literally it's and I grew up
• 41:40
  same Irvine, CA, tons of kids like DJs and the block parties
• 41:46
  and like the moms, the moms were like, OK, and like, I'm just
• 41:50
  keeping it real there. I'm like, oh, it's happy hour
• 41:52
  time. That's when the moms sit with
• 41:54
  that lemonade stuff. By the way, they were all,
• 41:58
  everything was taken care of. They had earned it.
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  But I was like, the moms are going to sit at the red table
• 42:03
  and we're going to run around and they're going to drink the
• 42:05
  yellow lemonade. Apparently we're not allowed to
• 42:08
  drink. Yeah, no, we don't know.
• 42:10
  They just play and then the dads are grilling and then we run
• 42:13
  over here like it was just the classic, you know, the classic
• 42:18
  upbringing. But it sounds like, again, I'm
• 42:21
  like, going all over the place. But your stories are reminding
• 42:24
  me of, like, just the simple things we want to bring back
• 42:28
  different jobs, different people coming together, you know, not
• 42:33
  always being on phones. Like, again, I have a podcast,
• 42:36
  I'm on social media. There's a place for it, but but
• 42:39
  we got to like get outside. Yeah, it's got to be able to be
• 42:44
  face to face and seeing people on, you know, as much as social
• 42:47
  media has connected us, I think it's over connected us where we
• 42:50
  feel burnt out before even going to see each other and people.
• 42:53
  And you know, I we eliminated like, you know, the old saying
• 42:57
  distance makes the heart grow fonder, but we can text people
• 43:00
  immediately. We can constantly see their
• 43:02
  updates on Instagram and stuff and you know I'm not innocent of
• 43:05
  that either. I obviously my Instagram page
• 43:07
  has a bunch of photos. I follow a ton of people and I
• 43:10
  get definitely have got caught doing scrolling before.
• 43:13
  Oh. For sure.
• 43:15
  And so, you know, but I am very fortunate to be able to plan
• 43:20
  stuff with my friends and meet up, go to rec basketball stuff,
• 43:23
  still go and scorekeep at Chandler Gilbert Community
• 43:25
  College. Like just people got to put
• 43:27
  themselves out that and just put the energy forward to be, you
• 43:31
  know, in public and be around other people and not through
• 43:36
  technology. It's.
• 43:38
  Totally. It's balance.
• 43:39
  Like I'm telling you I could, I was guilty of doom scrolling
• 43:44
  last week. I went into like a little bit of
• 43:46
  like a despair hole. I'm open.
• 43:49
  I'm like, guys, I'm struggling. I need to, the news is freaking
• 43:52
  me out and I'm freaking out like I and then I'm very open and now
• 43:57
  I'm like, OK, you haven't taken a walk and then you need to walk
• 44:00
  the dog and go work out and take a take a, take a beat, take a
• 44:05
  beat because you can get down this rabbit hole of what's real,
• 44:09
  what's not. I don't know what's real.
• 44:11
  I'm freaking out and not even trying to go down that rabbit
• 44:15
  hole. But with, with the political
• 44:18
  climate and all this news coming out, you've got like so many
• 44:22
  headlines and I, I just wonder like, what is your perspective
• 44:27
  on staying informed? But also like what, what do we
• 44:33
  believe? What do we not believe?
• 44:35
  Like I, I'm not, I don't know even sometimes I don't even
• 44:37
  know. But I'm like, I want to be
• 44:38
  informed, but I don't, I don't want to be, it's over.
• 44:41
  I don't know what to do as a citizen at this point.
• 44:45
  I don't even know what I'm saying.
• 44:48
  You know what? I.
• 44:48
  Mean yeah, the biggest power we have is the power to vote and
• 44:53
  the, you know, it's one of our strongest rights.
• 44:55
  It's that decision part of like, as we've learned more going
• 44:58
  across this, you know, weird times that it's been as of late
• 45:03
  and really looking at who do we want to represent us going
• 45:08
  forward and making sure that they are genuine people.
• 45:12
  They are have the good intentions of the people that
• 45:15
  they're trying to represent at heart.
• 45:17
  And that's where the IT most can be said.
• 45:20
  And but for other than that, the best is to do is stay informed.
• 45:24
  Don't let it bring you down. Control.
• 45:26
  We can control at this time still do good.
• 45:29
  Be neighborly to your friends, your neighbors, and do
• 45:32
  everything you can to try to uplift the people around you.
• 45:35
  That's the best way we can to be prosperous and to really look
• 45:40
  after one another as best as we can.
• 45:41
  And when the time comes to come together as a community and pick
• 45:45
  our representatives is pick wisely, know who you're voting
• 45:49
  for, make sure they're not doing this for nefarious deeds.
• 45:53
  And that's the best we can do. That's, you know, it's not
• 45:57
  probably not the answer people want to hear.
• 46:00
  It's, it's a slow process. But that's why our Constitution
• 46:03
  was made that way, so that our government does move slow, but
• 46:06
  it's to make sure that we can make the right corrections along
• 46:09
  the way. Nothing gets solved in the two
• 46:11
  or four years between. It's a 10 year, 20 year process
• 46:14
  to make sure we can get this done.
• 46:16
  And I want immediate results as well.
• 46:18
  Trust me. I want to see, I want to see
• 46:21
  some things done that I don't believe are being done from our
• 46:24
  federal government and in terms of the Epstein files and such as
• 46:29
  like that. And that's across the board for
• 46:32
  everybody involved. Guilty or protecting people is
• 46:38
  not OK, but there. But from there, we should make
• 46:42
  sure that we're looking towards the future and bringing in
• 46:46
  candidates that aren't representing that who are from
• 46:48
  new blood and you keep on keeping on the best we can.
• 46:55
  Thank you. No, thank you for answering
• 46:57
  that. I know it's not like an easy
• 46:58
  topic, but you're a, you are a guy who's talking and, and
• 47:02
  keeping it real. And I appreciate that about you.
• 47:05
  And so, yeah, it's just been, it's, I am a great believer in
• 47:11
  the Constitution. I, you know, grew up and, and
• 47:16
  just Full disclosure, like my mom, my mom is South African.
• 47:20
  She's now an American citizen. Like went through the whole
• 47:22
  process. My dad is like old school East
• 47:25
  Coast Irish, Italian. Like, you know, he's like, like
• 47:32
  incapable of bullshit. As I say, not be fake.
• 47:37
  You just can't take it or leave it.
• 47:40
  My mom has a little more of a filter, but my point being, I
• 47:45
  was raised to love this country, but not too blindly be like I
• 47:51
  must love country, but I, I love this country.
• 47:54
  I'm it's all over my podcast, the American flag.
• 47:57
  I'm I love this country. I'm struggling with what's
• 48:00
  happening right now with how it's being handled.
• 48:04
  But I, I have faith that there are good people, good people
• 48:08
  like you, good people. I know there are good.
• 48:10
  There's good and bad in everything.
• 48:12
  Like you said across the board, left, right, this is just like a
• 48:17
  humanity issue, right? We've all gotta, it's like it's
• 48:22
  it's just, it's hard to process. If you've been following my
• 48:26
  social media, you're like, yeah, we know you've been having a
• 48:28
  hard time, but I'm better now. But I just, I wanna look forward
• 48:35
  and I'm I couldn't have, you couldn't have timed this
• 48:39
  interview better like to just I needed to talk to somebody who's
• 48:43
  like, calm down. We need to do it.
• 48:47
  You're part of the solution. Yeah, I'm trying to be.
• 48:50
  Absolutely. You're trying to be.
• 48:51
  You're trying to be through transparent politics.
• 48:54
  Yeah. It's just being honest.
• 48:56
  I think I don't. As much as people want to try to
• 48:59
  dance around their words and stuff, I know people either
• 49:03
  gonna love me or hate me based on what I say.
• 49:05
  I'm sure there's sound bites from this video that might could
• 49:08
  be used against me at some point.
• 49:09
  I'm not nervous about that. If it makes me go viral on
• 49:12
  accident, Oh well. They'll have to talk to me in
• 49:16
  person or give me a phone call. E-mail me.
• 49:20
  Sure. I'm happy to be as responsive as
• 49:23
  I can and get back to everybody that has questions or think I
• 49:26
  may have said something that they didn't like or they
• 49:28
  disagree with. Then let's have a conversation.
• 49:32
  100% literally I, I can't, I'm not running for political
• 49:36
  office, but not yet, no. But I will say I've gotten some
• 49:42
  comments from some trolls where I'm like, I'm like, oh, that was
• 49:46
  harsh. And then some get like little
• 49:49
  ones where you're like, oh, that was harsh enough to make me
• 49:53
  question my reality. No.
• 49:55
  And then something now I've realized that you got to know
• 49:57
  who you are. You got to understand.
• 50:00
  And you also have to be open to dialogue and be like, hey, send
• 50:04
  me a message. Come.
• 50:06
  I've even said, why don't you come on the podcast?
• 50:08
  And then it's like crickets. I'm like, OK, well, you just
• 50:13
  want to like, burn me in the comments, but you don't want to
• 50:15
  talk about it. So OK.
• 50:17
  It's it's easy for everybody to have an opinion through the
• 50:21
  phone. It's super easy to send, But you
• 50:22
  know, I got to take it like my guy friend group.
• 50:26
  We're not afraid to roast each other.
• 50:27
  And if you know, I just kind of take it like it's one of my
• 50:30
  friends roasting me. Some of them are pretty funny.
• 50:32
  I'll I'll admit. I've, you know, when you see
• 50:34
  some of the trolls that are out there, I'll give them their
• 50:37
  credit. They're they've got some good
• 50:38
  zingers and but still stand on your beliefs.
• 50:41
  Take it for what it is and know that most people that are
• 50:44
  commenting or don't have a direct impact on your life.
• 50:48
  Yeah. And they're coming.
• 50:49
  Any comment is coming through the lens of how they're, what
• 50:54
  they're experiencing or what they've experienced.
• 50:57
  And it's it is really all a lot of it is, if you look at the
• 51:01
  psychology of it is projection. Yeah.
• 51:04
  Like, sorry, I've had some psychologists on the show, like
• 51:09
  you can quote me on that. Quote me on that and come debate
• 51:11
  me if you don't believe me. It's a lot of projection.
• 51:14
  And even when I've been rude to somebody, I don't troll people.
• 51:17
  But if I snap at someone, I'm like, that's because of me.
• 51:24
  That's my energy I'm bringing. Well, OK, so we've talked about
• 51:31
  you being AGM. We've talked about your Senate
• 51:34
  run. So cool.
• 51:35
  That will never not be cool to me that you're doing that.
• 51:38
  Well, thank you. Regardless of what happens, I
• 51:39
  think it's just an incredible adventure that you're going on.
• 51:43
  You're a twin. I do have to call you out for
• 51:46
  being cool, for practicing even, however many times on the
• 51:51
  practice squad with Sophie Cunningham, because badass.
• 51:55
  Yeah, it was. That was quite the experience.
• 51:59
  They're all so cool. Oh my gosh, like it was so much
• 52:02
  fun and they they are so good. They were so competitive.
• 52:07
  I'm so sad the squad's not together like that anymore.
• 52:09
  Obviously with, you know, the trades and you know, Diana
• 52:13
  retiring, but they cross the board and even like dude,
• 52:17
  Freddie Grinder is probably one of the coolest people I've ever
• 52:19
  met just for first, first moment.
• 52:22
  She walks and comes and shakes every guy, every dude that's
• 52:24
  there doing the practice squad side of it because they can't
• 52:27
  legally have women on the practice squad because it's a
• 52:30
  non compete clause to deal. So that's why I met.
• 52:33
  So that's why they have men do it for the scout teams legally
• 52:36
  wise. And then just to have, there's a
• 52:38
  lot of good basketball guys that come in there like former, it'll
• 52:41
  be like guys that play D2 or D1 and the girls are tough dude.
• 52:44
  They'll play competitive. And, you know, I didn't play at
• 52:48
  that high of skill level for basketball, but it was such an
• 52:50
  experience and getting to see the insurance and outs of how
• 52:53
  the coaches operate, how the full organization moves.
• 52:57
  I think Matt Ishiba's done a good job with what he when he
• 53:00
  purchased his team. Now, obviously the Suns need to
• 53:02
  win some more games and the Mercury obviously got to, I
• 53:06
  think they got to the finals last year and, and just there's
• 53:10
  the it's Arizona's doing a lot of cool things, man.
• 53:12
  I love that we're like one of the biggest movers and shakers
• 53:17
  in the country right now. I literally, OK, there's reason.
• 53:20
  I, I just love when I was looking at your Instagram and
• 53:23
  stuff and like there was, I loved the story where you told
• 53:27
  like, you know, they talk trash and competitive and I love that,
• 53:31
  that that was there a moment when Sophie Cunningham just like
• 53:35
  let you take a three or something.
• 53:37
  Yeah, so I see she she is she definitely is one of the better
• 53:43
  trash talkers on the teeth. And she definitely just like,
• 53:47
  let me shoot at one point just to prove a point and and she's
• 53:54
  and I'm like, it's just that I was a little rusty at the time
• 53:56
  too. I maybe would have knocked you
• 53:58
  down in a different day, but not that day.
• 53:59
  Unfortunately, it wasn't, you know, my it wasn't my time to
• 54:03
  shine the. Moment I knew that I was rooting
• 54:07
  for her was when I saw her and I I played sports, but like I just
• 54:12
  love the teammate loyalty that she had.
• 54:16
  And I'm sure you know what I'm talking about when she was at
• 54:18
  Caitlin Clark got like totally messed with right.
• 54:22
  And then she just, I think on Indiana.
• 54:24
  Right. Yeah, for the fever, yeah.
• 54:26
  If you don't agree with this then come debate me.
• 54:28
  But she, she, she'd let the girl know you're not going to push my
• 54:33
  teammate around. And I know she got in trouble
• 54:36
  for her, but sorry, I thought it was good.
• 54:39
  Yeah, she's, she's touched, she's a she's an amazing person
• 54:43
  and a really, really tough cookie, to say the least.
• 54:46
  Yeah, she's she is. She's there for you.
• 54:50
  That's I'll give you that tell. Us I love, I love, I just love
• 54:53
  seeing strong women. And then I love I got to give
• 54:56
  you kudos for just amplifying like women's voices by telling
• 55:00
  that story. And like I, I and then also just
• 55:04
  as AI have a daughter as as a woman, I appreciate men who like
• 55:11
  just talk about that. It's really cool that you you
• 55:15
  took the time to talk about how badass they are.
• 55:18
  And I, all the women appreciate, appreciate that.
• 55:21
  Yeah, I've been, I've been a who for my whole life, you know,
• 55:24
  I've only, you know, I only played at a small junior college
• 55:26
  out here in Arizona for a couple years.
• 55:28
  But is but it's I've always been a fan of the game and they
• 55:32
  played at the highest level. They know what they're doing.
• 55:35
  They're so their IQ is really there.
• 55:37
  And how can you not appreciate just good ball?
• 55:40
  Yeah, like what's appreciate it like when you see somebody,
• 55:43
  whether they're like a basketball player, a master
• 55:46
  Craftsman, really dedicated and like passionate about whatever
• 55:51
  it is, it's like wow, like that's that's all in.
• 55:55
  Yeah, it's, it's exactly what it what you said it's like just
• 55:58
  seeing it is very awe inspiring. It is it's like, and then it
• 56:02
  makes you go, what do I love and could I do that all in with
• 56:06
  something? And then they're like, yes, you
• 56:08
  can. That's yes, go do it.
• 56:11
  Go do it right. I mean, so that and that might
• 56:16
  be a good place. I think cuz you got me all
• 56:18
  inspired here to put a little bit of a pause because I really
• 56:24
  would love to if you'd be open to it.
• 56:26
  And again, you don't have to decide right now, but throughout
• 56:29
  your your run here down the line, anytime you'd like to come
• 56:33
  back and talk about anything, we would love to have you back.
• 56:38
  Yeah, I'd be happy to give an update and kind of just talk
• 56:40
  about what the experience has been like.
• 56:42
  I I'm, I'm an open book. I'm not shy of talking to people
• 56:47
  about anything and kind of everything, you know, a small
• 56:50
  bit of Irish and me. So gift to gab is, is a thing
• 56:54
  for sure. But again, try to make sure as
• 56:57
  I'm running just being a good listener as well.
• 56:59
  But I I love to talk to people and just conversate.
• 57:02
  I think you learn so much through open dialogue and
• 57:04
  conversation and just get to actually hear stories from other
• 57:07
  people. It it change, it fundamentally
• 57:10
  changes your life view when you just keep hearing people's
• 57:14
  stories and hearing how resilient people can be.
• 57:19
  As we close, please everybody look in the show notes again.
• 57:24
  I think Logan was very open. If you have, especially if
• 57:26
  you're an Arizona citizen and you want a dialogue about
• 57:29
  anything you've heard or anything, he is contactable
• 57:33
  below. And then Logan, do you have any
• 57:36
  advice for anyone through all your really cool ventures that
• 57:41
  might be struggling with like self doubt or just like belief?
• 57:47
  Do you have any advice of like how you're carrying yourself
• 57:50
  through all this with with your own self self belief?
• 57:55
  Yeah, I say just no matter the UPS or downs or trials that
• 57:58
  you're going through at any time is just know what your vision
• 58:01
  is, know what you want to aspire to be and be accountable to how
• 58:06
  much work it takes to get there. And then, you know, try to be as
• 58:11
  disciplined as possible to make sure you're doing all the
• 58:13
  correct things. Still make sure you're saving
• 58:15
  time for rest. And it's the last thing is just
• 58:20
  make sure that you've got a good support group around you as
• 58:23
  well, like your friends and family make will be your
• 58:27
  biggest, your biggest champions for you.
• 58:29
  They want they definitely want the best.
• 58:32
  My coaches, my teammates, my friends, everybody I've met is
• 58:35
  definitely how you get through those hard times and to lean on
• 58:40
  them and don't be afraid to ask for help in any shape or form.
• 58:44
  It's hard, it's annoying, it's it's usually against our biggest
• 58:52
  intuition because we're all very much built up by the bootstraps
• 58:54
  for most people I know. So doing that and just know that
• 58:59
  you're going to be great is that's you keep that positive.
• 59:02
  Just being a positive person will change outlook so much.
• 59:05
  I know things can seem bad and be cautious.
• 59:08
  Think about some of the outcomes, but think about the
• 59:10
  outcomes of not doing anything. So good, so good.
• 59:17
  Logan, this has been such a pleasure.
• 59:19
  I really enjoyed like connecting with you.
• 59:22
  I I knew you'd be awesome because you're Adam's friend and
• 59:25
  and you're connected to to my producer Jack and I just I
• 59:29
  really appreciate you. I know you've got a lot going
• 59:31
  on. Taking this hour to talk to me
• 59:34
  and my, my listeners really appreciate it and can't wait to
• 59:39
  check in with you and like just cheer you on from California.
• 59:44
  Yeah, I appreciate. Thank you so much for having me,
• 59:46
  Bree. It's an honor.
• 59:47
  I'm glad Adam was able to connect us.
• 59:49
  You're an amazing person. And hopefully if I ever out in
• 59:52
  California, ever out here, like let's connect.
• 59:55
  Please, it is. It's going to probably happen
• 59:58
  just. Say absolutely.
• 1:00:00
  And I told Adam, I'm like, and you're just going to walk with
• 1:00:03
  me everywhere even though no one cares.
• 1:00:05
  I just will feel safe with you everywhere.
• 1:00:07
  Exactly. They're like breed.
• 1:00:09
  Nobody knows who you are. I'm like I know, but I feel
• 1:00:11
  safe. Big protector?
• 1:00:14
  Yes, he is. Yes.
• 1:00:17
  Well, with that guys, thank you so much, Logan.
• 1:00:20
  And check out all of Logan's information below and we are
• 1:00:24
  going to sign off with Episode 87.
• 1:00:27
  Take care, everybody.