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Unlocking Human Potential Through Clean Water Access w/ Dr. Greg Allgood · Something Extra

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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Yeah.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: So,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: you know, there's the impact of the global water crisis is many it
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: impacts people in many ways.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And one of them is the fact there's still a thousand children that die
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: every day from having unsafe water.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Another big impact is the fact that women and girls, mostly
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: women and girls, have to haul water, have to walk long distances.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And in fact, the estimate is that just in Sub Saharan Africa, where seventy
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: percent of the people are that don't have basic clean water access,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Women and girls in sub Saharan Africa have to walk two hundred
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: million hours every day hauling water.
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  Lisa Nichols: Our guest today is doctor Greg Allgood.
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  Lisa Nichols: Greg is the vice president of water and health at World Vision, the largest
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  Lisa Nichols: Christian relief and development organization on the planet.
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  Lisa Nichols: A renowned toxicologist, he has spent decades leading massive innovative
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  Lisa Nichols: global initiatives that have transformed millions of lives through access
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  Lisa Nichols: to safe drinking water, sanitation, and hygiene.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, Greg, Allgood .
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  Lisa Nichols: Welcome to the something extra podcast.
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  Lisa Nichols: I have been so looking forward to this conversation with you,
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  Lisa Nichols: and I cannot wait to dig in and let our listeners know all the
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  Lisa Nichols: amazing things that you guys are doing.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Well, Oh, thank you, Lisa.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Thank you for the opportunity.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
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  Lisa Nichols: Thank you for making the time.
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  Lisa Nichols: And I have to give a special shout out to our good friend, Jim
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  Lisa Nichols: Bechtold.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Yeah.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Jim's Jim's a great encourager.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: So he's such an encourager.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And, yeah, I appreciate that he connected us.
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  Lisa Nichols: I do.
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  Lisa Nichols: I am too.
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  Lisa Nichols: I just think all people run through Jim Bechtold.
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  Lisa Nichols: Do you know what is that seven degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon?
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: We should start at two degrees of separation from Jim Bechtold.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: But you and Jim know one another because you spent years together
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  Lisa Nichols: at P and G.
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  Lisa Nichols: I think you were there for twenty seven years.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Correct.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Yes.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: And
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: now Jim's involved with us, at World Vision as well.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
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  Lisa Nichols: And so now you're the VP of water and health for World Vision, and
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  Lisa Nichols: we're gonna get all into that.
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  Lisa Nichols: But, you know, I just I have to ask you.
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  Lisa Nichols: You've spent decades,
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  Lisa Nichols: doctor Allgood, bringing clean water to millions of people.
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  Lisa Nichols: When someone asks you what you do today, what's the answer that you hope
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  Lisa Nichols: they will remember?
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: That's a great question.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Well, yeah, my my purpose in life really has has
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: evolved a lot around helping provide clean water to people because I've
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: been blessed to be able to go and see the need, see what happens
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: when women and girls are hauling water long distances or or people are sick,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: been places where there's cholera outbreaks and and helping to address that, helping
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: save lives and transform lives with clean water is is my is
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: my purpose in my professional life.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, and you did you founded the children's I think it was called the
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  Lisa Nichols: children's safe water, I think.
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  Lisa Nichols: P and G Children's Safe Drinking Water Program.
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  Lisa Nichols: If drinking water program.
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  Lisa Nichols: And you founded that.
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  Lisa Nichols: You were the founder of that when you were at P and G.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: So
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Yeah.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: It was it was a sort of a radical idea.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: It it, it focused on providing a little water purification
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: packet that makes dirty water not only clear, but purified.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: It kills the bacteria, the virus, the parasite, and takes out the parasites.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And we tried to make it a for profit business, but it failed.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: We were we were not meeting P and G's expectations for a for profit
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: product.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: In fact, we were losing a lot of money, and I had this rather
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: radical idea to create a not for profit business.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And, I like to say about every hundred and eighty five years, P and
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: G did something radically different, and this I happened to be there at the
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: right time.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: But, yeah, there was, some battles in in, in,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: creating a not for profit business, probably rightfully so.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: P and T had failed commercially, with some of the brightest marketers
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: that we have and business leaders.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And now I, as a scientist, with no real strong business background said, let
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: me run it as a not for profit business.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so, yes, some senior leaders tried to decided to fire me,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: and it it was a bit of a battle within P and G.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: But luckily, our leadership, including our our former CEO,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: AG Lafley, and also had great support from from past CEO
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: John Pepper saw the potential of this to really build P and G reputation
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: and and to save lives.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so the work continues to today.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: They had me back in Cincinnati of P and G's headquarters last year to
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: celebrate twenty one years and twenty five billion liters
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: of clean water that that program has provided.
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  Lisa Nichols: Say that again.
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  Lisa Nichols: Twenty
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: five billion.
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  Lisa Nichols: Billion.
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  Lisa Nichols: With a b.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: It's just that is so amazing.
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  Lisa Nichols: That is so amazing.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well and I just I love I mean, you know what I think?
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  Lisa Nichols: I when I when I hear that story, Dr.
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  Lisa Nichols: Allgood, I just think, you know what?
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  Lisa Nichols: P and G had a heart.
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  Lisa Nichols: I know they had a heart.
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  Lisa Nichols: You know, you guys had the whole love campaign for a while, and,
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  Lisa Nichols: I think people want to support and get behind companies
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  Lisa Nichols: that have heart.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: And so that's what it does for me.
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  Lisa Nichols: I'm like, wow.
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  Lisa Nichols: You know, they truly are using the business for a greater good.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: It's not just about profits.
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  Lisa Nichols: It's about saving lives.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And the fact that it's sustained now through five different CEOs, also
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: shows P and G's long dedication to to this
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: work and and to really transforming lives and helps to prove be a proof
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: point for their you know, a lot of P and G products improve lives
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: every day in everyday ways, whether it's, you know, Head and Shoulders
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: or Vicks,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: or Tide detergent, Pampers.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: You know, everyday ways improve health and hygiene, but, this is really the centerpiece
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: of of showing that it can actually, you know, help transform lives with
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: clean water.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right.
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  Lisa Nichols: I think I read a story where you actually
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  Lisa Nichols: drank some water where there was a dead dog
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  Lisa Nichols: upstream.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right?
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  Lisa Nichols: And you used to pure pack it.
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  Lisa Nichols: Tell that story.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Oh, yeah.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: It was, you know, one of the things when when I was
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: showing the communities the the miracle of turning water
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: dirty and clean and purified is they always had to drink the water myself
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: to prove that, you know, that it that it's, is something that they would
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: be able to drink.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And one of the places we collected water, there was literally a dead dog
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: in the water.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And the acceptance among people once I drank the water was was even higher
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: than normal, which is usually good, but it was great.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And I thought this this should be our next best business approach.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Always bring along a dead dog and have them in the water.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Dog.
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  Lisa Nichols: Oh my goodness.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: That was proof in the pudding for sure.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: That was proof.
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  Lisa Nichols: You know?
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  Lisa Nichols: Well, I'm excited about this.
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  Lisa Nichols: You've got an upcoming book, and we were just talking before.
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  Lisa Nichols: Bob McDonnell and John Pepper both endorsed the book for you, but it's called
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  Lisa Nichols: Thirsty for a Miracle.
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  Lisa Nichols: What is the miracle that you're actually thirsty for, Greg?
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Well, yeah, I'll show you the book.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: It's, it's coming out September twenty second.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Yeah, it's published by Tyndall,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: House Publishing, which is a, you know, a Christian, book publishing company.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And the thirsty for miracle
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: relates both to,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: the fact that people need clean water, and part of it is this miracle
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: of of the PNG packets turning dirty water to clean water,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: but also my own spiritual journey of becoming
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: a person who was always of faith.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: But, for many years, I was a person that, sort of arrogantly thought,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: you know, God was supporting my work.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And and sort of almost like I had when I need to pray and
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: ask for help, I had sort of got on speed dial that he would
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: he would favor my work.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And over the years learning that I was really just God's water boy
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: doing his mission of helping, provide clean water
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: to people in desperate need.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: So that that miracle is also my my spiritual journey and Your
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  Lisa Nichols: spiritual journey.
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  Lisa Nichols: Along the way.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: And, I mean, you you've got oh my goodness.
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  Lisa Nichols: You know, you've got a PhD in toxicology.
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  Lisa Nichols: You got master's in public health.
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  Lisa Nichols: You started with a bachelor's in biology.
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  Lisa Nichols: I mean, Greg, was there any kind
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  Lisa Nichols: of, how do I wanna put this, ego there
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  Lisa Nichols: about, you know, look at how smart I am and what I can do.
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  Lisa Nichols: Did you did you ever have that kind of I I think about,
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  Lisa Nichols: I bet you know him, Mark Whitaker, who runs t factor for Consolidated.
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  Lisa Nichols: He was very, very smart.
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  Lisa Nichols: But he told me he said, oh, yeah.
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  Lisa Nichols: I was very smart.
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  Lisa Nichols: I was an executive when I was, like, twenty nine years old.
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  Lisa Nichols: And, you know, I mean, an ego kind of gets in the way
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  Lisa Nichols: a little bit sometime.
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  Lisa Nichols: Do you have a sense
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: of that?
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And and, I've always been very ambitious.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: I mean, going back to, you know, getting becoming an Eagle Scout at thirteen
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: and, you know, excelling in academics and and definitely, ego
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: gets in the way.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And that was part of my journey in learning that,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: when God could do it with or without me.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And
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  Lisa Nichols: and Yes.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And, learning that I can be, know when I can contribute
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: and knowing when others, can contribute and that we're all have the same mission.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: If you're showing yourself with people who have the same mission, you can achieve
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: extraordinary things.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: So, that's definitely been part of of what I've learned over the years,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: and it's a really important lesson.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: I'm I'm so grateful that that God had me has given me a purpose
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: that allows to channel that ambition into into saving lives,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: instead of, you know, some other effort.
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  Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
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  Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
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  Lisa Nichols: I would love and you kind of touched on it, doctor Algoo, but I
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  Lisa Nichols: know when you and I had talked before, you told me this story about
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  Lisa Nichols: this documentary.
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  Lisa Nichols: And I think it's called The Long Walk for Water Yes.
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  Lisa Nichols: That you were involved in putting together.
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  Lisa Nichols: And I was so moved.
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  Lisa Nichols: In fact, I was so moved.
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  Lisa Nichols: I immediately came back and told Jenny Hill, my EA.
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  Lisa Nichols: I'm like, let me tell you what he told me.
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  Lisa Nichols: Tell tell our listeners about what they may not understand
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  Lisa Nichols: about what girls and women have to go through to get clean water.
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  Lisa Nichols: Can you tell that story?
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  Lisa Nichols: And you actually walked the walk yourself because you wanted to know what it
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  Lisa Nichols: was like.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Yeah.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: So,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: you know, there's the impact of the global water crisis is many it impacts
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: people in many ways, and one of them is the fact there's still a
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: thousand children that die every day from having unsafe water.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Another big impact is the fact that women and girls, mostly
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: women and girls, have to haul water, have to walk long distances.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And in fact, the estimate is that just in Sub Saharan Africa, where seventy
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: percent of the people are that don't have clean water access, basic clean water
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: access,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Women and girls in sub Saharan Africa have to walk two hundred
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: million hours every day hauling water.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so I I wanted to I want people, Americans in particular, to
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: understand the long walk for water that women and girls have to endure.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so we, World Vision was was doing work in providing
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: clean water access in a number of countries.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And I said, let's, before we provide clean water access, but
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: knowing that these communities will get clean water access, let's really
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: let's really measure and and and record the the long walk for water.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And our idea was to make it so that people can relate, was to
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: put smartwatches, to invite women in these countries to
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: wear smartwatches as they did the long walk for water because everyone's, you know,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: supposed to walk, you know, ten thousand steps and, you know, counting their calories,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: counting their miles.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so it was a way to make Americans understand this long walk for
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: water.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: So we did it in four countries.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And when we got the data back, I asked the team to disaggregate the
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: data.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: I wanted to see what community was walking the furthest for water,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: and I wanted to go back there with a a film crew,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: and we did that.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And, of course, because this is a primarily a woman's issue, I picked a
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: colleague, Lindsay Deems Ratchford, who's a World Vision employee,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: who has a passion for clean water to go along so we could experience
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: through through Lindsay's eyes this journey.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And two lovely beautiful women that chose to do the walk
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: again because the time we we did the walk, they had clean
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: water access.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: they shared with us that the physicality of the journey is incredible,
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: and we got to experience that.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: But even even more than this the the struggles in
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: carrying the water is the dangers along the way.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: One of the women, Nomogene, had almost been killed by an elephant in the
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: area, and the stress of and and worry about their children.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: The children they have too many times is the the younger ones have to
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: leave the home while they're walking for water.
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  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: But, Lisa, they were they were each carrying forty four pounds of water.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: They they put a strap around the the container of water and put
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: it around their head and balance the water on their back, and then then
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: pulled and dragged another forty four pounds each, eighty eight pounds
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: of water.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: We walked through a dry river bed, through a forest where these wild
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: animals were.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: We saw cobra, elephants, then up a mountain, then down
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: the other side of the mountain where they had to dig down into the
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: sand to collect contaminated water and then haul the eighty
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: eight pounds of water back.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so, yeah, I I wrote and directed the the long walk for water
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: documentary that shares the story of these two amazing women and and through, Lindsay
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Dean Rashford's eyes about this long walk for water.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And the goal is to inspire action, through all World Vision's work.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: So we we want Yes.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: We want this to never have to happen again for for women and girls.
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  Lisa Nichols: Absolutely.
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  Lisa Nichols: Well and you and I talked about it because I was telling you about
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  Lisa Nichols: our work with OI, you know, Opportunity International that helps women
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  Lisa Nichols: get up on their feet with a business idea.
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  Lisa Nichols: But something that you said, Dr.
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  Lisa Nichols: Allgood, that I had not really thought about before, you're like, these women
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  Lisa Nichols: don't have time to do anything but haul water.
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  Lisa Nichols: When you are working when you are you're walking two hundred
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  Lisa Nichols: out million hours a day, you know, collectively,
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  Lisa Nichols: there there's not time for that, or you're so exhausted.
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  Lisa Nichols: How could you even have the energy to start a business or anything?
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  Lisa Nichols: And I I had really not thought about it in that light.
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  Lisa Nichols: So you're really that's your purpose is just to get water.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Yeah.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: So even though World Vision is the the world's leading nongovernmental provider
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: of clean water, we don't stop with water.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: In fact, we actually don't even start with water.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: We start with with people, helping people understand that they're made in the
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: image of a loving God and they're meant to be successful.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: God doesn't want them to live in extreme poverty, and so you deal with
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: the hopelessness and apathy that's in many communities to one of resourcefulness
• 15:51
  Dr. Greg Allgood: and and thriving.
• 15:52
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Get that mindset change.
• 15:54
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Then when you bring clean water access, you unleash,
• 15:58
  Dr. Greg Allgood: as you said, that that time and energy, and, wow, do
• 16:02
  Dr. Greg Allgood: you see things change once you once you provide clean water access in the
• 16:05
  Dr. Greg Allgood: community.
• 16:06
  Dr. Greg Allgood: But we don't stop there.
• 16:07
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Then we bring in our economic opportunity work Mhmm.
• 16:11
  Dr. Greg Allgood: To organize people into savings groups, to teach them business skills,
• 16:15
  Dr. Greg Allgood: and, when needed to provide microfinance, for example, through World
• 16:19
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Vision's leading microfinance group Vision Fund.
• 16:22
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And when you put those together, mindset change, then providing clean water to unleash
• 16:26
  Dr. Greg Allgood: time and energy, and then economic development, you really see communities thrive.
• 16:30
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And particularly particularly the women and family relationships improve.
• 16:35
  Dr. Greg Allgood: The relationship between husbands and wives, really change, when
• 16:39
  Dr. Greg Allgood: you when people are no longer in extreme poverty, and we focus on making
• 16:43
  Dr. Greg Allgood: sure that happens.
• 16:44
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 16:45
  Lisa Nichols: I just I love it.
• 16:46
  Lisa Nichols: Tell this story real quick, because I told you that
• 16:50
  Lisa Nichols: we have supported children through World Vision for a long time, and I'll never
• 16:54
  Lisa Nichols: forget.
• 16:54
  Lisa Nichols: I think it was Bob Pierce, right, that founded World Vision.
• 16:58
  Lisa Nichols: Tell our listeners kind of the genesis of that,
• 17:03
  Lisa Nichols: and what was the what was it that really
• 17:07
  Lisa Nichols: spurred him on the prayer?
• 17:09
  Dr. Greg Allgood: So, Bob Pierce is the founder of of World Vision, also Samaritan's Purse.
• 17:14
  Dr. Greg Allgood: He was an evangelist, worked with alongside Billy Graham in in
• 17:18
  Dr. Greg Allgood: China, then Korea.
• 17:20
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Evangelists were kicked out of China.
• 17:21
  Dr. Greg Allgood: They went to Korea and, at a, at a revival
• 17:25
  Dr. Greg Allgood: in Korea.
• 17:27
  Dr. Greg Allgood: One of the attendees, a young girl, Jade White,
• 17:32
  Dr. Greg Allgood: accepted Christ, and her family, shunned her.
• 17:35
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And, she went to an orphanage, and Bob Pierce happened to be visiting
• 17:39
  Dr. Greg Allgood: the orphanage.
• 17:40
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And a a nun there said, what are you gonna do about this girl
• 17:43
  Dr. Greg Allgood: who knows?
• 17:45
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so that's how, World Vision started child sponsorship.
• 17:49
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And and then we work to grow that.
• 17:50
  Dr. Greg Allgood: We're the leading child sponsorship organization now.
• 17:53
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And that's really critical to our whole development model because
• 17:57
  Dr. Greg Allgood: when people,
• 18:00
  Dr. Greg Allgood: sponsor a child, that funds go, not just to that child,
• 18:04
  Dr. Greg Allgood: but to that entire community.
• 18:05
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And we work in communities about the size of a a county, typically about
• 18:09
  Dr. Greg Allgood: fifty thousand people.
• 18:10
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Mhmm.
• 18:10
  Dr. Greg Allgood: That child sponsorship funds allow us to have a presence with local staff
• 18:14
  Dr. Greg Allgood: in those communities for the long term, ten to twelve,
• 18:19
  Dr. Greg Allgood: fifteen years in some cases.
• 18:21
  Dr. Greg Allgood: We work alongside the community so they can lift themselves out of extreme poverty.
• 18:25
  Dr. Greg Allgood: So we talked about the mindset change and the wars and economic development.
• 18:29
  Dr. Greg Allgood: So child sponsorship is critical to that model.
• 18:31
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And on top of child sponsorship, we raise funds for for water economic
• 18:35
  Dr. Greg Allgood: development.
• 18:36
  Dr. Greg Allgood: We're now in our fourth five year business plan for water.
• 18:40
  Dr. Greg Allgood: We've committed between twenty twenty two and twenty thirty raise,
• 18:46
  Dr. Greg Allgood: to provide clean water access to thirty million additional people.
• 18:51
  Dr. Greg Allgood: So it's just a a a huge
• 18:52
  Lisa Nichols: global effort.
• 18:54
  Lisa Nichols: And you've already provided to how many?
• 18:56
  Dr. Greg Allgood: So between twenty sixteen and twenty, and now between twenty
• 19:00
  Dr. Greg Allgood: sixteen and now, we've reached thirty five million people with clean water.
• 19:05
  Dr. Greg Allgood: To put that in perspective, that's like the population of Texas, except we're not
• 19:08
  Dr. Greg Allgood: operating in a place with good roads and infrastructure working in the toughest to
• 19:12
  Dr. Greg Allgood: reach places on the planet, places like, Doctor Congo and,
• 19:18
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Ethiopia,
• 19:20
  Dr. Greg Allgood: and Zambia.
• 19:21
  Dr. Greg Allgood: So, you know, really tough to reach places, and thirty five million people's
• 19:25
  Dr. Greg Allgood: lives have been changed because of the wonderful people who who support World Vision
• 19:29
  Dr. Greg Allgood: and the World Vision staff who do the work.
• 19:31
  Lisa Nichols: Is that it's just so amazing.
• 19:33
  Lisa Nichols: So amazing.
• 19:35
  Lisa Nichols: Well, you started as a scientist.
• 19:37
  Lisa Nichols: Did you ever did you ever think back then, doctor
• 19:41
  Lisa Nichols: Allgood, that that would turn into your ministry and your purpose as you've said?
• 19:45
  Lisa Nichols: Did you ever think that?
• 19:47
  Dr. Greg Allgood: No.
• 19:48
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I I definitely did not.
• 19:50
  Dr. Greg Allgood: You know, my, two two people that really inspired me to try to think
• 19:54
  Dr. Greg Allgood: about doing something that would have a big impact, were Jane Goodall and and,
• 19:58
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Jacques Cousteau.
• 19:59
  Dr. Greg Allgood: They were my heroes and how they were both scientists, but also,
• 20:05
  Dr. Greg Allgood: you know, wanted to change the world for the better.
• 20:07
  Dr. Greg Allgood: So I I had I had that inspiration, but I I never dreamed I
• 20:10
  Dr. Greg Allgood: would be able to to, be blessed to be part of efforts that have
• 20:14
  Dr. Greg Allgood: have reached millions of billions of people.
• 20:15
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I was blessed to be able to work with Jane Goodall and Jane Goodall
• 20:18
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Institute, when I was at P and G.
• 20:20
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Oh, okay.
• 20:21
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And, also, I hike Kilimanjaro on a celebrity hike with Alexandra Cousteau.
• 20:24
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Jacques Cousteau had passed, but I've I got pretty darn close to my either
• 20:28
  Dr. Greg Allgood: directly working with my heroes or their descendants of my heroes.
• 20:31
  Lisa Nichols: That is so remarkable.
• 20:32
  Lisa Nichols: That is awesome.
• 20:33
  Lisa Nichols: Well, I tell you what, I've got pages and pages of questions
• 20:37
  Lisa Nichols: for you.
• 20:38
  Lisa Nichols: But we need to take a really quick break, and we'll be right back
• 20:41
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• 21:15
  Lisa Nichols: So welcome back, everyone, to the Something Extra podcast with Dr.
• 21:19
  Lisa Nichols: Greg Allgood.
• 21:21
  Lisa Nichols: Greg, you know, you've said that purpose often reveals itself one step
• 21:25
  Lisa Nichols: at a time one step at a time.
• 21:28
  Lisa Nichols: What advice would you give to someone who is still searching
• 21:32
  Lisa Nichols: for their purpose?
• 21:34
  Dr. Greg Allgood: That's a great question.
• 21:35
  Dr. Greg Allgood: You know, I think finding your purpose, it'll be where where you
• 21:39
  Dr. Greg Allgood: have passion, where you you see that it excites you.
• 21:42
  Dr. Greg Allgood: You wanna get out of bed every morning and and and, get involved in
• 21:46
  Dr. Greg Allgood: that purpose.
• 21:48
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Pray, ask for discernment from God to to, help you know when that
• 21:52
  Dr. Greg Allgood: true purpose is.
• 21:54
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so and be patient because sometimes it does take a a while for
• 21:58
  Dr. Greg Allgood: you really to to understand that.
• 22:00
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And passion is not enough.
• 22:01
  Dr. Greg Allgood: You need to have the skill set along with it.
• 22:03
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Yeah.
• 22:03
  Dr. Greg Allgood: So if you think this is your passion, then, you know, build your skills
• 22:06
  Dr. Greg Allgood: in that area where so you can really have a meaningful impact.
• 22:09
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 22:10
  Lisa Nichols: You know, that is sometimes where I see, and I'm sure
• 22:14
  Lisa Nichols: that you could speak to this.
• 22:16
  Lisa Nichols: And I would love for you to speak to, like, what what were you
• 22:19
  Lisa Nichols: doing back then even that you feel like has prepared you for what you're
• 22:23
  Lisa Nichols: doing now?
• 22:24
  Lisa Nichols: And sometimes, I mean, doctor Allgood, there is a season of
• 22:28
  Lisa Nichols: preparation.
• 22:30
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 22:30
  Lisa Nichols: And sometimes your purpose is not necessarily revealed immediately
• 22:34
  Lisa Nichols: because you're not ready.
• 22:36
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 22:37
  Lisa Nichols: There's this season of preparation.
• 22:38
  Lisa Nichols: I love what you said.
• 22:39
  Lisa Nichols: You gotta have the skill set, so work on that.
• 22:42
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 22:43
  Lisa Nichols: Have the patience to wait.
• 22:44
  Lisa Nichols: You know?
• 22:45
  Lisa Nichols: But, you know, looking back, is there what what
• 22:49
  Lisa Nichols: were some of the things you were doing that really prepared you for the
• 22:52
  Lisa Nichols: work that you're doing today?
• 22:54
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Well, you're right.
• 22:55
  Dr. Greg Allgood: It did take years for me to understand what my true purpose was.
• 22:59
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 22:59
  Dr. Greg Allgood: At P and G, we mentioned I had a lot of ambition, and I
• 23:02
  Dr. Greg Allgood: was, you know, very grateful to have a position at the world's leading consumer
• 23:06
  Dr. Greg Allgood: products company doing job I worked that it doing work I I really
• 23:10
  Dr. Greg Allgood: value, but, didn't quite fit with my purpose.
• 23:13
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I didn't understand my purpose.
• 23:15
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And,
• 23:16
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I worked on project after project that failed.
• 23:19
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so I was really becoming discouraged.
• 23:21
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I think is, you know, is this is this what God wanted me to
• 23:24
  Dr. Greg Allgood: do?
• 23:24
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Even even what I thought were big successes,
• 23:27
  Dr. Greg Allgood: like, I was, in a a debate with a critic on Oprah,
• 23:31
  Dr. Greg Allgood: when it was the top television,
• 23:34
  Dr. Greg Allgood: show in the world.
• 23:35
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And I was very successful in that debate and thought, wow.
• 23:38
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I'm I'm this is gonna lead to more successes in my career.
• 23:42
  Dr. Greg Allgood: That project, though, crashed financially because it wasn't meeting P and
• 23:46
  Dr. Greg Allgood: G's expectations for sales.
• 23:47
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so it was a it was a financial failure.
• 23:51
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And,
• 23:52
  Dr. Greg Allgood: project after project that I worked on were like that.
• 23:55
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And at the time, I was thinking, you know, wow.
• 23:57
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I maybe I should leave P and G.
• 23:59
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Maybe I'm just not cut out for this.
• 24:01
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Mhmm.
• 24:01
  Dr. Greg Allgood: But what I did was I learned through those failures.
• 24:04
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And my success in in convincing leaders to,
• 24:08
  Dr. Greg Allgood: create a not for profit business with the P and G, I can directly
• 24:12
  Dr. Greg Allgood: link back to understanding, what happens in a corporation when things
• 24:16
  Dr. Greg Allgood: fail.
• 24:16
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And I was able to get ahead of it with the the not for
• 24:19
  Dr. Greg Allgood: profit business recommendation.
• 24:23
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And, you know, if if you're patient and you you learn those skills,
• 24:27
  Dr. Greg Allgood: and then you've asked for for god guidance from god,
• 24:32
  Dr. Greg Allgood: you can find your purpose.
• 24:33
  Dr. Greg Allgood: For me, it was when,
• 24:36
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I was almost fired from P and G for for recommending this, not for
• 24:41
  Dr. Greg Allgood: profit business.
• 24:42
  Dr. Greg Allgood: You know, who was I?
• 24:43
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Who was I to lead this?
• 24:44
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Could damage P and G's reputation to try to continue with a a product
• 24:48
  Dr. Greg Allgood: that had failed commercially.
• 24:50
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I was in Geneva meeting with some of our P and G team, who
• 24:53
  Dr. Greg Allgood: had asked me.
• 24:54
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And I I was walking I was running around Lake Geneva, to get rid
• 24:57
  Dr. Greg Allgood: of some of the stress of the fact that people are trying to have
• 25:00
  Dr. Greg Allgood: me fired.
• 25:01
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And, usually, after running for a while, like, you know, I
• 25:07
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I I start relaxing a little bit.
• 25:08
  Dr. Greg Allgood: You know, my my my stress is really
• 25:10
  Lisa Nichols: Endorphins
• 25:12
  Lisa Nichols: kick in and But
• 25:13
  Dr. Greg Allgood: in this run, it just get it get got worse and worse.
• 25:17
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And,
• 25:19
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I stopped
• 25:21
  Dr. Greg Allgood: and I I heard God very clearly tell me, do you doubt I can
• 25:24
  Dr. Greg Allgood: do this?
• 25:26
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And
• 25:27
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I never had an an experience like that.
• 25:29
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I dropped on my knees and wept, and, I felt an
• 25:33
  Dr. Greg Allgood: amazing confidence because of that that, God had told me he
• 25:38
  Dr. Greg Allgood: that he could do this, which changed everything within P and G
• 25:42
  Dr. Greg Allgood: because the people that were wanted to work alongside me, they were nervous as
• 25:45
  Dr. Greg Allgood: well, but they saw the confidence I had, which I attribute to the holy
• 25:49
  Dr. Greg Allgood: spirit, entering me and and it giving me this confidence.
• 25:51
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so, we had a few more battles ahead, but I I had the
• 25:55
  Dr. Greg Allgood: confidence to to, to to get the agreement from P and G, the green
• 25:59
  Dr. Greg Allgood: light to to run the for profit business.
• 26:02
  Lisa Nichols: Okay.
• 26:03
  Lisa Nichols: We could just stop the podcast right there.
• 26:05
  Lisa Nichols: That was just gold.
• 26:06
  Lisa Nichols: That was gold, and that will be something that that I
• 26:10
  Lisa Nichols: will remember.
• 26:11
  Lisa Nichols: I hope our listeners do too.
• 26:13
  Lisa Nichols: Do you doubt that I can do this?
• 26:15
  Lisa Nichols: God is sovereign.
• 26:17
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 26:17
  Lisa Nichols: And he can do anything.
• 26:18
  Lisa Nichols: And going back to what you said in the beginning, Dr.
• 26:22
  Lisa Nichols: Allgood, you go, you know, he doesn't need me to accomplish his purposes.
• 26:26
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 26:26
  Lisa Nichols: I always say that that when I really camp out on that,
• 26:32
  Lisa Nichols: that one blows me away.
• 26:34
  Lisa Nichols: He doesn't need any of us.
• 26:36
  Lisa Nichols: Here's the deal, though.
• 26:37
  Lisa Nichols: He wants us.
• 26:39
  Lisa Nichols: He wants us involved, and he knows what's gonna fill
• 26:43
  Lisa Nichols: our bucket more than we know.
• 26:45
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 26:45
  Lisa Nichols: And so getting to do that work and the work that you've been able
• 26:49
  Lisa Nichols: to do and knowing that the work that you've been able to do,
• 26:54
  Lisa Nichols: which he gave you, the brains and the scientific brain
• 26:58
  Lisa Nichols: and that and the business brain, but that you've been able to be a
• 27:02
  Lisa Nichols: part of saving so many lives.
• 27:05
  Lisa Nichols: What a fulfilling, satisfying life, and he knows that
• 27:09
  Lisa Nichols: better than we know it.
• 27:10
  Lisa Nichols: So that, that that's gold.
• 27:13
  Lisa Nichols: Do you doubt that I can do this?
• 27:15
  Lisa Nichols: That is gold.
• 27:16
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Lisa, it it it it was a, you know, it's a journey.
• 27:19
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Right?
• 27:19
  Dr. Greg Allgood: We continue to to to struggle with our own ambitions.
• 27:22
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And and, and for me, one of the things that happened at World Vision
• 27:26
  Dr. Greg Allgood: was, after I was with World Vision for a while,
• 27:30
  Dr. Greg Allgood: we started missing our targets, and things got really bad.
• 27:35
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I I had tried to get the organization to understand that we needed to
• 27:38
  Dr. Greg Allgood: change what we were doing.
• 27:39
  Dr. Greg Allgood: We were we were at risk of no longer being the leading provider of
• 27:43
  Dr. Greg Allgood: clean water.
• 27:44
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And
• 27:45
  Dr. Greg Allgood: and one of our biggest donors on a call said that they're not gonna
• 27:48
  Dr. Greg Allgood: continue to fund our work.
• 27:50
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Dave and Dana Dornsife have have invested more than a hundred fifty million dollars
• 27:54
  Dr. Greg Allgood: with us, but they saw our poor performance and and, said we're not gonna
• 27:58
  Dr. Greg Allgood: continue to fund bad performance.
• 28:00
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And, I it was a crisis for me because their initial
• 28:05
  Dr. Greg Allgood: funding of our first business plan brought me to World Vision.
• 28:07
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And even more than that, I could see that, you know, these millions of
• 28:10
  Dr. Greg Allgood: people are helping.
• 28:11
  Dr. Greg Allgood: We're not we're not gonna be able to help anymore if this spirals like
• 28:14
  Dr. Greg Allgood: it looks like it's spiraling.
• 28:16
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And,
• 28:19
  Dr. Greg Allgood: the lesson I learned from that was that I was ineffective at getting
• 28:23
  Dr. Greg Allgood: the organization at that point to understand that we were headed this way.
• 28:26
  Dr. Greg Allgood: But when when our biggest donor at the time said that they were having
• 28:30
  Dr. Greg Allgood: a problem, the organization under the leadership of Edgar Sandoval,
• 28:34
  Dr. Greg Allgood: our CEO, really really created this as a
• 28:38
  Dr. Greg Allgood: understood that this was a crisis, got the right people in place, changed some
• 28:41
  Dr. Greg Allgood: leadership, and and got us back on track.
• 28:45
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And I didn't do that.
• 28:47
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I I had nothing to do with getting us back on track.
• 28:49
  Dr. Greg Allgood: In fact, I was not successful in getting the organization understand initially.
• 28:52
  Dr. Greg Allgood: So that was an an instance where I learned, you know, in this case,
• 28:56
  Dr. Greg Allgood: god doesn't need me to do this.
• 28:57
  Dr. Greg Allgood: He needs other people to do it.
• 28:59
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 29:00
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 29:01
  Lisa Nichols: That is so good.
• 29:02
  Lisa Nichols: That's so good.
• 29:04
  Lisa Nichols: Oh, wow.
• 29:05
  Lisa Nichols: Well, let me ask you this.
• 29:06
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, this dovetails right in.
• 29:08
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, you guys you've been successful, you and the team,
• 29:13
  Lisa Nichols: of building these partnerships.
• 29:15
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 29:15
  Lisa Nichols: I mean and you just said, what, a hundred and fifty million from this
• 29:19
  Lisa Nichols: one family.
• 29:20
  Lisa Nichols: But I think and I could be wrong on my numbers, but, like, one
• 29:24
  Lisa Nichols: point six billion, at least, you're closing in on two billion.
• 29:28
  Lisa Nichols: What do you think the secret is, Dr.
• 29:31
  Lisa Nichols: Allgood, of getting people to rally around something bigger than themselves
• 29:35
  Lisa Nichols: and, might I add, for people that they may never meet?
• 29:40
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Yes.
• 29:42
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Well,
• 29:44
  Dr. Greg Allgood: generosity has has its rewards.
• 29:46
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Right?
• 29:47
  Dr. Greg Allgood: We're wired to to want to help other people, and so that's that's a
• 29:50
  Dr. Greg Allgood: big part of this.
• 29:52
  Dr. Greg Allgood: But but giving people the opportunity to invest in something that we can show
• 29:55
  Dr. Greg Allgood: a track record of results, amazing impact, and then taking people
• 30:00
  Dr. Greg Allgood: to see the work.
• 30:00
  Dr. Greg Allgood: We we run, on average, more than a a trip every week to whether
• 30:04
  Dr. Greg Allgood: it's to Central America to see our work in Honduras and Guatemala or the
• 30:07
  Dr. Greg Allgood: many places we work in Sub Saharan Africa, or in in Asia,
• 30:11
  Dr. Greg Allgood: or the Middle East.
• 30:12
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so, helping people to to see the work directly is is something that
• 30:16
  Dr. Greg Allgood: will inspire folks.
• 30:17
  Dr. Greg Allgood: But, we've also been blessed to be creative and come up with innovations to
• 30:21
  Dr. Greg Allgood: really appeal to people.
• 30:23
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And one of the ones I'd like to mention is innovation that we said
• 30:27
  Dr. Greg Allgood: is based on a couple of insights.
• 30:30
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Two insights in particular.
• 30:31
  Dr. Greg Allgood: One is the fact that the the global water crisis is something that
• 30:35
  Dr. Greg Allgood: is solvable.
• 30:37
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And that's not just hyperbole.
• 30:39
  Dr. Greg Allgood: It's it's not just a aspirational statement.
• 30:42
  Dr. Greg Allgood: The world has reached two point one billion people with clean water since
• 30:46
  Dr. Greg Allgood: two thousand.
• 30:47
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Two point one billion.
• 30:48
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And there's about seven hundred million left to reach.
• 30:51
  Dr. Greg Allgood: So we've come much further than the way we have to go to to
• 30:54
  Dr. Greg Allgood: solve this.
• 30:54
  Dr. Greg Allgood: This is a solvable crisis.
• 30:56
  Dr. Greg Allgood: That's the first insight.
• 30:57
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Yes.
• 30:58
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Second insight is the biggest reason people don't give to international development
• 31:02
  Dr. Greg Allgood: is they think the problems are too big.
• 31:03
  Dr. Greg Allgood: You're never really gonna solve anything.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: You're never gonna finish the job in things like providing clean water access.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: So those two insights are actually opposing each other.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Right?
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so, the disruptive idea we had was let's
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: prove that we can finish the job of providing clean water access
• 31:24
  Dr. Greg Allgood: to everyone everywhere we work in a country to prove that
• 31:28
  Dr. Greg Allgood: we can finish the job because, unfortunately, not for profits, including World
• 31:32
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Vision, ask for money for the same things in the same countries
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: year after year after year.
• 31:37
  Dr. Greg Allgood: So we sort of reinforce that you're never finishing the job.
• 31:40
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Right?
• 31:40
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so we turned that on its head.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: We started with Rwanda.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: We fulfilled our commitment in thirty nine areas of the country, more than one
• 31:48
  Dr. Greg Allgood: point two million people.
• 31:50
  Dr. Greg Allgood: We're just finishing Zambia now.
• 31:52
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Again, more than a million people finishing the job in in twenty nine
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: areas of the country, and we're well on our way to doing it in
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Honduras.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: We're there.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: We're gonna reach more than half of the people that don't have clean water
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: access in the rural areas of the entire country of
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Honduras.
• 32:10
  Dr. Greg Allgood: So next, we're doing we're we're doing Ghana.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: We just bit off the the ambitious goal of reaching
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: everyone in Ghana.
• 32:17
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And it's not, only clean water access or near people's or in people's homes.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: We're upgrading all the schools so they have clean water, sanitation, and handwashing
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: in all the health care centers.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: In Ghana, that means five hundred schools are gonna be upgraded and two hundred
• 32:31
  Dr. Greg Allgood: health care centers if we get the funds that are needed to do that
• 32:34
  Dr. Greg Allgood: work, and it's eighty five million dollars that we'll need to to, finish the
• 32:38
  Dr. Greg Allgood: job in in twenty three areas of Ghana.
• 32:42
  Lisa Nichols: That that I'm so glad that you mentioned that because I know
• 32:46
  Lisa Nichols: that you had that finish the job philosophy.
• 32:49
  Lisa Nichols: And so you just you just and true.
• 32:53
  Lisa Nichols: I mean, it's like if you're asking for the same thing every time, people
• 32:56
  Lisa Nichols: automatically are like, well, gosh.
• 32:57
  Lisa Nichols: This when is this ever gonna end?
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  Lisa Nichols: But, that was really, really smart.
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  Lisa Nichols: Really smart.
• 33:05
  Lisa Nichols: Gosh.
• 33:06
  Lisa Nichols: I've still got so many questions, but I know that we're running out of
• 33:09
  Lisa Nichols: time here.
• 33:10
  Lisa Nichols: You know?
• 33:12
  Lisa Nichols: We've already talked about your faith, and your faith has evolved,
• 33:16
  Lisa Nichols: so much over the years.
• 33:18
  Lisa Nichols: And I just I love like I said, I will not forget that.
• 33:21
  Lisa Nichols: You know?
• 33:21
  Lisa Nichols: Do you doubt that I can do this?
• 33:23
  Lisa Nichols: I what a great what a great encounter, you know, you had with
• 33:27
  Lisa Nichols: God in that.
• 33:30
  Lisa Nichols: You know, let's ask let me ask you this.
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  Lisa Nichols: You know, you visited hundreds of communities, hundreds of communities across the
• 33:37
  Lisa Nichols: world.
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  Lisa Nichols: Is there a family, Dr.
• 33:40
  Lisa Nichols: Allgood, that you'll never forget?
• 33:42
  Lisa Nichols: Can you remember a story of a family that you will never forget?
• 33:48
  Dr. Greg Allgood: There's there's a lot.
• 33:49
  Dr. Greg Allgood: In fact, I've been to Africa as an example, sub Saharan Africa more than
• 33:52
  Dr. Greg Allgood: seventy times, and I I do that because it fuels me.
• 33:56
  Dr. Greg Allgood: You know?
• 33:58
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Bible tells us that we'll we'll find Jesus among the suffering, and that is
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: true.
• 34:02
  Dr. Greg Allgood: That's the almost a a secret about visiting these areas
• 34:06
  Dr. Greg Allgood: and seeing world visits work is that you you get, fueled,
• 34:10
  Dr. Greg Allgood: and and you feel the presence of Jesus in these communities where they're suffering.
• 34:13
  Dr. Greg Allgood: But, just to pick one, a story of a of,
• 34:17
  Dr. Greg Allgood: something that will stay with me.
• 34:19
  Dr. Greg Allgood: It's more recent.
• 34:20
  Dr. Greg Allgood: It, it's in Kenya, and it's a a couple I met there.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Biblia and Lantanjian.
• 34:27
  Dr. Greg Allgood: That's a cool name.
• 34:28
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Biblia Bible and Lontongian.
• 34:30
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I have no idea what it means, but it's a really cool name.
• 34:32
  Lisa Nichols: It is.
• 34:32
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And he's a really cool looking dude.
• 34:34
  Dr. Greg Allgood: So they were in extreme poverty, before World Vision came into their community.
• 34:39
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And Biblia, along with her daughter, used to walk five miles a day,
• 34:44
  Dr. Greg Allgood: carrying water, much like I described the the women who are in the the
• 34:47
  Dr. Greg Allgood: the documentary long walk for water, carrying forty four pounds, strapped around
• 34:51
  Dr. Greg Allgood: her head, dragging another forty four pounds, and her daughter would go to a
• 34:55
  Dr. Greg Allgood: dry river bed.
• 34:56
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And there are camels and goats everywhere.
• 34:58
  Dr. Greg Allgood: So there's, you know, clearly highly contaminated water.
• 35:02
  Dr. Greg Allgood: They dig deep into the sand to get the water and haul it back,
• 35:04
  Dr. Greg Allgood: and her daughter would often miss school because of being sick from the dirty
• 35:08
  Dr. Greg Allgood: water or just being exhausted.
• 35:10
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And Biblia had no future except hauling water every day.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: No sun dissolve, no holidays, no Christmas off, everyday hauling water.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: She couldn't even dream of what a future might be beyond hauling water.
• 35:23
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Mhmm.
• 35:23
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Mhmm.
• 35:23
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Then World Vision came in with our development model and, you know, helped
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: her and her husband, Lontange, understand they're made in the image of a
• 35:31
  Dr. Greg Allgood: loving God.
• 35:32
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Everyone has been given tools by God to be successful.
• 35:36
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And, you know, we use exempt we we take them through trainings,
• 35:40
  Dr. Greg Allgood: for example, to understand that everyone has these different talents, and they can see
• 35:44
  Dr. Greg Allgood: that.
• 35:44
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Okay.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Biblio is very creative.
• 35:46
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Lantanjan is, you know, very organized, and, you know, they can see that everyone
• 35:49
  Dr. Greg Allgood: in the community has has different skills.
• 35:51
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Then you bring them the clean water access, and the time and energy is
• 35:54
  Dr. Greg Allgood: freed up.
• 35:55
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And and then and then, Billia entered a a savings group.
• 35:59
  Dr. Greg Allgood: For the first time in her life, she was able to buy things for
• 36:02
  Dr. Greg Allgood: herself, like, it she just purchased a dress when we recently gotten there.
• 36:06
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And the relationship between Billia and Lontonjian, he he told me,
• 36:10
  Dr. Greg Allgood: you know, before this, I felt like I was blind.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: Now I think I I I feel like I can see.
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: I didn't feel like a good father before because we could only afford one
• 36:19
  Dr. Greg Allgood: meal a day for our family.
• 36:22
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And and now, we're he told me, and showed me
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  Dr. Greg Allgood: that, Biblio and him are building latrines together, but making
• 36:30
  Dr. Greg Allgood: the bricks, digging the holes, building the trains, selling them in the community.
• 36:33
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Some of the first latrines this community has ever seen, they're doing together.
• 36:36
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Biblia's now that she has water access right there, she has a garden, better
• 36:40
  Dr. Greg Allgood: nutrition for her family, and selling the extra produce to in the market
• 36:45
  Dr. Greg Allgood: to to have income.
• 36:46
  Dr. Greg Allgood: So literally, their lives have been transformed, and so I'll never forget Biblia
• 36:50
  Dr. Greg Allgood: and Lontagian.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: At least
• 36:52
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I hope I won't forget his name.
• 36:54
  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 36:55
  Lisa Nichols: I love that story.
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  Lisa Nichols: And I bet you've just got thousands of those.
• 36:59
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 37:00
  Lisa Nichols: So that's beautiful.
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  Lisa Nichols: If a CEO is listening right now, Dr.
• 37:05
  Lisa Nichols: Allgood, and they want their company to make a greater impact
• 37:10
  Lisa Nichols: in the world, where should they where should they start?
• 37:15
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Well, you know, having a a company that not only has
• 37:19
  Dr. Greg Allgood: a a short term, you know, focus that they need to have for shareholders,
• 37:23
  Dr. Greg Allgood: but having an eternal purpose by really being able to use their success
• 37:27
  Dr. Greg Allgood: and their business to to, help others,
• 37:31
  Dr. Greg Allgood: is an extremely motivating thing for employees, for shareholders
• 37:35
  Dr. Greg Allgood: of the company.
• 37:36
  Dr. Greg Allgood: You know, P and G is a great example of that, how how they
• 37:39
  Dr. Greg Allgood: really make their purpose of improving lives, of the world's, people
• 37:43
  Dr. Greg Allgood: to come to life.
• 37:44
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And we have number of companies that support World Vision that do that.
• 37:47
  Dr. Greg Allgood: One that comes to mind is, RTI, Refined Technologies Incorporated.
• 37:52
  Dr. Greg Allgood: They have been a driver of our work in Honduras.
• 37:54
  Dr. Greg Allgood: They, have, the places they've reached with clean water
• 37:58
  Dr. Greg Allgood: through World Vision, their conference rooms are named after these communities
• 38:03
  Dr. Greg Allgood: with pictures of the community.
• 38:05
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Through World Vision, they take trips to see the work.
• 38:07
  Dr. Greg Allgood: They take their associates, down to see the work and
• 38:11
  Dr. Greg Allgood: come back and and share with the employees.
• 38:13
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And it is it is a a motivating,
• 38:17
  Dr. Greg Allgood: effort, that has helped propel them to success as
• 38:22
  Dr. Greg Allgood: as an organization.
• 38:23
  Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
• 38:24
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so, it's it's a great way to to fuel your
• 38:28
  Dr. Greg Allgood: company's success to really do something that is, beyond
• 38:32
  Dr. Greg Allgood: the everyday to to help help people thrive.
• 38:35
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 38:36
  Lisa Nichols: Oh, that's so good.
• 38:38
  Lisa Nichols: So good.
• 38:39
  Lisa Nichols: Well, let me do just a really fun little lightning round with you, and,
• 38:43
  Lisa Nichols: and then we're gonna talk about something extra.
• 38:46
  Lisa Nichols: So,
• 38:48
  Lisa Nichols: what is one word do you think and I know that you've got four
• 38:51
  Lisa Nichols: children and four grandchildren.
• 38:53
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Right?
• 38:54
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Maybe you've got grandchild on the way.
• 38:55
  Lisa Nichols: I was gonna say maybe you have one in the oven.
• 38:58
  Lisa Nichols: I don't know.
• 38:59
  Lisa Nichols: But that's that's awesome.
• 39:01
  Lisa Nichols: Grands are such a blessing, aren't they?
• 39:04
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Mhmm.
• 39:04
  Dr. Greg Allgood: They are.
• 39:04
  Lisa Nichols: Do you have a word?
• 39:06
  Lisa Nichols: In one word, how would your family describe you?
• 39:09
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Passionate.
• 39:10
  Lisa Nichols: Passionate.
• 39:11
  Lisa Nichols: Love it.
• 39:12
  Lisa Nichols: What about your coworkers?
• 39:15
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Well, passionate.
• 39:17
  Lisa Nichols: Passionate?
• 39:18
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 39:20
  Lisa Nichols: That's awesome.
• 39:20
  Lisa Nichols: Do you have a favorite Bible verse?
• 39:23
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Oh, I was thirsty.
• 39:24
  Dr. Greg Allgood: You gave me something to drink.
• 39:26
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Matthew talked
• 39:26
  Lisa Nichols: about.
• 39:27
  Lisa Nichols: That's a good one.
• 39:29
  Lisa Nichols: Yes.
• 39:29
  Lisa Nichols: He's like, when have you done it to me?
• 39:31
  Lisa Nichols: Do it to the least of these.
• 39:32
  Lisa Nichols: Right?
• 39:33
  Lisa Nichols: And they're like, when have we done that to you, Lord?
• 39:35
  Lisa Nichols: You know?
• 39:37
  Lisa Nichols: Well, most inspiring leader that you've ever met.
• 39:42
  Lisa Nichols: And that might be hard to
• 39:44
  Dr. Greg Allgood: No.
• 39:45
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Well,
• 39:47
  Dr. Greg Allgood: with with apologies to all the other leaders, John Pepper
• 39:51
  Dr. Greg Allgood: at P and G has has been a a personal mentor to me.
• 39:54
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And I know hundreds, if not thousands, of others, but I'm blessed to call
• 39:58
  Dr. Greg Allgood: John a friend.
• 39:59
  Dr. Greg Allgood: He, he he he really taught me about,
• 40:03
  Dr. Greg Allgood: doing the right things in life.
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  Lisa Nichols: Right.
• 40:06
  Lisa Nichols: I love that.
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  Lisa Nichols: Do you have a best leadership book beside the Bible and beside your
• 40:12
  Lisa Nichols: own that you, you know, go back to the best
• 40:16
  Lisa Nichols: leadership book that you've ever read?
• 40:18
  Lisa Nichols: I mean
• 40:18
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Well, there there's a lot, but one of them is written he happens to
• 40:21
  Dr. Greg Allgood: be a a World Vision donor, but he's, his name is Harman Kong.
• 40:25
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And the book is Values Over Valuables, and it's based on
• 40:29
  Dr. Greg Allgood: the premise that, ninety percent of wealth, is not transferred to the third
• 40:33
  Dr. Greg Allgood: generation.
• 40:33
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Seventy percent is lost by the second generation.
• 40:36
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And he says the way to address that is, first of all, being generous,
• 40:40
  Dr. Greg Allgood: you know, flattered, but also really helping your family,
• 40:45
  Dr. Greg Allgood: understand the principles that they want to value as a family.
• 40:49
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And for me, it's, it's family, faith, finances,
• 40:55
  Dr. Greg Allgood: fun, in my life.
• 40:57
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so, you know, making sure that my actions align with those
• 41:02
  Dr. Greg Allgood: those principles.
• 41:02
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And and Harmon's book does a wonderful job of of talking about values
• 41:06
  Dr. Greg Allgood: over valuables.
• 41:08
  Lisa Nichols: I love that.
• 41:09
  Lisa Nichols: Well, I'm getting that book today.
• 41:12
  Lisa Nichols: One daily habit that you never skip.
• 41:15
  Lisa Nichols: You know?
• 41:15
  Lisa Nichols: And I like to talk about morning routines and stuff, but is there a
• 41:19
  Lisa Nichols: daily habit that you never skip?
• 41:24
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Unfortunately, I have a a back that after years and years of running has
• 41:27
  Dr. Greg Allgood: has sort of gone out.
• 41:28
  Dr. Greg Allgood: So I start every morning with, twenty minutes of of stretching,
• 41:32
  Dr. Greg Allgood: and, my back was in bad shape when I created the P and G
• 41:35
  Dr. Greg Allgood: children's drinking water program.
• 41:37
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Wasn't sure if I was gonna be able to continue to work, and it's
• 41:40
  Dr. Greg Allgood: no worse than it was twenty five years ago.
• 41:43
  Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
• 41:44
  Lisa Nichols: Okay.
• 41:44
  Lisa Nichols: Good.
• 41:45
  Lisa Nichols: Alright.
• 41:45
  Lisa Nichols: So this is called something extra.
• 41:49
  Lisa Nichols: What do you believe Dr.
• 41:50
  Lisa Nichols: Allgood, Is this something extra that every leader needs?
• 41:55
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Well, there's not one for sure as you know.
• 41:57
  Dr. Greg Allgood: But if I had to pick one, I would say vision.
• 42:01
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so the vision, that we had to,
• 42:06
  Dr. Greg Allgood: to finish the job in countries has been a game changer.
• 42:09
  Dr. Greg Allgood: When I created the P and G Children's Day Drinking Water, my my boss
• 42:13
  Dr. Greg Allgood: at the time, Don Tasson, said write the vision of what would happen
• 42:17
  Dr. Greg Allgood: if P and G takes the bold step to create a not for profit
• 42:20
  Dr. Greg Allgood: business and write it in the present tense as if it's five years from
• 42:23
  Dr. Greg Allgood: now.
• 42:24
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And I I wrote it, and I really believe it was divinely inspired because
• 42:28
  Dr. Greg Allgood: it was far more reaching and had more things
• 42:32
  Dr. Greg Allgood: that we would achieve than than I ever could have believed.
• 42:35
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And I didn't I've actually but I feel it was divinely inspired to have
• 42:38
  Dr. Greg Allgood: this vision.
• 42:39
  Dr. Greg Allgood: I wrote it.
• 42:39
  Dr. Greg Allgood: It said we would the P and G effort would be praised by presidents
• 42:43
  Dr. Greg Allgood: and kings.
• 42:44
  Dr. Greg Allgood: We would provide a billion liters of clean water when as a for profit,
• 42:48
  Dr. Greg Allgood: we'd only provided thirty million liters.
• 42:50
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And John Pepper would come out of retirement to give the billionth liter away.
• 42:53
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Like, mind blowing stuff.
• 42:55
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Impossible to believe it could happen.
• 42:58
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Every word came true.
• 43:00
  Dr. Greg Allgood: And so that vision, helped us, you know, have the inspiration
• 43:04
  Dr. Greg Allgood: to create this this effort.
• 43:07
  Lisa Nichols: Oh, that's beautiful.
• 43:08
  Lisa Nichols: And it gives everyone something to align to, right, and
• 43:12
  Lisa Nichols: something to aspire to.
• 43:14
  Lisa Nichols: That's beautiful.
• 43:15
  Lisa Nichols: Well,
• 43:17
  Lisa Nichols: Greg, it has been such a pleasure to be with
• 43:21
  Lisa Nichols: you on this.
• 43:22
  Lisa Nichols: I cannot wait for our listeners to hear your story, to hear
• 43:26
  Lisa Nichols: the World Vision story, to hear what you guys are
• 43:30
  Lisa Nichols: doing in the world to make the world a better place.
• 43:33
  Lisa Nichols: And, I just appreciate your time.
• 43:35
  Lisa Nichols: Thank you so much for sharing your time with me.
• 43:38
  Dr. Greg Allgood: Thank you, Lisa.
• 43:38
  Dr. Greg Allgood: It's been a pleasure to spend the time with you.
• 43:40
  Lisa Nichols: It's been awesome.
• 43:41
  Lisa Nichols: Thanks so much.
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