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Week 7 Recap: Vikings Stay Unbeaten & Seattle Drops Kansas City · Banter with the Boys

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From the biggest plays to the hottest takes.
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From kickoff to the final whistle. You're listening
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with the Boys. Gridiron Updates. This is our
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recap episode of week seven of The Shield. N
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.F .L. Meh. Yeah, whatever. I am your host, Smeltsy.
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Next to me is Roberto. To my Larry is Jake. Yo.
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Jake. That's it. That's right. I can't call you
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the other thing. That's his thing. Oh, but you're
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Flock Doc, so. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, Flock
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Doc's in the house, as always. Kev, be on the
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camera. Europe. I don't think I... Really explained
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it, did I? I mean, I said that we recap week
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seven games. What games are we recapping? The
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seven. No, week seven. Four of them. Yeah, what
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four games are we recapping? Well, we'll get
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to it. Bengals, Ravens, Colts, Vikings, Packers,
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Lions, Chiefs, Seachickens. There it is. Thanks,
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Rob. You're welcome. This is already off the
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rails. Oh, my God. All right. So let's start
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off with our first game here in the slate. The
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Bengals traveling to the Baltimore Ravens. Bengals
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getting the win, 35 -13. And if this game wasn't
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the definition of two halves, I don't know what
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is. Jake, we always like getting your take first.
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Feel free to take only one minute. to tell us
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how bad they are. No, I'm just kidding. I don't
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care. But take as long as you need to explain
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to us the situation in Baltimore hair. Yeah,
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I don't think there's really much to explain
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right now. Obviously, Lamar was laid out on Saturday,
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which was kind of surprising. So we had Snoop
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Huntley was starting again. Was Lamar full practice
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leading up? He wasn't full practice. He was partial
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participant throughout the entire week. Partial
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participant. Yeah, so he was questionable. uh
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on the injury report friday kind of maybe giving
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everybody hope or an expectation that he's gonna
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play and then saturday they're like no he's out
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yeah i heard the press conference of him saying
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it's not about the swelling it's the pain tolerance
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so with that and it's described now as a originally
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it was just an ankle sprain but now they're saying
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it's a high ankle sprain which usually results
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in being out a little bit longer so i mean we'll
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see how now are you concerned leading up i mean
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we can get your take in the next episode we yeah
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we'll talk about injuries yeah well let's let's
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uh put a pin in that we'll table that we're talking
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about this game the bangles the bangles um i
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ultimately yeah tale of two halves ravens defense
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just ran out of gas in the second half um didn't
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have they actually had some pretty decent consistency
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for the most part, with a few extended drives.
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In the first half or second half? Well, in the
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first half, it was fine because they were going
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into half 13 -0. So they were doing all right.
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But then they just ran out of gas. A couple of
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questionable play calls again. losing their identity.
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So in the fourth quarter, they were only down
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by a score, and there were still nine minutes
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left. And then at that point in time, they just
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kind of went, we're just going to throw the ball
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the rest of the game. They did. They got very
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pass happy in that second half. So not really
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thrilled with that. And then the Bengals' defensive
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line really had their way with that offense.
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Excuse me. against the Ravens offense. Your boy
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Juergens played, though. I did see him. So, yeah,
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they gave up four sacks, and they did a really
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great job of stopping Derrick Henry, too. So
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hats off to the Bengals defense for just really
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focusing on stopping Derrick Henry, essentially
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putting him into a pass -only kind of attack,
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which benefits the Bengals. And then that Bengals
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offense finally figured it out, started clicking,
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and then that's where the Ravens defense just
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got tired, couldn't keep up. Well, for sure.
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All of that is 100 % true. For me, it was when
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they went for it on that fourth down in Bengal
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territory instead of taking the hopefully easy
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three, right? But loop has been kind of up and
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down, I guess. So now that I say that, I mean,
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I guess I see why maybe. But I don't know. I
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think for me, I would take that. Easy hindsight,
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right, of course. Sure. But I think I take that
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three, and now you're in the lead, whereas the
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Bengals drive down the field there and then never
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look back. So now that defense is playing with
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the lead, which then turned them up seemingly
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another notch. Like you said, now they're passing
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the ball, too, which is not necessarily Ravens'
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strength. But, man, how about Zay Flowers, though?
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I mean, some of the best footwork in the league,
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right? Yeah, continues to look really great.
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uh, super fast, quick cuts. Uh, he's hard to
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keep covered. Um, and we were, we were kind of
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talking about this before, before we started
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recording. Um, I think he should be in the conversation
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as like a top five wide receiver in the league
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right now. Yeah. Um, he's, he's in 10 for sure,
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but I think you could probably make some cases
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or have an argument for him being a top five
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wide receiver right now. And they already, they
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re negotiated his contract at the beginning of
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the year. So he's tied up for a few more years.
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So we're surprisingly set or in a good position
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with a wide receiver, which is out of the ordinary
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for Baltimore Ravens fans. Yeah. He's giving
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me a lot of, uh, Tyreek Hill vibes of, uh, He
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went back and Casey, you know, just that multi
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-tool that you can use. I mean, that was a tale
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of two halves, what he said in the opener. Since
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he got the ball to start the half, they went
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down and scored. He goes in with a nice catch
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in the corner. Then the following kickoff. The
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special teams for the Bengals came and put a
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smack on that. That wasn't going to change the
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sideline vibes. They got a quick three and out,
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really. They went back down and scored again.
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And then that's where Baltimore started getting
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pass happy. They started first down throwing.
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They completed one. And then the next first down,
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they pass, pass. And then also in that fourth
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down that you were talking about, that was a
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fourth and two. That was another scenario. Why
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is Derrick Henry not even on the field for that
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play? of that play action they ran on that mesh
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route wasn't even there so like that this that
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offensive coordinator right now in baltimore
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he just gets a little confusing in the second
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half like that where you have a 13 -0 lead yeah
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they scored in the opening drive but that's where
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you get back to you know let's go back to big
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personnel and just pound the ball And they got
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away from it. And then Cincinnati just got hot.
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That was the difference of how that game flipped
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really quick in that first eight minutes of the
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third quarter. So you mentioned Cincinnati getting
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hot. They won in Miami. Was it in Miami? Yeah,
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it was. It was in Miami last week. They have
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now won in Baltimore. They now have three straight
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home games against the Titans, the Falcons, and
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the Steelers, all potentially winnable games
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for the Bengals. Talk about getting hot. This
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could be that time. Excuse me. Jesus, I don't
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know where that came from. But that could be
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that time for the Bengals right now. Yeah, Bengals
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is kind of the team I have my eye on, especially
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that defense playing. I mean, that's a different
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Bengals defense than we're all used to in the
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past. So, like I say, as fans out there, if you're
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not watching Bengals football, their defense
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is not the Bengals defense of the past. That's
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facts. And then we'll get our takes on the Ravens.
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They play the Bills next week, and we can talk
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about what the Ravens have ahead of them. But
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let's move on here to our second game. Don't
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forget to check that other episode out, by the
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way. That'll be our Week 8 Preview and Picks
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episode. Let's see here. Game 2. Yes, of course.
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It's cold, baby. Vikes getting the win here.
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Colts traveling to Minnesota, but losing 10 -16.
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Vikings winning 16 -10, however you want to look
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at it. In Minnesota, we choose to look at it
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16 -10, 6 -0, 3 -0 at home, 6 -0 overall. Let's
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go to the Bulls. I mean, every time you stack
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a win in the NFL, you take them every time. I
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mean, have they been beautiful? No. Are you concerned?
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I mean, you always want to be concerned when
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you start to get like next week when you play
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the Lions and be concerned if we get in a track
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meet. I mean, that's always the biggest concern
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where that offense can keep up with a scenario
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where the defense Indy was a perfect example
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of team that they did it kind of expose the Vikings
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defense. What you need to do if you can establish
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a little bit of running game and then play action
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quick or outs and stuff on that disguise defense.
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But then also towards the fourth quarter, I mean,
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Flores got him into the third and longs. It's
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that, you know, playing the sticks scenario.
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And that's where all those – he saves a bunch
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of stuff. I saw a really interesting thing on
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the athletic thing about just, like, how the
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– like, the NFL is – like, when they decided
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that rushing four is the norm. And I feel like
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that's where Flores has kind of developed a whole
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different concept of defense. I'm kind of stealing
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this, but I totally agree with it. It's just
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like, why isn't just rushing five the norm? You
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know, and then you can start to see now the NFL
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is a very copycat league. And you're seeing a
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lot more, especially on third downs, a lot of
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defensive coordinators showing that front. So
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is it just rushing four versus five? Is that
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just the new norm? So we're looking at this blitz
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rate at 85. Well, I don't think Flores is really
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looking at it as he's blitzing. He's just bringing
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five. It's really kind of like the 85 bears.
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It is. Where he's just like, we're going to put
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five on the line, and then we're going to go
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light in the back, and then we're going to beat
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you here. Yeah. And then we know your tendencies,
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so we're going to drop in those little zones
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where it makes your first look very difficult.
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Yep. And they're doing that really. I mean, I'm
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going to give it out to Blake Cashman. The dude
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played probably the best career probably game
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stat line for sure. I mean, so, Blake, dude,
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you balled out this week, you know. Yeah, two
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sacks to it, TFLs. And then on the offensive
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side, yeah, I always feel it's just not. one
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person that makes this mistake it's just a collective
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people one guy offsides here another guy makes
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a hold here guy misses a block here jennings
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you know and that he had that opportunity to
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that one -handed catch i'm like oh did you see
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jetta's reaction to that no right after that
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play he like double fists i've never seen him
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do this he like double fisted at the sky like
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I had never seen that before. I mean, I assume
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that room wants to see him catch one. I was just
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surprised to even hear Jennings' name called.
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Yeah. I mean, he was targeted, actually. At least
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it felt like it. What's the official target?
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I think we're trying to get him the ball. It
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felt like it was more than that. It was just
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like it just... At the beginning of the season,
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everyone was hyped. It's like, all right, we've
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got a third good wide receiver. He's just been
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absolutely quiet. They've schemed plays at Washington,
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although 22. Kyler just missed him a ton. And
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then it was actually the exact same play that
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he missed him three weeks ago. They ran on this
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last week where he tried a one -hand catch. It
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was the exact same play. Double mesh cross route.
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They fed it to him, and timing's off. It was
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nice to see Jordan Mason back this week for the
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legs. Big difference. And with Aaron Jones' knee
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kind of re -aggravated again, something he's
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kind of been dealing with for a hot minute now.
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Again, sparking some of those Minnesota trade
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rumors of somebody they may or may not bring
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in, and it was the guy they played against, JT,
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going off for 95 yards. Yeah, he had that long
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one at the beginning, and that was pretty much...
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For the most part, it really, if you take away
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that 38, they really kind of had him. 3 .3. Yeah,
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they had him under wraps for most of the game.
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And I think that really hats off to Flores because
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in just getting the team to be like, this is
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the guy that we have to stop. Because initially
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when he busted that long one for the touchdown,
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I'm like, oh, boy, this is going to be a long
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day for the Vikings. But Flores. That was Theo
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Jackson on that play that made a horrible decision.
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Okay. Thank you. You're giving me nothing. You're
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just riding high right now. I'm not, actually.
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I'm not. I'm very concerned about next week.
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But we'll find out more about that in our week
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8. All right. Yeah, we'll talk about it. Hey,
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we got out of it 6 -0. Yeah, yeah. The Vikings
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did. Only undefeated team in the NFL now. We
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are. That is true. That is true. I do want to
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say, though. We're in that yellow jersey again.
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There it is. A tour de NFL. I was really impressed
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with that Colts defensive line, though. They
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did play really well all game. And really were
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shredding the O -line of the Vikings, which.
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Had a healthy Derrissaw and O 'Neal and whatnot.
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But O 'Neal, man, early in the game, he was just
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getting absolutely worked. So it was good to
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see him kind of settle in later. But, man, it
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was not looking great to start with. Whoa, you
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got something? I was just going to say, are you
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going to give an assist to the announcers for
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Jinx and the Colts kicker? No. Because they were
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talking, like, prior to his first miss, they
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were talking about how he hadn't, like, missed
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a field goal. Perfect. Thank you. Thank you.
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Like, what, 25 -some -odd attempts like that?
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And then all of a sudden, he's just like, boop.
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Right on. I like it. Right on. Thank you, whoever
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that was. Colts go to Jaguars next week. I think
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that was Ian Eagle was doing play -by -play.
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Who was the color? I can't remember. He's not
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a guy that I'm familiar with. I'm like, who is
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that voice? And then I always forget. He made
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one comment. I'm like, what? Colts travel to
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Jacksonville next week. Thoughts before we move
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on? They need to win or there's a fire sale.
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Yeah, for sure. And then Jacksonville's coming
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off of a bye, too, so that's going to be a tough
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one for the Colts to try and pull together. Right
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on. Yeah, they got to win. Right on. We'll talk
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about the Vikes later, of course, in our Week
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8 preview and picks episode. Picking on our parade
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squad. What's that? Our parade squad. Settle
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down there. Let's move on to our game three.
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There it is. You know what I mean? Packers traveling
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to Detroit, the Motor City Kitties. And they
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end up getting the win. 20 -17 after the Packers
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continued to give them multiple opportunities
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to do so. No, the refs did that. Hold on. Let's
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be honest. Packers are just getting it without
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the lube. Yeah. And a big drop pass for a touchdown
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late in the game. True. You're a guy that shouldn't
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be playing in the league. continue to say they
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have the packers have to play better than the
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refs ref but there were like three calls the
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two roughing the passers and then there was an
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intentional grounding call that just kind of
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got like overloading was horrible which that
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was bad the one with tucker craft yeah yeah where's
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the the assist from the sky cam that just goes
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dude you were standing next to craft the guy
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that threw the flag was standing next to him
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like come on meow Are they trying to argue he
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wasn't outside the pocket? No. That doesn't matter,
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though, if it's in his vicinity. Yeah, if he's
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inside the pocket and he gets past the line of
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scrimmage and then there's still a receiver in
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the area, that's not grounding. I think we need
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to do a redraft for the refs this year. A little
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redraft? Honestly, NFL, this is probably the
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worst I've seen in a while. And I thought, or
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it's my understanding, that that's what the...
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Sky Judge or whatever you want to call it is
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there for to help pick up those kinds of flags.
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No, that wasn't rough. That two -hand touch push,
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that wasn't roughing the passer. From Roberto,
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redraft to the refs because he's watched a lot
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of football. I think everybody, every fan base
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would agree with me. Even as a Vikings fan, the
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Packers in that game just... What? The Packers
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have had eight roughing the passer penalties
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called against them so far this season. The next
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highest team, the next highest amount by a team
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is four. I don't know. They need to change that
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whole out -of -the -pocket throwing. There's
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got to be someone available. A three -yard buffer.
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They're usually really generous about any area.
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They are. They're extra generous. Which made
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that one even, yeah. But either way, Lions squeaked
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it out. Packers had an opportunity to still win
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that game. Like you said, you know. ankle bracelet,
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dropped one in the corner, and then... Oh, my
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God. And then even after roughing the passer,
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the next play, Jacobs ran for 15 yards and got
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him into field goal range. But also missed field
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goal early on. Or Gibbs, not Jacobs. Gibbs, yeah.
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Missed field goal early on for the Packers, then
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going for it on fourth down as well when they
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could have elected to tie the game potentially
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before half. And then Detroit, like, fumbled.
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Well, yeah, they had the two fumbles, like, to
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bookend the half. They could have potentially,
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well... It could have had six or even 14 points.
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This game was a lot closer than it needed to
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be or than it should have been. 100%. But Packers
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fall in the four and three lines, move into four
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and two. So technically above the old pack. Do
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we cover either? I don't think we cover either
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one of them. Oh, yeah, the lines, of course.
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So we'll talk about the Packers quick. Let's
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see. Who do they got next? Bing bong. They got
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the Panthers at home at Lambeau. Panthers just
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got shellacked, though, by the Buccaneers. They
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got punched in the mouth by a Buccaneer. And
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it's not going to get any easier traveling to
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Lambeau, and it's starting to get a little chilly
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up here in the old Midwestern parts here. I like
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it. So right on. Real quick, real quick after
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that, they go at Patriots on the Vikes again.
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So tough sledding for the Packers right now,
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but, hey, if they can pull off a couple of these.
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They are right back in it. Game four for us.
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Still no word on Parsons, though, right? It was
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just last night. Sorry. No, you're good. You're
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good. No, nothing on him. You know what? Well,
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we'll look it up. We'll talk about it. Yeah,
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that's right. Chiefs traveling to Seattle to
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play the Sea Chickens. They shouldn't have even
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traveled. Oh, geez. Wow. You're very disappointed.
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Brutal. I mean. You're very disappointed in the
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way the Chiefs played. I actually am really impressed
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with how the Seachickens played. Absolutely.
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The Seattle defense we knew was going to be good,
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but we didn't. I picked the Seahawks. Did you
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pick the Seahawks? No, I didn't. I picked the
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Chiefs. Why? I thought Kenneth Walker III was
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going to be like, the revenge game, I'm going
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to show you. And Mike McDonald had that defense
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being like, we're going to stop Kenneth, and
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we're not going to let any of that happen. If
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Mahomes beats us, Mahomes beats us, but we're
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not going to let Kenneth. Neither one of those
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guys beat them. No. Mahomes just got lit up time
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and time again. That fumble when he got hit from
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behind. Like Christmas tree ready. Yeah. But
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then he got back up again. Oh, did he? I guess.
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Twice? He does, Chris. Well, I mean, if you want
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to do comparisons, he at least got up and tried
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to get the fumble on Cam Newton. He did. Super
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Bowl cam? He recovered it, yeah. I'm still confused
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on how he got it, though, because he was so late
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to that last pile. I know. But Mahomes ends up
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with it. Like, what? Must have got his little...
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Small little man -child hands and they have that
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little zombie out of there. I don't know. Sorry.
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Did you say small hands? I don't know. I don't
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know. Can't be smaller than Kenny Pickens. Can't
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confirm. Yeah. Your boy went 4 -0, by the way,
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this week because I picked the Seatrick. That's
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right. That's the first 4 -0 for your boy this
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week. Kevin, did you listen to Smelty and put
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money on it? No, he did not because he saw all
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the other weeks and he was like, hell no. Everybody
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else went 3 -1. I went 4 -0. No, you did not.
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In his heart, he did. Well, okay. Well, in my
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heart, the Vikings have already won a Super Bowl.
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I wake up every day and that's not the freaking
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case. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It
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doesn't matter. Anyway. Anyway. Yes. Chiefs Seattle.
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Yeah, whatever. Chiefs finally took a loss. I
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mean. Yeah. I mean, Seahawks set the edge. They
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weren't going to let that outside run zone go.
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And then they funneled it all back in. And they
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shut down the game. And you can see the loss
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with Rice and Thornton being gone. They can't
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stretch the field as much. JSN really worked
21:42
the number one draft pick for the Chief Delaney.
21:45
I mean, Delaney had blanket coverage on him.
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Sam was throwing some dimes on that, you know.
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And Spag wasn't – they were hardly getting to
21:56
Sam at all. No, yeah. There was, like, no pressure
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on Sam. Sam was getting rid of the ball quick.
22:01
Yeah. In which he was really effective last year.
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And this year he's been holding on a little bit
22:06
longer with the ball and not playing like he
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did last year. You see Seattle play this game,
22:13
and that's how they made it to the Super Bowl.
22:15
They look really scary. I mean, that's the team
22:19
that won the Super Bowl that you saw play against
22:21
the Chiefs this last weekend. That's right. You
22:27
mentioned the Chiefs passing. The receivers are
22:30
down, missing some targets out there. Is there
22:33
an outside chance? We heard him say he wants
22:36
to go to a cold -weather team, that we see a
22:39
return of Tyreek Hill. part of a Tyreek Hill
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would you even see after an injury like that?
22:45
I'm not sure. I imagine he wouldn't return if
22:48
he can't go. I'll ask the question to you. What
22:51
do you think he's got left in the tank? He could
22:53
show it to the Chiefs and what you'd want to
22:55
see. I would hope that he could still be some
22:59
sort of downhill threat, but you'd imagine some
23:01
of that speed's going to be gone. I'd be curious
23:04
to know if any of the off -the -field legal stuff
23:12
is going to come back, and the commissioner's
23:14
going to be like, well, we're still going to
23:15
have to decide. Yeah, we don't want to do that
23:18
with that. Yeah. So it's like, if you do, how
23:21
many games are you going to get them for? So,
23:24
okay, so let's drop the Tyreek Hill thing. Are
23:27
the Chiefs trying to make a move before the trade
23:30
deadline then to try to acquire another pass
23:32
catcher here? I think they have to. I mean, that's
23:36
where I guess the Vikings have always leveraged,
23:38
if you wanted to, Joe Andreans or even, I mean,
23:40
Addison. Well, my ask is kind of high on Addison.
23:44
Well, you'd ask for the whole kit and caboodle
23:49
if you were giving up Addison. How much are you
23:51
asking for for Addison? One. For sure. Pass.
23:55
Yeah, but desperate teams are desperate managers.
23:57
You know, like sauce. Sauce. How about as soon
24:03
as Kirk will change, get traded back. I heard
24:05
on my way here the Jets. Wilson. Yeah, Gary Wilson.
24:12
Yeah, he is. I'm happy. There's a handful of
24:16
receivers you could probably pick through a couple
24:17
teams around the down. Right. Let's table that.
24:22
Let's table that for the next episode where we
24:24
will talk about a little bit more of that because
24:26
now we're starting to get into it, which is great.
24:28
Getting into the next episode? Yeah, getting
24:30
into the next episode, which, by the way, is
24:32
our tent talk. Oh, Rob! Oh, God, my arm hurts.
24:40
God, I'm getting old. I don't know. It's just
24:42
sore. Am I going to have to give you a massage?
24:45
All right. No. Anyway, that will end our week
24:52
seven recap episode here for Gridiron Updates.
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Roberto, thanks for being here. Jake, yep. Thanks
25:00
for having me. Nope, I don't need a response.
25:02
Thank you. I run it. I run it. Shut up. Kev?
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25:26
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25:28
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