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Brian Thomas: Biblical Non-Negotiables & Idolatry Of Professing Christians · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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defending biblical Christianity.
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No topic, off limits.
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And now, here's your host, David Fierazzo.
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Friends and family in Christ, welcome to World View Matters, you're moving as the camera
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comes in.
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But I wanted to mention this letter, I just got another letter, praise God, God bless
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you sister Nina from Virginia, and she sent, she's old school, I love that, sent a little
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donation in, and always an encouraging note, and I'll tell you what, I read everyone,
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we don't get a lot, but I read every note or letter that comes in, and I'm just so, that's
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how we encourage one another, and it's just a blessing.
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So thank you, shout out to Virginia.
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So in the last couple of days, we've heard from a couple of different states, so praise
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God for that, keep in world view matters going strong.
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Well, this brother that I'm going to talk to today, I'm just getting to him more, and
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everything I find out about this guy, I love.
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So I want to introduce to you, Brian Thomas, he's the founder and president of God first,
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and also he's with Blessings to Israel, BlessingsToIsrael.com, and Brian accepted the Lord Jesus
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at the age of eight, oh my goodness, he's actively served in ministry, different capacities
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in his young life, I'm calling him, I can say that because he's younger than I am, and
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in 2008, he accepted a ministry heading toward a passion for Bible prophecy, he has a BA
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in mathematics, a minor in computer science from the University of North Carolina at Wilmington,
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and man, he's been on different TV programs, a day star network, NRB, and several others,
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he's married to his ministry co-founder, Danita, and they are parents of two beautiful children,
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and this brother is also, you can contact him on Facebook that is BlessingsToIsrael, Blessings
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ToIsrael Ministries, if you want to search on Facebook, another thing he does, a radio
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show.
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After his voice, you'll understand why, discerning the times, it's at truthnetwork.com, that's
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truthnetwork.com, you can look under programming and find Brian Thomas and discerning the times.
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God bless you brother, so good to have you on World View Matters, welcome.
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Hey, thank you David, it's such an honor to be with you, I've followed your ministry
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for four years since I first discovered you, I've listened to every single episode, so
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it is truly an honor, you've inspired me tremendously, so thank you for having me.
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Wow, you're most welcome brother, thanks for saying that, and we got you on, you can't
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take that back, because now it's out there, it's on, we recorded you saying that, thanks
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brother, but it's so good to have you on, we've been working out dates for, I don't know,
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probably several months, but we wanted to have your wife on, maybe Danita will join us
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next time, as we were talking about before we got on the area, she makes, you look really
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good, I mean, you look good on your own brother, but she makes you look really good, and
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isn't that a blessing, huh, so, yeah, obviously because of looking at your websites, looking
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at all you do, you're obviously trying to use your life, you really, I think it was
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spurred in the talk about pouring out our lives for Christ, and it just seems like from
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what I know about you, you're just trying to use everything you can, and that's what
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we should be doing in our sphere of influence, to try to talk about the biblical worldview,
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preach the gospel, get people, the word of God, and also confront some of these issues
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that are going on in this day and age, in our culture, in America, so I appreciate
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that about you, and I wanted to talk a little bit about your background, and then talk about
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your, you seem to have a passion for Israel, and I say that like it's a rare thing, and
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unfortunately, it kind of is, even in the church today, I don't know what you'd have
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to say about that, but let's just share a little bit about your background, Brian,
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let our viewers get to know you a little bit.
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Yeah, so David, as you said in my bio, I accepted Jesus at a young age, and even at a young
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age, I had a very strong passion for Bible prophecy, you know, and I just said something
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of the Holy Spirit put in me, even before 10 years old, and I think that's what day I
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was out riding bicycles with my cousins, they were about the age of eight and nine, and
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we were just riding, doing what kids do, and we stopped for a little breather, and I started
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talking to them about the seven-year tribulation, and when you're 10 years old, their eyes
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were just glossing over, like these guys really lost it, you know, but then we just went
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on and kept riding, but I've always had that passion in me for Bible prophecy, and that's
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something that the Holy Spirit just put in my heart at a young age, and I grew up in
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a rural area, we didn't have internet, then we didn't have cable, we didn't have satellite,
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we had the rabbit ears, so the only thing we could get was Jack Van Impey, he came on
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once a week, and I always look forward to watching Jack Van Impey, but I bait a decision
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that if God ever called me into ministry, that I would have a very heavy emphasis on
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Bible prophecy.
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Well, and of course, that almost naturally translates to Israel, right?
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And so, you know, when did that develop in your heart, in your ministry, and then maybe
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you saw some fruit of that in your life, just your love and your appreciation for Israel?
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Yeah, so it's kind of interesting how that came about, but when we got into formal ministry,
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we, meaning my wife and I, she's the co-founder with me, it really came about when in 2008,
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during the campaign of Barack Obama, and what happened was we were both in churches
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that we came up in, and that was a lot of really idolatry, what I saw in people really
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supporting and promoting Obama, even from the pulpit, and just to give you an example,
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the church that I was in, they hung a huge portrait of Obama in the four year, and in
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her church, they had this photo on the bulletin, the program that they hand out for the service.
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So we spoke to the pastors privately and respectfully, because we went to the Bible and we said,
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well, you know, this man, the things he stands for when it comes to marriage, abortion,
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and Israel are things that are in contradiction to the Bible.
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Yes.
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And well, we were shocked by those, those pastors, because the unfortunate thing David is,
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we were in a question of, in a predominantly black church, but unfortunately, there are
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many out there who have more of an allegiance to their political party and their race than
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they do to God.
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And we were very saddened by that, but you know, and I told people, I am a Christian first
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and then I'm black second.
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So we began to look around for at least one voice that was at least confirming what
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we were thinking when it came to it.
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And I felt the Holy Spirit said, well, I've given you a voice, so use it.
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So what that did was it led to the launching of our ministry in 2009.
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And as we were thinking of what to call it, the Holy Spirit put it on our heart, Israel,
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God was saying, share Israel because Israel is the prophetic time clock that is pointing
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to the return of Jesus Christ.
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And so we decided to name it blessings to Israel based on Genesis 12, 3.
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So the tie there was that, you know, when we looked at Barack Obama, me, one of the things
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was that he was very much in support of dividing the land of Israel, which God warns against.
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And so that is what we, that was basically our background, our story.
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And we are heavy on apologetics, prophecy, Israel.
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And so, you know, we think about Jesus hammered the Pharisees and Sadducees, he said, you
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can discern the weather, but you cannot discern the signs of the times.
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And so that is what we are trying to do, get people to understand the times that we're
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living in.
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Oh, man, I wish you could clone yourself, but that's not biblical.
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Everything you said, brother, big amen.
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And I know you've obviously, if you've heard my podcast before, I want to talk about
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idolatry.
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I think that's going to be maybe the theme for this show today, because that I've been
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very disappointed for people.
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And it isn't something interesting that goes hand in hand with that.
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The biblical illiteracy of the church in America to get them to the point where whether
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it's Obama or Trump or somebody else, they put someone up on a pedestal.
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And it's like, what happened to what the Bible teaches?
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You know what I mean?
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I mean, they're not looking at that.
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So I had a breakfast meeting, I'll never forget this, during that campaign cycle with
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who's it, Obama, Biden and McCain, Palin.
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And I was meeting with a brother, a conservative brother in Christ for breakfast.
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And it was a light conversation and I said, so brother, so who are you going to vote
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for next month?
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An election, straight face, he says, I think I'm going to vote for Barack Obama and I waited
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for the punch line, because this guy tends to be a little comedian and I looked at and
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waited for the punch line and I said, you're not joking?
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And he says, well, no, I said, well, why, what makes you want to vote for him?
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And I'm remembering the conversation, it was something like, he's young, charismatic
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and articulate, if I remember right, something like that.
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And so I'm thinking, okay, do you know anything about his worldview?
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And this was a Christian friend, his background, did you do any research?
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He says, well, no, I haven't looked at the candidates yet and here we are, he seemed
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to have his mind made up who he's going to vote for.
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But I'll bet a lot of people in our audience and people that listen to you, Brian and your
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ministries on your radio show and podcasts, they could say the same thing if they were
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to have conversations with people before that election, before other elections.
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But I really want to encourage people, and I want to hear what you think about this.
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I've lost some friends, Christian friends, because you're mentioning a single issue like
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abortion.
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You know, come on, how can you vote for the Democrats?
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They want to sacrifice children or homosexuality, same sex marriage or socialism, things like
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that.
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They think, oh, we're supposed to give to, you know, help the, you know, the widows and
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they, yeah, we're in the, you don't tax people.
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That's theft to give to others anyway.
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So what they, what I tell them is what you're doing is you want to do some good works and
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that's great.
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We should all do good works.
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But biblically, when you line up what this person believes with the Bible, it doesn't justify
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your vote.
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So what I'm saying, Brian, is I think I've learned in my, at least in recent years, my adult
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left to use idolatry as the problem when someone wants, it leans, when someone says they're
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a Christian, let's say that.
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They say they're a Christian and then they lean left or progressive or liberal, which is
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an oxymorne.
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But what are your thoughts on that?
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Because I've lost a lot of, not a lot of friends, but a handful of friends because they don't
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want to talk about politics anymore because they just had that liberal worldview.
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And when it comes to idolatry, though, then that's saying, okay, what you said early
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on, they're putting something else above the Bible and the scripture and the teaching of
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God's word.
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What do you think about that?
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Yeah.
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I mean, you're so right, David, and it's very pervasive in our society, even in the church.
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We've did episodes, podcasts, series on things like secret societies, Greek fraternities
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and sororities, free masonry.
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And I've had people that are in those organizations and I've gone to them to show them this is
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what these ritual books say.
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And they say, well, I'm not giving up the brotherhood or I'm not giving up the sisterhood.
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And I tell them you are putting that before God.
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And that is what we see so common in society.
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And as you, you know, your point, when it comes to politics, when it comes to ethnicity,
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a lot of people put that ahead of God and this idolatry.
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And like you, my wife and I, since we've gotten into ministry, we've been very vocal about
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these matters.
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And we have unfortunately lost a lot of friends, even family members who shun us as a result
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of it.
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But again, we say we are going to stand on the word of God.
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We're not going to back down.
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I look at the giants of the faith like Daniel and those type of people in the Bible that
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said they were not going to compromise no matter what.
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And so that is what we stand on the true biblical word.
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And when I go out to vote and when I try to encourage people how to look at voting,
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there are three issues that for me are non-negotiable.
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And those are marriage, abortion, and Israel.
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And if a candidate is on the wrong side of the Bible with any of those issues, they do
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not get my vote.
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But there are unfortunately a lot of people that will say, well, no, I'm going to put my
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favorite candidate on my favorite party ahead of what the word of God says.
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And so exactly what you're saying, that is idolatry.
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I think when we come back from our brief pause, I think I'd like to talk a little bit
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about people's misunderstanding of what is a biblical issue or moral issue and what is
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a political issue because my friend Paul Blair, the head founder of Liberty Pastors, he often
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talks about this, how people, they tend to compartmentalize their faith.
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And like, well, I just, I can believe this about that, but I can then go vote.
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And they're trying to, there's a disconnect there, but it's not consistent with the biblical
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world.
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Anyway, we're with Brian Thomas.
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And before we take a pause, I want to give you his websites again, briefly, a couple
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of them, blessings to israel.com.
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And also you can go to this truthnetwork.com.
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And the show is discerning the times that's the radio show.
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Look them up on Facebook, blessings to Israel ministries.
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So Brian, great discussion.
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I'm really enjoying this because it seems, I mean, for as long as you've been doing this,
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and as long as I've been doing this, this contend to seem redundant.
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But it's such an important issue because a lot of people still don't get it.
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And some people are now just waking up and catching on after they're seeing what's going
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on in our country, in the schools with Hollywood, our government, in the world, with globalism.
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Now they're kind of going, oh, something's happening, I better start paying attention.
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But they've still got this faulty idea that these issues that they should avoid are political.
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Now that goes back to their leadership, doesn't it?
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The pastors, if their pastors aren't addressing what they would consider, air-quote political
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issues, meaning abortion, the murder of the pre-born human beings and mothers' wombs.
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That is against the Ten Commandments, against the biblical WorldView, and it is murder.
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But yet they're going, well, no, no, that's just political.
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Just plan pairing it.
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Go ahead and share your thoughts on that because I think people are still, some people are
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still confused, even in the church, about what is moral or biblical compared to what is
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political.
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Yeah.
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And what you mentioned before the break, David, it reminded me of what I heard a pastor
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once say.
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I heard a pastor actually say that he is a conservative when it comes to religion, but a liberal
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when it comes to politics.
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And I say, no, you can't do that.
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You cannot divorce your Christian faith from any area of life.
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You can't serve two masters.
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The Bible clearly speaks about that.
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And what we see, though, is that there are a lot of people that really think, okay, politics
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is over there and Christian faith is over here.
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But it leads to things like when it comes to the issue of Israel, Israel's right to the
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land.
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We see all of these protests right now going on on college campuses.
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We see replacement theology in the church.
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And that is because of a biblical illiteracy as you touched on.
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And I lead a Bible study, David, and we had one lady that approached me one day after
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a Bible study.
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And she said she felt that we talk about politics too much.
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And she didn't understand it.
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And I gave her examples as to why we need to talk about it.
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Because we strive for a biblical worldview.
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We are to walk out our faith and that is what's called making disciples.
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And I gave her examples and when I mentioned that pastor, you know, who said, well, he can
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be a conservative in his religion, but a liberal in his politics.
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He reminded me of James 1.8.
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That's what is called a double-minded man who is unstable in all his ways.
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You don't want to follow that type of person.
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You mentioned leaders.
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But here are a few examples that I gave the lady who brought that to my attention.
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I said, well, Daniel was a governor.
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So he was what a politician.
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I said, Joseph, who was also a prophet.
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He was a governor in Egypt and God put him there.
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And God warned that those who divide his land in Joel chapter three, he said there would
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be judgment.
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And who is it that is making the decision to divide the land as politicians, John the Baptist.
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He was beheaded for challenging a politician.
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And Jesus hammered the religious and political leaders of Israel, which were the Sadducees
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and Pharisees telling them they hadn't neglected the way to your matters of the law.
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He called them blind guys who strained out a nap and swallow a camel.
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And when we look at the Pharisees and Sadducees, I think a lot of people don't think about
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it, but they were part of the Sanhedrin, which was like our present day Congress divided
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into Democrats and Republicans.
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So basically our present day Democrats and Republicans are like what was the Pharisees
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and Sadducees of that day.
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And then of course, Antichrist, he's going to lead a one-world government.
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And then finally, Jesus Christ is coming back to overthrow Antichrist.
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And Isaiah 9.6 says that the government will be upon his shoulders.
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But David, after I went through all of that, I explained to her even things like, well,
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when it comes to these mandates that we recently saw that affected whether Christians can gather
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at least according to what the government is saying.
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I said those impact us and even still she was not willing to accept it.
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And to think about it, David is because of idolatry.
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As you said, what we were doing was touching that idol, which was for her, her political
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party.
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She didn't like that.
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We were touching that idol.
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And a lot of people they want to say, okay, I'm going to believe in Christ, but yet
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I have this idol.
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You can't touch my idol.
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Well, I love that.
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I love that.
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And so many people think this way wrongly, but it's up to us to shit lovingly, respectfully
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lay out the truth, the biblical world.
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You confront them in a respectful way saying, I think you're putting something else above
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God's word and the teachings of Jesus Christ.
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I was going to say something about a pastor friend of mine in New Mexico.
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He actually preaches really hard, especially on the issue of life in the womb.
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And he had a conversation with a woman.
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This was several years ago, who said, well, I just have to believe that God would want
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the women to have a choice and control over their own bodies.
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See now she bought the talking points, choice, my body, my choice, reproductive freedom.
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What else they call it?
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Anyway, they have all these different words for abortion, but she bought it and she's
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in the church.
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And he said, well, wait a minute, don't you don't you care what the word of God teaches
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about life in the womb?
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And I'm paraphrasing, she said something like, well, I know that that might be what the
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Bible teaches, but I am going to stand on choice, for choice.
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In other words, for, and he said, well, you can, you can leave the church.
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You don't have to be, you don't have to come anymore.
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And I'm going, well, you're a pastor and you told a lady that, but I'm thinking, imagine
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if 10, 20% of pastors in America would do that, take a strong stance on the word of God.
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That's why people were killed, you know, in the early church and they would not, they
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would not conform, they would not compromise.
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And I think we've seen so much compromise, Brian, that's why there's a mushy middle.
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You were saying something about marriages being one of your passions, Israel, marriage,
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life in the womb.
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And I just want to redirect people again to remind them of what Jesus said, because some
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people say, well, marriage, that's Old Testament or whatever, Jesus affirmed and defined
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marriage in Mark 10 when he said in verse 7, for this reason, a man shall leave his father
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and mother and the two shall become one flesh.
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So they are no longer two, but one flesh, therefore what God has joined together, no one
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is to separate.
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And so he clearly defined and affirmed marriage between natural marriage, between one man
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and one woman.
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So there's so much that we could talk on each one of these issues.
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But again, Brian, I think one of the issues is we need stronger leadership.
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We need men of God that are going to preach on these things and not avoid them.
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What do you think about that?
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How do we get to that point?
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How do we encourage people to go to their pastors lovingly and respectfully, being a pastor
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is a hard job.
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It's hard.
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But they had to know that going in, right, their responsibility.
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Go ahead, share your thoughts.
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Yeah, I just have to say unfortunately, David, that there are many pastors who are afraid
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they are.
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And I just have to say it is, it is their cowards.
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And the Bible does speak to cowards who are not willing and they're a lot out there.
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They'll say, well, we just want to preach the gospel.
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We don't want to get into those issues.
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But I say, no, you can't avoid the things of the day, the issues of the day.
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You can't, you can't do that.
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You've mentioned abortion.
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How can ripping apart a baby in this mother's womb not be an issue that the church is supposed
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to talk about?
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How can you excuse it away and say that it's, it's just political?
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And David, I would not be sitting here today if my mother had taken the advice of a doctor
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who told her to abort me when I was in the womb.
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She said, I would come out retarded and deformed.
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And my mother's a believer price.
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She didn't listen to it.
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She talked with my, both my grandmother's about it and they said, well, you just trust
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in the Lord.
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Don't listen to what that doctor says and I'm here today, you know, spreading the gospel.
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And you know, David abortion is bad within any group but is decimating the black race
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especially.
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And I don't want it to happen to any race.
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I care about all people, but I go out to an abortion clinic.
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I take my son out there with me and we've tried to get other churches involved.
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There are a couple of groups that that meet us out there and we've tried to get other
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churches involved and they won't do it.
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But I share with people Margaret Sanger, she, she wanted to use abortion to eradicate
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to get rid of the black race.
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She even paid pastors a hundred dollars to push her, her agenda because she knew within
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the black community, they have a lot of respect for the pastor.
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But when you have pastors that are not willing to stand for the truth, then you're just
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leading the sheet right off a cliff is basically what's happening happening.
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And as you just look at so many things today and as I, you know, look at what happened
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in Israel in October, I peruse online, David numerous different churches and most pastors
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said nothing.
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When Rosie Wade was overturned, I mean, we were celebrating our ministry.
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We were posting things online and we thought, yes, everybody in the church is going to
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celebrate this and we look around and it's like crickets, you know, it's crickets.
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This is mind blowing.
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And I'm not a betting man.
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I don't gamble.
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But if I did, David, I would be willing to bet everything that I have that this coming
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Sunday, most churches in this nation are going to say nothing about these anti-Israel
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anti-Semitic protests that have been going on throughout our nation this week on college
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campuses.
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And again, because it's bad leadership and just one thing I'll say in finishing up, I
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heard a deep at a church once say that we cannot legislate morality, but the Bible
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tells us to speak for those who cannot speak for themselves.
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And for anyone that says we can't legislate morality, I say, okay, well, then you should
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be willing to allow anyone to just come up and assault you with no consequences because
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you say we can't legislate morality.
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It's just a cop out.
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It's an excuse.
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I love that you said that because let's be clear on that because a lot of people may
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be tuning in.
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Maybe they're younger believers or maybe they haven't heard these conversations before.
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Someone's morality will be legislated and what we've found is that's often the left
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and the progressive legislation that it's that wouldn't be according to the biblical
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worldview.
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That's a lot of the legislation that we're seeing past in Washington.
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So yes, someone, someone's legislation is going to affect young children and whether
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the, you know, hospitals can do mutilation surgeries on them.
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So yeah, legislation, it's either going to be something that would align more with the
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biblical worldview or something against the biblical worldview.
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So yeah, that's a very important point, Brian.
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Thank you.
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This man, I could have an hour or two conversation with you, brother.
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We are going to have you back and maybe you'll talk your wife into making an appearance.
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But I love your heart.
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I appreciate your passions.
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Thank you for your stand for Israel and you're right.
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A lot of churches will not mention it.
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And maybe they're seeking the approval of man rather than the approval of God.
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And that is not biblical either.
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Brian Thomas, thank you so much for all you do.
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I'm going to mention your websites again, blessings to Israel.com and then blessings to Israel
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ministry on Facebook.
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Look up his radio show, too, guys, over at the truth network.
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It's called discerning the times and he's got a YouTube channel too under the same name
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discerning the times.
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Brian, I'm so thankful that your mother chose life.
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Praise God.
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Thank you.
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We will do this again soon, Lord willing.
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Thank you.
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I want him to be with you.
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Glad to join you once again.
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Thank you.
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All right.
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Blessings, brother.
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Man, and that was one of those conversations again that goes by way too fast, but we will
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have Brian back so much more to come.
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Who we have on tomorrow, a former occultist and free Mason, and she was into witchcraft and
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all that stuff.
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Her name is Jack Merino Chen.
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We'll talk to her tomorrow and because Brian mentioned free masonry and this interesting,
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interesting times we're living in, but a lot of people are finding Christ and we have
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to keep putting it out there, right?
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The gospel recruiting more than the left is recruiting.
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We've got an uphill battle, but God bless you.
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And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.
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