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The Late Debate | 26 March · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's great to have your company on the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: I'm James Macpherson with the Nika to Georgio and filling
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  Speaker 2: in for Caleb Bond tonight. This is the wonderful Joe
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  Speaker 2: Hilda Brand, Welcome to the Late Tollor.
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  Speaker 3: Very big shoes to fill.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm going to try, you know, if I can
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  Speaker 4: be just half the man that Caleb my mother will be.
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  Speaker 5: This is a big moment for you, Joe, Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I'm just starting out.
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying to take all the opportunities I can get,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you know, just one step at.
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  Speaker 5: A time, trying to break into the industry.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I heard there's a lot of nice people
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  Speaker 4: in television and and I just want to meet them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see how our work experience, kid goes as
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  Speaker 2: The Night Unfolds is what's coming up tonight. Celebrations in
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  Speaker 2: the AFL as former Brisbane Lions player becomes the first
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  Speaker 2: openly gay past or present player that will lessen the
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  Speaker 2: win a game this year that I really want to know.
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  Speaker 2: As the Church of England and Thrones, the first ever
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  Speaker 2: female Archbishop of Cantor reports that British school children have
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  Speaker 2: been coerced into performing Islamic prayers at a Church of
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  Speaker 2: England primary school, and lefties lose their minds over the
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  Speaker 2: latest installment of Harry Potter. They're not upset about the
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  Speaker 2: new series. They're upset that JK Rowling, a transphobe, is
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  Speaker 2: going to make money from it. We'll get to all
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  Speaker 2: of that shortly, but first, a Monash University study is
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  Speaker 2: found up to half of Australian preschoolers have a mental
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  Speaker 2: health disorder.
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  Speaker 1: These are three to four year olds.
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  Speaker 2: According to the study reported today, forty eight percent of
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  Speaker 2: Australian preschoolers have a mental health disorder, forty three percent
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  Speaker 2: have anxiety, eleven percent have separation anxiety, two percent have
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  Speaker 2: a depressive disorder. And if you're a parent of a preschooler,
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  Speaker 2: now you have a mental health disorder. Having heard those statistics,
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  Speaker 2: the findings sparked calls for the government to institute routine
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  Speaker 2: mental health screenings of the nation's preschoolers. So, I guess
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  Speaker 2: I've got two questions Joe and Anka. First, what do
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  Speaker 2: you make of these stats? And second, what do you
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  Speaker 2: think about routine mental health assessments?
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  Speaker 1: For kids.
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  Speaker 5: Give me a break.
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  Speaker 6: The more you stay to kids that there's something wrong
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  Speaker 6: with them, they're going to grow up to be absolute
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  Speaker 6: more on, Seriously, I really despair for this next generation
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  Speaker 6: because they're growing up to be a bunch of snowflakes.
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  Speaker 6: They've got absolutely zero resilience whatsoever, and they wouldn't even
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  Speaker 6: last one day in the workforce. Seriously, what is a
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  Speaker 6: child doing being diagnosed with anxiety and.
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  Speaker 4: Depression at at.
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  Speaker 5: The age of five years old?
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  Speaker 6: No, but seriously, come on, they're five years old, right,
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  Speaker 6: and you know what this comes down to. I think
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  Speaker 6: it comes down to parenting, because again, if say the child,
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  Speaker 6: what the child's upset? I'm upset today, Mum, Oh, well
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  Speaker 6: what you've got diagh? You might have depression and anxiety.
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  Speaker 5: And this is part of the problem.
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  Speaker 6: Stop telling kids that there's something wrong with them, Stop
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  Speaker 6: telling kids that they can be one gender or another.
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  Speaker 6: Stop worrying them about the fake climate change armageddon. How
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  Speaker 6: about let kids be kids, let them go out and play.
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  Speaker 6: I just think it's this gentle parenting technique that is
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  Speaker 6: making this next generation grow up to be a bunch
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  Speaker 6: of absolute whimps.
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  Speaker 4: I think I'm not even sure if it's the parents,
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  Speaker 4: But I think it's more the sort of the sort
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  Speaker 4: of hyper vigilance and the hyper medicalization that is now
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  Speaker 4: built into the system. And I think you have educators who,
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  Speaker 4: with all the good will in the world, are so
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  Speaker 4: anxious about missing something, a lot of anxiety going around
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  Speaker 4: that they will be over They basically over compensate by
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  Speaker 4: searching for, you know, searching for problems that in days
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  Speaker 4: gone by we would just think of as totally normal. So,
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  Speaker 4: for example, if you're talking about separation anxiety, eleven percent,
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  Speaker 4: so that's more than one in ten kids. Any parent
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  Speaker 4: who's ever had a preschool that knows dropping them off
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  Speaker 4: on that first day, for those first few days, is
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  Speaker 4: often going to be fraught. They are going to get upset,
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  Speaker 4: They're going to want to come with you, They're not
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  Speaker 4: going to want to be left behind. Now, in the
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  Speaker 4: old days, you would just call that them getting used
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  Speaker 4: to preschool. These days, that would be called separation anxiety.
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  Speaker 4: And again, anyone who's ever had a kid at preschool
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  Speaker 4: will know if the slightest thing happens, if they get
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  Speaker 4: upset by something, or if god knows, God forbid, they
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  Speaker 4: fall over and you scrape their knee or whatever. You've
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  Speaker 4: got to sign all these forms to say that it's okay,
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  Speaker 4: blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 3: And so what happens is, and this is a really.
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  Speaker 4: Pet bugbear of minds, so I'm going to go on
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  Speaker 4: a slight raant, But what happens is you end up
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  Speaker 4: over medicalizing or over sort of diagnosing all these things
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  Speaker 4: that really are just kind of pretty much part of
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  Speaker 4: growing up, part of getting used to the world. And
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  Speaker 4: the problem is, of course that this then places huge
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  Speaker 4: burdens on an industry that therefore has to address all
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  Speaker 4: these issues. So again, we've found all these things because
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  Speaker 4: we're testing for them like we've never done before. The
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  Speaker 4: solution to having found them all because we're testing too much,
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  Speaker 4: is they say, is to now to do more testing.
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  Speaker 4: And in the meantime, you've got all these normal kids
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  Speaker 4: who all these normal kids who are being diagnos or
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  Speaker 4: stigmatized it with these you.
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  Speaker 2: Both you both know my kids. You've met my kids.
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  Speaker 2: They're twenty year old twins and they're brilliant. One of
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  Speaker 2: our boys, when he was in his preteens, he went
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  Speaker 2: through a really difficult period for a couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: And he was a handful of Tellia and anyway.
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  Speaker 2: So eventually we thought we need to get help, so
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  Speaker 2: we went and saw a professional and I was shocked
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  Speaker 2: at how quick they were, firstly to diagnose this, this,
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  Speaker 2: and this and that was one of them. And then
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  Speaker 2: I was even more shocked at the solution, get these pills.
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  Speaker 2: And the truth is, I think that sometimes pills are
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  Speaker 2: easier than parenting. And what we found is we just
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  Speaker 2: had to change the way we were parenting this kid
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  Speaker 2: because twin boys, but they were both very different and
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  Speaker 2: it was a lot of work, but he turned out great.
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  Speaker 2: But the advice we got was give him these pills.
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  Speaker 2: All the problems will be solved. And I think the
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  Speaker 2: temptation for parents. You know what it's like, Joe, you
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  Speaker 2: flat out. I mean, you're so busy with everything else,
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  Speaker 2: You've barely got time to hand you kid the phone
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  Speaker 2: so they can.
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  Speaker 3: Be entertained, TikTok, raise them exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just easier to get a diagnosis. You feel
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  Speaker 2: better about yourself because it's not me, it's a medical issue.
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  Speaker 1: Give them a pill.
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  Speaker 2: Now I don't have to take responsibility. That solves it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a did I get that.
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  Speaker 6: I get that, But I also think that parents have
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  Speaker 6: a responsibility to you know that the kids have to
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  Speaker 6: toughen up a little bit as well. And I think
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  Speaker 6: that it is down to parental responsibility. I'm saying to
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  Speaker 6: build resilient children, to give them the best start in
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  Speaker 6: life so that when something does go wrong, because as
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  Speaker 6: they become an adult, life changes, when they get responsibilities,
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  Speaker 6: when bad things happen, when people die, for example, they're
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  Speaker 6: going to have absolutely zero chance of actually surviving in
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  Speaker 6: life if they are weak from a young guy.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: That is the whole thing that I don't think this
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  Speaker 4: is a snowflake generation of anxious kid I do.
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 4: I think the generation that has been diagnosed over diagnosed
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  Speaker 4: like no generation has before. And I'll give it another
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  Speaker 4: example just to your point. And you're absolutely right, so
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  Speaker 4: that the problem is you've got all these people and
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  Speaker 4: again you've had experts raising this issue with you know,
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  Speaker 4: autism diagnosis for example, which are also through the roof
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  Speaker 4: and placing huge burdens on the ndis for example, and
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  Speaker 4: doctor is saying, look, once you start over diagnosing this
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  Speaker 4: to the point where the criteria becomes lower and lower
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  Speaker 4: and lower for a diagnosis, the diagnosis ends up being meaningless.
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  Speaker 4: But the other perverse thing in the case of an
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  Speaker 4: ADHD is sort of the new autism.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe.
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  Speaker 4: So I had friends, for example, where the kid just
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  Speaker 4: needed a bit of help at school because he wasn't
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  Speaker 4: you know, he was behind in some of his subjects
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  Speaker 4: or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Great kid, lovely kid.
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  Speaker 4: He's not mentally ill, you know, it's totally fine, but
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  Speaker 4: he just needed a bit of help. And the teacher
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  Speaker 4: basically said, well, you have to go and get a diagnosis,
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  Speaker 4: because in order to qualify for a bit of help,
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  Speaker 4: you actually need a bit of paper that says no,
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  Speaker 4: I've actually got this thing. So again, you're taking away
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  Speaker 4: something that would have normally just been a conversation between
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  Speaker 4: a parent and a teacher for a kid who just
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  Speaker 4: needed something.
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  Speaker 3: Now that kid has to be.
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  Speaker 4: Diagnosed with a mental disorder or whatever you want to
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  Speaker 4: call it, just to get the resources that he should
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  Speaker 4: have been able to get all along.
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  Speaker 6: Look, I don't deny that, but I remember interviewing a
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  Speaker 6: school principle a couple of years ago that said that
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  Speaker 6: this is the most troubled generation he's ever seen. They've
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  Speaker 6: all got something wrong with them. Now, where does that
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  Speaker 6: start in my view, it starts from home. It starts
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  Speaker 6: from their home life, and that is a big problem.
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  Speaker 6: So I take your point, and I do agree with
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  Speaker 6: you about the over diagnosis. I don't deny that, but
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  Speaker 6: I also think that parents play a really, really big
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  Speaker 6: responsibility in this hole.
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  Speaker 1: On that very quickly.
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  Speaker 2: This study did have some interesting findings. For instance, they
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  Speaker 2: talked about phobias and they found that a lot of
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  Speaker 2: kids are scared.
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  Speaker 1: Of the dark.
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  Speaker 2: Who would have guessed, well, I mean when other kids
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  Speaker 2: were scared of spiders and I've got to say, I'm
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  Speaker 2: still scared of spiders.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I know, maybe.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe that's it.
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  Speaker 6: But look, speaking of children and resilience, we've got to
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  Speaker 6: talk about a case over in the US which is
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  Speaker 6: going to have serious ramifications across the world. This was
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  Speaker 6: a landmark judgment in a social media case. Meta and
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  Speaker 6: YouTube have been found to be addictive to users. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: I'm sure you go on social media. I'm sure you
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  Speaker 6: can't stop scrolling at night, while showing no concern for
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  Speaker 6: their well being. Now, this case centered around a twenty
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  Speaker 6: year old woman who claimed her early use of social
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  Speaker 6: media addicted her to technology and exacerbated her mental health struggles.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 6: She said that she began using YouTube at the age
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  Speaker 6: of six and Instagram at nine. And she said that
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  Speaker 6: she told the jury that she was on social media
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  Speaker 6: all day long as a child.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 6: It took days of deliberations, but jurors ultimately found that
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  Speaker 6: the social media giants were indeed liable and they have
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  Speaker 6: been forced to pay this woman over four million dollars
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  Speaker 6: in damages outside of court. The decision was welcomed by
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  Speaker 6: victims of meta.
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  Speaker 5: Have a look, stop blaming the parents. It's on you.
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  Speaker 7: And this is what this is showing today and pre parents,
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  Speaker 7: we now know that they were manipulating our children for
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  Speaker 7: profits while we were watching and trying to keep our
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  Speaker 7: families safe.
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  Speaker 5: A few points on this.
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  Speaker 6: Firstly, I do not deny the impact that social media
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  Speaker 6: has had on young children. There've been studies that have
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  Speaker 6: done it. And also obviously cyberbullying, for example, is a massive,
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  Speaker 6: massive problem. I don't deny that, but I disagree with
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  Speaker 6: what that woman said, don't blame the parents, because again
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to blame the parents for this. This woman
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  Speaker 6: that won the damages, she said that she was on
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  Speaker 6: social media from the age of six.
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  Speaker 5: What on earth was she doing?
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  Speaker 6: One with a mobile phone and two with social media
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  Speaker 6: at the age of six. Is that not the responsibility
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  Speaker 6: of a parent to be saying no, honey, you are
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  Speaker 6: too young for this.
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  Speaker 5: So what was she doing there in the first place?
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  Speaker 6: And stop blaming others again, outsourcing for your mental health struggles.
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  Speaker 6: If you've got mental health struggles, people need to start
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  Speaker 6: taking responsibility for their own. I'm sorry, go and see
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  Speaker 6: a doctor, go for a walk, go help yourself, but
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  Speaker 6: don't blame others. And now this is going to have
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  Speaker 6: serious ratifications around the world, could put on more legal challenges.
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  Speaker 6: I do not deny that social media giants have a
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  Speaker 6: role to play. Do I think they are liable in
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  Speaker 6: exacerbating a person's mental health problems?
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  Speaker 7: No?
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  Speaker 2: I do so, so let me ask you this. Her
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  Speaker 2: complaint was not with the content on social media that
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  Speaker 2: that was not the issue. The issue was the model
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  Speaker 2: of social media. That is, it's designed, through positive reinforcement
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  Speaker 2: to get you addicted. So that was her complaint. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: do you think they bear responsibility for that or they
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  Speaker 2: just do it? Any normal corporation would do you want
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  Speaker 2: people to buy your product?
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  Speaker 5: It's a money making product, right, We.
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  Speaker 4: Don't let crack dealers hang out the front of school
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  Speaker 4: gates and say, oh, that's fine. You know, if kids
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  Speaker 4: are going to take the drugs, it's a parent's fault
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  Speaker 4: for not training them to be raising them to be
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  Speaker 4: more responsible. I mean, we don't let kids into bottle shops,
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  Speaker 4: we don't let them go and play the pokey's Like,
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  Speaker 4: there is so why.
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  Speaker 5: They're on social media at the age of six.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that is why we are, That's why.
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  Speaker 4: But whose responsibility is That is why this newspaper, this corporation,
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  Speaker 4: and the federal government has banned social media for those
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  Speaker 4: under the age of under the age of sixteen, and
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  Speaker 4: you still have people saying, oh, no, this band's terrible.
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  Speaker 4: It's a way of you know. And again, so there
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  Speaker 4: is always there always has to be a role for
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  Speaker 4: society to protect kids from things that we know are
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  Speaker 4: harmful to them. And this is a model that is
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  Speaker 4: deliberately addictive. As James said, it uses algorithms to try
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  Speaker 4: to trigger responses which reward more engagement with social media.
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  Speaker 4: So it's the same thing that pokey machines actually do
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  Speaker 4: themselves and hit all those little sweet spots in the
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  Speaker 4: brain and trigger all those hormones and those ecstatic releases,
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  Speaker 4: and that's what gets kids sucked into that.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got kids, how have you and your home?
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  Speaker 2: Because this is a big one, right, every kid wants
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  Speaker 2: to be on social media. All my friends are and
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  Speaker 2: this starts early. I mean she was on social media
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  Speaker 2: from the age of six.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, she was.
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  Speaker 2: Late to the party right at six. So how have
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  Speaker 2: you done it in yours? All?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 4: You shouldn't, you know, just don't let your kids have
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  Speaker 4: any devices. Don't really have kids have access to them.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't work anymore because the way that kids communicate
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  Speaker 4: with each other is that they communicate.
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  Speaker 3: On their iPads.
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  Speaker 4: Or their phones if they're a bit older, they're in
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  Speaker 4: WhatsApp groups, they're organizing things, they're organizing players. My son
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  Speaker 4: didn't get a phone until relatively late. All his friends
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  Speaker 4: had one before, and he was like really upset because
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  Speaker 4: they were all organizing to do things and he was
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  Speaker 4: being left out of that. So you can't just say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: don't let them have the phone. So you let them
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  Speaker 4: have the phone, and then you've got to make sure
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  Speaker 4: that they're not on social media. Now, none of my
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  Speaker 4: kids have social media accounts, obviously, but they can still
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  Speaker 4: get on YouTube, just via the web. You can't really
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  Speaker 4: blame the web. They're on accounts that you know, are
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  Speaker 4: linked to me to show that, you know, so that
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  Speaker 4: I've got, you know, super vision over what they're looking at.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a fifty year old man. You know, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know that.
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  Speaker 5: But you're taking responsibility, Joe, that's.
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  Speaker 4: Still getting But that's the point still and it is
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  Speaker 4: still the.
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  Speaker 6: Point is you, as a parent, are taking responsibility for that.
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  Speaker 6: And you're saying, no, you're not allowed to have a
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  Speaker 6: social but this come in.
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  Speaker 4: But this woman, I'm my kid because my six year
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  Speaker 4: old came in, stole my phone to so she could
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  Speaker 4: watch it, and of course I missed my alarm.
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  Speaker 3: So responsibility.
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  Speaker 6: But you are taking responsibility as right, but a lot
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  Speaker 6: of parents out there would not be taking the responsibility.
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  Speaker 6: And in this case, I mean, this woman has now
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  Speaker 6: been given millions of billions of dollars millions of millions
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  Speaker 6: because she has claimed that she became addicted. Where was
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  Speaker 6: where were her parents? That's what I would like to know.
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  Speaker 6: That that is my key question which I couldn't find
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  Speaker 6: in any of the articles.
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  Speaker 5: What happened when she was younger? What I would like
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  Speaker 5: to know.
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  Speaker 2: If You've got a six year old kid who claims
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  Speaker 2: she was on social media all day every day. That's
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  Speaker 2: a parenting. You're not a Mark Zuckerberg. Whichever way you
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: skin it. Let's go to the AFL. It's been a
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  Speaker 2: massive day for the AFL. This is the number one
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  Speaker 2: story on the Herald Sun website for most of the
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  Speaker 2: day when I was checking. The first ever AFL player
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  Speaker 2: past or present to come out as gay and so
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  Speaker 2: apparently this changes everything Brisbane Lions player Lee Riswick. The
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  Speaker 2: funny thing is, Joe, I am addicted to AFL. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not suing the AFL. I am a willing addict of
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  Speaker 2: AFL football.
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  Speaker 3: And I've read this article to Essendon peptides.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: To North Melbourne. Yeah, who probably should take pep tides.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe we'd win a game. But the point is I
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: read about this Brisbane Lions player who's come out as
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: gay and I've never heard of him in my life,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: and I follow it pretty closely. He played one game
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: back in two thousand and five. In that game, he
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: had four disposals for the entire match. He was later
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: delisted never played in the AFL again, but he's gone
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: on to Joy Radio and talked about how he is
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: gay and they have said congratulations. My own football club
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: North Melbourne posted on Twitter today our game is for everyone.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Congratulations Lee, Your courage will change lives.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: That's wonderful that gay people are playing AFL. AFL is
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: for everyone. I'm just not sure that that was a secret,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: and I'm not sure how someone who played one game
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: twenty years ago coming out as gay today is going
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: to change anyone's lives.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, I personally could not give a toss.
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: Let me tell you this about the personal status of
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: any AFL player. I just want my team to win, exactly,
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: and as a punter, you just support your team. You
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: actually don't care about them. This is what bothers me
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: the most about this. Like a couple of months ago,
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: there was a former West Coast Eagles player, his name
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: is Mitch Brown. He came out as bisexual. Now basically,
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: Mitch Brown went on it was like a to the
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: Bisexual Tour of Australia where he went on radios, he
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: went on on podcast everybody had to know that he
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: was bisexual, and then he went out and criticized the
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: AFL and certain AFL clubs for not recognizing the fact
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: that he was bise.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: A lot of clubs posted in support, but a few didn't,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: and he.
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: Got offended at their silence. He was upset by their silence.
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: But good to know. We've heard from Mitch Brown today.
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: He's very supportive of Lee and said this is what
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: bravery looks like. Look this, Lee, as you pointed out,
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: played one game for the AFL, and everyone's going, Lee, congratulate.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I've got to point out your hero.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: He could have been a three hundred game player and
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I would have the same view.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Who cares?
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: Who cares?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Played football?
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Yes, a NFL's big in Adelaide.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: He was apparently good local club football. Here's what I
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: want to know, Joe.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: So we already had a trans former player, Dean Laidley,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: former coach of North Melbourne, former West Coast Eagles player,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: great player, good coach too. He now identifies as Danny Lady.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: So we've got a former, transgendered former player, Mitch Brown,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: as you mentioned, bisexual. He's a former player. There's at
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: least four couples in the AFL. W it's the women's league.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: There's at least four couples that is, female players married
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: to or in relationships with other players. Now we've got
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: a gay former player. Can that be the end of it?
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Can we now just get on with football and not
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: over who's going.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: To be at to make sure and they'll be mapping
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: the AFL roster onto the Australian census to make sure
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: that it entirely correlates with the national average and any
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: sort of shortcomings. I mean, I feel like, you know,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: the representation in elite sports of you know, skinny forty
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: nine year olds with arthritis is probably a bit below
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: where it should be. So you know, I'm here happy
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: to be selected, but I think it's strange, isn't it?
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: This thing where you know, the whole principle of gay
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: rights when it started and rightly started, was that it
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: shouldn't matter what your sexual are is.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: You should be you know, treated like everyone that shouldn't
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: shouldn't matter.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: The same with when Martin Luther King famously said, you
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: know that someone should be judged by the content of
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: their character, not the color of their skin. And now
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: we're finding things like sexuality or race or whatever become
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: the defining characteristics of someone's own identity. When you know,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: and that's great, that's what you like, but really who cares?
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Although I guess having said that, I do have a
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: bit of an announcement to make tonight.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Oh here we go.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: So I've been struggling with this a lot, obviously because
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: it is something very personal and it's something I haven't
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: told many people, but for years now even my wife
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: doesn't know this, but for years now, I well, there's
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: no easy way to say it.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I am an AFL player.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Why think you identify.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: As you identify as an AFL player.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: I'm going to I'm not getting the support quite frankly,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: but I expected we see you, we were visible.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: But you also ident defy as a work experienced student.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: So it's a big knife.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: It's a really is it an incredible evening for Joe
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: Hildebrand tonight on the Late to Break.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: Look, let's go to the UK now and.
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: In interesting news, they have their first female Archbishop of Canterbury,
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: a woman by the name of Sarah Malali. Now, the
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: ceremony took place overnight. It will say it was quite
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: a multicultural affair, a little bit of everything. But here's
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: what we found a little bit odd about this. In
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: the ceremony she said that she still sees herself as
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: just Sarah, just Sarah, just Sarah.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Just just Sarah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: We hat just Sarah.
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: But look, I've got a couple of issues with this
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: new Archbishop of Canterbury. I would describe her really as woke.
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: And this is this is quite a big problem.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: A few things.
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: In her Christmas sermon last year, this was at St
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: Paul's Cathedral, she raised concerns about immigration. Now I want
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: to be raising concerns about immigration if I was living
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: over in the UK when they've got this open border
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: polo see where every man and their dogs seem to
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: get rights ahead of ordinary Brits. But she said, and
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: I quote, our national conversations about immigration continue to divide
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: us when our common humanity should unite us. Probably not
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: the right tone. I'm all for humanity, I'm all for
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: equal rights. But sorry, these people are coming in illegally
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: into the country.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: Probably don't involve yourself in that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: And secondly, she urged churches not to be anxious about
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: baptizing illegal migrants.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Not really a good start for just Sarah James.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: No, it's gonna be interesting to see how she goes
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: with regards to her I'm just Sarah, I get it.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Sounds humble, It sounds like the title of a children's book.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: It sounds like, you know, you're trying to be one
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: of the people. But it really annoys me that people
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: kind of downgrade institutions as if they're not important, and
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: we shouldn't have tradition and we shouldn't look up to
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: certain people. If you're the Archbishop of Canterbury, then don't
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: go around saying I'm just Sarah.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Don't be apologetic for it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: You've got a very important leadership role, especially at this
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: time in the history of the UK. Whether or not
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: she's up for it, Danika, now the question, but don't
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: be just Sarah. If you're going to be the leader,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: take on the role of leader. My concern is that
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: she should stop talking about social issues completely. You're the
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: leader of the church. The church has one message. Jesus
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: is the savior of the world. Make that your focus
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: and don't get distracted. Let the politicians deal with all
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: the other stuff, but make that message your message. Because
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the number of people attending church in the UK, in
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: the Church of England is declining, so deal with that.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: And that is incredibly important to the future of the UK.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I'll say this lastly, then I'll give you a shot, Joe. Please.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: You can tink around the edges with politics.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I forget which
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: famous Russian it was, but he said that the line
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: of good and evil runs not through institutions, it runs
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: through the human heart. And governments don't address hearts. You
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: can't legislate to change hearts. It's the church job to
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: change hearts, and God knows we need some heart to
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: change at the moment around our world. She's got an
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: important role. Don't apologize for it, embrace it and do
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: it well.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: But the role has already been utterly, utterly demeaned and
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: diminished already. And I'm not talking about the elevation of
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: a female to the role of Archbiship of Canbury. I'm
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: talking about the Reformation people. The Archbishop of Canterbury isn't
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: even the head of the Anglican Church. That's the king.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: And so we've had female heads of the church before.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: They were called Queen Elizabeth, Queen Victoria and Queen Elizabeth
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: the iond That's how stupid this dumb new religion is.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: It's only five hundred years old. Obviously, the wheels are
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: already falling off. And this is what happens when you're
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: just start making up the rules as you go along
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: and divorce from the one true Church and the only
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: throne that matters in terms of religion, and that is
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: the throne of Saint Peter at the Vatican in Rome.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: Preach, Preach, Joe, Preach, Joe.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I know you well, John, I knew that's exactly where
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: you would go with this topic.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: The Church of England do have some things to pay
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: attention to, because how a look at this story. School
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: children at a Church of England school. They're doing religious
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: education as you would expect if you're a parent, you
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: send your kids to the Church of England school, so
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: they're going to do some religious classes.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: That's fine.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: The question, though, Denique, is what religion would you be
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: expecting them to learn about in the Church of England school.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: It's not a question.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: Well, Christianity maybe that's probably what I would have assumed too.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: And yet parents have complained that at a Lincolnshire Church
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: of England school they were taught to engage in Islamic
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: prayers during the lesson which began following the relevant lesson
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: plan pupils were invited to demonstrate some of the movements
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: associated with Muslim prayer, although this was outside the lessons
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: intended approach, I should think so it was not an
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: act of worship.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: The school said.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: No prayers or religious words were spoken, and no child
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: was required to take part. No mats were used, and
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: pupils were not asked to face any particular direction. This
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: is a quote from the Board of Education in response
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: to a parent's complaint.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: No mates were used in making this correction.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: They were just being given a general kind of feel
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: for what it might be like to engage in Muslim prayers.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I can understand why parents were ropable about this, and
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: maybe the new Archbishop of Cantaby could make this her
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: first focus of attention.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Deal with this.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: Well, do you know how this was discovered a child?
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: So bear in mind these kids are just seven years old.
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: One of the fathers was putting his daughter to bed
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: and the daughter said, and I quote, Dad, we did
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: prayers to Allah yesterday, and that's how.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: He found out. Now can you imagine if your child
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: says to you, dad, we did prayers to Allah.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: You be going what the heck You're going to a
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: Christian school and this is what you're doing. I have
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: a few issues with that statement, though. Firstly, he goes
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: it was just an outside of the lesson approach. Sorry,
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: I mean, we have seven year old kids being taught
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: how to do a prayer. But it was just tinkering
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: around the edges of an outside classroom approach.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, seriously, and.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Second, diabolically poose.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: Diabolically a post.
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: Second, the spokesperson said that no child was required to
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: take part.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: They're seven years old. Of course they're going to take part.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: They've got to do it. They're going to They're kids,
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: for goodness sake. Look, I'm really worried about this.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: Actually, I think this is a really really concerning situation
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: and it's another example of how Islam is being shoved
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: down the throats of the West. Now, obviously Islam claims
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: to be that the religion of peace, and there are
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: certain parts of it, radical Islam that are a problem
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: to the world right now. But we are in trouble
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: in the West, which a lot of countries Australia, the
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: UK are built on Christian values, and this is going
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: on in a school now. I worry that sooner or later,
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: the West is not going to know itself, and already
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: we're heading in that direction. And it's very easy, isn't
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: it to start with kids because kids can be easily
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: indoctrinated and then what's next? So I despair for young kids.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: This is a big concern to me.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Do you know what I reckon?
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: I don't actually think it is a sinister sort of
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: takeover of Islam by Islam of the school system or whatever.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: I reckon.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: It is useful idiots who are dum white, woke liberal
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: do good as who are thinking, oh, we've got to
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: make this more inclusive blah blah, bah blah blah blah blah,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: and so they do it. They do it with the kids.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: They think they're just being so diverse and in inclusive
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: and multicultural. And of course you know who, this goes
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: straight to go straight to reform UK, which is on
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: an absolute war path and will probably if the polls
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: today are replicated a general election be the next government
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: of the United Kingdom. And so again you've got and
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: it's the same with you know these you know, I
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: can't swear on television, but these people like his but
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Teria and these ugly, nasty, obnoxious a holes that abused
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: the PM at the Kember Mosque the other day. These
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: weren't the guys. These are guys who run the mosque.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: They were the ones who invited the PM to be
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: there and the press service. They weren't the majority of attendees,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: but they're an extremist group who sort of took on
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: the mantle as the ugly face of Islam, if you like.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: And what does that do with drives voters straight into
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: the arms of Pauline Hanson and one nation which a
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: lot of people think is a great thing.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: And that's fine.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: But the people who think it's a great thing aren't
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: the stupid lefty lovies who are doing this sort of
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: stuff like they are at this school, or the radical
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: Islamists who are making absolute knob ends of themselves on
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: the national stage.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: But that's a result they're getting. That's how stupid they are.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: They are actually delivering the people they presumably hate the most,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: you know, the biggest shot at power in history.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: What's interesting to me on this subject is that, you know,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Richard Dawkins, who's made a career out of lampooning Christianity,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: has recently said he doesn't want Britain to lose its
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Christian traditions. Now he's not a Christian, but all of
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: a sudden, he's up to the fact if we want
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: our country to remain as it has been and to
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: be recognizable, then even though I don't go to church,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I actually want the church to do well.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Because we need it.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people are coming to
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: that conclusion belatedly, but they're starting to get there.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Don't forget.
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: There was also a mass prayer session in the middle
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: of Trafalda Square in London last week, So that just
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: just goes to my point earlier. Now, look, let's move
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: on ground control to major tom Oh what a lyric.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, we're talking about the space race. How exciting.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: And Donald Trump has got his eyes firmly set on
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: the Moon and he's hoping to beat China there. Now
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: he is backing a twenty billion dollar mission to build
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: a base on the surface of the Moon. NASA has
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: announcedis decided to abandon a proposal to have a station
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: hanging in lunar orbit and establish what's been called a
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: building surface. So Jared isaac Man, who's the chief of NASA,
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: has introduced plans on how the US plans to get there, but.
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: This time the goal there's not flags and footprints. This
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: time the goal is to stay. Just as there was
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: Mercury and Jeminy before Apollo, there will be an evolutionary
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: path to building humanity's first permanent surface outposts beyond Earth.
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, I find this really cool, to be honest,
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: a base on the Moon that's never happened before.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: I think it's awesome.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: So Donald Trump he wants a permanent lunar outpost. This
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: is by twenty thirty and a return to the Moon
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: by twenty twenty eight. But I'll tell you what, it's
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: quite high stakes the race of the Moon. You've got
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: the United States, you've got Russia, and you've got China,
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: all vying. I find it interesting that Donald Trump is
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: trying to be the first person to do all this.
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: But it's quite an industry, and I guess it's to
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: try to like exert dominance and technical superiority.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Well, you do it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: You do it for the same reason why you know,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: empires of the past raced around the world to kind
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: to get colonies because you know the other empire might
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: get there, might get there first. But I've got to say,
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: I've got a I've got an issue with the cost,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: like twenty billion bucks. We can't even build a metro
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: in New South Wales. There's no way they are going
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: to stick to that budget.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Anyway. Let's have a look at Oh wait.
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: Before we go, we've got to show you this incredible
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: picture that we put together tonight of Donald Trump and
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: the space race.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Have a look at that.
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: What do you reckon that the man in the moon
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: and in gold as well, shine and bright like the moon.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: The other great thing is that this will and this
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: is what I really want to say after the permanent
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: base of the room is all the protesters who rush
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: to the moon to protest against the colonization. But that'd
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: be great. I just want to know where are they
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: going to get their suits? Are they going to tear
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: down the statue?
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the way the world is going
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: A human what's the word? A habitation on the moon.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I think there'll be a lot of people who might say,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: you know what, I'm ready to leave and take up
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: residence on the moon.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Might go better.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Harry Potter has got a new series starting on at HBO.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Yes where they're starting and so it's received pretty sort
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: of mediocre reviews.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I'm no Harry Potter fan, but apparently those who are
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: say the new series is not that much different and
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: not that much improved on what we've already seen. But
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: av Club, that's a online magazine that deals with matters
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: of entertainment. They've taken issue not with the new series itself,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: but with the fact that the new series means that JK.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Rowling will be making money. Have listened to this review,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: The series is what it is only now billionaire Potter
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: author JK. Rowling, who has spent the last decade using
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: her fortune and influence to discriminate against trans people, stands
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: to become even wealthier and more influential thanks to the show.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: There isn't that much new here in the show, well,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: aside from the decade of increasingly alarming retric from Potter's creator,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: who's been cooking her brain on X at such an
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: alarming rate that being a turf is sort of her
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: whole personality. Now, OK, yeah, three a half starts. That's
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: actually yeah, is Harry Potter. Is Harry Potter really about
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: the author or is it about the art itself? Or
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: we're now going to judge all art based on our
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: political views of the author.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, we should actually be also thinking about
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: how incredible JK.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: Rowling is. I mean, aside from.
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: Her views, I think that she's absolutely brilliant. But she
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: also wrote this story when she was flat broken. This
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: is a real rags to riches story, and now the
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: left have turned on her. Why because she says that
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: she talked about women like a very very simple, simple,
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: simple fact.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: But also this, this.
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: Show has been ridiculed though for going woke. Like in
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: the original Harry Potter series Snape, one of the key
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: characters is white, but in this he's now black. It's
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: with a black actor, so that, you know, another woke remake.
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: But I just think that the fact that this is
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: what the left have a problem with, give me a break.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: How's how's this for a hot take?
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: This is the same the same class of sort of
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: left wing academic elites who actually invented postmodernism, which held
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: according to Roland Bart's The Death of the Author, which
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: I'm sure we've all read, that in fact, who wrote
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: a work is irrelevant because all that matters is.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: The audience's response to the work itself.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: So the context of who wrote it or what they
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: were trying to say is completely relevant. But now suddenly
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: when they don't like who wrote something, then suddenly that's
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: all that matters. I think the real takeout message here
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: is the maturing of the American cultural palate, because, of course,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: when Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone was released as
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: a movie in America, they had to call it Harry
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone because the Americans didn't know
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: what a philosopher was. Later appears that they're finally caught
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: up and they could actually release the book as a
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: TV series under the name that it actually was, which
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: isn't the name of the movie which at previously.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Well, they go The Boy who Leaves, The Boy Who Leaves.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: As I say in the.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: Fold, I just want to before we go to a break,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: I think we should have saved the most important to
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: we have us, as we often do on the show,
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: I have to say, and that is that thirty six
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: thousand brave souls, and I'm proud to say as a
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: patriotic Australian Australian souls have signed a petition calling for
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: Harry and Meghan's tour of Australia to be deprived of
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: all public funding. Now, firstly, I didn't know they were coming,
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: but that's just awesome because now I can get upset
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: about that as well. And secondly, a spokesperson for the
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: Duke and Duchess has said, and this is where I
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: don't think they're quite picking up what we're putting down,
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: said quote, it's a moot point. The trip is being
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: funded privately, so I'm not sure what this position hoops
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: to achieve.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: The spokesperson said, we don't care.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: We don't care if it's if it's relevant, if it's
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: actually going to have any material.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: This is just a petition to show that we.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: All think just a couple of wankers, just the worst
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: people in the world. Like we didn't even know whether
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: there was public funding or not.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: We didn't even know you were coming. We just thought
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: I just won't make the point.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: That has already bought tickets to here.
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: Men, I cannot wait for the mister and Missus Grifter
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: to arrive down Under for the latest installment of Grifter's
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: on Tour.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: Why did they need to release a statement?
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Just shut up, You've got to go to a break.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: When we come back We'll look at what's making headlines tomorrow,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: including while the government dancers around the fuel crisis, looks
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: like a food crisis is looming.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: That's coming up next. Welcome back to the program.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at what's making headlines tomorrow, so
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: you get it all here first, Aneka, you've got the Australia.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: I do headline their nation comes a.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Cropper Australia I did there.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: But that was very good.
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: Australian farmers are warning the nation is racing towards catastrophe
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: due to dwindling fertilizer supplies and no immediate federal government
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: rescue plan, raising the prospect of million of multimillion dollar
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: crop losses and rising food prices and shortages.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: As grain growers raise concerns.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: Went to crop yields are at risk and half the
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: nation's vegetable growers reported their fertilizer would run out within
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: three weeks. The Albanezy government has been accused of promising
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: nothing concrete to avert a crisis.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: Look, this is a.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: Big concern because if grain growers are feeling it, this
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: is going to have a massive impact on.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: Supply of food.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: Obviously huge impact on regional communities and there will be
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: flow on effects for the national economy. And once again,
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: it is absolutely bamboozling that there was no plan or
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: no foresight from labor in the event that something like
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: this could have happened. And it's almost like, to me,
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: it feels like the COVID days are coming.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: It's incredible.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: It's only been three weeks, right, it seems like things
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: are happening at such a rapid rate. Every day you
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: open the paper, you look at the new headline, and
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: you see sort of the cascading consequences of what's happened
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: in the Middle East. This starts to put the fuel
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: crisis in a bit of perspective, because it's one thing
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: to talk about fuel. Once you start talking about food,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: you realize this thing affects absolutely every part of our economy.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: And you think there's panic buying about fuel. If people
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: start to worry there's not going to be food on
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: the shelves, then we'll see panic.
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: Well, they're saying that supermarkets could soon be empty, like
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: shelves could be empty in the next couple of weeks.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: I was in such a good mood before I came
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: and did this segment. What are you doing way fine.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Trump's starting on the moon.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: You've got social tweets, He's winning. It's fine. Ever is
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: the winning is winning that he's ever won in his life?
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: On its needs? The regeames on its knees.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: You want it? Well, that's right. That's what an IDF told.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Idea of Official told very good friend Cameron.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Stuart and Oz. The problem is, though, and this is
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: the thing.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: I am all for the war, more for the campaign,
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: but how do you force a regime that believes in
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: the apocalypse, Yeah, from into any sort of compromise, so
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: you know, do this orvill end world?
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, believe in the apocalypse. They're going quite well, that's right.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: Also on the front page of the OS tomorrow isis
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: Rocketmakers released from jail. Poser's risk a terrorist to research
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: missiles for Islamic State and believes he was incarcerated in
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: a system that punishes Muslims for what they believe. Will
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: be released from prison on Friday, despite only participating in
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: prison deradicalization programs in the belief they would reduce his sentence,
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: has seems A Harb was arrested in young in twenty
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: seventeen and jailed for nine years for designing guided missiles
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: and laser warning devices for Islamic state. Under the conditions
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: of his release, he's been banned from contacting notorious Islamic
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: preacher Wisa Haddad, a radical cleric once followed by alleged
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: bond I shooter Nevin Acroma.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: I might run out of herd, but at least national
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: security is as tired as ever.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: I mean, if they're so worried about this bloke, then
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: you know, why is he being released, If he poses
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: a risk in this climate, why is he being released
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: from jail?
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Based on those quotes, he certainly doesn't sound like he's
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: reformed his views. Mind you, when you have those sorts
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: of views, they're not views. It's a worldview oppressed. You
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: don't reform those views oppressed.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: It's worry.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the front page of the Tasmanian Mercury
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: fuel price cap reads the headline. The state government has
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: introduced urgent legislation, showed stud It sounds like antheolberanzied as
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: strong and inspired leadership from their urgent legislation so it
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: can better deal with the effects of fuel costs, including
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: here's the point, temporary price caps.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: So this is well, Tasmania. The going are going on
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: their own.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: And I got to say, I think a lot of
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: people would be pleased to hear about some price caps
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: because every time you drive past the fuel station now
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: the price of fuel is going up. We'll wait and
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: see what other states do, but there you go, Tasmania
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: taking the lead on this.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Or will it be?
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Because the other thing is has been not actually capping
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: the price of the fuel for people, but actually tapping
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: how much people can spend so you're still paying top dollar.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: And I was driving here tonight three bucks for Super
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: ninety eight. It's got a three in front of it.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Three dollars plus for the good stuff. So whether or
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: not there's talk about maybe a forty dollars cap for
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: people filling up now, that.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Would don't you drive around the block and fill up again?
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: That would that would get you?
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe I suppose, but I would discourage it at
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: least I suppose, And and but that would get you what.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Quarter of a tank these days?
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: That anyway, onto the Mighty Daily Telegraph, and we touched
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: on this landmark case earlier in the show. But they
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: have got a message from the lawyer at the heart of.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: It get the ban back together.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: See, but that's a good one. Good thousands of kids
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: join apps and still no fines for tech giants. Let
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: them be kids is, of course the campaign that started
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: the social media ban in the first place, the world first,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: something that Australia has done that everyone is now looking
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: to follow suit. Anyway, That's enough patting myself on the
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: back because it wasn't even my idea. Australia's teenage social
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: media ban risks failing unless the federal government muscles up
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: and imposes hefty fines on non compliant tech giants. The
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: lawyer who won a victory against Meta in a global
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: landmark case has warned.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: There's thousands of ouzzie kids flat the four month old law,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: including mine.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Pressure is mounting on missing in action Communication Minister Anika
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: Wells right, come on, I thought she was behind you know,
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Come on, guys to find tech companies failing to protect
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: our kids. Despite under sixteen has been banned from platforms
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: including TikTok, Instagram, Snapchat, YouTube, Facebook, Twitch, x, read.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: It, kick and threads.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: A leading child safety I think there's a lot of
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: them in there, A leading child safety advocate. So there
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: has been no change to access for many children. So
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: obviously they have got to smash that up. But I'm
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: sure Ankle will tow it up the Minister, she'll go.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: And come in swinging.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: Well she's not on holidays then.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: Was that a telecommunications conferences spoke out and she was
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: very you know, pugnacious.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Well, Si, if there's any follow through with what they've promised.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: The Canberra Times have well it's a bit of a
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: shameless front page really. They basically have written a letter
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: begging the Prime Minister to give funding to the act
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Government so that the Canberra Football Stadium can be restored
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: and renovated. And basically they're pitch an open letter to
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: the Prime to save our stadium SOS is really just
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: a pleading to the Prime Minister saying, you're in Canberra,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: this is the Canberra Stadium.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Don't you care about us? Do you not love us?
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Some money?
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Please give us some money.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: So whether or not that has the desired effect, we'll see,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: but there you go. The Canberra Times tomorrow is basically
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: a personal letter to the PM.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: It's the first time the Canbra Times is actually acting
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: like a tabloid and doing actual crusading journalism.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: That tabloids.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: I meant to do because remember every time we'd be
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: reading the Canberra Times in the past, it'll be like
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: a bureaucrat left work at warfare. Very true PM last
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Wednesday in and otherwise.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: It is typically written for public servants. So it's about football.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: So exactly right, pencil.
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: Before we go to a break, we'll look at the
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: Herald's son. Our police up beat is the headline. Rank
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: and file police have delivered a savage rebuke to the
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: Allen government over the worsening resourcing crisis on the front line.
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: A secret survey of more than two thousand police This
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: Union members has also revealed growing concerns about the government's
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: management of criminal justice policy.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: Who would have thought? And youth crime? Who would have thought?
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: With a staggering eighty two percent of police saying tackling
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: youth crime is a key drain on their time. Well,
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: I mean you didn't need to serve. I had to
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: tell you that, do you though? Just enter Allen will
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: tell you that Melbourne is safe.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course it is all right.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: When you go to a break, you think fuel is expensive,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: wait until after the break when we tell you how easter.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Eggs are going up in costs. That's next.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, there was a global Technology summit held in Washington yesterday.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: It was hosted by Milania Trump, and I want to
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: show you the way she walked into the summit as
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: it began with the first US made humanoid.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Was the robot.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: I got to tell you, I'm thinking, why is she
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: walking with Joe Biden?
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I was a humanoid? There you go, waiting for the
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: robot to.
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: Malfunction like that, I say, work at gals strutting down
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: that red carpet.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: Melania is such a babe.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: She's such a professional whole thing.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: She started a little too fast and she actually adjusts
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: her stride to be in time.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: A quick A professional total.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Should we be worried about this robot thing coming because
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: every movie I've seen about humanoid robots things don't end
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: well for the actual humans.
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: Well, I got a couple of weeks ago, Remember we
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: were talking about it a few weeks ago when the
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: robots were attacking old women in the streets.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: So they're not all bad, but you know, I'm saying
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: there could be some downsides as well.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Now I'm joking.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: Obviously, I do not condone robots attacking old women in
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: the streets. Nor do I condone linked bunnies now hitting.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: The twenty dollars price. Believe it or not, that is
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: what happened.
• 46:56
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: I can't get my head around this. I know I'm
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: only a mere art student. I do not have an
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: economics degree. But even though cocoa prices have crashed, Easter
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: egg chocolate prices have gone through the roof. We've got
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: the twenty dollars limp bunnies if you're a bit sort
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: of fancy.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: But even if you just go for the humble.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: Cadbury hollow egg, they have actually the prices of them
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: have doubled per gram since two Easters ago. But they
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: might not have actually doubled per product because at the
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: same time, there's a bit of and I think we
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: all know this economic term shrink flation going out ah
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: something that happens when men go swimming in cold water,
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: and also when companies try to disguise the fact that
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: they're jacking up prices by keeping prices the same or
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: not as high as they otherwise would be, but reducing
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: the size of their product.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: So what you sesus died for this.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: What you're saying is if my kids get eggs and
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: it's a big if with the price will be smaller, yes.
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: Right, twenty dollars though, what a rawt. But that's just ridiculous. Seriously,
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: come on, is it going to get worse now though?
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: With the fuel and food shortagees a lot next week
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: it'll be forty dollars on Easter Sunday.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: You've got to leave it to the last minute.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: And when they think, holy crap, do you want to get.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: Rid of the egg well, let's let's go over to
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: New York now, because when Mayor Zora and Mam Dami
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: isn't platforming the anti Israel agenda, he's taking part in
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: muck bang videos online.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: What is muck bang? It's when people sit there and.
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: Eat copious amounts of food on on a YouTube or
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: a web live stream.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: Lord knows why. But here's the irony in this.
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: He's been seen munching on taco Bell and Duncan to
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: announce a one point five million dollars settlement against against
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: franchises of fast food giants, have a look.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: I think, okay, now this is important.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I'm very curious about the mayor.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: This is a hard ball for.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: The war sour cream or no sour.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Cream as a life question.
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: As a life questions, and as a taco boat order question,
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: always sour cream.
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: Enthralling. Another episode of Zora and Ma'am Darmi. What does
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: he actually do?
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Oh he creates cringe videos, Tanika, that's what he does.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: Want to do a much bang new time.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I've heard socialist when they just killed people.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: All right, that's all we've got time for tonight. Stick
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: around Coming up is to read a penalty show. Good
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: night and well done, Joe, Thank you very much.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: I think I'm getting better