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UFC 324 recap: Was Justin Gaethje beating Paddy Pimblett an early candidate for FIGHT OF THE YEAR? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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We call this Jabba Rules. Yeah, we're going to.
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We're going to go on a little bit of obviously it's going to
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be Nebraska based in this Java rules segment.
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But what I want to know is I understand that they sign deals
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with different networks, but we've seen in games before with
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with football wise and did anybody expect Nebraska to be in
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this situation? No, they did not.
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But we've seen six day holds for football games to see what
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network can have them on. So now we have a top five match
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up in the Big 10, three verse 5 in Michigan and Nebraska
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tomorrow and it's on Peacock. What the hell are we doing?
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Like you, I understand you can't have a six day hold for this
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because football is obviously different.
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But how can't you change that to be, it's a 6:00 PM Peacock game.
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So when you have a top five matchup in all of basketball,
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why, why can't you switch the times?
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Why can't you switch the network?
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I understand contracts and I get that, but you can't be like,
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well, we'll give you another Peacock game, but why wouldn't
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ESPN will pick up as we're watching Arizona versus BYU
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right now. So one versus 13, you got a
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three, but you got a top five matchup and it's on Peacock.
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So now you're making everybody else buy another streaming
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service where it could be posted live on ESPN or whatever network
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you want to choose. And I don't know all the
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insurance and outs of their contracts, but you have a top
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five matchup in in a conference. Why is it not at prime time of
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what this is? It just, it blows my mind that
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they can't figure that out from that, even though you didn't
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expect it. But it's here.
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It's happening. They're the winningest team in
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all of college basketball right now.
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They're 24. They won their last 24.
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Never, never in my wildest dreams would I ever thought I'd
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be talking Nebraska basketball more than Nebraska football.
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But they haven't switched. I I don't know why they can't
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make the adjustment for basketball when you have a
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Cinderella, be able to switch the networks like you do for all
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other sports. And we need to figure out those
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rules because it don't make no damn sense to me.
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By the way, you better TuneIn because it it's going to we're
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we're 10 1/2 dogs right now, but it it's going to be an
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interesting game. Michigan's very good, though, so
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you can't take it. Lightly.
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No, you ain't lying and one of our best players is out.
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So. And I can, I can speak on that
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because it's one of the kids Carter grew up with.
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And to have a kid that can get downhill and do what he does and
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spread the floor, yeah, it's going to suck.
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win, but we're definitely going to cover.
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You've been on our show before. How are you my friend?
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What's up fellas? How you doing?
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I'm doing great. Good to see you all again.
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And yeah, it was a it was an awesome card.
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It was a great main event. It was it was a great main
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event. I don't know about awesome card.
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And well, I would say that it definitely helps that the main
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event was. Great.
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Oh, the main event was spectacular.
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And we're going. To get into the main event,
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Absolute cinema. Oh is the best and I I don't
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care what everybody is saying after the fact, but I'll get
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into that. But the reason why I was upset
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is because Kayla Harrison had the withdraw off this card.
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It was supposed to be Amanda Nunez and Kayla Harrison as the
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Co main event. It was Sugar Shane O'Malley who
7:01
might might have another fight or two left in him this year.
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He wants to retire after these two fights.
7:06
He thinks it's Peter Yon, but he has to first wait his turn
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because Peter Yon has another, another fight with, you know who
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I'm talking about, Mr. Long Island native himself, who's
7:18
been living here on Long Island. So that's the that's the whole
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thing. Merab is going to get a chance
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to defend or get a chance to win back his belt.
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And Jan is going to be training. And that might be at the White
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House moving forward in June or July.
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When that that card comes around, it could be Merab and
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the one we call Yon Peter Yon So but yeah, like you said, the
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card was not great. It wasn't something Sugar was
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the the Co main event because he's a very big fan favorite.
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He he won the fight really in the third round.
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He was going to lose that fight if he didn't come out really,
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really strong the way he did and as and as champion, as a
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champion he's been before. You got to go out there with
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guns blazing and he did. And he threw enough punches and
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he threw enough to to to make his opponent bleed enough where
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it showed the obvious. I think the UFC to me, I thought
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sugar, sugar, Shane O'Malley lost the fight.
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I thought he was down to nothing going into the third round.
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But he is a fan favorite. If you lose that fight, like
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just like Conor McGregor did against Nate Diaz, maybe Conor
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McGregor doesn't have another second-half of his career where
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he fights Poirier or any of that.
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So they had to, they had to give the fight to him.
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O'Malley did come out strong in the third round, but where was
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he in the first round? Where was he in the second
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round? And that's my take on that.
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How about you? Yeah, I think I think you're
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right about the error. I think he kind of came out a
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little timid. He was trying to feel out Song
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You Dong in the first round. They didn't throw either of him
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a lot of volume. I think what won and what won
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the round for O'Malley was he just had a couple more strikes
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in the fight. But again, it was a very close
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round. Round two, ya ya dog got the
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takedown and kind of controlled O'Malley there.
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And then he came out strong in that third round.
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I think that's what the judges saw.
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I believe it was 2928 unanimous decision.
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So that third round really was the telling point for him.
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So again, I'm sure the UFC would love to do Piotr Yan O'Malley
9:16
too for a rematch at the White House is, I mean, again, if who
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knows, they're saying potentially 5 or 6 some title
9:22
fights. I'm not sure if that's realistic
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or what they're shooting for, but I'm sure they'd love to do
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that rematch. You know, of course, there is
9:29
still more Rob out there depending on if he wants an
9:31
immediate fight or if he wants to take some more time to rest
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because again, the man did fight four times last year, which
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again, which is why he was fighter of the year.
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He was amazing. So that'll be interesting to
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see. But yeah, for me, man, I was, I
9:43
was really excited. I was really happy that Gaichi
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won. He's my favorite fighter of all
9:47
time, a big Justin Gaichi fan and I thought coming into this
9:50
fight, a lot of the books and a lot of people were being really
9:53
disrespectful to Gaichi. I thought Patty should have been
9:56
the favorite, but I thought that +200 for Gaichi is that was a
10:00
big underdog. I was like wow, really 2 to one
10:03
like he's the underdog. I was really shocked and I was
10:05
like, look, I get it. Patty's young, he's hungry, he's
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got better jiu jitsu, better grappling, and Gaichi really
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only had the the power advantage in the striking, but he showed
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just like, and you know, for the lightweight division especially,
10:18
there's level to this son and his Dustin Poirier and Armin
10:21
Siruki. And we're all calling out Patty
10:23
after the fight and Justin was saying he's disrespect the
10:26
legends, and the legends are going to come and they're going
10:28
to take you down. You know, what makes that fight
10:31
so amazing is the fact that Pat, the way Patty came out, the way
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the fans got him riled up and he came out dancing.
10:37
It was something of a storybook show.
10:41
And and that's what you want. It's a circus.
10:43
And Patty Piplett, Patty the Batty went out there.
10:46
He showed people why he's a fan favorite, why they love him so
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very much. I love Patty Bibblet and I love.
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Yeah, he absolutely did. And he was dancing.
10:56
He looked like he had all the energy.
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He didn't look like he was scared.
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But obviously he's never been in the ring with the highlight.
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He's never been in a ring with a guy that has the the the
11:04
punching power of his ability that he's going to throw
11:07
haymakers and even Gagey after the fight when he was speaking
11:11
and he was telling you what he said, that wasn't the game plan.
11:13
That was not my game plan to come out there and try to knock
11:16
his head off, but that's what happened.
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So and and he did poke Patty in the eye in the first round,
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which definitely caused problems in the fight.
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And then he did it again in the third round, which the referees
11:27
did not see, which affected Patty and eventually got him on
11:30
the ground and he was pulverizing him on the ground.
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Gagee is a guy to me that is so very dangerous because his
11:38
punching power. Every guy, every guy that's been
11:40
in the ring with this guy or in the Octagon with this guy has
11:42
said he is the hardest puncher he's ever they've ever been in
11:45
the Octagon with. He throws these haymakers, They
11:47
don't even look that bad when he throws them, but he has so much
11:51
punching power behind it. And if you look at Patty and his
11:54
size when he got into the ring, and I'm not talking about when
11:56
they did the weigh INS, within 24 hours, that guy put it at
12:00
least £25 on him. It's amazing how big he looked
12:04
when he got into the ring with Justin Gagey.
12:06
He was twice the size of Gagey and Gage.
12:08
And I'll tell you what Patty did wrong in this fight.
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He didn't take Gagey down. He stood with Gagey and did what
12:13
Gagey wanted him to do, stand with him and take a beating.
12:16
And that's what Gagey loves to do.
12:18
You want to be Justin Gagey, you taken to the ground.
12:20
He's a great wrestler, but Patty has the ability to do those
12:23
things. He's great grappler, great
12:25
wrestler too. And his strength, I'm not, I'm
12:28
not saying that Patty can't fight and stand up and, and
12:30
knock people out. He's got that ability.
12:32
But that's what happened. And as the rounds moved in,
12:35
Patty looked tired. Because Gage is the type of guy
12:38
that wears people out. He gets you to chase after him
12:41
and then he chases after you. And if, if he's chasing after
12:44
you and he gets you against that fence, that's when you're in the
12:47
most trouble. And that's what happened to
12:48
Patty. As soon as he got caught behind
12:50
the fence or against the fence, Gagey went out, went to work and
12:54
he he pulverized him. The one thing that Patty did
12:57
well in the fight was stroke kicks.
12:59
He mutilated his legs early in the rounds, especially early in
13:04
the fight. Gagey thought twice a moving
13:06
inside with him. Gagey was not checking him at
13:09
any point of the fight and it looked like Patty was going to
13:13
use that as his advantage. But guess what?
13:15
Patty stopped doing that in the later rounds and that gave Gagey
13:18
the confidence to move inside, get those punches, throw those
13:22
haymakers, and then he caught him a couple times.
13:24
Patty fell Fatty fell three times in a fight and every
13:28
single time you saw when Patty was trying to get up and Gagey
13:31
was on top of him every time Gagey was laying on him, he was
13:35
throwing absolute bangers at him.
13:37
He inside outside on the side of his face and it it showed Look
13:42
at Patty's face after the fight. Gagey had not one of not really
13:45
no scratches on his fight in this fight and and and Patty
13:49
Pimblan. I've never seen Patty Pimblan
13:50
get pulverized like this in his career.
13:53
This guy to. Me.
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He's never bled that much in the.
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Never, never. I've never seen this before and
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and I love Patty and Patty's going to get another chance.
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And I agree with him. You know, if he's going to lose
14:04
to somebody, you lose against the highlight.
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He looked up to him. He grew up a big fan of Gagey.
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Everybody looks up to get Justin Gagey.
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I look up at Justin Gagey. Never got a chance to interview
14:14
him. I interviewed Poirier, I've
14:16
interviewed all these different guys, but I never got a chance
14:18
to interview Gage. And hopefully one day we do.
14:21
But Gagey is an interesting dude because even after the fight
14:25
gave, you didn't know how to answer the question.
14:27
And I don't know if anybody look after he walked out and he went
14:30
to the dressing room, they were giving him food and he he was
14:34
like, I haven't eaten for 24 hours.
14:36
Could you imagine going into an Octagon with an empty stomach?
14:40
This guy did not eat that night after the weigh insurance.
14:43
He went into the fight with an empty stomach.
14:46
That says a lot about who he is and what he is about his
14:49
training and what he believes in his style of, you know, going,
14:52
you know, being a fighter that he is.
14:54
He's 38 years old. I don't care what anybody says.
14:57
Ilya could say whatever he wants.
14:58
Everybody can say what he wants about Pimblet.
15:01
Pimblet is is a great fighter. Patty is.
15:04
There is no reason why anybody should attack this guy.
15:07
He's a salesman. That's what he's doing.
15:09
He's selling the UFC. You want those guys in the ring.
15:11
You want those guys dancing to the fans.
15:14
Before he even came out to his music, fans were going crazy
15:17
crazy for him. And that's what you want to see
15:20
2 fan favorites go one-on-one with one another and give you
15:23
one of the best fights I've ever seen.
15:25
I'm going to tell you, I've watched the mixed martial arts
15:27
my whole life. I've been a part of mixed
15:29
martial arts. I've been fighting in mixed
15:31
martial arts, in boxing and in in combat sports.
15:34
I have never seen two guys go at it.
15:36
Patty could have went down. Patty could have been knocked
15:38
out. He kept getting up and asking
15:40
for more. That's all you ask from a
15:42
fighter. It shows you how tough he is and
15:44
how big of a, a heart, how big of a heart he has.
15:46
It was a wonderful fight. I believe that was fighting here
15:49
and the moral beyond fight was a great fight.
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But I, I'm sorry, this was the best fight so far of the year.
15:55
And we're in, we're in January still and we're saying this is
15:58
the best fight of the year. It's amazing.
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If you watch Yaichi walk out and did you read his lips, he goes,
16:05
I love this. When he walked out, he goes, I
16:10
love this. And for me as as somebody that
16:13
feeds off energy, he knew what he was doing.
16:16
This ain't nothing new to him. But he walked out and like for
16:21
that recognition because this is the strongest thing we have
16:24
right here. And that's what you just said.
16:27
That wasn't his game plan originally and how he changed
16:31
because he knew he was going to be in a battle.
16:35
He knew what it was. I, I will tip my hat to Patty
16:40
because I didn't think he would take it as well as he did.
16:43
I thought early on the way that he was attacking his legs in
16:47
lower half just like, OK, then now you take him down and you go
16:50
your jiu jitsu, you go your route because you're afraid of
16:53
the punches. But he was like, I think they
16:56
both switched it up and it's like, well, now we're in a
16:59
battle. I think I also think that when
17:01
you watch the fight, Gagey Gagey kind of pushed Patty to fight
17:06
his fight. That's the just match of
17:08
fighting you know better than anybody.
17:10
It's like you you push him in ways where you know you're
17:13
better and he did it. But the way the fight ended up
17:18
going was great for us as viewers because you want, you
17:24
wanted to see that. You didn't want to see him.
17:26
You didn't want to. You didn't hear any boos.
17:28
You didn't hear any boos. And we've seen that in plenty of
17:32
fights where it's like, all right, this is going, as we've
17:35
seen with all of Khabib's camp, like they wrestle and beat you.
17:39
That's what they do. They wrestle you.
17:41
And it's kind of boring sometimes.
17:43
But that fight was, from start to finish, entertaining.
17:49
If Pimlit actually fought his style of fight, he might have
17:53
won the fight and I think. What he I don't disagree at all,
17:56
I think. He fended and on on a thought
17:59
that, hey, I want to give the fans everything that they're
18:01
paying for here, and that's what Patty does.
18:04
Patty is a fan favorite. That's why that's why you want
18:07
that and that's why guys that even though he lost the mutual
18:11
respect you have in a ring is is is completely different.
18:14
That's. That's the problem job.
18:16
That's why that's where I was getting at after the fight and
18:20
when obviously Joe Rogan came up to him and he looked at it and
18:23
you saw him, he was down and out and he said everything that he
18:28
came out in the fight. He said listen to the fans.
18:30
He said if it wasn't for the fans, I wouldn't.
18:32
I wouldn't be the fighter that I am.
18:34
And he says I want it obviously leave the ring with the belt,
18:37
but he says I would have. If I'm going to lose to
18:39
somebody, I'd rather lose to this guy than anybody else.
18:43
And and everybody was attacking him that he because he's 38 and
18:45
he's 31 and that he's an old man.
18:48
But guess what? As old, I can name a lot of guys
18:51
that won titles at old ages. Randy Couture, Randy Couture,
18:55
Chuck Liddell won a title later in his career.
18:58
You. See as well.
18:59
Yes, yes, a lot of these guys, even though what's his name
19:02
again? Who's fighting next week in the
19:03
main event? Vulkanowski.
19:05
He wanted 36. Volcan Volcanowski just won.
19:07
Won the belt again, yeah. So.
19:09
Yeah, I think Arrow, I think you and Jabba both made great
19:11
points, like just made he made Patty fight his fight.
19:15
And like I I was really scared for Gaichi coming into this
19:17
verse because he hardly threw any light kicks and Patty was
19:21
chopping him down early and I thought he's he's softening up
19:24
Gaichi so he can set up the takedowns and get into his jiu
19:26
Jitsu. But I think when when Gaichi
19:29
first put hands on him and Patty was like, holy shit, when he
19:32
because I like he said, I don't think he'd ever felt power like
19:35
that before in his life. But it showed the resilience of
19:38
Patty Pumlin, even though he was his face looked like a tomato.
19:40
Like he said, like the Scousers, we don't get knocked out.
19:43
And Gaichi, yeah, he said like, my God, he was trying to kill
19:47
him the whole fight. And his coaches were yelling.
19:49
I'm saying like that wasn't the game plan.
19:50
I was trying to kill him and they were getting mad at me.
19:53
But it shows you the heart and the resiliency of Patty Pimble.
19:55
And like you said, Errol, he's still 31 years old.
19:58
He's got plenty of time. I think he'll work on his game
20:01
and he'll definitely be a. Champion.
20:02
Someday I would love to see him. Like his only mistake, his
20:07
biggest real mistake I thought was I, I was scared.
20:09
With Gaichi, he was ducking and dipping a lot and that leaves
20:12
him open in his defense with knees, but he was able to get
20:15
away with it. But with Patty, his issue was he
20:17
never really took his head off the center line and Gaichi was
20:20
popping him tons with his jab and then his upper cut.
20:23
He was done. His hands were dipping.
20:25
He was letting. He was letting Gaigi get every
20:28
power punch he wanted on him and every time Gaigi went after him
20:32
when he got it, when he moved Gaigi into the middle of the
20:34
ring, that's where he was dominating.
20:36
That's where Patty was dominating.
20:38
But every the time gaging backed him up, it looked like it was
20:42
his fight and gaging made it his fight.
20:45
And and again, I, I will say this about Patty.
20:48
I love the guy. I really do.
20:49
I, I, I was never a Conor McGregor fan.
20:51
Never. But I don't like his antics.
20:54
But this guy, there's no antics with this guy.
20:56
This guy, he has a lot of respect for the everybody that
20:59
gets in the ring with. I obviously him and Ilia don't
21:02
like each other and one of these days these guys are going to get
21:06
in the Octagon with one another and I can't wait that for that
21:09
to happen. I think it'll be a great fight
21:11
and I don't think I I don't think these guys will stand
21:14
against one another. I think both guys are great,
21:16
great, great takedown fighters. I think Patty will be a little
21:19
bit smarter against Ilia than and and I'm going to tell you
21:22
Ilia doesn't have the power that Gagey has.
21:25
Gagey has this power. It's like it's like, it's like,
21:28
it's not. It's like a heavyweight power
21:31
coming from a lightweight fighter.
21:33
It is an amazing thing watching this guy throw punches and and
21:37
how and if he lands full thrust, he can knock out a heavyweight.
21:41
That's how strong Justin Gage he is.
21:43
And it's a great story too with Justin.
21:45
Justin came into mixed martial arts a little bit later in his
21:48
career and really became a fan favorite the last six years of
21:53
his, you know, MMA career. A lot of people didn't really
21:56
give him enough credit for all the work that he's put in and
21:59
all the dedication he's put into the mixed martial arts world in
22:01
the UFC. And the UFC loves him.
22:03
Dana White loves him and loves the fact that Justin Gagey is
22:07
the interim coach, I mean interim champion, and might have
22:10
an opportunity at the White House to fight Ilya if it
22:14
happens. Carol, why?
22:15
Why I think they love it and and I want to hear both of your
22:18
guys's opinions on this is because both of these dudes
22:21
right now, they're so relatable as human beings because they're
22:26
grinders. That's what they do like and
22:29
that's why they put on such a product.
22:31
That was great. Why obviously in the first
22:36
Peacock Paramount plus, excuse me, with event that they're
22:41
doing, you had two dudes that are relate.
22:44
They're us, they're us. They just happen to be really
22:47
damn good at beating each other up and they didn't give in and
22:52
they knew that was an absolute battle between both of them in
22:57
the respect. Because I think when you try to
22:59
draw a crowd and you try to draw things to us as viewers and as
23:05
spectators and people that love the sport is you got dudes that
23:09
are relatable. And it's it's something that you
23:14
saw with how things transpired throughout this entire fight if.
23:18
If this fight wasn't like that Jabba, this would have been one
23:21
of the worst cards the USC put together.
23:23
It was bad this. Was, but it became relatable to
23:25
because it's like that's that's the dude like we go to we go to
23:29
dinner every month or we go have beers at at happy.
23:32
Like that's the dudes that like we think they are.
23:36
We don't know them personally, obviously, but it's like, that's
23:40
the dude, and it's literally what I loved about it was first
23:44
of all, the energy was crazy. Energy was dope because you get
23:48
behind people like that. The energy didn't come from
23:51
Gagey. The energy came from Patty
23:52
Pimlet. He came.
23:54
Both of them, the energy from Gagey is like, that's the dude
23:57
that I sit next to or I go to the gym with that I would never
24:01
know he's anything. Yeah, but that's the thing,
24:03
Gagey. When he goes out there, he's
24:05
holding the American flag, he's walking out there and he gets
24:08
into the ring and I know stands for USA and it was USA versus
24:11
England. That's the way people were
24:13
making out to be. But it really wasn't.
24:15
It was two guys with two 2 champions that have a lot of
24:19
respect for one another. You have to like just engage
24:22
you. Just engage you before the fight
24:23
didn't go after Patty. Patty went after him and Gage
24:27
you doesn't talk a lot of crap. He doesn't really go out there
24:30
and and he does all his talking in the ring.
24:33
He uses his hands and he says, oh, you want to?
24:35
Talk. That's why the embedded wasn't
24:37
anything like the embedded that usually like you have some of
24:41
these ones and you know this as well as I do, Jake, those
24:44
embedded ones where people don't like each other are fascinating
24:47
for us to watch. The episodes.
24:49
This one, you're like, they both respect each other.
24:52
What are we going to get? What is it going to be?
24:54
Yeah, Jabba, I think you made a great point about that.
24:56
Like you said, the embedded, there wasn't too much fire
24:59
behind it. There's a little talk at the
25:00
press conference because obviously we want to hype up the
25:02
fight. And they were obviously couldn't
25:03
talk a little smack. But I was watching Justin
25:05
Gaichy's personal YouTube channel and he was documenting
25:08
his fight, which he calls the Art of violence.
25:10
His, his, you know, his journey to the fight and his training
25:13
camp. And like you said, you see him
25:15
with his coaches, with his, with his fellow training partners at
25:19
Kamaro. Ustman is one of them, coach
25:21
Trevor Whitman. And you see how Justin interacts
25:23
with his family and his friends and he's a very relatable guy.
25:26
Like you said. And like you said, Errol, the
25:28
energy was all behind Patty. And Justin was kind of like the,
25:31
of course, the American and it was in America.
25:33
But this international superstar who the UFC is trying to build,
25:37
he had all the hype, all the energy going into the fight.
25:40
But Justin was the everyman, the guy who you could, you know,
25:42
like you said, Jabba, sit down, have a beer with talking, just
25:45
loving sports and, you know, your everyday best friend.
25:48
And as that fight built and built, the respect between both
25:51
fighters and the respect from the crowd, they got behind
25:54
Justin Gaichi while still being behind Patty Pimblet was made.
25:58
It just, it's so, so special. I want to give a shout out to
26:01
Patty Pimblet. And after the fight, after all
26:04
that stuff and after all the craziness in that Octagon, when
26:08
he spoke to Joe Rogan and coming out and saying what he said, his
26:12
two, his two best friends killed themselves.
26:15
And he said, listen, we fight. We have fun and we're fighting
26:19
and and we love what we do. There's no reason to kill each
26:21
other. Every man, if you need help, it
26:24
says a lot about Patty Pendler because after losing a fight,
26:27
hit a championship fight, which he's been fighting all these
26:30
years to get into the Octagon, to have the opportunity to win
26:33
that belt to, to go out and lose the fight the way he did and,
26:38
and, and get pulverized the way he did.
26:40
To go out there and, and, and put his, you know, and give a
26:43
shout out to his friend's father and, and, and obviously his two
26:46
friends that obviously killed themselves says a lot about who
26:49
he is as a person. I, I think people want to look
26:51
at him as a bad guy or he, he, he's trying to sell a product
26:55
and sometimes he could be an ass.
26:56
This is not a guy that's going to go out and try to find a
26:59
Russian mafia guy and try to knock him out like a Conor
27:02
McGregor has done after, after the fact.
27:05
This is the kind of guy that you can go to a bar and drink with
27:08
and have a little fun with and go dancing with and, and just
27:12
have a, you know, have a conversation with.
27:14
He is a good dude. And I, I, I give, I want to give
27:17
a shout out to Patty Pimblett. Patty the Batty.
27:20
He, he's a very likable person. I don't care what anybody says
27:23
about this guy. This guy's got the heart of gold
27:26
and it says a lot about who he is as a person.
27:29
I, I, I, my heart goes out to his his friends and their
27:33
families. To hear that story after the
27:35
fact, it, it just says a lot about who he is.
27:37
And, and it was a great fight. It was sensational.
27:39
It was a draw. And I, I'm sure after that whole
27:43
betting thing, that scheme fight, you know, he UFC, yeah,
27:48
UFC had to take something off the card because there was some
27:52
kind of information that there was some kind of betting scheme
27:55
coming out of that fight. And, and the UFC has been very
27:59
quick on this and, and Dana White's been really
28:01
investigating this before even the fights happen.
28:03
So I got to give Dana White a little bit of credit.
28:05
Well, and he always, he always says that's the one thing he
28:08
said. He's like, we noticed all the
28:09
trends and that's why we we do the things that we do and to
28:13
notice it. But yeah, I mean, you can't take
28:17
anything like and we're talking about Fight of the year in
28:19
January when they have 39 weeks of this and.
28:25
And then but, but the job. But that's the crazy thing.
28:27
When's the last time you can remember that there's another
28:29
big fight? The week after 325 is next week.
28:33
Think about that. They've got 325I don't remember
28:36
in the beginning of the year. Yeah, yeah, it's a big fight.
28:40
It's a better card than this one.
28:42
Next week's cards better than this card.
28:43
So when was the last time? Sorry.
28:46
Really quick, one last thing. I just want to ask you, we'll
28:47
talk next time. Obviously, I think because we
28:49
have the interim champion just engaging now, I believe you
28:51
probably will tell Julie to pour you at the White House for you
28:54
for Patty because obviously he needs a name, but you don't want
28:57
to just crush his confidence completely yet.
28:59
I would think either. This is what I would think.
29:01
I don't want to know what you think.
29:02
I would probably give him either the loser of next week's Benoit
29:05
Saint Denis and Dan Hooker or you could give him the loser of
29:10
Holloway and and Charles Oliveira.
29:13
I'm just wondering who would you think would be the next matchup
29:16
for Patty Pima because obviously you want to keep him relevant,
29:18
give him a star. But again, it's like, if you
29:21
want to crush his confidence, what do you?
29:23
What would you do personally? I would go Holloway or Oliveira,
29:26
whoever wins that fight, they're 2.
29:28
I would agree. They're they're two of the
29:29
biggest names in in the sport. You want to put Patty Pimblet in
29:32
there, He'll probably beat both of them.
29:35
He cannot get into the ring and fight Max Holloway like that
29:38
either. Max Holloway is the best boxer
29:40
in in in the UFC. You do not want to fight him
29:43
like that. His chimney, you can give him
29:45
everything you got. He's he.
29:47
He's going to go down in a grave like taking a punch, like it's
29:51
not going to. He's got the heaviest punches.
29:53
In yeah, I think those, I think those two matchups, what you
29:56
bring up Jake, I think that's a better one because if you're
30:00
promoting it and doing everything, their names first
30:02
and foremost, right? You don't want to kill his
30:05
confidence, you don't want to kill his name.
30:07
But now it's like you got 2 stubs.
30:09
But Jabba, you don't also want to put him in a ring with a guy
30:13
that has the experience and that could beat him again and that
30:15
really will put him down and out and make him feel like he can't
30:19
do this. We've seen plenty of guys that
30:22
have gone and lost 2, three in a row where they still are there.
30:26
Interesting. The only reason I wonder was
30:29
because he's kind of obviously he just beat Michael Chandler,
30:32
been lost to Gaichi, but he's kind of ascended past that.
30:35
You can't really give him someone lower than like the top
30:38
6. So I think maybe you could give
30:40
him Dan Hooker BSD, but he he's almost too big of a star point
30:44
where you kind of have to give him someone like a Charles
30:47
Olivera or a Max Holloway. But the winner of that fight's
30:50
probably going to be 1 to maybe fight the winner of Gaichi Ilia
30:53
or even Armin Sarukian. But he's probably not ready for
30:56
someone like Armin. So I'd say maybe give him the
30:58
loser of that matchup or even just the.
30:59
He does not want to. Patty does not want to fight
31:02
Armin next. He doesn't want.
31:03
To that's what I'm saying. I don't think you want to like
31:06
just brutally take his Armin. He's angry and he's ready.
31:10
I mean, again, we'll see what Dana White does with him because
31:12
again, you can't just let him sit and wait forever.
31:14
So the winner of Olivera and and.
31:18
That's the crazy thing, because Peter Yon has Peter Yon forever
31:23
was waiting for that fight with Marab.
31:25
He waited a long time to get that rematch with Marab and then
31:29
he finally got it and he proved himself.
31:31
And now Marab is in the driver's seat.
31:33
Because to me, Marab can wait. He's still, I saw him the other
31:36
day and he is still has a broken nose.
31:38
And I what I mean by that, I went to the gym, I saw Marab at
31:41
the gym. His nose is still broken.
31:42
So he's he's not going to be able to fight.
31:46
He might not be able to fight in the next three or four months.
31:48
He needs to give to give time. So maybe he doesn't maybe he
31:51
doesn't fight yon at the White House.
31:54
So we'll see. I, I think this is great.
31:56
Thank you, Jake for joining us. We'll get you on next week cuz
31:59
320 fives on next week. Your great takes man and happy
32:02
to for you to join us on the UFC takes.
32:04
Sounds good fellas. Good to see you.
32:06
Have a good night you. Too.
32:08
Jakey boy, great personality, great guy, great intern, and I
32:13
agree with him. There was a lot, a lot to be
32:15
said on that fight. It was really a great job by
32:18
Jake and it was a sensational fighting.
32:20
If you haven't checked my story, go check out my story.
32:22
Speedy, send Jake my story, all right.
32:24
I think he'll like it. I wrote a story about the gagey
32:27
and pamphlet fight and I I put after the fight.
32:30
I actually put two hours into it.
32:32
I couldn't sleep that night, so I wasn't going to wait until the
32:34
next day. The the fight didn't end till
32:36
like 132 o'clock. So weird but weird.
32:39
Didn't sleep. Shocker.
32:40
Yeah, well, whatever. You should talk big mouth.
32:44
All right, Ladies and gentlemen, we call this Dial It Up.
32:47
We interrupt this regular scheduled hot mix to bring an
32:50
important news book. We got a.
32:52
Big broadcast to do here. We're about.
32:57
To dial it up, let me tell you something, and it's funny about
32:59
Jabba. I've got to know Jabba over the
33:02
last, I would say the last year and a half.
33:06
I, I, I know he is just like me. He is a night guy.
33:10
He does not sleep. He's a, he's really like a mommy
33:15
so he can make fun of me all he wants.
33:17
He's up at two, 3:00 in the morning doing whatever the hell
33:20
he's doing in Nebraska. Who knows, playing with himself
33:22
or something? I said this, well, while he's
33:24
not here, there's going to be a future graphic.
33:26
Java, Java and a mummy Something something.
33:30
Put job on a mummy scene. We'll get it going.
33:32
There's like a whole like notebook of graphics I've got to
33:35
get around to making. Let's get into.
33:38
Dial it up. Everyone's favorite Lightning
33:41
Round sports segment. We got a bunch of stories that
33:44
Errol has not seen yet. He's going to react to them and
33:46
then one of us will comment off of his reaction.
33:49
Here we go. Got a few really good ones and
33:53
one that's kind of updating as we're talking.
33:56
Not this one. This one is real fascinating.
34:00
Giannis down for another four to six weeks with a calf injury.
34:06
It's going to take it past the trade deadline.
34:10
But now that he's out and presumably they're going to go
34:14
in the tank, is this making it more likely that he'll be dealt,
34:20
even if it's like $0.75 on the dollar this season at the this
34:26
year's trade deadline? Only in a few weeks, Errol.
34:29
Dial it up. Absolutely.
34:32
First of all, if a team like the Knicks, so the big Bulls or
34:36
maybe the Thunder, we've heard stories about the Thunder.
34:39
They have a tremendous amount of stock.
34:41
If they think that they're missing something, and they
34:43
might not be, the Thunder hasn't played well as they were, you
34:46
know, six weeks ago, but they're still an elite team.
34:50
But if they think they're a Giannis away from winning
34:52
another title, I could see them pulling the trigger 100 percent,
34:56
100%. This makes it a reason why why
34:59
he's going to be traded at the trade deadline.
35:01
It doesn't matter if he's out three or four weeks, teams will
35:04
still offer the farm for him and give up whatever it takes to get
35:07
him. He'll be ready for the playoffs
35:09
and that's why you need Giannis is is winning a championship.
35:12
So 100% this is a slam dunk. He will be traded at the trade
35:16
deadline. Yeah, this is this is another
35:17
one of these like phantom injuries or you're going to
35:20
misdiagnose the length of the report.
35:21
It may say four to six weeks. He'll be back in two weeks if he
35:24
just end up on another team that he's not going to be stuck with
35:27
Milwaukee A-Team. That's just really as we speak.
35:29
We see with the NFL all the time, too, with a lot of these
35:31
hamstring or cap injuries. This is nothing new.
35:34
Giannis is inevitably gone. We'll see if it's the Knicks, if
35:36
it's not somebody. If it's not the Knicks, it'll
35:37
definitely be someone else, one of these younger teams.
35:39
It's not the Lakers, just. No, it's not the Lakers.
35:41
It's not the Lakers. I said young teams.
35:43
I'm just. Saying it's not the Lakers.
35:45
All right, from basketball, we go to the diamond and this one
35:53
is surely going to really grind your gears.
35:57
I don't know if you guys knew this, but it came out I think
36:01
yesterday. There's some real great
36:03
investigative reporting done by a reporter named June Lee
36:08
because the Dodgers went bankrupt under the courts about
36:12
151315 years ago, the MLB set up a deal with the Dodgers that
36:20
instead of, I think it was around 25 to 33% of television
36:24
revenue as outlined by, I believe, whatever bargaining
36:29
agreement with the league. The Dodgers, because they went
36:33
bankrupt, only have to pay 10% of their television revenue
36:38
every year until the end of their media deal, which Julia
36:43
discovered runs through 2039. She calculated it they save
36:50
66,000,000 today, not to mention what it will be in the future
36:54
with inflation each season because of this grandfather deal
37:01
that's helping them be this deferred Dodgers that has been
37:07
now a back-to-back champion Errol.
37:11
Dial it up. Oh my God, the fact that I'm
37:13
hearing this now even makes me more sick.
37:16
I didn't even know about this story.
37:18
It tells me one thing. Baseball wants the Dodgers to be
37:21
the Dodgers. Baseball has put their
37:24
organization on the line, their name on the line to protect an
37:28
organization that's been ruining the game of baseball.
37:31
I don't care what anybody says, the fact that Otani's there,
37:33
Mookie Betts is there, everybody is there and they keep adding
37:37
more and more players and they're grandfathered in till 2,
37:41
2039 and, and, and saving 66 or $70 million a year and they
37:46
don't have to pay, but other teams have to.
37:48
It's pathetic. It shows you how bad baseball is
37:51
running, how the CBA and, and after this year has to go to a
37:54
lockout and that ownership needs to figure out how to put the
37:58
Dodgers in the same area and, and connect the Dodgers in the
38:02
same position they're in. It's pathetic.
38:05
This is really, really bad for baseball.
38:06
And the Dodgers think that they could do whatever they want.
38:09
And, and as I said, Rob Manford's running the league and
38:12
Rob Manford I think is in cahoots with the Los Angeles
38:15
Dodgers. It's it's pathetic, it's
38:17
terrible. And, and again, it's typical.
38:20
I'm not not surprised, not surprised at the story.
38:22
It's it's weird because like I knew a little bit back end of
38:26
this. I didn't know obviously the
38:28
logistics of it, but it goes back to the fact that they they
38:33
lost over 100 games and then stole the team for over a
38:37
billion dollars after they had just lost 100 games.
38:41
Magic Johnson's group like, so if you go back that far, that
38:45
was part of the deal. That was part of the deal and
38:48
why they could like grow and structure it.
38:51
And I was playing at the time and we were like, what?
38:56
This kind of doesn't really make sense, you know, And it's like,
39:00
well, from a business aspect, it makes a ton of sense and that's
39:06
why they did it. And now we're seeing the upside
39:11
of what they're doing and how it's changing and is it right or
39:16
wrong? And I never will ever admit to
39:20
Arrow, but I I think you're right into that they're they're
39:24
changing the game, not in a good way, but they've done it to be
39:30
allowed to do it and save the money on the back end, the side
39:33
of things where we we've seen it.
39:36
And I kind of knew that from the get go.
39:39
I didn't know how far this would go.
39:41
Didn't didn't know it would go to this point.
39:44
But they played their cards right and that's the way they've
39:48
done it. And we'll see what happens as as
39:52
moving forward with what 2026 is going to give us and then what
39:55
27 is going to be it. Always looks bad when you're
39:58
always when you have all these teams that are struggling with
40:01
local TV deals that have gone bankrupt and had to switch
40:05
networks or had to switch over to streaming services recently.
40:08
And then you have these other teams like Jabba you were
40:10
talking about the Dodgers were were bankrupt, they had to
40:13
switch ownership and. And so quickly they just got
40:17
like the Red Sox, all their like, carry over bad contracts
40:22
in one year in 2012. And then they made the playoffs
40:25
out this year where they were competitive with like Adrian
40:27
Gonzalez and Crawford and all those guys.
40:29
And then all of a sudden since then, they haven't missed the
40:31
playoffs. It's just, yeah, it's kind of
40:32
odd how it happened so fast and now you're seeing all these
40:34
other big contracts. Yeah, it's going to add up over
40:36
time. And it won't be surprising if
40:38
it's maybe a Clipper situation. There might be some under the
40:41
money under the table money, so. That's kind of happened when
40:44
like with the royal here, with when Valley and then Valley went
40:48
bankrupt, yeah. Valley was a lot of Midwest
40:51
teams. Yeah, no shit.
40:53
I'm here. This is where I live.
40:57
So yeah, it kind of plays on both sides and it's just
41:01
interesting that they, I guess, beat the market before it
41:06
actually. Happened.
41:07
It's not interesting. It's absolutely not interesting.
41:10
It's it's pathetic. It is interesting.
41:12
It's pathetic. It's.
41:13
Pathetic. It's absolutely pathetic that
41:16
baseball has allowed them to get away with.
41:18
It it's interesting and corrupts Java.
41:19
Let's yes, yeah, from the business.
41:22
Side this take pisses me off even deeper.
41:26
It really does it. Really.
41:27
It's it's like, it's just this is how it's rigged.
41:31
This is why they have all this extra money to play with because
41:35
they're saving 66,000,000 every single season.
41:39
It's absolutely out of control that they're allowing it, but
41:43
they are and we'll see what happens with the next labour
41:45
negotiation. But I don't know if it's
41:48
grandfathered in like how did like how are you supposed to
41:50
change that? I don't think you can.
41:53
So. I mean, unless, you know, the
41:56
the rest of the league goes well, then all of our deals need
41:58
to look like that so that we're on a level playing field.
42:01
And then you take money from all of us differently and they find
42:05
a way to make it even. But it's going to be a pain in
42:08
the ass to do it sounds like. And there may be a a work
42:11
stoppage. There really might be for the
42:14
first time in quite a while. So let's move on to this story
42:17
that I've been actually trying to buy time by.
42:20
Keep talking about this one with you guys because it's going on
42:23
right now, right at the end of the game and it looks like
42:26
they're not going to win. BYU is coming back against
42:30
Arizona, but they get blocked at the hoop just now with about two
42:34
seconds left. You got to.
42:36
Follow BYU basketball right now because they have the number one
42:40
pick in the draft, AJ Dabansa. He is fantastic.
42:45
They for some reason didn't give it to him for this last play, I
42:49
guess because he's a freshman and he got swatted.
42:52
The guy gets swatted one inch from the hoop.
42:54
Nice defensive play by the guy in Arizona, but the game before
42:58
Dabansa put up a freshman record 43 points.
43:03
If you haven't watched him play, it's like, I don't know how to
43:07
compare him. I would say he's kind of reminds
43:09
me of like Rudy Gay if he played like Dwyane Wade, you know what
43:14
I mean? Like he has he's, he has the,
43:17
the, the like, the the way that he looks is like how Rudy Gay
43:20
looked in college. He was like a lanky, really
43:23
long, but plays really good defenses just up in your face.
43:27
Reminds me of Wade in that way. And offensively, this guy's
43:30
putting up over 20 points every single game.
43:33
He put up 43 against Utah. He had I think about 25 tonight.
43:38
I just couldn't get the threes to drop.
43:40
He's for real, man, and I think it's time we start paying
43:44
attention to maybe a generational talent in the
43:49
Bansa. Dial it up.
43:51
First of all, he reminds me more of an Anthony Edwards.
43:54
That's the type of player that he is.
43:55
He's taller though, like by like a few inches.
43:58
Yeah, but his game is like Anthony Edwards.
44:00
He's acrobatic, he can shoot, he can do all those things.
44:03
He can just awe you. But I don't know if he's the
44:06
number one pick. I mean, Cam Boozer has been
44:08
fantastic all season long. He's been as good as him And,
44:12
and, and the kid from Kansas is pretty good too.
44:15
Peterson, he's really good too. All three of those guys.
44:20
Yeah, Peterson's a special player too.
44:22
But I, I again, the kid looks great.
44:25
BYU, obviously he chose BYU because he was the go to guy.
44:29
BYU is going to get into the tournament because of this guy.
44:32
He's got a great ability. I watched him three times so far
44:35
this year. He's fun to watch.
44:37
He's acrobatically fun. He can dunk.
44:39
He's going to be a guy that's going to be in a dunking contest
44:42
in the NBA his first or second year.
44:44
He's that type of player. And wherever he goes, wherever
44:47
is, if it's Portland OR the Nets or whoever gets that number one
44:50
pick or maybe #2 because I still think Cam Boozer has been just
44:54
as good, maybe even better this year all around.
44:56
Cam could go a number one this year.
44:58
So they're they're all I'm telling.
45:01
You. I just think.
45:03
The I'm going to tell you this right now.
45:05
You mark my words, and I know basketball more than more than
45:08
anybody on this show, Campbell. I'm out.
45:12
Who knows more about basketball in the show?
45:15
College basketball? I know more about college
45:17
basketball than you. I definitely do.
45:19
I wouldn't go that you. Want you want to have a little
45:22
quiz trivia question? Let's go.
45:24
I'll tell you this right now. I will tell.
45:26
You next time we'll do college. I will tell you this right now.
45:30
You can mark this. You can mark this.
45:32
Cam Boozer is the best player in this draft.
45:35
You can mark it wherever he goes.
45:36
He's the best player in this world.
45:38
Are you talking basketball wise or are you talking athletically
45:41
wise? All around the best basketball.
45:43
In this draft, AJ is way more athletic.
45:46
Than Cambodia. We'll see.
45:48
We'll see. So, so I I'm going to agree with
45:50
Jabba as far as the athleticism where he may not be in the long
45:55
run a better player. Look, it kind of reminds me, you
45:59
know, you go back to the LeBron and Carmelo stuff and Carmelo
46:01
was never the athlete LeBron was when they were coming out.
46:05
And LeBron obviously surpassed him in all a bunch of other ways
46:08
as well as a team player champion and things like that.
46:11
But when they came out, if you remember back in the day, it was
46:15
just, you know, LeBron was just a little bit more athletic and
46:18
they had the same size otherwise, but.
46:21
I I disagree, I've watched Cam Boozer all season long.
46:25
I'm a Duke fan. I've watched Remember.
46:26
Every single power, like a traditional power.
46:28
Oh no, he's he could play small forward.
46:30
Too. He's got that bat that can play
46:32
front, he can ace up or he can play back to the bat.
46:34
He's a good defender, Great. He is a good defender.
46:37
He can play defend multiple position.
46:39
He's very long. He's acrobatic.
46:41
He's acrobatic. I've watched.
46:43
Him so looks like freaking OG Anobi out on the wing.
46:46
Dude, I'm gonna defense dad right now.
46:48
It's crazy what he's doing on the perimeter, being a
46:51
perimeter. We'll get him on a show.
46:53
MBA get him on a show dude. It's far more important to be a
46:56
good perimeter defender than to be in the post today.
46:59
It's just how it is. The band says skill set.
47:02
I'm hearing like it's a lock that he's number.
47:05
One. Well, I think whoever picks
47:07
number one is making a mistake. That's all I'm gonna say.
47:10
And I'm not saying he's not good, but.
47:12
They're getting a great player no matter.
47:15
Yeah, 100%. I'm not a.
47:16
Great year to be in the top. Yeah, dude, top three, top
47:20
three, top 10. I think there's three like
47:23
franchise. Dude, there is 10.
47:25
I'm telling you this is the most in in draft history.
47:28
Speedy and me. I've gotten people on the show
47:30
before you guys or even a part. They told us 2026 is the year to
47:36
stock up on draft picks. That's why the Nets have a ton
47:38
of them. I'm telling you right now,
47:40
they're. I'm sure we're going to get
47:42
really into this in just a month when we get.
47:44
There are 10 guys in this class 10, and you're just like 4
47:49
European players too by the way. Let's get into the next story
47:52
because this one is really kind of sentimental.
47:56
And if you loved watching explosive point guards in the
48:00
NBA, you loved watching Derrick Rose play for the Chicago Bulls.
48:06
They finally got around to retiring his jersey.
48:09
He's the fifth guy ever to have his jersey retired as a Bull.
48:14
Obviously that's a high honor. We remember him.
48:19
Unfortunately, you know, most of his career, second-half of the
48:23
career, just not the same guy. After the bad knee injury,
48:27
everyone watched it just blow out in the playoffs.
48:30
Never never was the same one in MVP.
48:34
Many people would argue probably didn't deserve that MVP, but
48:38
disagree did win that MVP. This that most, most people
48:41
thought that was like, they just didn't want to give it to LeBron
48:44
again. But Derrick Rose obviously had a
48:49
crazy High Peak with some of the most unbelievable hops and
48:55
explosive movements that we've ever seen on a basketball court.
49:00
Errol dial it up. First of all, Derrick Rose
49:04
absolutely won the MVP that year.
49:05
I disagree. LeBron is a great player, but he
49:08
also played with Dwyane Wade that year.
49:10
He plays with Chris Bosh. Who did he play with?
49:12
Who did Derrick Rose play with? Jacquim Noah, all these other
49:17
guys, these are secondary players on a team.
49:20
This guy was the guy. He was the best point guard in
49:22
the NBA for like 5 years before his knee blew out and then he
49:26
came back. He still was in he somewhat of
49:29
an elite player and then he blew out his knee again and then he
49:31
was done and then he started getting moved around in his
49:34
career. This guy absolutely should be
49:37
respected as one of the best Chicago Bulls of all time.
49:40
I don't he's not quite the Scottie Pippen Michael Jordan
49:45
route any of those guys but or Dennis Rodman, but he is right
49:50
after them. This guy has been the face of
49:53
the Bulls for a significant amount of time.
49:55
A special, special player. Very nice guy.
49:57
I know he's had his background and stuff that he's done on and
50:00
off the court. Maybe mental issues, but this
50:03
guy's by and that's why he had those mental issues when this
50:06
guy goes on and when he goes on the basketball court, one of the
50:08
best ball handlers I've ever seen, one of the best dunkers
50:12
I've ever seen at his size. He's not a big man and, and, and
50:15
he almost won a national championship with Memphis.
50:18
This guy's special and, and, and very well deserved
50:21
Congratulations to Derrick Rose. I didn't even know that I love
50:24
him. I I loved him on the Knicks.
50:25
He wasn't a big Nick, but he he was a guy that I love to watch.
50:28
Just fun to watch, right, Playing for my team and for the
50:31
Chicago Bulls. Great, great story.
50:33
Thank you. Yeah, it's good.
50:34
It's good to see like you're looking at all the pressure for
50:36
a lot of these guys post Jordan era too and obviously none of
50:40
those guys all over Michael Jordan.
50:41
But like Derrick Rose, was that high end prospect the best like
50:44
player we've seen since then, really changed the explosiveness
50:47
of the point guard position for a while with along with Russell
50:49
Westbrook. And yeah, it's a shame what
50:51
happened with a knee injury. He won an MVP, though he just
50:53
again didn't have. Enough if he didn't blow his
50:55
knee. Yeah, if he didn't blow his
50:57
knee, Chicago definitely wins another title.
50:59
The one that you guys forget about that didn't if he didn't
51:03
have injuries, Brandon Roy, Brandon Roy would have been.
51:07
AI completely agree with you on that.
51:09
One Portland Trail Blazers. Yeah, we know.
51:11
They knew when he was drafted that he had like no cartilage in
51:14
the knee and that he was only going to last a handful of
51:16
years. But he when he when he was still
51:18
going, that was a great player, but not in the same way.
51:21
And to me, like you know when you've watched.
51:24
A guy he. Didn't get the chance.
51:26
He didn't, and it wasn't fair, you know, sometimes it's not.
51:28
Fair four years, he was good. Brandon Roy was good for four.
51:31
Years, you know, but kind of interesting like they absolutely
51:34
was good. He was like a 25 and five guy.
51:36
He was he was really good. You know, like it's kind of very
51:40
similar, but like in opposite ways where his athleticism was
51:44
like never going to last. And then you had Derrick Rose's
51:46
was like like he's like pushed. It's like 100, you know, every
51:50
single second that he was out there and he just blew it out
51:53
and round the same amount of time, you know, I would argue
51:58
their peaks were so Oh, well, we got one more story, an arrow.
52:04
This one is one of your favorites.
52:05
Oh, how wonderful. This is one of the guys that I
52:09
wouldn't say we emulate, but it's somebody that is very
52:12
instructive to us on how this business works.
52:15
It's your boy, Stephen A. Did you hear the snafu A Smith
52:21
that he pulled this time? Oh, I bet you didn't, because
52:24
who cares? But we're going to talk about it
52:26
today because it's pretty embarrassing.
52:29
Well, obviously the AFC championship game took place on
52:32
Sunday and the Patriots faced the Broncos.
52:36
Well, on Friday's episode of First Take, Stephen A tried to
52:39
give credit to the defensive genius behind the efforts of the
52:45
Patriots. Who was a guy named Terrell
52:48
Williams? There's a brother coaching that
52:50
defense. Terrell Williams.
52:51
We ain't mentioned him all year long.
52:52
Reunited Mike Vrabel. This man has done a hell of a
52:55
job with the defense that's ranked top five in the National
52:57
Football League. OK, so we going to give brothers
53:00
credit on this show and that brother's doing his thing.
53:04
It's a bit awkward, though, because Williams hasn't coached
53:08
the team since Week 2. He's been out fighting prostate
53:13
cancer. After that, hasn't been with the
53:16
team at all. Inside linebackers coach Zach
53:18
Kerr has been calling the Patriots defensive plays.
53:22
And should be up for a job, by the way.
53:24
Should definitely have some talk about it, but it's gets better
53:29
because this is Stephen A we're talking about.
53:32
When confronted with the fact that he had the snafu, Stephen A
53:38
said nice try on X. First of all, we reported
53:41
earlier in the year that he was out due to prostate cancer when
53:44
it happened. Secondly, he still talks to
53:47
coaches for game planning purposes.
53:48
Thirdly, forgetting to mention all of that is different than
53:51
not knowing. Plus, it really doesn't matter
53:54
when I've got experts like Ryan Clark, Cam backing me up.
54:00
Errol, dial it up. First of all, Cam Newton, Ryan
54:06
Clark Experts. Experts in what?
54:10
All right, Cam Newton, who doesn't even know his ass from
54:13
his tailbone, and Ryan Clark that he dresses nice but says
54:17
the dumbest things during the halves of any sports game I've
54:21
ever seen. I remember Ryan Clark a couple
54:23
of years ago. He tried to do broadcasting for
54:25
basketball and how bad he was. I Ryan Clark is where he is
54:28
because he played in the NFL and I don't want to hear Stephen A
54:31
Smith saying he has experts. He kisses everybody's ass, but
54:34
anybody that has any meaning towards the sport.
54:37
How about Max Kellerman? Did he ever respect Max
54:39
Kellerman, even though he calls him the man and he calls him
54:42
something of of a genius when it comes to the boxing world, but
54:45
then he attacks him the way he did and that's why Max Kellerman
54:47
came and attacked him. Here's the facts here.
54:50
If you're going to speak, actually know what you're
54:52
talking about, Steve, because you're going to go out there and
54:55
you're going to throw yourself out there on a big show because
54:58
you made it a big show and you bring all your quote on quote
55:01
smart guys. Why wasn't your smart guys
55:04
actually stepping in and giving you that information?
55:07
The reason why is they're not smart.
55:08
They're idiots like you. That's why.
55:10
The fact here is you don't know what you're talking about.
55:13
You shouldn't be watching football.
55:14
Stick to basketball. Stick to only basketball.
55:17
I don't want to hear your MMA take.
55:19
I don't want to hear your boxing take, your baseball take, your
55:21
hockey take. You don't know crap.
55:23
All you do is open your mouth and crap comes out of it and
55:27
it's crappy and you're going to try to stick up for yourself and
55:30
make up an an excuse. There is no excuse.
55:33
You screwed up, admit you screwed up and move on.
55:35
But you're Stephen A Smith and you don't want to be put on that
55:39
pedestal of an idiot. So what you're going to do is
55:42
you're going to flap jacket because that's who you are and
55:45
make up all the crap that comes out of your mouth.
55:47
It's a lie. Just tell the truth.
55:49
You're screwed up, you're wrong, and that's it.
55:52
In this world, it's like you don't always have to be right.
55:56
It's OK to be wrong. I feel like like, and I'm
56:00
learning, but it's like people have more sentiment and more
56:06
like, yeah, my take was wrong. But like if you always come out
56:10
and say you're right and you try to, you know, have your footnote
56:14
and everything that you do when we wrote papers in college and
56:17
all the other stuff, like make sure you footnote all your work
56:21
and who you're giving credit. Like if we're wrong, we're
56:24
wrong, that's OK. Like that's OK to be wrong.
56:28
And I just feel like him sometimes he thinks he's in in
56:32
in such a high leverage, which he is, and he has earned that
56:37
from the basketball side. I will agree with that arrow
56:40
because when he started talking about baseball, I wanted to
56:43
vomit. But like if you just admit
56:46
you're wrong, dog, like it's okay, like it's, it's just it's
56:50
OK. Like your take was wrong or or
56:52
something went off kilter. There's nothing wrong it.
56:55
Was horrible. It's horribly.
56:57
I didn't even know this, but to to to go around in a circle and
57:00
try to make it an excuse just shows you how stupid you.
57:02
Really, it's like ridiculous to me, and it's just kind of what
57:05
we're seeing everywhere these days, these guys.
57:09
He's not the same as he used to be.
57:12
Like he used to cover the sport. He used to be a basketball guy.
57:16
We saw him doing solitaire in the middle of the NBA Finals
57:21
this year. He got caught.
57:23
And guess what he did? He made a deal with some
57:26
solitaire company to put his face on it, to profit off of it
57:30
instead of even like having any kind of hubris, because that's
57:33
how he is. There's no apologies.
57:36
Why should he apologize? It's not, it's not about the
57:40
sports. It's about him.
57:41
He's giving political takes on like on, on, on shows that like
57:46
that. Who wants to hear his political
57:48
takes? I don't even want to hear his
57:49
sports takes. I don't.
57:51
I definitely don't want to hear his freaking political takes.
57:54
Get the heck out of here, man. I don't even want your takes on
57:56
solitaire. I bet you're not even any good
57:58
at that either. I have a lot of respect for
58:01
Steven for all the success he's had, but and you have to look up
58:04
to somebody like that. And I want people to understand
58:07
that I don't hate Stephen A Smith as much as you think that
58:09
I do. Just like I don't hate Steph
58:11
Curry and I don't hate this guy and that guy.
58:13
It's part. It's just who I am.
58:16
But when somebody comes out there and can't admit I, even me
58:19
as a personality, a strong personality, when I'm wrong, I'm
58:22
wrong. I'll come out and say I'm wrong.
58:24
I'm not going to beat around a Bush and say, well, I didn't say
58:26
that, but or I have experts. I, you don't go out there and
58:31
tell me that Ryan Clark and Cam Newton are experts.
58:33
They're not experts. Those two guys are far from
58:37
expert experts. The only reason why they're
58:39
experts is because you brought them on your show and you say
58:41
they are. They're not.
58:42
If you learn from your mistakes so you're never wrong, then
58:46
you've stopped learning. Yeah, right.
58:49
And you can never admit that you're wrong.
58:52
That was kind of my point. It's like we're OK to be wrong.
58:55
Like, yeah, I mean like as Snug says, like he has a great
58:59
marketing team, but two-part of your marketing team is like when
59:02
we fail, like own up to it because that gives a realness in
59:06
in kind of what we talked about with Jake and how that like
59:11
they're real people. Like and everybody looks at us
59:15
on TV and whatever and professional athletes, we're
59:19
still human beings. We eat, sleep and do the same
59:23
thing everybody else. Does it just annoys me?
59:26
Just admit when you're wrong, it's OK.
59:28
It just annoys me. It annoys me that he doesn't
59:32
have an understanding of just being a man and and admitting
59:36
anything that he does is wrong. It's it's, it's bad, it's bad.
59:40
But guess what? ESPN has everything behind him
59:43
and they're going to ride and die with him.
59:44
So unfortunately, that's what they do and that's what they're
59:48
going to do moving forward. Thank you to all the fans on all
59:50
the platforms from Spotify and Apple, TikTok, Instagram X
59:56
YouTube, Jabba in the mouth and all the different platforms that
59:59
we're on. We really appreciate you guys
1:00:01
and stay tuned for some great shows this year and great
1:00:05
opportunities to see what we're going to be doing.
1:00:07
And, and I believe sometime this year we're going to be
1:00:10
positioned into maybe a huge announcement.
1:00:14
So just looking forward to a great year and I hope everybody
1:00:18
enjoys our show. We put a lot of time and effort
1:00:20
and work into this and. It's not you're just going to
1:00:23
throw slop on the and hopefully it sticks.
1:00:25
It's not like that. This show is not like that.
1:00:27
It's hard work, dedication, all the guys, speedy and fish and
1:00:32
all the guys that work on the back end to help this show
1:00:35
really, you know, become something of not only just, you
1:00:39
know, I believe one of the best shows in America, but one of the
1:00:43
shows that I think people are copycatting and and trying to
1:00:47
make their own, which is pathetic.
1:00:49
And, and you know who I'm talking about?
1:00:51
I don't even have to mention it. All you people out there that
1:00:54
are trying to copycat us because you're just shamefully shameful
1:00:59
enough to know that you have no create, create creativity,
1:01:05
ability to go out there and and put the the time and effort into
1:01:08
working and figuring out how you could be yourselves.
1:01:11
So that's all I'm going to say. I almost stuttered on that, but
1:01:14
that's it for our show. Speedy, who do we have on
1:01:16
tomorrow, Thursday? Time to be determined.
1:01:17
Still on, but he is coming. Come on.
1:01:19
He just converted two hours ago. He's be good to go.
1:01:21
Our friend Mr. Foyer, Luke and Jaguars.
1:01:23
Line all right, Foyer is going to be joining us.
1:01:25
We'll talk about the Jaguars, their season.
1:01:27
Obviously, you know Travis Hunter, the Gremlin, you know,
1:01:32
his quarterback that's had a pretty good second-half of the
1:01:34
season. So a lot to get into it with
1:01:36
Foyer. I'm sure he's going to laugh as
1:01:38
he always does when he comes on the show.
1:01:40
All right, that's it for our show.
1:01:41
Ladies and gentlemen, we'll see you Thursday.
1:01:43
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