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Mega Edition: Courtney Wild And Her Jeffrey Epstein Related Deposition From 2017 (Part 8-10) (4/23/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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where we left off with the Courtney Wild deposition. Question
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all right, so you testified, I believe and correct me
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if I'm wrong, that you had some sort of discussion
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with Tata Miller about Jeffrey Epstein ejaculating into his hand
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while getting a massage. Correct answer right question. And you
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don't recall when you were told that would occur? Answer right? Question. Okay,
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but did you also testify that the first time you
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gave a massage to mister Epstein he ejaculated into his hand.
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Answer yes, Question so being advised that that might happen
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occurred prior to your first visit with mister Epstein. Answer
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I can't remember. I mean, I guess so. Question okay,
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do you know whether Tata Miller works as a prostitute? Answer?
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I don't know. I haven't talked to her in a
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couple of years. Question okay, do you know whether she
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was working as a prostitute after she last saw Jeffrey Epstein?
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Answer I don't know. Question Okay, did you go with
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Tatum to New York on a trip paid by some men.
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Answer yes. Question okay, and during that trip that you
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went to New York with some men, did Tatum leave
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to go on some prostitution dates. Answer I'm not sure
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where she went when she left. Question but she left?
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Answer yeah. Question okay, did you ever visit Tatum at
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Fantasies where she worked? Answer I can't. I don't think so.
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Question okay, do you know what Fantasies is? Answer? Uh huh.
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Question okay. Answer well, I know that she worked to
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some place like that, but I can't remember the name
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of it. Question what do you mean by that? What
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do you mean by some place like that? What is that?
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Answer like a prostitution house or whatever. I don't know
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what you'd call it. Question okay, did she ever use
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the term jackshack? Answer yeah. Question what's the jack shack?
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Answer like a prostitution house? Question okay, and you knew
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that they don't worked at a jackshack? Answer yeah. Question
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okay did you ever see any website offering Tata Miller's services?
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Answer no, I don't think so. Question was your mother
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a drug addict? Is your mother a drug addict? Also
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answer She's been cleaned for six years. But when I
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was young, she was addicted to drugs. Question okay, and
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she was addicted to drugs prior to your meeting Jeffrey Epstein.
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Answer yes, mister Goldberger. How many people did you take
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to Jeffrey Epstein's home to work as a massage to
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give massages to mister Epstein? Answer like twenty or thirty girls?
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Question okay, And did you receive money for bringing people
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to mister Epstein's home? Answer yes. Question do you know
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who Didi is? Uh huh? Question okay, did you keep
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a list or a journal of people that you took
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to mister Epstein's home? Answer no, question No, you didn't
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do that. No you did not, answer I did not.
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Question did you take some women who were age meaning
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over the age of eighteen to mister Epstein's home? Four massages?
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Answer no, I always took people that were underage? Question okay,
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do you ever remember answering that question differently? Whether you
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brought girls who were over the age of eighteen to
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mister Epstein's home. Answer? Actually, now that I think about it,
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there was this girl named Amy that was over age
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that went to him, But I don't remember bringing anybody
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else besides her. Question do you remember giving a deposition
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on A six twenty ten in this case or in
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the related case? Answer yeah, question, and you were sworn
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to tell the truth in that deposition? Answer right? Question?
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And were you telling the truth? Answer yes? Question? And
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did you have your lawyer Brad Edwards there with you
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during that deposition? Answer yes. Question. Do you remember giving
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an answer to this question? Well, you know you took
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MD because she was twenty three, page one thirty one.
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Well you know, Scrolla interjects, do we have a copy
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of that deposition? Goldberger? Yeah? Do you have an extra copy?
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Page one thirty one, Brewer, I do, page one thirty one. Scrolla, Okay,
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thank you. Back to Goldberger. Ask him questions. Okay, well
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you took Do you remember being asked this question? Well,
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you know you took MD because she was twenty three?
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Your answer, I probably took about three girls of age?
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Your question you mean that they were eighteen or over?
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And your answer correct? Okay, So does that or do
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you remember having He's cut off by Courtney answer yeah,
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I know I took the one girl, Amy, but there's
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possibly a couple more. I know that everybody else that
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I took was underage. Question right? And then you went
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on to say that you took twenty to thirty girls
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allegedly who are under eighteen to mister Epstein's house scrolla, No,
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she didn't not say allegedly. The question is how many
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girls do you believe that you took under eighteen? Answer
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at least at least twenty or thirty Goldberger question and
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every one of those girls that you took to mister
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Epstein's home, whether there were of age or underage, you
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receive money for bringing them there? Did you not? Answer? Yes?
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Question okay, did you ever break into mister Epstein's home
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to burglize his home? Answer? No, I did go there
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one time, and I did never burglize his home though.
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Question well, did you enter his home without his permission? Answer? Yes,
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so I guess that would be burglarizing it. I guess
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you could say. Question okay, answer yes I did that
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one time. Question what did you do? Answer? I went
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there without his permission? Question and you entered his home?
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Answer yes? Question okay did you have someone with you
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when you did that? Answer? Yeah, I had somebody who
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drove me there. Question who was that? Answer I can't
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remember who it was? Now. Question did mister Epstein ever
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call you on the telephone? Answer yes, question okay, was
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there ever any discussion of sexual conduct during the phone calls? Answer?
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What do you mean by that? Question? Yeah? Did you
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talk about sex when he called you? Answer? No, He
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just always asked me if I had anybody to bring him.
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Question okay, did you ever call mister Epstein's home and
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speak to either mister Epstein or someone who worked for
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mister Epstein and ask for permission to come over and
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give a massage? Answer? Yes, question okay, how many times
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did you do that? Answer? I can't remember how many times?
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Question did you ever ask to introduce another girl to
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mister Epstein? Answer? Yeah. He would ask me if I
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met a girl that what wanted to come to him,
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to call and let them know his secretary or him
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or whoever answered the phone. Normally it was his secretary
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if I called. Question Any calls you made then would
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be calls to set up appointments. Right answer, right question.
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No discussion about sex? Answer right question during any of
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those phone calls. Did mister Epstein say anything that he
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was attempting to persuade or induce you or entice you
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to engage in sex? Answer no, question. Okay, did you
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ever negotiate over the phone prices or anything like that?
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Answer no question. Did you ever email with mister Epstein
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in any way? Answer no question. Did you ever have
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any kind of Internet conversation with mister Epstein? Answer no question.
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Did you ever have any text conversation with mister Epstein?
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Answer no question. Did mister Epstein ever have any email
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or internet conversations with you about bringing another person to
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his own answer no question. To give a massage I'm
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talking about? Answer right question. Did anyone either employed by
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mister Epstein or associated with mister Epstein ever email you?
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Answer no question. Did you ever travel with mister Epstein?
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Answer no question. Did mister Epstein use his own name
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when he spoke to you? Answer yeah, Jeffrey. Question didn't
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use a name like Taylor or anything like that. You
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knew you were going to his house to make money?
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Is that correct? Answer yes question? And when you were
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acting as a prostitute when you went there? Answer yes.
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Question Okay, no one forced you to go. It was
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your choice to go. Correct. Yo. I have to interject,
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she was fourteen when she was going there. She can't
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be a prostitute. And this is the whole entire basis
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for the cover story. That's why he gave the money.
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That's why when the girls brought other girls, he paid
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them so that later on down the road, if he
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got nailed, he can use it as an excuse. Oh,
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it was. They were all part of it too. That's
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why this story is what it is, because the legacy
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media and people that were covering it at the time
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covered it as prostitution, when in fact it's not prostitution,
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it's child abuse. Question. You had a choice to say
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no if you wanted to say no. Answer yes. Question.
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Was there ever any physical force that was used by
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anyone at mister Epstein's home to course you or force
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you to engage in any act? Answer no question. Did
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mister Epstein ever threaten to use physical force against you?
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Answer no question. Did mister Epstein ever use physical violence
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against you? Answer no question. Did mister Epstein ever raise
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his voice to you? Answer never? Like face to face.
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A couple of times, there was times I was supposed
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to bring a girl and the girl canceled, or the
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girl ended up not wanting to come, or something like that.
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So there were a couple of times on the phone
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where he yelled at me, like just frustrated about me
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not bringing the girl. Question okay, other than that any
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other yelling? Answer no question. When you were brought there first?
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You were brought there the first time by Tatum correct answer,
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uh huh question Tatum. Tatum Miller told you that it
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was your choice whether to take off your clothes or not.
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Answer yeah, she said that he wanted to take off
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my clothes, but I didn't have to get completely naked.
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I could keep my panties on if I wanted to.
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Question Okay, if my math is correct, and correct me
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if I'm wrong. Mister Edwards has represented you for ten
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years now? Is that correct? Answer yes? Question Okay, is
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there any time the last ten years that mister Edwards
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has not represented you? Answer no question Okay, did you
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fire him at any time? Answer no? Question. Okay did
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you ever get did he ever get you a lawyer
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on this criminal case that has you in prison right now?
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Answer no? Did he ever get you a lawyer at
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any other time? Answer no question? Okay, you knew at
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some point that he mister Edwards went to work for
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Rothstein Adler Firm. Answer yes. Question Okay, when did you
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learn that man answer one time I went to the
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law firm to meet him. I can't even remember what
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it was for. And I know that he just moved
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different law firms. But question, okay, and I'm talking about
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the law firm Rothstein, Rosenfeldt and Adler Right answer, yeah, question,
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we're talking about the same firm. Answer right. Question. And
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you went to that law firm to meet mister Edwards
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answer yeah. Question okay, and you you don't know when
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that was? Answer? No question, Okay. Who did you meet
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with when you went to the law firm? Answer? I
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just met Brad Question Brad Edwards. Answer Brad Edwards. Question.
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Did you meet any of the other people that worked there?
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Answer no, I can't remember meeting anybody else. Question did
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you meet any investigator? No question, mister Fiston, answer no question.
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Did you meet Ken Jens, who had formerly been the
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sheriff of Broward County? Answer no question. Did you meet
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any other lawyer at the Edwards at the Rostein office?
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Answer no question. Did you meet any of mister Edwards
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support staff? Answer no question. So you went there and
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you walked in the door and you just met mister
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Edwards and you didn't meet anybody else. Question. I mean,
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if I walked past other people there, they could have
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been working there. That's a possibility. But I wasn't introduced
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to anybody or didn't have a conversation with anybody else.
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Question Okay, how long were you there when you went there? Answer?
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I can't remember how long I was there? Maybe an hour?
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Question Okay, did you learn at some point that mister Epstein,
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I'm sorry that mister Edwards was sued by mister Epstein
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as being part of the Rostein firm. Scarola, excuse me,
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Goldberger without Scarrola, if any knowledge you have Goldberger, yeah,
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Scrolla continues with regard to the lawsuit by mister Epstein
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against Brad Edwards, is information that Brad Edwards communicated to
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you during the course of your attorney client relationship with Brad.
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You should not respond to that question. If you know
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anything at all about that lawsuit from the source other
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than communication with Brad, than by all means you are
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entitled to and obliged to answer that question the witness. Okay, Coldberger,
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that's correct, that's correct. Courtney. Yes, so I don't want
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to answer it, I guess question all right, So what
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you're saying is that anything you learned, you would have
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learned from mister Edwards and you didn't learn from anybody else.
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Answer right, okay, folks, We're gonna wrap up right here,
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and in the next episode dealing with the topic, were
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going to pick up where we left off. All of
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the information that goes with this episode can be found
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in the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome to
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another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're
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going to pick up where we left off with the
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Courtney Wild deposition. Question Okay, did you read anything about
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the Rothstein Ponzi scheme? Answer? Yeah, I think I seen
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it on the news when it first happened, when I
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was in West Palm Beach. Question okay, and when you
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saw it on the news, did you realize that mister
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Edwards was working for that law firm? Answer yeah, I
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think I actually called him. Question don't tell me what
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he told you? Answer okay. Question did you discuss it
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that with anybody else? Answer no? Question? Okay? Did it
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cause you to doubt his professional competence in any way?
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Answer no? Question? Okay. Did you talk to Taita Miller
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or Seana Rivera about the Rothstein Ponzi scheme. Answer, I
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can't remember. Question okay, do you know whether either one
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of those two women turnminated their relationship with mister Edwards
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as a result of the Rothstein Ponzi scheme? Answer? I
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don't think so. Question. While your estate case was pending
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in state court, were you seeking damages from mister Epstein?
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Did you know that mister Edwards also had asked to
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prepare a federal lawsuit I'm not talking about the CVRI case,
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but a separate federal lawsuit seeking damages for you against
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mister Epstein. Edwards object as the attorney client privilege to
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the extent that she knows that information only from conversations
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that she had with me. Goldberger. Sure. Question, So, other
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than conversations you had with Edwards or one of the
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other lawyers working at Rothstein Adler firm, did you know
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that mister Edwards had asked to be prepared a federal
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lawsuit that was the same lawsuit that was pending against
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mister Epstein in the state court, essentially the same claim. Answer? No, question, okay,
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do you know that he had asked to support staff
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to file or to prepare the same lawsuit in federal
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court that had been prepared on behalf of Tata Miller
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scrolla same instruction. That is, you should not answer that
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question if the source of any information, if any was
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Brad Edwards. If you obtain that information from some other
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source and you have that information in response to the question,
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you can answer it. Witness Okay, So I guess I
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shouldn't answer it then, Goldberger, Okay, that's fine. Has anyone
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shared any emails with you concerning instruction being given to
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the file or to prepare a federal lawsuit for filing?
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Answer no question. And I'm asking you specifically the time
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period just before the Rostein form fell apart and mister
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Rothstein was indicted. Answer no, Goldberger, okay. Can we just
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have a moment off the record for a second. Back
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on question, I was asking you about whether you knew
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anything about this federal lawsuit that may or may not
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been prepared. Did you ever see a federal lawsuit other
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than the CVR A case I'm not talking about that.
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Answer no question, okay. Did you ever authorize the preparation
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of a separate federal lawsuit seeking damages from mister Epstein
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in addition to the state court case? Edwards, I object,
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Attorney client privilege. Goldberger, Let me just finish the question.
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Let me finish the question. Okay, Edwards, you're talking about
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authorized to me? This is he gets cut off by Goldberger. Yeah,
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let me just finish the question. Edwards, communication with attorney again,
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cut off by Goldberger. Let me just finish the question
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then I get it. Okay. Edwards, Okay, Goldberger. Did you
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ever authorize the filing of a federal lawsuit seeking damages
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against mister Epstein that was similar or the same as
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a state case that mister Edwards had filed on your
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behalf for damages against mister Epstein. Edwards okay, And before
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you would answer, if this is communication between me and you,
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whether you to me or me to you, related to
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a legal decision that we were making at the time,
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that I'm instructing you not to answer because that could
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be invasion of the attorney client privilege. Goldberger. Okay. So
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with that instruction from your lawyer, do you want to
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answer the question or not? Courtney wild No, Goldberger, Okay.
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That's all the questions I have Now moving on to
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cross examination, mister Scarola, Miss Wilde, did you sue Jeffrey
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Epstein for having repeatedly sexually molested you because you actually
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were repeatedly sexually molested by Jeffrey Epstein. Answer yes, mister
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Goldberger object to the form Scarrola. Was there any other
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reason than the fact that Jeffrey Epstein had a repeatedly
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select excuse me, repeatedly sexually molested you that you were
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suing mister Epstein? Goldberger objected the form. Answer no, Scarola.
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Whether it was age fourteen, fifteen, or sixteen, is there
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any doubt that Jeffrey Epstein began molesting you years before
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you turn the age of eighteen? Goldberger object the form Courtney,
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There's no doubt. Yeah, he started molesting me when I
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was fourteen scrolla. And did he continue to molest you
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for years after those molestations began? Goldberger object to the
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form Courtney, Yes, Scrolla. Question, you said that there was
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approximately twenty to thirty girls that you took to Jeffrey
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Epstein's home. Right answer, right question. Why did you bring
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those girls to Jeffrey Epstein's home? Answer? I guess to
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make money because he told me you would pay me
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two hundred dollars for me and two hundred dollars for
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every girl that I brought. Question and you were in
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fact paid for the young girls that you brought to
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mister Epstein's house. Answer yes, question you also said that
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the vast majority of those girls, with the exception of
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perhaps two or three, were underage. Answer yes, question, Why
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were you bringing underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein's home? Answer
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because he wanted the girls young. There were times I
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would bring girls that looked older or were older, and
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he would just walk out. He would leave the money
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on the counter and just walk out. He wanted the
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girls young. That position began with some significant discussion about
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your involvement with criminal law. Do you recall that? Answer yes, question.
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Do you know how many of the offenses discussed today,
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brought up by mister Epstein's defense lawyer, were offenses that
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occurred while you were a juvenile? Answer there was one
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I got in trouble one time when I was a juvenile.
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Question Okay, so it was at least one of those
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offenses when you were a juvenile answer yes, Goldberger object
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to the form scrolla. There were also some discussions about
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how those offenses were disposed of. Do you know the
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difference between a guilty plea and a guilty plea of
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no contest? Answer no contest is you're not pled, You're
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not pleading admitting to it? Fully correct answer, I want
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you to assume that to be the case. Answer yeah.
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Question do you know which specific charges were disposed of
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by guilty plea as opposed to having been disposed of
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by a no contest plea? Answer no, I'm not sure.
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Question all right. Do you know that there is a
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difference between the adjudication of guilt and having an adjudication
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of guilt withheld by the court even after a plea
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of no contest? Answer right? Goldberger objection to the form
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of the question, scrolla. Do you recognize that there is
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a distinction as to whether the court adjudicates you guilty
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or withholds adjudication even after a plea of no contest
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to a criminal charge? Goldberger object to the form Courtney right.
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I know that there's a difference, and I can't even
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tell you really what the difference is Scrolla, Okay. Do
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you know whether you were adjudicated guilty or whether adjudication
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was withheld with regard to each of the circumstances that
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mister Epstein's defense lawyer described. Answer yes, I believe a
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couple of them were withheld adjudicated withheld question, Okay, you
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told us that you started using drugs in two thousand
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and two when you were fourteen, correct answer, yes. Question
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is there any doubt in your mind that your use
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of drugs began after Jeffrey Epstein began abusing you? Object
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to the form Courtney no scrola. You talked about having
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been naked in the presence of Jeffrey Epstein when you
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were fourteen years of age. Witness nods head question prior
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to having been naked in the presence of Jeffrey Epstein
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when you were fourteen, had you ever previously been naked
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in the presence of a man? Goldberger objective form the
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witness no scrola. Have you ever worked as a dancer
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or stripper before Jeffrey Epstein began paying you to permit
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him to molest you? Goldberger object to the form Courtney
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no scrolla. Had you ever had a sexual experience with
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another female before Jeffrey Epstein began paying you to permit
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him to sexually molest you? Coldberger objected the form Courtney
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no scrola. Have you ever had a drug abuse problem
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before Jeffrey Epstein began regularly paying you for sex at
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age fourteen. Goldberger objective form Courtney no scrolla. Had you
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ever been commit of a crime before Jeffrey Epstein began
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paying you at age fourteen to allow them to molest you?
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Goldberger object to form Courtney no SCROLLA. In addition to
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the twenty to thirty young girls that you personally were
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paid to bring to mister Epstein's home, are you aware
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of others who are being paid by Jeffrey Epstein while
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they were under the age of eighteen to allow Jeffrey
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Epstein to sexually molest them? Coldberger OBJECTI form Courtney, Yes, Scarola,
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can you give us an estimate as to the number
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of other girls, apart from those that you brought Scarola,
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who were being paid by Jeffrey Epstein. Goldberger objects to
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form scrola to allow Jeffrey Epstein to sexually molest them.
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Goldberger OBJECTI form answer there's so many in West Palm Beach.
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There are so many girls. Can even give you a
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number of how many Scarola? Prior to being introduced to
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Jeffrey Epstein. What type of student were you? Answer? I
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was a straight a student. Question were you involved in
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school activity? Answer yeah, I was the captain of the
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cheerleading squad. I played the trumpet. I was first your trumpet.
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Question Which high school did you go to? Answer Lakeworth?
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Middle question? Did you ever get to graduate from Lake Worth?
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Answer yeah? Question and did you go to high school?
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Answer no? In the summer of eighth to ninth grade
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is when I met Jeffrey Epstein. After that kind of
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when everything started going downhill. When I went to ninth grade,
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I just never went. I went for maybe a week
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or so, and then I even moved schools to John
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I Leonard, and I just dropped out. Question. There is
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some likelihood that this testimony will be presented to the
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jury by the way of the videotape that is being
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taken of your testimony, I would like you to tell
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the ladies and gentlemen of the jury, as best you're
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able to, how much money Jeffrey Epstein was paying you
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on an average during this period of time that you
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were being paid to bring girls to him for purposes
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of sexual molestation, and during the period of time that
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you yourself were being paid to submit to sexual molestation by Jeffrey.
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Mister Goldberger object to the form Courtney, I was being
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paid two hundred dollars for every girl. There were a
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couple of girls that looked real young that he would
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pay me three hundred dollars for bringing. But I would
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bring him a girl sometimes twice a day, really once
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a day or some others just once, but at least
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four or five times a week. So I don't know
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if you do the math on that. You know, two
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four six eight, that's at least eight hundred dollars a
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week for just one girl for four days, you know. SCROLLA.
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What were the economic circumstances of your family during this
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period of time before Jeffrey Epstein started to pay you
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those sums of money? Answer? I came from a poor family,
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you know. Question was your mom the sole support of
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the family during that period of time? Answer? She was
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a single parent. Question and did you have siblings? Answer
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a brother, But she didn't. He moved with my father's parent,
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my granda parents on my dad's side, so it was
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just me. Question Okay, so it was just you and
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your mom and she was the sole support of your household?
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Is that correct? Answer? Yes? SCROLLA object to the form
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question did she work? Answer? She worked? As a waitress.
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Question and was your mom experiencing drug problems at the
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time when you first became involved with Jeffrey Epstein. Answer yeah.
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Question describe the circumstances that led to your being introduced
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to Jeffrey Epstein. Answer there was just a couple. There
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was an incident where my mom was switching apartments and
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we were going from one apartment to another, and she
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was saving money or doing whatever she was doing. And
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that's when I kind of started sleeping over at Tatum's
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house because my mom was having issues with you know,
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with her car and just all types of stuff, so
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it was more stable for me to live at Tatum's
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or stay at Tatum's house a lot. And then when
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Tatum's dad seen, you know, that my mom was having
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a hard time and then taking care of me on
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top of you know, her just trying to survive, pay
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her bills and stuff, he allowed me to come stay
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with him. Question did there come a point in time
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when a routine developed with regard to what would happen
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once you got to Jeffrey Epstein's mansion? Coldberger object a
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form Courtney Yes scrolla. Would you describe to the jurors
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what The routine was what typically happened. Coldberger object a
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form Courtney. We would show up either he would have
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a driver come get us, or we would take a
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cab there and he would pay for it. And we
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would enter his house and we would up like off
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to his kitchen. There was like a stairwell. We'd go
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up the stairwell and like to his bedroom, through his
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bedroom and go to the bathroom. But it was like,
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you know, as big as this room, and we just
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set up the massage table, put towels on it. Scrolla.
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Let me interrupt you there for just a moment. Question
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you're speaking of we answer right, question we being picked
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up by a driver or we taking a cab there
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and Epstein's paying for the cab ride answer uh huh.
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Question was it generally more than just you alone? Answer right?
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It was either me or whoever I was bringing, or
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you know when I first went, me and Tatum, and
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sometimes he would pay me in Tatum to go back.
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Me and Tatum went together more than once, you know.
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Question Okay, so I interrupted you in your description of
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what went on. There was usually more than one girl
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there at a time. Colberger objected to form Courtney. Yes, SCROLLA.
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What happened, Courtney. So we would go upstairs and we'd
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set up the massage table and we would get undressed
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and wait for him to walk in. And he would
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walk in normally like a robe, and lay on the
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massage table, and one girl, you know, would get on
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one side of him, and I would get on the
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other side and give him a massage, like for thirty minutes,
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on each side of them, and he would take like
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phone business calls, like phone calls as we do this, SCROLLA.
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I'm going to interrupt you again for just a moment.
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You said that Jeffrey entered the room wearing a robe
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and then he got on the massage table. Courtney. Uh huh.
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Goldberger object to the form SCROLLA. Did he continue to
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wear the robe when he was on the massage table? Courtney. No,
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he would take it off and he wouldn't have any
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clothes on. All Right, we're gonna wrap up right here,
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and in the next episode dealing with the issue, we're
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gonna pick up where we left off. All of the
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information that goes with this episode can be found in
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the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome to another
28:31
episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're gonna
28:35
pick up where we left off with the Courtney Wild deposition. SCROLLA,
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did he continue to wear the robe when he was
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on the massage table? Answer? No, he would take it
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off and he wouldn't have any clothes on. SCROLLA, okay, answer,
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and we would just put like a towel over his
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butt while we massaged them. SCROLLA tell us what happened next? Answer?
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And when he was done taking his phone calls and
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stuff like that, he would flip over. And if I
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was bringing a girl, he would ask me to go
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downstairs and wait for and either he would have the
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money when he came in, he would put the money
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on the counter, or you know, I can't. That's normally
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what he would do. And so I'd go downstairs and
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I'd wait for the girl to get done, and I'd
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wait in the kitchen for her until she came down. Question.
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Were there circumstances where you were asked to participate in
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sexual activity with Jeffrey Epstein before you left the girl
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that you brought with you? Goldberger object to form Courtney. No,
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Normally he would just want one person there. I mean
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unless if like when Tatum brought me there, the first time.
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You know, I was the girl who got left in
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the room. You know, scrolla how many times, if you
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can estimate for us, were you the girl who got
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left in the room and were the one who was
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engaging in sexual activity with Jeffrey Epstein? Goldberger objected the
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form Courtney several. Goldberger object to the form Courtney. I
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can't remember how many times scrolla and Courtney several scrolla
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when there was sexual activity between you and Jeffrey Epstein?
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What occurred? Goldberger objected to the form Courtney. He would
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want me to stand next to him, and he would
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like just grab onto my grab onto my body and
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just touch my body and touch me while he jacked off,
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And he wanted me to like rub his nipples and
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stuff like that. Question all right, Was there ever a
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circumstance were you engaged in sexual intercourse with Jeffrey Epstein?
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Answer no question. Was there ever a circumstance where there
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was any oral sex between you and Jeffrey Epstein? Answer
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no question. Did Jeffrey Epstein ever make any monetary promises
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to you for any future conduct in which he wanted
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you to engage? Goldberger object to form Courtney No scrolla
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apart from his having Well, let me back up for
30:52
just a moment. Did mister Epstein, before you began bringing
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other girls to him offer you money for your bringing
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other girls to him? Answer yes. Question did you know
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how much you were going to get paid? Answer? I
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can't remember if you specified two hundred, but I just
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know that I was given two hundred dollars, so I
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think I made that conclusion, but I can't remember if
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he specified that or not. Question Other than your having
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been paid extra when you girls you brought were particularly young,
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were there any other circumstances under which the payment that
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you received varied from the straight two hundred dollars Goldberger
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object to form question No, there was a couple of times,
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like there was the time that he brought another girl,
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Like I went there by myself and he called me,
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asked me to come over there, and I went over
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there by myself, and he brought somebody I can't remember
31:41
the girl's name into the room, and he paid me
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extra to like I guess have a threesome so to
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speak with her. Question do you ever recall having met
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a girl by the name of Nadia? Answer? Yeah. Question
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and do you know whether that girl that you were
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referring to as having been brought in the room for
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a threesome was named Nadia? Answer? Yeah, that was her name.
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Question And does the last name marsen Kova mean anything
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to you? Answer? I can't remember her last name, but
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I'm sure that's it. Question Can you describe to us
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what Nadia look like? Answer? Yeah, she was really pretty blonde,
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terror she couldn't speak any English, like green eyes, tall, skinny.
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Question when you left the room leaving behind someone you
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had brought to Jeffrey's house, did you ever have any
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conversation with those young girls that you brought to mister
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Epstein's house about what went on when you left? Goldberger
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object to the form Courtney. Yeah, they would, but a
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lot of times I wouldn't want to tell them exactly
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what would happen, so I would just tell them that,
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you know, you don't have to get you can leave
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your broad panties on, and he just wants to look
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at your body and he's probably going to jack off.
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I would tell them that scrolla all right? And did
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you have conversations with any of those girls afterwards about
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what had actually happened when you left them alone? With
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Jeffrey Epstein. Goldberger object to the form, Courtney. There were
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a couple times that girls came down and they just
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looked traumatized, but they nobody. And the one girl, Amy
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that I brought another time, she was of age. She
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said something transpired between the two of them. She was
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real mad at him, but she wouldn't tell me what
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happened either. Question Okay, was there any session with Jeffrey
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Epstein in which you were involved that began as a
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massage that did not progress to sexual touching? Answer no question.
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Apart from the one circumstance that you have described with Naudia,
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were there any other circumstances where Jeffrey Epstein had you
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engage in sexual activity with any other person in his presence?
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Goldberger object to form Courtney. No, Goldberger, I'll withdraw the objection. Sorolla,
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it's too late. Now. Do you know whether there was
33:54
any other girls besides you who were being paid to
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bring underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein for purposes of sexual conduct?
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Mister Goldberger object to the form Courtney, Yes, Scrolla. Who
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else do you know of? Answer Tatum, this scrolamanda. I
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can't remember everybody's name right now. Question do you have
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any idea how many girls Tatum brought, separate and apart
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from the twenty or thirty that you brought. Answer Yes,
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she brought several. She brought way more than I did.
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Question did you ever meet a woman by the name
34:26
of Sarah Kellen? Answer yes, question and tell us about
34:31
that meeting. Goldberger object to form Courtney. She was his
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assistant and she would answer the phone, and anytime I
34:39
would go there, I would meet her. She was normally
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at a desk like working and stuff like that, but
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she was always real nice to me, just like you know,
34:47
kind of short. I didn't hang out with her or anything,
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but I met her almost every time I went there.
34:52
Scrolla was Sarah Kellen everr President in the room when
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Jeffrey Epstein was engaging in the sexual molestation of a
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young girl? Well Goldberger object to the form Courtney, No,
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never with me. No. Scrola was Sarah Kellen's position in
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the house such that young girl's entering and leaving the
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house would generally have to encounter Sarah Kellen in that
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coming and going process. Answer yes. Question did you cooperate
35:19
with the federal government in the investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.
35:23
Answer yes. Question and did you hire Brad Edwards for
35:27
the purpose of enforcing your legal rights and claims against
35:31
Jeffrey Epstein? Answer yes. Question did Jeffrey Epstein ultimately pay
35:36
you to settle your claim for damage against them? Answer yes. Question.
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Could you describe your physical appearance when you first started
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to go to Jeffrey Epstein's pom Beach mansion Goldberger object
35:47
to form Courtney, Yeah. I was fourteen years old. I
35:51
had braces on my teeth. I was just real young.
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I don't know how else to describe it, Scrola. Apart
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from submitting to sexual molestation by Jeffrey Epps, were you
36:00
providing any other services to Jeffrey Epstein? Did you clean
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his house? Did you press his clothing? Anything like that?
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Answer no, Goldberger objectiform Courtney, No, Scrola. Are you aware
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of any of the other miners who are being paid
36:15
by Jeffrey Epstein for performing any service for him other
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than submitting to his sexual molestation Goldberger objectiform Courtney, No, Scrola.
36:27
Had you had any experience in giving massages before Jeffrey
36:30
Epstein began paying you to submit to his procedure that
36:34
you have described that began with massages and led to molestation.
36:38
Goldberger objective form Courtney no scrola. Have you ever engaged
36:43
in any sale of sexual related services before Jeffrey Epstein
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began paying you to submit to sexual molestation? Mister Goldberger,
36:51
objective form Courtney, no scrola. Have you ever had access
36:55
to the kind of money that Jeffrey Epstein began to
36:57
pay you at any time before Jeffrey Epstein began to
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pay you? Answer no, Scrolla. May I just have a moment, please, Edwards.
37:06
Could we just take a quick break so they go
37:09
off the record, then they're back. Question, Miss wild you
37:12
told us that when you first began going to Jeffrey
37:15
Epstein's Bomb Beach mansion that you were still embraces at
37:17
the time. Is that correct? Answer yes, Goldberger, object to form.
37:22
I'm sorry, Scrolla. You also told us that you have
37:26
no recollection of Jeffrey Epstein ever performing oral sex on
37:29
you correct. Did there ever come to a point in
37:33
time where Jeffrey Epstein had you perform oral sex on
37:36
him and complained that about your braces interfering with that experience?
37:40
Forum answer yes, Goldberger, object to the form. Question tell
37:46
us about that, if you would please What happened? Answer?
37:50
It was after I was down massaging them, whoever walked
37:53
out of the room and he started like feeling on me,
37:57
like have me walk up. So I was like in
38:00
his arm area and he was just like jacking off
38:03
in his hand, and he asked me to give them
38:04
moral sex. So when I started to try, he then
38:07
saw me and told me that, you know, I was
38:09
hurting him or whatever. Question and is that the only
38:12
time that that happened that one time that you can recall? Answer? Yes.
38:17
Question as you look back on all of the things
38:19
that we unfortunately have been required to ask you about
38:22
during the course of this deposition, how do you feel
38:25
about that? Goldberger? Object to form Courtney. It makes me
38:30
just feel I just feel ashamed. I feel ashamed. I
38:33
really feel shame. I can't even really put all my
38:36
emotions into words right now how I feel? You know? Scrolla,
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all right, thank you. I don't have any further questions, Courtney,
38:44
thank you. Quick redirect by Goldberger. Question your mother had
38:50
a drug problem before you had any kind of involvement
38:52
with mister Epstein. Correct answer, Yeah, Goldberger, That's all I have.
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Videographer This concludes the deposition of Courtney E Wilde. The
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time is approximately one point thirty pm and we are
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off the record. All right, folks, that's going to do
39:08
it for the Courtney wild deposition. But have no fear.
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