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I Hope So - PART 2 (S5 E1 "Say Goodbye to Daisy Miller") · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in. Oh, I am all in with
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  Speaker 1: Scott Patterson an I Heeart radio podcast. All right, hey, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: he's Scott Patterson animal in podcast part two of Say
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  Speaker 1: Goodbye to Daisy Miller. We are we are running running
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  Speaker 1: hot in the mouth, as they say, as we haven't
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  Speaker 1: gotten very part in the episode, but we have a
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  Speaker 1: lot to say about it, a lot better language. Dean's
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  Speaker 1: a butt log in this next scene. He's a real
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  Speaker 1: poople head stop it. Can I say he's a man
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  Speaker 1: and he's confused? No, he was, He is not a man.
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  Speaker 1: He is a little boy himself. Later, but he was mean.
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  Speaker 1: He was so mean to Lindsay. He cut them out
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  Speaker 1: with a smile. You answered my phone. He's so mad.
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  Speaker 1: I wrote jerk, jerk, and he's like, you don't get it,
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  Speaker 1: do you? You have no respect? And it's like, Dean,
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  Speaker 1: you literally just slept with someone. He's projecting how she
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  Speaker 1: should feel about him, you know what I mean, Like
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  Speaker 1: what I wrote, he feels terrible, he feels like he
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  Speaker 1: wants to get out of that relationship. He feels guilty
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  Speaker 1: as hell, and he should. He feels awful. He's you know,
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  Speaker 1: and that's a little bit of hayten On Lindsay, because
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  Speaker 1: he's in this situation. He's angry at himself for being
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  Speaker 1: in this situation. He's in a marriage he doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: to be in and he just did something he shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have done. I have a question for you that. So
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  Speaker 1: he's angry at himself and he's angry at her, and
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  Speaker 1: he's angry at the world, and that's how it comes out,
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  Speaker 1: you know. You know, in the last episode, we discuss
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  Speaker 1: how that opening scene was from Dean's perspective, and we
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  Speaker 1: saw at the end of that opening scene that Dean
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  Speaker 1: is outside the door and Lorala goes like he's married,
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  Speaker 1: and he gets upset and he you know, runs back home.
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  Speaker 1: How do you think him coming back home would have been?
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  Speaker 1: Like if Loralai said said something like I'm happy for
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  Speaker 1: you that it was Dean, Like, how do you think
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  Speaker 1: that would have changed? Because I do feel when Lorelai
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  Speaker 1: said that, like, but he's married, because that's when he
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  Speaker 1: decided to storm off. Is really what ticked him off.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think about that until you just said it.
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  Speaker 1: But part of me is like, I think he's mad
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  Speaker 1: that he went he got married, Like I think he's mad.
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  Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, and let's not forget how
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  Speaker 1: much he loved Rory when they were first dating. And yes, man,
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  Speaker 1: he built her a car. He Rory has always been
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  Speaker 1: his all and everything, always always, and his heart got shattered.
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  Speaker 1: He was devastated when she dumped him, and we all
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  Speaker 1: knew this was a bad idea getting married. We all
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  Speaker 1: knew it. And now he's got her back. And listen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not advocating for adultery. It's awful, it's terrible, it's painful,
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  Speaker 1: but let's not forget story wise how I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: never fallen out of love with her, and he's that's true,
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  Speaker 1: to get past it. And he met somebody else and
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  Speaker 1: he attempted to do this and start a new life
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  Speaker 1: because he accepted it. But now you know, it got reignited.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not let's not cream this guy, you know, for
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  Speaker 1: being a human being. You know, he's he got he
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  Speaker 1: got weak, he did a dumb thing, a hurtful thing. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and there's always redemption, right, I mean, we can't judge
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  Speaker 1: this guy. I agree, he can totally be redeemed. But
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  Speaker 1: let's see how what he does next, right, because right now,
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  Speaker 1: throughout this episode, I'm more pissed because look, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: break it down. But first I get the scene of
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  Speaker 1: Dean being a total ass, right, and he's just awful
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  Speaker 1: to Lindsay. Then I get the scene where Rory needs
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  Speaker 1: to talk to him, and there they are at Miss
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  Speaker 1: Patties and they're trying to have a conversation with suddenly
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  Speaker 1: they're doing it again. Then I get the scene of
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  Speaker 1: now she's made him the pot roast or whatever it is,
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  Speaker 1: and it's the it's the Warden June Cleaver over there,
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  Speaker 1: just all happy and in love, and I'm just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what is going on? Dean is a mess. He's in
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  Speaker 1: a bad spot. He got himself in a bad Spotty
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  Speaker 1: got he got. He fell in love with Rory Gilmore,
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  Speaker 1: fell hard, never fell out of love, accepted defeat, he
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  Speaker 1: put his best foot forward. He's a sensitive, sweet, considerate,
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  Speaker 1: caring guy. I mean, what an example of a great boyfriend.
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  Speaker 1: And then they sort of downgraded, Oh, he's a great
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  Speaker 1: first boyfriend. He's not for you, he's not going to Yale,
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  Speaker 1: he's not Ivy League, he's not this you know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, you know what, maybe that's exactly what
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  Speaker 1: she needed because they she loves him and they have
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  Speaker 1: a real chemistry and they I mean they it's like
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  Speaker 1: they should be together, if that's how they feel they
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  Speaker 1: should be together. Sure, he was a great boyfriend to Rory.
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  Speaker 1: He's an atrocious husband. Atrocious Okay. So so you think
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  Speaker 1: present behavior dictates a future behavior you think he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: think if you think if he was with Rory and
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  Speaker 1: they got married and everything was well, he's a great question.
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  Speaker 1: That's a really good question. I don't I think he'd
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  Speaker 1: be upset he if he if he managed to marry her,
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  Speaker 1: to be worthy enough of a Gilmore to marry I
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  Speaker 1: mean without a degree from the Ivy League and acceptable
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  Speaker 1: to Richard and Emily in their DNA. You know, if
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  Speaker 1: he if he managed to crawl out of his slime
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  Speaker 1: and be accepted, you know, by the Guildmars, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he would have stayed true to her his whole life.
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  Speaker 1: That I think You're right. Marriages it was they are
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  Speaker 1: so good together and he is so But you know
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  Speaker 1: what's funny, I think Rory would find herself in dean situation. Yeah, yeah, Danielle, correct,
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  Speaker 1: say again, say again, sorry. I think Rory would find
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  Speaker 1: herself in Dean situation where she's an atrocious wife to
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  Speaker 1: him because he doesn't fill her cut. Let's not forget
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  Speaker 1: why they broke up, you know. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: she likes the idea of him. I don't think she's
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  Speaker 1: still in love with him, you guys, she said it herself.
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  Speaker 1: She feels safe around him, and that's what she needs
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  Speaker 1: right now, like she needs safety. So she's strong, very
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  Speaker 1: solved to a life. I think. So. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: we're a few short episodes away from meeting Okay, okay, listen,
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  Speaker 1: listen how many times I have to remove my camp Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. Y'all make really good points in that. I
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  Speaker 1: think you're both right. I think you're right, Scott that
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  Speaker 1: he would have been an amazing husband to Rory, even
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  Speaker 1: even as young, even if they got married young. And
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  Speaker 1: I think Danielle's right that Rory wouldn't she would have
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  Speaker 1: stuck it out. She wouldn't have stuck it out with
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  Speaker 1: she she she didn't with Jess, meaning she didn't stick
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  Speaker 1: it out with Dean. When Jess rolled in. Now, she
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  Speaker 1: wasn't exactly as doing what Dean's doing, but like no,
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  Speaker 1: she fell for Jess. It was still pretty bad. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: like for for high school terms. You know, like they're
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  Speaker 1: a little bit older, so it's the stakes are higher.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, like she was, she was still like
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  Speaker 1: sneaking around with Jess. Yeah, you're right, yeah, yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: I it's just hard for me to suddenly, now that
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  Speaker 1: we get to see Lindsay in a better light, you know,
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  Speaker 1: now have all the sympathy for It's just like it
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  Speaker 1: just feels too contrived for me. It's like set her
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  Speaker 1: up better for me, makes the conflict, make make it
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  Speaker 1: harder for those two to get together and allow me
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  Speaker 1: to feel you know this, this this trepidation and this
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  Speaker 1: anxiety that that Rory and Dean are getting together. It's
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  Speaker 1: like I've been feeling this before they hooked up, like
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  Speaker 1: I have been feeling somebody for for Lindsay for the
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  Speaker 1: last at least four episodes, all right, she wasn't developed,
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  Speaker 1: there was much of her, and when she didn't see her,
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  Speaker 1: she was being kind of antagonistic and impatient. She was
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  Speaker 1: she was antagonistic Scotts, right, But then even when she
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  Speaker 1: was trying, she was like just trying so hard to
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  Speaker 1: make the perfect tune of sandwich instead of really like
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  Speaker 1: develop the relationship and like her mom was way too
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  Speaker 1: involved there, and I feel like Dean didn't help Dean
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  Speaker 1: didn't help her. He's like, oh, like Lindsay wants me
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  Speaker 1: to work so she can get Like he didn't paint
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  Speaker 1: her in the best light either. Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I sniffed through Dean's comments like that means there's something
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  Speaker 1: deeper going on behind the scenes at the Lindsay Dean
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  Speaker 1: house that ain't so great. No, that's that's how I
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  Speaker 1: read it. I said, this, this marriage is terrible. All
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  Speaker 1: they do was fight totally what I got out of it.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the information I got at the very land scene.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not fight. All we do was fight, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because yeah, you're right, you know it's but that's because
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  Speaker 1: Dean's a grumpasaurus around her, Like all he does is
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  Speaker 1: grumpy and is like I'm working when he's banging another chick. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So so there's here's here's the question. This Gilmore Girls debuts,
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  Speaker 1: you know, four years ago, and this is season five
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  Speaker 1: and this day and age with cancel culture, do you
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  Speaker 1: think this show gets a different reaction than it got
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  Speaker 1: back then. Do you think that this stuff is even
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  Speaker 1: written into the script. Do you think that the fan
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  Speaker 1: base reacts in the same way. How do you think
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  Speaker 1: they react? I think it'd be written the same way. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: how do you think it'd be received? Though? That's a question.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm processing. It's a really good it's a really
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  Speaker 1: good question. When did when did we become as a
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  Speaker 1: society so judgmental of everybody else's actions. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: we've been doing that. It's a tale as old as time.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't everybody all judge on Elizabeth Taylor back in the
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  Speaker 1: day when she when her guy was married to Debbie Reynolds.
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  Speaker 1: To me, it's all the same. Yeah, everybody's been always
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  Speaker 1: like this, and everybody loves to just have social media. Now,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna say. It's like you can go
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter and tweet like, you know, last week's episode
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  Speaker 1: of Gilmore Girls, this happened. I didn't like it. And
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  Speaker 1: it's like, I think the broader que right, you're exactly so,
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  Speaker 1: I think the broader Questions has social media enough that
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  Speaker 1: we're going a little off the right rank. But what
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  Speaker 1: kind of an effect does social media have on the
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  Speaker 1: artistic choices of writers and studios and networks About the
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  Speaker 1: content they put in their shows. Let me throw that
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  Speaker 1: thing to you, just like this. In nineteen ninety three,
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  Speaker 1: people were up in arms over Kelly Dylan Brenda on
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  Speaker 1: nine two one zero, losing their minds. I'm team Kelly,
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  Speaker 1: I'm team Brenda. I mean it was venomous hate. So
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  Speaker 1: to me, people just love watching shows and sort of
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  Speaker 1: having their input about these characters. So I would say
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  Speaker 1: if it was today, I think I would feel the
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  Speaker 1: same way because I look, I like Rory and Dean together.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even mad they're kind of doing it at
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  Speaker 1: Miss Patti's although it's not great. I think my feelings
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  Speaker 1: today would be exactly how they were twenty years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's more of a in
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  Speaker 1: today's society. It's more of a conversation because of social media,
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  Speaker 1: Like you can have that back and forth with people,
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  Speaker 1: when back then you'd call your friend and be like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, you watched last night's episode. You have
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  Speaker 1: the conversation. Hang up doesn't come yet? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I know. That's the one thing is the
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  Speaker 1: conversations live on forever. Now you can always go back
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  Speaker 1: and revisit it. There's always people chiming in. Yeah, a
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  Speaker 1: month later, you know, well, Jean Jean's character who got
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  Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't say left at the altar, but almost.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he was ready to trying to lock her
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  Speaker 1: down for life. That was his girl, he wanted to
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  Speaker 1: have babies with her, and that he wasn't looking anybody else.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, you know, so if you will indulge me
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  Speaker 1: to an abrupt conversation, change going back to Luke and
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  Speaker 1: let's go back to Kirk's rear end. Yeah, speak, I
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  Speaker 1: so where do you all stand? And I actually I
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  Speaker 1: love that Suky did go to Lorelai and tell her
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  Speaker 1: that she knew. I don't think she could have held
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  Speaker 1: that in and I don't even think that would have
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  Speaker 1: been the right thing to do. I love that she says,
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to die alone. I love that whole
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  Speaker 1: scene too. I think your right, Scott, that Melissa was
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  Speaker 1: such an important glue in this episode. I love that
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  Speaker 1: she thought they had sex on the table is what
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  Speaker 1: Luke couldn't do. Yeah, I would have gone to my
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  Speaker 1: best friend too, So I feel like it was it
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  Speaker 1: just made sense. Yeah, I agree, and it also okay,
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  Speaker 1: so then we're going to have another parallel speaking of
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  Speaker 1: best friends, which will we get too. I am irritated.
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  Speaker 1: I will say the only thing irritating me in this
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  Speaker 1: episode is really Rory doubling tripling down, being so kind
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  Speaker 1: of mad at Laurel over what Rory did. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: can they not make up? Lorelie is trying so hard,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about it, or it's just you you you know,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just like that part. I'm a little Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she's being a little a little braddy. I do remember
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  Speaker 1: being that age, and like, I mean, I understand like
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  Speaker 1: Lorelye and Rory are best friends, but like I remember
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  Speaker 1: being that age being like I don't want to talk
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  Speaker 1: to your mom about this, like please leave me alone. Also,
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  Speaker 1: she it's fair for you, but it seems un Rory
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  Speaker 1: and Laurel. Yeah, I think it's also like it's her.
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  Speaker 1: She just finished her freshman year of college. She was
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  Speaker 1: living on her own. Now she's back, and maybe she
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  Speaker 1: has this like different perspective of like I'm an adult
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  Speaker 1: and I can make my own decisions, but Laura la
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  Speaker 1: still try to like mother her in a sense. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right, well we'll keep it that but Scott, let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about the scene with you on the phone at
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  Speaker 1: the diner, and you go back into your stock room
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  Speaker 1: and Lorela hides in the closet with the dog, and
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  Speaker 1: you have that conversation that's sort of starting to go
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  Speaker 1: in a weird direction. And then well, I think Laurel says,
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  Speaker 1: we kissed. This is one of favorite scene. It was
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  Speaker 1: a great kiss. You concur like we It took us
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  Speaker 1: a second with the get moving in the but we
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  Speaker 1: got there and we have this amazing conversation and she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't want to forget it. What's what's your question? Just
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  Speaker 1: what did you think of that scene? Um? Cute? You
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  Speaker 1: know the culmination of dreams, right, it's it's Luke's car
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  Speaker 1: times ten times ten. Oh, I mean it was Luke
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  Speaker 1: in that scene. I mean seeing Laurela opened to it
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  Speaker 1: and vulnerable in that way towards Lucas. You know, that's
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  Speaker 1: four years of coming or eight years a coming. It
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  Speaker 1: might be hard for you to see it because you
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  Speaker 1: are Luke. But I think, as like a fan, this
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  Speaker 1: is where I'm just like Lucas the guy, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because he's so cute, he's so charming, but he's such
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  Speaker 1: a good guy. Yeah. I'm probably the least qualified person
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  Speaker 1: on the planet to opine on this. It's like because
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  Speaker 1: this is where but I didn't watch it as a
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  Speaker 1: fan over the last twenty three years and store up
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  Speaker 1: all these feelings and towards it or because of it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm myself from this. Ask good other fans, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: fans can chime in and tell me if they relate.
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  Speaker 1: But I think because I'm very close in age to Loreli, right, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just a bit younger, so I really related, going
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  Speaker 1: like I want a looke? Where's my looke? Like? And
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  Speaker 1: he really is guy. Yeah. And I loved in this
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  Speaker 1: scene that they were both so busy right, like, lord,
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  Speaker 1: I was busy with Taylor's shoe getting chewed up by
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  Speaker 1: this dog. Luke is dealing with the craziness of the diner,
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  Speaker 1: and they both like hide in the little closet and
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  Speaker 1: are like giddy, like I don't know how to explain it,
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  Speaker 1: but that's like a high school scene, you know, And
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  Speaker 1: then they set up a date for tonight, Like what
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  Speaker 1: about tonight? I was just like Luke boss reminds me
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  Speaker 1: of those like when I was I don't know, first dating,
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  Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen, whatever, you have a crush on a girl,
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  Speaker 1: and the big deal was like calling the girl, yeah
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  Speaker 1: right hoping, don't answer right hoping, And you know we
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  Speaker 1: got those rotary phones, so you're dialing the number and
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  Speaker 1: it's ringing, and you talked to her, and yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of what it felt like. I just think one
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  Speaker 1: of my things about Luke and I Love is like,
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  Speaker 1: Luke is not pulling some dumb guy crap. He calls
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  Speaker 1: her right away. He's like tonight, Like even when he
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  Speaker 1: walked her home and they have that sort of romantic
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  Speaker 1: magic pull moment, he's like, let's go to the movies.
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  Speaker 1: He's not playing games right now, but he's not. He's
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  Speaker 1: being pushy without being pushy. He's moving, he's moving the
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  Speaker 1: ball forward without being obnoxious about it exactly. He's he's
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  Speaker 1: like not being how some guys are. Oh, I better
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  Speaker 1: wait three days to call her shop. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: men really need that book. If the Going Girls like
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  Speaker 1: creators are really smart, they would have published that book.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's really smart. Like the next time they
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: do something on the lot, it's like exclusive of the book.
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  Speaker 1: But they wouldn't want have done that. Then my character
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  Speaker 1: would have been ramped up to her to pay me more.
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  Speaker 1: Than and okay, we're talking about We're talking about Luke
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  Speaker 1: and Lorel, even though we're going out of order a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, but it makes sense. Again, Luke does the
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  Speaker 1: right He's always getting it right because even though he
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  Speaker 1: gets called out of town because Liz is hurt and
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  Speaker 1: she got he's got to go take care of Liz
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  Speaker 1: and TJ. Not only does he call her five times
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  Speaker 1: and leave all the messages because he's such a good dude,
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  Speaker 1: he got a cell phone. A cell phone because he's
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  Speaker 1: now in a relationship where somebody needs to be able
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: to reach him. Well, he's he's joined the modern world
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: where he's he wants to communicate, he wants to communicate. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: And I really Luke is a real likable dude and
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: he always has been, but now he's just full a
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: game where you're just like this guy. That's why you
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: make greatest kisses of all time on television. It's not
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: just the kiss. Yeah, I thought I was going No,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: that's not who the characters were up to the kiss,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: and then after the kiss, because it wouldn't be a
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: great kiss if he suddenly dumped her the next day.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: So I have two questions why does Rory use the payphone?
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank you so much for bringing that up,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: because I literally thought for five seconds she was going
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: to call Jess and because that's what she uses to
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: call Jess. Yeah, but then I thought about it. She
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: didn't want Lindsay to call back because Lindsay's answering his phone.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: She didn't want him to call back, and I talked too.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: It's like she doesn't. I mean, I don't remember if
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: there was caller I d back then, but there must
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: have been from the cell phone. They're probably from the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: cell phone to cell phone. Yeah, so that was interesting.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: And did you all notice that Dean is fully wearing
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: his ring, his wedding ring, addies Yes, yep, yep, so bad.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: It's bad. Then we go to the scene that I
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: quite like with Lane, where I thought the Lane Rory
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: sort of conversation was exactly how two best friends at
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: that age would talk. Lane's a great friend. She's really
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: not coming with judgment. She's coming with like understanding and
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: wanting to have that conversation and how was it? And
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: you know, Rory says he's married, and she says, I know,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: you know, she's very empathetic sympathetic all the things. She
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: was like excited with her, but then also was like
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I need to rationalize this a bit, and like you know,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: and I love how she had the band practice on hold,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: like this is a nine one one best friend emergency
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and they start playing and she gets mad. They really
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: that seemed again, very like how two best friends are. Yeah,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: got news for you. That's how you get kicked out
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: of a band right there. You start pulling that BIS
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: and it's like you're gone. They'll replace you. They were
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: irritated by it. Well they should be. I mean, that's
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: band practice time. That's sacred man. And Lane doesn't want
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: her to talk to Loralai, but it's not an option.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: All I have to say is where the heck is
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: missus Kim, because they needed some laughs at that point. Yeah.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Well we go from that back to the end where
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Emily just showed up for lunch, which actually I did
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: at I did too, because the whole you left. Well,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: so I was hoping for a less than frightened reaction
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: because I knew that was coming, and I was praying like,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: don't do that, Please don't do that. Just look at her,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: it'll be please don't and then when it came, it
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: came bigger than I dreaded. I mean, it was just
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: a fair criticism. It was it was like you saw
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: her there, I just just look, just look at her,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: and that's enough. That's enough. So then we get we
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: sort of get to that outdoor lunch, which I thought
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: was beautiful, like I would love to have a nice
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: chicken salad sandwich there. But and she says the obvious, like,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: oh thanks, captain, obvious that you're separated. And then what
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: did you think about Lorelie sort of setting up Rory
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: on the going on the Europe trip? Well, I mean,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I think, on its face, it's a very good idea.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, minus the Dean stuff that wasn't even going on,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: it would have still been a great idea. And even
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: if she was with you know, let's say she was
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: with a guy and they were having a great summer.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Still a great idea to grow to grandma, to go
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: to Europe. I mean, what what memories for a lifetime. Yeah, yeah,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it's funny because I actually did go
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: to Europe with my grandma after my freshman year of college.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Me just me and my grandma, who went to Ireland
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: and England, and so I was thinking. I was like,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: she's an adult now she can go without her mom
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: and like still her grandma, you know. So I for me,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't think too much of it because I had
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: that experience. Um. But knowing Laurelie, she always wants to
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: do everything with Rory, so I think it was hard
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: for her to like give her that push, even though
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: she knows she has to just for Rory to be independent, like,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: if you want to go, you can go. Yeah. I
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: think I think Laurel I's trying to do the right thing,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you know, by her own life, and maybe she feels
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: she needs a little distance and her daughter needs to
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: spread her wings, and this is just part of it.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: It's difficult for her because she's such a she's still
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: a helicopter mom and the Rory's been out of the
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: house for you know, a year. Am I interpreting this correctly?
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: That there was a phone call that we are to
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: assume is Dean calling Rory's cell phone? And she denies, yeah,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: well sure, yeah, yeah, we don't know who it is.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I do as I agree. She saw Lindsay. So she
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: saw Lindsay in the store telling them how important this
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: dinner is that she's making. And I think that also
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: hit home for Rory, going this guy's not he's not
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: leaving her yet or or ever for as far as
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Rory knows, like he's married. Yeah right, paper he is,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: you know, not in it's hard, no, but not in
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: its hard at the store preparing for this very important dinner.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: So what do you think, Scott about the fact that
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Lindsay obviously worked all day on that dinner, that Dean's
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: there and eats it and he it's delicious, and she's
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: so happy and he's smiling and happy and kind of her.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: What do you think about Dean in that maybe maybe
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Rory is somebody to be avoided because she seems to
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: like take over boy's brains and just scrambles their brains
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and controls them and destroys their lives. I mean, look
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: at poor Dean, look at Jess. I mean, look, it's
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: just and everybody's a mess that comes into contact. I mean,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: you know, like like fatally wrong, I mean total what's
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: the virtue with being involved with the Rory Gilmore? What
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: is the virtue there? Really? I mean, what are these
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: guys getting out of this? She's non committals, she's condescending,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: she's very sweet in the process of doing it. I
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: just think she's very confused and she just, you know,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: she's maybe I don't know. Is she emotionally unprepared to
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: deal with any of this stuff for us? Are we
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: just expecting too much too soon for somebody at that age.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Here's my question for the three of you. Who is
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: more wrong now? Not not last night when it but
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: now we're a couple days later, maybe one, maybe two?
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Is Rory wrong? Is Dean wrong? No? I think Dean
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: is always going to be way more wrong. Yeah, I
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: do agree. I do think. I do think Rory had
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: a fault in last night. But it also was very
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: bad that she then did it again after thinking about it,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: so like the double repeat was not good. Um, but yeah, Dean,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Dean is the one that's falling on the sword. Also,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I was thinking, remember when they fell asleep and miss
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Patty is like a play it's a place for them. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: A'm shocked no one saw them. Next question, whose got
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: the guts to dial this phone number? Oh? What Luke's number?
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I'll call it, yeah and ask for Luke. Yeah. The
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: fact that it wasn't a five five five. I was like,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: oh my god, oh daniel speaker, But what do I
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: say when I answer? It is Luke? Okay, say it's Laurel.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: To be quiet. I'm nervous. I'm not gonna crank calling.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: And I just please thank your message for see if
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: he calls us back, just says say Danielle. Say it's
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: we're calling Danielle. Somebody with guts. Call again. You don't
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: call again. I'm gonna call and say, hey, Luke, this
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: is Luke. What are you doing with my number? Okay,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try calling again. But you know what's crazy
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: is it's a number from Connecticut. Like it's actually that
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: would make sense. It's the same yeah, but like they
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: actually did. There's no way she could have just put
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Amy meaning Amy Sherman Palladino could have just put a
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: number like that. I'm surprised the voicemail didn't say hey,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: it's Luke, that they just got the number. Oh my god,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I'm sweating. I don't know why this. It makes me
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: so diarrheal, like I'm so nervous. I don't know. I've
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: never made crank calls. When I did, I did im
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: out is your refrigerator running? Hi? My name is Danielle.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I work with iHeartRadio. I'm calling on behalf of the
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I Am All In podcast. Um it's a Goma girls podcast.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure you get this like a million times,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: but um, this number was displayed in one of the episodes,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: and I was just curious if you get called all
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the time and have people asking if Luke is there? Um,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: so yeah, if you don't mind giving me a callback,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I would love to discuss. Thank you, Danielle, you did
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: good jobs. You sounded she's sweating. God, that's funny. That
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: was really good. District Attorney for the state of Connecticut.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: We'll think about it, like we just started watching this
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: what we watched this episode? And how many podcast listeners
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: do we have? Everyone's now watching this episode. There has
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: to be other people who have thought the same thing
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: and possibly even tried. We have hundreds of thousands of people. Yeah.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: The other thing that was weird. It was weird to
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: see someone holding a phone while driving. I was like,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: that's illegal. Yeah, this kind of guy. Lucas Man, I'm
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: not for love, but I love the last line. Hell
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: of a test run second go round about the inn right. Oh,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: so good? So good? It's so good? Um, I mean question,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: can I I need to ask a question here? How
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: did Kirk sustain his buttocks injury? And what was specifically
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: the injury? Rose Bush got the thorns pickles? No, she said,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I think I meant to say rose prickles. Oh that
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: sounds about right? Is that those are called thorns? Right? Right? Right?
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I do have one scene I do want to bring up,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: just an honorable background actor mentioned because it was just
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: it literally made me ll Ivery want like five times. Um.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I just told Jackie to pull it up, and I'm
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: not sure if she's if she can find that scene
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: that quick enough? Was it? My favorite line, call me
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Belinda because my litt sealed. We have to talk about
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: that in pop culture. So good. My favorite line was
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: you've turned us into the scandal of the neighborhood from Emily.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Mine was the one I said earlier with Richard and
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Emily's banter. Ye is it just a whole episode? Was it?
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Everybody rate the episode? Oh? Gosh, yeah, go ahead, Tara,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I have to pick. I know I'm more concerned what
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: item I'm I'm giving? All right? What's yeah? Yeah, the
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: measuring six. My favorite part start nine point eight five
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Lindsay's brownies. Oh, it's an almost perfect episode for me.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I got a jumped ahead. Sorry, Targo. I'll
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: go with nine point five Emily's skirts. Funny, funny ten
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: latigra polos. You know you know, if you know you know? Um, oh,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: you're giving it a ten. Eh. I'm gonna go with
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: a nine niner point fiver. Um. I agree with Danielle nine.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna deduct point fiver for the demolition on the
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Gilmore House. Um, the to get the Richard and Emily house. Um,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give it nine point fiver. Uh. Luke's pullovers. Okay,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: brown sweaters. I like it. Jackie. Do you have the scene?
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: M Oh, look at the maid. She gives the biggest
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: eye roll of the century. Oh, you can't really tell
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: on that, but that's a great shot. This is such
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: a Yeah, that's such a great shot. Richard stepping in
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: the door closing. That is that's from the golden age
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: of filmmaking. That shot when it's not like pixelated. She
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: literally does a whole upwards eye roll and I was
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, I love her all right,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: that's gonna wrap up Part two. Um and listen, gang,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be at just letting you know. I'm gonna
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: be at the Louisville Comic Con or Louisville Pop Con.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I think it's June sixteen through eighteen, Louisville, Kentucky, and
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I hope to see everybody there. I'm excited. I've never
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: been to Louisville. I hear it's a fantastic place and
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to example some of its cuisine. I
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: was gonna say, what are they known for post con? Uh,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: well we'll find out. But anyway, thanks for downloaded. Thank you, Amy,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Danielle Tara Um all the best best fans on the planet.
• 35:27
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