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Why are ALL of our Algorithms... different? · Johnjay & Rich On Demand

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  Speaker 1: Dating is hard enough, but now we've got the algorithm
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  Speaker 1: to influence us. So Cosmo had a really interesting take
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  Speaker 1: on dating and our Instagram algorithm, our TikTok algorithm. We
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  Speaker 1: are constantly seeing cheating stories, red flag videos, nightmare dates,
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  Speaker 1: dump him content. And it can actually start shaping like
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  Speaker 1: how we see relationships and how we see relationships. things
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  Speaker 1: that happen in relationships. And they put together this whole
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  Speaker 1: thing of things that the algorithm has made more negative
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  Speaker 1: and isn't necessarily a negative thing in dating.
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  Speaker 2: So the first one, actually, I totally agree with.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't get a text back right away, that
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  Speaker 1: means they're not interested. According to the algorithm, you might
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  Speaker 1: think that, right? Because you've seen all the stories. You've
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  Speaker 1: seen all the soft stories about all these people. And
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  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you're like, well, maybe it doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: Mean they've lost interest.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they're just like slammed at work and they did
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  Speaker 1: that thing that we've all done before where you look
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I really want to respond to that,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm busy right now.
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  Speaker 3: I'll do it later.
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  Speaker 1: And then forgot for a little while.
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  Speaker 2: Not everybody's attached to their phone.
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  Speaker 3: It's such an important thing to remember, try to remember
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  Speaker 3: what the other person is doing that, They might not
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  Speaker 3: be able to answer.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they fell asleep.
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  Speaker 1: They could have fallen asleep. But that's what the Cosmo
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  Speaker 1: is saying. But because the algorithm has filled our head
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  Speaker 1: with so many negative things in dating, we just automatically assume, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: he's probably just not interested anymore. Then treating every flaw
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  Speaker 1: like a red flag. Every flag isn't a red flag.
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  Speaker 2: Some are.
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  Speaker 1: Some definitely are, right?
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  Speaker 3: But you could have one or two red flags and
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  Speaker 3: 75 green flags, and that's okay. That works out because
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  Speaker 3: everybody's got red flags.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, listen, I know he's a pathological liar, right?
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  Speaker 2: That's a big red flag. How can I make that
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  Speaker 2: pathological liar?
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  Speaker 1: But the good news is I know when he's lying.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It's like murder is a red flag.
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  Speaker 3: But maybe leaving the whiskers in the sink is a
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  Speaker 3: red flag, and you can.
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  Speaker 2: Deal with that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So then they say diagnosing everyone as avoidant or narcissistic.
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  Speaker 1: This is a huge thing.
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  Speaker 2: Those are buzzwords big time, right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is huge.
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  Speaker 1: The algorithm says everyone's a narcissist, everyone's avoidant, right? But
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  Speaker 1: it's not necessarily always the case. Now, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that these aren't out there, that these aren't real things
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  Speaker 1: that happen in relationships, but Cosmo is basically saying that
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  Speaker 1: because of our algorithm, we're We see this a lot more,
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  Speaker 1: maybe even more than it actually is happening. Like thinking
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  Speaker 1: a relationship is boring because it isn't dramatic. That might
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  Speaker 1: actually just mean you have a healthy relationship.
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  Speaker 6: Like that's okay to feel secure a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: The relationship isn't boring because you are not constantly fighting
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  Speaker 1: or having crazy things happen to you guys. For instance,
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  Speaker 1: comparing your partner to strangers online. That can be that
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  Speaker 1: the algorithm just pushes that, right? expecting cheating because your
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  Speaker 1: feed is full of cheating stories. This is a big
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  Speaker 1: one because I like, if you've ever been cheated on,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of hard in a relationship when you see
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  Speaker 1: something kind of shady to.
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  Speaker 3: Go, obviously they're cheating.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Because we've seen this happen over and over again.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You just see conclusions.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Because you're like, I've seen this movie before.
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  Speaker 1: And we've seen it time and time again on War
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  Speaker 1: of the Roses. Like it's not always the case.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But still, once a cheater, always a cheater. Well, not
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  Speaker 2: always the.
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  Speaker 7: Case, right?
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  Speaker 1: And then finally, asking TikTok, what's your partner behavior really means?
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  Speaker 1: Like TikTok doesn't know what your partner's behavior really means.
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  Speaker 2: It's TikTok.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good point. So what you say actually is
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  Speaker 3: like you started off by saying if you're dating. So
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  Speaker 3: because you're dating, you're seeing and you're probably spending more
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  Speaker 3: than two seconds on one video, which means all time.
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  Speaker 3: the relationship TikToks and Instagram reels are coming your way.
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  Speaker 2: That's what your feed gives you.
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  Speaker 3: And that's your algorithm because you're doing that. So you're seeing,
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  Speaker 3: and if you see a negative one, you're just getting
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  Speaker 3: nonstop negative ones. You know, I'm glad you brought this up.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to switch gears if I may.
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  Speaker 2: I would love to.
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  Speaker 3: I want to bring up what your algorithm now is
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  Speaker 3: because of something you clicked on by accident or for
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  Speaker 3: a second. You were just interested in it.
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  Speaker 2: For a second.
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  Speaker 5: So you think because of the algorithm, the whole world's
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  Speaker 5: following this thing because it's everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Like I've had conversation. Actually, I've had conversations with Rich
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  Speaker 3: in the past. It's about in the morning. We're going
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  Speaker 3: to we come in here. We're going to talk about
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  Speaker 3: we're going to do on the show that day. And
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  Speaker 3: he'll go, this is blowing up. And I'm like, I
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  Speaker 3: don't I don't see it. And it's because that's his algorithm.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: That's what it comes down to. Like, oh, that in
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  Speaker 3: his algorithm is usually. You know, you've got a lot
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  Speaker 3: of stuff that's topical news stories or space.
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  Speaker 2: Aliens. Are you doing this today because of you?
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  Speaker 7: What?
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  Speaker 2: You know what my algorithm is today? Let me guess.
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  Speaker 2: Coffee pots. You are 100% right.
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  Speaker 5: Coffee pots.
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  Speaker 2: Mine's blowing up with coffee pots. Ninja, espresso, Nespresso. That's
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  Speaker 2: all I got.
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  Speaker 4: Good.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait.
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  Speaker 3: Mine is that too, but there's a few things. Mine
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  Speaker 3: is coffee pots and feet. But 877-937-1047, what is your algorithm?
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  Speaker 2: What has it turned into.
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  Speaker 3: Because of something you innocently looked at for two seconds?
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next. It's John Jay and Rich.
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  Speaker 3: So Kyle just did a story off of Cosmo Magazine
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  Speaker 3: about how algorithms can affect dating. If you're dating, you
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  Speaker 3: see one negative video about red flags and cheating, and
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  Speaker 3: that's your whole feed. So we wanted to take it
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  Speaker 3: to what is your algorithm? You clicked on something. Like
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  Speaker 3: I brought up on the air how I was looking
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  Speaker 3: for a non-plastic coffee pot. Rich's phone heard that, and
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  Speaker 3: now Rich's phone has got coffee pots, and so does mine.
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  Speaker 3: I got some good bargain shopping for you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Kyle's feet.
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  Speaker 3: What's funny about my algorithm, I get unfugged feet pictures
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  Speaker 3: sent to my algorithm a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's wild. And I'll look at it and go, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's Kyle. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But also, I don't know if you guys have seen
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  Speaker 3: this yet. I clicked on a video. Sometimes you get
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  Speaker 3: to see it in your FYP. You click on something
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  Speaker 3: for a second and now that's all you get. Have
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  Speaker 3: you seen the people like in weird countries that are
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  Speaker 3: making food with their feet or they're cooking? It's really
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  Speaker 3: gross atmosphere. It's street food, but it looks really good.
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  Speaker 3: You guys ever seen those?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I've seen the
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  Speaker 6: ones where it's like the bees are all in the juice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all the bugs and everything.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I get that in my feed. I get the coffee
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  Speaker 3: pots in my feed. There was a period where I
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  Speaker 3: was getting couches. Remember, I was looking for a couch?
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  Speaker 3: Non-stop couches. I saw a video of a woman in
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  Speaker 3: another country and a cow is pooping and she catches
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  Speaker 3: the poop with her hands. It's like she's in a village.
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  Speaker 3: It must be something to do with how they're going
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  Speaker 3: to build their house or something. But now I just
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  Speaker 3: get tons of videos. It was like documentary videos of
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  Speaker 3: people in other countries pooping. catching the excrement from animals
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  Speaker 3: to do stuff with it. On my Twitter account, it's
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  Speaker 3: way worse than my Twitter account. I watched one of
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  Speaker 3: those To Catch a Predator things for a second. Now
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  Speaker 3: my whole feed is that. I also have people in
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  Speaker 3: high school beating up each other. Have you clicked on
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  Speaker 3: one of those yet?
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  Speaker 6: No, but Kadeem's Twitter feed makes me suspicious about what
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  Speaker 6: he's actually clicking on.
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  Speaker 2: Why? I never looked at it that way.
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  Speaker 8: Because it's like.
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  Speaker 6: Every single time, it's like, because you know X, it's
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  Speaker 6: not censored.
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  Speaker 2: It's not censored at all. It's like dirty. I'm like, ew,
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  Speaker 2: are you?
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  Speaker 6: It's like his own little porn hub on there.
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  Speaker 3: You watch one little choking video and the.
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  Speaker 2: Next thing you know.
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  Speaker 6: I get really disturbed. It's like a jump scare.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. All I get is who's the best
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  Speaker 2: 90s band on my Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that doesn't sound very funny. Haley, what did you
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  Speaker 3: click on? What's one thing you clicked on and your
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  Speaker 3: algorithm's all messed up now?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if I clicked on anything, but I
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  Speaker 4: keep getting these ads for excessive sweating disease. But it's
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  Speaker 4: a hand disease very specifically. And I've never known anyone
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  Speaker 4: to have this. I definitely don't have this. I never
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  Speaker 4: pressed on anything to get this information.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll block them.
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  Speaker 4: And I still get them. So I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 4: being haunted at this point.
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  Speaker 2: There's got to be a way to reset your algorithm.
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  Speaker 2: There should be. There probably is. There should be. You've
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  Speaker 2: got to look at it.
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  Speaker 5: Do you see any of the ones where you see–
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  Speaker 5: I feel like it's all AI now too. Pour cinnamon
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  Speaker 5: on pineapple and watch what happens. Pharmacists will go out
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  Speaker 5: of business. I probably get 40 of those a day.
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  Speaker 5: I haven't seen one of those.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 1: My algorithm is literally fashion, crafting, and like cooking, like food.
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  Speaker 7: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I get.
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  Speaker 1: What do you guys think this is all about?
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  Speaker 2: Mine's crazy, man.
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  Speaker 6: It depends on which Instagram account I'm on, truthfully.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, like if I'm on my personal one, a lot
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  Speaker 6: of it is like, here's how to be an influencer
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  Speaker 6: and make a million dollars.
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  Speaker 3: You know, on my ex, I clicked on like an
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  Speaker 3: ASU football thing. I was like, oh, I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: follow the coach at ASU football. And now my feed
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  Speaker 3: is just all sports. And I'm like, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 3: bring back the high school people beating each other up.
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  Speaker 6: What?
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  Speaker 3: We don't want that either.
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  Speaker 6: I have not seen the brawls.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the brawls are crazy when you click on something.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't watch that. It's really tough. It's really tough.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, Haley, thanks for calling in. Matt, what about you?
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  Speaker 3: What messed up your algorithm?
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  Speaker 7: My algorithm showed me this man who restores old mannequins,
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  Speaker 7: but he totally makes them look like real people. And
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  Speaker 7: I watched him take this crazy 1970s mannequin with no
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  Speaker 7: face and give it like realistic skin, teeth, eyes. And
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  Speaker 7: then he put it in his bedroom and And I honestly,
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  Speaker 7: I was thinking it was kind of a cool video,
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  Speaker 7: and then I saw.
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  Speaker 8: Him addressing a comment that said, a lot of people
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  Speaker 8: ask why I sleep with my mannequins.
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  Speaker 7: Why do people have to ask that? And then I
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  Speaker 7: realized I needed to get out of this side of
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  Speaker 7: TikTok immediately. But, bro, there's, like, one other thing, too.
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  Speaker 8: So, like... Dual lingo, like, I'm always trying to use
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  Speaker 8: it to learn stuff, and, like, the last time I
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  Speaker 8: was on there, I got some ad that was just, like,
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  Speaker 8: some AI Asian girl that's.
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  Speaker 7: Just, like, going, and then there's something blurred out. I'm like, bro,
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  Speaker 7: I'm not trying to see all this.
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  Speaker 8: I'm literally just trying to, like, learn a language, and look,
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  Speaker 8: it's not just me, because I went on to Reddit and, like,
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  Speaker 8: Moms are talking about it while their daughters are trying
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  Speaker 8: to learn a language. They're getting all these weird adult
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  Speaker 8: ads and stuff.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm just like, they got to change their sponsors. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Phone is going to pick up all the stuff you
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  Speaker 2: just said.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, probably.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Matt, thanks for calling in, man.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, no problem.
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  Speaker 2: Michelle, what's in your algorithm?
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  Speaker 8: Yes.
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  Speaker 9: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 9: So I started getting videos of like things that morticians
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  Speaker 9: do to our bodies and And one was something I
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  Speaker 9: never even thought about, uh, something like that they do
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  Speaker 9: to our bodies so that we don't leak after we pass.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I remember a former member of the
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  Speaker 1: show grant talking about this.
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  Speaker 2: Because they have to sew.
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  Speaker 3: Everything up, I think.
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  Speaker 2: So what do they do to make you not leak?
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  Speaker 9: Um, let's see, how can I say that's radio appropriate? Um, We,
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  Speaker 9: I don't know how to say it. Like they put
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  Speaker 9: something in a part of our body that where things
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  Speaker 9: come out.
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  Speaker 2: Like a cork?
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  Speaker 4: What is it?
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  Speaker 6: A cork?
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 9: You could call it that. And like online, they called
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  Speaker 9: it something else, like a plug.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. How exciting. I wonder if that'll come up
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  Speaker 2: in my feed. I don't want that.
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  Speaker 3: I want to see autopsies.
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  Speaker 2: Too much information. I saw.
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  Speaker 9: From sourdough to this.
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  Speaker 4: That's great.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, Michelle. Hearing it now. Sourdough to this. That's really funny.
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  Speaker 2: If you have any other ones, shoot us a call,
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  Speaker 2: 877-937-1047 or DM at John J. Van Ness. It's John J.
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  Speaker 4: And Rich.