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What's Next for Boots Ennis? Weekend Recap & Preview! Fulton vs Foster Landing Spot? CSAC Ali Act 2.0? · The Rope A Dope Radio Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, what are boxing fans. This is the Rope of
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  Speaker 1: Dope radio podcast. I am your host, Chris Carlson. We
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  Speaker 1: are live on a Wednesday afternoon. I hope everybody's doing okay.
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  Speaker 1: I was just actually paying a little attention to that,
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  Speaker 1: to that meeting that kind of came out of nowhere
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  Speaker 1: for the new Ali Act, that the revival right the
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  Speaker 1: OLIAC two point zero. The previous meeting had been postponed
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  Speaker 1: until December, but then it just kind of popped up
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  Speaker 1: and not surprisingly a lot of positivity. First, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people that called in first we're supported the bill,
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  Speaker 1: whereas you know, it was kind of the opposite the
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  Speaker 1: other way when they kind of just left it to
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  Speaker 1: the public. So yeah, that was kind of a surprise,
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  Speaker 1: but not really. And if you look who's supporting it,
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  Speaker 1: like they already they already released a document say they're
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  Speaker 1: in they're in support of it. Last night, I saw
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  Speaker 1: Nashuh on Twitter, you know, produced the document, looked into
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  Speaker 1: it a little bit, so you know that it's rare
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  Speaker 1: that you get bipartisan, two party support these days, very rare.
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  Speaker 1: There's only a handful of subjects, topics, whatever you want
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  Speaker 1: to say, categories, certain type of funding that they agree on.
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  Speaker 1: So when you have that and then you have you know,
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  Speaker 1: control of all the bodies, and you have the side
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  Speaker 1: that you're on, like Dana White has you know, has
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  Speaker 1: its ducks in a row, and it did seem like this,
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  Speaker 1: you know this here they had to get their ducks
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  Speaker 1: in a row and then like do the hearing really
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  Speaker 1: quick just to make it official. So anyway, side note,
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  Speaker 1: I was paying attention to that a little bit earlier,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, when it kind of just popped off.
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  Speaker 1: We will start with recap boots. Ennis took care of
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  Speaker 1: business very quickly. I'm definitely not surprised he knocked the
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  Speaker 1: guy out, but I didn't think it'd be that quick.
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  Speaker 1: Guido scored a knockout. Too many people think Josh Padley
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  Speaker 1: did not deserve to win. We had a good heavyweight,
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  Speaker 1: pretty good heavyweight fight in spots. Anyway, so back and forth,
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  Speaker 1: that's for sure. We had another upset. We'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: it and then we'll kind of look to this weekend
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  Speaker 1: we have some fights. It's funny. I even was a
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  Speaker 1: little surprised when I saw it, and you can kind
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  Speaker 1: of tell it was near the end of the previews.
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  Speaker 1: I just realized that I was actually saying that this
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  Speaker 1: Conway Landard fight was happening. I thought it was on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: The way it looked on on pro Box, it was
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  Speaker 1: kind of like not pro box, Yeah, not pro box,
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  Speaker 1: pro Boxing, Odds dot Com. I looked at it and
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  Speaker 1: and I you know, I later looked at it and
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  Speaker 1: saw like during like as the week went on, I
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  Speaker 1: looked and I also saw that they had Funduram Thurman
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  Speaker 1: on that date randomly. So that was my bad. That's
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  Speaker 1: this Friday, Friday afternoon in the States. We'll talk a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about that card. MVP Promotions, Jake, Paul Warrez
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  Speaker 1: and uh Danny Garcia's back. I think that's it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure this is his swan song, so to speak.
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  Speaker 1: But Nary plot Plaza is on that card, Warrez, so
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're They're the the w w BC Grand
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  Speaker 1: Prix semi Finals, which I've paid attention to that lightly
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  Speaker 1: just because some of the fight it's like whatever, they
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  Speaker 1: don't really mean much or anything like that, but some
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  Speaker 1: of them been pretty good. Actually. Uh So we're preview
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  Speaker 1: the weekend as well. When we start with recap, of course,
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  Speaker 1: we do have some fight news, A fight got postponed.
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  Speaker 1: What happens to the fights underneath that card, especially Fulton Foster.
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  Speaker 1: There's been some reports that they have a home, then
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  Speaker 1: other reports that it's not that they have a home,
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  Speaker 1: but not on that card. A little follow up, I
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  Speaker 1: guess you could say on the paramount plus stuff. Not
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot to get into there, but I did.
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  Speaker 1: I talked about it last week. I did get some
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  Speaker 1: pushback or some messages however you want to look at it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just a variety of fight news and stuff like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Boots though, man, Boots really did his thing, Like I
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  Speaker 1: really hope, you know, obviously virtual Archiees has to get
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  Speaker 1: by his next opponent a little bit. It's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a walk in the park. But if he in
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  Speaker 1: fact does get through that fight, man, I hope that
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  Speaker 1: fights next. I really do. But we'll see, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, he looks spectacular now. He was a big
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  Speaker 1: favorite in this fight, and all that we know, and
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  Speaker 1: hopefully the opponent is. There's just so much there at
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  Speaker 1: fifty four that you know, there's really no excuse unless
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of people turned down the fight and it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like the opponents are getting low balled or
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  Speaker 1: something like that. There's really no reason, no excuse, why
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  Speaker 1: Boots wouldn't get at least a sizeable challenge in his
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  Speaker 1: next fight opponent. Maybe it won't be a challenge on paper,
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  Speaker 1: but as far as a fight that you know the
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  Speaker 1: fans want to see because he's got it. Man, He's
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  Speaker 1: got the goods. He's explosive, big puncher. Has also shown,
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  Speaker 1: like he did two fights ago against Aanonius, a lot
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  Speaker 1: more discipline. He's an aggressive fighter. He's just a really
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  Speaker 1: fun to watch man. So we will start with recap.
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean the boots thing. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting him to do what he did. I
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  Speaker 1: do like how he was just kind of slightly moving
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  Speaker 1: on the outside, sometimes to his right, sometimes to his left,
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  Speaker 1: jabbing to the stomach or the head, beautiful right uppercut
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  Speaker 1: kind of buzz slashed, hurt Lima and then like three
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  Speaker 1: hooks I think it was like a right left right
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  Speaker 1: dropped them and you're like, oh my goodness, like you
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  Speaker 1: could kind of see it, and Lima's eyes like he
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  Speaker 1: was shell shot. You know, it was like what the
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  Speaker 1: fuck just happened? But yeah, three punch hook combo, then
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  Speaker 1: just a barrage of punches coming at him. Knock down,
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  Speaker 1: then another little flurry tko, it's over. It's a wrap,
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  Speaker 1: he's done, and it's in style. Just look great. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's not much to report from this one. There's not
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  Speaker 1: much to take from it besides he devoured them. And
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  Speaker 1: like I said, let's hope, you know that we can
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  Speaker 1: get some some really good fights for him because he's
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  Speaker 1: a hell of a fighter, and the string of opponents
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  Speaker 1: you know that he's gone through ever since signing with Mattrium,
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  Speaker 1: which he just reupt with. You know, it's it hasn't
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  Speaker 1: been great obviously, but when you got guys, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm talking about it in the future, not just artists,
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: but just in general. You know, you have Fandora, you
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: have Magic Mom. Even like a boat truck would be
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  Speaker 1: fun to watch. Zaiaz is out there, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys out there, so but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, uh yeah, Bakrahm, like I said, you have
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  Speaker 1: a variety of fires that he can face, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: we know some of them are tied up right now.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see how long he'll wait. Obviously, if he wanted to, say,
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  Speaker 1: get a Fundora fight, odds are that's not next. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any shame in waiting for Virtual
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  Speaker 1: Ortiz to fight a little bit and just go after that.
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  Speaker 1: But there might be another opportunity that pops up. Xanders
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  Speaker 1: Ayaz has a fight that he should be able to
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  Speaker 1: get through unscathed. Obviously, when you're waiting for fights, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: injuries happen. As we just saw with a fight getting postponed.
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  Speaker 1: But either way, great performance. Like I said, not much
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  Speaker 1: to go too deep into Macmodoph and Alan. Alan kind
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  Speaker 1: of early in the fight, I thought that he was
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  Speaker 1: spending too much time on the ropes and although he
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  Speaker 1: would laying like big left hooks off it from time
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  Speaker 1: to time, I just thought, you know, it was just
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  Speaker 1: too early backing yourself into the ropes. Mac Mudoff had
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  Speaker 1: some dh shots behind his jab. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: like the second round, it looked like Alan they called
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  Speaker 1: a low blow, but some really good exchanges down the
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  Speaker 1: stretch of that second round. You had Alan early in
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  Speaker 1: the third landing huge, huge bunches, and to his credit,
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  Speaker 1: mac Mudoff came back landed a big right hand and
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  Speaker 1: left hook, and then the third and fourth round he
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  Speaker 1: was landing some big, big right hands and left hooks.
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  Speaker 1: Alan landed a great uppercut in the fifth round, but
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  Speaker 1: maybe even in the fourth, but in the fifth really
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  Speaker 1: start to see Macmodoff start to hold more and more
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  Speaker 1: and it was preventing oops, it was preventing Alan from
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  Speaker 1: doing some work on the inside. Like I said, I
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  Speaker 1: thought he spent too much time with his back on
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  Speaker 1: the ropes Alan did, but you know that you could
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  Speaker 1: see that was gonna be a problem, and ultimately, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was. The seventh round was the first
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  Speaker 1: one point deducted. In the fifth though, the jab right hand,
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  Speaker 1: really nice right uppercuts as well by Macmodoff. He was
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  Speaker 1: just kind of steady throughout, whereas Alan had these spurts.
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  Speaker 1: Then he got later in the fight somewhere like in
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  Speaker 1: the eighth ninth, Like in the first part of the eighth,
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  Speaker 1: Alan just landing these huge overhand rights mouthguard. There was
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  Speaker 1: a kind of a strange pause when the mouthguard popped
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  Speaker 1: out for Macmodoff. It's not like they stopped it right
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  Speaker 1: when Allen was laying in a punch, but I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it was kind of a strange pause. But midway through
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  Speaker 1: the ninth big upper cut by Macmodoff, but Alan came
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  Speaker 1: back with you know, those looping right hands and hooks.
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  Speaker 1: You know. The ninth round, I thought Allen, you know,
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  Speaker 1: definitely won that. He won a couple like the first
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  Speaker 1: couple of rounds, Like I said, you know, not as much.
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  Speaker 1: The third round was really competitive. It was just kind
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  Speaker 1: of a back and forth fight. But I thought the
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  Speaker 1: first few rounds. Allen didn't really do himself many favors
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  Speaker 1: Macmodoff in the tenth though, you know, the jab and
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  Speaker 1: right hands, even the jab was snapping the neck of Alan. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The eleventh had really good back and forth action. There
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  Speaker 1: was a second point deduction for holding uh, probably like
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  Speaker 1: the last sixty seconds somewhere in there. I had it
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  Speaker 1: about eight to four mac Mudoff. You know, could you
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  Speaker 1: go seven to five? Could you go nine and three?
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  Speaker 1: I had a eight to four, one sixteen, one ten,
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  Speaker 1: one seventeen one, O nine and one fifteen one eleven
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  Speaker 1: were the scorecards, So yeah, I had eight to four.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that Allen just didn't follow up enough, and
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  Speaker 1: there's times where he could have won a round, but
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  Speaker 1: mac Mudoff would finish stronger, or at least when Alan
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  Speaker 1: would win around fair amount of signed mack Mudoff would
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  Speaker 1: come right back and within the next round. So I
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  Speaker 1: thought that was you know, I thought that was a
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  Speaker 1: very good performance in general by mac Mudoff. Alan obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's a fringe guy journey man, but he
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  Speaker 1: keeps hanging around and pulling off you know, upsets and whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, it was a good fight. Though it
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  Speaker 1: was pretty good fight at times, but yeah, Mac mudoff.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you could see he was kind of gassed
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  Speaker 1: and whatnot. Onto the Padley Blatti fight, I thought Ballotti
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  Speaker 1: was just busier the first handful of rounds one, two,
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  Speaker 1: in three. Padly was landing some okay shots, some decent
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  Speaker 1: shots in the third, kind of later in the third,
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  Speaker 1: but I thought a lot he kind of out hustled
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  Speaker 1: him the first three rounds, three rounds badly in the
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  Speaker 1: fourth round with the jab and right hand, but he
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  Speaker 1: can't They mentioned it on the broadcast too. He kept
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  Speaker 1: backing up in straight lines in that fourth round. Bellotti
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  Speaker 1: Ballatti had some good body work. Kind of later in
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  Speaker 1: that one, Belltti huge right hook to the body and
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  Speaker 1: just the overall body work. You know, as this fight
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  Speaker 1: went on, he really I don't know, he just seemed
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  Speaker 1: like it seemed like he was out working him badly.
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  Speaker 1: In the seventh round, I thought he won that round.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he landed some good left hooks off the ropes, really,
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  Speaker 1: especially one of them. The eighth round was really close.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Badley closed a little better, so I gave
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  Speaker 1: it to him, and you had like Padley boxing decently
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  Speaker 1: in the ninth, but then you know Bellotti, he he
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  Speaker 1: closed stronger of the night, so I kind of gave
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  Speaker 1: it to him. Same with the tenth in a sense,
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  Speaker 1: you had some early lands by Padley, bigger lands with
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  Speaker 1: the right hands and left hooks by Ballotti Blatzi, and
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  Speaker 1: then a late left hook and combinations, but then a
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  Speaker 1: late right hand. So it was a really kind of
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  Speaker 1: a fun little way to end the fight. But ninety
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  Speaker 1: nine to ninety two is that one of the scorecards?
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  Speaker 1: For real? I actually I wrote that down, but I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't let me check here, let me get the
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  Speaker 1: official ones. Yeah, ninety nine to ninety two, okay, But
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  Speaker 1: then ninety seven ninety three. I thought it was a
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  Speaker 1: little closer than that. Like if if they said Ballotti won,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have I wouldn't have freaked out. I thought
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  Speaker 1: he I thought Badley kind of got credit early in
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  Speaker 1: the fight where he probably didn't just looking at the scorecards.
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  Speaker 1: So but the nineteen nine ninety two, it's just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's fucking ridiculous. I don't know how you can I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how you can do that one. That one's
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  Speaker 1: way over the top. But Badly won the fight, Like
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  Speaker 1: I said, it was a little controversial. I'd have been
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  Speaker 1: fine with the draw actually, But like I said, if
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  Speaker 1: you told me, uh, you know that that badly lost
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  Speaker 1: and Bilatti won, I would have been just fine with that,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I don't know. I thought the scorecard, especially
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  Speaker 1: that one, it was pretty bad. So maybe they'll do
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  Speaker 1: a rematch hoops. I don't know. I doubt it though,
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  Speaker 1: but who knows. Uh. And then we also had a
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  Speaker 1: Guido Guido Vyanello Bianello against Alex Berier Bearrier Berier, how
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  Speaker 1: do you say the name?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: He just got beat up. Man. Like Guido came out
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  Speaker 1: well the first round, you know, not a ton happened
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  Speaker 1: early in the second round. H Guido landed a big
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  Speaker 1: right hand you had, Berier landed a nice left hook
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  Speaker 1: a little later, some good combinations, especially like in the
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  Speaker 1: second part down the stretch of the third round by Barrier.
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  Speaker 1: But then like Guido just started throwing dominations and after
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  Speaker 1: like a flurry of blows, it knocked down Barrierer and
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  Speaker 1: he looked hurt but also gassed, especially gasted. He looked
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  Speaker 1: like he was done at that end of the fourth round,
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  Speaker 1: and the ref was eyeballing it. Looking at it, you
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  Speaker 1: can see him like checking in, like, is this dude okay?
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  Speaker 1: You know, because he wasn't Barriere wasn't thrown back down
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  Speaker 1: the stretch of that fourth round and then a left
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  Speaker 1: hook and I think it was a jabb right hand
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  Speaker 1: knocked him out. Guido Bianello by Aanello. Bionello forgot how
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: to say that did his thing? Dude, Like he knocked
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: out this prospect that some people were high on. I
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: talked to a handful of people and some people were
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: kind of high on this guy. I actually did think
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  Speaker 1: he'd in the fight. I thought it'd be tough, but
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  Speaker 1: obviously on paper it was by far as tough ast fight,
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  Speaker 1: but I didn't think it would go down like this,
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  Speaker 1: I will say that. So, yeah, that was That's some
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: pretty good action. Oh there was that upset. I think
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: it is his name Fores beat Boston. That was it was,
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  Speaker 1: you know it was. I think it was a majority
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  Speaker 1: decision if I remember correctly, And that was that was
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  Speaker 1: a rematch off a split draw, if I I know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: it's yeah, split draw. But a lot of people thought
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  Speaker 1: that won that first fight, which you know, I can't
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  Speaker 1: say that. You know that he didn't, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: But but it was a close fight. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't doubt if they have a trilogy. No, really though
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: it was a close fight. It was a close fight,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta say. So let's see here. So Mirror Small's
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  Speaker 1: one as well, Moses one as well. Yeah, so pretty
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: good weekend. Definitely got you know, some good action, knockouts,
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  Speaker 1: back and forth heavyweight fight. Kind of a weird scorecard
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: if you can believe it in boxing. No, it's hard
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: to believe, but we got a weird scorecard. So yeah,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: that's funny. I just noticed that I had done that.
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned that earlier in the preview. At the very end,
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  Speaker 1: I looked at Conway in Leadard and I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's going on too. And I really didn't even, you know,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: dig too much into that because you had Shannon Ryan
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  Speaker 1: and Chloe Watson on that card, and for some reason
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was it was it was slated on
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  Speaker 1: that weekend, so it kind of took me by surprise.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, oh shit, that's on there too, And now
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  Speaker 1: that you know, a couple of days go by, I
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: was like, oh wait, that's not there.
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  Speaker 2: And I looked at Pro Boxing Odds, like I mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: and it was like, and I also know this Dan
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  Speaker 2: had from Dori Thurman like two weeks before on there.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, that threw me off. So yeah, I didn't
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: some reason, I thought it was Sunday, and I looked
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: at the thing and I'm like, oh, they got that missed.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I was thinking. Anyway, it's Friday.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: It's Friday this weekend, though, Danny Garcia with his last Tarrah,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: his swan song from Barclays taken on Danny Gonzalez shouts
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: out to Danny Garcia a very underrated fighter. I think
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: if I've always said this, if if you rearrange how
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: his some of his opponent choices went, I think he
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: did a lot less stick because he was brought up
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the hard way, as you know, as a true contender,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: even just just in general by Danny had to fight
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: real fighters very young in his career, and then ultimately
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: his first two big, big fights, he was a major
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: underdog against con and also against Mattias. He was three
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: to one. I want to bet three to one on
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: that fight. So I think when you look back, though,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: like even theo Fane where he was at that time,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: was a good It was a good fight and he
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: learned stuff in that fight Kendall Hole. You know, very
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: competitive fight, old ass morales, you know, it is what
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: it is. But then he got the you know, zab
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Judah was a good fight. Even Herrera was very underrated.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: A lot of people just say, oh, Sulka and Pauli
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and Samuel Vargas and and they kind of remember certain
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: fights like that. But even in his last fight, he
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: fought Arizloni Lara dude, like last year, like not even
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: you know, a little over a year ago. Actually I
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: think it was in September. So I think people people
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: kind of oh the Soca bro Soca, you know, and
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: even Owie Cherry picked Herrera. Yeah, but Herrero is a
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: good fighter, dude, Like Herrero is a good fighter. But
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: when you look at it, like I said, some tough fighters,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I'm on the way up to be able to get
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: a shot. But a mere Khan, Mattias Herrera, Lamont Peterson,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: even Guerrero, that was a good fight, Thurmon, Porter Granada's
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: spence obviously, Laura like the dude like win, loser, draw,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the dude fight A lot of people, you know what
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, So I think he gets a little disrespect
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: because of how the order went. Had he gotten some
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: of those softies out of the way, you know, then
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I think people would look at him differently. But the
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: guy was a stud dude, he really was. And yeah,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: he took his time to get to forty seven with
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: a few fights. I get it, but I don't know.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Man shots out to Danny Garcia Anyway Conway and Ledard
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: So Conway, Kiron A Cairn Conway. You know he's a vet, right,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: he's never been stopped, doesn't have much power to say
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the least. I think he has twenty three wins and
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: under ten. Let me actually check under ten. Yes, seven knockouts.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: So you know he had a close lost early in
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: his career. It was like a split decision pat like
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: fought against had two split decision losses, like really early on.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I mean he was just fighting like a fair amount
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: of four and six rounders and I think he did
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: get to eight, but then he had a twelve rounder
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere they lost. Well, actually it was a draw,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: split decision draw. This is back in twenty eighteen to
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Ted Cheeseman. So it's in Austin Williams. You know won
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: that fight. He got knocked down in that fight. Ah
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Sisica co unbeaten fighter at that time. He actually scored
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: a knockdown in that one. James Medcalf was a pretty
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: solid win. He has solid like okay wins, you know
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: DFU actually hold on what the hell when did he fight?
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: What the hell is going on on box? Right? With
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly? He barely beat not long ago? Oh deep?
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: What is it? File linus a file Some people thought
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: he was gonna get beat in that fight. So you know,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: he's he's a good This is a good test for
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: la Dart who's like undefeated twelve and zero or something
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: like that. You know, he he just he hasn't been
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: tested just yet, and so I'm kind of looking for this.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: He he he beat a fighter. You know, we can
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: do the well, he took care of this guy or
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: he did decision a guy that Conway. You know, it
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: was a competitive fight, but that Conway kind of beat
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: early or no Conway lost to what am I saying? So,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: you know, would I be ready to crown you know
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Ledard if he wins this fight, No, I wouldn't. But
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I just think it's a it's like a necessary step
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: for him as a you know, a guy with only
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: twelve fights, so I think it's a good fight. I
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: do think he'll win, but it's gonna be close. It's
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: going to be close. You also have, let's see Jimmy
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Sands and Troy Coleman. You have that Shannon Ryan Chloe
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Watson fight that I mentioned last week as well, So yeah,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: this weekend doesn't of course, you have that you know
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: card with a bunch of fights on it from Jake Paul,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's not a week in that screams, oh
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: my god, this is a great fight. But Chloe Watson
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: is like a plus one seventy. I think the highest
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I see he is a plus two hundred. I like
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Shannon Ryan in that fight. But it's gonna be a
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: good fight, you know. I think Jimmy Sands will take
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: care of his opponent. But when you look at Conway,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: like you see plus one ten is like the highest
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I see plus one ten. Otherwise minus one thirty for
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: la Edard and minus one of four for Conway, FanDuel
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I have one O five Like it's minus numbers. You
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: don't really see this a whole lot boxing, So it's
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: it's a real step up for for the dard and
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: and I'm kind of I haven't made a bet on it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I'm really kind of I think it'll go the distance.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: You know. That's that's the you know, when you can
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: say if a fight's gonna go the distance or not.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Yess it's gonna go the distance. But what kind of
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: money you're gonna get for that? Probably not a lot,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: right Jessica and Nary, and you have Narry and Warres.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I was Rodriguez is on that Danny Garcia card as well.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I forgot to mention that what about Actually I should
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: check that out. What is that? Because sometimes pro boxing odds,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: like for instance, has had October nineteenth listed, but it's
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: but you have Cortes and Hernandez Baiaz and Gonzalez olvery Gonzalez.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: But I think Nary Yessica Nary Plata will win. But
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: war is only a plus one eighty four plus twenty eight.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Like it's close on paper, It's very close on paper.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: So you know, like I said, this stuff doesn't blow
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: people away, and even hardcorees are like, you know, like
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: not much in these fights. But if you're looking for
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: competitive fights, you know, if you're bored this weekend, there's
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: definitely some fights going on, so, you know, it is
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: what it is. We'll see, hopefully we get a ton
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: to talk about. I mentioned that Grand Prix, the WBC
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: gram P semifinals, that's on the zone. That's in the morning,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: that Sunday morning over here anyway, but all both those
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: cards are on the zone. The Warres and Nara's Plata
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: is on there. Omar Warres and Omar Rosario we're fighting
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: on that card as well. Shane metcalf is a slight
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: underdog to Rosatta or Tease. That should be a very
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: good fight. So yeah, I mean, I think it's there's
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: some interesting action. Like I said, it's not gonna blow
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: you away, per se. But you know, it's these weekends
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I mentioned all the time. You know, it's these weekends
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: where they kind of sneak up on you and you
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: have a fight of the year or something like that.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not calling for a bunch of fights of the year. Uh,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: don't quote me on that. But yeah, so all right,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: where the hell that is so weird? Okay? I think
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: that's about it. Like I said, I think I think
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Danny Garcia gets extremely underrated man, and everybody just thinks
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: of Sulka. But yeah, I saw so. Last night I
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: saw John Nash Hay not the Face podcast. He tweeted
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: something as the fix already in for tomorrow's California State
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Athletic Commission meeting. Seems like the subcommittee that was supposed
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: to report back in December has already made up its mind.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: And he put out a document, you know, of what
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: he saw. And then I noticed, you know, so they
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: kind of it's gonna be in December. Actually no, no,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: it's not. It's happening now, And so I paid attention
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: to it a little bit before I started the podcast,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: before I hit record, and Gray Johnson, boxer at Gay Gray,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just said that. Sorry. Seventeen year
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: old amateur boxer named Gabrielle is the first one to
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: call and criticize the act proposal, right, But what you
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: did see were people like doctor Jeffrey Davidson, a medical
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: director for the UFC in multiple Las Vegas emergency facilities,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: calling in to voices support for the bill. You had
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: a boxing attorney, Harrison Whitman, whose works includes time with
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: top rank in probellum, calls in favor of the bill.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: You know, a bunch of like the President of Medical Research,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of credited facility and direct GLEE financially benefits
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: from working with UFC calls and for the support like
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: these are. This is all Gray Johnson a KA box
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Wreck Gray Nick KHN totally shocked here. Nick con says
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the ALIAC Renewal Acts should pass because the team networks
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: don't want to televise boxing and Nick con conveniently was
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the first one allowed to talk from the public. So, yeah,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: you know, this is kind of real funky to all
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: of a sudden just be like, oh, by the way,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: we're doing it this way, this is how we're doing it,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: you know, But it's not surprising, you know what I mean,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: it's not surprising at all. So to me from the start,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: you know, I've always said that this thing is going
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: to go through, and I've gotten some pushback with that.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I've gotten either pushback saying you don't know that, you know,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: it's not even it hasn't passed yet. Bills get on
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the floor, then they don't pass all the time, and
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: bills get introduced and they don't even even get voted on,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: or they get you know, voted out in a subcommittee.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: And that's all fair, and that's all true. But and
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: then also people saying don't get political, like I said,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: it's just silly. It's like, dude, we're talking about a bill,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: a bill but needs a pass in Congress, talking about
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: athletic you know, commissions. So of course I'm going to
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: talk politics a little bit because that's what's driving it.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: So I'm not saying in favor against the I'm not
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: talking of politics in general. Oh this is what I
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: like about this politic, this candidate, you know, this politician,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: this senator. I'm not talking about that. I'm just saying
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: when a bill has bipartisan and think about it, like
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the ain't a white UFC is doing a fucking event
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: on the White House grounds? Dude, Like what more do
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: you need to know that this bill is getting passed?
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, it just is, and not enough people care
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: about it, Like even if the Democrats went against it, right,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: would they really make a stand here? You know? Especially
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: like there's just others, there's so many other things that
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: of course this is gonna affect boxers, but on average,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: people don't give a shit about boxing, even boxing fans,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: hardcore fans don't give a shit about boxers a lot
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: of them don't, and we found that out in recent years, so,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, we knew that before, but it's really, you know, showing.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, the shit's gonna pass, dude. It's
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: gonna pass. Like it's gonna happen. They're having an event
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: at the White House, dude, what more do you need?
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: The Congress is lockstep right now with the White House.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: It just is. And like I said, yeah, technically to
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: get up bill passed, do you need bipartis and support, Yeah,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: you do, But I just I don't know, man, I
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: just don't. I don't think it's a big enough issue
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: to stop it, to oppose it. That's me personally. Well,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: we'll see how it plays out. But you know, there's
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: plenty of boxers that can still keep doing what they're
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: doing within the current ALI Act. And you know, you
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: do wonder though, when fighters sign with ZUFA, are they
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: gonna get the same information about you know, how much
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: did Paramount give you for this event? How you know
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: who's getting what? I guess we'll find out. I guess
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: we'll find out. And just to follow up a little
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: bit with ZUFA, I wasn't shocked when they talked about
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: he said targeting up to four hundred and fifty fighters
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's gonna sign four hundred fifty fighters. He
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: said targeting targeting them could be more, could be less.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but think about it. I will say
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: this though, if it's four hundred and fifty, let's just
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: say four hundred four hundred for twelve cards, that's that's
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: not enough. There was times when the PBC had all
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: those you know, those time by deals and fights were
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: on a bunch of different channels, and it was a
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: little hard to follow, you know, but you needed that
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: many cards per year with that kind of roster. But
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: think about it. If you have let's say eight to
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: ten fights, that's sixteen to twenty boxers. Even if you
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: have twelve fights, that's twenty four boxers. And there's twelve
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: cards a year. So even if you have ten fights,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: that's twenty boxers, you know, for that card, and I
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you know, I don't know, unless they're just a
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: bunch of four rounders or something. I don't know how
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: many times they're going to go over twelve and fourteen fights.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: And it's gonna be at different way classes and so
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: twelve cards. You do need a fair amount of fighters though,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: because you can't fight someone and then odds are you're
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: going to have half the card fight in a month,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: you know. Now, sure if some of them are prospects
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: and you're bringing them up, but are they really going
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: to show like four and zero guys going against you know,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: a person that's so you got a four and oh
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: boxer going against like a two and eight or like,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, we have to see this stuff.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: But they need they need I mean, they need more
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: than one hundred boxers then, you know, especially if they're
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: going to be deep or whatever. But it's all it's
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: all up for grabs. We'll see, we'll see. We got
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: to see what the cards look like, you know what
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the bottom line. You gotta see
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: what the cards look like. And you know, that's just
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: where we're at. So Fandora injured his hand and now
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: the fight with Keith Thurman's postponed. It did save us
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: from a double pay per view weekend, which is kind
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: of nice because, as we know during the day, both
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: fights shouldn't be on pay per view to be fair.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Parker Wardley and then you know, Vendora and Thurmom, we're
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: gonna be on the same day, which is shitty right now, Yeah,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: they don't go head to head, but it's on the
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: same same day, and mind you it's during college football too,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Like that just makes no sense whatsoever, It really doesn't.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know, you know, I don't know
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: what's up with that. It sounds like they're going to
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: reschedule these fights. You know, Fulton and Foster was reported
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: that it's gonna be on December sixth, on the undercard
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: of Lamont Roach and pitt Bull Cruise, but then now
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: it seems that that's not the case. So whether that's
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: true or not, I don't know. Dan Rafael is reporting
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: PBC has announced the entire pay per view or oh,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: the entire event is postponed, per sources. So Hazus Ramos
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: and seamwils A Junior and Malenswell Junior and Luceero will
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: likely now be on the Pitbull pay per view undercard
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: with now we now for sure no the co feature
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: is is Ghanam back Laura, So they did get that
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: fight over the line, which you know is great at
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: at that weight class. Like finally something's happening at that
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: weight class. But I've heard multiple people report it now
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: that it actually may not be on that card though,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: meaning Fulton in Foster. So I'm not really su sure
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: exactly what that means. But December sixth in San Antonio
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: is that uh Isa Cruz, Lamont, Roach baber View on
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Prime and uh yeah, so we get Jonna Beccan, Arislani
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Laura like that's that's pretty cool. I like that. But
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: like I said, as of right now, Fulton Foster's not
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: on it. We'll see where that ends up. I don't know.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Hopefully it's on straight up on a Prime card, just
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: straight up put it on the East Coast, call it
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: a day, But well, I don't know. We'll see, we'll
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: see what happens to it. But it's a really good fight.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I want to see it. And it's what is the
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: second or third delay? I think is second delay, third delay?
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Something like that. Sorry. And then as far as the Ferandora,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing compingers say that it's expected to land on
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Manny Pacquiel's undercard according to Ring Magazine, So Fandora Thurman
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: would be an undercard fight on Manny's you know, on
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Manny's card January twenty fourth in Vegas, but the fight,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: the card could shift to January thirty first too, That's
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: what Coppenter's saying anyway, So who is he gonna fight?
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people just kind of assumed
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: that it would you know, that it was it was Well,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: some people thought it'd be a rematch with Barrios, which
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that's not happening. Well, I guess we can't
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: say for sure, right, so I should probably I should
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: probably shut up there. But also we thought Roly Romero.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: But now the WBA has officially said that he has
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: to fight. He has to defend his title, Gayasov or
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: whatever his name is, Chakrum, he's got to fight him.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: And then Nick Ball has to defend his WBA featherweight
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: against Brandon Figueroa. So basically they have until Roy has
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: until November thirteenth to agree to a deal, where Ball
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: and Figaroa have November twelve, otherwise they go to perse bit. So,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: you know, just because they called that doesn't mean that's
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: how it's gonna happen. You know, it still could be Roly.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I've also heard rumors about Ryan Garcia
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: and back Ya, which I suppose if you want to
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: you know, sell more, that would be the one to do,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: you know, But I don't know, I'm not sure, but
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I do like Fandora and Thurman as an undercard to
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: a pay review. Now Pakiel leading the pay view against
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: who it's still kind of shaky, right so so yeah,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: And also I saw inside the ring a clip of
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Lamont Roach saying he could have taken Gervonte Davis to
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: arbitration after the August sixteenth, you know, fight fell through,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: but didn't because Al Hayman and PBC took care of
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: him and made things right. So and and now they
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: got him. It didn't get him a legit opponent. It's
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: good for his name or whatever. But I also saw
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: some some rumors about Vasilly Lomachenko being the opponent for
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Manny Backyard. I don't know, oh, you know, I'm not
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: sure that I just saw that as a rumor, but
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. You know, also saw a rumor about
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Keishawn Davis and Mattrium and how Mattroom you know, was
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: trying to buy out Davis from his because he's only
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: got one or I think it's one fight left, maybe
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: two I can't remember, so that would be a big,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: big signing for him, that's for sure. There was someone
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: sent me this. Eddie hern reveals five men hit list
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: for Boots. Yeah, these are basically the guys I I
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: named originally. Someone also sent me this. The Ring Classic
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: pound for pound rankings from the start of twenty thirteen.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Now this they cut off nine and ten. But in
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, Yeah, Floyd Mayweather, andre Ward one Mineral, Marcus
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Sergio Martinez, Adrian Broner, Donnare pac Yell and Klitchko. I
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: don't know the ninth and tenth at that moment, but
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Broner being as high as five pound for pound shows
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: you that there was some bias in the rankings there. Oh,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: bade Jack will get his rematch December thirteenth in Los Angeles.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: That Noel Mikelani or whatever, Mike Michael Lanny so oh.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Also I saw Dan Rafiel per source direct with direct
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: knowledge that the Turbia Better Be is off the November
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: twenty second card. That does that mean he's lining up
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: for bidvol? Is that what's gonna happen here? Also, Eddie
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Hearn on Aeriels Show talking about Dana White. When you
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: say publicly that you're coming in and you're going to
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: dominate the sport, what do you want me to do?
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Roll over and then let you tickle my belly. They
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: don't really have the vision. When when you come out
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: and say they don't really have the vision, they don't
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: do They don't think big. I've been accused of many things.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: That's one thing I've never been accused of. I live
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: for that ship. So yeah, I don't know. Man and
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Corey actually from Minnesota said nice interview, but two out
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: of the match froom seven United States shows this year,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: we're at the We're in Orlando, basically at like a
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: little small show. And remember he did the same thing
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: when he came to the US. He's gonna take over
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: the US boxing. He did the same shit, talk the
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: same shit basically. I mean, maybe not lying for line
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: or whatever. This was a hot take last week that
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: someone sent me before the fight. I didn't disrespect Lima whatsoever.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I thought he was a little bit better than people
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: thought he was. But I also didn't look at this
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: as a good fight, like a good opponent, you know.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: But this guy says that Lima was a better fighter
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: than Boachuk, and he's tired of people acting like he's not.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Lima's bigger and could take a punch better than Poachuck.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: He just hasn't gotten the chance to prove it. Just
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: because you don't know the fighter doesn't mean they're bad.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: And they used tell as the guy who upset tells
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: who's another guy by the way, that you know that
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: he could he get faced. I forgot to mention that guy. Anyway.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Here's a tweet from Eric magrickin when when Dana White
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: says boxing is broken, what he's what he's saying is
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: no nobody has monopolized the sport. The reason why there's
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: no boxing monopoly in the US is because the ALI
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Act and Anti trust lawsuits the ALI Destruction Act is
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: a tool for ZUFA want to help try and monopolize.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean that's why it's not
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: a surprise when they're targeting a bunch of fighters, because
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: if you're it's just basic. If you're gonna use the
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Ring magazine rankings, then you gotta have Ring magazine ranked fighters,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: rold says. He tweeted, I'm in the odd camp where
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I think GGG was both overrated and pretty clearly a
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Yeah, I mean, that's what's crazy about it.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: He before he even many people thought he won the
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Canelo fight. Many people thought he won both. I didn't
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: think that glove Can won both of those fights. If
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I would have given the first one, I would have
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: gave in Canelo the second one. But he proved to
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: me against Canelo in Canelo's prime, that he beat him. Now,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: it doesn't go down on the record books, but to me,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: he beat him, or he was right there neck and
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: neck with him, so that you know, some of the
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: statistics that people that Now for the last chunk of years, really,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: ever since WBA and PBC started to like link up more,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of people had a lot to say about
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: the WBA lately, and there is a lot to say
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: about them, don't get me wrong. But prior to that,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: they were given extra defenses of an intro not even
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: a real WBA belt for Glovekin, and they were talking
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: about Hagler and all this shit. And that's the thing.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: It's like, when you overhype a fighter, then he gets
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: then he gets to the point where you're like, dude,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: let him beat someone first, you know, and by the way,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: he didn't look all that good against Daniel Jacobs. Wasn't
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: a great fight for him. He scored a knockdown. I
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: thought it deserved a rematch, you know. But anyway, yeah,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: he is a Hall of Famer. He's gonna be in
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. He might as just chalk it up.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: But I do think he got way overrated because I
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: really think a lot you know, back in the day Irish,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Italian and Jewish fighters and just quote unquote white fighters
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: just had a lot more success back in the day.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: And when we saw this Eastern European movement, it just
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: got a lot of people pumped up for white boxers
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: and for being honest and I and so like Ousig,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I'd say Kobalev got underrated for he had better wins
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: and look out, you know, well he fought against andre
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Ward that first fight. I thought colev was getting I
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: don't you know, coble Edi had some really ignorant shit,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: racist shit or whatever. But and you know, he's got
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: a background potentially you know, allegedly as well. But I
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: thought he was getting undervalued while they're so busy hyping
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: up Glovekin, who hadn't fought anybody and tearing down Miguel
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Coto because he won't fight him and he's gonna take
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: on a Canelo fight instead. But the second Glovekin got
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: in that same scenario, they weren't tearing down people. They
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: weren't tearing down Glovekin for it, you know. So I
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: always thought that was just fake. But honestly, I think
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of these white writers, and I know white
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: people don't want to hear this, and I know I'm
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: gonna get messages, but I don't give a shit, like
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: this is this is what happened, dude. Like Whereas Usik,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: it took a while for him to get his praise
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: right while they were already saying Lomachenko's this, Lomachenko's that
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: he's the best, this, he's the best that. Meanwhile, Usik
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: is better than him and he finally got a chance
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: to prove it, and then those same people are jumping
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: on Usik like he's the best heavyweight of all time.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: It's like, dude, we don't need to do this. He's
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: not the best heavyweight of all time, but he's the
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: hell of a fighter. In as far as this generation,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: it really doesn't get a whole lot better. He got Crawford.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: You got any way, you know, you got some guys,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: but like it doesn't get a whole lot better. So
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man. Anyway, that was a little ramp
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: that I got on. What have got here? What have
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: got here?
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I did see I've seen this guy interview other people.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I really don't know who he is. Okay, this streamer,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: but he was talking to Wilder and he Wilder said
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: he has something coming up. We're looking at January. I've
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: signed a contract already. All I can say is two time.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Now is that is that bridge weight or what is that? Because? Uh,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: who's he fight? He's not fighting hoosic? Is he? I did? Oh?
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: I did? I wanted to follow up on Beyond Boxing.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: So Beyond Boxing had a delayed show for Crawford. Crawford's win.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Someone said that last time I did the show, I
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: hadn't seen that he released one because he technically he
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: had released it already and I hadn't seen that he
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: released it. But we were already removed from the fight.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: He didn't have that one, you know. Right there now
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: he says stuff about you know, the Ricky Hatton. I
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: was going to do this. I was going to do
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: the he said he's eating Crow. I was gonna do
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: the Crawford one. I did hear the episode, but to
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: be fair like, even on the episode he talked about
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: eating Crow, but then he was like, it kind of
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: roomed boxing right now because there's no like he even
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: said like the WW like that they'd never let this
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: happen in the WWE. It's like what because he basically
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: said that the money now, there's no big fights. Crawford
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: spoiled it all. As you know, Canelo fighting Shiraz, Right, he
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: could still go do that and they could set it
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: in the UK, or it'd be in Saudi and it'd
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: be more closer to the UK time and it'd still
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: be a big fight there. But I get it, it's
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: not the same fight. But he didn't really give Terrence
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Crawford credit for winning that fight. He didn't say how
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: he did it beyond work rate. And that's one thing
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: he said. He's like, if you look at work rate,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: that's who's gonna win the fight. And to an extent,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: sure that that can be very true. But it was
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: way more than just work rate in that fight. It
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: was the best defensive performance he's ever put on Terrence Crawford.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: And also it's not like he threw a thousand punches.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Now he out threw them. But remember it's not like
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Canelo would ever be like, he's not a busy he's
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: not an active fighter, so up throwing Canelo really doesn't,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: you know, add up to much. He didn't really give
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Crawford his props. He basically said, hey, man, I'm eating
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: crow work great, and then he was like, but he
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: fucked up a lot of ship. Now they don't have
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: anything for Crawford and now Canelo. You know, he talked
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: about Charras and some other fights, the Bivil fight and
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: all that. I mean, that wasn't even a close fight though,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: So he didn't talk about what Crawford could do potentially.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he didn't really he said, go listen to it.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: I was gonna listen to it anyway. I listened to
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: the podcast. But I don't know, It's just it's just
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: kind of weird because he didn't he didn't really, he
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: didn't really say much. Ben Whittaker is fighting and burmingm
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Alabama on Mattroum boxing card on his own. That's all.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm really gonna say about it, it's really
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: it's really not that not that big of a fight.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: Serrano and Erica Cruz are fighting January third on his
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: own in Puerto Rico. Shots out to that fight. That
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: should be a good fight. I also saw this is
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: from Netflix. Jamie Fox stars in Fight for eighty four,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: a new sports drama based on a true story now
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: in production. You know, it has to do with the
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Olympic boxing team in the plane crash in nineteen eighty
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: and how they rebuilt the team and you know, all
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: the crazy metals and all that that big one. So
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: that's kind of cool. Jamie Fox is a very talented guy. Also,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: the WBO w B A excuse me, is now efficiently
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: ordered ku Brat Poulev for Moses Atama. So I think
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: that they found the guy that they're gonna have fight
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: right now. This is what it looks like to me.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: They found a guy for him to fight, and uh yeah,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that fight considering where he is.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to go too much below that, though.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I will say that Leonard Ellerby he says there were
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: two major major promoters and a few other very good
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: promoters back in the day, but the top two controlled
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: the entire sport. A lot of times that was true.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: A lot of times that was true. I think I
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: think that's about it. Oh, I saw this. I don't
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: know who tweeted it because someone just screenshoted it. But
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: they're talking about boxing Gems, which if you haven't checked
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: out Boxing Gems on YouTube, you should. Boxing Gems film
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: study for Norman Haney with solid Norman seemed a lot
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: more predictable and less effective with his athleticism athleticism than
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: I thought. It's a lot of launching off the back
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: foot that could be timed. If you can't hurt Devin,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: I don't see him out boxing him at all. Yeah,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I mean I agree with that, you can't just throw
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: him in the trash. But yet if you hurt him
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: that that goes a long way. So yeah, I mean
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that fight. I think that's a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: really good fight. So let's see. Uh talked about Jeana
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Beckham Lara. That's the deal. I think I think that's
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: about it. Hopefully my schedu got a little mixed up.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm doing it back to back Wednesdays. Hopefully
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: we can get it back on Tuesday and talk to
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: John about some of the stuff that's happened lately. I'd
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: like to hear him talk about, you know, what he
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: thinks about ZUFA Boxing and the paramount deal. And it's
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: been a lot of kind of all over the place
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: type stuff with the with what people expect from ZUFA boxing.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: But you do have to let it play out too.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: But I'll always say that, you know, like if you
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: look at the track record of paying the talent, the
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: people that are actually risking literally risking their life and
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: brain damage and just internal organ damage. You know, I
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: hate to laugh after that, but it's true. The people
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: that are pissing blood and getting concussed and all that,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: they deserve a fair amount of that profit of revenue
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: really whatever. Anyway, So yeah, hopefully one of these fights
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: are a few of these fights pop off and we
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: can break them down. I thought it was a fairly
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: good weekend with competitive fights and knockouts and whatnot. Nothing crazy,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: but I thought it was still a pretty good weekend. Anyway,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get out of here, enjoy the fights.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: We'll be back. We do have a couple of bangers
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: to finish the year. I will say that, so, you know,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: kind of bear with everything here as a boxing fan.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: It's been a little funky, no doubt about it. Let's
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: just hope twenty twenty six is just steadier, you know,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: throughout the year instead of these these breaks that we
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: take and whatnot. So anyway, I'm going to get out
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: of here, enjoy the fights. See you next week.