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Memoirs Of A Metal Warrior With DAVID GUNN From KING 810 · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: I don't know how to give ship plugs. Dude's fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: Man, that's good enough. You told me how to pronounce
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  Speaker 2: a band name, probably anyway, so let's just start.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm just doing some misdirection here, because next
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  Speaker 1: time I mentioned it, I'll say one oh, and then
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  Speaker 1: I'll say eight ten the other time, just to I
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  Speaker 1: just run syops in confusion, trying to make sure we
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  Speaker 1: don't become popular.
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  Speaker 2: We're thirty hours king with band with three numbers behind it.
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  Speaker 3: We go.
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  Speaker 1: That's beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: So being eight one over arrived in Australia early next
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  Speaker 2: month for a run of shows, starting in Adelade on
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  Speaker 2: March of fourth, before taking Melbourne, Sydney, Newcastle and Brisbane
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  Speaker 2: over consecutive nights. So not too far away, bro, you're
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  Speaker 2: packed and ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't packed a single thing, but maybe that's probably
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  Speaker 1: a good idea. I'll have to set a reminder.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be your first headlining tour of Australia after
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  Speaker 2: playing sound Wave in twenty fifteen and then supporting in
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  Speaker 2: Heart's Wake in twenty twenty four. So how are these
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  Speaker 2: show's going to be different as Headlina?
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  Speaker 1: Well, there'll be a lot more of it. We've never
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  Speaker 1: played for any more than a half hour or so,
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  Speaker 1: so this is the first headliner that we've ever done there.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll try to give you a whole lot more
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  Speaker 1: of what we were already giving you, and hopefully even
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  Speaker 1: more than more. Yeah, Yeah, I just I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I wish I knew what to expect, but we kind
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  Speaker 1: of just play and improv and do whatever it is
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  Speaker 1: that that we do each night. So I don't have
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  Speaker 1: any premonitions. I don't have any I don't have any
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  Speaker 1: tips or pointers what you might get.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the longest show is like, you're not a band
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  Speaker 2: that goes for part techniques and all the all the
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  Speaker 2: gimmicks are your band, realize more on your music and
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  Speaker 2: your intensity.
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  Speaker 1: Say yeah, especially when coming over there, just because it's
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  Speaker 1: so expensive to do things over there, but also just
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  Speaker 1: to get over there. And so the further you travel,
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  Speaker 1: you realize we like to do theatrical things, and we
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  Speaker 1: try to as much as we can. But the further
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  Speaker 1: you travel, especially when you're small and independent like we are,
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  Speaker 1: the more everything costs to do things. So you start
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  Speaker 1: having this grand vision of how your show looks like
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  Speaker 1: Iron Maiden, But then when you see what is possible,
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  Speaker 1: you are like, okay, we'll bring a back drop.
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  Speaker 2: Most of your music projects scenes of poverty, crime, and
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  Speaker 2: real world experiences from behind County Plint, Michigan. But as
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  Speaker 2: you go around the world, I like you find that
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  Speaker 2: it's hard for some audiences to connect with those emotions
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  Speaker 2: because I haven't actually experienced them themselves.
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  Speaker 1: No. Actually, everyone seems that I talk to, they all
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  Speaker 1: have their way of resonating with it or their way
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  Speaker 1: of clicking with it, and they'll always say exactly what
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  Speaker 1: you just said. Actually, if we are in a place,
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  Speaker 1: say that doesn't have these types of problems or these issues,
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  Speaker 1: someone will always start it out with the people that
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  Speaker 1: I talked to. You know, I didn't grow up like
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  Speaker 1: you grew up. But and then they'll tell me this
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  Speaker 1: story and it's actually pretty cool. So I find.
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  Speaker 3: It the opposite to where I think it does connect
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  Speaker 3: with people, and maybe not exactly in the direct type
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  Speaker 3: of this happened, and this also happened to me, and
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  Speaker 3: this also happened to me, and this also happened to me.
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  Speaker 3: But musically or feeling wise, I think it connects with
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  Speaker 3: people on different types of levels. Different people on different
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  Speaker 3: types of levels as well.
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  Speaker 1: You know. So luckily we never turn up to a
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  Speaker 1: room full of people that are pissed that they can't relate.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I suppose a lot of people too,
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  Speaker 4: like they've had problems with their own growing up in
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  Speaker 4: the world, and when they hear you guys singing about
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  Speaker 4: what you've been through, it actually helps them open up
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  Speaker 4: a bit more about things that they think at you doo.
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  Speaker 1: I guess yeah. You do have some times someone will
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  Speaker 1: tell you a story that you know you wish didn't
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  Speaker 1: happen to people. And luckily, since our music is all
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  Speaker 1: pretty true to they're my actual experiences, things that I've
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  Speaker 1: experienced in life, Luckily I can relate to them in
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  Speaker 1: that type of way. But even when they don't have
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  Speaker 1: these really deep traumatizing experiences that I think our music
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  Speaker 1: and vulnerability in the music that we have kind of
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  Speaker 1: opens up to people. It's a minority of people, it's
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  Speaker 1: not everyone in the crowd. It's not going to meet
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  Speaker 1: you after to tell you about this fucked up story
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  Speaker 1: that they also lived through. But for the people that don't,
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  Speaker 1: I think it resonates with them in a different way,
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  Speaker 1: you know, on a different level. Some some people it
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  Speaker 1: only resonates with superficially on a level of Oh, I
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  Speaker 1: like to listen to this when I'm in the gym.
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  Speaker 1: Some people are kind of emotionally stimulated where they're They're like,
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  Speaker 1: I had this experience that this song talks about. I
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  Speaker 1: was wondering if that was real for you, and that
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  Speaker 1: I have to say, unfortunately, yes, and then we both
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  Speaker 1: become grim. And then some people will engage with the intellectually,
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  Speaker 1: if that makes any sense. There's just different levels of
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  Speaker 1: engagement that I think people have. So that's that's actually
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  Speaker 1: pretty cool because that's kind of how I write the songs.
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  Speaker 1: I try to make a feeling, and it has to
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  Speaker 1: have like a feeling, emotion, whatever you want to call it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really like to think about it like that,
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  Speaker 1: but on that type of superficial level. But then if
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  Speaker 1: someone wishes to peel back, I like to engage them
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  Speaker 1: intellectually or emotionally or even in a way that might
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  Speaker 1: conjure up some type of I don't know, conflict, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't always have to be conflict, but I
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  Speaker 1: try to layer these things, even not song by song,
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  Speaker 1: but all in every song. You know, to where there's
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  Speaker 1: stuff in each song that many different people can find,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if they're not necessarily a heavy music person,
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  Speaker 1: but they're like, I like the storytelling that you have
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  Speaker 1: in here, or if they're not a super thoughtful person,
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  Speaker 1: they're like, I play this in the military when we
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  Speaker 1: go out on our patrols and it's just stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you personally, i'd rether these are all
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  Speaker 2: things that have actually happened to you. Like, I know,
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  Speaker 2: you write them because it's cathartic and you like to
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  Speaker 2: get it out, but night after night you are reliving
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  Speaker 2: these experiences that weren't really went for you, like it
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  Speaker 2: over with you emotional and like is to take us toll?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, there's no there's no follow up to it. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I can laugh and make a little make a little
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  Speaker 1: joke about it. But I think about that a lot. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: Luckily I'm pretty well centered and I do a lot
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  Speaker 1: of other work to kind of counter that, or to
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  Speaker 1: at least balance it and things like that. But it does,
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  Speaker 1: it does. Yeah, I wish.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, You've got two Australian acts in the Gloom in
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  Speaker 2: the Corner and Drag as national supports for this. Joe
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  Speaker 2: so do you know much about them hands on with
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  Speaker 2: the selection process.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we met actually this last run. Some of the
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  Speaker 1: guys were working on the last run that we did
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  Speaker 1: with In Heart's Way and Paleface. That's how we met,
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  Speaker 1: and we just got to talking and said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we'd like to come back. We don't want to wait
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  Speaker 1: another ten years to come back, so we would like
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  Speaker 1: to come back sooner. And if we did, would you
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  Speaker 1: guys like to do something. We wanted to get some
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  Speaker 1: people from over here from over there, I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: they were cool and we just kept in touch and
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  Speaker 1: ended up making it work. So that's kind of cool.
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  Speaker 2: Nice right doing it. And you turned on the back
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  Speaker 2: of two albums released last year with Ross Belt New
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  Speaker 2: Medal and K seven Roussbelt New Medal two. So are
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  Speaker 2: they going to dominate the setlist story? You spread it
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  Speaker 2: out a bit brighter.
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  Speaker 1: We'll try to play as many things as we can
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  Speaker 1: because we're also putting out Ross Belt New Metal three
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  Speaker 1: right now, and so we did those Ross Belt New
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  Speaker 1: Metal three. We did those three records in a year,
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  Speaker 1: but we're that one's acoustic, unplugged kind of thing, so
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  Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff will be from our last
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  Speaker 1: several records. But as I was saying before, we've only
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  Speaker 1: ever played for a half hour. So we're going to
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  Speaker 1: try to spread out all of the records and play
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  Speaker 1: stuff from each one, so as as many things as
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  Speaker 1: we can play, because a lot of we haven't a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people haven't heard a lot of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that we have. For I don't know how many records. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you said K seven, So we have seven records, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so we need to maybe pick a few from each one.
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  Speaker 1: And but also we don't play the same set list
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  Speaker 1: every night, so we're going to play as many things
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  Speaker 1: we can do.
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  Speaker 2: Those two albums I mentioned, they're both unique in the
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  Speaker 2: fact that they're recorded in one day in front of
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  Speaker 2: a live audience of fifty people. Like, that's a great
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  Speaker 2: little idea. Wait where did that come from?
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  Speaker 1: About the desire to do that, just constantly thinking of
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  Speaker 1: ideas that I don't see anyone else doing. We were thinking,
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  Speaker 1: we have something coming up that we're going to do
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  Speaker 1: that is pretty crazy, and so we were thinking, what
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  Speaker 1: is the opposite of that? And then we got to
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  Speaker 1: thinking what about a Because a lot of our music
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  Speaker 1: is kind of cinematic soundtracky and big atmosphere, and that's
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  Speaker 1: the type of stuff we like. But when you come
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  Speaker 1: up with a theme or a character or a type
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  Speaker 1: of feeling for a record you kind of like to make.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say rules or boundaries, but I
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  Speaker 1: like to narrow in on an idea or a concept.
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  Speaker 1: And so we started talking about, what have we just
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  Speaker 1: made this record just in a live room, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And then I had this profound experience I've talked about
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  Speaker 1: it in other places before, where I had this kind
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  Speaker 1: of vision of doing it three times in the year
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  Speaker 1: and having it be in a live room but also
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  Speaker 1: in front of people. And that was just Whenever something's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit I don't want to say intimidating, but
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  Speaker 1: you haven't done it before novel, I guess, or or
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  Speaker 1: or unusual or or something, I think it presents a
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  Speaker 1: challenge to us that we get excited about because it
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  Speaker 1: seems like, well, how would we do that? And if
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  Speaker 1: that's if that's where you start, then that's a good
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  Speaker 1: sign for me. Whenever someone you know is pitching an
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  Speaker 1: idea or we're sitting around thinking it has to start,
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  Speaker 1: it can't be like you we're going to go make
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  Speaker 1: a record, it has to you have to say something
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  Speaker 1: that gets everyone's attention, and it has to be challenging.
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  Speaker 1: I guess if that makes any sense or else it's
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  Speaker 1: not exciting for anyone. So it also has to be
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  Speaker 1: you have to be unsure you can do it, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And had that did you choose those fifty people and
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  Speaker 2: did you speak tore them after us to engage their experience.
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  Speaker 2: But there's not something that happens every day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have. So we had a VIP kind of
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  Speaker 1: ticket sale thing where they would it was like a
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  Speaker 1: limited number and some people came to every single one
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  Speaker 1: of them. And the limited number was just because we
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  Speaker 1: wanted to keep it small. The studio could fit probably more,
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  Speaker 1: but we wanted to kind of be exclusive. We didn't
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  Speaker 1: want it to be a crowd doing all types of stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but we wanted We were thinking when we came up
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  Speaker 1: with the idea that if we liked a band, we
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  Speaker 1: would like to see this type. Like if Marilyn Manson
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  Speaker 1: was recording a record and was like, yeah, you can
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  Speaker 1: come to the studio, we would want to be there.
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  Speaker 1: So we just think about it from that perspective of
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  Speaker 1: what would we want to see our favorite bands do
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  Speaker 1: what would we want to see from our from our bands?
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's kind of what it was. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll spend the whole day with them. We usually it'll
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  Speaker 1: start around noon ish and uh, I'll have one of
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  Speaker 1: my friends out there doing barbecue or like making pizzas
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  Speaker 1: or something like that, so they'll have food and things,
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  Speaker 1: and then we'll come in and we'll do the recording session,
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  Speaker 1: which usually takes a couple hours, and then we do
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  Speaker 1: a meet and greet. We kind of hang out for
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  Speaker 1: a while talking to everyone, and it's it's actually pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: It's Yeah, so we spend the whole day with them basically,
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  Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of first come, first serve.
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  Speaker 2: Though.
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  Speaker 1: We we tell our mailing list that this is what
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  Speaker 1: we're going to do, just this is when it's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen. Da da da da da, if you're interested
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  Speaker 1: in this, and then it's became a pretty cool group
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  Speaker 1: of people. Actually, it's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, did you say the third one is acoustic? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that would have been an interesting take on things.
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  Speaker 1: That was a bit. Yeah, it's kind of like we
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  Speaker 1: grew up watching those MTV on plugs and taking ad
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  Speaker 1: ideas from that and not as high production value, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's still it's still pretty cool and I
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  Speaker 1: think that's what all the videos are. We released two
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  Speaker 1: songs from that record so far, so we released one
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago and released we released one
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  Speaker 1: on Friday as well. So it's pretty cool because the
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  Speaker 1: videos are the live performances of the songs. You see
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  Speaker 1: the people in the studio and stuff like that, and
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  Speaker 1: that's what all the videos have been for this past year,
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  Speaker 1: for all the three of these records. So it was
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. And also we wanted to switch it
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  Speaker 1: up a little bit so every record, but you.
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  Speaker 2: Got your vital cells not let's say, it's not conducive
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  Speaker 2: to really, So how did you how did you go
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  Speaker 2: with that? Was it was it hot to do?
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  Speaker 1: No? I just do whatever I know how to do.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know if it sounds good or not.
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  Speaker 1: Someone has to someone has to let me know, but
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  Speaker 1: reel me in or try to. Someone has to reel
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  Speaker 1: me in. I'm doing the wrong thing out here, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. A lot of the stuff that I
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  Speaker 1: like or listen to is close to what my range
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  Speaker 1: would be. Some of the more storytelling, softer stories telling,
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  Speaker 1: stuff like Leonard Cohen or Nick Cave or something like
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  Speaker 1: that that's kind of that same register that bossip perfundo voice.
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  Speaker 1: It is not necessarily just storytelling.
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  Speaker 2: So you mentioned before something crazy about your next album.
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  Speaker 2: Can you can you reveal any details.
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  Speaker 3: In that or.
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  Speaker 1: That one's a little too far out. I'm gonna have to.
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  Speaker 1: It's a big deal to us, and it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be it's a big event for us, and I think
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  Speaker 1: it's the best record we've ever made. But I know
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  Speaker 1: everyone says that about them about the record that they
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  Speaker 1: have coming up because they want people to buy it.
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  Speaker 1: But since everything's free these days, I don't have any stake,
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  Speaker 1: and it really is the best one. So you just
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  Speaker 1: have to stay stay tuned. It'll be we release so
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  Speaker 1: much stuff so quickly and so often that you won't
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  Speaker 1: really have to wait long. So it's not going to
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  Speaker 1: be a thing where you're gonna have to wonder what
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  Speaker 1: the hell I was talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Because all right, David, well, thanks very much for your time,
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  Speaker 2: made pleasure speaking with you. The Chre kicks off March
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  Speaker 2: fourth in Allelaide, so I'll be at the Brisbane show Brothers,
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  Speaker 2: so best of luck with the have fun.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, I'll see it soon.