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Hello everybody and welcome along to the Event Industry News Podcast with
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me, James Dixon, wishing you all a very good morning, afternoon, or evening,
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whenever or wherever you tune into today's podcast
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from. And today's podcast is, I guess, all about language
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really. Maybe we take it for granted sometimes, I'm sure we do,
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you know. I always feel very privileged that, you know, one of my
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jobs in the events industry is just to sit here, you know, once a week
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chatting to guests and talking to people and hopefully facilitating
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some sort of conversation, which I guess all sort of flows into,
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uh, in some respects what we're going to be talking about today. My guest today
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is the founder and CEO of TranslateAble, Julia Danmary.
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Julia, a very warm welcome to the podcast. How are you, first of all?
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I'm good, thank you. Thank you for having me. You're very welcome.
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And, um, yeah, hopefully I've framed a little bit of the conversation
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today in terms of, you know, stressing the importance of language that
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sometimes is taken for granted, and how we communicate
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with other people is critical to the events industry
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and is very much going to sort of form the basis of what we're going
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to be discussing ourselves today. Before we get into that, Julia, if you would,
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for our podcast listeners, just frame a little bit about yourself
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and what your own background is and where your journey has brought you through
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to today as the founder of TranslateAble. Yeah, of course.
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So basically, so language has always been my background. So I studied languages at
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university, did the whole year abroad thing, and then came out of university
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and happened to get into the events industry, not even realizing what
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a perfect fit it would be for my languages. So basically, from that point onwards,
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I've then ended up using my languages to run events,
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to negotiate contracts, to actually be client-side for translation
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interpreting services. As well. So languages to me,
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as well as obviously being a love because I studied them, have been just super
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useful for organizing events as well. And it
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was kind of from that that I founded TranslateAble as well, from my experience
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of working client side with translators, interpreters, and kind of building
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something specifically for the events industry because I noticed there were
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kind of some little bits that could be improved to fit our
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industry better. And, and What I
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suppose, if you can frame what TranslateAble actually supplies
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to the events industry, because you've pivoted from being an
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organizer really, as you said, sort of client side, and you're now a supplier.
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So when you decided to become a supplier, what did you want to supply and
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what does TranslateAble do for the clients that you now supply to?
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Yeah, that's it. So I was basically ops for 20 years,
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so the services that we supplier, very much like I say geared towards
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the events industry. So we're kind of like a one-stop shop for language services.
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And so we provide written translation, we provide
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interpreters, and that can be— hello pup! So in
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the background, somebody's clearly just knocked at my front door. They're speaking
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now in their own language. You've got delivery. Yes.
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So translation for the written side, we've got interpreters, and that
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can be kind of remote or in person. Sign language interpreters,
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captioning. Yep, that's it,
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that's what we provide and it's basically kind of in any language and in
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any country and it can be remotely or in person. I looked on
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your website before we came on this link today
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to do the recording and one of the first things that jumped out
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at me was that you do provide all of those levels of service because I
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know that some organisations um, very much are
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advocates for, you know, uh, for sign language,
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for example. There are agencies out there that provide sign language interpreters specifically
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for events, and people are— a lot of people are very big advocates of that.
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Um, I've had people sort of push back a little bit sometimes on deploying
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technology-based platforms to deliver things like closed captioning,
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but it's, it's, it's important, and I, I guess commendable
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in some respects, that all of those different services that are now available for
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the event for event organizers are actually available from you guys. Obviously a conscious decision
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there to go down that route, I guess. Yeah, exactly that. And it's kind
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of developed with time as well, based on what people have asked for as well.
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The reason for, um, that kind of list
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of services is just because from my experience working in event ops,
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you are so busy, your to-do list is really
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long. So if you can kind of have one supplier that can do XYZ
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and you don't need to go to 3 different suppliers, you can just go to
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one, that makes life so much easier. You know what the of services,
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you've got one point of contact, and it's basically just for ease
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as well. And I also found that a lot of people that come to using
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language services are doing it for the first time as well, so it really,
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really helps if, yes, we do in person, but actually we do remote
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as well, and where they don't know the differences sometimes, you can let them know
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what the differences are, let them know the different price options as well, because in
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events we've obviously got to stick to budgets really closely a lot of the time,
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so it's being able to provide the options for people.
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And it's important as well to stress and frame
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that when we talk about translation and language services,
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you know, yes, events are international, yes, a lot of events have international
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visitors, and so you want that capability to be able to deliver event content in
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different languages to make it accessible as possible for, you know,
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international visitors. But it's also important to identify and
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understand that language also has to fall into
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different accessibility needs that people have now. People who are hard of
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hearing, you know, people who might not be able to interact in
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a quote-unquote normal way in terms of both speaking and hearing
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and listening. So, you know, we have to factor in all
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of those different elements now. Yeah, that's it.
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There's kind of— there are so many people to take into consideration.
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I think sometimes we're very quick, again because
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our to-do lists are so long as event organisers, just to want to tick stuff
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off the list. But actually, there are so many different types of people
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to take into consideration and kind of knowing firsthand, like,
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I speak other languages as well, and kind of knowing that if I were in
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a room and they were doing absolutely everything in French, like, yes, I would
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understand, but would I be confident enough to actually get involved in the
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conversation and feel really involved?
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So there are lots of different things to think about. I think a lot of
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the time people will say, well, everyone speaks English, but actually
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they don't. So as an example, lots of people speak
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sign language as their first language, as an example, not English.
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And yeah, lots of people, yes, kind of, you may be French and you may
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speak English, but if it's not your first language, how comfortable do you actually feel
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to really engage? Yeah, that's an interesting one that I
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wonder, you know, when event organizers ask, you know,
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It's something I've seen not regularly, but I have seen it on registration forms,
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you know, what is your first language, so that event organisers can actually
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adapt. Do they ever ask, is sign language your first
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language? Have you ever seen it on a registration? I haven't actually, to be quite
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honest. I don't think I've ever seen even the what is your first language on
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a registration form either.
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I'm sure that I've seen it, and I know that a lot of people will
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ask the sort of the country of origin
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of their guests or their delegates. So often, and they
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will use that as a way of maybe gauging what services
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they need to deploy, whether that be via technology or other
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means. So it'd be an interesting one to find out, you know, from an inclusion
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point of view, you know, it's usually left when
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I talk specifically about, you know, including somebody who's hard of hearing, for example,
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delegates who fall into that category, it's usually
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left for the delegate or the attendee to
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give advance warning in a lot of cases still that they have
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a certain accessibility requirement. Are we getting closer
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to more events adopting strategies just as a matter of course regardless
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of receiving those specific requests? Yeah, I mean, I can only speak
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kind of for obviously the events that I used to organize and the events
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that we quote on now. And being honest, kind of,
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there are some organisers that yes, they will provide sign language
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interpreters as standard, but there are kind of improvements that do need to be made
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for things like communicating actually. So okay, which sessions
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have got sign language interpreters? Making it really, really clear so someone doesn't have to
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go to all that extra effort to kind of find out
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what they can actually attend. But I do find kind of accessibility
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pages, I think, on websites seem to be better as well. But I do find
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the oneness is on the individual at the moment,
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um, to kind of make inquiries, whereas I feel it should be a
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lot clearer and provided as standard in a lot of occasions— well, on all occasions
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actually. Yeah, it's an interesting one. I guess, I guess that, that kind of would
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lead us down the path of, of sort of the wider, you know, accessibility and
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inclusion conversation, which we've had on the podcast before. Um, but,
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you know, I really wanted to sort of, you know, to take the time as
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well to explore all these different aspects of TranslateAble, and when it comes
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to sort of dealing with foreign language interpretation, loads and
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loads of great tools out there now. And one thing I wanted to ask
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you today is how, how much time do you have to invest as a business
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to maintain an awareness of all those different tools that are available
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now when it comes to sort of maybe recommending services or deploying
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services for your own clients? Do you have to stay quite aware and up
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to date with all these sort of different tech platforms that are available that can
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help? Absolutely, yeah, because that— it's got such an
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impact on the language industry now and kind of what people are actually looking for
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as well. And so it's really important we dedicate a lot of time to kind
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of knowing what's out on the market as well. And also because, yes, we offer,
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um, kind of interpreters, we offer human captioners,
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translation, that sort of thing, but we do recommend,
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um, tech platforms as well. So we don't own our own, um,
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AI captioning tool, for example, but we are aware of the ones that are out
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there, the ones that work well for our clients, and we kind of recommend,
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kind of actually, for the brief you've given us, this tool would be
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the best for your, your events. We kind of act as a broker, I guess,
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for these tools, just because what I guess what we're trying to do is
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just make life as easy as possible for people to adopt languages.
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So yes, we might not own our own platform, but if we can help you
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out and say to you, actually, we'd recommend this to you to save you time,
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we'd happily do that. Yeah, and in the tech
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world I think they call it platform agnostic, is what is the term that a
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lot of people use, which is a great position I guess
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for those businesses and yourselves to be in, is that, you know, by not having
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an allegiance or your own platform as such, it allows you to understand
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and identify the needs of your client in order to then recommend
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the service that might be best for them. Yeah, exactly, and sometimes
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it's kind of a mix of sometimes they'll have captions and then they'll also have
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sign language interpreters, so it just makes
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life easier. For everyone basically, if we kind of have a real in-depth
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knowledge of all the tools that are out there and can provide the advice they
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need. Well, can you reference back to when you first
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really sort of saw an example of this really working
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and have an impact? Does it go back to your days actually operationally
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working, you know, in events where actually you saw the deployment
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of a particular service during an event where you thought
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this needs to happen, this really needs to sort of improve, and this is a
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great example of why? There are so many little things
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I could tell you about. I'm trying to think of kind of examples
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that are the most poignant at the moment. I think one personal example for me,
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I was organizing an event in France. This is kind of in terms of
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just communication, getting things
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done, I guess. So I was kind of doing an event in France, we were
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waiting for absolute ages for an electrical cable to be moved, kept ringing, kept ringing.
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Standard, really. Um, yeah, absolutely. There's a thousand people
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listening to this today going, yeah, been there. Exactly. So I,
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I saw an electrician, so I grabbed him, and in French I said to him,
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like, please, can you help me move this cable? Waiting for ages. And he said,
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because you've asked me in French, I'm going to come with you and I'm going
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to do it right now. So I was like, oh, this is background win.
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Amazing. So that's kind of one example. Another one was an event.
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It was a launch event, and it was in France,
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and the client
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had assumed that again people would speak English.
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So there was kind of like a mixture of English and French sessions throughout
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this 2-day conference, and I remember the feedback at the end was basically like,
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you're organizing an event in France and you've got kind
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of an equal number of, or even kind of less French speakers than
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you have English. So that was kind of another
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thing, people's kind of Maybe, I guess,
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a lack of awareness of languages was one thing.
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Um, can I just chip in with something here? Because you've just reminded me
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of, of, um, my first experience of working over in, in America
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on a trade show as a freelancer a few years ago, 2023 I
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think it was. And, um, the realization of
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the old phrase, you know, 2 countries separated by a common language, I think it's
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something like that, between Britain and the USA, uh,
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just how much we had to change. We never gave a second
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thought to, to, to the language aspect of it when we went to work
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in America and deliver a trade show in the USA. And yet we've,
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we realized fairly quickly how much we were going to have to change, both with
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our written word spellings. You want to change them to localized
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spellings to make them relevant to the market that you're serving. So we had to
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adapt all of our written documentation to make sure that organization
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was spelled with a Z, a Z, not an S, you know.
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So there was the written language aspect of it, but then things like,
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you know, we call them an exhibition stand over here and they call it a
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booth. Yeah, all those different phrases.
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And there were a number of times where I said to people on site,
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I asked for something, they said, what are you talking about? And I realized,
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all right, I need to ask for it in a different way because they use
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a different phrase or terminology to do that. So Again,
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you know, just it's reminded me of that, that even working with
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what is fundamentally the same language, we have to be aware of how quickly
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we might need to adapt in events. Yeah, it makes me so happy when people
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raise that. So I didn't actually mention that as a list of services. I class
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that in part of translation, but localization is a big part of it because you
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do have countries as America and the UK that speak the same language,
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but actually there are so many different terms within those languages.
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So kind of when you do translate for a
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specific country, it's got to be for that particular country for
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it to kind of to land. So localization is massively important.
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And the same, so when I did a show in America as well, it's kind
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of, what do these words mean? Like the pipe and drape as well,
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kind of. Yeah, yeah,
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yeah. All these kind of this terminology that,
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do you know what, drayage, unless you've worked in
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an event or on an event in the USA, I dare say nobody
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would ever, ever stumble or encounter the word
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drayage. And when you see it for the first time, you think,
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what on earth are people talking— because in, in the
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UK, I know what a drayman is. Dray and drayman
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refers to somebody who delivers beer. That's what a drayman is.
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A drayman, for anybody who doesn't know out there, is somebody who works for
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a brewery who delivers the beer barrels to pubs and to places that need beer.
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So when you see somebody with their van rolling a barrel of beer down the
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street and into a pub, that person is a drayman. So when I saw the
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word drayage over, you know, on documentation, I'm thinking, why are all— why
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do we have to deal with people delivering beer to our trade show in
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Las Vegas? You know, so it's a weird thing sometimes when we use words
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for different things. No, that's it. Yeah, definitely.
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Um, Sorry, my phone started ringing in the background and I lost the trailer.
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This was what I was rambling about beer.
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No, that's it. Yeah, but yeah, all that sort of terminology, it kind of can
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be really confusing for people. Like, it's— I think it hammers
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home just how different our terminology is when we're
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explaining event-specific terminology to
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translators. So we basically, we keep a glossary because a lot of the stuff that
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we translate is for kind of event suppliers, exhibitor manuals,
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event-specific related things. So there is
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kind of lots of words that you just take for granted that people know what
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they are, like shell scheme, space only,
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or even a vehicle door, and people come back and they're just like, uh,
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what is that? So we've basically got glossaries in kind
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of what it is in English, what it is in US English as well,
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and then kind of in the various languages that we've translated into
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as well, just because there is just so much specific terminology depending on
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which sector you're working in.
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I mean, that, that, that's, that, that's fascinating in itself because
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again, when we started today's conversation, my brain
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was leaning towards services for the attendees and the delegates, the visitors of events,
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and it hadn't dawned on me that actually what you provide as a service to
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organizers could help them as much with the planning of their international events
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as much as actually services to provide to the delegates and
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the visitors and the attendees of those events. Because as we've just alluded to,
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you know, you can, you can work in somewhere or in a territory where the
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language is fundamentally the same and still encounter issues. So when you're dealing perhaps
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with UK organizers who are wanting to then go and deliver an event in France
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or in Germany or in the Middle East or
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in, you know, the Asian subcontinent, you know,
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is there an element of your business as well that is set up specifically to
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help organizers with those pre-event tasks and all of that level
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of communication that's got to go on? Yeah, absolutely. Yes, we work with all
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different departments, so it's it's ops, it's marketing,
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it's sales, conferences, as well as the supplier side of things.
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And kind of as you mentioned, it's not just supporting visitors when they're
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on site, it can also be within a company.
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So for example, if someone acquires a business that's based in—
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someone UK-based acquires a company in Germany and they mainly speak
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German, we'll kind of support with paperwork there, or we'll do HR training
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or support them on HR training, sorry, in different languages.
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So it can be kind of for events, but also for events
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companies themselves as well. And yet it's all sorts of stuff.
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It's kind of Visprom, it could be Exprom, it can be the on-site
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conferences. So yeah, it's pretty much kind of anything language
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related, basically. Fabulous. I mean, again,
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I just want to— I found it useful over the years of doing this
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podcast and sort of as it has evolved,
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you know, alongside my own sort of career and experiences of working hands-on
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in the events industry as a freelancer. That I've,
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I've had these experiences. And from an accessibility
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point of view, I had a very small event,
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relatively speaking, last year that I was delivering as a one-man,
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you know, freelancer. And it was a, a conference,
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and it was 60, 70 delegates, something like that, in a hotel up
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in the northeast of England. And we got a request a week before to
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say that somebody who was coming was hard of hearing and did we have any
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way of them interacting with the session delivering some captions. And literally
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with a computer monitor that I bought a bracket for to attach to
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a stand and place at the front of the— right
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next to the lectern where the speaker was going to be, and I had
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an iPad as well with the same technology running on it, I was able to
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literally with a few basic tools, you know, a laptop, a basic audio mixing
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desk, and an interface, I was able to deploy a
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tech platform to generate closed captions for this person.
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It was really easy to set up. It was
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accessible from a price point of view. It wasn't expensive at all. It was a
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one-day simple one-off cost to give us one day access to this platform.
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And it really sort of shone a light to me on how much
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of a better situation we are as a whole industry with these
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services that are available now, that it's not just confined to the
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big budget events who can bring in translators or bring in this technology.
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Now this flows right down to those sort of smaller single-day
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events for a handful of people where where there's technology available. I just thought
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what a great situation that we are in now from a language point of view
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and from an accessibility point of view that we have all these levels that are
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available. Yeah, that's it. I feel like that it definitely has made a difference.
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Kind of, I'm often asked, oh, how has AI affected the language industry?
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And although I probably wouldn't say this to many translators or interpreters, I kind of
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feel like it makes people think about languages more because the price point is a
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little bit different. So I think it does make, well, it does make events more
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accessible for people, so I think that is great. I guess
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my only thing is it is a shame that things aren't implemented at the very
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start of an event and that you do have to kind of rush because
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somebody has asked for something, you have to rush to implement it.
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It'll be really great if it was kind of, uh, kind of there
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from the very, very start. Um,
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absolutely, and ultimately I think, I guess it's shadowed by the cost
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point of view, because a lot of organisations still assume, well, that's going to add
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an extra layer of cost. That it's only when they get the request in and
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they start exploring it and they realise how accessible price points are now
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for services out there that they might realise, oh, actually, this is something
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that we could integrate from the start without having to worry about it too
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much. I think a lot of people still assume that the costs are going to
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be high. Yeah, that's it. And that was another reason that kind of we wanted
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to offer a multitude of services just so we could present people
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with different cost options because not everyone has got an all-singing, all-dancing budget.
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I mean, I've worked on kind of a shoestring budget many
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a time before, so I know what it's like, which is why I thought it's
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a great idea to have these different levels and this is what you'll get for
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all these different services. So to make it more accessible for people, absolutely,
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definitely. I think that's really important.
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I'm, I'm chuckling because I remember, you know, instances before where— and we've
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probably all been there on holiday— where we've used Google Translate to maybe
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help us communicate with somebody. And, and you, you ask it the question
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or whatever you want to say, and it spits it out, and you get a
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kind of complete, completely weird look from somebody because,
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you know, it's not anything like what you actually want to ask. And we—
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when you think about colloquialisms just in the English language and how
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many different colloquialisms there are and accents, just, you know,
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in England alone, I think sometimes,
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particularly as English, like, as a first language English speaker, we are
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quite ignorant as a whole to that could be
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applicable to other languages as well, you know, that it's not just us that
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has colloquialisms and accents, and that getting Google Translate to just spit it out on
23:48
your phone might not actually get the results that you want. I know, I know,
23:52
I know. Um, yeah, that is very true, and I have had a really strange
23:55
experience with it, Google Translate, as I remember kind of someone from Airbnb came over
24:00
and I could tell from their face they were telling me a really sad story,
24:03
but what Google was saying was completely and utterly inappropriate. So I was just like,
24:06
you're definitely not saying this to me.
24:10
Like, nod along and pretend I knew what she was saying to me.
24:14
But yeah, I mean, kind of accents, yeah, they can prove difficult. And that's another
24:18
thing, kind of when people tend to say, oh, but everyone speaks English, but do
24:21
they understand all the— because we have so many accents for such a small place
24:25
as well, don't we? It's kind of, but do they Yeah, how much do they
24:28
understand? And in particular, if there are certain accents, how much of an accent do
24:32
they understand if English isn't their first language as well? So there are so many
24:35
things that you need to take into consideration, I think,
24:39
rather than just blanket everyone speaks English. Languages,
24:43
it is a fascinating thing the more you get into it. I live in Yorkshire
24:47
and I moved here when I was 18 from West London and I've lived
24:51
here ever since and for the first sort of 3 years of
24:55
being here, I had to ask people 2 or 3 times what on
24:59
earth they were saying. I had— I, I, I, I— there were certain people with
25:02
really broad Yorkshire accents, and I honestly couldn't, couldn't understand what they
25:06
were saying. I still have family that come up here to visit, and I'll introduce
25:09
them to friends, and then they'll nod with a smile on their face,
25:13
and the— and, and when the conversation finishes, they'll turn to me and go,
25:16
what did they just say? Lovely, but what were they
25:20
talking about? It is, it is, it is fascinating. And yet, and yet
25:23
we persist trying run international events and a
25:27
lot of people still don't consider it, you know, they'll just bang an email out
25:30
in English and expect a decent response. Yeah, that's it.
25:34
And kind of most of the time, I had a read of something recently that
25:37
most people will only kind of look at websites. I say most,
25:41
but 85% in Europe, something like that, don't quote me on that
25:44
stat, would only look at websites in their own language,
25:48
or people will pay more money if they could have the information for
25:53
a product if they could have the information in their own language.
25:56
So I do, I just feel that language is very much overlooked
26:02
into how much they can kind of engage people,
26:05
reel them in, get them to contribute and also engage
26:09
with the product. Yeah, and is there a danger and I guess a worry from
26:14
a company like yours that with the advent of AI tools and more
26:18
people using them that they're gonna just whack it
26:22
into an AI tool and think, oh, that'll work, I don't have to do anything
26:25
like that. Is there a worry from you that the level of consideration
26:29
that needs to be given on the importance of language, translation,
26:33
accessibility might be removed a little bit because people might
26:37
just think, oh well, I've got an AI tool there, I can use that?
26:40
I feel people had done that even before AI, kind of thought that Google Translate
26:44
was sufficient, but that you generally kind of see
26:49
it in the results that that perhaps doesn't work
26:53
and I kind of feel the industry that we're in as well, everything is so
26:57
people-oriented as well and like yes I can
27:01
kind of see where captioning could perhaps take over say
27:05
interpreters for example but actually if you're an exhibitor on
27:09
a stand you need to interact with a visitor that's standing right in front of
27:12
your face, you're going to want a person there to kind of your
27:16
product. So I
27:20
feel like while there are some areas that definitely AI could
27:23
take over a little bit more, there are some areas which you can't
27:27
replace. I remember one example of a panel session
27:31
at an event that I was working at, and one of the
27:35
panelists required BSL interpreters,
27:38
and they required 2 interpreters, and we had to— and
27:42
quite a few people said, why do they need 2? And we had to explain
27:47
that, you know, one interpreter there is there to interpret what everybody
27:51
else is saying in the room, the other panelists and maybe the audience questions,
27:54
to the person on the panel so they can stay up to speed
27:58
with what's being said in the room. And then when they reply as a panelist
28:01
in sign language— excuse me— the, the other
28:05
BSL interpreter actually had a microphone and
28:09
was sat in the front row to then deliver what that person was saying into
28:13
the spoken word that the audience could hear. Excuse me,
28:16
frog in the throat. And, and, and I was fascinated because I'd never seen that
28:20
before, and I realized that that's something that could never have happened
28:25
even with the best internet connection and the best sort of, you know, interpretation technology
28:29
platform to facilitate such a quick two-way conversation with
28:34
somebody on stage who, who only spoke using sign language, communicated using
28:38
sign language. I thought was amazing to see. And I realized just
28:42
how important the human element of translation still is,
28:46
regardless of how good the technology can be. Yeah, that's it.
28:49
And we often kind of, even kind of with conferences and things, we often
28:53
find that the speakers want to kind of catch up with the interpreters
28:57
to let them know what they're talking about as well,
29:01
to kind of make sure that they understand and that sort of thing. So I
29:04
think specifically in events, the human touch is, you can't
29:09
really replace it in many areas. Yeah, and it's very apropos what events
29:13
are fundamentally, isn't it? You know, events are human connections,
29:17
is getting people together. So, you know, regardless of— I always find
29:21
it sort of the great paradox of the events industry that we're constantly talking about
29:24
new technologies and ways that technology is reshaping the events industry,
29:28
but it's helping us to deliver and helping us to reshape what is
29:31
fundamentally still a a person-to-person,
29:34
an industry built on human interactions. So,
29:38
you know, that there is that sort of great paradox there. It's been fascinating having
29:41
a chat with you today, Julia. Thanks for sort of coming on and sharing
29:44
a little bit of insight into what you guys do. It would be great
29:49
if you could, if you've still got a minute or so, to just let us
29:51
know how people find out about you. If they want to, you know,
29:54
communicate with you at TranslateAble, how do they get in touch? So you
29:58
can pop onto our website. We've got kind of our contact details there, which is
30:01
translateable.com. We've also got our Instagram, which is
30:05
translate_able, or you can find me,
30:08
Julia Danmary, on LinkedIn. Fabulous. And we'll,
30:11
we'll, uh, we'll put some links and, and all that information as well into the,
30:16
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and there'll be some information in the description as well for, uh, for anybody
30:27
who's listening today who would like to access and find out a little bit more
30:30
about what Julia and the team at TranslateAble actually do. Julia, it's been
30:34
great. Thanks very much for taking a little bit of time out on an undoubtedly
30:37
busy Monday to have a chat with us. Thank you. Thank you for having me.
30:41
It's been a pleasure. Thanks. Yeah, and before we wrap up today, just a couple
30:44
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31:45
Julia Danmairi from TranslateAble. It's been an absolute pleasure, and we'll see you on
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