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- 0:00You're listening to Bantor with the Boys, talking all things sports.
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- 0:14It's time for Bantor with the Boys.
- 0:23What's up everybody?
- 0:24Welcome back for another episode of Bantor with the Boys.
- 0:27We are talking week 8 of the NFL season.
- 0:31As always I have Mr. Smelty with me today.
- 0:33How we doing?
- 0:34How we feeling sir?
- 0:35Well, I could be feeling a little better, but I'm doing alright.
- 0:39Happy to be back for another ep.
- 0:42Great week of football, that's for sure.
- 0:45I could not agree more.
- 0:46It was a pretty good week here.
- 0:48We're going to recap 5 games here, but before we get any farther, I always have to thank
- 0:52our man behind the X's and O's, Mr. Cav Dog.
- 0:54Couldn't be here without your brother man.
- 0:56Yeah Cav.
- 0:58So I know I kind of went over this briefly last time in the middle of the episode, but
- 1:02just want to break down exactly how these episodes are going to lay out here.
- 1:05We have some upgraded audio equipment, so we should be good to roll out here every week
- 1:09and should be bringing you guys an episode every week.
- 1:12But as always, like, comment, subscribe.
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- 1:18As always you can get us on our Spotify channel also.
- 1:21So we are going to start each episode with 5 games that we are picking to be the games
- 1:27of the week, also including my favorite team, the Packers, Smelty's favorite team, the Vikings,
- 1:34are going to be included in either one or two of those games.
- 1:37So we're going to recap those 5 games.
- 1:39We're going to pick winners of those 5 games.
- 1:42We're going to keep a tally each week, and then the following week we are going to recap
- 1:45those games, and then also pick 5 new games of the next week's slate.
- 1:49In between that we are going to throw in our own personal segment here we're going to call
- 1:53Tent Talk.
- 1:54So that's going to be any big news that happened, whether it be an injury that came up, a signee
- 1:58in a trade, you know, as of this week for example, we do have the trade deadline approach
- 2:03us.
- 2:04We did have some big trades we will talk about, but that's going to be what that segment's
- 2:07going to be dedicated to.
- 2:09Then to recap Tent Talk, we are going to have Smelty have his own segment during the podcast
- 2:13here which is going to be the Bonehead Move of the week, which Smelty's just going to
- 2:17pick one of the biggest Bonehead Moves of the week here, and we're going to talk a little
- 2:20bit about that, throw some entertainment value into the podcast here so it's not just strictly
- 2:24football.
- 2:25And then as previously mentioned, we are going to then just pick the new 5 games, our 5 games
- 2:31of the week.
- 2:32We're also going to have a game of the week that are just our locks, the biggest game
- 2:35we're going to think of here, or the biggest, you know, for sure bet that we are going to
- 2:39pick during the week.
- 2:40Well let's get started sir.
- 2:43We had our two teams face off.
- 2:46My Packers were at home at Lambo.
- 2:49Your Vikings came in and our Packers looked just terrible.
- 2:54I'm going to get into it here a little bit more, but as a Vikings fan I'm sure this will
- 2:58bring you joy.
- 2:59Let me know how that game went sir.
- 3:02The game as a whole is bittersweet.
- 3:04Obviously we know why as we get into that in a little bit, but I'm going to take that
- 3:09W. In Lambo, and I'm going to tell you right now, when you guys come over to the bank,
- 3:15you ain't winning here either.
- 3:18Wait, no, we didn't play already here.
- 3:21Yeah, so when you do come here, that's what I thought.
- 3:23Back up.
- 3:24When you do come here, you ain't winning here either.
- 3:25So we'll go 2-0 on the Packers here this season.
- 3:28You heard it here.
- 3:29I don't know if Jordan Love will be the quarterback at that point or not, but yeah, no, I'm really
- 3:35thrilled with it.
- 3:37I think the game went well for Vikings in general.
- 3:40The defense looked ridiculous mixed with the Packers' inability to move the football.
- 3:45I mean, when you have to have your fans start going nuts over a first down, the first first
- 3:52down, that's wild.
- 3:54That says all you need to know.
- 3:57Like you know the offensive woes.
- 3:59What do you think is going on?
- 4:00What is stopping them from getting past this bump in the road?
- 4:05I mean, what it seems.
- 4:06The biggest thing that's contributing to our offensive woes is our offense hasn't changed
- 4:10since last year and we got rid of a generational talent at quarterback.
- 4:14You can't run the same offense as an Aaron Rodgers with the Jordan Love.
- 4:18We don't have top tier receiving threats that can go up and consistently win those one on
- 4:22ones or win those routes to when you have that Devontae Adams who you can throw the
- 4:26ball to and there's a very good chance he's going to come down with it regardless of what's
- 4:30around him or who's around him.
- 4:32We just don't have the receiving talent to run this offense.
- 4:36They're not getting as open as they would like to be and Jordan Love is just missing
- 4:41throws.
- 4:42You can't blame it all on LeFleur's system when there's throws that he's just flat or
- 4:45missing.
- 4:46He can't complete a deep ball.
- 4:47That's just completely out of the question at this point and for the first time in a
- 4:51very long time the Packers have some receivers that can actually stretch the field.
- 4:55We haven't had a Christian Watson.
- 4:57Jaden Reid has some wheels on him.
- 4:59We just don't do that and then on top of that we have Aaron Jones having seven carries.
- 5:04We're not going to win a lot of football games having Aaron Jones not touch the ball more
- 5:07than 10 times.
- 5:08I mean do you think Aaron Jones was on a pitch count though?
- 5:11Pitch count or not so AJ Dillon had seven carries.
- 5:14Jordan Love led the team in rushing with four carries for 34 yards.
- 5:18We had 17 total rushes.
- 5:20With four of those being QB whether they're designed or not, whatever, I can't remember
- 5:24honestly if they were or not.
- 5:25I'm assuming those are scrambling away and getting what you can.
- 5:29But yeah if that's the case your quarterback's scrambling away getting what he can and he's
- 5:33leading the team in rushing, that's weird.
- 5:37That's not good.
- 5:38It's not a good sign.
- 5:39Yeah and to me it comes down to the play cone.
- 5:41You're going against a Vikings defense that is not a great defense.
- 5:44Made them look really good last week when you're playing the Packers offense but they're
- 5:47not a top tier defense especially against the run.
- 5:50But you know they're going to be blitzing you at this point.
- 5:5350-50 chance they're coming.
- 5:56Flores ascending the house.
- 5:58Great.
- 5:59Designer run play that can you can run against the blitz.
- 6:00That's what I'm saying.
- 6:01They weren't ready for it.
- 6:02But you have to be ready for it.
- 6:05You have to be.
- 6:06The other thing is like the first half of every single game this year we cannot game
- 6:10plan going into a week.
- 6:13We cannot game plan going into a week.
- 6:14We can make the necessary halftime adjustments and come out a second half and actually look
- 6:18like a halfway decent offense.
- 6:20But we cannot game plan going into the week.
- 6:23Every single week our first half is just pitiful.
- 6:26No I hear you and I feel you in a way too because yes the Vikings got the win 24-10
- 6:34but the Vikings first quarter turnovers are just atrocious.
- 6:39So I understand the first half woes.
- 6:43I think this was the first time this season the Vikings have scored in the first quarter
- 6:47and I think it was a field goal if I'm not mistaken.
- 6:50I'm trying to remind I watched the whole game but you know that was a solid four days ago.
- 6:55But I still remember the win obviously but you know what I mean?
- 6:59Yeah.
- 7:00The Vikings first rushing touchdown of the year in the first quarter.
- 7:04Yeah okay that's what it is then.
- 7:05That's what it is.
- 7:07First score in the first quarter I'm pretty sure for us all season and then first rushing
- 7:10touchdown of the season which is crazy that it's Cam Akers considering Madison was supposed
- 7:15to be the guy.
- 7:16Madison's not the guy.
- 7:17I'll tell you that right now.
- 7:19He's I mean I've discussed it with you before.
- 7:22He's not a one running back.
- 7:25He's a 1-B-2 running back in this league.
- 7:27He needs that bulk how that can come and can carry the lion's share the Delvin Cook that
- 7:32he's had and come in and be complementary to that running back.
- 7:35He just can't handle the workload.
- 7:36Then for the Vikings it's time to give Cam Akers the fucking ball.
- 7:39I 100% agree with you.
- 7:41Like he had nine carries compared to Madison 16.
- 7:44No spread that out a little more.
- 7:45It's time.
- 7:46Akers has been here now I think this will be week three or four learning our playbook
- 7:52over here.
- 7:54I know KOC's got to have some up his sleeve for him.
- 7:57There's a reason why they brought him here and it's probably to be that 1-2 with Madison
- 8:01then start letting it happen.
- 8:04You know definitely got to get Akers the ball more.
- 8:07Madison's just simply not it and I really like this Addison cat.
- 8:11I predicted a couple weeks ago that he would you know go for 125 and two tubs.
- 8:15I was just a week away from that.
- 8:17He did it the following week but when JJ comes back and with Hockinson producing like he
- 8:24is that offense going to be scary.
- 8:28However you lost your quarterback.
- 8:30We did lose the quarterback you know and it's super unfortunate.
- 8:35Like it's not just obviously like that Kirk was cooking because he was the last couple
- 8:40weeks San Francisco and now in Green Bay.
- 8:44It's more than that.
- 8:45The dude's a leader on the team.
- 8:46The guys respect them.
- 8:48The league respect them.
- 8:49I mean there's guys around the league that respect Kirk because of just who he is as
- 8:52a person.
- 8:53So it just sucks for a guy too who really hasn't had injury history in the NFL.
- 8:59He's usually been pretty healthy.
- 9:01So it just sucks to see it for the guy.
- 9:05The Vikes got some interesting things to think about.
- 9:09You know they made a move.
- 9:11We'll talk about the move later and then they got the rookie.
- 9:14You know so we'll just see.
- 9:16We'll just see what they want to decide going into Atlanta.
- 9:20Jackson's going to be starting a different quarterback this week as well so that's shaping
- 9:24up for a good matchup but we'll talk about all that later.
- 9:27Yeah it's really unfortunate that he went down not only because he's playing the best
- 9:31football you could argue in his entire career.
- 9:33He's been a consistent quarterback this year.
- 9:35The biggest reason I know that is not that I'm a Packers fan living in Minnesota.
- 9:40He's my fantasy quarterback man.
- 9:42He's been great for me this year and I just lost a lot of consistency with that.
- 9:47So it is what it is.
- 9:50We'll get into his replacement a little bit later.
- 9:52Let's move on to the next game here.
- 9:54We had the Bengals going into San Francisco and taking on the 49ers and just fucking racking
- 10:01them dude.
- 10:02And that was a game the 49ers can't lose in my opinion.
- 10:07That's what their third loss in a row.
- 10:10Third loss in a row.
- 10:12Like you can't who did they lose to before the Vikings.
- 10:14I can't remember who it was.
- 10:15I gave them the first L. The Browns?
- 10:18So you're going to lose to the Browns.
- 10:19You go to Minnesota lose there and now you're going to go home and lose to the Bengals who
- 10:26are trying to find themselves.
- 10:27And now a couple weeks in a row I would say the Bengals have probably found themselves.
- 10:32I would agree with you.
- 10:33The Bengals look back.
- 10:34Joe Burrows back in his form.
- 10:35He was 28 for 32 for 283 and three touchdowns with the quarterback rating of 134.8.
- 10:41That's really really really hard to argue against.
- 10:44That was just an incredible stat line.
- 10:46He diced up this 49ers defense.
- 10:49He was sacked only three times but to be honest with you he didn't get pressured a lot throughout
- 10:52the game.
- 10:53That vaunted front seven of the Niners D. That's where their specialty is.
- 10:57They couldn't get to him.
- 10:59And that's been the Bengals offenses Achilles heel is not protecting Burrow because then
- 11:04you can get Joe Mixon opening up for 16 carries 87 yards.
- 11:09Jamar had 10 catches 10 yards on 12 targets.
- 11:12So it was the Bengals looked back.
- 11:16Their defense looked real good.
- 11:18Purdy doesn't look great brother.
- 11:20Dude I know that.
- 11:22Yeah for sure.
- 11:23I mean Purdy.
- 11:24All right.
- 11:25So first I want to go back to Burrow real quick and then we'll get into Purdy because
- 11:27yeah he it's interesting.
- 11:29It's interesting.
- 11:30So so Burrow actually started the game with 19 consecutive passes in the first half consecutive
- 11:37which is insane.
- 11:39And like you think that'd be some record.
- 11:40I don't know what the NFL record is.
- 11:42Someone would have thought I would look that up but I did not.
- 11:45However in Bengals history that makes Joe Joey B. Second in Bengals history first would
- 11:51be this dude named Ken Anderson.
- 11:53I have no idea who that is.
- 11:54I apologize.
- 11:55Bangle fans no clue because it's 1983.
- 11:59So I don't know.
- 12:00But he holds the record at 20 Joey B. Hit 19.
- 12:03That's pretty cool.
- 12:04He was on fire.
- 12:06He's on fire.
- 12:07His chase was open like he says he always is and he was on Sunday.
- 12:12Absolutely.
- 12:14And Joe Mixon always seemed to come up with a good run when they needed it.
- 12:18I did catch quite a bit of that game and every time they really needed some yards on the
- 12:23ground Mixon was there to clean him up.
- 12:25So but Purdy man the two picks he did have were kind of kind of bad.
- 12:32I mean I know the second one for sure.
- 12:33I mean right to the middle linebacker while the receivers right behind him and then there's
- 12:38still another two three defenders right around him.
- 12:41Like I don't know what you're seeing dude.
- 12:43There's four white jerseys there.
- 12:46What what are you looking at?
- 12:48Yeah I don't get that one either man.
- 12:49He's just staring him down throwing it right to him.
- 12:52Kind of looked like Jordan Love the other week.
- 12:55Yeah man there's not much else that needs to be said about this one.
- 12:58I don't know.
- 12:59The Bengals look great.
- 13:00The Niners are vastly vastly looking like a different team.
- 13:04They were just a couple weeks ago.
- 13:05I agree with you.
- 13:06I will say about the Niners is that George Kittle is proving again that he is that guy.
- 13:12I think personally George Kittle is the second best tight end in the league followed by Travis
- 13:17Kelsey and then Mark Andrews for me is third and then my boy TJ Hawkinson which people
- 13:24have him ranked a little higher.
- 13:25I don't see it right now.
- 13:27Hopefully he makes up for it considering he's I think the top paid tight end in the league
- 13:30but whatever.
- 13:32Stop talking about the Vikings.
- 13:34But yeah another thing too about the Niners is McCaffrey was kind of off.
- 13:38I didn't catch a whole ton of that game.
- 13:39Did he leave with an injury at all or anything like that because he had 12 carries but only
- 13:4454 yards four and a half yards of carry.
- 13:46He did have a tutty but he's kind of like with Debo.
- 13:51Debo was still out this game was he not?
- 13:53Yeah so with Debo out you really need that like explosive big play possibility and McCaffrey
- 14:00has that and it just didn't happen.
- 14:02So he also had six catches for 64 yards in a touchdown too though so he had over 110
- 14:07yards in 18 touches so you know that's pretty good production.
- 14:11It was I don't know man pretty just looks off and when the score is 30 won't do it.
- 14:16The score got away like it did.
- 14:18You can't keep running the ball as consistently when you're down you're going to have to pass
- 14:21and they incorporated him kind of into that Debo role in the passing game a little bit
- 14:25but 16 games now I think consecutive games with him having a touchdown.
- 14:30It's either 15 or 16 consecutive games with him having a touchdown.
- 14:33That's absolutely insane.
- 14:34He broke the record McCaffrey.
- 14:35McCaffrey oh okay.
- 14:36Yeah he broke the record.
- 14:37Yeah I didn't even know he caught that many balls like I said I didn't see that game particularly
- 14:42too much but yeah I mean obviously I have to recant some of what I said because he obviously
- 14:47had a pretty solid game.
- 14:50Yeah he put it together but that's crazy.
- 14:52I think the last I saw is if you would have bet I remember if it was like 10 or 100 bucks
- 14:56on Christian McCaffrey touchdown and rolled that over each game you'd be over like 400k
- 15:01and what you actually made off of that if you just kept rolling the money over which
- 15:05is just absurd.
- 15:06That's insane.
- 15:07Another thing about Purdy real quick and then we'll move on here.
- 15:10Purdy also didn't have I swear I saw this he didn't have an interception at home or
- 15:16he had one interception at home in every home you know all the home games he's played to
- 15:20this point in his career which obviously isn't many but he only had one and then he went
- 15:24off and threw two at home in his comfort zone and they were bad so yeah it's just it's really
- 15:29interesting something to keep an eye on for next week.
- 15:34Yeah I guess we'll see.
- 15:36Yeah most definitely most definitely.
- 15:37Well let's go on to the next game here we have the Seahawks and the Browns.
- 15:43Seahawks won that game 24-20 great game arguably the best game of the week per se in terms
- 15:50of how the game was played.
- 15:52We have PJ Walker still in at quarterback for the Browns.
- 15:55He didn't look great this game after he looked halfway decent against the Colts and the Niners.
- 15:59Kareem Hunt 14 carries 55 yards didn't look great either you know we did score but that's
- 16:07not a great you know yards per carry and then Jerome Ford didn't have the game I was expecting
- 16:12him to either with Pierre Strong Jr. getting a bulk of the carries also.
- 16:17Fun game to watch.
- 16:19What's up with Geno Smith this year man doesn't look like the same quarterback as last year
- 16:23and he has better talent.
- 16:25Yeah no 100% real quick 49ers are also on bye next week so my bad on that keep an eye
- 16:30on it after bye week but going back to Geno Smith.
- 16:36You don't really get it I mean he's got the big arm he's got the downfield ability we
- 16:40seen I mean we saw it on a pretty nice play to DK real deep over the shoulder.
- 16:48DK catches it perfectly it was like I don't know 50 yard play whatever but so we know
- 16:51Geno still got the arm in him but it's the decisions now who he's looking at is kind
- 16:58of weird.
- 16:59I mean it was quarterback play on both sides of the ball that game that was kind of off.
- 17:03I think the game could have been a lot more higher scoring if if the quarterbacks actually
- 17:08really showed up to play that game I feel like both didn't really play that well.
- 17:13But Geno specifically I don't know I don't think there's anything that I don't know
- 17:18he should be still producing at the level he did last year I mean he's still out here
- 17:24winning football games you know that's a fact.
- 17:28Yeah the Seahawks are five and two they've taken in control of that NFC West division
- 17:33at this point with the Niners going on their skid so they're doing what they need to do
- 17:38to win games.
- 17:39They made a big acquisition here at the deadline we'll get into that later but I don't know
- 17:45man the Seahawks they have so much talent on offense.
- 17:48They need to run more they need to run Kenneth Walker a little bit more.
- 17:52I would agree they only had 17 like carries the entire game and only eight with Kenneth
- 17:56Walker and he's you just can't.
- 17:58He's a potential game changer right and like he averaged 8.3 yards a carry well okay one
- 18:05carry he had what was it 25 24 yards oh 45 yarder so yeah so run them more man get him
- 18:16the touches he is that guy he is that guy let him open up the passing lanes.
- 18:22I'm 100% with you they also have the Zach Charbonnet cat who's been pretty good too
- 18:27you know he had five carries for 53 yards so they have that big threat ability at the
- 18:32run yeah they have that and it's not even like a thunder and lightning it's a lightning
- 18:36lightning right these cats are quick they can get in the open field and they're hard
- 18:40to get down so I think they need to focus more in that part of the game as well especially
- 18:45with Gino's decision-making being as questionable as it is.
- 18:49And this is something I just saw that I didn't notice.
- 18:53DK had 14 targets that game five receptions but 14 targets Lockett had nine Jackson Smith
- 19:03Negma had four but I guess what I'm trying to say is like maybe he's maybe T I mean if
- 19:11you're playing the Seahawks you already know DK is going to be an issue right you're already
- 19:14going to key on him a little bit but now that he's I mean 14 targets you're you got to be
- 19:20staring him down.
- 19:22Yeah and I mean even at that it's at 14 targets you have to have at least eight catches.
- 19:27Yeah right well or unless the throws are that bad.
- 19:31But if the throws are that bad.
- 19:32And DK's catch radius is be crazy.
- 19:34That's if they have 14 targets.
- 19:36Yeah right.
- 19:37That's you have to have more than five catches on that many targets.
- 19:40You're a receiver of his threat.
- 19:43Now I mean I just actually traded Kenneth Walker and DK Metcalfe in one of my fantasy
- 19:47leagues as a so him with Kyle Pitts for Patrick Mahomes Damien Pierce and Sam Laporta.
- 19:54Laporta.
- 19:55I'm hoping that the Seahawks don't do great.
- 19:59And then neither it's funny funny little quick story was neither one of us knew that we actually
- 20:03were playing each other this week.
- 20:04So you made that trade and now we're playing each other this week.
- 20:09That's actually hilarious.
- 20:10Yeah.
- 20:11But back to what actually matters here in the podcast.
- 20:14So yeah the Seahawks came on top it's kind of a sloppy game on both sides.
- 20:17You know two interceptions on each quarterback.
- 20:20Both quarterbacks fumbled once with P.J.
- 20:21Walker losing one of them.
- 20:23Gino recovered his.
- 20:26He didn't recover his it was recovered by the Seahawks.
- 20:29What do you think of P.J.
- 20:30Walker real quick.
- 20:31I don't know man.
- 20:32He's a it's a tough tough to judge because he's so new into the system.
- 20:36He's very inexperienced at the NFL level.
- 20:38He shows talent.
- 20:39He shows the potential but he's nothing more than a career backup to me.
- 20:44Does he deserve a spot on a 53.
- 20:47Absolutely.
- 20:48He's a better backup than shit.
- 20:49I'd take him as a starter over Jordan Love right now to be 100 percent honest with you.
- 20:53But it's I mean it's the Sean's team when he gets back.
- 20:56He's making all that money.
- 20:57No doubt.
- 20:58And right now any big play that really happened this weekend Amari Cooper was bailing him
- 21:03out.
- 21:04I mean Amari Cooper was the way Amari can move his body in midair is insane.
- 21:09So I just there's one play playing over and over in my head from this weekend and like
- 21:14it's just he kept he kept bailing bailing him out and no joke as well.
- 21:18They didn't really cover in the joke.
- 21:19Well but he only had the one play.
- 21:22He had the one big play for him.
- 21:23They didn't cover him at all on that play wide open.
- 21:25He was wide open.
- 21:26But I mean he had four catches on eight targets.
- 21:28Yeah.
- 21:29So you think a little bit more production out of him too.
- 21:31But that see and that's another thing if we're looking at targets Amari Cooper with six
- 21:35receptions on 11 targets that's an instance where I saw P.J.
- 21:39Walker make a lot of bad throws.
- 21:41Yeah.
- 21:42Just straight bad throws and nobody's catching that.
- 21:44Yeah most definitely most definitely.
- 21:46But yes Seahawks came out on top.
- 21:48They're five and two.
- 21:49They're in charge of that NFC West division.
- 21:53Browns going to four and three on the year still very much in that AFC North division.
- 21:56Very competitive AFC North.
- 21:58Very very competitive North this year.
- 22:00But let's move on.
- 22:02Next we have the Eagles going down to the nation's capital and taking on the commanders.
- 22:07This is a game that the Eagles should have just dog walk the commanders.
- 22:10The commanders are not a good football team.
- 22:12They made Sam Howell look like he more than belonged in this league.
- 22:16They won the game coming out on top at 38 to 31.
- 22:19But with this Eagles defense is what they what they were supposed to be coming into
- 22:23this year with their their front seven as what it was setting the NFL sack record next
- 22:27year.
- 22:28They had one sack on this catford for one sack and he really was not under pressure
- 22:33at all during the game.
- 22:34To be honest with you I thought the commander is going to come out on top this game.
- 22:37They should have.
- 22:38They really should have.
- 22:39Hurts played good.
- 22:41Hurts finally played good.
- 22:42But if Hurts didn't have AJ Brown if this team did not have AJ Brown right now they
- 22:46would be in shambles on offense.
- 22:48They would be in trouble.
- 22:49I agree 100 percent.
- 22:50It catches this guy makes and there's one that is going to be the catch of the year
- 22:53hard to beat with that one hand or that he was in this left hand pulled it down on the
- 22:58side as he was basically toe tapping in the end zone.
- 23:00Just absolutely spectacular catch.
- 23:03I don't know.
- 23:04I don't know what to say about this Eagles team.
- 23:05They're winning games.
- 23:06They're seven and one.
- 23:07They have the best record in the league.
- 23:09But what are they?
- 23:12I don't know if they know.
- 23:13I think that defense just needs to continue to gain more experience.
- 23:17I agree with you 100 percent.
- 23:18They should have your quote dog walked Washington this week and then they didn't.
- 23:24They let him stay in the game and then the fourth quarter was crazy.
- 23:28What the hell?
- 23:29I don't understand what's going on.
- 23:31I want to say it's just experience together as a unit is what they need.
- 23:36But like you said they're still seven and one.
- 23:39They're still figuring it out.
- 23:41Gosh I really want to disagree with you so hard on something to start something up.
- 23:48But you're right.
- 23:49And without AJ Brown they probably lose that game this weekend for sure.
- 23:56Oh absolutely.
- 23:57I mean just to touch on AJ Brown and his dominance as well.
- 24:00I don't remember exactly how many games.
- 24:02It's six or seven maybe even eight games now with over like consecutively with over 125
- 24:06yards setting the record there.
- 24:08That is just incredible.
- 24:10Just incredible.
- 24:11How many games?
- 24:12It's like it's six or it's six seven or eight.
- 24:14In a row?
- 24:15With 125 yards in a row.
- 24:17Oh my God.
- 24:18Like just stupid numbers this guy's putting up.
- 24:21He's just a freak of nature.
- 24:23So just like what do you think you're going to throw to?
- 24:25You know what's crazy about that?
- 24:26You know what's crazy about that Smelty?
- 24:28Him and DK Metcalf both second round picks in the same draft.
- 24:31Every single team could have drafted either one of them.
- 24:35Titans just giving away everything right now.
- 24:37Oh bro the Titans are not firefighting.
- 24:38I'm so glad he's not on that Titans team though.
- 24:41Yeah oh no 100%.
- 24:42No this was a great move for his career and dare you say like one's mentality.
- 24:48Like just like you're a part of a franchise that as the Titans I'm talking about like
- 24:54flirting with the playoffs but can't really get over that hump.
- 25:00And now you go to arguably one of the best teams in the NFL.
- 25:05One of the teams that have the most momentum in the NFL and I'm talking like season to
- 25:09season right now having the momentum coming into the season knowing who you are as a team
- 25:13already and continuing that on and now you see it there's seven and one but yeah what
- 25:19a career move for him.
- 25:21Lucky.
- 25:22Just think right now Smelty what would he be doing in Tennessee?
- 25:25His big ass will be run blocking for Derrick Henry.
- 25:29And they were even taking calls for Derrick Henry you know so like I know that's how they
- 25:35would be using him right now.
- 25:38But enough of kind of.
- 25:41But one thing you did mention right when you came into this game you said the Eagles defense
- 25:46made Sam Howell look like he belonged in the NFL.
- 25:49Are you saying you do not think Sam Howell belongs in the NFL?
- 25:53I guess I sort of maybe got a little bit in the moment there.
- 25:56He definitely belongs in the NFL.
- 25:57I think he's a starting quarterback in the NFL.
- 25:59Again I'd take him over Jordan Love right now.
- 26:01I really would.
- 26:02Dude Sam Howell with Christian Watson would be interesting.
- 26:05We'll see what happens.
- 26:06I mean he's had a couple good games this year.
- 26:08He's had a couple shaky games this year.
- 26:10So as you would expect out of a second year player I think he's proved he's an NFL quarterback.
- 26:17You know he's going to be in the league a long time whether that be in a starting capacity.
- 26:20Definitely need to see more consistency.
- 26:23They have all the weapons on offense.
- 26:24They don't have a great line.
- 26:26That's why that's what surprises me about the one sec is going into the game the commanders
- 26:31have the worst rated pass protection in the league.
- 26:35And you have all those dogs.
- 26:37Dogs.
- 26:38Dogs.
- 26:39Dogs.
- 26:40On defense for Philly.
- 26:41Yeah and I mean Jalen Carter got hurt.
- 26:43I don't even know if he actually played this game but he got hurt in the game.
- 26:45If he did I'm not.
- 26:47But that's that I don't know.
- 26:49I don't know.
- 26:50That's an interesting one man.
- 26:51But we'll see what happens with the Eagles.
- 26:53They got a big game this week which we'll get into later.
- 26:56But let's move on.
- 26:57So to round out the five games this week we didn't have a big game that really had a lot
- 27:02of impact to round out the fifth game here.
- 27:04So the game we did choose was the Panthers Texans.
- 27:07We had the Panthers getting their first win of the year going down to Houston and beating
- 27:11the Texans 15 to 13.
- 27:13Biggest reason we took it we had the two highly touted quarterbacks coming into the draft
- 27:17this year CJ Stroud Bryce Young going you know the first and I think it was third overall
- 27:21pick but it doesn't matter because the Texans had second or third.
- 27:24He would have been a second or third overall you know.
- 27:27Doesn't matter.
- 27:28Yeah.
- 27:29But that was the the headlines going in.
- 27:32So let's talk about that then.
- 27:33Like who do you think has performed the best this season to this point.
- 27:38Who would you have on your Packers like if they would have had first pick overall last
- 27:43year knowing what you know at this point in the season who would you rather have on your
- 27:47squad.
- 27:48There's nobody that would not say CJ Stroud at this point.
- 27:51This is the only game this year that Bryce Young has looked actually decent.
- 27:55And I mean I say decent he was 22 at 31 for 235 in a touchdown.
- 27:59Doesn't blow your socks off with his numbers.
- 28:01But CJ Stroud looked damn good this year.
- 28:03Not in this game didn't look great.
- 28:05You know 16 to 24 140 didn't throw any touchdowns.
- 28:10But it's CJ Stroud looks very very good this year.
- 28:13No and I agree 100 percent with you.
- 28:14He looks more complete more NFL ready.
- 28:18Why do you think what do you think the deal is with Bryce.
- 28:21Do you think he's not quite.
- 28:25I don't know what I'm trying to say I guess.
- 28:27Do you think he's not quite graduated to the NFL level of play like the speed of the game
- 28:31or how fast he needs to make his decision.
- 28:35I don't know like he still looks like the same old Bryce Young to me because I watch
- 28:39a lot of college football and like he was a beast at Alabama and all that jazz.
- 28:44But I don't understand what's going on is his height starting to play a factor.
- 28:51But you see guys like Kyla Murray you know he can still ball out now he's got his issues
- 28:55the past year or two.
- 28:57But like the height thing I think has taken way out of proportion nowadays especially
- 29:00because you look at one of the best passers the best quarterbacks of our generation Drew
- 29:04Brees and he's the same height.
- 29:05Right.
- 29:06Right.
- 29:07Yeah you have Kyla with his his bill a lot different ability than Bryce.
- 29:10But to answer your question I mean it's coming into the draft I thought that Stroud was going
- 29:15to be the best NFL quarterback Anthony Richardson had the most upside.
- 29:20Bryce Young is the best.
- 29:23Put him in.
- 29:24He's going to play.
- 29:25He's never going to be a great quarterback.
- 29:27He's never going to be a bad quarterback.
- 29:28He's going to be a very median quarterback.
- 29:30You know he's going to have an Alex Smith Ryan Tannehill type of career where CJ Stroud
- 29:36I could see actually excelling to be a top five top seven quarterback in the league with
- 29:40his just with his style of play.
- 29:41He has the NFL body.
- 29:43He has the arm strength the arm speed.
- 29:44Well it's the personality of CJ Stroud too and I'm not hating on the personality of
- 29:48Bryce Young.
- 29:49I think he's got a great personality too.
- 29:50But CJ Stroud is definitely a leader.
- 29:52I mean you can you can tell by all these interviews and blah blah blah that you know his teammates
- 29:58are kind of taking them in you know there in Houston and they're really liking what
- 30:02he's doing.
- 30:03They're jiving with it and you're starting to see it on the field.
- 30:06Yeah most definitely.
- 30:07Most definitely.
- 30:08And I mean in terms of talent between the two I would say their talent is pretty similar
- 30:11to be honest with you.
- 30:12The Panthers haven't had Miles Sanders in quite a long time but the the Houston's don't have
- 30:18any resemblance of a run game.
- 30:20I'm not necessarily excited to replace Kenneth Gaines.
- 30:23Sorry Kenneth Walker.
- 30:26Why can't I think of that?
- 30:27I mean they have K9 with Damian Pierce for fantasy reasons but I mean they don't have
- 30:32a top tier receiver detections in order the Panthers.
- 30:35No Adam Thielen looks rejuvenated in his late years in his career.
- 30:38Hey shout out Adam Thielen.
- 30:40He's proven the Vikings wrong.
- 30:42Now don't get me wrong Vikings had to make their move because of just straight money
- 30:45wise and what he was about to make for him.
- 30:47But he's proven people he can still run routes in this league straight up.
- 30:50That's what I was saying man.
- 30:52Yeah.
- 30:53He's proven he's still but he's not a you know he's not a.
- 30:55No.
- 30:56Top 10 receiver in the league.
- 30:57Not what he was at his prime I would say in Minnesota but he's not.
- 31:01He's proven to people he can still show up in the league and I think it's great for Bryce
- 31:05to have a guy like that.
- 31:07You know he's kind of his safety blanket already you know in a way like oh where's somebody
- 31:11oh there's Adam I'll just huck it over there.
- 31:13But so it's good it's good to see him I guess thriving I mean in a way.
- 31:18Yeah same.
- 31:19I thought it would be worse off for him.
- 31:21I really did.
- 31:22Rookie quarterback.
- 31:24Not a good team.
- 31:25I figured it would be the end of his career at maybe at the end of this season like you
- 31:30know what maybe I'm just done and then not based on his ability just based on like who's
- 31:35going to want.
- 31:36Yeah I don't know.
- 31:37I don't know.
- 31:38I thought I was going to go a lot worse than it did but it's good to see him doing well.
- 31:41I'm 100 percent with you.
- 31:42I did not think he was going to go here and rejuvenate his career and he's looked great.
- 31:47I've always been a big feeling guy even as a Packers fan and he was kind of just decimated
- 31:51my team and a lot of times.
- 31:53But I've always been a big feeling guy.
- 31:54Like he's just a stand up guy.
- 31:57He's a hard worker.
- 31:59You know he's a white receiver.
- 32:01You don't see that a lot.
- 32:03You just had to throw that in there.
- 32:04Got to throw that in there but it's nice to see like just you know one of those.
- 32:08He's a homegrown kid here from the Minnesota area.
- 32:11Mankato.
- 32:12Yeah so he still does his charity here in Minnesota and all that.
- 32:15So yeah no it's just good to see.
- 32:18It really is.
- 32:19It really is.
- 32:20Well that recaps last week man in terms of the slate.
- 32:22Now we're going to pitch it over to Tent Talk.
- 32:25Alright well that's enough about the week 8 slate.
- 32:29Let's start talking about that Tent Talk sir.
- 32:31We had some quarterback injuries.
- 32:33Four total quarterbacks went down.
- 32:35Four starters went down.
- 32:36Left the game.
- 32:37The first one good old Kirk O'Chains.
- 32:41Torn Achilles brother.
- 32:44Yeah and I mean we won't touch on it too much more because we already touched on it.
- 32:48Just sucks.
- 32:49Just sucks.
- 32:51But he did have successful surgery this morning in Eagan Minnesota.
- 32:55So he's good to go on the mend and I do expect him on the sideline.
- 32:59Funny thing real quick.
- 33:01Actually I saw somebody wondering.
- 33:02Gosh I can't remember if this was during the game or what.
- 33:05Or if this was like somebody here locally but somebody said they're wondering if Kirk's
- 33:11going to wear a helmet on the sideline so he can hear the play calls like he did in
- 33:15preseason.
- 33:16He even wore his jersey dude.
- 33:19And he was wearing the helmet.
- 33:20Dude it's the most Kirk thing ever and it's awesome and I love it because he loves the
- 33:24game.
- 33:25He loves the game just like we do.
- 33:26That's why we're doing this.
- 33:28But I'm interested to see if Kirk's in a helmet to hear play calls.
- 33:33Yo if Kirk shows up to a game in a fucking helmet on the sideline just so we can hear
- 33:38the play calls I'm going to just lose it.
- 33:40He should go to the Hall of Fame for that bro.
- 33:42The corniest dude to ever play football.
- 33:45It's awesome.
- 33:46It's awesome.
- 33:47That is hilarious.
- 33:48Alright so next we had Matt Stafford down in LA.
- 33:54Went out with a thumb injury.
- 33:55There's questions on when he did it.
- 33:57Some are saying it was on the two point conversion that he actually caught a pass on.
- 34:01He also came on came on somebody's helmet after a throw but he's currently day to day.
- 34:07Yeah the main issue is the UCL in the thumb there.
- 34:12He did not practice today.
- 34:14Today being we are recording this on Wednesday.
- 34:17What day is it Kev?
- 34:19The first of November.
- 34:20First day of November we're recording this so he did not practice this morning.
- 34:26He is slated to play the Packers this weekend.
- 34:30I don't know.
- 34:31We'll see.
- 34:32Day to day.
- 34:33That means guess what?
- 34:34He's day to day.
- 34:35I guess we'll see.
- 34:36Yeah that's going to be interesting.
- 34:37The Rams aren't really worth anything doing anything this week.
- 34:40And Stenson Bennett is not on the team right now.
- 34:43He's away.
- 34:45So that's going to be interesting.
- 34:46Why is Stenson Bennett away?
- 34:48I don't remember exactly.
- 34:50Personal thing?
- 34:51Yeah I think it was something.
- 34:52I don't remember exactly if it's a non football injury or just personal or something like
- 34:56that but let's move on from there.
- 34:59Now we have Kenny Pickett from the Steelers went down with a rib injury went out.
- 35:03Mitch Hrabisky came in.
- 35:05Steelers ended up getting the dub in that game still.
- 35:08As of today actually Kenny Pickett came out and said he's playing.
- 35:11He's good to go for Thursday.
- 35:13He said that himself?
- 35:14He said it himself.
- 35:15Mike Tomlin said anything?
- 35:17Literally anyone else said anything about that?
- 35:18Mike Tomlin ain't going to say a damn thing until he's forced to say something.
- 35:21That's how Tomlin works.
- 35:22But yeah Pickett I don't know.
- 35:25It looked pretty bad.
- 35:26He was in a lot of pain.
- 35:28So we'll see what happens.
- 35:29I don't really think that game offense or the outcome of the game changes much between
- 35:33Hrabisky or Pickett.
- 35:35Matt Canada is the issue not the quarterback that's at the helm.
- 35:38Who are they playing again this week?
- 35:40I can't remember if that's on my head but take this with a grain of salt.
- 35:48This is from Steeler Nation on what is it called X?
- 35:54I'm going to keep bringing it up.
- 35:55I'm going to call it Twitter.
- 35:56I don't care.
- 35:58But Steeler Nation says that Kenny Pickett has no injury designation and will in all
- 36:04caps start on Thursday Night Football.
- 36:07And you said against the Titans.
- 36:09So I'm going to go ahead and agree with you there.
- 36:11I don't think it would make a huge difference.
- 36:13I do think Pickett's a little better quarterback than Hrabisky.
- 36:16However I do think maybe Hrabisky gets a shot at some point to start one more time in his
- 36:21career.
- 36:22I don't know when or where.
- 36:23I don't know.
- 36:24Keep an eye on that I guess.
- 36:26Yeah it's worth keeping an eye on.
- 36:29I really don't think it's going to matter.
- 36:31Matt Canada needs to get fired.
- 36:33That's the other team has so much talent on offense and they're just so fucking beautiful.
- 36:39Yeah no it's atrocious.
- 36:40I don't understand what's going on.
- 36:43Like you alluded to already in another episode already.
- 36:47Like Matt Canada's got to go.
- 36:49And what was it?
- 36:50Boswell?
- 36:51The kicker Boswell after one of the games?
- 36:53They won and Matt Canada came up and congratulated Tomlin as they're walking in the tunnel.
- 36:59And Boswell said it's not because of you.
- 37:01But then he came out later and said that that's not what that was about.
- 37:05But that's got to be a PR move.
- 37:06That's exactly what that was about.
- 37:08Because he came up and Tomlin and him were congratulating whatever in the tunnel as they're
- 37:11walking into the locker room.
- 37:12And I swear it was Boswell.
- 37:14He's still the kicker there right?
- 37:15I swear it was him.
- 37:16But it's not because of you.
- 37:18Oh man I was geeking at that video bro.
- 37:21Yo that's hilarious.
- 37:24Because that's got to be what he's talking about.
- 37:25It has to be.
- 37:26What else are you talking about?
- 37:27It has to be.
- 37:28You can't come out and say later oh that's it's unrelated to that or whatever he said.
- 37:32That's whatever bro.
- 37:33Yeah that's wild.
- 37:34But that wraps up the quarterback injuries.
- 37:37That's actually not true.
- 37:39We have one more to talk about.
- 37:40That's Mr. Tyrod Taylor.
- 37:42Quarterbacks are dropping like flies in New York apparently.
- 37:45We had Danny Jones.
- 37:47Tyrod Taylor.
- 37:49Aaron Rodgers.
- 37:51What's going on in New York bro?
- 37:52It's a weird bro.
- 37:54It's just a curse bro.
- 37:56It's a curse of the stadium.
- 37:58Curse of the field.
- 38:00If you're a quarterback don't go play in New York I guess.
- 38:03I don't know.
- 38:04If you want to you can probably try to take Josh Allen's job.
- 38:06It's going to be tough.
- 38:08But technically it's New York State.
- 38:10But as close as you're going to get.
- 38:13I think you're a lot better off risking your odds and injuries in New York City than trying
- 38:17to take his job up in Buffalo.
- 38:19Tyrod Taylor out this week.
- 38:23I don't even know who they're going to start.
- 38:26Probably Tommy DeVito huh?
- 38:27Tommy DeVito is set to start.
- 38:29He's set to start?
- 38:30Danny's little nephew.
- 38:31Danny's little nephew.
- 38:34Look at us cracking up.
- 38:36Do you think Carson Wentz goes to the Giants at all?
- 38:40I don't know man.
- 38:41Do you think they take him rich?
- 38:42That's the last thing I want.
- 38:43I know bro.
- 38:44That's why I just threw it out there real quick to throw you off base because I know
- 38:48we didn't talk about it at all.
- 38:49The man made a fucking glass because he has no regard for the human body.
- 38:55That guy.
- 38:56Put him in New York where the quarterbacks are just getting injured.
- 38:59That would be so funny.
- 39:00Oh man.
- 39:01Alright brother well that's enough of the quarterback injuries from last week.
- 39:04We had the trade deadline come and go.
- 39:06We had some big trades.
- 39:07We're going to touch on a couple here.
- 39:09So before the deadline about a week ago we did have Kevin Byard go to the Eagles for
- 39:14Terrell Edmonds a fifth and a sixth rounder.
- 39:18Yeah I don't really have any comment on that.
- 39:24Just swapping fellows.
- 39:25Yeah I mean Kevin Byard's a player.
- 39:26He's a baller.
- 39:27You're getting a perennial pro bowler in that secondary when we've talked about the Eagles
- 39:34defense the secondary is their biggest issue.
- 39:36Outside of Darius Slay they don't have anybody back there so I think once he gets into that
- 39:41system he's going to bring a lot on the field but also the presence back there the experience
- 39:45back there what he's going to bring to the locker room.
- 39:47I think that's going to play dividends in the late season going into the playoffs and
- 39:50I think that's going to be a huge move.
- 39:51Well and like we mentioned earlier they just got to keep playing together as a group.
- 39:55Now you got Byard in there.
- 39:57See what happens these next few weeks but you got to get on a roll defensively because
- 40:02what you showed against Washington ain't it.
- 40:04That's not going to win you a Super Bowl.
- 40:06That sure as shit is not.
- 40:08So then we had the trade deadline kind of get started with the first wave of moves here
- 40:12with Leonard Williams going to the Seahawks for a second and fifth rounder.
- 40:17That's a big move man.
- 40:18Leonard Williams is a player.
- 40:20Yeah no doubt Leonard Williams is a player.
- 40:22Like in your terms he's a dog.
- 40:25Why is he worth more to the Seahawks or why did they give up more draft capital to obtain
- 40:31him than say like what we'll touch on in a little bit as the Bears did for Montez or
- 40:36the Niners did for Chase Young.
- 40:38Like what is so appealing.
- 40:40What is he really bringing the Seahawks.
- 40:42I'd say experience and it's a little bit different position.
- 40:45He's an inline 3-4 DN.
- 40:47He's not an edge rusher per se.
- 40:49So he's going to fill a different role for the Seahawks as what the edge rushers are
- 40:52that you just mentioned there with Young and Montez-Swed.
- 40:54Is he going to be an edge rusher for the Seahawks?
- 40:56Oh sorry I thought you were saying that he was about to be.
- 40:59No no.
- 41:00It's a different position I would say.
- 41:03Not that an edge rusher is less valuable per se but I would say Leonard Williams is a lot
- 41:06more proven commodity than a Montez-Swed or Chase Young.
- 41:10They're both younger.
- 41:11They have more upside or potential per se with longer careers ahead of them.
- 41:15But Leonard Williams is he's always been one of the more underrated interior D linemen
- 41:19in the league in my opinion.
- 41:20So I think the Seahawks are getting a big win here.
- 41:24So then that leads us right into Washington getting rid of their two young studs on their
- 41:28D line.
- 41:29Montez-Swed to the Bears for a second rounder.
- 41:32Chase Young to the Niners for a conditional second rounder.
- 41:36So the winner in this to me is the Commanders because I believe they were both on the last
- 41:43year of their deals if they weren't.
- 41:46So you got to get some form right.
- 41:48You know you're not really battling as much as you thought you were.
- 41:51You almost pulled it off against the Eagles but you're not really in the mix as much as
- 41:55you were hoping you would be.
- 41:57Boom.
- 41:58Get what you can form second rounders.
- 41:59I think that's fair.
- 42:03But what the hell are the Bears doing dude?
- 42:05Like I don't think that's the move they needed to make.
- 42:07Yeah they needed help.
- 42:08They need help.
- 42:10No doubt.
- 42:11And you got to start at some point.
- 42:12But I feel like they just need so much that like Montez-Swed I mean they must have plans
- 42:17for the future because they didn't Montez end up signing a four year deal.
- 42:22I thought he did after he got traded.
- 42:24There was talk some extension but I think this is the perfect move the Bears can make
- 42:27at the deadline to be completely honest with you.
- 42:28I would wholeheartedly disagree.
- 42:30I think Montez-Swed is a young stud.
- 42:32He's the only player in the league that's had more than five sacks.
- 42:35Well not the only players that's had five sacks but from the year he was drafted to
- 42:39where he's at now which is the third or fourth year is the only player to have five sacks
- 42:42every year.
- 42:43He's consistent as an edge rusher.
- 42:45He's consistent in the run game.
- 42:46The Bears have absolutely nothing on their D line.
- 42:49They have to have a young foundational stud.
- 42:51They have the cap space to sign him.
- 42:54So I think are you going to find a person that's more of a fix right now to help anchor
- 42:59this defense in a second round or next year's draft?
- 43:03No.
- 43:04Not right now.
- 43:05So I think it was a great move by the Bears.
- 43:07If they can re-sign him.
- 43:08They're going to re-sign him.
- 43:09I mean you don't make that move before you're not going to throw a whole lot of money at
- 43:12him.
- 43:13Right.
- 43:14And I mean Montez-Swed's not really in a position right now where he's going to like go chase
- 43:16and go battle in free agency.
- 43:18Go find a bag.
- 43:19Has a sure thing.
- 43:20Sure.
- 43:21You know the Bears are going to give him a bag.
- 43:22Right.
- 43:23Yeah.
- 43:24And that had to have already been talked about you would think.
- 43:26Well I mean it doesn't matter because it's not like he has any sway in trade because
- 43:30he's got a rookie contract.
- 43:31No.
- 43:32No.
- 43:33But like if you're trading for a guy you would hope you want to get him on your good graces
- 43:36a little bit.
- 43:37Well that's part of that as well.
- 43:39He's not going to you know you're not going to give up a second rounder for a one year
- 43:41rental when you have no chance of actually contending.
- 43:44Right.
- 43:45So there's got to be something in the works.
- 43:47Yeah.
- 43:48Most definitely.
- 43:49But right.
- 43:50No I mean on your point like giving up a second rounder for a player who you know what you're
- 43:52getting and obviously in the draft you never know what you're getting.
- 43:56You could have a first round bus.
- 43:57You know you're never going to know.
- 43:59So I get what you're saying.
- 44:02I still think it's wild to do it.
- 44:05Now if they sign him to like if they do sign him to like a four year deal or something.
- 44:10All right.
- 44:11Then it's a good move because now you have somebody to build around on defense.
- 44:14But I guess we'll see.
- 44:16Yeah exactly.
- 44:17Exactly.
- 44:18And then Chase Young to the Niners.
- 44:19The Niners defense just needed more talent I guess right.
- 44:22Nasty.
- 44:23This is more interesting to me because this is to me this is the Niners just putting it
- 44:26all in push to win the Super Bowl this year because they're not going to have the draft
- 44:30sorry the cap space to resign him to a long deal.
- 44:33They have so much money invested in that offense or in that defense already.
- 44:37And then you got Debo CMC and Kittle on huge deals going to have to pay Purdy in a couple
- 44:42years.
- 44:43Maybe.
- 44:44Well OK maybe right.
- 44:45But nonetheless I mean with everything else that they have already accounted for Fred
- 44:51Warner Eric Armstead Nick Bosa Nick Bosa.
- 44:56Javon Hargrave.
- 44:57Signed already right.
- 44:58Nick Bosa signed Javon Hargrave.
- 45:00Then you got Trent Williams Debo Kittle CMC.
- 45:04You're not going to afford to keep him.
- 45:05Or do you get rid of somebody else.
- 45:07Why.
- 45:08Why would you get rid of any of those proven commodities that are foundational pieces on
- 45:11your team for somebody that had a good rookie year and hasn't proven anything since.
- 45:15No and I hear you.
- 45:16I hear you.
- 45:17If Chase has a big rest of the year though take that take this with a grain of salt.
- 45:23It's gonna be wild.
- 45:24But if Chase has a good rest of the year do you move Debo to sign Chase Young.
- 45:28No absolutely not.
- 45:29No.
- 45:30No.
- 45:31Debo is way too valuable to that offense.
- 45:32Look how that offense has looked the last two weeks without him.
- 45:35No.
- 45:36Yeah.
- 45:37Yeah.
- 45:38He's that Swiss Army knife.
- 45:39He's Kyle Shanahan's just utility tool that he can just put anywhere he wants to.
- 45:43Like Debo is way more important.
- 45:45I mean you look at that front seven how much better do you really need to get.
- 45:48How much value does Chase Young really need to bring.
- 45:49You don't.
- 45:50You don't.
- 45:51That's why I was surprised they brought him in.
- 45:52But like you said you know it's obviously a rental player to go all in and go for it
- 45:55and see what happens.
- 45:56This reminds me of the Rams.
- 45:58The year they won the Super Bowl they go get the Vaughn Miller.
- 46:00They go get the Jalen Ramsey a couple years before.
- 46:02They signed the O'Dell Backham.
- 46:04You know now granted it's Chase Young it's not a collection of people.
- 46:07They picked up Matthew Stavrid who played well that year but you're not really.
- 46:11You didn't gain a whole lot from Jared Goff but I'd say you gained a little bit.
- 46:14Yeah.
- 46:15At that moment in time and he won you a Super Bowl so it worked out.
- 46:18But yeah I mean I guess we'll see because Purdy did not look good.
- 46:22No he sure did not look good.
- 46:24All right so that leads us to Joshua Dobbs getting traded to year Vikings.
- 46:30They gave up a seventh rounder and then got a sixth rounder out of it.
- 46:34So they got Joshua Dobbs and a seventh rounder for a sixth rounder.
- 46:38How do you feel about this man?
- 46:40It's an interesting move because I was actually watching the trade deadline for once.
- 46:46Like had NFL Network on all that jazz kind of just paying attention.
- 46:53Just like any American I was on the phone with a debt collector and we started talking
- 46:57about football instead because right at that moment Josh Dobbs got traded to the Vikings
- 47:01and I was like what the hell.
- 47:04That's a pretty wild move.
- 47:07I don't know.
- 47:08I don't know.
- 47:09I don't think they traded for him to start but I think Jaren Hall gets a start this weekend
- 47:14against Atlanta and judging by that game then Dobbs could either start the next week.
- 47:21We would see but it's a wild move.
- 47:24I honestly expected them as much as I didn't want them to do this.
- 47:28I expected them to go after Tannahill which again I did not want.
- 47:33I low-key as wild as this is and everybody's like he's such a dumb quarterback like he
- 47:38makes dumb decisions.
- 47:39He does but he's got a cannon.
- 47:40I really wanted the Vikings to go after James Winston low-key.
- 47:44That's who I thought they were going to go after and I thought that would actually be
- 47:46a really good fit for the plug-in play.
- 47:49Get what you need to get done the rest of the year.
- 47:51Maybe have a chance in the playoffs.
- 47:53And I think KOC likes those big-arm quarterbacks.
- 47:56Guys that can stretch the field and when you get JJ back and now Addison you still got
- 48:02KJ that can come underneath and TJ.
- 48:04I mean it's I don't know.
- 48:06I'm curious to see what happens.
- 48:08It is not the move I thought they were going to make but they didn't give up a whole lot
- 48:11for it.
- 48:12I guess we'll see what happens.
- 48:13Yeah.
- 48:14I think it's something that's going to get you along but I don't understand.
- 48:19They didn't give up anything for it either.
- 48:20That's what I mean.
- 48:21It doesn't hurt you in any really way but it's not like you're going to be a suitable
- 48:26contender with Joshua Dodds and the team you had.
- 48:28I wouldn't think so.
- 48:29I mean but if I'm also in that fence then it's like why chase a 17th to 20th pick when
- 48:34you can just settle for an eighth to 12th and get a better draft pick with the quarterback
- 48:38that you have on the roster.
- 48:40Right right.
- 48:41So okay so as a Packer fan what would you do in the Viking situation?
- 48:43Would you tank right now?
- 48:44As a Packer fan currently in our current situation I hope we do not win any other game this year
- 48:49and get the first or second pick so we can get Marvin Harris.
- 48:51No no no no no no sure sure.
- 48:53I feel you and that's a great pick.
- 48:54I'm talking about like if you were in the Vikings shoes at four and four what would you
- 48:59do?
- 49:00You're two games behind Detroit.
- 49:01You have a chance but.
- 49:02Don't give up any draft capital although like I said you're not giving up really anything.
- 49:07You're trading a seventh for a sixth rounder in that regard or a sixth rounder for a seventh
- 49:10round in that regard but it's like I think Joshua Dodds gives you a better chance to
- 49:14win than the quarterbacks on your team but winning only does so much when you're not
- 49:20going to win a Super Bowl.
- 49:21The Vikings do not have a Super Bowl roster with Kirk Cousins on their team.
- 49:24They don't have a Super Bowl roster.
- 49:26They would win the NFC North.
- 49:27I think they're a better team than the Lions but they're not going to beat an Eagles or
- 49:32Niners in the championship game.
- 49:34Okay in October they beat them in October.
- 49:37Yeah no I feel you.
- 49:39And then they're not going to touch anybody in the AFC in terms of the Chiefs, the Bills,
- 49:43the Bengals, the Dolphins.
- 49:44They would get dog walked.
- 49:46So it's like they're and I'm on the fence of making the playoffs doesn't do shit to
- 49:50me.
- 49:51Now granted I am very very lucky with the team that I have rooted for my whole life
- 49:56where it makes making the playoffs is more or less an expectation.
- 50:01So where you don't make the playoffs like to me like it's Super Bowl or bust every year.
- 50:06So if we're going to make the playoffs and get a 20 to 25th pick I'd rather lose 12 games
- 50:10and get a third to sixth pick.
- 50:13Get better capital, get more talent and then give yourself that short little rebuild instead
- 50:18of getting that consistently 15th to 22nd pick.
- 50:20You're not going to get great talent and you're going to consistently just kind of be in that
- 50:25re tooling phase instead of just rebuilding where you can do a quick rebuild.
- 50:30Yeah no for sure.
- 50:31I hear you there.
- 50:32No I was just curious on your take.
- 50:35So I'm glad we're different enough on that.
- 50:38So I'll just mention real quick one more Viking player that did get traded at the deadline.
- 50:44Ezra Cleveland left guard for the Vikings.
- 50:47He was a starter for the past couple of years since he came in.
- 50:51He's kind of meh.
- 50:52So the Vikings trading him to the Jags for six rounders isn't really a big L for the
- 51:00Vikes and they got that six rounder back that they gave away for Josh Jobs.
- 51:03So I mean it kind of works out in their favor and they're starting Dalton Reisner now at
- 51:08left guard who played an outstanding game on Sunday.
- 51:11So didn't he play center on Sunday?
- 51:14He might have played a little center and they might have played Bradbury.
- 51:16I feel like they keep switching them around.
- 51:19Reisner's played all over.
- 51:20He's such a good utility interior lineman.
- 51:22So that's why when they brought him in I was kind of pumped for that which we needed help
- 51:26specifically on interior lineman.
- 51:28So it was good to see that happen.
- 51:31But your boys...
- 51:32Yeah you got two studs on the outside with O'Neill and Darasaw.
- 51:34They might be.
- 51:35You could argue that's the best tackle tandem in the league.
- 51:37They might be.
- 51:38They might be.
- 51:39And that's not even a Homer thing for me to say.
- 51:41I'm a Packers fan.
- 51:42They might be the best tackle tandem in the league.
- 51:46But your boys also got rid of somebody at the deadline.
- 51:50Yeah you know the typical Packers fashion.
- 51:52Just had to get rid of our most consistent defensive player we've had the last two years.
- 51:56She was an all-pro player last year.
- 51:58Jair Alexander got torn up by Jordan Addison.
- 52:01So why not get rid of our best cover corner we've had this year.
- 52:03Rasul Douglas to the Bills.
- 52:05Now we got a third rounder.
- 52:06I'm very happy with the third rounder for a cornerback that's 30 years old.
- 52:11We just signed Rasul last year to a three year deal.
- 52:13So we had this year and next year on the remaining.
- 52:17So he was due seven mil next year.
- 52:19I'm pulling that on my ass.
- 52:21That sounds right.
- 52:22It was something hefty-ish.
- 52:23Yeah you know so it's like I said with the Packers.
- 52:28I'm not opposed to being a seller per se at the deadline this year.
- 52:31Kind of wish we would have got rid of another piece like a Preston Smith with the cap hit.
- 52:35Bakhtiar is impossible to move right now.
- 52:40We won't even go back into the Bakhtiar contract.
- 52:43Holy shit.
- 52:44But no it sucks to see him go because he's a fun player to have on your team and watch.
- 52:50But I like getting a third rounder out of it.
- 52:52Get some draft capital.
- 52:53I just wish we had a GM that could draft good players.
- 52:59That would help.
- 53:00Yeah that would help build an NFL team typically.
- 53:03Yeah that would help.
- 53:06But yeah nonetheless so that wraps up the trades.
- 53:09So now we're going to get into our newest segment.
- 53:11I'm going to turn it over to you Smeltsy.
- 53:13It's time for your Bonehead Move of the Week.
- 53:16Genius!
- 53:17Yeah as Tyler said welcome to Bonehead Move of the Week.
- 53:24Basically I'm just kind of picking something that stuck out to me that was like pfft.
- 53:28Just makes you go whoa dude what a Bonehead move.
- 53:31So that's where we're at.
- 53:32Bonehead Move of the Week this week.
- 53:34Gotta be Kenneth Gainwell man.
- 53:36So fella fumbles the ball right before half.
- 53:41Goes into half.
- 53:42Decides to take out his phone which who knows maybe many players do.
- 53:47Maybe they start playing music get jacked back up.
- 53:50I don't know.
- 53:51I don't know if there's any rules on that.
- 53:53Basically he goes to social media.
- 53:54A fan had DM'd him and said basically just said quote hold on to the football.
- 54:01That's it.
- 54:02He didn't as far as we know there's no expletives.
- 54:04He wasn't coming at the guy.
- 54:05He just said hold on to the football.
- 54:08And Kenneth decides to reply little boy don't text me.
- 54:12I think that's freaking hilarious actually.
- 54:15But as far as like a Bonehead move dude.
- 54:19You know it's not a good look.
- 54:21It's not a good look especially at halftime.
- 54:23You're still gotta go out there and play another half.
- 54:26It's not a good look.
- 54:27That is freaking hilarious.
- 54:28So this was new to me when you brought it up.
- 54:30I had no idea.
- 54:32And that just makes me just giggle.
- 54:34Like you're gonna respond to somebody at halftime of a game.
- 54:38And you're gonna respond for one that foolishness.
- 54:41You're gonna let some random fan get to your skin.
- 54:44Yeah.
- 54:45And like.
- 54:46Course these guys probably get hundreds of messages throughout the season dude.
- 54:49I'm sure he had.
- 54:50Thousands you know.
- 54:51Like it's gotta get old.
- 54:52And at some point you're gonna get frustrated.
- 54:54You just gave up a fumble.
- 54:56You feel like you have to clap back.
- 54:58But like that's not the move bro.
- 54:59No that's not the move.
- 55:01That's not the move.
- 55:02Yeah and just to wrap up the Bonehead move of the week.
- 55:07You know I'm no NFL player but I'd imagine at halftime you gotta stay locked in.
- 55:12So if I can make any suggestion.
- 55:15Stay locked in man.
- 55:16You still got a job to do and that job's playing football unfortunately.
- 55:20So whatever you do outside the game.
- 55:22Whatever obviously.
- 55:23But like game time.
- 55:24Be locked in.
- 55:25Be locked in.
- 55:27Yeah I couldn't agree more man.
- 55:28You gotta lock in.
- 55:29You gotta play football.
- 55:30And you gotta get paid.
- 55:31You gotta play for what you get paid to do.
- 55:34But that was a great first segment of Bonehead move of the week.
- 55:37I'm glad we did it.
- 55:38I hope it lives up to the hype the rest of the time.
- 55:42Gonna be fun going forward with that one man.
- 55:47But let's get into week 9 brother.
- 55:49We have one hell of a slate ahead of us.
- 55:51It was hard to narrow it down to 5 games.
- 55:53Especially with 2 of those games being our shitty teams we do have to watch and root
- 55:57for.
- 55:58But let's get it started with my crappy team.
- 56:01The Packers.
- 56:02We have the Rams coming to town.
- 56:04Coming into Lambeau.
- 56:05The Packers for some reason are 3 point favorites.
- 56:07Who do you like in this one?
- 56:09Honestly I'm gonna go with your Packers.
- 56:11I think if they can get Aaron Jones going at home, it's a wrap.
- 56:17Cause the Rams are not good.
- 56:20So to say the least without going into too much detail.
- 56:24I take the Packers at home.
- 56:26Yeah I think they cover.
- 56:28Yeah I couldn't agree more man.
- 56:29I think the Packers are gonna win this one.
- 56:31The Rams just aren't a good football team.
- 56:33I think we might actually get Aaron Jones involved.
- 56:35He was on a snap count the last 2 weeks so hopefully they take that off.
- 56:39So we'll see what happens but I think my Packers are gonna win this and they're gonna cover.
- 56:43Let's go on to your Vikings.
- 56:44They're going down to Atlanta taking on Artie Smiths Falcons.
- 56:48Falcons are a 4.5 point favorite.
- 56:51And I think that is because Kirk is down and I'm gonna agree with it.
- 56:57I'm gonna pick the Falcons at home over my Vikings.
- 57:00That hurts my soul.
- 57:01I want the Vikings to win.
- 57:02I will be cheering the Vikings to a hopeful win on Sunday.
- 57:05But I'm picking the Falcons.
- 57:07I think Taylor Heinecke is actually going to light it up.
- 57:11I hope I am wrong.
- 57:12I agree man.
- 57:13I think the Falcons are gonna cover that 4.5.
- 57:16They do have a pretty good offense.
- 57:17Bijon Robinson is real fun to watch.
- 57:19That defense has some studs on it.
- 57:21I don't think they're talked about as good as they really are.
- 57:24I mean saying that.
- 57:25They're not.
- 57:26Yeah.
- 57:27Well yeah saying that the Titans also tore them to shreds last week with Will Levesse.
- 57:30But we'll see.
- 57:31We'll see.
- 57:32But so we agree the Falcons are gonna cover that 4.5.
- 57:35Now we gotta get on to the big games man.
- 57:36We got three bangers of games here.
- 57:38It starts off in Germany Sunday morning.
- 57:41The Dolphins are going to play the Chiefs.
- 57:43The Chiefs are a 1.5 point favorite.
- 57:45It's almost a toss up.
- 57:46It's almost a pick them on this one.
- 57:48What are you thinking man?
- 57:49Dude this has gotta be banner of the boys game of the week.
- 57:52It's gotta be.
- 57:53Chiefs Dolphin.
- 57:54Dolphins at Chiefs.
- 57:55Like it's gotta be.
- 57:56So I think officially game of the week here.
- 57:59Dolphins at Chiefs.
- 58:00Chiefs by 1.5.
- 58:02I think Chiefs take the win there.
- 58:03I think it's gonna be a really good game though.
- 58:05I'm really excited to see it.
- 58:07Well that's right.
- 58:08I said at home.
- 58:09But really it's their home but in Germany.
- 58:11So it's gonna be a little different there.
- 58:13So maybe more of a neutral site then.
- 58:16But I still take Chiefs.
- 58:17It doesn't change my pick.
- 58:20You gotta find a way to stop Patrick Mahomes.
- 58:24I think the Dolphins are gonna win this game.
- 58:26Oh here we go.
- 58:27Let's go.
- 58:28I think the Dolphins are gonna win this game.
- 58:29I don't think they're gonna stop Patrick Mahomes.
- 58:31Especially with the performance he had last week.
- 58:33He's gonna bounce back and he's gonna score for let's say 302 to 4 touchdowns.
- 58:39Maybe one on the ground to get there.
- 58:40Nah I don't say that because I just traded for him in fantasy.
- 58:44Holy shit.
- 58:45I love that.
- 58:46But no in all seriousness I think Jalen Ramsey coming back on that defense.
- 58:50He made an interception last week but that defense just looks a little rejuvenated.
- 58:54They have someone back there that truly does care.
- 58:56That has the experience.
- 58:57He's an absolute dog of a human being.
- 59:00And their secondary is decent in general.
- 59:02Yeah I don't know if Xavier and Howard's back this week but if he's back that would obviously
- 59:05help as well.
- 59:07And that Dolphins offense man.
- 59:08It's hard to get stopped once they get going.
- 59:11And I just don't see anybody on the Chiefs that can just shut down both Hill and Waddle.
- 59:18Spagnola's gonna game plan to get one of them shut down.
- 59:20Hill probably won't have a great game.
- 59:22But they just have so much talent on offense.
- 59:24I just don't see him stopping them.
- 59:25I was just gonna say Xavier and Howard was limited today.
- 59:29So he might have practiced today.
- 59:30He's just limited.
- 59:32Limited's encouraging to be honest.
- 59:33It is encouraging.
- 59:34Yeah so if he's on, if he's back too I think it further reinforces my point here.
- 59:39But yeah I got the Dolphins winning this one.
- 59:42So let's move over to the NFC East.
- 59:43One of the oldest rivalries in the game.
- 59:46We have the Dallas Cowboys going up to the brotherly love.
- 59:49Taking on the Philadelphia Eagles.
- 59:51And the spread on this one is just crazy to me.
- 59:54But the Eagles are favored by three points here.
- 59:57Yeah I would have thought low key it would have been under three in my opinion.
- 1:00:02I think this one's kind of more of a toss up.
- 1:00:04And like I'm not a big Cowboys fan.
- 1:00:06Like I almost despise the Cowboys.
- 1:00:09I have a friend over in South Dakota that's a giant Cowboys fan.
- 1:00:12And he annoys me with it.
- 1:00:14With his Cowboys fandom.
- 1:00:15But uh.
- 1:00:16Oh dude.
- 1:00:19With how the Eagles played last week.
- 1:00:20I'm taking the Cowboys over the Eagles in Philly this week.
- 1:00:24I think them boys are going to step up.
- 1:00:28And if they do.
- 1:00:30I think you need to take Dallas seriously this year.
- 1:00:32If they win in Philly.
- 1:00:34They need to be taken seriously.
- 1:00:35I agree.
- 1:00:36I think the Cowboys.
- 1:00:37I don't know if they're going to necessarily win this game.
- 1:00:39I think this is a one or two point game.
- 1:00:43But I think the Cowboys are going to cover that three points.
- 1:00:46I need to see more out of the Eagles.
- 1:00:48They need to go and beat a good team.
- 1:00:50This is their biggest test of the year so far.
- 1:00:53So I think with the Cowboys offense is buzzing right now.
- 1:00:56They actually got Brandon Cooks involved last week.
- 1:00:59C.D. Lamb has been very good this year.
- 1:01:01And Tony Pollard has looked halfway decent.
- 1:01:03So I think that they're going to take advantage of that Philadelphia offense.
- 1:01:07Or sorry.
- 1:01:08That Philadelphia defense.
- 1:01:09And they're going to put up a lot of points.
- 1:01:11And I don't think the Cowboys defense is going to stop Philly from scoring 20-25 plus points.
- 1:01:18But I think the Cowboys defense is going to come up with a big time turnover that's going
- 1:01:22to lead to points that's going to be the deciding factor in the game.
- 1:01:25Fair enough.
- 1:01:26So then that wraps up here the week 9 slate with the Bills going down to Cincinnati and
- 1:01:31taking on the Bengals.
- 1:01:32The Bengals are a one and a half point favorite.
- 1:01:34Another one that's basically a pick-up.
- 1:01:36What do you have here Smeltsy?
- 1:01:39This is a must win game for both teams.
- 1:01:42Straight up.
- 1:01:43I think the Bengals are back.
- 1:01:45I think the Bengals will win at home against Josh Allen this week.
- 1:01:50However again, this is a must win game for both teams.
- 1:01:53With the Bills right behind the Dolphins, right on their heels, making a run.
- 1:01:58The Bengals are right in the nick of it in the AFC North.
- 1:02:03The Ravens lead right now.
- 1:02:04But everybody else, it's a toss up.
- 1:02:07Definitely still a chance for an AFC wild card if not the division depending on what
- 1:02:12the Ravens decide to do.
- 1:02:13So I think the Bengals are ready.
- 1:02:15I think they're back.
- 1:02:16I think Joey B is back to what he was doing.
- 1:02:19I take the Bengals at home and I think they do cover.
- 1:02:22I disagree.
- 1:02:23I think the Bills win this game.
- 1:02:25I would take them as a pick-up.
- 1:02:26Or not a pick-up, I'm sorry.
- 1:02:28I would take the money line on this one.
- 1:02:30I got the Bills.
- 1:02:31The offense hasn't looked great, but I think they're going to bounce back and they're going
- 1:02:35to put some points up on this Bengals defense.
- 1:02:37I don't think that the Bengals are going to put up a lot of points on the Bills.
- 1:02:43I mean the Bills defense is hurting right now.
- 1:02:46Hopefully they have some injuries on the front seven coming back.
- 1:02:49But I just think that the Bills need this game and this is a game that they're going
- 1:02:52to win.
- 1:02:53What a slate of games this week.
- 1:02:55Seriously.
- 1:02:56Crazy, man.
- 1:02:57There could have been two or three more games we could have included in here that we haven't
- 1:02:59leave out.
- 1:03:00Oh, definitely at least one other one.
- 1:03:01Yeah, Ravens Seahawks is going to be a good one too.
- 1:03:03That's going to be a good game.
- 1:03:04But you know, we got to get our vikes and pack some love.
- 1:03:08Yeah, we have to talk about them.
- 1:03:09Those are the games we're going to talk about the most.
- 1:03:11That's what we're most invested in.
- 1:03:13But I think we had a good episode here, sir.
- 1:03:15I thank you for joining me with our time here tonight.
- 1:03:18We're going to see how this works out here.
- 1:03:20We'll track this.
- 1:03:21We have two games that we disagreed on this week, so we should get some discrepancies
- 1:03:24in the scores.
- 1:03:26And as always, it was a pleasure to all of our listeners.
- 1:03:29Make sure to like, comment, subscribe.
- 1:03:31It's been an absolute pleasure.
- 1:03:32This has been another episode of Banner with the Boys.
- 1:03:34We'll see you next week.
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