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[HIGHLIGHT] Was It Fair to Blame Dick Rowe for Rejecting The Beatles? - From EP 374 · Booked On Rock with Eric Senich

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  Speaker 1: Here's a clip from a recent episode of Booked on Rock.
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  Speaker 1: Stuart Maconey, the author of With a Little Help from
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  Speaker 1: Their Friends, The Beatles and the People who made Them.
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  Speaker 1: Dick Rowe is the name in the book. Now that's
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  Speaker 1: a familiar name among the diehard Beatles fans. Now he's
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  Speaker 1: forever remembered as the man who turned down the Beatles.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think history has been a little unfair to him?
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  Speaker 2: I think it has because that's the famous Deca audition
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  Speaker 2: and a year but a year or two later, Dick
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  Speaker 2: Rowe appears on a talent show panel with George Harrison,
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  Speaker 2: who by now, of course is a very very famous
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  Speaker 2: and successful Beatle, and Dick Rowe says to George Harrison,
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  Speaker 2: I feel such an idiot that I let you go.
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  Speaker 2: And George said to him, don't beat yourself up about it, Dick,
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  Speaker 2: we probably weren't very good, he said, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: we were very good that day. I'm not sure I
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  Speaker 2: would have signed us. But again, fascinating story the Deca audition.
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  Speaker 2: They don't sign the Beatles. They signed a group called
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  Speaker 2: Brian Poole and the Tremolos, who had a few hits
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  Speaker 2: here and one of the reasons, apparently was that they thought, well,
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  Speaker 2: Brian Pool and the Tremeno Tremelos are from London. Well
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  Speaker 2: they're from the outskirts of London. The Beatles from Liverpool
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  Speaker 2: and back in nineteen sixty in Britain sixty one we'll
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  Speaker 2: be talking. I guess sixty two. He does a hell
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  Speaker 2: of a schlep to get to Liverpool, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. It was probably a three hour train journey
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  Speaker 2: or a three hour ride, and I think they just
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  Speaker 2: thought it'll be easy to work with this gang of
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  Speaker 2: people from down the road in Daggenham than it is
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  Speaker 2: for the Beatles. So as I say again, if the
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  Speaker 2: British road and rail network had been better in nineteen sixty,
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  Speaker 2: who knows, the whole history of the world might have
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  Speaker 2: been different. Again, but Dick Dick Row, I think we're
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  Speaker 2: probably a little one kind of him. He's supposed to
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  Speaker 2: I can never find an actual verifiable quote for this,
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  Speaker 2: but he's supposed to be the guy who says guitar
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  Speaker 2: groups are on the way out of mister Epstein, you know,
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  Speaker 2: which is so wrong. If anything, the Beatles are going
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  Speaker 2: to usher in a whole world of guitar groups but
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  Speaker 2: he says, guitar groups are on the way out, and
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  Speaker 2: you know. But what he doesn't make sense is the
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  Speaker 2: next group who auditioned for him, he does not make
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  Speaker 2: the same mistake again, and he signs the Rolling Stones.
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  Speaker 2: So he wasn't gonna let He wasn't gonna make the
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  Speaker 2: same mistake twice.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. The full episode is available wherever you
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  Speaker 1: get your podcast.