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Zay Jones on refining his skills, team mentality & more | O-Zone Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast presented by by Star Credit
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  Speaker 1: with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. All Right, welcome to
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  Speaker 1: this week's Ozone podcast. And uh, I'm excited about six weeks, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: because I've been looking forward to talking to him. It's
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  Speaker 1: sometimes tough to get to know a guy in the
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  Speaker 1: locker room. You can't really ask the questions and get
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  Speaker 1: really in depth answers. But I know I from listening
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  Speaker 1: to Za, he loves in depth answers. I'm talking to
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars wide receiver's A Jones and I, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: I talked to you a second ago, and you introduce
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  Speaker 1: yourself as Isaiah. Tell me how ZA got there? Obviously? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Sound that did somebody specific? I give you that name?
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  Speaker 1: How did that start? It was just a childhood nickname
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  Speaker 1: my family called ms z's a my mother, my father,
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  Speaker 1: And then as I got to college, more people called
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  Speaker 1: ms A and um, I guess I gained more notoriety as.
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  Speaker 1: And then when it came to my senior season at
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  Speaker 1: East Carolina, when they were doing the announcements UM as
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  Speaker 1: far as like player introductions, they had asked me what
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to be announced as, and I just said
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  Speaker 1: to say I thought it was kind of funny, or
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  Speaker 1: at least you know, the fan base knew me as that,
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  Speaker 1: but I didn't know what was going to carry on to,
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  Speaker 1: like ESPN changing it Tuesday and then the NFL Draft
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  Speaker 1: announcing me as a so that that wasn't my intent
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  Speaker 1: and kind of just happened. Two and three. This season
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  Speaker 1: right now had some ups and downs. I started off
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  Speaker 1: talking about the Jags a little bit. Um, you're a
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  Speaker 1: veteran and have been through seasons ups and ups and downs.
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  Speaker 1: You know it's up and down league. Um. Is that
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  Speaker 1: your message to teammates this week that hey, this thing
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  Speaker 1: takes a while. These seasons take a while they play out.
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  Speaker 1: You follow me on that, Yeah, I do. Um, it
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  Speaker 1: is a very long season. I think the the best
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  Speaker 1: thing that we can do is remain poise, remain confident,
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  Speaker 1: and trust what we're still doing. Um. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: don't you don't panic just because something may not go
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  Speaker 1: right one week. You know it's it's good to make
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  Speaker 1: adjustments and solid adjustments and kind of uh reload a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, recharge, um, bring things back center. But if
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  Speaker 1: you can stay balanced and kind of understand, okay, positive
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  Speaker 1: negatives which you can take from both aspects, place it together,
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  Speaker 1: focus on the task at hand. Um, you'll be fine.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen it. Um. By no means how I you know,
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  Speaker 1: going on the way the super Bowl like Doug so
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  Speaker 1: having him as a leader, understanding what it takes him,
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  Speaker 1: reaffirming that, hey, guys, this is what we need to do. Um.
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  Speaker 1: It gives you confidence as a player, gives a team confidence.
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  Speaker 1: How hard is that to learn as a young player?
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  Speaker 1: And I guess you gotta stay on social media to
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  Speaker 1: do It's social media is everywhere I think as a
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  Speaker 1: young player, I don't think you fully have graphs yet.
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  Speaker 1: How long the NFL season and what goes all into
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  Speaker 1: it and and what it means to be able to
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  Speaker 1: get to the playoffs and then having your chance there
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  Speaker 1: because you used to you know, guy's twelve thirteen games.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's you know, that's still uh not the full season.
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  Speaker 1: So the health aspect of it, staying healthy, um, staying
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  Speaker 1: in your playbook, new game plans, playing teams twice a year.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot that goes in into it. So uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's a roller coaster at times. UM. I think that
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  Speaker 1: that's what makes the NFL so exciting for not only
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  Speaker 1: the players competing, but for fans and audiences. Is like
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  Speaker 1: it's any given Sunday type league, and um, it's fun
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  Speaker 1: to be a part of. It's fun to compete in.
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  Speaker 1: But if you can just stay grounded and play by
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  Speaker 1: play week by week as a young player, surround yourself
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  Speaker 1: with some great veteran leadership, UM, really open your ears
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  Speaker 1: to listening and beginning to find the routine that works
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  Speaker 1: for you. UM. I truly believe. Um, that's how you
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  Speaker 1: grasp it from from a younger age. You mentioned Doug Peterson.
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  Speaker 1: It it strikes me that I don't know why, but
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  Speaker 1: some of the things you just said about staying calm
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  Speaker 1: and staying even he probably speaks to you pretty well
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  Speaker 1: as a coach day in terms of that meaning that's
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  Speaker 1: sort of his nature. It seems like he sort of
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  Speaker 1: gets that use NFL coaches get it, but he he
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  Speaker 1: really seems to walk it. If you will. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think he's very profound in his message to me because
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  Speaker 1: I know what he's saying is true. If that makes sense. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it's not like he paints all these unique type pictures.
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  Speaker 1: They're they're just they're just facts and they seem like
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  Speaker 1: cliches in a sense. They seem so like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well we know that, but do you actually know it
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  Speaker 1: and do you actually believe in it? At least an
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  Speaker 1: act for me, when when Doug says it's about us,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, well, yeah, that's not like groundbreaking or anybody's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is the greatest quote. But if you sincerely think
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  Speaker 1: about it, it's about what you can control. Um, you
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  Speaker 1: can't control the elements. Um, if it's gonna rain, you
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  Speaker 1: can't control whether you're gonna play in a dome or outside,
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  Speaker 1: or you know those sorts of sorts of things, or
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  Speaker 1: even who's gonna be up on your own team. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So that's why you prepare the way that you're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to prepare. That's why you approach the days with a
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  Speaker 1: great and laser like focus, UM, taking your reps seriously,
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  Speaker 1: being able to make mistakes and rebound from mistakes. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what it means to be about us. So that's
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  Speaker 1: just one example of what Doug speaks to us as
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  Speaker 1: a team that I really grasp hold onto and I
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  Speaker 1: try not to forget those things. I remind myself daily
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  Speaker 1: something I should have known. I guess I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: and have forgotten catches in college that is. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's a record. So but that's a lot of balls
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  Speaker 1: to catch. M and when you catch that many, you
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  Speaker 1: get good at it, you gain confidence you can do it.
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  Speaker 1: You know I'm getting I mean production, and you've had
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  Speaker 1: big time production. Uh, it's got to help you going forward. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I never I never entered college saying that I was
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  Speaker 1: going to break this record, this record. This record, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, you also owned a single season. I mean
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  Speaker 1: for the end of the receivers on the team. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there were actually and you know what, uh, John, I
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  Speaker 1: think the main thing that was is justin Hardy cat
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  Speaker 1: came before me, which is one of my teammates who
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  Speaker 1: played in the league, and you know, he had actually
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  Speaker 1: broken the record. So it was around my sophomore year
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  Speaker 1: that I saw it could be done. Um, and when
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  Speaker 1: I saw that, I began to visualize myself doing something
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  Speaker 1: to that magnitude and doing something that great. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's when that that quest or vision so to speak,
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  Speaker 1: kind of panned out. But from the beginning, I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to help my team. I just wanted to be
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  Speaker 1: on the field. I just wanted to be a part
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  Speaker 1: of it and and literally get the ball rolling. And
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  Speaker 1: as I went on and on, I didn't. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think I was gonna have a hundred and fifty eight
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  Speaker 1: catches for yards or whatever it was. And in a
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  Speaker 1: single season. That was just the work I was putting in,
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  Speaker 1: and the works never finished. So leading into the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: my production for what I did in college was great, um,
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  Speaker 1: literally record breaking, But that work has never done for me.
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  Speaker 1: There's mistakes and and things that I still make today
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  Speaker 1: at seven that I'm trying to improve upon, and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I'm never a finished product. You know. I
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  Speaker 1: consistently just want to work and be the best that
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  Speaker 1: I can. And you know, I'm gonna be able to
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  Speaker 1: look back later on in my professional career and possibly
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  Speaker 1: look at some of the great things I did like
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  Speaker 1: I did in college. This on that front is it's
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  Speaker 1: a big opportunity. You've been productive in the NFL, probably
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  Speaker 1: not as productive as you want to be, yet, Um,
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  Speaker 1: what kind of opportunity is this in terms of your career?
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  Speaker 1: I think it's huge. Yeah, I mean I think every
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  Speaker 1: season presents its own challenges and they're supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: a new level or i'd like to think there's a
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  Speaker 1: new level that you can that you can reach as
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  Speaker 1: as years go on. So I think I'm myself's biggest critic,
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  Speaker 1: harshest critic, so to speak. Um, No one evaluates or
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  Speaker 1: critiques my game harder than I do. And the things
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  Speaker 1: that I want to do UM in this league are astronomical. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm just one man, So
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  Speaker 1: I can't I can't think it's all gonna be about me,
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  Speaker 1: or that I'm gonna solely do this by myself. And
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  Speaker 1: so now you have to separate what's the most important thing.
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  Speaker 1: The most important thing is this team winning football games,
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  Speaker 1: which ultimately helps me also in the end. So when
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  Speaker 1: you place those team goals ahead and you find how
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  Speaker 1: your role can carve out and you can execute that
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  Speaker 1: role within there, naturally guy's production comes along. And sometimes
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  Speaker 1: when you're just playing the game, the ball finds you,
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  Speaker 1: things finds you, things happen for you. If you have
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  Speaker 1: the right mindset and the right attitude approaching uh the
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  Speaker 1: game in season. How much better receiver are you now
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  Speaker 1: when you came into the league. Maybe it's a professionalism, preparation, maturity,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, all those things go into it, I assume
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  Speaker 1: you prepare better two. Yeah, I think it's just very
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  Speaker 1: much refined. I think I had all the attributes and tools,
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  Speaker 1: but I wasn't. I wasn't as sharp and as refined
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  Speaker 1: as I am now, and just naturally that experience of
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  Speaker 1: seeing the game through a different lens of understanding where
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  Speaker 1: I need to be, how I need to be, how
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  Speaker 1: does my quarterback see it? What is the defense actually
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  Speaker 1: showing me where they're going to end up, and like
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  Speaker 1: those sorts of details like that. I was very very
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  Speaker 1: clueless my rookie season. I didn't really have a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot of true guidance since understanding. You know, it's just
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  Speaker 1: the way it flows. So, um, I'm proud of myself
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  Speaker 1: for how far I've come in this league. I'm proud
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  Speaker 1: to be a part of this organization with these guys.
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  Speaker 1: But I know for myself, I still have a very
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  Speaker 1: very long road to go to get to where I
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  Speaker 1: ultimately see myself. Now, who's the fastest Jaguar? Who's the
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  Speaker 1: fastest Jaguar? Yeah? I like this because most guys automatically
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  Speaker 1: save themselves. Yeah, I know. Um, Me and Jamal Agnew
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  Speaker 1: have talked some some playful back and forth. I'm fast,
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  Speaker 1: pretty fast. He is very very fast. He's very electric. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I would say thirty nine probably is. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: a he's a fast dude. I got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: respect for him too. It's rare most guys won't say.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, I've had guys who are
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  Speaker 1: clearly not the fastest guy on the team tell me that.
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  Speaker 1: I've never had a I didn't have like a hundred
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  Speaker 1: plus yard touchdown. So you gotta be well, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: be pretty quick. You gotta be moving to get that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's fair. What you know? People don't know. Father Robert
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  Speaker 1: Jones played. I think it was eleven years in the league.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Um, what you know? Such a cliche question.
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  Speaker 1: But how did that help you? What did you learn
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  Speaker 1: from him? I know you were only about four or
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  Speaker 1: five when he stopped playing, or six, But anything there
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  Speaker 1: that he taught you told you about the league, surviving
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  Speaker 1: in it, thriving in it. Yeah for sure. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: as you said, my dad played for ten years. Um,
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of rings to show for. He shows
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  Speaker 1: off though something. He's got three of them. He's got three,
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  Speaker 1: got two with Dallas and one with St. Louis Rams. No,
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  Speaker 1: he's got They're all three with Dallas Das. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was on the Rams. Yeah, he was
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  Speaker 1: on the Rams, but he got three with Dallas got. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Just the mentality, the approach that you need to have. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it's this game is not just rolling the ball out
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  Speaker 1: and is going out there and doing whatever they want
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  Speaker 1: to do. But truly the mental aspect of it and
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  Speaker 1: the mental fortitude that it takes to play this game.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, day in and day out, week after week,
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  Speaker 1: season after season. Um, I'm at year six and he
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  Speaker 1: did tent and you know, the body begins to hurt
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more, you know, the continuous crime and
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: you know back in the nineties there are two days
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  Speaker 1: and stuff that they're doing was was, you know, perfectly different. Yea.
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  Speaker 1: So just the mental he says he can cover me,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he can at all. I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: he would blow both hamstrings. Quality could. No, he couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: Now if I was trying to run through the box,
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  Speaker 1: it's different. He could play. It's very very different. But no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he could cover me. But yeah, Pops
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  Speaker 1: has uh definitely been He's one of the main reasons
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  Speaker 1: I'm here. He is. He is the reason I'm here. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you played with Josh, I mean he was a rookie. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're playing with Trevor Lawrence. Josh was not perfect as
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  Speaker 1: a kie. He struggled. He's now elite. Any comparisons any
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  Speaker 1: uh do you ever share that with Trevor any thoughts
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  Speaker 1: in that direction, because Trevor is still developing. Yeah, you follow,
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  Speaker 1: they are. They are very there, eerily similar from if
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  Speaker 1: you're comparing the years they're at, you know, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of credits to Josh and what he's done and in
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  Speaker 1: the organization. But um, Trevor is, he's a very very
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  Speaker 1: special talent. He's a very special talent and some of
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  Speaker 1: the same things that obviously we're seeing and Josh. I
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  Speaker 1: don't like comparing people because I think that even though
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  Speaker 1: I just said they are similar, they're they're different, so
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  Speaker 1: their growth track could be completely different. But um size, speed, um,
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  Speaker 1: armed talent, um, just intelligence. I mean, Trevor has all
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  Speaker 1: the intangibles, and I really feel like he's gonna put
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  Speaker 1: it together and he's gonna he's gonna be phenomenal for
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  Speaker 1: this organization for a long time down the road. A
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  Speaker 1: silly question, but I'm fascinated by its best receiver. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: your favorite receiver? Do you have a guy my favorite
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  Speaker 1: receiver in the league or ever that you watched. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I know you study the game. Yeah, I got tons
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  Speaker 1: of receivers. Um. I actually didn't play receiver at first
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  Speaker 1: in football. I was a running back guy. Um, but
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  Speaker 1: when I transitioned to receiver, one of the first ones
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  Speaker 1: that I really really admired was Calvin Johnson. I thought
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  Speaker 1: he was absolutely phenomenal just the way he did Andre
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  Speaker 1: Johnson as well. Um, I'm kind of old school, I
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  Speaker 1: guess because of my dad. So I know, like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like Marvin Harrison, like very very o j McDuffie, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: very old school. I just respected those guys and the
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  Speaker 1: likes of obviously Jerry Rice, Randy Moss. But recently in league,
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm a fan of a lot of guys just
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  Speaker 1: like just naturally respect a lot of guys I've played
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  Speaker 1: with in this league. Um, you know, I could name
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  Speaker 1: a lot, but Hunter Renfro is one of my guys
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  Speaker 1: that like, I just love his game. Cooper Cup um digs.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys that I respect to Um,
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  Speaker 1: go down the list of the people that I like
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  Speaker 1: to watch. Got you. It sounds like you like where
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  Speaker 1: this team is and where it's going right now, even
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  Speaker 1: though two and three I you still like the direction,
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  Speaker 1: You still like what's going on. I assume I'm reading
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  Speaker 1: that right. Yeah. What gives you confidence? Just a group
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  Speaker 1: of guys and the what we've been through already. Right,
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  Speaker 1: so if if you go back, none of us knew
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  Speaker 1: each other really and and o ta training camp. We
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: all came in essentially like coaches included. Nobody was here,
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  Speaker 1: and um, we build a rapport. We learn each other,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: getting on the same page, how people talk, you know,
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  Speaker 1: getting cell phone numbers, things like that, texting, trying to
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: hang out, just learn about each other, bonding, and then
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: we go through you know tis then we go to
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  Speaker 1: the training camp. Training camp is not easy. I don't
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  Speaker 1: care who you are, like, it's it's a grueling process.
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  Speaker 1: And to go through the preseason games to work out,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the kinks in the offense and obviously for
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  Speaker 1: our defense and special teams as well too. To drop
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  Speaker 1: the first game, to come back and to respond, to
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  Speaker 1: come back and respond again in a major way. To
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  Speaker 1: dropping a game, to struggling again. Um, that's what builds
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  Speaker 1: the story, That's what builds the adversity, that's what builds
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  Speaker 1: why we're doing this. So I feel like it's opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to find out who we are individually as men and
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  Speaker 1: women inside of this building and how we're going to
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  Speaker 1: two carry on and finish. Story hadn't been written yet.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, five games. You know what I'm saying. Don't
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  Speaker 1: pay it the last thing we do yet. I call
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  Speaker 1: it the A zone. Five Just five quick questions. Have
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  Speaker 1: a little fun with it. Um A Jones? What your
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: last binge watch? If you or a TV guy? Pinky
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  Speaker 1: Peaky Blinders, how did you watch it? I My wife
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  Speaker 1: loves it, and I have not sat down start to finish,
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  Speaker 1: but I've watched enough. Yeah it's even never. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: gotta tune in with her. Yeah, well she's sort of
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: halfway through it now, so I've got to go back
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  Speaker 1: and really just a merchanty. But it's, uh, it looks incredible, dude.
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  Speaker 1: It was really good. My friend Chris had asked me
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: to watch it for a long time. I just I
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: never did. I don't know. And then I kind of
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: circled around back to it, and then I couldn't stop.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: You got the best one of all the time. Free,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: what's your favor? You don't have to give it more
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: time because it's still very fresh and so like I'm
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: off the high of the peak. Breaking Bad was good.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Terminal List was good. Chris Pratt did a phenomenal job.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: You've never seen Terminal List writing it down. Please, okay,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: go watch that good Alright, I'm a wire guy, but
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  Speaker 1: that's okay, that's old school. That your classic. They had
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: pay funds inhow oh yeah? Last song you listened to
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: on the way in this morn? Last song I didn't
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: listen to music in the car I was. I was
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: listening to a podcast. You go to song right now?
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, So my cousin Tory Blake has a song out.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: It's called so Glad. Just get a little promo for
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: their but like that, yea, so Glad Tory Blake? All right,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: check it out? Definitely there you go. What sport were
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: you playing? Gammon? Football? I trod baseball. I didn't think
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I was too good at it. People say I would
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: be to be a good outfielder now, but I don't know. Um,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: probably basketball, but I'm not like super super tall I'm
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: only six to um so you're different there too, because
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: most guys can here and say they could play in
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the NBA. No, I'm not one of those. Like, dude,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: if I practice shooting, maybe i'd be good. I could hustle,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: play good defense. Um, I can dunk if no one's there,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I don't think I
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: could dunk going like shock or nothing like that. I guess.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: So three college catches. What was the best one? Uh,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: probably my first touchdown. I remember it. It was in
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: like a five wide set. I was in the slot
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: to the left. We were in the red zone. Shane
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Cardon threw it to me. It was like a quick
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: out with the m O R outside release go and
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I ran like a two step kind of solid defender,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: stuck him straight to the pylon. They kind of dove
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: and it was a cool time. Man. It was Yeah,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: that's exactly That's exactly what it was. It was just
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: like a very groundbreaking moment for me. And because I
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: wasn't really highly recruited in high school at all, I
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: didn't I didn't have like all the offers, like East
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Carolina was my only offer. So final question and I
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: you alluded to it already. Uh. Person most responsible for
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: you being in the NFL, Yeah, take you down. Yeah,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: it'll probably be my father. I mean, glory to God too.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be here without God. But my my father. Um,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: just the what he's overcome in his own personal life
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: and the triumphs that he's overcome. And then but both
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: of my parents actually, like my mom and dad like
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: just being so active and and and present in my life,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: you know, from my parents. Shout out Minisha, shout out
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Robert Dave Jones. Fantastic stuff. I knew it would be.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And I can't thank you enough for joining the Other
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Zone Podcasts week. Appreciate it man, Thank you for having me.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: This has been awesome.