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How Bret Boone went from chillin’ to New Rangers Hitting Coach · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: I've got a lot of experience, but I need to
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  Speaker 1: be able to relate to the current player and I
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  Speaker 1: can still learn from them. So I think that's what
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  Speaker 1: we need to do instead of saying our way, we
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  Speaker 1: did it this way.
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  Speaker 2: Now, tell me some thoughts you have.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk Rangers for a moment here. Yesterday pick up
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  Speaker 3: a dub against the Rockies. This is a very unique story.
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  Speaker 4: Does that count?
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  Speaker 5: You can ask for it.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, it doesn't hurt when fine, you're weak on the
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  Speaker 3: job and you get to face maybe the worst team
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  Speaker 3: of all time.
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  Speaker 6: They're well on pace, but you still got to beat
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  Speaker 6: those teams. True, they're still going to win. I mean
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  Speaker 6: forty five games this year.
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  Speaker 4: I think they get to forty five.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: They're seven and thirty six right now. I think they
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  Speaker 4: get to forty.
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  Speaker 3: They're just focused on double digits. Right now, Let's get
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  Speaker 3: to ten, and I've.
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  Speaker 7: Got a big to forty five. If they get to
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  Speaker 7: forty five, you better start throwing down some nice plus
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  Speaker 7: two fifties for the Rockies because they are about to
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  Speaker 7: pay you cash if you think they're gonna get to
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  Speaker 7: forty five wins, because that's a lot of wins. From
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  Speaker 7: here on out?
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  Speaker 5: What's forty five? What's the means?
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  Speaker 4: They gotta win thirty eight more?
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  Speaker 1: Five?
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  Speaker 4: They gotta win thirty eight more out of like one
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  Speaker 4: hundred and nineteen. They gotta win almost They gotta win
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  Speaker 4: like a third of their games.
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  Speaker 3: If they lose one twenty five with sixty two minus
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  Speaker 3: twenty five, thirty seven some thirty seven's more of the line.
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  Speaker 4: I would say forty Do they get to forty?
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  Speaker 5: That's a good that's a good number.
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  Speaker 4: The White Tux won forty one last year, forty one
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  Speaker 4: forty one games. Kind yeah, I wasn't ready. It's it's
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  Speaker 4: not test. Just do they get to forty?
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  Speaker 6: Gate?
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  Speaker 4: When do they win forty games this year?
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  Speaker 8: Crats you guys, you're essentially saying, I mean you weren't
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  Speaker 8: you looking like you were either farting or thinking, And
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  Speaker 8: you're essentially saying they're going to lose one game out
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  Speaker 8: of every four.
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  Speaker 7: They're gonna lose one game out every four. It might
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  Speaker 7: be profitable to start just betting the money line on
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  Speaker 7: the Rockies.
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  Speaker 2: Yak about the numbers.
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  Speaker 5: I'll go I'll go forty.
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  Speaker 4: They're gonna win forty, so they're gonna set the all
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  Speaker 4: time lost record by one.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: If they do, we'll be following it.
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  Speaker 4: Oh dude, we were all over it last year with
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  Speaker 4: the White Sox. Rage is definitely gonna be under the
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  Speaker 4: Rockies we were.
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  Speaker 5: Let's talk about good ball, Rangers ball. Next, here we go.
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  Speaker 5: Brett Boone is the Rangers hitting coach.
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  Speaker 3: He's obviously had a great podcast for years, obviously an
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  Speaker 3: amazing career in the bigs. And now you blank, Brett,
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  Speaker 3: and here you are doing interviews as the Rangers hitting coach.
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  Speaker 3: Great to have you on.
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  Speaker 5: Dude. How's life the first week and a half or
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  Speaker 5: so on the job?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, guys, good to see. Uh a whirlwind, but we are.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting a little acclimated now. Got my housing set up,
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  Speaker 1: you know, all the importance. Got my car washed today,
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  Speaker 1: so uh we're we're easing it. No, it's it's been great.
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  Speaker 1: It was you know, crazy, crazy story and the fact
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  Speaker 1: that I'm sitting here. I even woke up, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting on the plane last Monday. I woke up
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  Speaker 1: and I thought what am I doing? And then I
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  Speaker 1: got on the plane, got to got to uh Fenway,
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  Speaker 1: and uh it all made sense. So so far, so
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  Speaker 1: good boys are boys are swinging a little bit. We
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  Speaker 1: got a tough series starting to night with Houston, but uh,
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  Speaker 1: so far, so good.
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  Speaker 2: It's cool to be back.
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  Speaker 4: It is what do we call you? What do we
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  Speaker 4: call you? Because Bratton, do we call you boom? You
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  Speaker 4: can't call you booney because that's your brother.
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  Speaker 2: You can call you want a j You're good, You're
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  Speaker 2: good like that. You can call me whatever you want.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So I got to tell this story. And so
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  Speaker 4: my wife from Brent and I we go twenty years,
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  Speaker 4: we go back, right, Yeah, And so Brent used to
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  Speaker 4: have a shirt that said I know boone and I
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  Speaker 4: got one. I wish I still had that shirt. Was
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  Speaker 4: like three sizes ago, but I wish I still had
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  Speaker 4: that shirt because it was made from my cotton, like
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  Speaker 4: the old cotton T shirts that were like you know, oh,
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  Speaker 4: they stuck to you. But I woren't all the time
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  Speaker 4: said I know boone. So I don't know. That's why
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  Speaker 4: I asked them to ask the question.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe they'll come back if the Rangers keep it like this.
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  Speaker 2: Who's a lot of those shirts out there?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: What are the what are the hitters? What are the
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  Speaker 7: hitters call you?
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  Speaker 5: You know?
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  Speaker 7: Is that is that a tough acclamation acclamation propless Like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think it's just kind of through the years,
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  Speaker 1: you know, starting with shoot, my grandpa he was Booney,
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  Speaker 1: then my dad was Boonie.
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  Speaker 2: Then I was Booney, then Aaron was Boonie.
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  Speaker 1: Then like AJ said, they call me the Boone, and
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  Speaker 1: that was Mark Macklamore, a teammate of mine, gave me
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  Speaker 1: that name. Uh because Mac played with my dad and
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  Speaker 1: he said, you can't be Booney because I played with
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  Speaker 1: Bob Boone and that it's the real Boonie.
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  Speaker 2: So you're the Boone.
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  Speaker 1: So no guys call me Brett, And uh, most of
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  Speaker 1: the players just Boonie when I'm walking by, which for
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  Speaker 1: the most part, that's that's kind of been all of us.
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  Speaker 1: Wherever we go, Boonie, you just kinda turn your head.
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  Speaker 1: Which one are they talking? Is so anything as long
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  Speaker 1: as these guys hit. I told him, you can call
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  Speaker 1: me whatever you want.
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  Speaker 4: Who do they know who you were? Did any of
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  Speaker 4: these guys did you? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: We're getting to that point where it's like, don't don't
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  Speaker 1: you know who I used to be?
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  Speaker 2: So some of me, some of them are aware.
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  Speaker 1: You got some older players, you know, Marcus Simmy and
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  Speaker 1: he remembers, uh. But some of these young young guys,
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  Speaker 1: Whyet Langford, I look at Whyet?
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  Speaker 2: I said.
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  Speaker 1: Last time I was in a UNI, you were probably three.
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  Speaker 1: So uh yeah, it's it's you know, you know these
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  Speaker 1: days a j they google you. They got any problems,
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  Speaker 1: they just google you.
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  Speaker 4: So yes, by the way, have they seen your commercial?
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  Speaker 2: Have they have?
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  Speaker 4: We have?
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  Speaker 2: We had this.
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  Speaker 4: Conversation, have we seen your commercial? You're one commercial? You
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  Speaker 4: have more than one. But the bat flip rake flip
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  Speaker 4: where you're walking around flipping it is we found literally
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  Speaker 4: had to go to the dark web to find this thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you know what, at the right time, these guys
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  Speaker 1: will enjoy that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, that's so good watching it like spoon flip, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: turth crash.
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  Speaker 5: That's an amazing commercial.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it's the all time in the office. Better by
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  Speaker 4: the way, the outfits you're rocket in that commercial.
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  Speaker 1: Make that a that's early two thousand vintage.
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  Speaker 2: That's what we did back then. Very cool.
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  Speaker 5: That's incredible. All right.
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  Speaker 4: You had to play against him in Safeco to really
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  Speaker 4: appreciate that commercial, because nobody could hit a battle right
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  Speaker 4: center and Boone would hit one and he just looked.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, he talked trash and he's in the
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  Speaker 4: box and he'd hit it and he just goes safeg
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  Speaker 4: flip in and go like ten rows right, and you're.
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  Speaker 2: Like, nobody can even do that.
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  Speaker 4: How the hell are you doing this?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you though.
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  Speaker 1: Now the kid, they'll they'll get me in the cage
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  Speaker 1: here messing around when we got a little lull in
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  Speaker 1: the action, h Age, I just.
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  Speaker 2: Don't have that spring anymore. It's just not there.
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  Speaker 5: Well Langford does. He went APO yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: So tell me about let's get into biz for a
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  Speaker 3: few minutes here. Tell me about what happens once you
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  Speaker 3: get here, Like are you meeting when on one with
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  Speaker 3: players like how can I be helpful? Is there anything
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  Speaker 3: that you felt we should do differently that I can
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  Speaker 3: bring the table, Like, how do you solve the equation
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  Speaker 3: to help a team that clearly wanted to make a
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  Speaker 3: change on offense.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know it's when I got to call from Boach.
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  Speaker 1: Boach and myself, I only played for them one year,
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  Speaker 1: but we have a long standing relationship and I knew
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  Speaker 1: the reason him and see why reached out and wanted
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  Speaker 1: to make a change. We discussed it briefly, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: embracing currently what hitters and how they train in the metrics,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm simplifying as much as I can.
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  Speaker 2: I came in.
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  Speaker 1: I was a little bit quiet at the beginning. I
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  Speaker 1: really got to figure out these guys individually. We're all
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  Speaker 1: so different. You know, I might say one thing that
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  Speaker 1: resonates with one player, and that's going to be it's
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  Speaker 1: not going to resonate with another. So I'm more figuring
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  Speaker 1: out personalities, what makes them tick. But when you get
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  Speaker 1: down to it, it's great hitting is great hitting, and
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  Speaker 1: that starts with a great approach. I said, The one
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  Speaker 1: thing I want you guys to do is I want
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  Speaker 1: you to start watching the game you know these iPads,
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  Speaker 1: They're great. Don't get me wrong, I'm envious of the
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  Speaker 1: technologies these guys have at their fingertips. I wanted all
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  Speaker 1: the information you give me, but there's a time and
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  Speaker 1: a place for it. So do your iPad work. Find
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  Speaker 1: out where that pitch was. Now, there's a reliever coming in.
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  Speaker 1: I want you on this top step and I want
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  Speaker 1: you to watch this guy. I want you to talk
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  Speaker 1: to players. Right, he's talk to right, he's lefties. Talk
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  Speaker 1: to lefties? Would they do last time?
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  Speaker 5: To you?
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  Speaker 2: What's going on in the game. What's the scoreboard? Say?
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  Speaker 1: Who's hitting behind you? Does he have success off this guy?
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  Speaker 1: Or does he not have success? That's going to give
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  Speaker 1: you a little intel. Are they going to come at me?
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  Speaker 1: Are they going to pitch around me with a base open?
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  Speaker 1: These are little things that I learned second half of
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  Speaker 1: my career that were really beneficial. The basics are keep
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  Speaker 1: your brain through the middle of the field. You can
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  Speaker 1: never go wrong with that. And their skill set individually
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  Speaker 1: is going to take over for.
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  Speaker 2: Where your strengths are.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm still I'm still kind of feeling them
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  Speaker 1: out a little bit. But it's been nine days now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting to know the guys a little better. They're
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  Speaker 1: comfortable with me.
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  Speaker 2: Now. I've got Seth and Justin with me. Also, the
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  Speaker 2: hitting guys for Texas. They've been great. And I just said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we're background players here.
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  Speaker 4: We are.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about the players and if we individually can
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  Speaker 1: get that good thought into their mind when they get
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  Speaker 1: to the batter's box, that's what it's all about. I
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  Speaker 1: said something the other day. I said, if that peanut
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  Speaker 1: lady in the eighteenth row can help you get a hit,
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  Speaker 1: let's get her.
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  Speaker 2: Down here in the dugout right now.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it's all about, getting hits, moving that Merry
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  Speaker 1: go round, moving runners. The big thing is I've talked
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  Speaker 1: about every bat's not the same. I go up in
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  Speaker 1: the first inning and not a situation. I'm gonna find
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  Speaker 1: out what's the tone going to be here? And I
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  Speaker 1: set the tone. I think first at bats are really important,
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  Speaker 1: creating the narrative for what's going to happen in your
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  Speaker 1: second of bat and your third. I think the first
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  Speaker 1: game of a series sets the tone. What do you
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  Speaker 1: do individually? It kind of makes you know a j
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this as a catcher, it's sometimes I
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  Speaker 1: got to hit.
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  Speaker 2: Off the catcher. You know, is he thinking with me?
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  Speaker 2: Is he not thinking with me?
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  Speaker 1: These are all little nuances that I think get lost
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  Speaker 1: sometimes when we just want to talk about ex velocity
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  Speaker 1: and spin rate. It's like, let's talk about really what
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  Speaker 1: good hitters do and what they think about. So slowly
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  Speaker 1: trying to get that into the into these guys. And
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  Speaker 1: I also have to remember two years ago, these guys
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  Speaker 1: won a World Series and it's pretty much it's a
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  Speaker 1: very similar roster. So these guys know how to do it.
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  Speaker 1: I want to let them know, Hey, I know you were,
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  Speaker 1: I know you guys are really good. I watched you
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  Speaker 1: hoist that trophy two years ago and I've got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of respect for that. It's just let's find that
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  Speaker 1: magic again. Because what I see up and down this
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  Speaker 1: lineup in Corey's on the il right now. But these
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  Speaker 1: guys can really hit, and then you put Corey Seger
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  Speaker 1: in the middle, you got something. It should be a
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  Speaker 1: top top offense. I think in twenty three it was
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  Speaker 1: the best offensive baseball and that just doesn't go from
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  Speaker 1: best to worse. So I think the next four or
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  Speaker 1: five months, I'm really optimistic about it.
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  Speaker 2: The skill is there, the abilities there. We just got
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  Speaker 2: to do what we got to do.
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  Speaker 1: Behind the scenes to to get it out of these guys.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm impressed. I'm I'm I'm happy. The one thing
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  Speaker 1: that really maybe surprised me more than anything else is
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  Speaker 1: how much emotionally invested I've gotten with these guys already.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I feel like I have twelve or thirteen
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  Speaker 1: kids now, you know, watching my son play in the
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  Speaker 1: minor leagues, it's it's you're living and dying with every
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  Speaker 1: bat with them, yet trying to not let anybody see
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  Speaker 1: you sweat. And and I'm starting to feel that with
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  Speaker 1: these guys. It's you do all the work, pregame and
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  Speaker 1: and you know, all the grunt work, and then all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden you can't get in the box with them.
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  Speaker 1: But but you're living and dying with every bat, and
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  Speaker 1: when they do something really good a situation, they move
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  Speaker 1: a runner, they hit a sack fly. Inside, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to be cool, Aja, I'm trying to be poised,
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  Speaker 1: but inside I'm just going, yes, I feel it with
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  Speaker 1: them too.
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  Speaker 7: What did exactly what did boach? And see why I
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  Speaker 7: say exactly that they wanted you to change.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, they didn't say anything. Bochie just said Boone, I
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  Speaker 1: want you to be Boonie. And he knows how I
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  Speaker 1: think and and my philosophy on hitting and and that
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  Speaker 1: the game changes a little bit. But I think that
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  Speaker 1: that battle between pitcher and hitter. I don't care how
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  Speaker 1: long this game goes. It's still going to be a
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  Speaker 1: cat and a mouse. It's still going to be a
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  Speaker 1: catcher back there seeing what you're doing, watching your feet,
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  Speaker 1: watching your body language. So Boach pretty much knows what
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  Speaker 1: my philosophy is. And he's kind of giving me Carl Blanche.
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  Speaker 1: There are no rules in here. It's come in and
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  Speaker 1: do what you do. And uh just kind of rub
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  Speaker 1: off on these guys. And and it's been a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fun. These guys are you know, it's I've been
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  Speaker 1: away for a while, but but and it's teaching me
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  Speaker 1: you never know where you're going in life. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I was on the beach with my dog. I get
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  Speaker 1: a phone call. I'm I'm at Famiway Park, where I
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  Speaker 1: think my last Big League game I played there, And
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  Speaker 1: at that time, it was just, you know, I'm supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be here for a reason, So I'm not really
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  Speaker 1: questioning anything. I'm just going out and doing my job.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's it's a lot of work. I'm
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  Speaker 1: in that cage, especially on the road. It seems like
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  Speaker 1: I'm in that cage for hours at a time. And
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  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, some of the guys that their
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  Speaker 1: scuffle a little bit, they'll be in the cage and
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  Speaker 1: they'll come back. Then they'll come back again, a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a psycho behavior. But but I can relate
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  Speaker 1: because because I got like that too.
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  Speaker 4: All right, I want to know, I saw you a
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  Speaker 4: couple I saw you at the beginning of the year.
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  Speaker 4: You were in San Diego. You're in street clothes, looking
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  Speaker 4: all dapper, you know, the way you do it, talking
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  Speaker 4: to your son in law, Nick, who plays for the Braves,
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  Speaker 4: you know, talking to him about hitting and talking about this.
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  Speaker 4: Does this give you more street cred with him now
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  Speaker 4: that you're a big league hitting coach, Will he actually
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  Speaker 4: listen to you?
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  Speaker 2: But I think, oh, Nick, street crowd with Nick.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you it, it kind of prepared me
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  Speaker 1: for this because talking to these young players, talking to
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  Speaker 1: my son who just retired now he's working in New
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  Speaker 1: York in the Commissioner's office. But being around these young players,
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  Speaker 1: I found it as much as the game is change,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: it stays the same. It's just the verbage is different.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: You know, Nickel, call me and Brett this is what
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: I'm doing. And then I'm gonna hear a couple numbers.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna hear spin rates, and I'm gonna say, you
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: know what that is that spin rate you just mentioned.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: That's a great slider in my generation. And he'll mention
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: another spin rate and I'll say, that's a mediocre slider.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: We need to knock the crap out of it. Same
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: with exit velocities. You know what That exit velocity is
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: one hundred and six. That's a bullet in our generation.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: So I think, as much as the verbage as it's
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: still the same thing. They just they say it a
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: little bit differently. But I had a little idea, and
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: on a serious note, having Nick there and having long
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: conversations with him, and I listen, here's what I think
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: in the message out there that I try to bring.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: You know, you see older players sometimes and they get
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: a little oh it was better when we played. We
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: don't like this current game. I think I think that's
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: a naive approach to hitting. I think as much experience
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: as we have as ex players who are in this game,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I've been in this game my whole life, starting with
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: my dad and then my career and watching my kids
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: grow up. I've got a lot of experience. But I
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: need to be able to relate to the current player
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: and I can still learn from them. So I think
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: that's what we need to do instead of saying our way,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: we did it this way. Now, tell me some thoughts
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: you have and maybe and I've been impressed. Sometimes I'll
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: say I wish, I wish I thought like that when
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I was playing.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: That's a good thing.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: But listen to the to the older generation as well,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: and if you can meet somewhere in the middle, I
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: think that's where the magic.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: That's where you make the magic.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's just an ongoing thing, generation after
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: generation after generation, we can all learn from one another.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: By the way, one of my prouder moments, I just
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: looked up your career war. I have one more war
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: than you, so suck it, Boon.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: And you know what, I make it even worse.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: I was the pick one pick ahead of your brother
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: in the draft, so apparently I'm just one better than
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: the Boone family.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I can't believe you're dropping war. We didn't even.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Know what war. I trust me.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: And you know that I love I knew what war was.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I would have doubled your war.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Well you did it. You know what You're won behind me,
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: just like your brother. Okay, so I'm one.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: And you're quoting.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: You're quoting metrics that we didn't get paid on average.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Homer's RBIs. That's what we're out to trade on.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: You're right, You're right, you're right, all right? So sorry,
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: two more things. One, I'm gonna ask you this because
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: I know you know him, or I know you knew him.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Pete Rose interer out. That's it. I just want to
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: know in a.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: J you're putting me in a tough spot.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: And I saw a segment, you know, when I was
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: when I was editing my Brett Boom podcast. I checked
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: out a little foul territory. I saw you talking about it.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I said, I hope he doesn't ask me about this.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Pete played with my father in Philadelphia and won a
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: World series with him. I've spent many a night sleeping
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: over at Pete Rose, Pete Rose's.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: House and growing up, I had a lot of favorites.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: It was who's going to spend time with me today?
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Is gonna be like Schmidt Carlton when my dad went
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: to the Angels? Is am I going to hang out
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: with Reggie today?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I had?
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I had an unbelievable childhood, very blessed. And I never
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: had a favorite player. They'd asked me who's my favorite player?
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: I don't have one. I love them all. I just
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: like hanging around all of them.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: But when pushkov the shove and and you ask me
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: who is your favorite player to watch, Pete Rose is
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: number one for me? Way he way he played the game.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Four hits wasn't enough. I need to get five. Love
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the man may rest in peace.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: He broke a pretty coveted rule and a rule that.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: You know, it really puts me in a bad spot
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: because I want to say absolutely but I but I
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: can't say that because that's the one rule.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Uh that was kind of top of the mountain. So
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: are you gonna press me on it? Or can I just.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: We're good?
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: So before we let you go, because you gotta let
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: you go. I know you gotta go to work. But
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: I got asked if this is a true story. Paul
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Knerko played with you in Cincinnati for like a week.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: It's true. I can say it already. It's true. PAULI
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: ain't get a light to you. Go ahead, Okay.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: So there was a pop up that goes up behind
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: first base. Pauli's running back. He's like, I got it,
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I got it. You call him off, you catch it,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: and you look at him and go, heyrook. I win
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: gold gloves on my fielding percentage. So I get every pop.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Up, every pop well. Plus I don't trust the first base,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: you know. And I was trying to I was trying
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: to add to my war.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: AJ that's to say exactly exactly right. And your range factor,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: your range factor.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Range factor war, that's where it's at. Baby. Look at
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Dantae Baschet's war. That's what I think of war.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: That dude, he was a beast for three or four
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: years and he's got like a five war.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: That's where you lose me on war.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Now you lose me on war when you show things
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: like certain guys are better than loul winikerss seventy five war.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: He's not in the Hall of fame. What are we
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: doing if that's what the end all all is.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I think with the Hall of Fame, and it
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: comes to Hall of Fame, I think you have to
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: go generation by generation. So for us, what was important
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: for us, That's what you judge us on. Did we
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: dominate our position? Now the current guys, I think you're
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: gonna have to weigh ops war because that's what they
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: trained for. So I think you can't just blanket. Until
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: this modern era, it was kind of a blanket thing.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: But then you go back way back in the day,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: it was a dead ball era, so you didn't you
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: didn't really judge guys on home runs because the balls
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: were wound differently or something. So I think you you
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: got to take each individual generation and who are the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: best of the best at the time, not necessarily the metrics.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: He's right, five point six career base I mean.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: At five point you saw that Bronni five point six.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Come on, this guy was a difference maker, MVP candidate, right.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I know he's playing in Colorado, but still pretty good numbers.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: I agree. I agree, that's the shame. That's not a
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: good judgment of a player like that.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: Out Booneie, have fun. We're rooting for you.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: We're excited for this, so off to a good start
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: and we'll catch you down the line.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: All right, I appreciate it, guys, thank you.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: All right, we're back for it.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: By the way, I just asked the question, does Brett
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Boone still do his podcast? And they think he does.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: I told you I did his podcast a while ago.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: It was like a two hour interview. It was a
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: full on thing. I remember I left my house and
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: I walked up here and I was like, Oh, I
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: told my wife. I said, oh, I'm doing Brett. You know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: she knows Boone. I'm like, we don't think it would
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: be I thought it'd be like fifteen to twenty minutes.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Like an hour and forty later. I come back, She's like,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: where did you go? I was like, I told you,
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: and she's like, ah, Boone does talk a lot. Yeah,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: but no, he's listen, dude. He's one of my A
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: lot of people didn't like him. I loved him. We
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: got along awesome. We played a lot of golf together
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: and been on Nike trip before a bunch of times together.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Had some good times. But if you want to talk baseball,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: the two interviews we've had today honestly are hitting gold
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: from him, what he said about like the scoreboard and
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: every bat's different build it bats to a series, to
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: a game. All that stuff is what you need.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: He's also just a straight shooter from what I've experienced
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: working with him, and some people can't handle the truth