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150 | Vegetable Shanties · You Didn't Ask For This

• 0:00
  Matt: Eric, I'm irked.
• 0:01
  Matt: Irked.
• 0:02
  Matt: Irked, I tell you.
• 0:03
  Matt: You know, much recently we discussed the Biskoff, uh, the glory of Biskoff.
• 0:09
  Matt: Oh my god.
• 0:10
  Eric: And how it how it goes up the global sensation biskoff.
• 0:13
  Matt: And yes, and how the sensations seem to come out of nowhere.
• 0:16
  Eric: Yeah.
• 0:17
  Eric: People are waking up.
• 0:19
  Eric: They were sleeping on them.
• 0:20
  Eric: Now Biskoff's gonna tuck them in.
• 0:22
  Matt: Now they're wa yes, and they're waking up, and that I think is key.
• 0:25
  Matt: Because no one's pretending like Biskoff was always the big bad biscoff that it is now.
• 0:31
  Matt: But it was always there.
• 0:32
  Matt: It was always there.
• 0:33
  Eric: Every ever-present threat.
• 0:36
  Matt: It was the ever-present threat.
• 0:38
  Matt: But what I am irked by is good heavens to Betsy.
• 0:42
  Matt: No, not Biskoff, don't worry.
• 0:43
  Matt: Oh, thank God.
• 0:44
  Matt: Still love Biskoff.
• 0:46
  Matt: There's a phrase that has, I'm going to say, plagued the nation, if not the world.
• 0:54
  Matt: Oh, here we go.
• 0:55
  Matt: In about the last year or two.
• 0:58
  Matt: And not a single soul out there can tell me that it hasn't just been the last year or two.
• 1:06
  Matt: But so many people are out here pretending, pretending like it's always been around.
• 1:16
  Matt: And I can't, I don't know that I can pinpoint exactly why this phrase ignites a rage within me.
• 1:25
  Matt: But what I can guarantee is it is a rage.
• 1:28
  Eric: Yeah, I can see you physically getting angry at all.
• 1:30
  Eric: Like I'm watching the fucking you're like everything in you tighten up like a cord.
• 1:37
  Matt: Eric, I guarantee you have had this experience.
• 1:40
  Matt: Okay.
• 1:41
  Matt: It ha one day somebody said it.
• 1:44
  Matt: And you said, huh.
• 1:46
  Matt: What a weird thing to say.
• 1:48
  Matt: And ever since then you've heard it all the time in cafes, in your bistros, in your libraries, in your circuit cities, if they start in a town near you.
• 2:04
  Matt: In a town near you.
• 2:05
  Matt: You have walked through the door, and a retail employee or a waiter or a bartender looked at you in your human eyes and said, Welcome in.
• 2:21
  Matt: Welcome in.
• 2:25
  Matt: Welcome in.
• 2:28
  Matt: As if it's something that humans have said prior to, I'm going to say 2024.
• 2:35
  Eric: So so the so we're so we're now dissecting this.
• 2:40
  Eric: What I'm I'm I'm gonna go ahead and say is probably a deep mandala effect thing for you.
• 2:46
  Eric: Uh you're gonna have to explain your logic there.
• 2:48
  Matt: I don't see how this is a mandala effect.
• 2:50
  Eric: Well, it sounds like a bunch of people have been telling you that this is a thing people always said, and you're like, no, this is a recent thing.
• 2:57
  Matt: It's not it's not that people are necessarily saying that it is uh always been a thing.
• 3:02
  Matt: It's that people are acting like oh, acting like that's it, that that's like a totally normal thing.
• 3:08
  Matt: As if you didn't used to say, Oh, hey, how you how's it going?
• 3:13
  Matt: Come on in, or oh, how can I help you?
• 3:16
  Matt: Welcome in.
• 3:17
  Matt: You can't tell me people were just saying this.
• 3:20
  Eric: Here's the fucked up thing is I know it's been said to me, but I couldn't for the life of me tell you where.
• 3:28
  Eric: Really, and if I and if like like like because every context I'm trying to think of, I was like, they wouldn't have said welcome in.
• 3:35
  Matt: That's good and and that's what I think irks me the most.
• 3:38
  Matt: Yeah, is because it is often said, in my opinion, in the circumstances where it makes the least amount of sense.
• 3:46
  Matt: I was told welcome in in a fucking Lowe's era.
• 3:53
  Eric: Okay.
• 3:53
  Eric: Uh welcome in.
• 3:56
  Eric: Welcome in.
• 3:58
  Eric: Like talking to you like we're we're in like a little cozy shack in the woods.
• 4:04
  Eric: Yeah, welcome in.
• 4:06
  Eric: Oh, yes.
• 4:06
  Matt: If I'm if I'm if searching through the woods for a for a guru to to impart the some sort of sacred knowledge to me, and he says, Oh, welcome in.
• 4:19
  Matt: Greetings, traveler.
• 4:21
  Matt: That is that is appropriate.
• 4:23
  Matt: That is who I want to be saying, welcome into.
• 4:27
  Eric: It's a phrase I want to hear from someone if I'm entering the space in which they sleep, eat, andor fuck.
• 4:35
  Eric: Sure.
• 4:36
  Eric: Do you know what I mean?
• 4:37
  Eric: Like, if I'm stepping into that classification of space for them, then they are afforded the right to be like, oh, welcome in.
• 4:45
  Matt: Like, well, give me a lot of people.
• 4:47
  Matt: I don't even know if I agree there.
• 4:49
  Matt: Because, like, if someone opened their apartment door, if I'm showing up to a nice little dinner party and they said, Welcome in, I think I'd be like, see ya.
• 4:58
  Eric: Fine.
• 4:59
  Matt: Actually, don't want to come in.
• 5:01
  Eric: I will say, to this is a tonal language of welcoming, we're we're talking here, because like I feel like the tone with which you say it can massage so much weirdness out of it.
• 5:16
  Eric: Like, like if we're like if it's a party, like say the party started at six, but for whatever reason you're getting there at like eight or nine, maybe you were at a show or out to a dinner or somebody you're crying, but we've already been hitting the cooler party.
• 5:30
  Eric: We've already been getting you.
• 5:31
  Eric: Yeah, if you're at a cooler party and then you come to my party and I'm shit fit, and you walk around like, oh, welcome in.
• 5:42
  Eric: Like, like I hit you with like one of the like a big like it the more like kind of over the top with it you are, the less weird it feels.
• 5:53
  Matt: Because I think it feels to me like an incomplete phrase.
• 5:57
  Matt: Welcome in.
• 5:58
  Matt: So you set welcome in.
• 6:00
  Matt: It it makes it seem like there should be something else that yeah, read attached.
• 6:07
  Eric: It reads like you're like you're an NPC and an RPG.
• 6:10
  Eric: Like like I I've walked welcome in.
• 6:13
  Eric: Yes, Eric.
• 6:14
  Eric: Yes.
• 6:14
  Eric: What news of the road?
• 6:16
  Eric: Like, like, like you're just you're just welcome in there shining a glass until I click the exclamation point above your head.
• 6:23
  Eric: Like you're welcome in.
• 6:25
  Eric: The thing is, you could just say welcome.
• 6:28
  Matt: That I I think that's part, but you but again, I really truly believe that this is not something that's like, oh, I moved to an area and suddenly uh the you know, everyone's I've heard it everywhere I've gone for like the past two years, it's popped up, and I'm I'm swear to god, it was one day, no one said this thing, and all of a sudden it's like everywhere, it's everywhere.
• 6:55
  Eric: It got Chick-fil-A'd.
• 6:56
  Eric: It got Chick-fil-A' it it's it's how I go to McDonald's now, and now they're saying my pleasure.
• 7:02
  Eric: My pleasure.
• 7:04
  Eric: My ple it's been my pleasure.
• 7:06
  Eric: Oh that's how I know.
• 7:08
  Eric: Like, there's like, oh you got you got axed, you got cut from the first string.
• 7:14
  Matt: Oh, you're calling Chick-fil-A first string?
• 7:16
  Eric: I'm t no no no.
• 7:17
  Eric: In terms of like ethics and morality, in terms of ethics and morality, they're fucking in the in the garbage can.
• 7:25
  Eric: But in terms of making a fast food chicken sandwich, yeah, they're pretty fucking good at that.
• 7:31
  Matt: Chicken sandwich, yes, but you know, and milkshake.
• 7:33
  Matt: I'll uh I'll give it to them.
• 7:34
  Matt: Oh, you don't like waffle fries, do you?
• 7:37
  Matt: I like waffle fries just okay.
• 7:39
  Matt: Good.
• 7:40
  Eric: Good.
• 7:40
  Matt: Eric, you're forgetting that we went to a college that had a Chick-fil-A in it.
• 7:46
  Matt: In one of the like dining halls, and this was prior to their it being well known how shitty they are as a company.
• 7:55
  Eric: Uh so well, you and I enjoyed a guilt-free four-year oasis of we we were in the golden age of Chick-fil-A where they were just they were they're fucking everywhere and ever and nobody fucking sucked.
• 8:12
  Eric: We didn't know anything about the money trail.
• 8:14
  Eric: I have carried this cursed knowledge with me for over a decade, it feels like, and I that's about as been as long as since I've had Chick-fil-A.
• 8:22
  Matt: I think one of one of the greatest joys is when you show up someplace and someone else has brought Chick-fil-A, because then you're clear.
• 8:34
  Eric: Guilt free.
• 8:35
  Eric: I mean now it's food waste.
• 8:37
  Eric: Yeah, it's it Alyssa has a policy.
• 8:39
  Eric: She's like, she's like, fur is murder.
• 8:42
  Eric: Don't buy, don't ever buy fur.
• 8:44
  Eric: Don't ever like like no animal should die to make my clothing.
• 8:48
  Eric: But if she sees fur in like an antique shop or a thrift store, sure.
• 8:53
  Eric: Yoink.
• 8:54
  Eric: Like, like what what are you gonna do?
• 8:55
  Eric: Not like so.
• 8:56
  Eric: If I see that you, hateful person that you already dead, unmitigated piece of shit, bastard that you are, have brought a chicken nugget tray, like I'll be happy to partake.
• 9:08
  Eric: The hate chicken already got your dollar, buddy.
• 9:10
  Eric: I'm gonna be watching you now.
• 9:12
  Eric: Excuse me, while I dunk into the Polynesia.
• 9:15
  Eric: Excuse me, while I take a dip into the sin.
• 9:19
  Eric: Welcome in.
• 9:23
  Matt: No, I fucking hate you.
• 9:26
  Matt: That was so good.
• 9:27
  Matt: God fuck you.
• 9:28
  Eric: It's been my pleasure.
• 9:29
  Eric: Bye.
• 9:54
  Matt: 150?
• 9:55
  Matt: That's pretty nifty.
• 9:56
  Matt: Pretty nifty.
• 9:58
  Matt: My name's Matt Shea.
• 9:59
  Matt: My name is Eric Poach.
• 10:02
  Matt: Eric Poach, we've been answering life's least pressing questions for 150 and six years now.
• 10:11
  Matt: I know what you meant.
• 10:12
  Matt: Also, no, 150 episodes.
• 10:14
  Matt: There you go.
• 10:15
  Matt: 156 years we've been answering questions.
• 10:18
  Matt: For 156 years we have held the line.
• 10:21
  Matt: We've held the line.
• 10:23
  Matt: We have have fielded the queries no one else will tackle.
• 10:28
  Matt: Yes.
• 10:29
  Matt: Yes.
• 10:30
  Matt: Scraped the bottom of this barrel time and time again.
• 10:34
  Eric: And Matt, to celebrate, I took a note.
• 10:37
  Eric: You took a note, Eric?
• 10:38
  Eric: I took a note.
• 10:39
  Eric: You'll notice, Matt, that normally when my overhead light is off, that I am encased in shadow as if I were an assassin.
• 10:47
  Matt: Yes, you still are pretty much in shadow.
• 10:49
  Eric: No, but you'll notice now that I have a warm, healthy glow upon me.
• 10:55
  Eric: I can flicker your face.
• 10:56
  Eric: Yes, yes.
• 10:57
  Eric: As if from the flickering of a fireplace.
• 11:01
  Eric: Uh words.
• 11:02
  Matt: You've set a fire in your bedroom.
• 11:04
  Eric: No, Matthew, that is none other than the Himalayan salt lamp.
• 11:10
  Eric: Oh, a Himalayan soft lamp.
• 11:13
  Eric: With a dimmer switch.
• 11:14
  Eric: Yeah.
• 11:16
  Eric: See, hear this.
• 11:17
  Eric: I I look like this is the picture they're gonna post on on like the news when Yes, and this is what I normally see.
• 11:26
  Matt: When they're like, oh, he was such a quiet man.
• 11:28
  Matt: But meanwhile, I have like a ring light on me.
• 11:31
  Matt: I just got the warm backlight.
• 11:34
  Matt: I even have a display case with lights in it.
• 11:36
  Eric: Turn this way, you can see the reflection of the Himalayan salt lamp and the madness of my eyes.
• 11:42
  Matt: I can mainly see the reflection of me in your eyes, glasses there.
• 11:45
  Matt: Yeah, yeah.
• 11:46
  Matt: Such is your light.
• 11:48
  Eric: I'm bathed in a warm, velvety, dulcet glow.
• 11:52
  Matt: Yeah, well, okay, we can um because overhead light lights.
• 11:55
  Matt: We'll call it taking a note.
• 11:56
  Matt: We'll call it taking a note.
• 11:58
  Eric: Because overhead lights make me upset.
• 12:01
  Matt: Well, I don't have an overhead light on, Eric.
• 12:03
  Matt: I have a regular lamp and a ring light on me.
• 12:06
  Eric: Oh, there's fucking other 150.
• 12:10
  Eric: Welcome to You Didn't Ask For This, the podcast where we answered life's least pressing questions.
• 12:16
  Matt: Oh, you we're just you're gonna do the intro now for the next batch of 150.
• 12:23
  Eric: No, bro, I'll take the next 150.
• 12:25
  Eric: Could you imagine?
• 12:28
  Eric: No.
• 12:28
  Eric: No, there would be riots in the streets, and by in the streets, I mean in Matt's chair, he would fucking die.
• 12:35
  Eric: We have to give the audience some level of consistency.
• 12:38
  Eric: We have yes, we have to have stability in this relationship.
• 12:42
  Eric: Speaking of relationships, very good, Eric.
• 12:45
  Matt: Yes, we um we want to do something a little special for the 150th episode.
• 12:52
  Matt: You know, it we don't really we release bi weekly.
• 12:55
  Matt: So, you know, while some podcasts would hit this mark like three years ago, you know, it it's taken us low these many years to get this.
• 13:05
  Eric: We believe in a slow burn.
• 13:07
  Eric: We like to edge our audience, yes, very white lotus of us.
• 13:11
  Matt: Yes, and so and so the uh boom boom boom boom boom very good.
• 13:17
  Matt: New opening theme.
• 13:25
  Matt: It's the most unhinged theme song.
• 13:27
  Matt: I love it so much.
• 13:28
  Matt: Um anyway, the so I was reminded we had an idea that we were gonna pursue, and then my lovely wife, Dr.
• 13:40
  Matt: Lindsay Armbar, had this great idea that uh a number of years ago, the New York Times popularized what had already been going around from uh a psychiatrist or a psychologist, rather's uh uh m Mandy Len Cochrone's uh modern love essay is where it started out.
• 14:03
  Matt: The 36 questions to fall in love.
• 14:08
  Eric: So the I the idea being that these are 36 questions you could ask someone.
• 14:13
  Eric: Yes.
• 14:13
  Eric: To to like to like know their heart and soul.
• 14:17
  Matt: To know them.
• 14:18
  Matt: To know capital K know them.
• 14:21
  Matt: Not biblically, but close.
• 14:24
  Matt: Biblically, eventually, but first soul knowing.
• 14:27
  Matt: Yes, know biblically.
• 14:29
  Matt: Know the soul, then know the genitals, know them biblically accurately, then know them biblically.
• 14:37
  Matt: So, yes.
• 14:38
  Matt: So the idea is you're gonna answer, ask and answer authentically, honestly, these 36 questions.
• 14:44
  Matt: Yep.
• 14:44
  Matt: And then at the end of it, and this this part we can't really do through this medium.
• 14:51
  Matt: Stare each other directly in the eyes for four uninterrupted minutes.
• 14:56
  Matt: And at the end of that, at the end of the questions, and at the end of the four minutes, baby, you're in love now.
• 15:02
  Matt: You're in love.
• 15:04
  Eric: So me and Matt thought, I mean, yeah, let's fall in love again.
• 15:08
  Matt: Again and again and again.
• 15:10
  Eric: And again, again.
• 15:10
  Matt: That's what it's all about.
• 15:12
  Matt: Well, it's been 150 episodes.
• 15:13
  Matt: I think it's time we see if there's something here.
• 15:16
  Matt: You know, we should we should see.
• 15:17
  Eric: It's been a lot of will they won't they?
• 15:19
  Eric: Let's see if there's something to this.
• 15:22
  Eric: To the fan theories on the wiki, to the fan theories on the Discord, anyway.
• 15:26
  Matt: The fan theories where is our wiki fans?
• 15:29
  Matt: I ask you, where's our fandom?
• 15:31
  Eric: God, someone's gonna just like fucking slap dash the most.
• 15:35
  Eric: No, no, no.
• 15:37
  Eric: If you're gonna do it, do it right, folks.
• 15:39
  Eric: I I like a little slapdashery in my wiki.
• 15:42
  Eric: I like when I can see the fingerprints in the oil painting that is fandom.com.
• 15:48
  Eric: Well, yeah, in fandom.com you can see the fingerprints.
• 15:51
  Matt: In actual, as a former uh one-time uh pursuer of being a Wikipedia administrator, uh you shouldn't be able to see the fingerprints in the main in the flagship.
• 16:04
  Eric: Not in the flagship.
• 16:05
  Eric: Not in the fl not the flagship.
• 16:06
  Eric: This this is giving big it's like at the you know, at the end of the game, the king and the pawn both go back into the same box.
• 16:14
  Eric: This that this whole thing is giving like, hey, you know, Wikipedia, at the end of the day, we both end in wiki.
• 16:20
  Eric: A little bit of that.
• 16:22
  Matt: It's a little bit of that.
• 16:23
  Matt: Um, are you suggesting one of us is the king and one of us is the pawn?
• 16:27
  Matt: Because Eric, you're the knight.
• 16:29
  Eric: Oh and you are 1000% a rook.
• 16:33
  Eric: You think?
• 16:34
  Eric: You know what you're I'll be honest, I was hoping for bishop.
• 16:37
  Eric: Uh-oh, sliding into my DMs like a bishop.
• 16:41
  Eric: Let me just slide on that on it.
• 16:44
  Eric: Oh, what's up?
• 16:44
  Eric: It's me, the bishop.
• 16:46
  Eric: The personification of the bishop being like, excuse me, I'm just gonna slide right.
• 16:50
  Eric: It's you're you're at Sunday Mass and you're late.
• 16:54
  Eric: So you're just like, oh, I'm just gonna let me just skadoodle on my don't mind me.
• 16:59
  Eric: Whereas the rook just barges through the front door.
• 17:03
  Eric: Bam!
• 17:04
  Matt: Gimme!
• 17:04
  Eric: I want this now.
• 17:06
  Matt: Gimme, you know what I'm gonna do.
• 17:08
  Matt: Uh, let's fall in love, Matt.
• 17:13
  Matt: Let's fall in love.
• 17:14
  Matt: And so, before the audience gets uh, you know, odd, we understand this is probably gonna take uh more than the allotted time.
• 17:24
  Matt: 36 questions, dog.
• 17:26
  Matt: I mean, come on.
• 17:27
  Matt: We don't want to shortchange anything.
• 17:28
  Matt: So this is probably going to be episode 150 and episode 151, baby.
• 17:35
  Matt: We're gonna come on back.
• 17:37
  Matt: It's gonna be a two-parter.
• 17:38
  Matt: It's gonna be a two-parter, I think.
• 17:40
  Matt: But uh, so there are three sets of questions.
• 17:43
  Matt: I think we're gonna pop pop it off right in the middle of the second one, uh, question 18 or so.
• 17:48
  Eric: Yeah.
• 17:49
  Matt: Do the second set next time, and by the end of that, baby, not only are we gonna be in love, I think, I think the the the fans, they're gonna be in love with us as well.
• 18:00
  Matt: God willing.
• 18:02
  Eric: Eric.
• 18:02
  Eric: Yes.
• 18:03
  Eric: Should we jump in?
• 18:05
  Eric: Oh, let's let's jump right the fuck in, Matt.
• 18:08
  Eric: Question one.
• 18:09
  Eric: I'm a little nervous.
• 18:10
  Eric: Me too.
• 18:12
  Eric: Given the choice of anyone in the world, whom would you want as a dinner guest?
• 18:23
  Eric: I love this question.
• 18:24
  Eric: I was reading them earlier.
• 18:25
  Eric: There's a couple I'm like, ooh, can't wait to get that.
• 18:27
  Matt: Uh I am sort of doing the the drop three method of like the first person to come to mind is Samuel Beckett.
• 18:34
  Matt: Yeah, the second person to come to mind is Michael J.
• 18:38
  Matt: Fox.
• 18:38
  Matt: Yeah, yep, yep, yep.
• 18:40
  Matt: And but I I mean, don't get me wrong, both would be both would be incredible dinner guests.
• 18:47
  Matt: Um I I also think I would love an actual uh like full dinner experience with Conan O'Brien.
• 18:58
  Matt: Oh, that's a good one.
• 19:01
  Matt: Because not only do am I honest, you know, I've listened to every episode of Conan O'Brien, he's a friend, even the fan ones.
• 19:09
  Matt: But the like I love Conan, I always have loved Conan since since I was a wee boy, but I also through the years have learned that I think he beyond having a great time bit wise, yeah.
• 19:23
  Matt: Not only do I think we're bit compatible.
• 19:25
  Matt: Oh, the BPMs would be off the chart.
• 19:28
  Matt: Yeah.
• 19:28
  Matt: Yeah.
• 19:29
  Matt: I think like he's this, you know, he's a big history buff.
• 19:33
  Matt: I'm a big history buff.
• 19:35
  Matt: Like, I think I think we I think we would have a good, honest conversation if we can get to it.
• 19:42
  Matt: You know, if we if we can saw our way through the bits.
• 19:47
  Eric: Yes, yes.
• 19:48
  Matt: I think we could have an actual great conversation.
• 19:51
  Matt: But that you know that those the the those are the names that come to mind.
• 19:55
  Eric: I have all very good answers.
• 19:57
  Eric: Eric, I demand to know.
• 19:58
  Eric: I there similar fashion, there are a couple that popped into my head immediately.
• 20:03
  Eric: Um Mr.
• 20:04
  Eric: Rogers.
• 20:05
  Eric: Oh, very good.
• 20:06
  Eric: Uh Douglas Adams is a is a big nice for most of my life.
• 20:12
  Eric: I would have said Neil Guiman, but well, sure.
• 20:15
  Eric: But fuck that.
• 20:17
  Eric: Yeah, no.
• 20:18
  Eric: Uh no, but this led me to this is I I I had I was like, oh fucking yes.
• 20:25
  Eric: Because especially like as a dinner guest, that means I'm going to be cooking for him.
• 20:30
  Eric: Professor J.R.R.
• 20:31
  Eric: Tolkien.
• 20:32
  Eric: Oh, sure.
• 20:32
  Eric: I would be, oh my god.
• 20:35
  Eric: I are you talking about the things that meant I would I would just shut the fuck up.
• 20:38
  Eric: I would I would make him food, I would serve it, I'd just shut the fuck up and be like, just talk.
• 20:42
  Eric: Just talk anything.
• 20:44
  Eric: Tell me every fucking story that no one is everyone is sick of you tell.
• 20:49
  Eric: Apparently, J.R.R.
• 20:51
  Eric: Tolkien was miserable to go on walks with because he would stop at every single tree and just kind of look at it for 20 minutes.
• 20:59
  Matt: I mean, that's pretty evident given his body of work.
• 21:03
  Eric: Yes.
• 21:03
  Eric: Uh, and and when I heard this, I was like, that sounds like the perfect walk.
• 21:09
  Matt: That sounds like being able to just like stop and like look at the um like look at a tree with him in silence.
• 21:18
  Matt: Yes.
• 21:18
  Matt: Oh my god.
• 21:19
  Matt: I would I mean I can see that.
• 21:20
  Matt: I would like to see that for a little bit.
• 21:22
  Matt: I think after a while I'm like, it's the same tree, Jay.
• 21:26
  Matt: J double ah, it's the same tree.
• 21:28
  Matt: You know, I mean I know everything's a perfect, uh, unique snowflake here, but uh it's still an elm.
• 21:35
  Matt: Here's what I'd do.
• 21:36
  Eric: I just play the Howard the Howard Shore uh score to the movies while we're walking.
• 21:41
  Eric: Oh, I'm sure he'd love that.
• 21:43
  Eric: Oh yeah.
• 21:44
  Eric: I'm a firm no, I th I think I'm a firm believer that J.R.
• 21:48
  Eric: Tolkien would hate the Lord of the Rings movies.
• 21:51
  Eric: Oh, really?
• 21:52
  Eric: Absolutely despise.
• 21:53
  Matt: That's an interesting thing.
• 21:54
  Eric: And and uh oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 21:56
  Eric: We can talk about uh about that more later.
• 21:58
  Eric: That does feel like a whole tangent.
• 21:59
  Eric: The short version is it's because the they're war movies.
• 22:03
  Eric: And that is The Lord of the Rings is not like a war story.
• 22:08
  Eric: Pretty pretty heavy war.
• 22:10
  Eric: There are wars occurring, but there is the story itself, like the the the fucking main drive and like the core of what it is is not a story about like, and then they won this fight.
• 22:22
  Eric: It's it's about so many other things.
• 22:24
  Eric: But sore on apologist here, Eric Rose.
• 22:27
  Eric: But suffice it, I don't think he would I aesthetically, I think he would dig it a lot.
• 22:34
  Eric: Um, but musically, I think he would.
• 22:36
  Eric: What do you think he'd think about the phrase looks like meat's back on the menu, boys?
• 22:41
  Eric: He would be furious.
• 22:43
  Eric: He would he he would be absolutely furious.
• 22:47
  Matt: Oh, yeah.
• 22:47
  Matt: Uh that's question one.
• 22:49
  Matt: Uh that is question one.
• 22:51
  Matt: Question two.
• 22:52
  Matt: Uh, and this is is kind of funny to answer in this particular fashion.
• 22:57
  Matt: Yes.
• 22:57
  Matt: Would you like to be famous?
• 22:59
  Matt: And in what way?
• 23:00
  Matt: Can I start us off with no?
• 23:04
  Eric: Interesting.
• 23:04
  Eric: Yeah, there was so so that's why we haven't taken off.
• 23:08
  Eric: No, um, here's here's the thing.
• 23:14
  Eric: Uh when I let me specify, I don't I don't mind fame or in or or or or stuff like like notoriety for like like being well known for something.
• 23:24
  Eric: But as time has gone on, when I was in college, I was obsessed with the idea of being famous.
• 23:30
  Eric: I was obsessed like I was like, I want to be a famous actor, I have to be like, like, like so much of like everything I did like was like it serves this purpose because like I wanna be, I want to be famous.
• 23:41
  Eric: I'm gonna be famous.
• 23:43
  Eric: And then as time went on and the internet grew, and I just learned more and more about like there was like a big disillusionment with like as as like social media and stuff grew.
• 23:55
  Eric: I just came to realize, like, man, I really don't ever want to be as famous as I thought I did.
• 24:01
  Eric: Yeah.
• 24:01
  Eric: Like I I don't like I wanna, I want the level of fame I aspire to is like I might be like going about my day, days, weeks, months, and then just randomly someone's like, holy shit, it's poach from the podcast.
• 24:16
  Eric: That would be perfect, yes.
• 24:17
  Eric: That would be the perfect amount of fame where you're like, Oh, thank you for listening to my thing, and that's my life.
• 24:23
  Eric: Like that could just like if that happened once a month, I'd be, I'd be, I'd be fucking over the moon.
• 24:31
  Matt: Yeah, I think uh I think I'm in a similar but not quite as severe boat as you.
• 24:38
  Matt: Yeah.
• 24:39
  Matt: In that I I think when I showed up as a freshman in college, I was like, oh yeah, I'm here to learn what I need to to then become a famous actor.
• 24:49
  Matt: Yes.
• 24:49
  Matt: You know, I still feel like to a certain degree I'm chasing that, but what has the shift has been is the in terms of level of fame, I don't quite care so much.
• 25:01
  Matt: What I care about is being a respected actor.
• 25:04
  Eric: Ooh, I like that.
• 25:06
  Eric: Like I I don't because what I like you're the guy when they're like, oh, you want Matt Shay.
• 25:12
  Eric: Like, like, like or like because like like the people who know you are like note like they the they know you as being a respectable actor.
• 25:23
  Matt: And like I I think part of it is like and as I as my career's gone on, I've I've sort of accepted that I'm not even accepted, but embraced that where I really thrive is as a character actor.
• 25:39
  Eric: Hell yes.
• 25:39
  Eric: And oh yeah, yeah, dog.
• 25:42
  Matt: And so like recently, Steven Rood has been getting a lot of uh attention recently for Widows Bay, which by the way, you have got to fucking watch Widows Bay.
• 25:54
  Matt: Okay, for Widow's Bay and Um, you know, for Barry before that, and you know, various things.
• 26:01
  Matt: But he's been, you know, he's been around forever.
• 26:04
  Matt: And um, you know, he's just now sort of getting awards and these types of things.
• 26:09
  Matt: And like when he won the Emmy last week, I was I I felt like proud of Steven Root because I was like, wow, we're a we're a long way from office space.
• 26:19
  Matt: And Lindsay went, is he Milton?
• 26:22
  Matt: And I went, Yeah, he's fucking Milton.
• 26:26
  Matt: And I was like, You didn't know that?
• 26:28
  Matt: And she was like, No, I I knew him from Barry, and I was like, Yeah, yeah, he's been around and he's been in all these things, and and he's fucking phenomenal in everything he's in, yeah.
• 26:40
  Matt: But like he's just as like Milton, he's great as Milton because Milton's this ridiculous character, yeah.
• 26:47
  Matt: And like he's playing in Widows Bay, he plays sort of like the uh like the quint-esque character of like so it's on this small New England I uh island is Widows Bay, and he's sort of the like I guess if you wanted to archetype type him, he's like the town kook.
• 27:10
  Matt: Yeah, okay.
• 27:10
  Matt: Like, but like but he but he's not, and like that's because of how he's playing.
• 27:15
  Matt: Like if he played it as just like I'm the crazy guy who believes in mystical things, like it'd be like uh it wouldn't be as special as like the character actually is, because he's like, I do believe in those things, but like he's he's I have a life.
• 27:33
  Eric: He's so respectable because like he's just that that that kind of that breed of actor where you watch him and you're like you put your whole ass into this every time a single fucking time.
• 27:43
  Matt: But I mean I could go on and on, like a like a Paul Giamatti or a William H.
• 27:48
  Matt: Macy, like that's the level of fame that I would want because I don't think there is all that many paparazzi outside Willem Defoe's house.
• 27:58
  Eric: Yeah, you know, I feel like I feel like they they leave him relatively alone.
• 28:02
  Eric: Feel free to correct us if we're wrong.
• 28:03
  Eric: Shoot a message to Lindsay.
• 28:05
  Matt: There's paparazzi photos of everybody, but like the but like I don't think he's getting the Bradgelina treatment.
• 28:14
  Eric: Do you know what I realize?
• 28:15
  Eric: Here's the here's the flavor famous I want to be.
• 28:18
  Eric: I want to be like uh I I wanna I love the the status of like local legend.
• 28:25
  Eric: Yeah, in like the old sense.
• 28:28
  Eric: Like, I want to be your favorite storyteller's favorite storyteller.
• 28:31
  Eric: I want I want to be like the they're like, I heard this from Poach.
• 28:36
  Eric: Like, I want to be someone that people hear about, but like you're never gonna read about them in the news.
• 28:41
  Eric: You're never gonna be like you're just like, oh yeah, go up on the mountain, find old man poach, get him to tell you a tale.
• 28:48
  Matt: Yeah, like I did I would love that.
• 28:50
  Matt: And we had a long-standing joke for a while where we would talk about being like old philosophers in a in a Barnes and Noble cafe.
• 28:58
  Matt: Yeah, like the you'd approach us and we could answer questions and bicker.
• 29:02
  Matt: But like the and I'd still love that by the way.
• 29:05
  Matt: Oh yeah, I I forgot about that.
• 29:08
  Matt: Yeah, baby.
• 29:08
  Matt: That dream can still happen.
• 29:11
  Matt: That dream can st we can still make that take place.
• 29:14
  Matt: But uh I think like I remember when we did McBee, um in we took it to the KCACTF uh festival, Kennedy Center, American College Theory Festival in uh RIP, uh Kennedy Center.
• 29:31
  Matt: Uh but um in uh we took it on the road.
• 29:36
  Matt: It was at the Indiana University of Pennsylvania, and we took our production there and we did it, and then after we did well, like it's one night only.
• 29:45
  Matt: Every show there is just like it's a collection of the the best college theater in the the region is the idea.
• 29:52
  Matt: And so like all the you know, the different regions have their different festivals, and so like so it's so it's not a run, it's literally like we're remounting the show for one one performance, one night only, one performance, and we uh we we did it.
• 30:06
  Matt: It was a huge fucking theater.
• 30:08
  Matt: It was the biggest house I've I've I've ever played to.
• 30:12
  Matt: Um, and it was it was something, it was something else.
• 30:17
  Matt: It was very special.
• 30:18
  Matt: And then like the next day, we were in the dining hall there, like we were getting like food, and people came up to us and were like, Oh my gosh, were you guys in McBee from town?
• 30:31
  Matt: And like, I don't know if you remember this.
• 30:33
  Matt: The weekend, but I I fucking we were celebrities for a weekend, and it was pretty fucking dope.
• 30:40
  Matt: It was pretty fucking dope, and like that's sort of what I want.
• 30:44
  Matt: Like, like I want the like I and it's happened, there's been other times.
• 30:48
  Matt: Like, I did a show a couple years ago, uh when when I did the 39 steps, I like went and got um coffee afterwards at uh the coffee shop, like right down the street from the theater.
• 30:59
  Matt: And like I didn't even think about it, but of course, people who went to the show also went to get coffee from this thing.
• 31:06
  Matt: So there was somebody who was like, weren't you just in the show?
• 31:08
  Matt: And I was like, Oh, yeah, yeah, I was what a good thing.
• 31:11
  Matt: And like them being like, We, you know, we're we're chatting and them them talking about like how much they liked it and blah blah blah.
• 31:18
  Matt: If they didn't like it, they wouldn't have said anything, you know, they would have been like, Oh, that's the guy from the show.
• 31:22
  Matt: But like that sort of thing makes me now, as opposed to like as opposed to being like, do you want an autograph?
• 31:32
  Matt: It makes like it it's that level of fame that makes me go, like, oh, I did something that affected you.
• 31:39
  Eric: Yeah, yeah, we did.
• 31:40
  Eric: That's that's where I was like, you just got done.
• 31:42
  Matt: You laughed or you felt something.
• 31:45
  Eric: We fucking did it.
• 31:46
  Matt: We did the thing.
• 31:47
  Matt: We did the thing.
• 31:48
  Matt: And like it's just uh it's we nailed it.
• 31:50
  Matt: We it's just like a little reminder of like, oh yeah, that's what I'm what I'm really doing is uh being a storyteller.
• 31:57
  Eric: Yes.
• 31:57
  Matt: And you and my and the story resonated with you.
• 32:00
  Eric: We told the story.
• 32:01
  Eric: Like that, that that is if anyone ever asks me, like, well, why like what do we get out of acting?
• 32:06
  Eric: Like, it's not an attention thing.
• 32:08
  Eric: It's like a at least not for me.
• 32:10
  Eric: Like, it's it's like it's it's because I joke, I was like, oh, I majored in getting attention.
• 32:14
  Eric: But like, no, it's like what I majored in was storytelling.
• 32:16
  Eric: What I majored in is it was like telling a good story, like creating that raw connection with people of like sharing that together and like oh, nothing like it.
• 32:28
  Matt: Sometimes I throw in a I majored in rolling around on the floor.
• 32:31
  Matt: Um, yeah.
• 32:35
  Matt: Well, man, it's gonna be a four-parter if we don't see it.
• 32:40
  Eric: No, but we should do more questions.
• 32:42
  Matt: Question three.
• 32:43
  Matt: Give us three.
• 32:44
  Matt: I like that we've fallen into you're asking the odds, I'm asking the evens.
• 32:48
  Eric: What are we what else do we do, baby?
• 32:51
  Eric: Before making a telephone call, do you ever rehearse what you're going to say?
• 32:57
  Matt: Why uh depends on the call, but yes, definitely.
• 33:01
  Eric: Yeah, yes.
• 33:02
  Eric: I I will not pick up that phone until I know exactly what I'm going to say and and how I'm going to say it.
• 33:08
  Eric: Oh, that's interesting.
• 33:10
  Eric: Like, even Well no, no, no, no, sorry.
• 33:12
  Eric: If it's like ringing, I'll answer it.
• 33:14
  Eric: But like, no, what I mean is I'm not gonna go, I'm not gonna like pick up the phone to call someone before I let like it now.
• 33:20
  Eric: If it's like I'm I'm just calling like someone to ask for like someone I'm I'm very like for like one of my closest friends, or if it's like a listener, it's like I know I don't have to think when I speak to them.
• 33:29
  Eric: I'm like the like this is effortless as breathing.
• 33:32
  Eric: But if like I'm calling like someone I haven't spoken to in a long time, or if I'm calling to make an appointment, I'm like, I'm like, I have to go through like the all right, here's stick to the that was gonna be my example.
• 33:44
  Matt: Like, okay, you're calling to make a doctor's appointment.
• 33:47
  Eric: Yeah.
• 33:47
  Matt: You are you scripting that in the sense like I script it and rehearse it in the sense that I'm like, okay, these are the things I want to say.
• 33:56
  Matt: Yes.
• 33:57
  Matt: Like, this is what I want to communicate.
• 33:59
  Matt: Because if I don't do that, I'm gonna forget.
• 34:01
  Matt: Like, uh, I don't want to just ramble about my symptoms.
• 34:05
  Matt: I want to be like, this is what I'm experiencing.
• 34:08
  Matt: This is why I need an appointment.
• 34:09
  Eric: Yes.
• 34:10
  Eric: There, there's also the constant thread of, and this is like, I I I I try to think before I speak.
• 34:18
  Eric: I try to like, I or if like if I'm rehearsing something in my head, it's because Is that new?
• 34:22
  Eric: No, no.
• 34:25
  Eric: Come on, we're having fun here.
• 34:28
  Eric: I'm just falling in love.
• 34:32
  Eric: Let's become falling in love.
• 34:36
  Eric: Anyway, go ahead, Eric.
• 34:37
  Eric: You were um you were being very earnest.
• 34:40
  Eric: There is a there is a there's just this little there's this little bird inside of me that that is that is whispering in my ear and it's going, oh, make sure they all know that you're not upset with them, and nobody's angry, and no, and just make it abundantly clear that everything is okay.
• 34:58
  Eric: Don't hurt this person's feelings, don't say anything that might upset them.
• 35:04
  Eric: Don't just everything's fine.
• 35:07
  Eric: And and I need to I need to know that what I'm going to say will result in everything is still okay.
• 35:14
  Eric: I get that.
• 35:15
  Eric: I I panic if I feel like I'm making someone else panic or if I make or if I'm stressing them out.
• 35:21
  Eric: So I'm just like there there's like a huge layer of that in into how I I I answer a phone call or prepare a text or email.
• 35:29
  Eric: God, it's at work.
• 35:30
  Eric: I'm like exclamation points like I need to put these here so you know that I am not mad.
• 35:36
  Eric: Oh, really?
• 35:36
  Eric: Sending a lot of emails on the on down on the farm, are you?
• 35:39
  Eric: Not anymore, and it's fucking dope.
• 35:42
  Matt: I bet.
• 35:42
  Matt: I will say, like, your your farmer journey is like the uh it really does sound refreshing.
• 35:50
  Eric: It does so in all honesty.
• 35:52
  Eric: It it it ha that it has been.
• 35:55
  Eric: It's been goddamn hard work, but for my mental health, it has just been a spa.
• 36:00
  Matt: It has been oh you're you're I've told you this uh both off mic on god and on mic on god, I believe, that you are you're demonstrably happier than you are yeah, it's fucking sick.
• 36:13
  Eric: It's eviden it's evident.
• 36:15
  Eric: I I the number of people who have been telling me that is is very noticeable.
• 36:22
  Matt: Uh what would you constitute a quote perfect day for you?
• 36:29
  Eric: Ooh, what would constitute a perfect day for me?
• 36:32
  Eric: Yes.
• 36:32
  Eric: Um I'm outside in some like like that, like every and I'm approaching this from when I think about the perfect days I've had, or like, because there's there are days I've had where like perfectly I'm outside, I'm walking, I'm like moving.
• 36:47
  Eric: That is like the two critic, like I can do like a picnic, I can do like a part, like a city, but it one spot all day.
• 36:57
  Eric: Nah, I gotta be, I gotta be on the move.
• 36:59
  Eric: So, like perfect day for me.
• 37:00
  Eric: I am outside, I am walking, I am holding Alyssa's hand.
• 37:05
  Eric: That is my perfect day.
• 37:06
  Eric: And we're just and and that is because so many of my perfect days have that common thread, those three things.
• 37:13
  Eric: I'm outside, I'm moving, and I'm with Alyssa.
• 37:16
  Matt: Yes, very nice.
• 37:18
  Matt: I feel like my perfect day is very like in flux right now because, like, you know, I've gone through a little bit of a change over the last say third of a year.
• 37:28
  Matt: So, like, obviously, um having having a solid chunk of those 24 hours be just hanging out with Lindsay and my son and not having like work interfere and like do we're doing whatever like yeah, even over the weekend, like just this past weekend, we we went to uh take a spin around um a Barnes and Noble, which we then discovered, oh god, it fills me with such warmth.
• 37:59
  Matt: It's not it hasn't been renovated, Eric.
• 38:02
  Matt: It's the old, old world Barnes and Noble, old growth.
• 38:06
  Matt: Oh, yeah.
• 38:07
  Matt: Got the old growth art.
• 38:10
  Matt: You got the author illustrations above the cafe.
• 38:14
  Matt: You've got the full kids section with the with the wooden characters everywhere.
• 38:18
  Matt: You uh you've got the music department, the like the it's the kind that not only did I work in, but it's the kind that I like I grew in the town I grew up in, I went to Barnes and Noble to hang out.
• 38:34
  Eric: This has to be lighting up your brain like a Christmas tree every time you step in.
• 38:38
  Matt: When I stepped, we didn't know, we just went to a different one than the one there's one like down the street, which has been sanitized and corporatized, but this one's still untouched, and it was it was delightful.
• 38:53
  Matt: And like being able to walk around surrounded by books, I got my baby, and I got my babe, and I got my pumpkin spice latte, and I had a it sounds perfect, it was a great day, but I will also say that if the day's going to be perfect, I need a little carve-out chunk of like a couple of hours to adjust myself, to just be like to do whatever whim takes me.
• 39:23
  Matt: If I want to read them to my perfect day, if I want to read in a chair by myself for like an hour and a half, great.
• 39:30
  Matt: If I want to like play video games for an hour and a half, great.
• 39:33
  Matt: Like some you have nothing time.
• 39:36
  Matt: I have nothing time and nobody time.
• 39:39
  Eric: Yeah.
• 39:39
  Eric: It is it is critical to my function as a human being.
• 39:43
  Eric: And and so much of it is is so much of like the past like 10 years for me has been learning how to properly communicate to the people I love that I'm like, I love you, I cherish you.
• 39:57
  Eric: You are my everything.
• 39:58
  Eric: Without you, I would be nothing.
• 39:59
  Eric: Now get the fuck out.
• 40:01
  Eric: Now I need my alone time.
• 40:02
  Matt: Uh like like I I think I'm right there with you because I think, and we have bonded over this.
• 40:10
  Matt: I spent a great deal of time from like middle school on hanging out in my room with my imagination.
• 40:21
  Matt: My imagination, my books, my books, and uh and eventually a computer.
• 40:26
  Matt: And and like so, I think that's still like hardwired into me.
• 40:31
  Matt: It's why when if I'm doing a show in Virginia and I take an hour commute to get home, and I'm getting home after a show, it's 11:30 or whatever, I got work in the morning, I still can't go to bed.
• 40:44
  Eric: Like I have to do Oh, yeah, I have to have nothing time.
• 40:48
  Matt: I have to do something that makes it makes it feel like it's just me and I'm doing this for me.
• 40:54
  Matt: Even if it is like I'm gonna scroll on my phone in my office, I will lose sleep for this.
• 41:00
  Matt: I will lose feet sleep for this because this is as important as sleep.
• 41:05
  Eric: Yeah.
• 41:05
  Eric: This the you're like I'm sorry, I'm not even at the wheel when these decisions are being made.
• 41:11
  Eric: That's like my fucking hippocampus or some shit.
• 41:13
  Eric: That's my reptile brain.
• 41:15
  Eric: Very good at it.
• 41:15
  Eric: That just going like, no, you must retreat.
• 41:18
  Eric: One of the one of them amygdalas is in charge.
• 41:22
  Matt: One of them.
• 41:22
  Matt: One of them glottas.
• 41:24
  Matt: The the pituitary gland.
• 41:27
  Eric: Whatever the fuck it's called.
• 41:28
  Matt: You know the ones.
• 41:29
  Eric: You know.
• 41:30
  Matt: I narrated a book about the brain.
• 41:31
  Matt: I really should have more parts at the ready.
• 41:33
  Matt: And yet I don't.
• 41:35
  Matt: Let that be a lesson to you about your audiobook narrators.
• 41:41
  Eric: Uh should we move on?
• 41:42
  Eric: Yes.
• 41:43
  Eric: Okay.
• 41:43
  Eric: When did you last sing to yourself or to someone else?
• 41:48
  Eric: Now, this is and end to someone else.
• 41:51
  Matt: This is it's a two-parter.
• 41:53
  Matt: And it's also a bit of a cop-out for me.
• 41:55
  Matt: Because uh because literally an hour and a half ago uh when we were putting him to bed was the last time I sang to somebody.
• 42:07
  Matt: Last time I sang to myself.
• 42:09
  Eric: Not counting your kid.
• 42:10
  Matt: Not counting my kid, like, well, that'd be singing to somebody else.
• 42:13
  Matt: Singing literally to myself, I mean, it happens a lot.
• 42:19
  Matt: Yeah, and to and we've talked about this.
• 42:21
  Matt: I I constantly talk to myself.
• 42:25
  Matt: Like, if you planted a microphone in this home when Lindsay was not here, nobody's here, I literally nobody's here, just me, it will be full of content.
• 42:37
  Matt: Like, I will I will be you your boy be talking.
• 42:42
  Eric: Yeah.
• 42:44
  Matt: Hard, hard saying.
• 42:45
  Matt: And also, I've oh, and I've done it as long as I can remember.
• 42:48
  Matt: When I'm truly when I'm truly talking to myself, I it's like I split.
• 42:55
  Matt: It's like I'm in a house of mirrors and I'm like, listen, you, and like I I can address another me.
• 43:01
  Eric: Yes.
• 43:02
  Matt: But like if something ridiculous happens to me, like let's say I do something, I don't know, stupid while driving or something.
• 43:08
  Matt: Yeah, I will turn to the side as if there's another person there.
• 43:13
  Eric: Like, what were you thinking?
• 43:14
  Eric: Yes, yeah, I will turn to the fucking fourth wall.
• 43:17
  Eric: Like, I will fucking it it is it is I'll fucking I will invent characters, I'll invent entire mythoses.
• 43:25
  Eric: I yeah, fucking yeah, and singing is often part of that.
• 43:29
  Matt: Yeah, I'm constantly making up little tunes, I'm constantly just like singing random bullshit stuff.
• 43:35
  Matt: But like, I guess the last time I sang very purposefully was like in the car, like a few days ago where I was driving to do something.
• 43:42
  Matt: Yeah.
• 43:43
  Matt: And it it was that I'll say this, Eric.
• 43:46
  Matt: When you have a a newborn going on to just regular babyslash toddler, there it there is something nice about running errands that becomes like I'm just gonna like crank the nope.
• 43:59
  Matt: Podcast.
• 44:00
  Matt: I'm cranking music.
• 44:02
  Eric: Oh, yeah.
• 44:02
  Matt: And I'm singing to it with the windows down.
• 44:06
  Eric: Like today I had to drive to Glen Burney to go to my parents' house just to pick up three pounds of wings because my dad texted me and was like, hey, relatively close.
• 44:16
  Eric: Could I stop by?
• 44:17
  Eric: You know, these extra wings in the tip from the tailgate.
• 44:20
  Eric: We have no room in our freezer.
• 44:22
  Eric: You're gonna come take them.
• 44:23
  Eric: And I was like, okay.
• 44:25
  Eric: And and it was literally just I knew this morning at some point I was gonna have to get up, I was gonna have coffee, and then I was just gonna drive to Glen Bernie, get drive a half hour, throw a cool.
• 44:34
  Eric: Yep.
• 44:36
  Eric: Yep.
• 44:37
  Eric: And then and then just drive back.
• 44:41
  Eric: And that I was so excited for it.
• 44:44
  Eric: Because I was like, ooh, sure, like alone car time.
• 44:46
  Eric: I'm not going to work.
• 44:48
  Eric: I'm not like like I'm just like, ooh, drive's like, I'm just gonna fucking listen to music.
• 44:52
  Eric: Yeah, this I love this.
• 44:54
  Matt: So like that was that was probably the last time I very I was like, I I am making a conscious decision to sing.
• 45:00
  Matt: What what'd you sing?
• 45:01
  Matt: Oh, uh a bunch of Noah Khan, Bruce Springsteen, you know, maybe a little Billy Joel.
• 45:09
  Matt: I can't remember the whole playlist now.
• 45:11
  Eric: I was driving around for a low of an hour or two.
• 45:14
  Eric: I've I've I I go through sort of metas with my with my with my singing to myself.
• 45:19
  Eric: I I I could tell you the the the last time I sang with like to myself was uh earlier today because I had to like go walk out into the we have a big ass backyard to go check on the the like the progress of our of our crops that we got growing back there.
• 45:37
  Eric: And and I I I sang to myself there's a song I've been saying, I there I I when I'm by myself, I will and I'm singing to myself for my own enjoyment.
• 45:48
  Eric: Yeah, I'm singing like old, old, old shanties and folk songs because like I worked at a fucking Ren fair for years.
• 45:55
  Eric: I I I've listened I'm a fucking dork.
• 45:57
  Eric: It's I listen I I listen to so much sea shanty and folk songs.
• 46:02
  Eric: So I'll just be like out there by and if I'm by myself and I'm like in a big space, I'll sing what when there are there are times when I'm out in the middle of like a field by myself at the farm, and I'll just start fucking singing shanties while I'm harvesting vegetables.
• 46:16
  Eric: It's a cool ass feeling.
• 46:17
  Eric: Vegetable shanties, yeah.
• 46:19
  Eric: Vegetable shanties.
• 46:20
  Eric: Uh, and and and the been been singing a lot of the weary wailing ground.
• 46:25
  Eric: It it's a very sorrowful shanty.
• 46:27
  Eric: It's got like weary wailing ground.
• 46:30
  Eric: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:31
  Eric: It it it's it's a it's a haunting tune, Matt.
• 46:35
  Matt: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:36
  Matt: Eric's gonna record a little vocals of that, and we're gonna play at the end of the episode.
• 46:40
  Matt: How about that?
• 46:41
  Eric: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:41
  Eric: I'll hit you with it.
• 46:43
  Matt: I'll hit you with the opening at the end.
• 46:44
  Matt: Oh, yeah, I believe you'll remember it.
• 46:47
  Matt: Now, uh yeah.
• 46:48
  Matt: Uh so number six, question number six.
• 46:51
  Matt: If you were able to live to the age of ninety and retain either the mind or body of a 30-year-old for the last sixty years of your life, which would you want?
• 47:08
  Matt: Let's just go over it again.
• 47:10
  Eric: Because this one, if you got lost, so did I.
• 47:13
  Eric: I am 90.
• 47:14
  Eric: Did I keep the 30-year-old body or the 30-year-old brain into my old age?
• 47:19
  Eric: No.
• 47:20
  Eric: Oh, or yes.
• 47:21
  Eric: Yeah.
• 47:22
  Eric: Yeah, actually, you nailed it.
• 47:23
  Eric: I was confused.
• 47:25
  Eric: I was like, I sometimes I just know.
• 47:27
  Eric: I just feel like, no, I'll give it one more second.
• 47:29
  Matt: There it is.
• 47:30
  Matt: Perhaps, perhaps I should go with mine then.
• 47:33
  Matt: Uh no, I I do think body.
• 47:36
  Matt: I think I would say body because like body 100%.
• 47:39
  Matt: Because I do think like uh, you know, there are certain things that are starting to go downhill.
• 47:47
  Matt: Uh and so there's um there is already sort of a morning of like uh, you know, thinking about the things I could do when I was not even 30, but like, you know, 21, 25.
• 48:02
  Matt: And uh so I think that because like people expect your mind to go.
• 48:08
  Matt: Yeah.
• 48:08
  Matt: Honestly, the people want it.
• 48:11
  Matt: The people want your mind to go.
• 48:14
  Matt: They want you to slip slowly into madness.
• 48:16
  Eric: No one wants a completely lucid grandpa, you know?
• 48:20
  Eric: No, and that and that is also part of my answer, bro.
• 48:23
  Eric: Uh, could you imagine having the sharp, ultimately aware like mind of a 30-year-old into your 90s?
• 48:30
  Eric: That would be hell, because you're a 30-year-old mind trapped in a 90-year-old body.
• 48:36
  Eric: Like, like, like you're you're fully aware, you know how like oh like I I I want to surrender to the oblivion of freedom.
• 48:45
  Eric: I uh God, I I just want to and I want to be healthy doing it.
• 48:49
  Eric: I want to be healthy doing it with a body that the health of body equals health of the mind.
• 48:56
  Eric: Like you you you you take care of yourself, like your body's in good shape, your brain's gonna be in you know good shape, he said with fucking 36 years of anxiety behind him.
• 49:08
  Matt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 49:09
  Matt: Both of us, both of us in that camp, my friend.
• 49:11
  Eric: But I don't wanna I I I I don't wanna yeah, I I I just wanna I I just want it to not hurt when it rains.
• 49:18
  Eric: I wanna not feel every single fucking injury I've ever had when it rains.
• 49:24
  Matt: Nice, nice, yeah.
• 49:26
  Matt: Yeah, I don't get that, I don't get that.
• 49:28
  Matt: I don't get the like, oh my knee, it's gonna rain.
• 49:30
  Matt: I get like a I get like a stuffiness that's like, oh, am I getting sick or is it gonna be overcast tomorrow?
• 49:38
  Eric: Yes.
• 49:40
  Matt: That's that's my version of that.
• 49:42
  Matt: Barometric pressure, my oldest foe.
• 49:44
  Eric: So that's my answer.
• 49:46
  Matt: Oh, very good, very good.
• 49:47
  Matt: So yeah, I know I think we're the same though.
• 49:49
  Matt: I think body because of you know, I think we both answered the question.
• 49:54
  Eric: Now, Matt, let me hit you with this.
• 49:55
  Eric: Tell me.
• 49:56
  Eric: Do you have a secret hunch about how you will die?
• 50:00
  Matt: Whew.
• 50:01
  Matt: That one's a heavy one.
• 50:03
  Matt: Um yeah, there's a couple, there's a couple heavy ones on here.
• 50:06
  Matt: I mean, there's a lot of well, I think there's uh quite an quite a few, but I I think there's a few um worries, like fears about the constant phobias like, hmm, am I having a heart attack or did I just smoke too much weed?
• 50:24
  Matt: Like, yes, exactly.
• 50:25
  Matt: Like, am I having a heart attack, or am I just out of shape and uh expelled some energy?
• 50:32
  Eric: What was that random pain?
• 50:34
  Eric: Yeah, is that cancer?
• 50:36
  Eric: Like this, oh, the number of times my oh, so many times.
• 50:40
  Eric: God, is that cancer?
• 50:41
  Eric: Is it cancer?
• 50:42
  Eric: I know it's like like I'm I'm already imagining myself getting like hearing the diagnosis.
• 50:47
  Matt: I can't uh Dr.
• 50:48
  Matt: Lindsay Arbar would be happy to tell you the amount of times I have looked at her in all seriousness and said, I think it could be a tumor.
• 50:59
  Matt: Like the the amount of times I have said it.
• 51:04
  Matt: Alyssa has said by the way, the amount of times it was zero.
• 51:08
  Eric: Yeah.
• 51:09
  Eric: Yep.
• 51:10
  Eric: Oh yeah.
• 51:11
  Eric: Uh the amount of times Alyssa has, without me even saying anything, has just looked over and saw either the look on my face or my fingers to my neck checking my own pulse.
• 51:26
  Eric: And she's Eric, you're not dying.
• 51:28
  Eric: Yeah, she's like, baby.
• 51:31
  Eric: She's like, look at me.
• 51:32
  Eric: And I look into those big, beautiful fucking eyes, and she is like, You're not dying.
• 51:35
  Eric: I'm like, oh, thank you.
• 51:38
  Matt: And so your hunch is one day she'll be wrong.
• 51:40
  Eric: One day she'll be wrong.
• 51:41
  Eric: No, my death has been foretold.
• 51:42
  Eric: Oh, hello.
• 51:44
  Eric: Uh this is my hunch.
• 51:45
  Eric: My my death has been foretold.
• 51:47
  Eric: Um, I've I've spoken with you about this.
• 51:49
  Eric: I I've I've I've known this since college.
• 51:52
  Eric: Uh, when I was in college, it's might be a little spooky, and I'm trying to think if I've ever brought this up on the show before.
• 51:58
  Eric: I may have.
• 51:59
  Eric: You may have.
• 52:00
  Matt: I can tell I I I currently don't know what you're gonna say, but it's possible you'll jog my memory.
• 52:05
  Eric: When I was in college, two friends of mine who completely separate of one another, who had not seen each other in years, who who just like like had and did not interact in a like they knew each other, but like they that that was it.
• 52:24
  Eric: They knew it like they knew of each other.
• 52:26
  Eric: Both of them within a couple weeks of each other had a dream in which on August 27th of an undisclosed year, I die in a car accident.
• 52:38
  Eric: Jesus Christ.
• 52:40
  Eric: Yeah.
• 52:42
  Matt: And since then, I'm gonna write down August 27th.
• 52:45
  Matt: I better know about this.
• 52:46
  Matt: No, I don't think I don't think I you didn't know about this?
• 52:49
  Matt: No.
• 52:49
  Matt: Oh yeah.
• 52:51
  Eric: Uh and August 27th.
• 52:53
  Eric: And then one of them, like I'm checking poach.
• 52:55
  Eric: Like, and in one of them, the the the fuck, I was like, how did you know it was August 27th?
• 53:00
  Eric: One of them was like, oh, when it happened, like I just knew you were done.
• 53:03
  Eric: And they're like, I remember looking out outside and seeing a giant banner over like this car accident just said August 27th.
• 53:12
  Matt: Eric, Eric, you need to do something for me.
• 53:14
  Matt: Yeah, buddy.
• 53:15
  Matt: And I I say this on behalf of the listeners as well.
• 53:17
  Matt: Yes.
• 53:18
  Matt: For uh August 27th, from here on out, is a holiday for you, my friend.
• 53:25
  Eric: Oh, I've never driven on an August 27th.
• 53:27
  Matt: It's a Xana day for you, my friend.
• 53:29
  Eric: Oh, yeah.
• 53:30
  Eric: I Matt Matt, it is I'm happy, happy to do that because that's what I've been doing since college.
• 53:36
  Eric: Do not leave the home on for any reason.
• 53:40
  Eric: Yeah.
• 53:41
  Eric: There have been very stick to an internal room lest a car come flying through the wit the windows.
• 53:48
  Eric: The the only time I have ever broken this rule is when I was performing on an August 27th.
• 53:53
  Matt: Well, the show must go on.
• 53:54
  Eric: The show must go on.
• 53:56
  Matt: You can't really list it as a conflict.
• 53:58
  Eric: Or if like it was like one year, like towards uh junior or senior year of college, this is shortly, this is just a couple years after the prophecy was revealed.
• 54:06
  Eric: Uh one of my move-in days to move into the dorms was an August 27th.
• 54:12
  Eric: It I know, bro.
• 54:14
  Eric: And and and it's one is I met I've I've told and I've told uh I I a former partner, an ex of mine, still calls me every August 27th.
• 54:25
  Eric: They don't call me, they fucking shoot me a text.
• 54:28
  Eric: But like but like at this at at this at this point in our lives, they just shoot me a text like, hey, did you make it?
• 54:34
  Eric: I'm like, yeah, yeah, no, I'm good.
• 54:36
  Matt: And and they're like, Whoo! I am making myself a Google Calendar event right now, annually, August 27th, check on poach.
• 54:46
  Eric: Alyssa hates it every single time I bring up.
• 54:49
  Eric: She's like, it's not true.
• 54:50
  Eric: It that you cannot say, no, no, no, that that that's not true.
• 54:53
  Eric: But at the same time, she's like, You're not leaving the house today.
• 54:56
  Eric: It's not true.
• 54:57
  Eric: She was like, stop.
• 54:58
  Eric: She she she hates it.
• 55:01
  Eric: Whatever.
• 55:01
  Eric: Okay.
• 55:02
  Eric: But for me, I love it because like I dodge one day and the rest of the year, I'm upset, dog.
• 55:10
  Matt: Alyssa, listen, that's crazy that you of all people would tell him that that's not true.
• 55:16
  Matt: It's not gonna happen.
• 55:17
  Eric: Oh no, and to be clear, this isn't skepticism.
• 55:21
  Eric: This is Eric Poach.
• 55:23
  Eric: Why would you ever tell me this?
• 55:24
  Eric: Sure.
• 55:25
  Eric: Eric Poach, nope, don't say it.
• 55:28
  Eric: She's like, Don't say it, because if you say it, it's true.
• 55:30
  Eric: It's not, don't do, don't give energy to me.
• 55:32
  Eric: It's not true.
• 55:33
  Eric: And also, you're gonna go in this closet.
• 55:36
  Eric: Yeah, she's like, I'm gonna wrap you in bubble wrap and I'm wrap you in blankets, and that's how I die.
• 55:41
  Eric: I smothered by bubble wrap bubble wrap and blankets.
• 55:45
  Matt: No one would have expected that airliner carrying all those cars to drop those Humvees out the back of it.
• 55:53
  Eric: And that's my other, and that's the other thing too, is why I just try to surrender as much as possible.
• 55:59
  Eric: Like it has truly been a meditation on surrender for me because I'm like, look, if life and stories and and and anything has taught me anything, it's that the more you try to run from it, the more you assure it.
• 56:12
  Eric: So I just I don't, I don't even bring it up.
• 56:14
  Eric: I will not and every year I will just wait until like 12, 12 a.m.
• 56:20
  Eric: August 28th, and be like, whew, made it.
• 56:23
  Eric: And and and and and that is when I will that is when I won't speak of it on the day.
• 56:28
  Eric: I'm just I just go about my day.
• 56:30
  Eric: I live my life.
• 56:32
  Eric: And if a fucking jumbo jet's gonna drop a shitmen of cars on me, that's fine.
• 56:37
  Eric: That's if I'm gonna die.
• 56:39
  Eric: What what could you have done?
• 56:41
  Eric: What what could I have done?
• 56:42
  Eric: Outrun fate couldn't be me.
• 56:44
  Eric: Certainly couldn't outdrive it.
• 56:45
  Eric: And I also realized like this is honestly because everyone asks the question, like, oh, do you want to know the day you're gonna die?
• 56:52
  Eric: No, I do want to know the day, I don't want to know the year.
• 56:55
  Eric: And that's oh no, no error that and that I've I've that I've taken comfort in this now.
• 57:02
  Eric: I'm like, ooh, okay, yeah, no, that's interesting.
• 57:06
  Matt: I don't think I I think I might have said, yeah, it would be nice to know, but even you saying I don't want to know the year, but I want to know the day, I'd be filled with such anxiety of every year, of the of the days leading up to it.
• 57:22
  Matt: Of you know, like uh or if I say the year but not the day, I'd be like, Well, it could be it could be midnight on January 1st.
• 57:29
  Matt: You know, so like there'd be so much dread.
• 57:32
  Matt: So I guess it's it's better that I just take the traditional route of everyone else who's uh uh you know pretty much ever lived uh and not killed themselves and didn't know.
• 57:42
  Eric: Oh yeah, bro.
• 57:43
  Eric: Big fish, I'm looking into that witch's eye.
• 57:45
  Eric: There you go.
• 57:47
  Eric: There you go.
• 57:47
  Eric: Uh you want to give us the next one?
• 57:50
  Matt: I do.
• 57:50
  Matt: Name three.
• 57:53
  Matt: I don't know.
• 57:54
  Matt: Did I actually say if I had a hunch?
• 57:57
  Matt: Did I?
• 57:58
  Matt: Oh.
• 57:58
  Matt: I think I feel like I bogarded that.
• 58:01
  Matt: I I mean, I were uh well, just to like put a button on it.
• 58:04
  Matt: I like I have many worries about how I'll die rather than.
• 58:07
  Matt: Oh, right.
• 58:07
  Eric: We talked about our generalized anxiety about like but do you do you got a hunch?
• 58:13
  Matt: I don't think I have like I've had a long-standing fear of dying in a car accident, um, and uh getting cancer or some sort of like brain tumor.
• 58:21
  Matt: Those are like the big bad ones.
• 58:25
  Matt: Yes, the fears is something that I have.
• 58:28
  Matt: Yeah, I don't know that I have a full-on hunch.
• 58:32
  Matt: And it was they said they asked genuinely, do you?
• 58:35
  Matt: So I think the answer is I don't have a hunch, but I have fears.
• 58:38
  Matt: Name three things you and your partner appear to have in common.
• 58:47
  Eric: I'm I'm just gonna get this softball one out of the way.
• 58:50
  Eric: The the one of the qualities, so many of our anxieties overlap.
• 58:54
  Eric: Yes.
• 58:55
  Eric: That like that the and the last question demonstrated that.
• 58:58
  Eric: The last question a lot, and and I would say to the point too, so do our uh many of our of our rage triggers also overlap.
• 59:09
  Eric: Like they're and they tend to center around decorum.
• 59:14
  Eric: They do, they they they center around decorum uh and and social niceties and just the social contract.
• 59:21
  Eric: I feel like you and me, in our in our views of like the social contract in general, are very much.
• 59:28
  Matt: Pretty aligned.
• 59:28
  Matt: We we and that this has been on display throughout this podcast, I think.
• 59:33
  Matt: We've had many questions about the social.
• 59:35
  Matt: Our visits, uhft and afraid out into the world have shown it.
• 59:42
  Matt: Like, so yeah, so I I do think there's plenty of things that the listeners are jumping to say that like uh we have in common.
• 59:51
  Matt: I think we have a lot of the same interests in terms of uh genres and oh yeah, and you know, the art in general.
• 1:00:01
  Eric: I I I will say this, yeah.
• 1:00:03
  Eric: There are rarely like usually our relationship to movies is is like us telling each other how much the other one is going to love a piece of like we are very good at like oh like Eric, I I can't stress enough.
• 1:00:16
  Matt: You will love Widow's Bay.
• 1:00:18
  Eric: I know you will be all the fuck in.
• 1:00:22
  Eric: TNG is going to make you cry.
• 1:00:24
  Eric: Oh, have you listened to bonus episode?
• 1:00:27
  Eric: No, God, I can't.
• 1:00:29
  Eric: I just need I need nothing time so I can watch T.
• 1:00:32
  Matt: Eric, it is it is wholesale.
• 1:00:33
  Matt: Eric, this TNG better be holy, wholesale different.
• 1:00:37
  Matt: Oh, that's all I'm gonna say.
• 1:00:38
  Matt: Oh, that's all I gotta say.
• 1:00:39
  Matt: It better be something special here.
• 1:00:41
  Matt: Matt it truly is.
• 1:00:42
  Matt: I'm committed to this, but those yeah, those films are fucking bad, man.
• 1:00:46
  Matt: Yeah.
• 1:00:46
  Matt: I haven't even seen most of them.
• 1:00:49
  Matt: They're all pretty bad.
• 1:00:51
  Matt: Yeah.
• 1:00:51
  Matt: Even the good ones are bad ones.
• 1:00:53
  Matt: Yeah.
• 1:00:54
  Matt: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:57
  Matt: Uh but that's all I'll say.
• 1:00:59
  Matt: The rest is behind a paywall.
• 1:01:01
  Eric: Yeah, our tastes in fiction, our tastes in storytelling tend to be very heavily aligned.
• 1:01:07
  Eric: We're we are very we're you're you're someone I always feel comfortable making a recommendation for.
• 1:01:12
  Eric: Like, I know like if you're like, hey, give me a thing that was I got you.
• 1:01:16
  Eric: Uh I would say we're Matt, I like I'm trying to think of like an a non-egotistic way.
• 1:01:25
  Eric: We're both we're both fucking, I'm not even gonna lit up.
• 1:01:30
  Eric: It's our podcast, Eric.
• 1:01:31
  Eric: Say it.
• 1:01:32
  Eric: This isn't even on the list because it's so like we're both very funny.
• 1:01:36
  Eric: We're both we're we're both very humorous.
• 1:01:38
  Eric: That that's but that is related to, but Matt, we're however we're very funny guys.
• 1:01:42
  Eric: We can we we can we can hold it.
• 1:01:44
  Eric: Matt, we're very fucking smooth when we choose to be.
• 1:01:48
  Eric: When we choose to be, yeah.
• 1:01:49
  Eric: And and that's a thing.
• 1:01:51
  Eric: We wield it, we wield it appropriately.
• 1:01:53
  Eric: Like when we need to bust out smooth, oh buddy.
• 1:01:59
  Matt: Let me I I'll say this.
• 1:02:01
  Matt: I don't know that I agree with you about myself, but I imagine you might say the exact same thing.
• 1:02:08
  Matt: But I will say to you, Eric.
• 1:02:10
  Matt: Okay, listeners, I've seen this guy in action, okay.
• 1:02:15
  Matt: The when when Eric's got a when Eric's got a scent, this maybe this bloodhound is on the hunt.
• 1:02:31
  Eric: Right.
• 1:02:31
  Eric: No, no, no.
• 1:02:37
  Eric: The other one who won't take no furnance.
• 1:02:44
  Eric: Yes, yes.
• 1:02:45
  Matt: No, no, no, but I think it's remarkable because like at one, like I've I'm I know I've told this on the podcast before.
• 1:02:52
  Matt: The first time we like really like we met each other at auditions to get into Towson, but that that's like where we met.
• 1:03:00
  Matt: But but after that, when we first like interacted, was the first night of college, we went to whatever those freshman like or uh you know, like welcome events were, and you we were in the student union and you jumped on a table in front of a bunch of strangers and started doing some bit.
• 1:03:18
  Matt: Yeah, and I remember looking up at you now 10, 12 feet tall, and and say and being like, wow, like he just has like a this this guy's got such like a uh wild abandon to him.
• 1:03:36
  Matt: Like what a what a classy way to phrase that.
• 1:03:39
  Matt: No, I mean it like this guy, he just fucking goes.
• 1:03:42
  Matt: There's a there's a there's a bravery married with a don't give a fuck what people think for this bit that he's gonna do, and there's he's doing some wacky thing.
• 1:03:55
  Matt: There's that guy, and then there's the guy that I see all of a sudden in the corner of the party with somebody else, and like it's just like the moves that this man has, folks.
• 1:04:12
  Matt: It you'd I tell you, and I think this why it works for you.
• 1:04:16
  Matt: You never see it coming, you'd never see it coming because you truly can be like, holy shit, poach.
• 1:04:24
  Eric: Like I am damn, I am, I am uh and Alyssa can attest to this when I can when I am flirting with you, it is and like I I I this is like you gotta know yourself.
• 1:04:42
  Eric: I I I think the best way to describe and what links those two people you describe, there's a shamelessness to it.
• 1:04:49
  Eric: Like, like, like, and not like a desperation shamelessness, but it's like a true like please, there's a confidence to it.
• 1:04:56
  Eric: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:57
  Eric: There is like only God can judge me.
• 1:05:00
  Eric: Hi, I'm Eric Poach.
• 1:05:02
  Eric: I I it's and and clearly I'm only doing this with people who I think are interested in me too.
• 1:05:12
  Eric: I'm not just picking on people picking people to go pepe la pew mode on them.
• 1:05:16
  Eric: Of course not.
• 1:05:17
  Eric: No, I was making a little joke on the code.
• 1:05:18
  Eric: No, no, no.
• 1:05:19
  Eric: But but I I uh I I would say, Matt, here's how I'd say, and I I would say this is true for both of us.
• 1:05:26
  Eric: Hopeless romantics.
• 1:05:28
  Matt: I do think I fall into that category.
• 1:05:30
  Matt: Hopeless romantics.
• 1:05:31
  Matt: I don't I don't know that I always have the smoothness to go along with it, but I do have the hopeless romantic uh characteristic.
• 1:05:40
  Matt: Like I I remember agonizing, agonizing over like what to do for Lindsay on our first Valentine's Day.
• 1:05:50
  Matt: Oh like it was a life and death decision.
• 1:05:55
  Eric: Yeah.
• 1:05:55
  Matt: Yep.
• 1:05:56
  Matt: That I remember.
• 1:05:58
  Eric: Yeah.
• 1:05:58
  Eric: You you love the Fuck out of your wife.
• 1:06:01
  Matt: Yeah.
• 1:06:02
  Eric: I mean that every every goddamn day you love your wife.
• 1:06:06
  Eric: I and it generally speaking, and I recommended this to all husbands.
• 1:06:10
  Eric: You should.
• 1:06:11
  Eric: You should.
• 1:06:11
  Eric: Oh, listen.
• 1:06:12
  Eric: I have this conversation.
• 1:06:13
  Eric: And and and in that sense, I simp so fucking hard for my partner.
• 1:06:17
  Eric: Like, and you have to.
• 1:06:19
  Eric: You got to.
• 1:06:20
  Eric: You gotta simp for your fucking partner.
• 1:06:22
  Matt: I think, yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:23
  Matt: I think I think there's no more hopeless romantic way to put it than that, buddy.
• 1:06:29
  Matt: Oh, Humphrey Bogot himself couldn't have put more sugar on that.
• 1:06:37
  Eric: Uh was that three things?
• 1:06:39
  Eric: Uh I feel like we just we blasted so many out.
• 1:06:43
  Eric: I think it is three things.
• 1:06:44
  Eric: Okay, good.
• 1:06:45
  Eric: For what in your life do you feel most grateful?
• 1:06:50
  Eric: Uh Lindsay Arbar.
• 1:06:51
  Eric: Yeah, Lindsay Arbar.
• 1:06:52
  Eric: I too.
• 1:06:54
  Eric: Uh Dr.
• 1:06:55
  Eric: Lindsay Arbar.
• 1:06:56
  Eric: You too, huh?
• 1:06:57
  Eric: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:58
  Eric: Every day I wait.
• 1:06:58
  Eric: I I have her, I have her, I don't have a framed picture of your wife next to my bed, though weird, but I do have a framed copy of her doctorate.
• 1:07:05
  Eric: I have a bound copy of her doctorate.
• 1:07:09
  Eric: Hell yeah.
• 1:07:10
  Eric: Of her dissertation, that is.
• 1:07:12
  Eric: Um, I uh uh but lit Lindsay is your answer.
• 1:07:16
  Eric: Lindsay's 100% on the question bad.
• 1:07:18
  Eric: You two you two have gone have done the ultimate gone all in.
• 1:07:23
  Eric: Gone all in like it, I I feel like it does you don't go more all in with someone than let's create a life.
• 1:07:30
  Matt: I I I really don't know who or what I'd be without Lindsay.
• 1:07:35
  Eric: My man.
• 1:07:36
  Eric: Look, see, that's what I mean, dude.
• 1:07:37
  Eric: That was smooth.
• 1:07:39
  Eric: That was like, and not in the like in any facetious sense.
• 1:07:43
  Eric: Like that was just so such a class act.
• 1:07:45
  Eric: I mean, that's just the truth, though.
• 1:07:47
  Eric: Yeah, there's no act.
• 1:07:48
  Eric: That's the thing.
• 1:07:49
  Eric: All class, no act.
• 1:07:50
  Eric: That's not Shay.
• 1:07:51
  Eric: Oh, dude, you need to make business cards with the fucking the the tagline.
• 1:07:56
  Eric: Oh, that's no act.
• 1:07:58
  Eric: That's that's smooth as fuck.
• 1:08:00
  Eric: See, smooth.
• 1:08:01
  Eric: That's what I mean when I say smooth.
• 1:08:04
  Eric: Don't get it twisted.
• 1:08:05
  Eric: Smooth, like when people say, oh, he's smooth, like they imply there's like some ulterior mode of like no no no, he's smooth.
• 1:08:12
  Eric: He's smooth, fucking smooth, moisturized.
• 1:08:14
  Eric: You're a fine dime, you know that?
• 1:08:16
  Eric: Thank you, Eric.
• 1:08:20
  Eric: Thank you.
• 1:08:20
  Eric: Uh and for you, yeah.
• 1:08:22
  Eric: Uh for me, uh it is truly in the darkest, worst, most wretched parts of my life, and the happiest heights of joy, there's been one like common thread throughout like the the highest high, like the thing that was that like got me to the highest highs and pulled me out of the lowest lows, and it is like my friends.
• 1:08:48
  Eric: And when I say my friends, I just mean like my community, my like my my love, like my people.
• 1:08:55
  Eric: You are my people, Matt.
• 1:08:57
  Eric: Yeah, I am like for for oh my fucking people, wholly.
• 1:09:02
  Eric: I like it, it is it, it's it's it's the reason for the season.
• 1:09:06
  Eric: It's why it's it's like truly like like in the past few years.
• 1:09:10
  Eric: Every time I thought of like, what is my purpose in life?
• 1:09:12
  Eric: My brain just goes, community.
• 1:09:14
  Eric: And like it says it in this kind of shred, like, bro, like community.
• 1:09:18
  Eric: Like that you figured it out.
• 1:09:21
  Eric: That's that's what it's all about.
• 1:09:23
  Eric: It's like the just that connection.
• 1:09:25
  Eric: I'm like, fuck.
• 1:09:27
  Matt: Hell really nice.
• 1:09:28
  Matt: That rules, really nice, Eric.
• 1:09:31
  Matt: Yeah, very good.
• 1:09:33
  Matt: That's just a nice question, that one.
• 1:09:35
  Matt: Yeah.
• 1:09:36
  Matt: Now let's transition to if you could change anything about the way you were raised, what would it be?
• 1:09:48
  Eric: To paraphrase Regis, Rick, you are on the hot seat.
• 1:09:52
  Eric: Yeah.
• 1:09:53
  Eric: Let me let me say this, and I and I say this, I say this in in like I've thought of how I looked at that question.
• 1:10:02
  Eric: I was like, how am I gonna answer this in a way that isn't just me turning our podcast audience into my therapist and make an appropriate manner?
• 1:10:11
  Eric: So, what I will say is this I will never in my life doubt that my parents love me and that they did the best they fucking could with what they had.
• 1:10:23
  Eric: If I could change anything, it would be to have enough money that my parents, like like growing up, could just afford to have therapists of their own who commute therapists who because a lot more therapists do this these days.
• 1:10:39
  Eric: Do you know you gotta do that?
• 1:10:40
  Eric: Yeah, well no please.
• 1:10:43
  Eric: Well, when I when I when I got my therapist, one of the things he said, he's like, oh, he's like, hey, and by the way, if you uh he's like, this is an option if you ever want to do this, but if you it if you ever want to, like I could link up with you if your your partner has a therapist and you ever want the two of us to like talk and compare to like like to like talk about things together, like put our heads together, which we can then bring back to you guys and be like, hey, it sounds like you got like as a part of like a couple's therapy, he's also done he's also done it where he's like, Hey, you know, I uh like he'll be individual therapy for two different people who are married, and then he will do like couples counseling with them.
• 1:11:23
  Eric: If I could have given my parents any gift, it would have been that.
• 1:11:26
  Eric: My parents love each other to the ends of the earth, would die for each other.
• 1:11:29
  Eric: But if I could change anything about the way I was raised, God, I would I would have just gotten my parents therapy.
• 1:11:37
  Matt: I I think that's a very uh gr gracious answer.
• 1:11:41
  Matt: Like uh, like because you're right, you could just air out some shit.
• 1:11:45
  Matt: Oh yeah.
• 1:11:45
  Matt: Which I will now do.
• 1:11:46
  Matt: No, yes, but uh no, I actually don't know how to answer this question.
• 1:11:50
  Matt: And I and like I I actually tried to like after we had the idea, I tried not to look at the list because I didn't want to remember any of the questions.
• 1:11:59
  Eric: Like I did want to kind of clearly want to familiarize, yeah.
• 1:12:02
  Eric: I did a graze.
• 1:12:03
  Eric: Right.
• 1:12:04
  Matt: I did a little graze to see like what was coming.
• 1:12:06
  Matt: And like I said, I did uh we well actually I don't think I said on the the piece, but we did a theater piece with it at single carrot back in the day.
• 1:12:13
  Matt: So like I I had a rough familiarity with some of these questions.
• 1:12:16
  Matt: So I but so I was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, those.
• 1:12:19
  Matt: But I wanted to like kind of let like kind of get hit by them.
• 1:12:22
  Matt: And this one has kind of hit me in a way that I'm like, I don't know, because like what's something that I have realized over time is I had a pretty great childhood compared to a lot of folks, especially a lot of folks in theater.
• 1:12:39
  Matt: Um, and we once had a uh professor uh in a fa in a somewhat famous uh instant or uh instance in our um in our years, in our you know uh four-year group, you know, our uh our cohort, our our crop, our crop, our cohort.
• 1:12:58
  Matt: The um I um I was vulnerable in an acting class and shared, like, I don't know sometimes.
• 1:13:09
  Matt: I feel like if I haven't had some sort of horrible trauma like from my childhood, if I can be a good actor.
• 1:13:20
  Eric: And and focusing at home, this is a thought that so many like this is so many actors have like this is something that people legitimately struggle with in this struggle with in this profession.
• 1:13:30
  Matt: And the professor told me, yeah, probably not.
• 1:13:36
  Eric: And uh I that was a sardonic laugh.
• 1:13:40
  Matt: And I I know, and I remember there was a uh a couple years ago a mutual friend of ours recalled this event without naming names, and I appreciated that, but at the same time, I wanted to be like, oh, in case anyone thinks this is bullshit, it's me.
• 1:13:56
  Matt: I'm the person that she's describing.
• 1:13:58
  Matt: I asked this question, and this is what was you know given to me in response.
• 1:14:04
  Matt: So, like, but there are there are things, there are things that I wish were different.
• 1:14:10
  Eric: Sure.
• 1:14:10
  Eric: Uh and yeah, and and and and for me, this question doesn't even have to involve like heavy shit.
• 1:14:15
  Eric: Like, like, like every like there's no, yeah.
• 1:14:19
  Matt: I think uh so in terms of how I was raised, like how you're raised implies It's different from how'd you grow up.
• 1:14:28
  Matt: How'd you grow up?
• 1:14:29
  Matt: And like I I have a lot more answers for how'd you grow up than how you were raised.
• 1:14:34
  Matt: Yes, I think.
• 1:14:35
  Matt: Yes.
• 1:14:36
  Eric: Because like I I appreciate you giving that the the the distinction that that deserves.
• 1:14:41
  Matt: Because I have a I I have like a pretty good I have a pretty great relationship, I'd say, with my parents.
• 1:14:47
  Matt: With and but like I think one difference uh and uh uh maybe this has something to do with being how uh I don't know how my parents would factor into this, but there was a I I do think it wasn't until college that I started really coming out of my shell and doing things that weren't necessarily in my comfort zone and you know um the things like that that I if I had I I do look back and wish I had the courage to do some of that earlier.
• 1:15:26
  Matt: Oh, yeah, yeah, okay.
• 1:15:28
  Eric: Oh, because once that's a phenomenal answer.
• 1:15:31
  Matt: Because once I did, there is a little bit of like, oh, I wasted so much time.
• 1:15:37
  Matt: Oh, sure.
• 1:15:37
  Matt: You know, um I could have had so much more of these experiences and done so much, yeah, you know, but and so is that a raised thing?
• 1:15:47
  Matt: Maybe I don't know, but um, yeah, I don't have a ton for those.
• 1:15:51
  Eric: No, no, no, that makes sense.
• 1:15:52
  Eric: And and and there is a book I read in college, which if for for people of like a certain col like age who went to college, this book was probably like there was like a peak time when this was probably like assigned and and and I was like going through college uh when I gave it up.
• 1:16:10
  Eric: But it was the five people you meet in heaven.
• 1:16:12
  Eric: Oh yeah, phenomenal classic.
• 1:16:14
  Eric: I'm not even like I'm I'm I'm not like a a deist or anything, but it's like that that that fucking book was so good.
• 1:16:22
  Eric: And uh this the but the the passage from it that I have never forgotten since I the one that stuck with me, I think about it uh uh to this day, is just the sentence, all parents damage their children.
• 1:16:37
  Eric: Sure.
• 1:16:38
  Eric: The question is to what degree?
• 1:16:40
  Eric: And like it's like what is the flavor of that?
• 1:16:43
  Eric: Like, there's no such thing as a person on this earth who wasn't damaged by their parents in some way.
• 1:16:50
  Eric: It is it is it's something that's very much on my mind.
• 1:16:53
  Eric: Oh, I'm oh dude, I'm sure.
• 1:16:56
  Eric: I'm sure like that.
• 1:16:57
  Eric: I'm like that.
• 1:16:59
  Eric: I I I I think about that.
• 1:17:00
  Eric: Like I think about you thinking about that because I I because like I know my boy's anxiety, right?
• 1:17:06
  Eric: It's like and I know what I like.
• 1:17:07
  Eric: That's another thing we share in common a lot.
• 1:17:10
  Eric: I feel like there are certain anxieties I will feel where it was like, I feel a kinship with you because I know we've both had like had these, and like, but like there are times I'm like, oh, he's he probably worries about that so much.
• 1:17:23
  Eric: Of course, yeah.
• 1:17:24
  Eric: And it's one of those like, and I don't blame him, I would be fucking feeling that way in this position.
• 1:17:31
  Matt: Yeah, and I think like I don't know, Lindsay and I have like talked about it too.
• 1:17:35
  Matt: Like when you have the mo because you will, when you have the moment of like frustration, and you sort of like uh, you know, are openly frustrated with a baby, yeah.
• 1:17:49
  Matt: And not, you know, not nothing crazy, just like a little like lose your cool for a second.
• 1:17:55
  Matt: Come on.
• 1:17:55
  Matt: And uh, you know, it's the the reason there is that children's book, Go the fuck to sleep.
• 1:18:01
  Matt: Uh it's the reason that it exists.
• 1:18:03
  Matt: Yeah, you have that moment, and then you are hit by a tidal wave of guilt.
• 1:18:10
  Matt: Guilt of like, yeah, oh my god, what have I done?
• 1:18:14
  Matt: Like, this is going straight in the book.
• 1:18:17
  Matt: Yeah, like right into the memoir.
• 1:18:22
  Matt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:23
  Matt: Yeah, like oh no.
• 1:18:25
  Matt: Uh, but like, and like even that, you know it's crazy.
• 1:18:29
  Matt: Like you you can sense it.
• 1:18:32
  Eric: Yeah, you are you are you are you can look at it under a microscope and say, this is it is uh it is absurd that I'm I'm doing this to myself right now.
• 1:18:40
  Matt: But it is it is the craziest whiplash of like oh my god, yeah.
• 1:18:44
  Matt: I can't believe it.
• 1:18:45
  Eric: Like you know that is something I watched my parents experience.
• 1:18:50
  Eric: Like when I say like I watched them lose it.
• 1:18:55
  Eric: I watched them like fucking it was they they dropped the ball as human beings do, and then what and I watched in real time the guilt hit them.
• 1:19:07
  Eric: It's like it's like the you it it seems to be like that universal, like fuck man, you're a parent.
• 1:19:14
  Matt: I I know Lindsay and I have this we do this all the time.
• 1:19:18
  Matt: We're like, we have a kid.
• 1:19:20
  Eric: Can I hit you with a however though?
• 1:19:22
  Eric: Sure, because I know like I am only saying however because I'm interested in the you have a you're a parent, however.
• 1:19:28
  Eric: However, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:19:29
  Eric: It it it it's because like I realize like that however came off the end of like a heavy moment, and that's okay.
• 1:19:36
  Eric: But I want to say, however, in much the same way you were telling me earlier, like you know, like how happy I was Matt.
• 1:19:41
  Eric: You are sleep deprived, yes, your brain is running a million miles a minute at all times, yes, you are hither and thither, you are fucking juggling 10,000 things at a time now, you and Lydia.
• 1:19:54
  Eric: Matt, you look so fucking happy though.
• 1:19:58
  Eric: Like, like, like, dude, like, like the watching you talk about your kid.
• 1:20:03
  Eric: I'm never gonna have children, but like watching you talk about your kid, my whole soul just lights up.
• 1:20:10
  Eric: I'm like, I'm like, fucking.
• 1:20:11
  Eric: I'm like, that's that's the reason for the season.
• 1:20:14
  Matt: I mean, we yeah, we were we were having these moments like uh before on Off Mike on God today of like, yeah, just you talking about how much you fucking love your kid.
• 1:20:22
  Matt: Well he does it radiates.
• 1:20:24
  Matt: He is transitioning from the the angry potato phase of like I am either upset or asleep to like people have told us, oh, he's so curious.
• 1:20:38
  Matt: And like it took me being like, oh yeah, I guess there are some babies that aren't just constantly looking at everything.
• 1:20:48
  Matt: Like he wondered.
• 1:20:49
  Matt: He yeah, he's looking around, and like there are like he's glowing, folks.
• 1:20:55
  Matt: There are there are moments because he's there.
• 1:20:59
  Matt: Like, how fucking dope is this?
• 1:21:08
  Matt: Is your first woodpecker?
• 1:21:10
  Matt: There will be more.
• 1:21:12
  Matt: There will be others.
• 1:21:14
  Matt: Such wonders does the woods have for you, my son.
• 1:21:18
  Eric: 45 years from now, I remember when my father first showed me the woodpeckers.
• 1:21:24
  Matt: My they still come to me in my dreams, the woodpecker.
• 1:21:27
  Matt: I was much too young to see it.
• 1:21:31
  Eric: He's banging his head into a wall like no, no.
• 1:21:34
  Eric: No, he's gonna be great.
• 1:21:35
  Eric: He's gonna be great.
• 1:21:36
  Matt: No, the padded rooms, no.
• 1:21:41
  Eric: Uh, okay.
• 1:21:42
  Eric: I don't know if Eric, I don't know if we're gonna hit 18.
• 1:21:45
  Eric: Honestly, that's fine.
• 1:21:47
  Eric: I love the pace we've been going.
• 1:21:49
  Eric: I love the pace we've been going.
• 1:21:50
  Eric: I don't want to disrupt it.
• 1:21:51
  Eric: But like we can pull the chord whenever.
• 1:21:53
  Matt: No, well, here's what I was gonna suggest.
• 1:21:55
  Matt: As uh as we said earlier, the there are three sets.
• 1:21:59
  Matt: And we're we're coming up on the end of the first set.
• 1:22:02
  Eric: So maybe a three-parter, bro.
• 1:22:04
  Matt: I don't know that it I think we could, you know, now that we've got the preamble out of the way, we could potentially move a little faster in part two.
• 1:22:10
  Matt: All right, but hey, you know, we'll see.
• 1:22:14
  Matt: Maybe we gotta put part three by and a paywall.
• 1:22:16
  Matt: We'll see.
• 1:22:16
  Matt: Yeah, we'll see.
• 1:22:18
  Matt: Depends how intimate it gets.
• 1:22:20
  Matt: Find out.
• 1:22:21
  Matt: Did they or didn't they?
• 1:22:24
  Matt: In oops, all tangents.
• 1:22:26
  Matt: No, just kidding.
• 1:22:27
  Eric: But that brings us to the next question.
• 1:22:29
  Eric: Yeah, take four minutes and tell your partner your life story in as much detail as possible.
• 1:22:36
  Eric: See, this is weird because like we know each other's life stories.
• 1:22:41
  Matt: Yes, yeah, like this this would be for the the the pod.
• 1:22:44
  Matt: Um, yeah.
• 1:22:46
  Matt: The I mean, we could do it.
• 1:22:48
  Matt: That's a minimum of another eight minutes.
• 1:22:51
  Eric: Yeah.
• 1:22:51
  Eric: I say, you know what, Matt?
• 1:22:54
  Eric: I say we save this one for an oops all tangents.
• 1:22:57
  Matt: Oh, hello, Eric.
• 1:22:58
  Matt: I didn't think of this.
• 1:22:59
  Matt: Yeah.
• 1:23:00
  Matt: Pulling select questions for oops all tangents.
• 1:23:03
  Eric: Yeah, we're yeah, we're just gonna we're gonna throw that one into the add that's gonna be in the addendum because also It's too real.
• 1:23:10
  Eric: For the it's too too real, and for the for the for the average, you know, person who's probably gonna subscribe to our podcast, it might not be one of they want to hear.
• 1:23:19
  Eric: You know what?
• 1:23:20
  Eric: But that's why we made oops all tangents, where we talk about the shit that the the real fans want to hear.
• 1:23:26
  Matt: That the that that that our people want to know.
• 1:23:28
  Eric: The ones who pay four dollars and twenty-four motherfucking cents a month to hear.
• 1:23:33
  Eric: After tags, yeah.
• 1:23:35
  Eric: Yeah, we'll tell each other our life stories in an oops all tangents.
• 1:23:38
  Matt: I think that's good.
• 1:23:39
  Matt: And you know what?
• 1:23:40
  Matt: Fuck you in your four minutes.
• 1:23:41
  Matt: We'll take as long as it takes.
• 1:23:43
  Matt: Yeah.
• 1:23:43
  Matt: Uh number so that brings us to number 12.
• 1:23:46
  Eric: Yeah.
• 1:23:47
  Matt: If you could wake up tomorrow having gained any one quality or ability, what would it be?
• 1:23:56
  Eric: Oh.
• 1:23:57
  Eric: I I this is one I knew the second I read it.
• 1:24:01
  Eric: Oh, interesting.
• 1:24:03
  Eric: Yeah.
• 1:24:03
  Eric: Uh, I would have the gift of tongues.
• 1:24:06
  Eric: Like, I would every language I could read and understand and speak fluently.
• 1:24:11
  Eric: If I if I could have every single, that would be so fucking sick.
• 1:24:17
  Eric: Ideally, I would be at a point with each language where I still had more to learn so that I wouldn't be bored with learning more of the language.
• 1:24:25
  Eric: But like mostly I just like the ability to communicate with anyone on the fucking planet.
• 1:24:32
  Eric: Yeah.
• 1:24:32
  Eric: The amount of stories and folklore I'd get to learn, the conversation, like I'd get to, I would suddenly have an avenue to becoming friends with another like the vast majority of the planet who does not share my language.
• 1:24:45
  Matt: I think that's great.
• 1:24:47
  Matt: I, you know, I often bemoan the fact that like I took Spanish in middle school and high school and have retained so very little of it.
• 1:24:59
  Matt: Yeah.
• 1:24:59
  Matt: And I remember I chose Spanish because I was like, oh, this could be useful one day.
• 1:25:06
  Matt: And it fucking would have been.
• 1:25:08
  Matt: Like, yeah.
• 1:25:10
  Matt: So like I I am sort of constantly wishing that for myself.
• 1:25:15
  Matt: I don't think that's what I would say for this question, because I also had something jumped to mind.
• 1:25:20
  Matt: And if I sat here for 10 minutes to think about it, maybe I'd have a better answer.
• 1:25:24
  Matt: But what jumped to mind was I have had to various degrees of obsession throughout my life since I learned of it.
• 1:25:35
  Matt: A an obsession, an extreme interest in being able to lucid dream.
• 1:25:42
  Eric: Oh yes, what a good answer.
• 1:25:44
  Eric: Yes, go, go, go, go.
• 1:25:46
  Matt: And specifically, like on command, not just like have one, but be like, oh, I need to work on some shit.
• 1:25:53
  Matt: Let me go into the dream palace.
• 1:25:55
  Matt: Like Bro, what a good answer.
• 1:25:58
  Matt: That that is that has always been something that I have pursued, truly pursued.
• 1:26:03
  Matt: I've read books about it and have come up very empty.
• 1:26:07
  Matt: Um I I I have done the best that I've ever done is had a few fleeting moments after the this is a dream moment to be like, wait, don't leave.
• 1:26:23
  Matt: And then like then I wake up.
• 1:26:25
  Eric: Uh it's always like as soon as you realize it's happening, and like it you start losing your grip on the dream.
• 1:26:32
  Matt: For whatever reason, I just haven't been able to grab the reins the way one must.
• 1:26:37
  Eric: That is such a good that'd be mine.
• 1:26:39
  Matt: That'd be mine.
• 1:26:40
  Eric: That is sick.
• 1:26:40
  Eric: That rules, that fucking rules.
• 1:26:43
  Eric: And there are uh uh there are actually traditions of Buddhism where uh they do what's called dream meditation, and and it's basically that it's it's an acting so you can meditate in your dreams.
• 1:26:54
  Matt: It's you know, it's funny that you use that word because I have thought in recent months uh uh actually like prior to having a kid, I haven't had the time to think about thinking about this in the last four months or so.
• 1:27:08
  Matt: But like I have it hit me one day that I was like, I wonder if meditation would be beneficial for me the old Matt Shea hard.
• 1:27:20
  Eric: Yes.
• 1:27:21
  Matt: I don't know where he'd find the time.
• 1:27:23
  Eric: I can I can point you to so many resources.
• 1:27:26
  Eric: I can there's I bet you could be.
• 1:27:28
  Eric: And I don't even mean that like facetiously.
• 1:27:31
  Eric: Yeah, there's there's so oh we we yeah, we can talk about this off mic on God, but fucking it's so and it's one I say this fully like like as someone who I'm eternally in the state of man, I do not meditate nearly often enough or as much as I should, because every time I do, it's always beneficial to me and it always helps.
• 1:27:52
  Eric: It's like it's like going to the gym, it's like putting off going to the gym, but for my brain.
• 1:27:56
  Eric: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:27:57
  Eric: And it but but like, dude, when I do Yeah.
• 1:28:01
  Eric: I can also tell you all the bullshit to avoid.
• 1:28:03
  Matt: Uh so I'm sure there's plenty of that to be to be had.
• 1:28:08
  Eric: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:28:09
  Eric: And then you get to be an Illuminati.
• 1:28:12
  Eric: Nice.
• 1:28:12
  Eric: Meditate for a little bit.
• 1:28:14
  Eric: They send you a card.
• 1:28:15
  Matt: That's cool.
• 1:28:15
  Matt: Yeah, man.
• 1:28:16
  Matt: Like a membership card?
• 1:28:17
  Matt: Yeah.
• 1:28:18
  Matt: Cool.
• 1:28:19
  Matt: Well.
• 1:28:20
  Matt: So that that is the worst kind of transition out of that.
• 1:28:30
  Matt: But that is the end of the first set.
• 1:28:32
  Matt: Yes.
• 1:28:32
  Matt: So what do you think, Eric?
• 1:28:33
  Matt: Do we pause here?
• 1:28:35
  Matt: We've already pulled one question for an Oops All Tangents.
• 1:28:39
  Matt: Yeah, honestly.
• 1:28:40
  Matt: I think we could potentially get through the next two in the next episode.
• 1:28:44
  Matt: I do think so.
• 1:28:45
  Matt: Okay.
• 1:28:45
  Matt: I'd be willing to give that the old college try.
• 1:28:47
  Matt: Because because again, like I think we can 151, we just start, we we have the cold open, sure, whatever.
• 1:28:55
  Matt: And then we say, well, hey, you all know what we're doing.
• 1:28:57
  Matt: This is a continuation, this part two.
• 1:28:59
  Matt: Previously on, you didn't ask for this, and we jump right in.
• 1:29:04
  Matt: Yeah.
• 1:29:04
  Matt: Because we're not going to record everything right now because uh I am sleep deprived and I can't sit here for another 90 minutes, unfortunately.
• 1:29:11
  Matt: But I've I am very much enjoying this conversation.
• 1:29:14
  Eric: I I am loving this.
• 1:29:15
  Eric: I think this is such a Lindsay, doctor and mother Lindsay Arbar.
• 1:29:18
  Eric: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
• 1:29:20
  Eric: This was this is sick.
• 1:29:22
  Eric: I cannot wait for the next one.
• 1:29:23
  Matt: Yeah, we were gonna do inside the actor studio.
• 1:29:26
  Matt: Uh oh, yes, yes.
• 1:29:28
  Matt: Uh, until that was the original idea that we had.
• 1:29:31
  Eric: Yeah, and we're like, we're just gonna Don Lemon each other.
• 1:29:33
  Eric: And then what, Eric?
• 1:29:35
  Eric: Not Don Lemon.
• 1:29:36
  Eric: It's not Don Lemon, it's fucking fuck.
• 1:29:40
  Matt: No, no.
• 1:29:40
  Matt: Let him flounder, folks.
• 1:29:42
  Matt: He said Don Lemon.
• 1:29:45
  Eric: Oh my god.
• 1:29:45
  Eric: The newscaster.
• 1:29:47
  Eric: Yeah, I know, I know.
• 1:29:49
  Eric: I always, I always get it wrong.
• 1:29:53
  Eric: You're Googling it, aren't you?
• 1:29:54
  Eric: Lipton.
• 1:29:54
  Eric: You're Googling it.
• 1:29:55
  Eric: Yes.
• 1:29:56
  Eric: Bro, do you want to know the brain connection?
• 1:29:59
  Eric: It's James Lipton.
• 1:30:00
  Eric: Lipton like the tea.
• 1:30:01
  Eric: My mother, growing up my entire life, drank Lipton tea with lemon in it.
• 1:30:06
  Eric: So every time I think Lipton, I should think Lipton, I think lemon.
• 1:30:09
  Eric: And I go, Don Lemon?
• 1:30:10
  Eric: Yeah, that's gotta be it.
• 1:30:11
  Matt: It goes right back to your parents.
• 1:30:12
  Matt: It always goes right back to right back to your parents.
• 1:30:15
  Matt: So we will be back in episode 151 with hopefully the rest.
• 1:30:20
  Matt: And uh maybe not, you know, maybe we pick out a couple more through a behind a paywall.
• 1:30:24
  Matt: We'll see.
• 1:30:24
  Matt: We'll see.
• 1:30:25
  Matt: Because you know what?
• 1:30:26
  Matt: That's what that's what the old true romantics has have always said.
• 1:30:31
  Matt: If it's love, you'd put it behind a paywall.
• 1:30:34
  Eric: Put it behind a paywall.
• 1:30:35
  Matt: $4.24 for love, baby.
• 1:30:37
  Matt: Come on.
• 1:30:38
  Eric: That's a deal.
• 1:30:38
  Eric: That's a deal.
• 1:30:40
  Eric: You can't steal love, but you can rent it for $4.24.
• 1:30:46
  Eric: $40 a month.
• 1:30:48
  Matt: Uh again, the 24 cents is tax.
• 1:30:50
  Matt: Uh, so yes, Eric is correct.
• 1:30:52
  Matt: Join the Patreon.
• 1:30:53
  Matt: Uh, we've got bonus episodes, we've got oops all tangents, and uh, I do mean that the way I said it.
• 1:30:59
  Matt: We have additional episodes that are in oops all tangents.
• 1:31:04
  Eric: Yeah, oh yeah, we have all so much shit.
• 1:31:06
  Matt: You have Matt's two episodes Matt's trek now as I as I journey where no man has gone before.
• 1:31:14
  Matt: We have the budding of Matt's getting to play D D with me.
• 1:31:18
  Matt: We have we have a lot of stuff going on in Oops All Tangents.
• 1:31:21
  Matt: I think you're gonna enjoy it authentically.
• 1:31:24
  Matt: I think you'll enjoy it.
• 1:31:25
  Matt: I know you'll enjoy the community.
• 1:31:28
  Matt: There it is.
• 1:31:29
  Matt: Uh, and that's only one dollar a month, baby.
• 1:31:34
  Matt: One dot one dollar a month.
• 1:31:36
  Eric: You get these vibes?
• 1:31:37
  Eric: Come on.
• 1:31:38
  Eric: You get these vibes on demand, you can just chat with us.
• 1:31:41
  Eric: You get to see pictures of me and my farmer outfit.
• 1:31:44
  Eric: Absolutely, you do.
• 1:31:46
  Eric: I I like those like this is like the only fans content that we provide.
• 1:31:51
  Eric: It is.
• 1:31:51
  Eric: There is the only fan.
• 1:31:52
  Eric: It's gonna be a channel of just poach dressed like a farmer in overalls and nothing else.
• 1:31:59
  Matt: Um I do, Eric.
• 1:32:00
  Matt: I I'm gonna speak on behalf of the Patreon patrons.
• 1:32:03
  Matt: We are gonna need a fireman-esque calendar from you.
• 1:32:08
  Matt: I do want a farmer poach calendar shoot.
• 1:32:14
  Eric: I'm gonna I'm gonna do it, but I'm just gonna have my boss in the background, and he's gonna be slowly getting closer in each one looking progressively more annoyed and pissed off that I'm not doing work.
• 1:32:26
  Eric: He's trying to fucking hold hauling sacks of potatoes by himself.
• 1:32:32
  Matt: Very too many cooks of you.
• 1:32:34
  Matt: Yes, yes.
• 1:32:35
  Matt: Um, so uh, so join the Patreon and by all means submit the real um uh least pressing questions to us at unaskforthis at gmail.com.
• 1:32:44
  Matt: That's all spelled out on the socials, unask pod, letter you, didn't ask pod, Instagram, mainly, but like I'm the one who does the posting and like I I don't know, guys.
• 1:32:53
  Matt: I haven't had a lot of time to dedicate to it.
• 1:32:55
  Matt: What can I say?
• 1:32:57
  Matt: Gotta kid.
• 1:32:58
  Matt: So like uh mainly that, and the website is of course unaskforthis.com.
• 1:33:04
  Matt: We got a lot of nice merch.
• 1:33:06
  Matt: I think you should check it out.
• 1:33:07
  Matt: I wish you would.
• 1:33:08
  Eric: And um uh yeah, Eric, anything else we gotta throw in there?
• 1:33:11
  Eric: Call us at the thought line.
• 1:33:13
  Eric: That is 410-929-5329.
• 1:33:16
  Eric: Very good thought line with all of your calling.
• 1:33:18
  Eric: Please call us and just leave talk to us about whatever, man.
• 1:33:23
  Eric: Talk to us about what questions you think should be on these on these 36 questions.
• 1:33:28
  Matt: Because I'll tell you this right now.
• 1:33:29
  Matt: We got one in the quiver right now.
• 1:33:30
  Matt: We couldn't get to it on the 150 because of the special nature of what we see that light a blinking.
• 1:33:36
  Matt: But you know, caller, you know who you are.
• 1:33:40
  Matt: We see you.
• 1:33:40
  Matt: We'll get to you.
• 1:33:41
  Matt: Don't you worry, baby bird.
• 1:33:42
  Matt: Oh, we'll feed you.
• 1:33:44
  Eric: Oh, yeah.
• 1:33:44
  Matt: What if that we did an episode where we just did each other's stuff?
• 1:33:47
  Matt: Because I just did the baby, we'll feed you, baby bird.
• 1:33:50
  Eric: Oh, we feed you baby.
• 1:33:50
  Eric: Oh, yeah, we just we just try to adopt as many of the others' bits.
• 1:33:54
  Matt: That sounds like a uh I just ruined, I just ruined somebody's hidden objective.
• 1:34:00
  Eric: I know, yeah.
• 1:34:00
  Eric: This is I was like, this is like the this the very specific hidden objectives.
• 1:34:06
  Matt: Like I gotta say, like now we're digging withers taters.
• 1:34:09
  Eric: Oh, got to.
• 1:34:11
  Matt: Got to.
• 1:34:12
  Eric: I already say that all the time.
• 1:34:14
  Matt: That is yours.
• 1:34:15
  Matt: I I think in our uh uh what what what am I looking for?
• 1:34:21
  Matt: In our vernacular, yeah, the got to of you daft begins with me.
• 1:34:27
  Matt: Like I say a got to, and you you are the echo of the got to.
• 1:34:32
  Eric: It's how we find each other at music festivals.
• 1:34:34
  Eric: Gatu.
• 1:34:38
  Matt: We have a got to mug, by the way, in the merch store.
• 1:34:41
  Matt: Just saying you should get it.
• 1:34:43
  Matt: You got to.
• 1:34:45
  Matt: Ooh.
• 1:34:46
  Matt: Ooh.
• 1:34:47
  Matt: Anyway, that'll about do it for this episode of You didn't ask for this, but we'll be back with part two in episode 151.
• 1:34:53
  Matt: For all of us here and for all of these 150 episodes, my name has been Matshay.
• 1:35:01
  Matt: My name is Eric Poach.
• 1:35:03
  Matt: And listen, you did not ask.
• 1:35:06
  Eric: But if I had the wings of a gulmy boys, I'd spread them and fly home and I'd leave old green lands I see ground, full of right whales there are none And the weather is rough and the winds they do blow There's little comfort here for a man must be mad or must want a money bad to venture hunting a whale.
• 1:35:55
  Eric: And the song just goes like that for like four or five minutes.
• 1:36:00
  Eric: I was I wasn't even gonna interrupt you for a bit, no.
• 1:36:02
  Eric: I'm not even doing it justice.
• 1:36:04
  Eric: It's such a good song.
• 1:36:04
  Eric: Oh it was beautiful.
• 1:36:05
  Eric: This is a song you want to listen to when you're driving and it's raining.
• 1:36:10
  Eric: It's it's it's it's it's it's so peak.
• 1:36:28
  Matt: This is going straight in the book.