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1988's The Naked Gun · Off The Shelf With Phil and Dave- A Movie Review Podcast

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  Hello and welcome to Off the Shelf with Phil and Dave the
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  Movie Talk Show where each week one of us takes a movie off our
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  self. We're wearing the Movies Now.
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  Well played. Hello and welcome to Off the
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  Shelf with Phil and Dave, the Movie Talk Show where each week
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  one of us takes a movie off our shelf.
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  Very good. Hello and welcome to Off the
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  Shelf with Phil and Dave, the Movie Talk Show where each week
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  one of us takes a movie off our shelf, presents it to the other,
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  and discusses it at length. This week we've got coming off
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  of Dave's shelf, 1988's The Naked Gun from the files of
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  Police Squad, starring Leslie Nielsen, of course, directed by
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  Zucker, directed by David Zucker, written by Jerry and
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  David Zucker and Jim Abrahams, who I have to tell you, for a
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  very long time, JJ Abrams was, I thought it was.
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  Jim Abrams. I thought it was Zucker.
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  Abrams and Zucker as the Zazz team.
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  And I'm. I'm wrong.
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  It's Abrahams. There it is, plain and simple.
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  So here it is, David. We're here.
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  One more week on the couch. We are.
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  What brought this movie off your shelf and why now?
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  Good question, Philip I. Don't care how you're doing this
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  week, by the way. I hope you noticed.
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  Clearly that's good. Moved on.
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  I'm going to. I'm going to use a term.
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  It's not politically correct. OK, I.
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  Probably shouldn't say. It get some likes, maybe we get
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  some. But I'm going to anyway, I'm a
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  little slow. OK, Yeah.
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  Right my I have the reactive time, I have the reaction.
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  There it is. I have the reaction time of a
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  turtle. OK, physically, mentally me.
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  What's your refraction time? That's maybe a little.
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  More don't even have one. Don't even have one.
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  That's one and done, yeah. Now except for the snapping
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  turtle. OK, don't mess with those, OK?
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  They're quick. But Naked Gun, whatever it's
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  called, just came out a couple of months ago.
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  Yeah, the Naked Gun, I believe. As soon as I caught wind that
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  that movie was coming out, we could have done this one to
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  align better with its theatrical or streaming or release.
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  Whatever one it was, it was actually theatrical this time.
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  But yes, it was OK. I think it's already available.
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  Could be to rent on Prime when I went to look for this one, but
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  nonetheless, here we are. We're still going to do it a
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  couple months later. Sure.
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  Timeless it it is. That's a question I'll have for
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  you later, but is this timeless? Yep.
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  Yep. And we hadn't done a parody film
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  yet. No, been a while since we've
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  done a comedy in general. Correct.
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  Yeah. Haven't dabbled with anything to
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  do with Leslie Nielsen. True.
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  That's true too. Yeah, a great.
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  Canadian icon, which I will say, no matter how old he was, he
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  died too soon. A guy like that, I went around
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  forever. Forever, whatever.
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  He's in the movies, which means he is.
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  Forever. I suppose so.
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  That's the nice thing that we can watch this movie almost 40
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  years later. Yeah, and he looked.
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  Very old back then. Yeah.
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  He's a strange actor that way. I think I saw him probably first
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  in this movie and then later probably saw Airplane.
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  Yeah. And he looks the same.
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  Yeah. And even later than that, I
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  watched Creepshow, which came out, I want to say 808182, some
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  of that ballpark 82. And he looks the same there.
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  So that is 8 years difference. But I'm like, he always looks
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  the same. Yeah, his career was kind of
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  defined one way. And then through airplane and
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  the Zazz brothers and then obviously Naked Gun taking it to
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  the NTH completely changed. So for a long time he was just a
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  deadpan, like a good dramatic. Yeah, that's what I heard.
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  Good. Looking guy, you know whatever
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  and. For never witnessed.
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  It but yeah, Forbidden Planet. It's amazing movie 1956 OK,
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  sci-fi classic really great. OK, 30 years later he's Frank
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  Dreben and it's iconic. He couldn't be anyone else.
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  Yeah, somehow, right. You couldn't even fathom that he
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  would be so it's really great casting and either right.
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  He's a hilarious Canadian. And and this type of humor to
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  the deadpan style that he brings the table is something we
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  haven't touched at all. We've done the opposite with Jim
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  Carrey, for example, another great Canadian comedian.
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  Yeah, very opposite. And they're in the spectrum with
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  the style of comedy, but they both work.
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  I think about watching Leslie Nielsen getting the blowjob in
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  Ace Ventura. How he?
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  Would play. That same scene.
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  That would be actually, I think, pretty funny.
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  Pretty funny. I think it would be really
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  funny. I think it would make a good pet
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  detective. Just generally, I think it's a
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  role he could do. Well, you want to hear something
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  really stupid? Love to in terms of Leslie
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  Nielsen and playing Drebben in 94.
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  OK was on a guest host, as it were of SummerSlam, the
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  wrestling show. Interesting.
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  OK there were two undertakers. I remember watching that show
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  and two and there were two and he was on the case he and George
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  Kennedy trying to solve the mystery of the two Undertakers
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  and it was all over like the wrestling magazines and stuff.
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  I just thought like A at that point I was already 15 and I
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  just did a little bit great for you though.
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  But in 88 I love this guy and love this movie.
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  So it's like this weird. Like 6 years later I'm like, oh,
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  this is lame. Like really?
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  Oh yeah, You love wrestling. You love drebbing.
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  I was waning out of the wrestling thing and this guy was
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  being a part of it felt really kind of cheesy and silly.
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  So it was like actually it it started to soil itself a little
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  bit. But I thought I've done that.
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  I just thought, what the hell is Leslie Neilson doing on my
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  wrestling show? But anyway.
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  Have you watched it since and have a new?
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  Appreciation for it. I have not.
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  Maybe we should. Maybe we should.
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  Well, now as we you can do it, you let me know.
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  I'll take your word for it. I'll take your word for it.
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  And I didn't realize this until you brought it up.
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  I I was certainly aware of airplane.
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  Yes, yes. Saw bits of it, haven't seen the
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  whole thing. Oh.
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  That's a goodie. I'm guilty of that.
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  I don't feel great about it. I've seen Spy hard.
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  OK. Yeah, Yeah, OK.
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  I don't remember loving it, no. When you mentioned Dracula, I
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  think OK, I remember didn't watch it, but I know of it now
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  that you mentioned. It you didn't love Spyhard and
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  Dracula was dead and loving it yeah that's how good that movie
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  yeah yeah, yeah Brooks too. Let's.
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  Yeah, I've never been a Brooksy guy.
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  Spaceballs. Yeah, I've overrated.
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  Young Frank. Oh yeah, I don't like
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  Spaceballs. No, I don't.
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  Yeah, the told jammed, Bert jammed is funny at the blips,
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  the bleeps, that's funny. That's it.
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  And the afropic and I love Rick Moranis.
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  Yes, you do. I've said it once and I'll say
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  it again on the record eventually, once we do
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  Ghostbusters. Oh, we already did.
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  And we probably talked a lot about Rick Moranis, I am sure.
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  Don't think we we we, we should have.
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  We didn't do any of justice. Another great Canadian.
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  Absolutely, Icon. Well, maybe we'll talk about him
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  soon. There we go.
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  OK. But I had forgotten things like
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  Wrongfully Accused, barely knew of its existence.
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  Repossessed I think is 1. Absolutely, that's a great
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  superheroes. I think he was in that later
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  took over all of that. So it made me realize there is a
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  lot of parody movies out. But I'm trying to think of one
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  recently outside of the Scary Movie, which apparently is up to
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  6. Yeah, I think they're actually
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  working on another one, like a reboot.
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  Did they, like, take over that thing?
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  And they're just responsible for the parodies now, like no one
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  else doesn't. But this one, it's not even this
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  guy like the the Wayans kind of started.
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  Yeah, love the Wayans with the Scary Movie franchise.
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  Yeah. And these guys, James
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  Zuckerberg, Zucker Zuckers. He ended up being nominated for
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  an Oscar for. He directed Ghost in 91.
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  With Bill Cosby. No, that's Ghost Dad.
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  I know. I've done that joke before.
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  You did. You did indeed.
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  I'm a broken record for the record for the record.
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  I'm a broker, but yeah, so anyway, he he directed that he's
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  gone on to do many other things. They did Hot Shots after this
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  anyway. So yeah, they were like the
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  parody guys from the 80s into the sort of mid 90s.
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  And then it just people were like, oh, we can make cheap ones
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  of this. So and you can really tell to me
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  you can tell the the quality drop off because the other ones
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  you just talked about repossessed is terrible.
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  Yeah. And Spy Heart terrible of
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  wrongfully Accused terrible. One of the things that I like
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  about this and we think about a parody, it's easy, I think, to
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  find the jokes. It's harder to find the story.
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  This one at least has a story, however thin it is.
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  There's a narrative. Whereas something like a Scary
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  Movie 4, I don't really feel like there's a narrative
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  function to it. It's just a joke for the sake of
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  joke. Whereas.
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  Oh, you need something? Like Airplane earlier and
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  Hotshots later. It's tell the story of Top Gun,
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  but do it with all the jokes you can possibly think of about
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  action movies. Yeah, do a police show movie and
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  include every single police joke you can think of.
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  Yeah, from a history of police shows.
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  So it goes from Dragnet all the way through.
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  Lots of material. And Airplane the same go and you
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  make a disaster movie and make it as funny as you possibly can,
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  but you keep telling the story and just jam pack it.
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  And I think what ends up happening is in later years,
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  it's just make the joke. And the gap isn't these movies
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  from 40 years ago or 20 years ago or 30 years ago.
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  It's the movie from last year. So if you haven't seen it.
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  Exactly. Like it's, it's just a joke.
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  It's just related to that, like Wrongfully Accused, if it's
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  about the Fugitive, yeah. Now of course, luckily everybody
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  has seen The Fugitive. But yeah, that one is like, tell
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  that story, except that's a movie about the fugitive and not
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  about escape movies, right. Doing one movie as opposed to a
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  genre. And I think that's a problem.
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  Can be. That's why those get.
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  Boring, I think later. Where do you stand with parody
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  porn? I've never watched parody.
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  Really. Me neither.
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  But I I like the idea of it. If you like the idea and you
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  have access to it, I'm. Just, well, I've never seen it,
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  but if somebody was to say, hey, we're going to make a friend's
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  porn, it's and you're going to get Chandler coming in and
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  saying something funny while getting blown, I'm like, well,
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  that's probably a pretty good idea.
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  Yeah, good replayability too. Star Trek TNG, There's a few,
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  I'm sure there is right? So I've heard.
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  So I've heard. Yeah.
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  Now, Phil, you mentioned about the parroting of genre versus
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  parroting a specific film. Yes, right at the beginning of
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  this movie that was doing the genre thing.
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  Luckily we can both agree we are dealing with specific people in
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  history. Yeah, for this prologue you want
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  to call. It it's definitely that's a
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  prologue. It's a prologue I.
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  Love a prologue. MacGyver always had a prologue
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  for the first season or two. Yeah, wonderful.
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  Free credit excitement. And it would go to places like
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  Beirut, actually. You know, he's he's climbing a
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  mountain or something. Yeah.
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  Even though he hates heights. Oh, I didn't know that he did.
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  Hates guns and heights. I can tell you a lot of stuff,
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  buddy. That's not the podcast for.
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  You're for, unfortunately, no. Yeah.
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  So we have a round table, yes, of historical political leaders,
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  yes. Yeah, polite way to say it.
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  Did you recognize any of them? Now you you live this era.
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  I was nine years old when this movie came out.
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  So yeah. But I was alive.
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  I was a student of the game. Yeah.
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  And these people were stuck around for a few years later.
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  So you've been 1314, when these people are still relevant.
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  How many of them did you remember?
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  When watching this, yeah, I knew almost all of them.
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  That's impressive. But remembering in 1988, I was
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  too young to really, I think, fully understand Gorbachev.
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  Obviously, only when I I did. Yeah.
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  Yeah. But someone like Gaddafi.
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  That's right. Slow.
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  Gaddafi, Arafat, Idi Amin, you know, some of that is because
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  they've made movies since like the Last King of Scotland does
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  idiom in like, OK, so you're like, oh, I I know this guy, but
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  I wonder just to to your .40 years on this movie.
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  Would the kids know? Would anybody know or anybody?
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  Yeah. Like how connected are people
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  not only to history generally, but that particular.
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  And we have our own set of dictators now, right.
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  So it's like you swap them out or.
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  Yeah, but. Do you need to know who they are
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  or the question? Because they're just, they're
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  kind of stereotypical. Sure.
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  They're just there for the jokes still.
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  Yeah, that's a good question. I didn't really consider that.
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  You maybe you don't need to know because it's funny just to punch
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  the guy, the Ayatollah and have him have the Mohawk.
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  Yeah. And it doesn't matter that the
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  Ayatollah is who he is. And like has any?
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  Anyone looking like that would not have a Mohawk.
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  That's right. That's why.
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  So it's like, that's the joke. Yeah.
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  And Gorbachev always has a very specific joke, which is the only
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  one I knew of. Therefore, I think me not
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  knowing any of the other ones, I thought it was pretty funny.
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  Yeah. So maybe it doesn't matter.
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  If the joke is funny, then it doesn't matter what it's
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  parodying. Yeah, and I think maybe that's a
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  problem with the other movies is that the jokes aren't that
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  funny. That could be so it.
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  Yeah, if. You're doing a comedy and the
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  jokes aren't funny. That's a problem.
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  Yeah, that's a bigger problem than not recognizing the actor
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  who knew the guy who knew the guy.
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  What was your favorite or funniest moment in that opening
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  sequence in that prologue? I asked because I have one.
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  I figured you might have one. If not, it's OK.
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  It's OK. When I was younger I loved the I
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  knew it looking in the camera that made me laugh when he wiped
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  off the. Gorbachev's birthmark?
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  What's yours? The name tag.
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  My name is Yasser, Yeah. Just in that setting, sure.
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  Them having to wear like name tags, like they're at some sort
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  of conference, true meet and greet.
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  Yeah, I noticed a button I read like I lost 23 lbs to ask me
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  how. Yeah, that's another one that I
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  think that's a very specific, like a Weight Watchers timely
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  commercial that was happening. Yeah, in 88.
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  But yeah, you're right. That's really, it's just funny.
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  Good catch. Because no one would ever wear
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  that. Because.
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  They know who everybody is, obviously.
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  Yeah. And that's why it's funny.
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  And then the introduction of of Dreven, I thought was pretty
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  funny. That whole sequence I thought
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  was like a great introduction and it sets the scene for the
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  movie that we're in. It's pretty silly.
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  Yes. Now, I will say there's a point
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  of silliness where I'm not on board with, OK, not enough to
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  say, OK, well, this is stupid because there is that line
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  between funny and stupid. Sure.
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  And the line is different for everybody.
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  Like, it's not. I'm a guy that loves surviving
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  Christmas and Fred Claus. So, like, silly and funny.
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  Yeah. In fact, you're allowed to have
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  a podcast. Crazy to me.
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  Anyways, everyone's lines a little bit different.
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  It's not in the sand. But the intro with the police
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  car I didn't find funny. You didn't?
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  No, I that title sequence. Yeah.
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  I don't know. I don't that type of humor.
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  Like you end up in the shower. You end up like, I don't know,
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  it's fine. Yeah, all.
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  Right. I thought it was pretty funny.
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  But again, that, and that's the problem with going through a
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  comedy in a podcast form. Yeah, Is.
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  You either find it funny or you don't.
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  But I would say it's impossible for you not to find something
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  funny in this movie. Oh.
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  Yeah, yeah, You have to have no sense of.
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  That's a nice thing. If you don't like that joke,
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  that's OK, because 30 seconds later there's going to be
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  another one. I noticed Philip in part of the
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  title police squad. Oh, from the files of the files
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  of. From what I understand this was
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  ATV show. It's your wheelhouse, yes?
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  And I have not seen one episode of Police Squad and I feel
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  that's a bit of a missed opportunity.
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  Well, it is definitely a missed opportunity, but there's only, I
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  think four of them to choose from, maybe 6.
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  There are 6 episodes. Have you seen it?
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  Because I I wondered how funny they were.
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  If you like this movie, you'll love Police Squad, the
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  television show, which is a strange thing and I'll get into
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  it in a SEC, but because of the success of this, eventually.
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  You bought the six pack? On DVD they've released the six
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  pack exactly and it's hilarious, got commentary tracks, so on and
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  so forth, and it's just as funny as the movie is, but the jokes
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  are the same, which I think is funny.
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  They reuse exact same jokes. Very similar, if not the same
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  jokes. Yeah, OK.
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  So the fact that you use the same jokes six years later,
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  Yeah, everyone loves it. Huge hit. 3 sequels or two
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  sequels. The show got cancelled after six
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  episodes. Yeah, probably cancelled before
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  that. It's like nobody's watching TVT
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  VS Pretty Hot in the early 80s. Like this is still a new thing.
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  Cheers, about to start right 80. 282 yeah, very good, yeah, a lot
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  of good things happening, Simon and Simon.
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  Sure heart to heart, Sure do. Why not Falcon?
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  Crest, a lot of good stuff, but it goes to the big screen, which
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  is also big in that era as well. Going to the theater.
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  Yeah, sure. And people ate it up and loved
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  it generally. I mean, I'm assuming it was well
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  received at the time. Oh.
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  Yeah, this is a huge later hit. Huge hit, Yeah.
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  Which is, to your point, is rather funny.
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  Like you think that's funny If it's a joke, why doesn't a joke
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  work in 82 and work in 88? Maybe the marketing could be
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  yeah, movies marketed to a bigger, broader.
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  That's the audience. There's a lot of television on
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  at any given time. Whereas.
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  Where in theaters now is this movie?
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  Let's go see it. Could be it's It's fascinating
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  though, because it's a good point you bring up.
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  I've done that twice now, two points now.
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  There's probably a fair number of people like yourself.
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  Well, hopefully there isn't a lot of people like you, but that
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  may have looked up police squad after they saw a naked gun and
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  then it got a an increase in viewage.
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  Well, not the. Well, I guess not then, because
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  they're not on syndication. Maybe not in six episodes, I
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  suppose. You have to have 100 to get in
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  syndication. Yeah.
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  What is that? Prerequisite is it or something
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  like Star Trek TNG and Friday the 13th are bought 4
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  syndication so they're already built into syndicated Paramount
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  kind of not thing they yeah. TNG one of the best syndicated
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  shows of all time. Sure, but it was the IT was
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  gotten Friday the 13th part. Yeah, the television.
• 17:34
  Show. Yeah, Speaking of murderers like
• 17:38
  Jason Voorhees in front of 13th, Yeah, we have OJ Simpson.
• 17:41
  Not proven, buddy. That's well, yeah.
• 17:44
  Not beyond reasonable doubt. That's right.
• 17:45
  Do you think he did it? Oh, absolutely.
• 17:47
  I. Don't think so.
• 17:48
  OK, I'm just kidding. I don't think he did it beyond
• 17:51
  reasonable doubt, so I think they made the right call.
• 17:54
  All right. I don't know.
• 17:56
  Speaking of Canadian comedians. Norman MacDonald was fired for
• 17:58
  that very same thing. So, yeah, because the owner, the
• 18:01
  producer and executive, whoever, Don Olmeyer, was buddies with
• 18:04
  OJ, Yeah, had enough. My grandma taped it and she was
• 18:09
  a young and the rest of this fan, OK, She Clarence Thomas was
• 18:14
  another one. Yeah, sure.
• 18:15
  She would eat up these stories if she was alive today, this
• 18:18
  whole Trump thing, she'd be over the moon.
• 18:21
  She just. So was drama.
• 18:23
  The drama of these things, OK. And she was so enthralled with
• 18:27
  the OJ case. The I remember in high school,
• 18:31
  we watched the verdict. It brought in televisions to
• 18:34
  watch the verdict. Yeah.
• 18:36
  And the only correlation I have when I spoke about this with my
• 18:39
  mother was that in 1963, they watched the coverage of the JFK
• 18:46
  assassination, that they rolled in televisions into the
• 18:49
  carpeteria to watch the fallout and.
• 18:51
  That I could understand. That's the thing.
• 18:53
  It's 22 or three years later, and that was the next time that
• 18:56
  this kind of cultural event hit. Everybody needs to watch this
• 19:00
  one thing at this time. No offence to Nicole or the
• 19:04
  other guy, Ron Goldman. Yes, that's it.
• 19:07
  Yes, no offence to them. Sounds like a little bit, but
• 19:12
  it's it's tragic as it is, of course, but to bring that into a
• 19:14
  school I find surprising a little bit.
• 19:16
  It wasn't not in our school because I don't remember or I
• 19:18
  was skipping class. Do you have?
• 19:19
  Television in the country. Yeah.
• 19:22
  Yeah. Funny guy.
• 19:24
  Funny guy. Speaking of funny guys, OJ
• 19:27
  Simpson in this movie. What do you think?
• 19:29
  Funny guy? He's.
• 19:30
  That's the thing. In 88, I thought this is
• 19:31
  hilarious. Yeah.
• 19:33
  And in 98, I thought a little less funny.
• 19:38
  Well, you got to separate the man.
• 19:41
  Actually, you know, what's strange is actually what I think
• 19:43
  about OJ in this movie. It's almost fitting his first
• 19:49
  sequence that we introduce a man because again, this scene is
• 19:53
  hilarious. But what he gets is.
• 19:55
  A little bit of torture. This is hilarious.
• 19:57
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 19:58
  It's cake on the face. It's like, why is there birthday
• 20:02
  cake there? There's a bear trap.
• 20:05
  It's the best 1. And that's the one I remember.
• 20:07
  And it escalates. Bear trap is one of the last
• 20:10
  ones. Yes, it is.
• 20:11
  You know, a couple of the earlier ones.
• 20:13
  Well, he ends up with the window sill.
• 20:15
  He puts his hand on the window sill.
• 20:16
  It just. Puts, puts his hand on the
• 20:18
  fireplace, sits on the wet band and then goes Oh no.
• 20:23
  Yes, wet paints nothing. So yeah, it escalates to the end
• 20:26
  with the bear trap. Even kicking in the door right
• 20:29
  from the beginning and like waiting while he puts fidgets
• 20:32
  with the handle and. He's like, put down your guns.
• 20:34
  Yeah, there's 8 of them. One guy wipes.
• 20:38
  This is a showcase scene. This is a great way to start a
• 20:41
  comedy. Yes.
• 20:43
  We're like 5 minutes in. Yeah, you got a pretty solid
• 20:45
  prologue and they get this great scene.
• 20:48
  It's just hilarious. It really is.
• 20:50
  It's. That's the type of humor I like.
• 20:53
  Yeah. Silly, goofy stuff.
• 20:55
  Yeah. Like, just slapsticky, Yeah.
• 20:57
  You have the combination of deadpan and slapstick in the
• 21:00
  same movie. Yeah, I think that's a good
• 21:02
  point, right? Because you're getting big stuff
• 21:04
  happening with a straight face, and I think that's the trick.
• 21:07
  Yeah. And this movie does a great.
• 21:09
  Airplane does it great and Hot Shots does it great.
• 21:11
  I always like slapstick to a certain amount.
• 21:13
  I don't want to be like the driving force sure of a comedy
• 21:17
  personally, but what when they do it in these instances like
• 21:20
  this, it's just. Fantastic.
• 21:22
  Like an accent piece. But yeah, you're right, this is
• 21:24
  a showcase. Like this is just like the
• 21:25
  funniest stuff you can find. Speaking of big things happening
• 21:29
  with a deadpan and so forth, we have nothing bigger than an
• 21:33
  airplane. Arriving.
• 21:34
  Well, I mean, there's bigger things stuff out there.
• 21:36
  There's a. Big crowd arriving for this
• 21:38
  airplane and Dreven is dejected. He's coming back from a nice,
• 21:43
  relaxing trip to Beirut. Looking for peace?
• 21:46
  Looking for a little peace, which is again, just a little
• 21:49
  throwaway line that's really funny.
• 21:51
  But he gets to the mic and he's talks about how you, it's just
• 21:54
  right there. The podium just comes there.
• 21:57
  You come here to hear a hero's welcome.
• 21:59
  You come here to hear you know how hard it is because his wife
• 22:02
  left in Vic. Yeah, Victoria take No.
• 22:05
  Found a better lover, apparently, Yeah.
• 22:07
  He's best sex she's ever had. He's a tennis pro.
• 22:11
  But we got an introduction of Ed.
• 22:13
  Yeah. Who's I'm assuming in police
• 22:14
  squad. Yes.
• 22:15
  Yeah, and he has a responsibility to tell Nielsen
• 22:19
  about Victoria, about Victoria, which I think is really funny
• 22:22
  and also has to remind him that none of these reporters are here
• 22:26
  for him. Yeah.
• 22:26
  What are they here for? Weird Al?
• 22:28
  Yankovic. Yankovic.
• 22:30
  Which is funny because he's a parody.
• 22:32
  Yeah, for sure. In fact, he does the title song
• 22:36
  for Spy Heart. Yeah, OK, I probably would have
• 22:38
  remembered that had I seen it, if you thought about it.
• 22:40
  Yeah, I like Weird Al. He's great.
• 22:42
  Other than in UHF he's great deep in the arc.
• 22:47
  That's very deep and you need to watch that movie again because
• 22:50
  even I, unfortunately, I, you didn't love it.
• 22:52
  I undercut it when I watched it and I've watched it since and
• 22:55
  just thought why am I lying to myself and my family and
• 22:58
  friends? It's the only time I've ever
• 22:59
  been to convince you of your. It's the only time you manage to
• 23:02
  think, you know what, maybe Dave's right on this.
• 23:04
  Never again, never. That movie is great.
• 23:08
  I can't wait to get the 4K. Nonetheless, they're going to
• 23:12
  take a trip to the hospital they got to check in on on Nordberg.
• 23:16
  Before they check in on him, they got to check in on some
• 23:18
  boobs. Well, yes, yeah, that's another
• 23:21
  style of comedy. Sure as well you'd miss it if
• 23:24
  you're on your phone. That's true.
• 23:25
  I did not miss it. I did miss a couple of things.
• 23:27
  Not because I was on the phone, but I literally was distracted
• 23:29
  for a brief moment. And you can easily miss
• 23:32
  something. But yeah, he's talking about
• 23:35
  breasts. And then you see two things that
• 23:37
  essentially look like breasts with nipples.
• 23:39
  Yeah, he says. I can't.
• 23:40
  Get out of my mind. Everywhere I look, there's
• 23:42
  something reminds me. There it is.
• 23:43
  There it is. Yeah, that's how this instructor
• 23:46
  is a lucky man. Well, we don't know what
• 23:48
  Victoria looks like. Well, yeah, if she looks
• 23:50
  anything like those, she's OK. That's true.
• 23:54
  Now, a couple that is together still, luckily they've been,
• 23:58
  they've weathered storms, I'm sure is Nordberg and Nordberg's
• 24:01
  wife, Missus Nordberg? Missus Norberg, and even she
• 24:04
  calls him Norberg. Yes, which is what I love about
• 24:06
  this movie is it's able to come back scene after scene after
• 24:10
  scene and be consistently funny. Yeah.
• 24:12
  Yeah, there's a lot or two, sure, but right out of the gate,
• 24:15
  it's just continuous laughter. I love everything about this
• 24:20
  hospital scene A. 100% to begin with, my favorite line in almost
• 24:25
  any comedy. That's high praise.
• 24:27
  That is, I'm a little hyper. Well, is this hot take?
• 24:29
  A little hyperbolic, but but a line that I love.
• 24:32
  There's two in this movie that I've taken with me for a long
• 24:34
  time. The one in this makes me
• 24:36
  chuckle. I've used it in many different
• 24:38
  iterations. Is what's his prognosis?
• 24:42
  He's got a 5050 chance of dying, but only a 10% chance of.
• 24:46
  That, Yeah. And the look, even Leslie, even
• 24:49
  though he's usually the butt of it, Yeah, he gives him and a
• 24:51
  look. Like, I don't know.
• 24:53
  What are you talking about? And that's what, to me, what
• 24:54
  made it funny. Oh, sure was the look.
• 24:56
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 24:57
  Where's Nordberg, by the way? He's in the hospital.
• 25:00
  And nobody asks where is he? He's right there.
• 25:02
  Yes, those are the subtle lines in this.
• 25:05
  I didn't even get it now right. That's how subtle that line is.
• 25:08
  Really good. But I think what makes this
• 25:09
  scene generally fun, there's two parts, 2 parts that I think are
• 25:12
  hilarious. He's talking to Norberg and he's
• 25:15
  trying to tell him something and he's misunderstanding everything
• 25:18
  that he's saying. I love you, which is the name of
• 25:19
  the boat. That's right about the drugs,
• 25:22
  Thinking he wants drugs, heroin. Oh, I can get you some, but
• 25:25
  it'll take a couple days. Like, that was just all played
• 25:28
  perfectly by both, and I love it.
• 25:30
  And then he actually gives them some drugs and he's knocked out.
• 25:32
  Yeah. And then the second part is
• 25:35
  trying to make his wife feel better.
• 25:38
  Yeah. And just saying all the wrong
• 25:40
  stuff. Yeah, but without even knowing
• 25:43
  by a. Bear in the dead of the night.
• 25:44
  That's how I want to go. Right.
• 25:45
  Yeah, Parachute that doesn't open, Yeah.
• 25:48
  But some dignity. And then she just starts.
• 25:50
  Crying. That's big.
• 25:51
  Like, yeah. But then she's looking at him
• 25:54
  like all wondering what are you talking about when he's talking
• 25:56
  about the ways he wants to die. I know.
• 25:59
  It's just wonderful. It's such a refreshing style of
• 26:02
  comedy that I hadn't seen for a very long time.
• 26:04
  And it's got a great button because at the end of this
• 26:06
  scene, it's, it's classic misdirect, right where you've
• 26:09
  got Dreb and he's talking about how like, I will not rest.
• 26:12
  We're going to find this guy. We're not going to rest until a
• 26:14
  minute. That's what we got, something to
• 26:16
  eat. Yeah, that's the deadpan, that's
• 26:17
  the subtlety. That's the quick misdirection of
• 26:20
  comedy that it just works every. Time and I get the sense that
• 26:22
  was a lot of what happened in police squad.
• 26:24
  I have seen clips of that type of delivery of dialogue.
• 26:29
  Also the close-ups of people shooting at each other that goes
• 26:31
  into the wide shot and they're three feet apart behind garbage
• 26:34
  cans. Yeah, that's a funny gang.
• 26:36
  Whether you like it or not. It's.
• 26:37
  Fun. It's if I'm in the mood.
• 26:39
  If I'm in the mood. Sure, but it's such a silly
• 26:41
  component that you're like, yeah, that's just funny.
• 26:44
  Now, I would argue the next scene is questionably funny.
• 26:50
  This is the first scene where like, OK, the two previous
• 26:54
  scenes, this does not live up to what I've just seen.
• 26:57
  And that's OK because you can't do that.
• 26:59
  It's impossible to can't peek. That.
• 27:01
  Come on. Come on.
• 27:02
  Come on. We're men in our 40s we can't
• 27:03
  do. That no, Dante couldn't do it
• 27:05
  and he made a movie about his peak.
• 27:12
  Pierce Brosnan coming, coming to our show soon.
• 27:16
  Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I think so.
• 27:18
  He's in a church, but they're holding sort of just like press
• 27:21
  press conference, a pet that's hard to say.
• 27:24
  Press conference about the queen coming and they're on the detail
• 27:29
  that's. The big plot that you were
• 27:30
  talking about before, right you? Still have to have a plot.
• 27:32
  I don't care about it. No, but it has to exist of
• 27:34
  course. And his mic doesn't work, he
• 27:37
  gets a different mic. I wonder, before we get into
• 27:40
  specifics here, you work in live television.
• 27:43
  Have you ever had a similar type of situation?
• 27:46
  No, not. Like that sure it's a hot mic or
• 27:49
  anything. You've had a lot of hot mics and
• 27:51
  it's just like shut up. Like you're this, you're making
• 27:53
  the production harder to do because you should know better
• 27:56
  not to be talking while this is happening.
• 27:58
  So just annoyance wise, but not no good moments of comedy came
• 28:02
  out of it. Not to say it hasn't happened,
• 28:04
  I'm sure it has, but in my small sample size, No 3 minute pee and
• 28:08
  no three minute. Now this happens on like
• 28:10
  newscasts and things like that. People have been caught on hot
• 28:12
  mics. Probably got lots of jobs over.
• 28:14
  It absolutely. I think about not even hot mics
• 28:16
  in the modern age. We're dealing with hot teams
• 28:18
  cameras, remember? Yeah.
• 28:19
  Masturbations and like all of that stuff.
• 28:22
  You just think you're on your own.
• 28:24
  So weird. I am super paranoid about that
• 28:27
  if I'm on a conference call when I was at work or something or
• 28:30
  just and I had to go to the bathroom or something but I need
• 28:33
  to be on the call. I'm so nervous hyper like I
• 28:35
  double check it like it's same like seeing anything it's just
• 28:39
  the hearing it and like weird. Yeah, I know You're definitely.
• 28:42
  If you're masturbating during a meeting, you're the one that's
• 28:44
  going to mute it. I.
• 28:45
  Respect it or you want to get caught.
• 28:47
  Like you you're asking? For it yeah exactly yeah, it's
• 28:49
  crazy cry for help it's. Crazy the extension of that
• 28:51
  scene, but I I'll tell you in 88, as a nine year old I thought
• 28:55
  this was hilarious. Oh yeah, I would say.
• 28:57
  My mother loved it too. Yeah, this was just like a
• 28:59
  funny, funny scene. My only line I really like is
• 29:02
  whoops. But like, overall, I think this
• 29:06
  is a kind of a low part. I'm like, yeah, it's like you're
• 29:09
  saying you're laying out a story that I don't care about.
• 29:12
  Whatever. Yeah, but that's.
• 29:13
  Pretty good prostate though. Yeah, I guess so.
• 29:16
  I guess maybe some issues there, but not bad for good flow.
• 29:18
  Yeah, good flow for an older fellow.
• 29:20
  Didn't get to see the colouring so we don't know what he had for
• 29:23
  lunch. How hydrated he was.
• 29:25
  That's right. Now would you call someone that
• 29:28
  peasle? Would you call that a dinghy?
• 29:31
  Dinghy like is a small boat. Oh, you know, I I didn't get
• 29:34
  that. It's a small inflatable boat.
• 29:35
  Take a dinghy out to the murder scene.
• 29:37
  Never heard that. Yeah.
• 29:38
  So if you again, if you don't know, then it's not funny.
• 29:41
  And here's a huge blot hole. I have major issue right now.
• 29:44
  OK. And correct me if I'm wrong and
• 29:46
  I'll apologize right now on taped podcasting or three
• 29:50
  episodes from now when we actually realize.
• 29:52
  What happened? Do you do a chalk outline?
• 29:55
  If they haven't died, no. I didn't think so, No.
• 29:58
  Yeah. Because he's alive.
• 29:59
  Yes. He's also in the water, though.
• 30:01
  You need a joke. I mean, you have to do it
• 30:02
  because that's a great opportunity.
• 30:04
  Great joke. Yeah.
• 30:05
  It's funny. Yes.
• 30:06
  Yeah. Now, when you saw that, did you
• 30:08
  think that the killer was Jim? No.
• 30:11
  This is a deep Seinfeld reference.
• 30:13
  Yeah, yeah, Jim. Oh, yeah, it is.
• 30:15
  I was just laughing just at a fake it.
• 30:17
  Yeah, I was faking it. You guys was faking it.
• 30:19
  I did. I fake a lot.
• 30:22
  Fake, fake, fake. Well, Frank, we find out later,
• 30:25
  fake is every orgasm like Kramer.
• 30:27
  He faked it. Fake, fake, fake, fake.
• 30:30
  This little Elaine. Oh yeah, Elaine was the one
• 30:32
  faking, but Kramer admits to faking it if he wants to get up
• 30:35
  early in the morning. Great episode.
• 30:36
  Great episode. It is.
• 30:37
  Really. Yeah, it's a golden one.
• 30:39
  But yes, anyway, one of the few. Things of Seinfeld, like I
• 30:42
  distinctly remember, is that the guy must be.
• 30:45
  Yeah, and I didn't. I would and you missed it.
• 30:46
  I did. I missed it.
• 30:47
  Not about those moments. I have an off day.
• 30:49
  Because I don't care as much as you do.
• 30:51
  So when I catch it, I feel really cool.
• 30:53
  I got 1 and when you don't, I'm elevated.
• 30:55
  I'm on Cloud 9 right now. Elated.
• 30:58
  Elated. Elated.
• 30:59
  So now that I now that I've defined dinghy and the chalk
• 31:03
  outline, I've explained all of that.
• 31:04
  Appreciate it. Would you say that was worth 20
• 31:07
  bucks that information because. We're about to.
• 31:09
  Is that your segue? We're.
• 31:10
  Going to do a negotiation here. Is that worth 20 bucks?
• 31:13
  No, that's not. But the scene is, yeah, Worth at
• 31:17
  least 20 bucks because it's something relatable that they do
• 31:20
  in that world to get information.
• 31:23
  They don't want to talk. Give me 20 bucks, I'll start
• 31:25
  talking. Absolutely.
• 31:26
  But the fact that it goes the other way and the other guy
• 31:31
  wants information and gets gives them back and then he has to
• 31:33
  borrow 20 bucks, that's the best part.
• 31:35
  Yeah. Is Bobby 20?
• 31:36
  I don't think I should tell you. Yeah, I love comedies that have
• 31:40
  small scenes, little subtle that you just like, that's just
• 31:44
  funny. That's just.
• 31:45
  Yeah, it doesn't even a lot of explanation.
• 31:46
  That is a perfectly crafted joke.
• 31:48
  It's funny, it's recognizable. It's consistent with the not
• 31:52
  only the tone of the movie, but it's consistent with the real
• 31:54
  version of that. Like you're saying, the hard
• 31:56
  boiled detective drama from the 50s and 60s has that scene.
• 32:01
  Yeah. It just isn't played for laughs,
• 32:03
  and this movie gets to play it for laughs.
• 32:05
  And I think an advantage to watching a movie like this every
• 32:08
  once in a while is you can leave something at the door.
• 32:12
  Plausibility, sure, but I don't have to say, well, that wouldn't
• 32:15
  really happen, but you don't have to question things.
• 32:17
  We're safe for the next hour. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 32:20
  You can't. You're not basically allowed to.
• 32:22
  That would be a crime in itself. Say, well, wait a minute, that
• 32:25
  wouldn't actually that happened or something doesn't quite line
• 32:28
  up where the sun is up in Pearl Harbor and it should have been
• 32:32
  down. What time it doesn't work.
• 32:33
  Yeah. Yeah, this.
• 32:35
  Yeah, I don't you'll worry about any of that.
• 32:36
  I I didn't. I don't even care about the
• 32:38
  plot. Yeah, I know it's there, sure.
• 32:39
  And I'm paying attention. It's.
• 32:40
  What propels the story? But it's not about a story.
• 32:42
  It's about. A.
• 32:43
  It's not important if it doesn't add up.
• 32:44
  Yeah, and maybe it doesn't. I'd have to actually pay
• 32:47
  attention more to it watching it again, which I probably will of.
• 32:50
  Does the plot actually make sense?
• 32:53
  Is there a reason why he wants to kill the queen?
• 32:55
  Yes, Yep, there isn't really any motive.
• 32:56
  I don't remember if there if it was said.
• 32:59
  Not that I can remember. So again, that's how little it.
• 33:00
  Matters, Yeah. So it's a nice break.
• 33:02
  Yes, absolutely, absolutely. And after a long break, we get
• 33:05
  to see the return of God. Yeah, which?
• 33:10
  We haven't talked about in the episode a podcast, but my gosh,
• 33:14
  we've seen. How many times have you seen
• 33:17
  Wrath of Khan? This is the only other movie
• 33:19
  I've ever seen Ricardo Maltaban in.
• 33:21
  Yeah, I think he was something before Wrath of Khan.
• 33:24
  It was a forbidden sort of fantasy island.
• 33:26
  Yeah, on television. Let's look at some.
• 33:28
  Other movie too. Arabian.
• 33:30
  Something went to Arabia. Yeah.
• 33:33
  Wasn't it? I'm not sure.
• 33:34
  I don't know, but yeah, he's an iconic, similar to Lorraine
• 33:38
  Fletcher or Louise Fletcher, one of those two.
• 33:41
  Louise, yeah, who just has such an iconic role, maybe did some
• 33:44
  other things. Doesn't matter.
• 33:45
  He's always con, Yeah. And maybe Victor.
• 33:48
  I was talking to my brother who connected tissue.
• 33:50
  I'll give it to you this week, please, because con's in Star
• 33:53
  Trek. Louise Fletcher was in an
• 33:55
  episode of Star Trek to DS9 and she played a really cool, bad
• 34:00
  villain, and my brother was saying she just nailed it.
• 34:03
  That goes it's such a great role.
• 34:04
  He had known of her and oh, that's fun.
• 34:06
  That's great. Yeah.
• 34:07
  She's great at me. Yeah, Absolutely, brother.
• 34:08
  'S probably great too, but. Yeah, all right.
• 34:10
  He's fine. Decent taste, decent taste.
• 34:13
  Well, you know, a man with good taste, like fine Corinthian
• 34:16
  leather is Ricardo. Here we get to meet Victor.
• 34:22
  Ludlow, Ludlow, Ludwig. Ludwig.
• 34:24
  No relation to Chris. No.
• 34:26
  Or Craig. Or Craig.
• 34:27
  Sorry. It is Craig.
• 34:28
  Yes. No one else knows that but you.
• 34:29
  Yeah. Montreal Canadiens defenceman
• 34:31
  from the same era as this movie, actually.
• 34:34
  Exactly. He wouldn't have been playing
• 34:35
  for them then. Yeah.
• 34:35
  Very defensive defenceman. Yeah.
• 34:37
  He's great. Yeah.
• 34:37
  Yeah. 1 nothing. Stanley Cup.
• 34:40
  Maybe he won the Stanley Cup. Not because I am.
• 34:42
  No, this office scene is one that I it drags a little bit
• 34:45
  long, I have to tell you. But again, when you're dealing
• 34:48
  with a movie that's so quick paced, oh, my God, the fact that
• 34:51
  we have to wait a minute between a joke feels like it's a long
• 34:55
  time because we only had to wait 20 seconds.
• 34:56
  That's true. Yeah, that's funny.
• 34:59
  But the Japanese fighting fish and the samurai pen, I think it
• 35:03
  writes up. I imagine it would.
• 35:06
  Maybe not after he's done with it, no, but I I like this scene
• 35:10
  and the way in which only water will.
• 35:12
  It's impervious to everything except water.
• 35:15
  We know. What's going to?
• 35:16
  Happen and the priceless fighting fish like OK, I see
• 35:19
  what's going to happen here and the delivery and the pay off of
• 35:22
  this. Even if I think the line it
• 35:24
  takes a little while to get to. It's genius.
• 35:27
  There's two things in the scene I love the first.
• 35:30
  You bet you do. Yeah, when he's eating the the
• 35:34
  nose, it's just genius. You like?
• 35:36
  That one OK, I it's just that's fine.
• 35:37
  Yeah, we've. Talked so many times on movies
• 35:39
  where what is that thing that sort of sticks with you And even
• 35:42
  if you don't remember anything else and it's a look, it's a
• 35:44
  sound, it's a musical cue. It's something that out of
• 35:48
  context has stuck with you and everything else around it.
• 35:50
  You have no idea. That's a line that I remember
• 35:53
  obviously coming from the movie, but it is so apropos of nothing
• 35:57
  in my real life. But anytime I think of a good
• 36:01
  view or do you ever do this or do that, you bet you do, comes
• 36:04
  out of my mouth or at least in my head.
• 36:06
  Every single. Time.
• 36:07
  That's crazy. That's great.
• 36:09
  But I just love the culmination of all of this scene, this back
• 36:12
  and forth between the two and having him shake his hand.
• 36:16
  Yeah, with all the water coming. Out.
• 36:17
  I'm just like God this is so well played.
• 36:20
  And then we have this wonderful introduction to Jane, played by
• 36:23
  the great Priscilla Presley. No relation to Elvis, though.
• 36:28
  They just ex-wife. I was an ex-wife.
• 36:30
  Yeah. And they had a a child.
• 36:33
  Lisa. Lisa Marie, Princess of Pop.
• 36:36
  And similarly, Ivana Trump had some trouble with the stairs not
• 36:41
  to be a little. Dark, but yes, you know what if
• 36:43
  we're making OJ jokes a couple hours a couple minutes ago.
• 36:46
  I think it's OK to be intensive around anything with Trump.
• 36:49
  That's fair because you got that name insensitivity.
• 36:51
  Falls you. Yeah.
• 36:51
  Fuck yourself. You know what I mean?
• 36:53
  Totally. Fair Enough is enough.
• 36:55
  That's all I'm saying. Gloves are off.
• 36:57
  On off the shelf. Luckily, she springs back up.
• 37:00
  She's fine. Brushes herself off.
• 37:02
  Yeah. No problems there.
• 37:03
  Yeah, she's great. Gorgeous.
• 37:05
  Did have an anklet. And this is a joke.
• 37:07
  I've never really. Oh, where was it before?
• 37:09
  Yeah, those are left open to interpretations.
• 37:12
  When I was a kid, I think probably because I was naive and
• 37:15
  whatever but I still don't really get it.
• 37:17
  But I just assumed it was her necklace and that she's so
• 37:20
  slender that it ends up on her leg.
• 37:21
  But I'm like, I don't. Know as good as guesses any?
• 37:24
  Yeah, but I thought this is a sex joke.
• 37:26
  I I don't know, that's just my ignorance.
• 37:27
  Well, what is is a nice Beaver, which is funny because that term
• 37:31
  was used in a movie. We just.
• 37:33
  Watched Cuckoo. That's right.
• 37:35
  That's right. Yeah.
• 37:36
  So that was a term. In the 70s and 80s, absolutely
• 37:39
  that. I don't think it's used at all
• 37:41
  and I don't know why it was ever used.
• 37:43
  I don't know what a Beaver has to do with that.
• 37:45
  I think, you know, the Bush I think is what that is.
• 37:49
  And in the modern times, bushes aren't what they used as
• 37:52
  prevalent. And so I think the Beaver term
• 37:54
  is not really relevant anymore. Well, this is a stuffed.
• 37:58
  Beaver. And it's a beautiful Beaver.
• 38:00
  Yeah, this is another joke where it's like when I'm nine years
• 38:03
  old. I don't understand it, but I
• 38:05
  know it's funny. Even just like a couple of years
• 38:07
  later, I just had it stuffed. I'm like, that is a genius line.
• 38:11
  These are ones that I don't want too too many of.
• 38:14
  OK. But this movie has the right
• 38:16
  amount of that style of misunderstanding or misusing a
• 38:20
  term. That's something else.
• 38:21
  Is it the word play you don't like or the word play?
• 38:23
  The sexual, I don't think you'd want too much of either.
• 38:27
  Yeah, just keep it fresh. Sure.
• 38:29
  You know me? What?
• 38:30
  I think That's right. Keep it fresh.
• 38:33
  Parody. Foreign.
• 38:34
  Yeah. Keep it fresh, buddy.
• 38:36
  Good and fresh, that's all. What I find funny about this
• 38:38
  scene is obviously the visual gag.
• 38:41
  But the idea that they just something about going out for
• 38:44
  Viking food. Yeah, I don't think that's a
• 38:46
  thing. It's such a like an odd thing.
• 38:48
  It's just funny because it's funny.
• 38:50
  No one again, like he's random. Don't think about it, Don't ask
• 38:52
  any questions. It's just Viking food.
• 38:54
  But also how she needs to rest up because the big day tomorrow
• 38:58
  is Arbor Day. Yeah, Yeah.
• 39:00
  Not a big day at all. Like no.
• 39:02
  One cares. Maybe we'll take.
• 39:03
  Maybe we'll take a rain check. No, dinner's OK.
• 39:04
  Dinner's OK. Yeah, we don't want to do rain
• 39:06
  check. The word play in that is great.
• 39:07
  I thought the chemistry between the two is very, yeah, very
• 39:10
  clever. Like very good.
• 39:12
  I'd say I'm not going to argue with that, no.
• 39:14
  And I love chemistry. You love arguing.
• 39:17
  I don't think I do, no, because I don't ever win well.
• 39:19
  With me, I think you. Do but I think we can both agree
• 39:21
  one joke in this movie that is used a few times, but I think
• 39:25
  it's the right amount and because it escalates and it's
• 39:28
  already happened a couple of times in the movie, every time
• 39:30
  he parks his car, Oh yes, it's something as simple as hitting a
• 39:34
  hydrant. He knocks off the fisherman, if
• 39:36
  you remember. That's right, Harbour.
• 39:37
  He grabs the luggage cart as well.
• 39:39
  At the airport, right? Exactly.
• 39:40
  Yes, yes, that's kind of silly. Yeah.
• 39:42
  But this is where it just escalates to a point.
• 39:45
  It's just absolutely ridiculous. The airbags go off, causing it
• 39:50
  to go into gear and go down a hill, and then he starts
• 39:53
  shooting at it as if it's somebody getting away or it's an
• 39:55
  assailant. Yep.
• 39:56
  Anybody get the license plate? For the make of the car.
• 40:00
  He shoots at it and it blows up. Everyone's screaming.
• 40:03
  And then he realizes that his car.
• 40:06
  And it's the greatness of Leslie Nielsen's face.
• 40:09
  Yeah. Right, because we just talked
• 40:10
  earlier, Jim Carrey making a career on these elastic faces,
• 40:13
  all these, you know, whatever, driving, going from the
• 40:17
  curiosity and frustration of shooting to the complete
• 40:20
  bewilderment and awareness that he is, in fact, the culprit, as
• 40:25
  it were. Yeah, it's just beautiful.
• 40:27
  It's indicative to the things we just talked about over the last
• 40:29
  few weeks is you have to pay attention even in a comedy,
• 40:32
  right, Because you're thinking, well, it's not a plot heavy
• 40:34
  movie fluff. I can come and go.
• 40:36
  It doesn't really matter. Right.
• 40:37
  Bathroom breaks. Exactly.
• 40:39
  This isn't a hard drama that's going to have to, like, piece it
• 40:41
  all together. Yeah.
• 40:42
  But when he arrives back at the police station, there's 7 jokes
• 40:46
  that are happening. We see the big explosion of
• 40:48
  stuff we just talked about, but he goes in and we have a little
• 40:51
  bit of like a James Bond moment. Yes, Yeah, we have this Swiss
• 40:54
  Army shoe and it's not practical at all.
• 40:58
  Scissors or something. Yeah, it has the knife at the
• 41:00
  end. OK, I can see that maybe being
• 41:02
  useful. But then it has a scissor.
• 41:04
  Everything a Swiss Army knife has.
• 41:05
  That's right. But it's in a shoe.
• 41:07
  And then he has a little cuff length dart.
• 41:10
  Handy, turns out. Yeah, that's.
• 41:11
  Gonna play, but he just tested out on Ed.
• 41:14
  That's right. Oh, don't worry, he'll be up in
• 41:15
  a second. Why?
• 41:17
  Yeah, like why? Because you're gonna hit the
• 41:19
  floor. You're gonna hit your head.
• 41:21
  That's right. But one thing I did miss talk to
• 41:23
  me from the first time and I noticed that the second time I
• 41:26
  watched it was the graffiti bit. Oh yes, the anti graffiti while
• 41:29
  we're. It sprays them.
• 41:31
  Yeah, it's funny. I mean, it's not hilarious, but
• 41:33
  I was surprised that I had missed it I think.
• 41:35
  It's really clever. Well, it's clever like the whole
• 41:37
  like not just funny. I think it's like actually
• 41:39
  something that that's a good idea.
• 41:40
  That might be a pretty good idea.
• 41:41
  Yeah. And we haven't done this movie
• 41:43
  and we will in 93 Demolition Man with Stallone.
• 41:47
  Stallone. Yeah.
• 41:48
  Snipes. Yeah.
• 41:49
  Great. A movie I love.
• 41:50
  It's amazing, but I've seen it. I am pretty sure, I am pretty
• 41:54
  sure in that movie there is an anti graffiti situation as well.
• 41:57
  I'm not 100% positive. It's been a long time, but
• 42:00
  that's my memory of it. So it is like, I think it's like
• 42:02
  almost something that could be a thing.
• 42:04
  Yeah, it's just hard to spend the city's money on something
• 42:06
  like that. But it's indicative to me what
• 42:08
  that is, right? You blink your eye and you miss
• 42:11
  a hilarious joke. Yeah.
• 42:12
  So you have to be as closely paying attention to this movie.
• 42:15
  If not more. As you would Magnolia or the
• 42:18
  heavy long drama with OR or something like a clear and
• 42:21
  present danger where there's lots of characters and intrigue
• 42:24
  you. Those ones you have to pay
• 42:26
  attention to. This one is the same, just for
• 42:27
  different reasons. It's why movies are sometimes
• 42:29
  not a entirely A passive experience, at least not the way
• 42:32
  I watch them. You just try and shut out the
• 42:34
  world and lock in. Mr. Pap Smear now I I don't love
• 42:44
  that humor, so I don't love the whole Simpsons like we're Bart
• 42:47
  calls and and just MO to say his thing.
• 42:50
  So name play I've never been a huge fan of.
• 42:53
  That's fine. And sure, I'm not out.
• 42:55
  But everyone has their preferences.
• 42:56
  This movie kind of gives you a little bit of everything.
• 42:59
  Again, you're going to latch onto something.
• 43:00
  Something's going to make you giggle at the very least.
• 43:03
  But this is where we get the device that's going to cause
• 43:07
  some problems in the final 20 minutes of the movie.
• 43:11
  It's a bracelet of sorts that somehow we don't explain.
• 43:15
  It doesn't matter. You don't need it, but it'll get
• 43:17
  you to pick up a gun and shoot whoever you've been told to
• 43:19
  shoot. You've been brainwashed.
• 43:21
  Great episode MacGyver. Actually he gets amnesia and
• 43:24
  he's. Just a gun.
• 43:25
  Well, he almost shot Pete Thornton for God's sake.
• 43:28
  Luckily didn't happen figured out before.
• 43:31
  Sweeps. And the the secretary and she's
• 43:34
  great. She's great.
• 43:35
  She's small roles. Yeah.
• 43:36
  And they're obviously showing off this with Mr. Pap smear and
• 43:40
  this is their plan. Yeah.
• 43:41
  The idea that the greatest. Assassin doesn't even know
• 43:44
  they're an assassin. Exactly.
• 43:45
  That's actually a pretty clever. It's fun, yeah.
• 43:47
  Yeah, you. Can play with it again that
• 43:48
  works both sides. It opens up a.
• 43:50
  Lot of stories comedically, you get what we get here, but that
• 43:54
  plot not comedically like in a dramatic sense or a thriller,
• 43:57
  yeah, works just as. Well, it's been done.
• 43:59
  Yeah, it's been done. So I really think it's a clever
• 44:02
  way and it does up the ante. Every once in a while.
• 44:04
  We need a little piece and this is the next.
• 44:06
  Wave of it and the next scene is showing the use of it.
• 44:10
  Not the main use for it, but they got to get rid of OJ
• 44:13
  absolutely because he knows things and they thought he had
• 44:15
  died. The doctor, yes, something gets
• 44:18
  the bracelet on. Whatever, doesn't matter.
• 44:20
  And he's about to smother him with the pillow.
• 44:23
  Classic that. Throwing the pillow into Ian's
• 44:26
  face, even, like, struggling with it.
• 44:27
  It's the greatest. Yeah, it's so stupid, but it's
• 44:31
  funny. Stupid work.
• 44:32
  Again, there's a line between funny and stupid.
• 44:34
  Most of the time it's at least mildly funny.
• 44:37
  We did almost Heroes. There's a lot of stupid stuff in
• 44:40
  there that's funny, though. Well, I it's a lot of stupid
• 44:43
  stuff that I personally didn't connect.
• 44:44
  No, because we were, they weren't high.
• 44:46
  That was the problem. And this has stupid stuff where
• 44:48
  I'm like, that's funny. Yeah, most of the time, if not
• 44:51
  all the time. Yeah, you'd be amazed what some
• 44:53
  marijuana can do to enhance your enjoyment of a comedy like
• 44:56
  Almost Hero. Specifically this.
• 44:58
  I didn't need it and I'm fine. But this opens up a whole scene
• 45:02
  with this doctors. He jumps out the window.
• 45:04
  Yeah, big chase sequence, big chase.
• 45:06
  Sequence out of all cars he gets into a.
• 45:10
  Training driving lesson. Driving school Driving school I.
• 45:14
  Don't know why that was struggling come up with that
• 45:16
  term but driving school? Keep you on your toes buddy, you
• 45:20
  pass with flying colours. Indeed.
• 45:22
  She's a little nervous to start, so good.
• 45:24
  Go get him. Stephanie.
• 45:26
  Yeah. The only part of this section
• 45:28
  that I didn't really find that funny was the whole giving the
• 45:31
  finger. I get it.
• 45:32
  It's. Yeah, it's Rd.
• 45:34
  Roll Well, that and follow the instructor.
• 45:36
  So whatever he says. You're going to do but.
• 45:38
  But the constant upgrading to the threat of the Doctor running
• 45:41
  into a missile sent into a fireworks factory, like you just
• 45:45
  keep upping it. Totally the ridiculous of it.
• 45:48
  And Nope, nothing to see here. Great line.
• 45:50
  Yeah. Great line.
• 45:51
  It's a very Mimi thing Yeah, yeah, Mimi.
• 45:54
  When the rise of memes in the world, I had no idea what that
• 45:59
  was. And so I would read people in
• 46:01
  texts saying it's a great meme got you, but I didn't know what
• 46:05
  that was. And so I read it as Mimi and I
• 46:09
  was like, what does it mean? Oh, me, me.
• 46:10
  That's what you're talking about me.
• 46:11
  When you say Mimi, I'm thinking the Drew Carey Show with Mimi.
• 46:14
  OK, never watched it. No, that's not what surprised me
• 46:17
  whatsoever. Ryan Styles, come on.
• 46:18
  He's. A funny guy.
• 46:19
  Canadian. Yeah.
• 46:20
  No, he's not. He's ish Canadian.
• 46:22
  Ish Styles. He's got dual citizenship, I
• 46:25
  believe. OK.
• 46:26
  Mockery's Canadian. Yeah, sure.
• 46:27
  That's that's for sure. Yeah, 100% Canadian.
• 46:29
  Couldn't be less. Much like Leslie Nielsen, of
• 46:31
  course. Also good at the deadpan humor.
• 46:34
  Another thing we've talked about this, what I love about the
• 46:36
  movie is taking the genre right and playing with it and messing
• 46:39
  with the tropes a little bit. And the next scene is like
• 46:42
  exactly what that is you're thinking about in in a Dark
• 46:45
  Place or double Indemnity or any of these like 50s Noirie movies.
• 46:50
  There's the scene of walking around in the voice over, voice
• 46:53
  over and the way he's going on and on and, and the lonely man's
• 46:58
  kind of stuff and he's. A great voice question.
• 47:00
  Great. He's doing hopscotch and at some
• 47:03
  point he's like and where was I? He's up in the middle in the
• 47:05
  woods, almost. Exactly.
• 47:07
  So he's like, and why is Ludwig doing this?
• 47:09
  And why did they send me here and where was I?
• 47:12
  It's such a the crystallization of taking the genre we love and
• 47:16
  finding the humor in it and making it not funny, like it's
• 47:20
  not designed to be funny. Because all of that up until
• 47:22
  where was I in the hopscotch, I guess, is pretty much like what
• 47:25
  it would be in a movie. Yeah.
• 47:27
  Anyway, just makes me chuckle. And luckily, the payoff of that
• 47:29
  is a nice dinner date with Jane. Very provocative, yeah.
• 47:33
  Considering this is her first date, she's already somehow in
• 47:35
  the apartment, possibly not wearing pants.
• 47:38
  Probably not. Yeah, it's got the long shirt,
• 47:40
  that look, you know the look I'm talking.
• 47:42
  About oh gosh, I know it. What is she making?
• 47:44
  Stir fry. It's like a roast.
• 47:47
  Yeah. Maybe.
• 47:48
  Wet and hot roast. Yes.
• 47:50
  Yeah. Very wet.
• 47:52
  Yeah, very wet. Well, it's not long before
• 47:54
  things get a little steamy. Yes, absolutely.
• 47:57
  They both practice safe sex, which is good.
• 48:00
  And I promote that. I certainly don't condone it.
• 48:02
  No, I support it. Yeah.
• 48:05
  The culmination of safe sex being these life-size human
• 48:09
  sized condoms. Yeah.
• 48:10
  Then you have the exaggerated humor, which has a place, I
• 48:14
  think so, yeah. I don't think it's the funniest
• 48:16
  thing, but it's funny. It's.
• 48:17
  A little on the nose, but I think it's funnier.
• 48:18
  Is the Goodyear blimp story after?
• 48:20
  Yeah, No, it's the worst. That's word play I can get on
• 48:23
  board. Yeah.
• 48:24
  Yeah. And you're not a word guy.
• 48:25
  Sometimes. Sometimes I'm in the mood but
• 48:28
  what I am in the mood for, and I think you are too, Phillip and I
• 48:32
  completely forgot this movie would even have a montage.
• 48:35
  Oh gosh, yes, they're in love. 2 goodies, but this one.
• 48:38
  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I love this montage.
• 48:40
  Tell me about it. Well, in part, what I love about
• 48:43
  everything, exactly. Deep in the archive, Respect,
• 48:48
  Almost Famous. What I love about it is the
• 48:51
  song. First of all, something tells me
• 48:53
  I'm into something good in Herman's Hermits.
• 48:55
  They even showed at the end as as if they were watching.
• 48:57
  Videos as if we were watching videos.
• 48:59
  It's just a. Smart with Sam with the record.
• 49:01
  Great. Little button.
• 49:02
  I just think it's great. But watching these two, like you
• 49:04
  said, that she's in the apartment within hours of
• 49:07
  meeting him and now they're basically having an I'm we're
• 49:09
  we're so in love montage and the stuff that they've got them
• 49:12
  doing. My personal favorite out of all
• 49:15
  the things are happening again. I don't remember half of them.
• 49:16
  I'd have to watch it again because it's it's pretty quick
• 49:18
  cuts very fast, mustard on each other and then the bending.
• 49:22
  But my favorite, I think it's near the end, is they're on the
• 49:26
  beach and they cut to the beach a couple of times.
• 49:28
  They're holding hands. They're doing what you do on a
• 49:29
  beach with a loved one. I think you should know what I'm
• 49:32
  talking in Rocky Three. Yeah, Exactly.
• 49:33
  Exactly. And they basically clothesline
• 49:38
  the other couple doing sort of the same thing in slow motion.
• 49:42
  Just. I don't see it coming either.
• 49:43
  Like. What?
• 49:45
  Yeah. I just thought that part
• 49:47
  specifically was pretty hilarious.
• 49:48
  What I love is the tattoo for some reason, like the idea that
• 49:51
  within minutes of meeting these people, they're sitting and it's
• 49:54
  like a tight shot and they just go a little wider and they're
• 49:57
  both getting tattoos like this. It's so ridiculous that it just
• 50:00
  makes me chuckle, laugh and the big smiles throughout the whole
• 50:03
  time. And then ending with that is
• 50:05
  great and I believe the love, whatever you've just done there,
• 50:07
  I'm on board with the fact that I think that they're in love
• 50:11
  now. There's no reason to question
• 50:12
  it. I like it that he does the Irish
• 50:15
  heel kick. Have you ever?
• 50:15
  Done one of those. No, me neither I've.
• 50:17
  Tried because I think it's really cool I'm Cuban yeah there
• 50:20
  you go that's how that works we can't spend too much time in the
• 50:23
  romance because there's a crime that's true solve.
• 50:27
  Yep, that possibly could have been done by Nordberg.
• 50:30
  He's remember, he's he's got 24 hours.
• 50:32
  He's. DL and H.
• 50:33
  Yeah, but those are the stakes. Absolutely.
• 50:35
  You got to find out the truth or it's Nordberg.
• 50:37
  Yep. They think it might be him
• 50:39
  because we don't know why he was there in the 1st place at the
• 50:41
  harbor, which is kind of silly because he's a police officer.
• 50:44
  He's a. Constigating.
• 50:45
  Everyone should know. Yeah, yeah, I'm OK.
• 50:47
  With it though, yeah, no question.
• 50:49
  He's in. Ricardo Balta bombs.
• 50:51
  I'm saying that right. Balta bomb, bomb apartment and
• 50:54
  all the elegant stuff that we've already.
• 50:56
  The big vases. Yeah, everything.
• 50:58
  And he finds evidence. It's the most like specific.
• 51:02
  Yeah, I mean, here's how I will kill the queen.
• 51:05
  Exactly what you have to do that way.
• 51:07
  Go all in. Right?
• 51:07
  Totally. And he can't see it.
• 51:09
  So he got like, he's got the lighter, of course, burns the
• 51:11
  only evidence, of course, of course.
• 51:14
  And a fire ensues. He's trying to stop the vases
• 51:17
  from falling. And the whole place is just in
• 51:19
  shambles. Within like 30 seconds, it just
• 51:22
  massacred like everything that this guy loves, like the
• 51:25
  painting comes down priceless. Everything.
• 51:28
  It's a disaster and ends up on the balcony.
• 51:30
  Yeah, I have to tell you, this was a scene you.
• 51:34
  Got balcony problems? That I hated.
• 51:35
  You don't like balcony scenes? I don't mind balcony scenes.
• 51:38
  I don't know why when I when I when I watched this movie as a
• 51:42
  kid, this is the only part of the movie I felt drags and it's
• 51:46
  the only jokes in the movie. I don't find that funny.
• 51:48
  OK, that's that's fine. Like and I'm not holding against
• 51:51
  all, but watching. I think you are.
• 51:54
  History is proven this. Is not the case.
• 51:56
  On this podcast, but jokes about hanging on to the big Dicks and
• 52:00
  like making motions to to. That I liked.
• 52:03
  Yeah, to get on. That was funny.
• 52:04
  Climb up onto it. Yeah, the fact that it becomes
• 52:07
  an erection like I mean, there's.
• 52:09
  Funniness in it, like you said. Smile on his face.
• 52:11
  The statue. There are things that are that
• 52:13
  like you connect with that are funny and there's things that
• 52:15
  are funny objectively and there's things that are like
• 52:18
  subjectively funny. I look at that, I see that that
• 52:20
  is funny or could be, it's just not my humor.
• 52:23
  And I find the jokes are not enough to sustain for as long as
• 52:27
  the scene is from all the way through the apartment into the
• 52:31
  balcony and out. I'm like that's 7 or 8 minutes.
• 52:34
  It's the dry part of the movie to me.
• 52:36
  Oh, OK. Well, it's 4 minutes.
• 52:38
  OK, All right. Actually, I don't remember.
• 52:39
  But that that woman, beautiful breasts.
• 52:41
  That is true. That is true.
• 52:42
  Maybe. Is that enough for you?
• 52:44
  Yeah. Then unless the fire trucks are
• 52:47
  coming. He gets out of it, of course,
• 52:48
  and Jane sets up a meeting. That's right.
• 52:53
  With him and. On Ludwig's orders.
• 52:56
  Yes. To go meet him at the meat
• 52:57
  packing plant meat. Packing.
• 52:59
  Plant. They make hot dogs, it turns
• 53:01
  out. I guess so, we find out later.
• 53:04
  Oh, yes, that's what that is. Thank you.
• 53:07
  I wonder. I thought it was just like a
• 53:09
  joke. It is a joke.
• 53:10
  Yeah. Well, it's a comedy.
• 53:11
  Of course, yeah. Yeah, you haven't noticed.
• 53:14
  Anyway, he gets there and the guy just starts talking and
• 53:17
  shooting. I got a message, yeah.
• 53:19
  Yeah, just keep shooting. And he's like, stop shooting.
• 53:23
  I can't hear you. I think it's a cute.
• 53:26
  It's the funny line, Perfect, cute.
• 53:27
  It's a perfect crystallation of like, that scene has happened in
• 53:30
  100 other movies. And as an audience, we just
• 53:34
  accept it because they will adjust the volume so we hear
• 53:36
  what they're saying or whatever. And here's just like, calling it
• 53:39
  out, like, I can't hear you. Yeah.
• 53:41
  A funny way to look at a scene that we're all familiar with.
• 53:44
  And it's like a Seinfeld thing where you're like, I see this
• 53:47
  all the time, and now it's funny.
• 53:49
  And it was always funny, but I never saw it.
• 53:51
  Yeah. And now that I see it and you've
• 53:53
  seen it and made it funny, it's communal.
• 53:55
  It's forever funny. Yeah, we're all enjoying the
• 53:57
  moment now. That's it.
• 53:58
  Laundry. Seinfeld does so great.
• 54:00
  Laundry. We're all enjoying that moment.
• 54:01
  It's. Like we've all had this
• 54:02
  conversation about laundry and socks to ourselves or maybe
• 54:04
  laughter. We've where the Hell's and you
• 54:07
  turn it into a 3 minute bit. Yeah.
• 54:09
  And now it's like I can't lose a sock without thinking we gotta
• 54:13
  get out of here. Yeah.
• 54:14
  That's the genius of him. And that's the genius of this
• 54:16
  type of taking the genre and finding the humor in a scene
• 54:19
  that wouldn't otherwise be funny.
• 54:21
  And it ultimately kills the guy. That is funny.
• 54:23
  Well, I mean, what I found funny actually was that when he died,
• 54:27
  they've got the classic sinking hand, of course, in the and
• 54:31
  what? Terminator 2 maybe?
• 54:32
  Terminator 2 in 91 Batman maybe, but Joker in 89, that's the next
• 54:37
  year and if you're the Joker ends up going down the same.
• 54:40
  They're doing a parody of that could be.
• 54:42
  I thought it was kind of. Parody of a parody.
• 54:44
  A year later, yeah. So a lot of sinking hands.
• 54:47
  Yeah. That was the time for that.
• 54:48
  Yeah. It was a real zeitgeist thing.
• 54:50
  Hands were sinking, Hands were sinking, and nobody noticed
• 54:53
  until, with some hindsight, now we can finally absolutely see it
• 54:57
  for all. That's worth, and what's worth a
• 55:00
  lot is a plate at a dinner with the queen.
• 55:02
  I'm sure that's a couple bucks. Absolutely.
• 55:05
  If you didn't know already, Ricardo is the chairman.
• 55:08
  Yes, of course. And the next scene is Drebin
• 55:11
  coming in, and Ricardo's a little surprised to see him.
• 55:14
  But before we get that, we get a really funny scene.
• 55:16
  They're doing a pat down, just patting people down.
• 55:19
  Someone's in front of Ed. Yep.
• 55:22
  And then he's searching the pockets, but he's in the Ed's
• 55:24
  pockets. Who's behind the guy?
• 55:27
  He's finding Ed's stuff. Ed's wallet.
• 55:28
  He's got a gun, A picture of sleeping with your wife, Ed's
• 55:31
  wife. It's such a simple thing, but I
• 55:33
  just thought it was really funny.
• 55:34
  It's another example of don't think too hard because Ed would
• 55:37
  know that he's in his pocket. Yeah, like if you really think
• 55:40
  about it, but it's just too funny to to worry about.
• 55:42
  It and at some point Dreben is disoriented a little bit and
• 55:46
  sees that musket looks like it's pointing at the queen.
• 55:49
  He jumps on the queen, slides all the way down the table.
• 55:52
  Yeah, and that's the picture in the front news.
• 55:55
  Right there, that's the end of it.
• 55:57
  And then the joke is like, this is news.
• 55:58
  Like, come on, hear. Me, it's pretty, pretty
• 56:00
  newsworthy, I would say, trying to hump the Queen at a.
• 56:03
  Press conference. But this ultimately gets him
• 56:05
  kicked off the force. Yeah.
• 56:08
  And what does he find when he's cleaning out his, his his desk?
• 56:14
  He's going through the folder and he says, oh, it's the
• 56:17
  missing evidence. He was innocent, He.
• 56:21
  Got the chair two years ago and. He's like, whatever, he throws
• 56:25
  it away and he starts throwing stuff away.
• 56:27
  All these commendations and pride and awards.
• 56:29
  It's not your desk. It's not your desk, right?
• 56:32
  Stop. Great scene, small, great scene.
• 56:36
  It's really good. And this movie is so tight.
• 56:39
  Oh my God. We're 20 minutes before the end
• 56:41
  of the movie at this point, and we're at the baseball diamond.
• 56:44
  It's 87 minutes long or something and it's just like
• 56:47
  stadium, sorry. Diamond's more of a, you know.
• 56:50
  More of like a ballpark. Kids in a ball diamond.
• 56:53
  Pearl Harbor you want to get to. AI was thinking about that movie
• 56:57
  and I was reminded how good it is just by thinking of it.
• 56:59
  Just thinking about it's like this movie does everything.
• 57:01
  Wow, gets to the episode again. You let me.
• 57:03
  Know it makes you feel, man. It makes you feel.
• 57:05
  Yeah, I feel. I'll.
• 57:06
  Yeah, I feel. Dread, but this movie definitely
• 57:10
  makes you laugh. But yes, we're setting up the
• 57:12
  final 20 minutes of this movie. This movie is only an hour, 20
• 57:16
  minutes. That's.
• 57:16
  What I'm saying 87 minutes. Easy breezy.
• 57:18
  I'm going to go out on a limb here and say your favorite scene
• 57:21
  is coming up. Oh, absolutely.
• 57:22
  Yeah. It's a sequence even.
• 57:24
  A sequence, your favorite sequence slash scene is
• 57:27
  approaching us. We're not quite there yet.
• 57:29
  Everything about the baseball presentation now, I don't know
• 57:33
  anything about baseball. No, you don't.
• 57:35
  But the idea that you've got a seven man booth, including
• 57:38
  Doctor Joyce Brothers, yeah, that's exaggeration.
• 57:41
  Noted Sex therapist like, tells me that there's probably too
• 57:45
  many people in the booth. Yeah.
• 57:47
  But Dreben, who's off the force, for all intents and purposes,
• 57:50
  he's got to get in there. He's.
• 57:52
  Got to find a way. So what do you do?
• 57:54
  You find the closest soprano? Yeah, you try and find them.
• 57:59
  Not the family. No, no, no, not a not a
• 58:01
  Gandolfini singer surviving Christmas.
• 58:03
  Fans, of course that's my fault. That's my fault.
• 58:06
  You brought it on yourself. Yeah, and he's going to do the
• 58:08
  national anthem. That's right, Enrique Palazzo.
• 58:11
  Yeah, and doesn't know most of the words.
• 58:13
  So good, but the words he uses is hilarious.
• 58:16
  It's fantastic. Yeah, it's great.
• 58:17
  It's funny that anytime anybody's messed up in a
• 58:19
  national anthem is always funny. But what I also like is the
• 58:22
  subtlety of all the cops trying to arrest him, but also trying
• 58:27
  to respect the song. Yeah.
• 58:28
  OK, you have to wait so. They're like inching closer and
• 58:30
  closer, but hands on the heart still it's.
• 58:33
  Just like a great visual gag. And then obviously he finishes
• 58:36
  and runs off into the dog out again and swaps out from tenor
• 58:40
  to umpire. Yes, they know that someone on
• 58:44
  the field is going to kill the queen or try.
• 58:47
  That's right, in the 7th inning stretch, yes.
• 58:48
  That's all the information they got.
• 58:50
  That's it. Can't prove it.
• 58:51
  That's what they have. Stop it.
• 58:53
  Yeah. What I think is really funny too
• 58:55
  is while he's in this changeover from what we don't know yet,
• 58:59
  he's run away as the opera singer and we're watching the
• 59:01
  Jumbotron. Oh yeah.
• 59:04
  And now, as a sensitive man with sensitive comedic tastes, did
• 59:08
  you enjoy any of. The the misplays, Broad, the
• 59:12
  misplays. The mall of a tiger on the field
• 59:16
  again. The car, I think, yeah, it's
• 59:17
  designed to escalate, right? It starts out as what you'd
• 59:20
  actually see on TV today. Yeah.
• 59:21
  Bloopers run into each other. Absolutely.
• 59:24
  And then we get into the tiger at second base.
• 59:27
  The car comes before that, of course.
• 59:28
  I think a car is the first. One it could be.
• 59:30
  And I love it. I mean, the guy where he loses
• 59:33
  his head, that's just all in silliness.
• 59:35
  But yeah, that serves his purpose.
• 59:37
  What I love after that, all of that is.
• 59:38
  How about that? And the guy next to him is just
• 59:41
  like, shocked but presenting it like it's just baseball.
• 59:45
  Yeah, How about that Great plays out there.
• 59:46
  A guy just got mauled by a tiger.
• 59:48
  It's really. How far are the writers?
• 59:50
  They want to take it, right? Like it's.
• 59:51
  They're in a room and they just keep amping it up until they get
• 59:54
  to the point of ridiculousness. And as long as they're not doing
• 59:57
  it too often, it's always too ridiculous.
• 59:59
  I think you have to pick and choose.
• 1:00:01
  Your moments, and this movie in particular has done pretty well.
• 1:00:04
  Yeah, I think the movie does a great job of building up the
• 1:00:06
  escalation of jokes and silliness and then releasing the
• 1:00:09
  valve and going back to simple, and then building it back up to
• 1:00:11
  silly gross, and then releasing the valve and getting it back to
• 1:00:14
  simple. I think the head off is
• 1:00:16
  probably, I think a little. I wouldn't gone that far, sure,
• 1:00:19
  but that's just me. That's just you.
• 1:00:20
  That's just me. I can ignore that and still
• 1:00:22
  enjoy the rest. Of course, I am a horror movie
• 1:00:24
  fan. I would have liked more blood
• 1:00:25
  and guts. Of course, if you're going to
• 1:00:26
  cut someone's head off, let's make it count.
• 1:00:29
  Absolutely. Find out Driven the umpire.
• 1:00:39
  He's the umpire to the plate umpire, that's right.
• 1:00:41
  And he doesn't know what he's doing.
• 1:00:42
  He has no idea. First pitch comes in right down
• 1:00:44
  the middle. Yeah, he's not making a call.
• 1:00:47
  Nope. And then everyone's looking at
• 1:00:48
  him too, the whole crowd, and he's like straight question
• 1:00:50
  mark. Yep.
• 1:00:52
  Crowd loses their minds and this begins the best scene of the
• 1:00:55
  movie. Arguably, arguably, I do enjoy
• 1:00:57
  it. His reactions to oh gosh, like
• 1:01:00
  the first one, he's late on, right?
• 1:01:01
  Yep. Second one, I don't know if he's
• 1:01:03
  already early on it. I think he, he, it's right on
• 1:01:06
  time, right? On time and then the third one,
• 1:01:08
  by the time the ball is barely left the glove, he has deer.
• 1:01:14
  Right, and he starts doing the dancing more.
• 1:01:16
  Elaborate. It's not just strike.
• 1:01:17
  Yeah, it's now a big presentation.
• 1:01:19
  Moon walking splits up and down everything he's doing in this
• 1:01:24
  scene as the UMP is absolute. It's stunt double.
• 1:01:28
  Sure, pure genius. Whatever.
• 1:01:30
  My type, if you can call it my type of comedy.
• 1:01:33
  It is that it is right here. It is him getting off on the
• 1:01:35
  excitement of making the calls. Crowd loves the crowd the.
• 1:01:38
  Plate going from like the broom to a dust.
• 1:01:40
  Buster, I love vacuuming. You're a vacuum guy.
• 1:01:42
  I just vacuumed today for me too hours.
• 1:01:45
  Well, I went in hours, but I did a did a full on mop and vacuum.
• 1:01:48
  But yeah, just dust Buster to the full on dirt devil.
• 1:01:51
  I think it was product placement perhaps?
• 1:01:54
  It could be, could be it's just perfect and he's searching the
• 1:01:56
  players as they're coming up. And then that leads to the
• 1:01:59
  second montage of the movie, the I Love LA montage.
• 1:02:03
  So I love Herman's Hermits and I love Randy Newman.
• 1:02:05
  And we get just more of him trying to figure out who is the
• 1:02:10
  culprit and when he goes to search.
• 1:02:13
  The the pitcher now. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:16
  Those are things that you're not allowed to have.
• 1:02:17
  Vaseline. Yeah.
• 1:02:18
  And sandpaper. That's a big one.
• 1:02:20
  Yeah. That's common, right?
• 1:02:22
  That's a thing. Well, yeah.
• 1:02:23
  It's like to give you the edge. Absolutely.
• 1:02:25
  And he doesn't care, obviously. No.
• 1:02:27
  And the pitcher's like, oh, OK, great.
• 1:02:29
  Yeah. And then we get into a rundown.
• 1:02:30
  Now that's a very exciting play in baseball.
• 1:02:33
  Well, not really. 90% of the time he's out if the runner
• 1:02:37
  slash batter if he beats the rundown.
• 1:02:39
  That's impressive. OK.
• 1:02:40
  Yeah, but doesn't happen very often.
• 1:02:41
  Does it happen with umpires often?
• 1:02:43
  No, because this is another great scene that somehow from
• 1:02:47
  the plate the plate umpire has managed to get to.
• 1:02:50
  Yeah, things are getting a little out of control at this
• 1:02:52
  point. The crowd is on them now.
• 1:02:54
  The players, the coaches are all like, what the hell is going on
• 1:02:57
  here? They can't have it out exactly
• 1:02:58
  because they can't get to the 7th inning stretch.
• 1:03:00
  And the other umpire has taken umbrage, if you will.
• 1:03:02
  Yeah, he doesn't want any part of this other.
• 1:03:04
  No. But then what is Leslie
• 1:03:06
  Nielsen's character do? He throws.
• 1:03:07
  You're out of here. He throws out another umpire.
• 1:03:09
  I guess so. As long as you know baseball,
• 1:03:11
  you're gonna get a lot of this joke.
• 1:03:13
  I barely know baseball and you know that.
• 1:03:15
  This. Yeah.
• 1:03:15
  Well, you're a smart guy. It's true.
• 1:03:17
  You're smart. Extra.
• 1:03:18
  Yeah, you're not slow. Ends up in a full out brawl.
• 1:03:22
  That's right. And then me and Reggie Jackson.
• 1:03:25
  Do you know Reggie Jackson? Is he not personally?
• 1:03:27
  Not personally. He is.
• 1:03:29
  Is he a name? 88, yeah.
• 1:03:31
  Like he's like this guy somebody.
• 1:03:32
  He's before me mostly, but I know of him.
• 1:03:35
  But I didn't really watch him. He just probably retired when I
• 1:03:39
  got into watching the Expos and the Jays.
• 1:03:42
  But yeah, he's iconic. He's a big name.
• 1:03:43
  I don't know baseball. I don't know any of.
• 1:03:45
  These but you know Reggie. I only know him through this
• 1:03:47
  movie. Yeah, he's great.
• 1:03:48
  So to me, if you're casting somebody that's a baseball
• 1:03:50
  player that's actually a baseball player, they're
• 1:03:52
  probably a name. Yeah.
• 1:03:53
  The credits. Yeah.
• 1:03:54
  Reggie Jackson as as himself. I meant more like a noteworthy.
• 1:03:58
  OK. Oh, he's definitely noteworthy.
• 1:03:59
  And he gets out of the scrum. Yeah.
• 1:04:01
  Kind of tunnels his windows. And got the gun, obviously, of
• 1:04:05
  course. Makes sense in the second base.
• 1:04:06
  Yeah, walking towards the Queen. To me, this is the flaw of the
• 1:04:10
  movie. I'm going to nitpick.
• 1:04:13
  Right, okay. If the mission is to kill the
• 1:04:15
  queen, Yeah. And you got a gun in your hand.
• 1:04:18
  Yeah, why do you need to be 6 inches away from the queen?
• 1:04:20
  Reggie, you got a gun. He might have a good eye for the
• 1:04:23
  ball. But wants to be.
• 1:04:26
  Sure, but he's not very good at aiming.
• 1:04:27
  Yeah, yeah, it's funny to me. Ironically, Again, I don't care,
• 1:04:30
  I'm just teasing, But the idea that he continues to get closer
• 1:04:33
  and closer and closer to the Queen, and no one's, like,
• 1:04:35
  checking why there's a baseball player on top of the dugout now.
• 1:04:38
  Like, anyway, yeah, it's a little silly.
• 1:04:41
  Yeah, this movie's a little silly.
• 1:04:42
  It's only in that part where I'm just like just shooter.
• 1:04:44
  It might be a a glitch in the bracelet programming.
• 1:04:47
  Could be where there's a vicinity issue with it.
• 1:04:50
  Yeah, it's the first model, so it's true.
• 1:04:53
  Yeah. But luckily Dreven stops him,
• 1:04:55
  thanks to the handy dandy. Yeah.
• 1:04:57
  Hits a woman. Oh, yeah.
• 1:04:58
  Three stories up. A larger lady.
• 1:05:01
  Sure. Heavy set, as my dad would say.
• 1:05:03
  How are her breasts? Proportions, I imagine, and
• 1:05:08
  falls on Reggie. That's right, saves the day,
• 1:05:10
  saves the queen. And the woman who got him fired
• 1:05:13
  is like, you're the hero, of course.
• 1:05:15
  And who better to save the day than Enrico Palazzo?
• 1:05:18
  Yeah, everyone's chanting that name being the tenor.
• 1:05:21
  But then we see Ricardo dragging up not Jane, but a dummy, so
• 1:05:27
  much a dummy. And it's such a thing that you
• 1:05:29
  could not have bothered to do. And it's so it's not a big
• 1:05:32
  thing, but it's funny. Yeah.
• 1:05:34
  It's a choice, but the exaggerated motion is designed
• 1:05:36
  to highlight the fact that these things are often double s or
• 1:05:40
  whatever else, right. Watching her get just thrown
• 1:05:43
  around as they're making their way up up the stairs, it's
• 1:05:45
  pretty funny stuff. And we basically have our final
• 1:05:48
  confrontation. Yeah, when it gets a little
• 1:05:50
  sappy, a little bit right where he's like, you don't like J and
• 1:05:54
  that. You don't like sappy at all?
• 1:05:55
  I I'm a sappy guy. I know that's the joke.
• 1:05:59
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:06:00
  But I'm in this context, you know?
• 1:06:02
  No, maybe not in this. Let's get to the end.
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  Yeah, I'm ready for the movie to end.
• 1:06:06
  OK, well, we have not quite a die hard one death scene, but
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  you know, splat, eh? He's.
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  Flat and then, coincidentally, is a steamroller and a marching
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  band and. Did that happen to Ed's dad?
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  Watching, Ed reacted. Yet.
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  Oh, Frank, that's not my that one.
• 1:06:24
  Go on. It's kind of dumb.
• 1:06:26
  It's so dumb, but all that happening, that bracelet device
• 1:06:29
  thing, it goes off because they step on it and now she's
• 1:06:32
  triggered triggers. Jane and Frank's got to talk her
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  out of it. Yeah.
• 1:06:35
  And that's a pretty good job of it.
• 1:06:36
  You do it well. Yeah, he has.
• 1:06:37
  These are our hill. This is our beans.
• 1:06:39
  Yeah, that's a Casablanca. Right it is, remember.
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  Absolutely. Yeah, I'm sure.
• 1:06:42
  Yeah, great. Great moment.
• 1:06:44
  Not a very memorable ending. Personally.
• 1:06:45
  No, but no, like I don't really remember once he's dead.
• 1:06:49
  That's the thing. I don't recollect it even like.
• 1:06:51
  All that savvy stuff, I'm like, I'm done with this movie.
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  And not in a bad way. Like that's the end.
• 1:06:55
  I I do feel they have something. Oh, absolutely.
• 1:06:57
  I'm happy for them. Yeah, they'll be wrong.
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  I'll. I'll send the toaster.
• 1:07:01
  Yes, on the registry. I'm there.
• 1:07:02
  Why is it always the toaster? That's what I always go for,
• 1:07:04
  toasters. That's it.
• 1:07:06
  I just, I got to the end of this movie and I was like, I'm done.
• 1:07:09
  We're not done. Talk to me.
• 1:07:11
  OJ that's right. It's finally out of the
• 1:07:12
  hospital. Yeah, OJ makes his way to the
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  game. Back, I guess, and then he's
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  flung. That's right.
• 1:07:20
  Poor guy. Just like a spring loaded.
• 1:07:23
  Would you ever say poor guy to OJ Simpson?
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  Like, oh man, this guy's been through bad stuff.
• 1:07:28
  He had a rough go. Poor guy.
• 1:07:30
  Yeah, yeah, he wrote a book about this movie.
• 1:07:34
  Oh yeah, no, he didn't. OK, I was trying to connect.
• 1:07:36
  I'd read that. If I did it, he didn't write
• 1:07:38
  that. Book.
• 1:07:39
  He did write that, Yeah. Did he do it?
• 1:07:40
  Hypothetically speaking, if I were to, if I want to do it,
• 1:07:43
  this is how I would have done it.
• 1:07:44
  But I didn't do it. Don't worry about it.
• 1:07:46
  Well. We'll never know.
• 1:07:48
  Wow. We'll never know.
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  Truth. It's lost to the time.
• 1:07:51
  Maybe. Kato Kaelin.
• 1:07:52
  Knows. Oh gosh, yeah, he knows too
• 1:07:54
  much. Anyways, Phil, give me your
• 1:07:55
  final thoughts of this adventure that we've gone off for an hour
• 1:07:59
  and 20. Minutes that's right, I I've not
• 1:08:01
  seen this movie in so long and I was so not interested in
• 1:08:06
  watching the remake yeah yeah. The trailer like I in context
• 1:08:11
  content, I was like, I don't give a damn.
• 1:08:13
  And then when you suggested this, I was like, oh, I haven't
• 1:08:16
  watched this movie in 30 years and I put it in and immediately
• 1:08:20
  I was like right back into it lasted and I was like, this is a
• 1:08:23
  fucking hilarious. Movie aged so well.
• 1:08:25
  So well, despite the fact that some of this stuff like the
• 1:08:28
  beginning, the prologue, people you may or may not recognize,
• 1:08:30
  but the jokes are funny. Always.
• 1:08:32
  Yeah, I enjoyed this movie The most this time, yeah, I've aged,
• 1:08:36
  it's matured. I've matured in some ways.
• 1:08:38
  But the question remains, are you more inclined to watch the
• 1:08:43
  Liam Neeson Naked Gun? No, no, it's strange that way.
• 1:08:47
  I heard it's pretty good. I keep hearing that and I just
• 1:08:50
  don't trust it. What?
• 1:08:51
  I want you to do a little bit of homework for you, OK?
• 1:08:53
  Watch the Naked Gun, the original, the one that we just
• 1:08:56
  watched. Watch the trailer.
• 1:08:58
  OK. Interesting to see if that
• 1:08:59
  excites despite. To see if it's.
• 1:09:01
  Actually, I know it's great. And then?
• 1:09:02
  Yeah, because maybe it's a trailer problem with this type
• 1:09:04
  of movie. Could be I mean, comedies are
• 1:09:06
  tough to sell anyway. Yeah, either the jokes are all
• 1:09:09
  in giving away the whole movie or not.
• 1:09:10
  I don't know. I'm.
• 1:09:10
  Going to watch it. I'm going to watch it.
• 1:09:12
  I'll I don't know if I'll pay for it, but it's 499 rental, I
• 1:09:15
  think. I don't know.
• 1:09:17
  But I just have 0 interest in it.
• 1:09:18
  But watching this, I'm like, I'll watch 22 1/2. 2 1/2 men.
• 1:09:23
  No Naked Gun 2 1/2 probably before I would watch.
• 1:09:28
  Yeah, that I don't know if it's one of those sequel problem
• 1:09:30
  things, I. Don't remember it being.
• 1:09:31
  Very. I'm not going right back to it,
• 1:09:33
  but it might later this year, maybe later this year Will.
• 1:09:35
  But yeah, it's not a movie that I'm excited about, but this is
• 1:09:37
  just like a perfect encapsulation of 85 minutes and
• 1:09:40
  yeah, fantastic. And I think it's a nice switch.
• 1:09:42
  We've done some pretty serious films with Cuckoo.
• 1:09:45
  That's true. Shawshank and Silence of the
• 1:09:47
  Lambs. So.
• 1:09:48
  Yeah, it's time for a. Lap that we that we mix it up a
• 1:09:51
  little bit. So I'm glad you enjoyed it,
• 1:09:53
  Phil. Absolutely, folks, and hopefully
• 1:09:55
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